Just for fun I thought I would breakdown my list of worst to best Buffy season Big Bad's. This list is based on entertainment value. Feel free to leave your list's in the comments.
Angels cruelty is what makes him a perfect villain. And I'll never get over the way he stages Jennys body for Giles to find. That was just so cold and brutal.
Glory and The Mayor have always been my faves..... they topped off my two fave seasons but they're just so campy and over the top, it's so entertaining to watch. It terms of malevolence, Angelus definitely gets the award!
With Angelus there’s an obvious emotional component that the others can’t match. And it helped make season 2 possibly the best season, flaws and all. But I do adore Glory and how the mystery of her and Ben and Dawn slowly unfolded.
Glory was the best, she didn't take her self too seriously which is actually scary, also I hated Adam but I loved that Buffy tapped into the essence of all the previous slayers blew me away
I had a hard time with Glory as a villain. I felt like she was too much of a child. But I guess that is the point that she had so much power that she never developed the emotional maturity that humans must do to get along with others in the world.
7. Adam, 6. Master, 5. First Evil, 4. Glory, 3. Mayor, 2. Angel, 1. Willow. The top 3 all have strong relationships with the existing characters, and that really ups the stakes and the emotional investment.
Does it make any sense for Warren to be a criminal? He could have become a multi-billionaire overnight by mass producing robot girlfriends. He could have _bought_ Sunnydale, a hundred times over. And the other thing: why didn't he offer to build Willow a Tara robot? Maybe WIllow would have spared him.
Adam failed partly because it was unclear who the big bad was. Was Adam just another victim for the Initiative and professor Walsh, or was he the monster awakened by their clueless meddling? Was it actually professor Walsh who was the big bad? To a large extent, the central evil in each season had a 1) soft-spoken, decent aspect, 2) a whimsical, unpredictable aspect, 3) a familiar aspect (it comes from among us), and 4) a genuinely evil aspect. In S3, all these were fused in the Mayor; in S6 it was distributed among Tara, Jonathan & Andrew, Willow, and Warren.
Obviously Glory was the most powerful of all Buffy's villains. Maybe Dark Willow at her most powerful could have killed her. The episodes featuring Glory were probably very popular with the guys because Clare Kramer (Glory) was so beautiful and exuded so much sensuality sometimes.
I wish they kept Dark Willow around for an entire season. For example, have her become Dark Willow at the end of season 6. And then to be a 'Glory-like' villain for the duration of season 7 as Dark Willow.
I understand your take, in s04 of Angel it felt a little like we got Angelus light. What made him formidable in Buffy (aside from his awesome dialog) was that he terrorrzed her friends and killed Jenny Calendar proving he was a real threat.
Darla, Drusilla, and the Master were better villians in Angel the Series due to their characters and back stories being fleshed out and being allowed to develop and progress.
He was great until he was let out of his cage. It was pretty clear that the writers weren't gonna have him actually do anything horrifying. Too many convoluted plots were going on that had to keep the season moving, which meant that there wouldn't have been any room to address any consequences to Angelus's actions.
Personally I’d have loved to see an actual season of Xander being the big bad. I mean the potential was there just reactivate the hyena and the soldier (Janus) rituals. Maybe magic items and the lighting gun to further enhance lethality. Cybernetic eye maybe.
Not a bad idea. From what I've seen (hyena, vamp Xander etc), Nicolas Brendon was good at playing evil. But the question is, would Xander be the big bad throughout the entire season, or would he just be the big bad in the final episodes of the season (like Willow)?
@@edwardmartin3549 He would be a good villain for a whole season. But that creates a problem because you're removing him from the scoobies for an entire season. I've heard Xander called the "heart" of the scoobies--- the scoobies might not function as well without his character in terms of dialog and plot. (The same problem would occur if Willow had been removed from the scoobies for an entire season.)
@@edwardmartin3549 Another possiblity: since the actor has a twin brother, has a "good" Xander (who remains part of the scoobies) and an "evil" Xander for the entire season.
I'm assuming you were joking by suggesting that the First, as a shape shifter, would be considered a non-binary character. But Star Trek The Next Generation had an episode where Data created himself a child who was initially non-binary, then chose to be female. So there were trans and non binary character on TV back then. They weren't always referred to by those terms, language has changed a lot over the last 30 years.
Yes it was a poorly tasted joke. I thought as the first as a character was so old and a shape shifter could it be considered so. But yes, just as frivolous thought not an insight :)
You had me till Glory. The reason I don't like her is because she's just not likeable. I hate to disparage the actress but I feel like she doesn't pull of quirky, funny, or intimidating at all. She kinda only is bearable because she is honestly a very attractive person. There are other boring big bads but at least they were monsters or creatures, so it felt more unique. Glory just came off as a whiny valley type girl.
I get what your saying, but for me your complaint is kind of why it works. The idea of a literal god acting like a whiny, superficial bray. I dunno I like it.
Glory. The answer is"Glory". Case closed. 💗 My rank is: 1)Glory(ICONIC QUEEN!😎👑✨💗) 2)Mayor(He was...something...😅) 3)Spike(I hate him as a Good guy...at least when he's a Villain I have a good excuse!) 4)Dark Willow(I love her as a good girl...so I hate her as a Villain.) 5)The Master(Feel like the guy is overrated...but he _did_ kill Buffy twice,so...) 6)Angelus(It's *ANGELUS,NOT ANGEL!!!* 🤬💢 And it's pronounced"Àngelus",NOT"Angèlus"!!And...same I said about Willow.) 7)The First(BOOOOOOOOOOOOORIIIIIIIIIIING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LAME-AND-BORING!!!!!S7 _actual_ Big Bad was Caleb,let's be real.) ... Oh...right...Adam...I was wondering who I was forgetting.🤦♂
@@Twisted-View Well, there was a brief time when Doctor Who was cancelled, so it's technically 2 different shows, but The Doctor first made his appearance in the 1960s.
@Jerome Lancashire sh so you are referring to the show literal airing. In my video I was referring to the character not the when the show Aired. But I get your point
The Master was scarier in “The Wish” than in the entirety of season 1.
it was a vampire
agreed!
So... You're saying that Ben and Glory... were working together?....🤔
I mean it's possible...
yes, that much is clear, but in what capacity? 🤔
And do we suspect that there is in fact some sort of connection between them🤔
I heard he sublets from her or something.
I loved Spike’s reaction to that. 😂
I am convinced The Mayor really loved Faith and not in a disingenuous way. He would not have gotten the soul Stone, like Thanos did.
Angels cruelty is what makes him a perfect villain. And I'll never get over the way he stages Jennys body for Giles to find. That was just so cold and brutal.
*Angelus
Glory and The Mayor have always been my faves..... they topped off my two fave seasons but they're just so campy and over the top, it's so entertaining to watch. It terms of malevolence, Angelus definitely gets the award!
Totally agree!!
Angelus actually gave me nightmare
With Angelus there’s an obvious emotional component that the others can’t match. And it helped make season 2 possibly the best season, flaws and all. But I do adore Glory and how the mystery of her and Ben and Dawn slowly unfolded.
You know I count Willow as a big bad.
Yeah, that is so true. I spent the second half of season 2 so pissed at him. Worked very well.
@@jeromelancashire3278 So do I. She was the real big bad of season 6. The trio were just a distraction until Willow arrived.
If the First had been played by Nathan Fillion the whole season, I think this big bad might have been my favorite. He was so deliciously evil!
Glory was the best, she didn't take her self too seriously which is actually scary, also I hated Adam but I loved that Buffy tapped into the essence of all the previous slayers blew me away
Wait. Do we have a theory that Ben is working for Glory?
Angel and willow are definitely the best villains in the Buffy verse
*Angelus
(I disagree,BTW,I just wanted to correct the name.)
Most other people really hate glory, I’m glad I’m not the only one that loved her.
RE: the first evil. I see your "it" and I raise you "they/them"
The Mayor/Faith will always be my number one, though I can accept Angelus above him. You lost me having them in 4th, though…
Fiar enough, if it helps this was my list at the time I go back and fourth on it
Just imagine if the Mayor meets glory 😮
Harmony is Buffy’s arch-nemesis. Why isn’t she number one on your list?
Because I consider her Xander's nemesis
@@Twisted-View the most epic slap battle in all 7 series.
I had a hard time with Glory as a villain. I felt like she was too much of a child. But I guess that is the point that she had so much power that she never developed the emotional maturity that humans must do to get along with others in the world.
Yeah, she was essentially a spoiled brat who believed the world revolved around her, because I guess it literally did in her hell dimension.
7. Adam, 6. Master, 5. First Evil, 4. Glory, 3. Mayor, 2. Angel, 1. Willow. The top 3 all have strong relationships with the existing characters, and that really ups the stakes and the emotional investment.
Wilkins-hands down.
Warren Mears gets honorable mention for being the most deplorable.
Does it make any sense for Warren to be a criminal? He could have become a multi-billionaire overnight by mass producing robot girlfriends. He could have _bought_ Sunnydale, a hundred times over.
And the other thing: why didn't he offer to build Willow a Tara robot? Maybe WIllow would have spared him.
Adam failed partly because it was unclear who the big bad was. Was Adam just another victim for the Initiative and professor Walsh, or was he the monster awakened by their clueless meddling? Was it actually professor Walsh who was the big bad?
To a large extent, the central evil in each season had a 1) soft-spoken, decent aspect, 2) a whimsical, unpredictable aspect, 3) a familiar aspect (it comes from among us), and 4) a genuinely evil aspect. In S3, all these were fused in the Mayor; in S6 it was distributed among Tara, Jonathan & Andrew, Willow, and Warren.
I have heard that Walsh was intended to be the big bad but wanted out of the contract for some reason. Good insight btw
@@Twisted-View Maybe she was scared off by that big ugly old-world demon who appeared out of nowhere and chased her down the street ;)
Bunnies.
Glory is a gay icon
I personally think Adam was the most dangerous😈 they literally had to do a very dangerous spell on each other just for Buffy to be able to beat him
Adam gets too much hate. The season was messy but Adam actually made a lot of sense
glory is the best for me 😊
I approve of this ranking.
Obviously Glory was the most powerful of all Buffy's villains. Maybe Dark Willow at her most powerful could have killed her.
The episodes featuring Glory were probably very popular with the guys because Clare Kramer (Glory) was so beautiful and exuded so much sensuality sometimes.
😆sweaty, naughty feelings causing one . Her minions also made for great comedy!
I wish they kept Dark Willow around for an entire season.
For example, have her become Dark Willow at the end of season 6. And then to be a 'Glory-like' villain for the duration of season 7 as Dark Willow.
Angelus was great in season 2 and less so in season 4 of angel
I understand your take, in s04 of Angel it felt a little like we got Angelus light. What made him formidable in Buffy (aside from his awesome dialog) was that he terrorrzed her friends and killed Jenny Calendar proving he was a real threat.
Darla, Drusilla, and the Master were better villians in Angel the Series due to their characters and back stories being fleshed out and being allowed to develop and progress.
He was great until he was let out of his cage. It was pretty clear that the writers weren't gonna have him actually do anything horrifying. Too many convoluted plots were going on that had to keep the season moving, which meant that there wouldn't have been any room to address any consequences to Angelus's actions.
8. Adam
7. The Trio
6. Willow
5. The First
4. Mayor Wilkins
3. Glory
2. Angel
1. The Master
I've got a real soft spot for that first season.
I liked Glory at first, but got very tired of her before the end.
Personally I’d have loved to see an actual season of Xander being the big bad. I mean the potential was there just reactivate the hyena and the soldier (Janus) rituals. Maybe magic items and the lighting gun to further enhance lethality. Cybernetic eye maybe.
Not a bad idea. From what I've seen (hyena, vamp Xander etc), Nicolas Brendon was good at playing evil. But the question is, would Xander be the big bad throughout the entire season, or would he just be the big bad in the final episodes of the season (like Willow)?
@@MrDaydreamer1584 a whole season
@@edwardmartin3549 He would be a good villain for a whole season. But that creates a problem because you're removing him from the scoobies for an entire season. I've heard Xander called the "heart" of the scoobies--- the scoobies might not function as well without his character in terms of dialog and plot. (The same problem would occur if Willow had been removed from the scoobies for an entire season.)
@@edwardmartin3549 Another possiblity: since the actor has a twin brother, has a "good" Xander (who remains part of the scoobies) and an "evil" Xander for the entire season.
@@MrDaydreamer1584 series finale final boss.
seth green was also missed at the end. the fifth season was disappointing. ben is glory is such a beaten dead horse, it's bones.
Seth green was not there because Oz was not dead. The first could only take the shape of dead people.
I'll go with Dark Willow
I'm assuming you were joking by suggesting that the First, as a shape shifter, would be considered a non-binary character. But Star Trek The Next Generation had an episode where Data created himself a child who was initially non-binary, then chose to be female. So there were trans and non binary character on TV back then. They weren't always referred to by those terms, language has changed a lot over the last 30 years.
Yes it was a poorly tasted joke. I thought as the first as a character was so old and a shape shifter could it be considered so. But yes, just as frivolous thought not an insight :)
Angel. Willow. Glory. The holy trinity of good villains.
All three steeped in emotion
*Angelus
(I only agree on Glory,BTW,I just wanted to correct the name.)
7- Adam
6- The First
5- Glory
4- The Master
3- The Mayor
2- Dark Willow
1- Angelus
The Mayor.
You had me till Glory. The reason I don't like her is because she's just not likeable. I hate to disparage the actress but I feel like she doesn't pull of quirky, funny, or intimidating at all. She kinda only is bearable because she is honestly a very attractive person. There are other boring big bads but at least they were monsters or creatures, so it felt more unique. Glory just came off as a whiny valley type girl.
I get what your saying, but for me your complaint is kind of why it works. The idea of a literal god acting like a whiny, superficial bray. I dunno I like it.
Glory. The answer is"Glory". Case closed. 💗
My rank is:
1)Glory(ICONIC QUEEN!😎👑✨💗)
2)Mayor(He was...something...😅)
3)Spike(I hate him as a Good guy...at least when he's a Villain I have a good excuse!)
4)Dark Willow(I love her as a good girl...so I hate her as a Villain.)
5)The Master(Feel like the guy is overrated...but he _did_ kill Buffy twice,so...)
6)Angelus(It's *ANGELUS,NOT ANGEL!!!* 🤬💢 And it's pronounced"Àngelus",NOT"Angèlus"!!And...same I said about Willow.)
7)The First(BOOOOOOOOOOOOORIIIIIIIIIIING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LAME-AND-BORING!!!!!S7 _actual_ Big Bad was Caleb,let's be real.)
...
Oh...right...Adam...I was wondering who I was forgetting.🤦♂
Dis the f**k agree.
Not a f**king problem! Although would be interested in your own personal ranking? :)
3:00 The Doctor from Doctor Who has never defining gender, and they definitely predate The First.
The doctor pre dates? The 1st ever evil? Or Dr who The show pre dates. Genuine question as I am not a who fan.
@@Twisted-View Well, there was a brief time when Doctor Who was cancelled, so it's technically 2 different shows, but The Doctor first made his appearance in the 1960s.
@Jerome Lancashire sh so you are referring to the show literal airing. In my video I was referring to the character not the when the show Aired. But I get your point
@@Twisted-View Well, the character debuted in the 60s.
richard wilkins is the best.
adam was really boring..but he could have been something special.
Angelus the best
all angelus does is play games. its overrated.
7 - Adam
6 - The Master
5 - The First
4 - Angel
3 - Mayor Wilkins
2 - Dark Willow
1 - Glory