Zain vs Mang0 - Top 8 Losers Semifinal: Melee Singles - Smash Summit 9 | Marth vs Falco

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  • Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
  • GG Zain (Marth) vs C9 Mang0 (Falco) - Melee Singles Bracket: Losers Semi-Final - Smash Summit 9
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Комментарии • 112

  • @BTSsmash
    @BTSsmash  4 года назад +60

    Game Start: 2:15

  • @spencer7439
    @spencer7439 4 года назад +160

    -8:55
    Scar: "lookin like a minute and thirty second game"
    game ends at exactly 6:30
    nice call

  • @SD_Koy
    @SD_Koy 4 года назад +60

    Leffen: "This will be one of the best years for melee ever."
    :( why dude

    • @gabrielcastejon7914
      @gabrielcastejon7914 3 года назад +14

      Still, pandemic helped rollback Melee. Since people that like fighting games can't play on their games crappy connection, they can get their fix from Melee

    • @TheIronyoshi
      @TheIronyoshi 3 года назад +4

      Technically it was. We have made new moves for online and improvement from players is better than ever.

  • @BHox01
    @BHox01 4 года назад +83

    12:27 was so clutch, what a combo

  • @Dizums
    @Dizums 2 года назад +6

    8:08 "If your not willing to suck at something, you'll never get good at it" Scar hit me with that life wisdom :')

  • @cz19856
    @cz19856 4 года назад +119

    foxes cry about the match-up but Mango delivers

    • @MrcaliciousHyphy
      @MrcaliciousHyphy 4 года назад +23

      @K D
      Yeah, but it’s debatably harder than Fox vs. Marth. Both Zain and Mang0 think Fox does better against Marth than Falco does.

    • @jacquesl9972
      @jacquesl9972 4 года назад +1

      @@MrcaliciousHyphy Fox always does better theoretically, but Falco's laser pressure in neutral is way better than having to constantly undershoot/overshoot as Fox is better in practice.

    • @midocrimsonfate1948
      @midocrimsonfate1948 4 года назад

      K D
      One has lasers and the other just has to overshoot or fade back ariels. Ultimately getting grabbed lol

    • @glowyandshadowy2825
      @glowyandshadowy2825 4 года назад +3

      To be fair, they only complain about Zain's Marth. That's just a clear testament that Zain is a godlike player.

    • @Yvs8962
      @Yvs8962 3 года назад +1

      Falco does better than Fox at most levels cuz of lasers. No Marths can powershield them as well as Zain does, and the fact that Falco can apply uncommital pressure to find openings with laser makes it much easier for him to get the openings he needs to win, whereas Fox has to put his neck out there and just purely has to use close range tools to outspace and find openings against this character that outranges the shit out of him and can delete his stock off literally the slightest fuck up. In theory Falco might do worse in a world where every Marth is sending like 80% of his lasers back at him the way Zain does, but that just isnt reality. Against literally every Marth, except Zain, having that non-committal tool that can lock down Marth from just constantly swinging at you whenever he wants, and gives you the frame advantage to pressure him into openings is VERY advantageous compared to how Fox has to approach the MU. End of the day Marth still beats both characters tho.

  • @daborshy4089
    @daborshy4089 4 года назад +91

    The set was looking unwinnable for Mango in games 2-3.

    • @jacquesl9972
      @jacquesl9972 4 года назад +4

      @Matias Flores Zain isn't a "new player" lol. No "new players" win majors. Everyone at this level is a top player.

    • @Greatermaxim
      @Greatermaxim 4 года назад +2

      You've never taken a set off Mango? Are you new or something?

    • @kingofpancakes1278
      @kingofpancakes1278 4 года назад

      Jacques L newness doesn’t necessarily have anything to do w the skill of a player. In the grand scheme of things, Zain definitely is a “new” player

    • @glowyandshadowy2825
      @glowyandshadowy2825 4 года назад

      @Matias Flores Zain isn't really a " new" player though. He's been playing melee competitively since 2014.

  • @kinor5335
    @kinor5335 4 года назад +15

    Gotta say this commentary was probably some of the best I have heard in a while, everyone had really good input. Especially Bobby

    • @Pslamist
      @Pslamist 4 года назад

      I LOVE BBB on the mic.

  • @wittyjester
    @wittyjester 4 года назад +20

    11:33 Here begins the $2 billion game.

  • @gonzo_o_o
    @gonzo_o_o 4 года назад +3

    Amazing comeback from Mango. I love that if you go from 12:25 to 13:25, in just a minute's time, Mango goes from nearly getting knocked out at 4th place in Game 4 to gaining a huge 4-to-2 stock lead in Game 5. He is momentum in Melee

  • @ChristianSedaPlays
    @ChristianSedaPlays 4 года назад +18

    The whole time they are complaining about Zain Mango is just getting it done.

    • @jimtroeltsch5998
      @jimtroeltsch5998 4 года назад

      Mango does the impossible with the bird, he is the Falco Master.

    • @brandogtv9650
      @brandogtv9650 3 года назад

      They? I think you just mean leffen complaining

  • @lordmango6060
    @lordmango6060 4 года назад +21

    Lol "what if we didn't?" the way that was said made me crack up

  • @mathwizard296
    @mathwizard296 4 года назад +43

    2:59 my face when I get grabbed by marth

    • @anthrixb
      @anthrixb 4 года назад

      mathwizard296 this comment is so underrated

  • @FooFightingD
    @FooFightingD 4 года назад +9

    Damn this set was such a turnaround.
    Mentality baby.

  • @DjGaiden
    @DjGaiden 4 года назад +32

    Mango played out of his MIND game 5

  • @emmbeesea
    @emmbeesea 4 года назад +18

    This Top 4 is so good.

  • @sersmiles1635
    @sersmiles1635 4 года назад +15

    another close set, well played

  • @ichimatsu8422
    @ichimatsu8422 4 года назад +10

    last stock game 4 was sick

  • @kheadalt9510
    @kheadalt9510 4 года назад +6

    You can tell most of the couch are spacies mains. In the beginning was Zain was flat out playing Mang0 they're all complaining about Marth and his abilities. Last game when Mang0 starts doing spacie shit it's suddenly the most surprising thing ever lol.

  • @williamx77official
    @williamx77official 4 года назад +11

    LETS GOOOOO MANGO

  • @NoBigDealMedia
    @NoBigDealMedia 4 года назад +7

    “We’re all crazy.” 🙃

  • @ismelljello
    @ismelljello 4 года назад +16

    Why was ibdw complaining about marth, when mango can win with the bird.

    • @Dlord1PlayStation
      @Dlord1PlayStation 4 года назад

      I think he said Falco does better than Fox though, at least on FD.

    • @Themonkeymartin
      @Themonkeymartin 4 года назад

      @UltimateShamrock what

  • @DreamManmns
    @DreamManmns 4 года назад +1

    mango and zain have like at least 2 of the top 10 sets of melee I fucking LOVE watching them play in tournament

  • @leonchess8413
    @leonchess8413 4 года назад +6

    Game 4 was such good melee

  • @eddiestilll
    @eddiestilll 4 года назад +3

    such a sexy set from both players. this is why we all luv melee still!!!

  • @benzed37
    @benzed37 4 года назад +2

    6:43 Literally, I think the second episode of MioM from 2012 was scar talking about why there should be bans in best of 5 sets. That's at least 8 years.

  • @weilzudope
    @weilzudope 4 года назад +3

    mango tried to adapt to zains powershield with turnaround powershield at the beginning of game 5

  • @itsbrendannn7175
    @itsbrendannn7175 Год назад

    i swear this tournament was like the best melee has ever looked picture quality wise

  • @rodrigomendez1272
    @rodrigomendez1272 4 года назад +6

    Homeless Emperor vs Aladdin

    • @Mr.Monky420
      @Mr.Monky420 4 года назад

      Lmao

    • @MrSlowpez10
      @MrSlowpez10 4 года назад

      Mango got his powers from the Melee gods

    • @fourule9629
      @fourule9629 4 года назад

      @@MrSlowpez10 but.......he is one

  • @brandogtv9650
    @brandogtv9650 3 года назад +1

    "Mango said zain was gonna be a problem" then leffen is like "ive been saying that before anyone"

  • @AK-fh1qz
    @AK-fh1qz 4 года назад +2

    I feel like these commentators are somewhat biased especially Leffen. Sure marth is lame but how is nobody giving Zain credit for powershielding Mango's lasers? props to both amazing players!

  • @cjchazy2539
    @cjchazy2539 4 года назад +6

    Mogul Moves>Golden Guardians

  • @rakkatytam
    @rakkatytam 4 года назад +4

    Bird Up! Let's go!

  • @nolanchristian9876
    @nolanchristian9876 4 года назад +3

    This is fast as hell.

  • @tristanwood3104
    @tristanwood3104 4 года назад +1

    Idk which was better, the play or the commentary

  • @diegoescamilla6856
    @diegoescamilla6856 4 года назад +1

    I loved this set so much life is going good right now

  • @Imanidiot244
    @Imanidiot244 4 года назад +1

    that was awesome!!! what an insane level of skill. it is so cool to see the old and new players at the (more or less) same level. Ultimate is always being changed which means you can never really master it on the Ninja level like these two have. also every time Ultimate gets tweaked, they remove a potential meta-game. long live Melee!!!

  • @hossdelgato6098
    @hossdelgato6098 4 года назад +7

    Mango Nation

  • @saraskyline8331
    @saraskyline8331 4 года назад +1

    Lets go Mang0

  • @il100374
    @il100374 4 года назад

    This set was fucking insane

  • @zane4535
    @zane4535 4 года назад +3

    Ayo whoever doing these artworks is a god

  • @lgdslayerstorm3502
    @lgdslayerstorm3502 4 года назад +1

    Mang0 Nation! FOX MCLOUD!!!

  • @strabisamuslestrabisamus2396
    @strabisamuslestrabisamus2396 3 года назад +1

    the conversation at the start is so sad to hear at the momment

  • @Gobblesthepatient
    @Gobblesthepatient 4 года назад +1

    these commentators are all space animal shills. Give Zain credit for being a god!!

  • @cameronisenhower7554
    @cameronisenhower7554 4 года назад

    "Zain just grabbed four times in a row..." yeah Bobby has played Zain A LOT lol

  • @Mr.Monky420
    @Mr.Monky420 4 года назад

    14:00 Jesus Christ. Mango is wild.

  • @kurvas12peligrosas
    @kurvas12peligrosas 4 года назад +7

    Mangoat

  • @rodgeers7347
    @rodgeers7347 4 года назад

    What are they talking about at 6:40? I didn't hear what leffen said. I heard "we need to ban bo5" but I'm not sure

  • @GoodieM8
    @GoodieM8 4 года назад

    1:38 ouch

  • @houserspeed
    @houserspeed 4 года назад

    Bobby Big Balls, the Unblinking GOD

  • @aidancannon521
    @aidancannon521 4 года назад

    LETS FUCKING GO MANGO

  • @elispivak6263
    @elispivak6263 4 года назад +1

    MANGOOOO MANGOOOO MANGOOOO

  • @danielkim1349
    @danielkim1349 11 месяцев назад

    17:08

  • @kirjian
    @kirjian 4 года назад +2

    :(
    Good stuff mango, you'll get him next time Zain

  • @BOLDBANGER
    @BOLDBANGER 5 месяцев назад

    just wondering is mango drunk half the time he plays?

  • @WaltenFlores
    @WaltenFlores 4 года назад +1

    Here after watching Ken vs. Bombsoldier

  • @izzyx1260
    @izzyx1260 4 года назад

    Smashers everywhere had to clean up some cream after this set jfc

  • @matiashernandez9635
    @matiashernandez9635 4 года назад

    Leffen at 14:21

  • @FloppyDiisk
    @FloppyDiisk 4 года назад

    Amazing

  • @comettitun8087
    @comettitun8087 4 года назад

    G5 holy shit

  • @dudesayHEY
    @dudesayHEY 4 года назад +4

    The anxiety lol

  • @jacobquackenbush2981
    @jacobquackenbush2981 4 года назад

    What is that camera angle at 1:02

  • @nicholassmith8027
    @nicholassmith8027 4 года назад +1

    The losers bracket run

  • @roxas7418
    @roxas7418 4 года назад

    Let’s go Mangooo

  • @BigHit9922
    @BigHit9922 4 года назад

    God I love melee

  • @jerkstown2231
    @jerkstown2231 4 года назад

    Fucking. L E G E N D

  • @kaindosil8854
    @kaindosil8854 4 года назад +1

    Is leffen high? Haha

  • @Nick_Lima954
    @Nick_Lima954 4 года назад

    Mango Kumbaiyae!

  • @125conman
    @125conman 4 года назад

    As much as i watch Zain, i always skip Zain V spaice on FD

  • @nwz6084
    @nwz6084 4 года назад +8

    Does anyone like Leffen? Half of twitter is blocked by him! the guy has a huge ego

    • @gilgamesh5796
      @gilgamesh5796 4 года назад +8

      @mendaix No I dont think many people actually like him. But atleast he is honest about being a dick and having an ego. People dont like HIM, but they do like the fact that he is there, because its fun to have a blatant "villain". Its much better than other players that pretend to be super humble and nice but in reality have a huge ego and just want people to see them as the victim and be the center of attention. Thats just frustrating and cringey to watch.

    • @mike-gt8yo
      @mike-gt8yo 4 года назад +1

      i like leffen

    • @ammonstyles5224
      @ammonstyles5224 4 года назад +1

      @mendaix tons of people love leffen. hes one of the most inspiring fox players the world has ever seen. he might have a bad attitude, but doesnt change the fact that he has accomplished phenomenal things in his career playing smash.

    • @linebeck1381
      @linebeck1381 4 года назад +1

      I think people overplay it a lot because the things people say about him were true. Keyword WERE true. He is just like everyone else in the scene nowadays. Man but back then, boy did I hate the guy.

    • @cottonmather8146
      @cottonmather8146 4 года назад

      @@gilgamesh5796 That's America's motto. "He's an asshole, but at least he's honest."

  • @HiImRawr
    @HiImRawr 4 года назад

    Mango played so bad this whole tournament