CORRECTION: It's $399 with a GoPro Subscription and $499 without👍 What do you guys think of the Hero 10? And what more do you want to know about it? And which cameras do you want to see me compare it against?
I wanna know if the whole cloud thing works well with gopro. And if it's possible to edit content from gopro10 directly on iPhone 12 pro or the new iPad mini 6 without first transferring the content. 😅. I wish with the go2 I could just plug cable to case from phone and edit quickly
I really enjoyed your video! So I've been looking for an action cam for IRL live streaming (Twitch) and waited for the hero 10 to compare. I've seen a lot of complaints with the Hero 9 such as not being able to go live with an android, can't use it interchangeably as a webcam, and short battery life. Are these all still issues? Will the battery life now be worse because it's using the same battery as 9 to support all of the newest features of 10? Also, it appears there's still no upgrade for only getting 1080 for live.
Thanks for the run through David! I can't, however, recommend Epidemic Sound...I signed up for a trial, used a couple songs in my videos and immediately got a copyright strike despite them saying that would never happen.
The natural color profile will be great for underwater filming when using a red/magenta filter! Ah this will really help in post so much ! Sometimes using flat will take way too much work getting the colors back so this would speed up the workflow hopefully
what less could they update? there's only a new processor. No new sensor or 10 bit colour :( Ill probably be getting it anyway, I fly fpv drones and i want maximum image quality possible in something that i can carry on my drone
@@cinialvespow1054 I didn't expect 4k 120 or 5k 60. Expectations were low unfortunately - ui improvements, performance improvements. My hero 9 for example can't do 5 sec interval timelapse in raw, freezes after 5 frames.
I take it GoPro advised creators on the press list not to mention that the max lens mod does not currently work on the 10 black. Update required, either this means they’re currently working to improve on 2.7k or …….well I don’t want to think about that option!
Aside from my last negative comment about GoPro as a company, dude, you are flat-out the best reviewer of technology like this. You don't miss a beat, you don't over-fluff the perks, you tell us just EXACTLY HOW IT IS and MAN- people need to realize how valuable the truth is.
Ok so I've seen plenty of youtube channels that cover these things as I'm in the market, but your work by far is the best explanation from a non video oriented person looking into this. You cover the technical details with easy to understand visuals and simplified explanations. Thank you for an honest review instead of the clickbait talking points that most other channels focus on.
Didnt think there was anything they could do that’d get me to update from the 9, but those specs are powerful. Stoked to keep that Max lens mod and those powerhouse batteries.
I still have the Hero8 and it works fine. I'm a novice - so these changes are like a restaurant announcing the release of a new salad: "Croutons are now 5% larger". Outstanding review as always. Thanks.
Seeing a black screen on the app during record is a deal breaker. Won't get the 10 unless they fix this. Kinda hard to record soccer on an elevated pole if you can't see what you are looking at. That's the only reason I watched this video, thanks for answering that question for me!
I'm looking to jump into the action camera game and after research thought the Osmo Action is probably the best fit for me. The GoPro looks good but my main put-off is the constant reports of freezing and also it being less user-friendly with screen navigation. Those are things we just won't be able to really know until more real-world testing and reviews. With the GP drop, this probably signals an Osmo Action 2 is close at hand so am holding off to see how it compares.
I bought an Osmo Action last month. It's a good camera. I also bought it because it's reliable. No corrupted files unlike GoPro. The only thing that I wished it had was leveling. But, overall it's a good camera for only $200 bucks.
@@DavidManningvlog haha, I was sitting there, 27 seconds on the clock, waiting, waiting, and boom, David drops his video, David x GoPro 1:0 😂 Hey, it was fair, it was after 2pm GMT. You snooze you loose.
The lens coating, the processor and the natural colour are great features that will be a massive improvement from our current Hero 6. So excited to get our hands on one!
@@DavidManningvlog YES!!! that's amazing news. Thanks the info/reply. Freakin great review as always. ALSO - I wanted to let you know that I recently purchased the Anker Powerhouse II 400 - plus the cheaper version of the Rinsekit - based off of hearing about them from your videos! So if your sponsors are asking - your reviews are working man.
how's the other problems that plagued the 9?? thermal shutdown from overheating, popping, crazy chaptering, lost recordings, crashing, constant battery pulls and also hear battery life isn't as good by a good 20-30%
After two weeks of testing, I've seen none of that, which is why I'm actually stoked on this camera so far! I'll keep you updated as I continue to test it, but for me that was my major problem with the Hero 9. The GP2 seems to have fixed those issues. As for battery life, I only saw a loss when comparing it against the Hero 9 at a lower frame rate or resolution. So if I was filming at 5.3K 60 on the Hero 10 and 4K 60 on the Hero 9, I would see about a 5-10% reduction in battery life on the 10. But when they were at the same resolution and frame rate, then the batter life was the exact same. Again, just sort of the nature of cameras, the higher resolution or frame rate that you're shooting at, the lower battery life you'll have 👍
@@livingonthetyne Yep, thats true, but everybody got different "point of view for gopro review". Thats how tech companies manipulate the media, you want honest review? wait 6 months when normal ppl will buy it and face the doom. My cash wait in my bankaccount, i wanted GoPro10 but i think ill go with insta360..
@@livingonthetyne That's the point. Couple of guys out there, talking about the overheating issue at 4k 60fps and higher and a shutdown around after 20 mins. Very very bad and disappointing.
There are a few questions about overheating and I have the same concern. With the GoPro Hero 9, I would be able to record MAYBE 15-20 mins in 4k 30fps. David - could you let the camera record at 4k either 30 or 24 FPS and let it run till it over heats and let us know how long the video was? Indoors on your kitchen counter or wherever would be fine to eliminate outdoor temperature and air flow variables. Thanks!
I never had one but I was thinking of the 10 ? Is it easy to use and post the video on Facebook? Also to take still photos. Thanks for your help. Charles
Too funny…. Didn’t realize you live in/near my neighborhood. I am fishing on those jetties and play golf at Ranch regularly and my State Farm Agency is in C-bad. 🤙🏼. I’ll be picking up a Hero 10… you answered my questions. Thanks!
I'm with you dude. It looks great but my 9 is more than enough for what I do. Getting a 10 would be more of the same just slightly better, where as a 360 will add such a new range of shots!
@@gedreeves9692 @D W there are rumors that Insta is working on a small format 360 camera. I guess some sort of version of a Go2 360. That'll be very nice. What I want is a small format 360, like a 360 Gopro session or that Go2 360. I don't think a 360 needs a screen to see what's recording, because it's recording everything.
@@rubenvor yeah that would be awesome. I was close to pulling the trigger on the 360 x2 after David's video on his electric skateboard, but had just dropped a lot of money on other camera gear 😂 if something can upstage that camera, I'm in!
I hate to disillusion you but big leaps don't come every year. That's just a marketing ploy to keep consumers buying. Cell phones are the biggest example of that, although the car is probably the oldest. Most chassis are unchanged for at least a decade.
but there is another side of that Rex... many of us have NOT bought the 9 BECAUSE of the problems (slow UI, touchscreen etc.) so now our patience might be rewarded... still valuable to help decide when to move to a new model, I agree if I had a 9 this might tell me it isn't the time.
@@FowlersFreeTime woohoo me too I’m also looking to upgrade from the 8! Big difference I’m glad I was put off by people saying the 9 was slow! Now the 10 looks like the GoPro we always wanted. 4k 120 2k.7 at 240 hell yeah 🙌🏼🤟🏽even the hydrophobic lense is a good enough reason to upgrade I think it’ll save us from a lot of ruined shots!🤙🏽I just knew they’d give us a upgraded processor for the 10 after the 9 was launched.
I was kinda hoping for better low light performance BUT I understand that may have to change to physical size (again) from the Hero9 and I definitely don't want to re-buy 6 new batteries!!!
The free replacements was a HUGE factor in me buying this morning, as a skiier/rock climber/scuba diver i have destroyed many gopros, super stoked to see how powder/snow does with the hydrophobic coating
Congrats on being part of GoPro’s press list!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I always love hearing/ watching your unbiased take on action cameras and practical use cases for it! Looking forward to your full review! Keep it up, sir! Take care! Sending love all the way from 🇵🇭
I'd love to see how the hypersmooth holds up in low light. I'm guessing still not too well since you will still need a long exposure time, and will therefore still have the weird problems with motion blur. This is one area where small gimbal cameras like the Osmo pocket are better. I like to record marathons that often start in the predawn hours.
Yeah, the thing is, all action cameras that are doing this type of on-board stabilization are using frame by frame analysis to understand where things are in the frame to then keep them stable. In low light, they can't analyze the frame to understand what's happening and you end up losing that gimbal like stabilization. Like I mentioned in the video, small sensor cameras are not designed for low-light. Not really a GoPro issue as much as all small sensor cameras kind of thing👍
@@DavidManningvlog This is one reason I bought the DJI Pocket 2, not as a GoPro replacement but as a camera to use in low light and get cinematic footage. Amazingly the small sensor in the Pocket 2 holds up really well in low light. I would be interested to see how good or bad the Hero 10 footage is in low light if all stabilisation was turned off and it was on a gimbal instead. My guess is still not great, but more useable than the blotchy mess you get with EIS in low light!
Less glitchy with newer sensor, smoother touch screen, little added things. Hero 9 is probable dead in GP's eyes now. Doubt they'll do any more update either unlike the dji osmo.
I've been looking to upgrade my current action cam for years now. I have a 2016 Sony FDR X1000V. Still shoots well, but Img Stab is way obsolete. Been waiting for Go Pro to put a non glitchy camera out for 3 years now. I hope this is it
is bad as GP9, the cpu is more powerfull but its enter in thermalthrottle and overheating issues that turn off your GP. Now imagine if you keep it in a powerbank while rec, probably will see at news GP10 exploded.
thanks for the vid! couple questions for ya: does it overheat just as quickly? does the improved cpu consume more battery? can you finally live stream without a battery on (with external power?)
Ditto on all three questions, but the big three for me were: 1. Severe overheating, even at 1080/60/Linear, no GPS, no ProTune. 2. Failed looping mode... set at 5 min but only creates 1 minute clips. 3. Terrible battery life... side-by-side test it had HALF of what my Hero 6 had in same modes I had the Hero 9 for just over a week before I was frustrated enough to call GoPro Support. After 45+ minutes on the phone with the GoPro rep, RE-installing latest firmware in an attempt just to fix the looping issue. When it STILL only created 60-second clips I had to call "TIME!" and started the return process. I no longer had any of the boxes but the rep said "no problem" and processed the return. Already shipped it UPS so now just waiting on the refund, including the $49.99 yearly subscription. After being reasonably happy with an original GoPro, followed by a Hero 3, then a Hero 6 before the 9, frankly I'm done with GoPro's.
Yeo David! The inability to see what you’re recording on your phone once you hit record is due to a lawsuit GoPro is currently facing. Perhaps someone patented that technology or something. Hope this helps.
Good video. I don't use my 9 a whole lot so not sure it's worth the money for me to upgrade, but the better front screen framerate and the lag-free menus are great, not to mention better resolution and fps for video recording. I think it's awesome that all the old accessories work. Less money needed to be spent for those who do upgrade every year, or for the 9 owners who want the 10
Great first review. Thanks. Questions/Topics: Overheating, especially in stationary (no wind/water) situations (This and the screen lag were main reasons why I didn't buy H9) Use as a webcam (also involving overheating and simplicity of use)
Great content as per usual. With regard to the video preview being disabled when you start recording, according to other reviewers such as DCRainmaker, reading between the lines, this feature may be currently disabled due to some ongoing litigation in the courts - perhaps some sort of IP/patent issue, so not necessarily a bug or hardware limitation, but a feature which has been deliberately disabled until the court case is resolved - hopefully it returns at some point in the future. That said, responses from GoPro support on their community forums suggest its due to processing limitations - although if that were the case you'd think that would be much less of an issue on the Hero 10 than the Hero 9.
I thought that too because it was the 10, but it's only because GoPro doesn't do S model upgrades. The 10 is essentially a GoPro 9S. It's the 9, but with a new processor and better specs👍
My question is why don't they make a more rubberized accessories/camera holder. The brittle plastics they have now constantly break after a couple of uses, especially if you're not super careful when securing them.
The phone preview thing is a legal patent issue I believe. As far as I know, GoPro are still going through legal proceedings to resolve this. There’s no way they would evolve a product to have less features than an old old model.
Thanks, David Beautiful Family!! looks like my son will get my 9 just got it 5 months ago not that I didn't like it I loved it. I'm sure there are those that would think fly fishing is not an action sport but it is. As a side note, I'm sadly a retired skydiver. The GoPro has done a huge favor for the sport. I can wingsuit jump with my band of brothers and sisters from the chair and feel it. And yes the quicker startup, low light capability, and lens upgrade make a differense. Thank you.
So far Ithese issues with GoPro Hero 10 Black: 1. Power Off while charging and I can't turn it on. Only taking the battery out helps. 2. It can turn on by itself while charging or without it 3. Overheats after 34 minutes and turns off by itself and the battery is still 30%. The video is 4K 60. 4. Overheats after 1 hour 6 mins and turns off by itself and the battery is still 15%. The video is 1080p 60. 5. When I charge it and click the power button it says Power off and does not turn off. If I click on it to turn it off again, then the display is black & nothing happens. Only taking the battery out helps. 6. When I charge the GoPro and turn it on, the battery percentage is not updated. For example it shows 36%, when I switch to photo & back it shows 94%. 7. It I record without the battery I can't see what I record and how long. The display is black. When I stop recording, it says "COLD BATTERY ALERT, the battery is below of 0º C". But I don't use don’t battery, I use the cable only. If someone wishes to buy it, I don't recommend to. But it's up to you.
From what I hear for continuous recording to make for example Driving videos as I do on my channel it overheats way too fast on anything higher than 4k60 it won't run for longer than 20min~ it's a "bad" I wish more people pointed out, still waiting for more people to run tests regarding this before i would consider buying a GoPro hero 10
While I have never been a fan of the "GoPro" colors I have to say the natural colors seem like the exposure is cranked up a bit while the saturation seems less, the latter I am fine with as the colors always seemed way to bold. The exposure change (if that is what it is) seems to make it look like there is too much in the highlights and almost making it looked slightly washed out, I noticed it more in the sky than anything. It could have been what the sky looked like that day but it looked off to me.
I was excited when you said it was the same price in the $449.00, I thought great as! that disproved the JB Hi Fi talks of it being in the $800 buck ball park in Australia, but damn I was wrong! $749.00 is the current retail for in Australia I am so glad I brought the Insta360 GO 2... based on that price $749.00 for a action camera, heck that's half a macbook air... that's a iPad Mini.
Definitely want a much larger sensor. I look at the quality from my iPhone Xs and it's significantly better indoors. GoPro is a pure outdoor action camera, but they could be so much more. I'll keep my Hero 7 and 9 for anything in the water, but for almost everything else I'll use my phone. I think 10 is worth the upgrade from 7 or 8 (because the fixed lens was stupid), but not the 9.
Couple years ago I’d say that’s true. Bigger sensor might not matter because it’s meant to be a outdoor sunny day action camera. But now I agree since I’m starting to use the GoPro as a main, every day camera.
@@DaxtonOliverAshlocke Yeah I think these "action" camera companies can offer a lot more. Doesn't have to be same price or size. They could offer a 1" sensor in a bigger body. I think a lot of people would get that who aren't necessarily into action sports.
My biggest surprise is that they haven't been able to integrate the Max Lens feature (even with reduced resolution) into the base model. Insta360 have this in something a quarter of the size.
Same, I was really hoping that max lens mod would be integrated, but I guess the tradeoff is the 10 will fit in all cases/cages as the 9, which is better for the manufacturer and consumer. So, a compromise.
I got the hero 9 for about £200 so I’ve grabbed a load of accessories and realised it’s not a point and shoot camera and if you want the shots you have to work a bit harder to get them…. So I’ll take my cheaper one and hope GoPro let us use the same accessories in the hero 11+ so I can practise for a few years first!
I have ALWAYS been a GoPro guy, but I have had SO many issues with my GoPro freezing the video in random conditions! I just bought an OSMO Action yesterday to see how well it works compared to my current GoPro! I hope GoPro has fixed all the issues with the 10, but I'm feeling sketchy and a little afraid to invest in a new one at this point! May stick with it, may not, but HAVE to have something reliable. Thanks for the great video David, well done and beautiful family brother. God bless.
Good review. Even though I have the H9B, I think I'm grabbing a Hero10. Another reviewer mentioned that the preview turning off while recording has something to do with a patent/legal situation. I haven't looked into it much though, since I don't use the preview much aside from lining up shots.
It’s pretty good tbh I literally got the 9 like a month ago but I like the small tweaks. As a new videographer can take some of the extra work ok my hands I guess 💯🔥
Just ordered one. I’m hooked to your Chanel. As soon as something like this comes out (or Insta360) I’m tuning in to you first then make my call :)) thank you!!
Awesome video. I recently ordered the 9 and immediately saw the lagging and bugs. What scared me most is some reporting lost video after recording. It's being sent back tomorrow and I ordered the 10 refurbished off of EBay on the GoPro page. It came with everything, not a scratch and a 2 year warranty for $299. I'll get an extended warranty also. Thanks for the tips!!
looks pretty decent, I have the 7 so it may be time to upgrade (will keep the 7 as second camera or back up) that is odd on the app, My 7 works fine with the app and seeing what it being recorded. I don't use that often but a few times I have. But I am still looking at getting a 360 camera too.
@@mattstegall I'm OK with that but I'm not ok with them selling me on someing they didn't test out and doesn't work properly. I grab my 2 year old osmo action because of the reliability while my 9 sits on a shelf.
I wonder how the polar pro ND filters will behave with hypersmooth and the GP2 chip. It is a good upgrade but not good enough for an upgrade from a Hero 9
I just bought a hero 10. Now I’m playing catch up to learn to use it. Finally, this is an excellent camera and the stabilization is going to be awesome. I have a GoPro 5 which is pretty useless without a stabilizing handle. I have NO experience with the 9 so it’s a little frustrating when you and other you tubers keep comparing them. Your video is helpful and I subscribed. Thanks.
CORRECTION: It's $399 with a GoPro Subscription and $499 without👍 What do you guys think of the Hero 10? And what more do you want to know about it? And which cameras do you want to see me compare it against?
Compare it to the Insta360 1-inch please
already put my order in and will be using it at the grand canyon next week. Can't wait to see how it does.
I wanna know if the whole cloud thing works well with gopro. And if it's possible to edit content from gopro10 directly on iPhone 12 pro or the new iPad mini 6 without first transferring the content. 😅. I wish with the go2 I could just plug cable to case from phone and edit quickly
cant get on the link on buy gopro
I really enjoyed your video! So I've been looking for an action cam for IRL live streaming (Twitch) and waited for the hero 10 to compare. I've seen a lot of complaints with the Hero 9 such as not being able to go live with an android, can't use it interchangeably as a webcam, and short battery life. Are these all still issues? Will the battery life now be worse because it's using the same battery as 9 to support all of the newest features of 10? Also, it appears there's still no upgrade for only getting 1080 for live.
Thanks for the run through David! I can't, however, recommend Epidemic Sound...I signed up for a trial, used a couple songs in my videos and immediately got a copyright strike despite them saying that would never happen.
The natural color profile will be great for underwater filming when using a red/magenta filter! Ah this will really help in post so much ! Sometimes using flat will take way too much work getting the colors back so this would speed up the workflow hopefully
For sure, the nines colours were nasty.
Honestly I was expecting less of an update. Stoked for this one.
what less could they update? there's only a new processor. No new sensor or 10 bit colour :(
Ill probably be getting it anyway,
I fly fpv drones and i want maximum image quality possible in something that i can carry on my drone
@@cinialvespow1054 I didn't expect 4k 120 or 5k 60. Expectations were low unfortunately - ui improvements, performance improvements. My hero 9 for example can't do 5 sec interval timelapse in raw, freezes after 5 frames.
Getting rid of those oversaturated colors is worth gold. Plus lack of lagginess. Gold. I avoided the 9, but the 10 is on my shopping list.
Vibrant = GoPro Color . I liked the natural
I'm with you👍
I take it GoPro advised creators on the press list not to mention that the max lens mod does not currently work on the 10 black. Update required, either this means they’re currently working to improve on 2.7k or …….well I don’t want to think about that option!
Aside from my last negative comment about GoPro as a company, dude, you are flat-out the best reviewer of technology like this. You don't miss a beat, you don't over-fluff the perks, you tell us just EXACTLY HOW IT IS and MAN- people need to realize how valuable the truth is.
Ok so I've seen plenty of youtube channels that cover these things as I'm in the market, but your work by far is the best explanation from a non video oriented person looking into this. You cover the technical details with easy to understand visuals and simplified explanations. Thank you for an honest review instead of the clickbait talking points that most other channels focus on.
Didnt think there was anything they could do that’d get me to update from the 9, but those specs are powerful. Stoked to keep that Max lens mod and those powerhouse batteries.
I still have the Hero8 and it works fine. I'm a novice - so these changes are like a restaurant announcing the release of a new salad: "Croutons are now 5% larger".
Outstanding review as always. Thanks.
That's exactly true. Always keep that in my when making a new purchase. Although in the 10 the chip is faster, if time is money.
Seeing a black screen on the app during record is a deal breaker. Won't get the 10 unless they fix this. Kinda hard to record soccer on an elevated pole if you can't see what you are looking at. That's the only reason I watched this video, thanks for answering that question for me!
It has probably to do with the contour gopro lawsuit, I think its about 2 or 3 patents regarding control the camera from the phone
I'm looking to jump into the action camera game and after research thought the Osmo Action is probably the best fit for me. The GoPro looks good but my main put-off is the constant reports of freezing and also it being less user-friendly with screen navigation. Those are things we just won't be able to really know until more real-world testing and reviews. With the GP drop, this probably signals an Osmo Action 2 is close at hand so am holding off to see how it compares.
I wouldn’t count on action 2. There’s been 3 GoPro releases since the original Osmo action.
I bought an Osmo Action last month. It's a good camera. I also bought it because it's reliable. No corrupted files unlike GoPro. The only thing that I wished it had was leveling. But, overall it's a good camera for only $200 bucks.
Another vote for the Osmo Action. I have been using it for a few weeks now and it is great.
I think Osmo wouldnt be as good as Hero10
Wish i'd got the Osmo, the Hero 9 is TERRIBLE
Just went and got one this morning and coming from the 7 I LOVE IT! So Good!
I love how you explain things so that anyone can understand!
Bellissima recenzione, grazie! (Greetings from Italy)
Sounds awesome. I just recently bought a hero 9 before I knew about the 10. Should I sell my 9 and get the 10. I have no idea what to do.
Me too :/
haha, no way, before the actual official video, love it!
Whoa whoa whoa Phillip! For the record, I posted one minute AFTER the official video! Geez Phillip, trying to get me in trouble, huh?🤣
@@DavidManningvlog haha, I was sitting there, 27 seconds on the clock, waiting, waiting, and boom, David drops his video, David x GoPro 1:0 😂 Hey, it was fair, it was after 2pm GMT. You snooze you loose.
@@DavidManningvlog Oh yeah, off to pick this up, didn't get an email or a boat. GoPro, call me.
The lens coating, the processor and the natural colour are great features that will be a massive improvement from our current Hero 6. So excited to get our hands on one!
There's more than enough new tech to make a big difference over the H6.
@@krane15 I'm sure it's going to be like night and day. Now all we have to do is find a place that sells them where we are in Costa Rica :D
Main question: Does it black out - and freeze while still ‘recording’ and you have to pull the battery? If it doesn’t do that - I’m buying it. Thanks.
Dude, that was the main thing I was testing for! The Hero 9 was terrible on that for me. The 10 hasn't done that once in the two weeks I've had it🙌
@@DavidManningvlog YES!!! that's amazing news. Thanks the info/reply. Freakin great review as always.
ALSO - I wanted to let you know that I recently purchased the Anker Powerhouse II 400 - plus the cheaper version of the Rinsekit - based off of hearing about them from your videos! So if your sponsors are asking - your reviews are working man.
That 4K 120 looks surprisingly good. Not A7siii good, but better than I expected.
Biggest let down for me has always been the usability of the app. Insta360 app is so much more user friendly.
how's the other problems that plagued the 9?? thermal shutdown from overheating, popping, crazy chaptering, lost recordings, crashing, constant battery pulls and also hear battery life isn't as good by a good 20-30%
yeah, that's actually the most important stuff
After two weeks of testing, I've seen none of that, which is why I'm actually stoked on this camera so far! I'll keep you updated as I continue to test it, but for me that was my major problem with the Hero 9. The GP2 seems to have fixed those issues. As for battery life, I only saw a loss when comparing it against the Hero 9 at a lower frame rate or resolution. So if I was filming at 5.3K 60 on the Hero 10 and 4K 60 on the Hero 9, I would see about a 5-10% reduction in battery life on the 10. But when they were at the same resolution and frame rate, then the batter life was the exact same. Again, just sort of the nature of cameras, the higher resolution or frame rate that you're shooting at, the lower battery life you'll have 👍
A couple other reviews that just came out have spoken about overheating issues worse than the 9
@@livingonthetyne Yep, thats true, but everybody got different "point of view for gopro review". Thats how tech companies manipulate the media, you want honest review? wait 6 months when normal ppl will buy it and face the doom. My cash wait in my bankaccount, i wanted GoPro10 but i think ill go with insta360..
@@livingonthetyne
That's the point. Couple of guys out there, talking about the overheating issue at 4k 60fps and higher and a shutdown around after 20 mins. Very very bad and disappointing.
There are a few questions about overheating and I have the same concern. With the GoPro Hero 9, I would be able to record MAYBE 15-20 mins in 4k 30fps. David - could you let the camera record at 4k either 30 or 24 FPS and let it run till it over heats and let us know how long the video was? Indoors on your kitchen counter or wherever would be fine to eliminate outdoor temperature and air flow variables. Thanks!
I never had one but I was thinking of the 10 ? Is it easy to use and post the video on Facebook? Also to take still photos. Thanks for your help.
Charles
Lets gooooo🔥🔥🔥
I have the 6 and was considering to upgrade but haven’t found the one yet. Looks like it may be the time!!
To be honest get a hero 9 it is cheeper i love mine
@@user-ft2qz4fu5e but is the $50 savings worth it?
I thought it was more
@@Ryansacrobat no its not. get the 10
I have the 6 also; its time.
Too funny…. Didn’t realize you live in/near my neighborhood. I am fishing on those jetties and play golf at Ranch regularly and my State Farm Agency is in C-bad. 🤙🏼. I’ll be picking up a Hero 10… you answered my questions. Thanks!
As soon as they fix the recording issue when linked to iphone I will buy one it's the most important feature I need for my work !
Sounds like not a big leap. Sticking to my hero 9 and wait for what's new from Insta 360.
I been thinking of buying the 360 Next I have the Hero 9
I'm with you dude. It looks great but my 9 is more than enough for what I do. Getting a 10 would be more of the same just slightly better, where as a 360 will add such a new range of shots!
@@gedreeves9692 @D W there are rumors that Insta is working on a small format 360 camera. I guess some sort of version of a Go2 360.
That'll be very nice.
What I want is a small format 360, like a 360 Gopro session or that Go2 360. I don't think a 360 needs a screen to see what's recording, because it's recording everything.
@@rubenvor yeah that would be awesome. I was close to pulling the trigger on the 360 x2 after David's video on his electric skateboard, but had just dropped a lot of money on other camera gear 😂 if something can upstage that camera, I'm in!
I hate to disillusion you but big leaps don't come every year. That's just a marketing ploy to keep consumers buying. Cell phones are the biggest example of that, although the car is probably the oldest. Most chassis are unchanged for at least a decade.
surely bring back the session
Bagged mine at 14:35 in the uk. £379 for just the camera or £379 for bundle. Im still a subscriber from last year
Minimal upgrade from last year. GoPro’s marketing is “we’ve fixed the problems from last year’s model!” 😂
but there is another side of that Rex... many of us have NOT bought the 9 BECAUSE of the problems (slow UI, touchscreen etc.) so now our patience might be rewarded... still valuable to help decide when to move to a new model, I agree if I had a 9 this might tell me it isn't the time.
@@canyonblue737-8 exactly. Now I'll upgrade from the 8 to the 10 with confidence.
@@FowlersFreeTime woohoo me too I’m also looking to upgrade from the 8! Big difference I’m glad I was put off by people saying the 9 was slow! Now the 10 looks like the GoPro we always wanted. 4k 120 2k.7 at 240 hell yeah 🙌🏼🤟🏽even the hydrophobic lense is a good enough reason to upgrade I think it’ll save us from a lot of ruined shots!🤙🏽I just knew they’d give us a upgraded processor for the 10 after the 9 was launched.
Haha with extra cost !
Double the frame rate seems pretty significant to me.
So you never got around to answering is it time for me to upgrade from my trusty hero 8 to hero 10?
My man with the first Hero10 video I can find!!!
Heck yeah Joel!🎉
I was kinda hoping for better low light performance BUT I understand that may have to change to physical size (again) from the Hero9 and I definitely don't want to re-buy 6 new batteries!!!
The free replacements was a HUGE factor in me buying this morning, as a skiier/rock climber/scuba diver i have destroyed many gopros, super stoked to see how powder/snow does with the hydrophobic coating
I'll buy this
ok
I want to see what insta360 comes out with before pulling the trigger. Hoping we see something this year
I just did
Congrats on being part of GoPro’s press list!!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I always love hearing/ watching your unbiased take on action cameras and practical use cases for it! Looking forward to your full review! Keep it up, sir! Take care! Sending love all the way from 🇵🇭
Glad you got it! 😉🙏🏽
Good review Dave.... you know we need a $499 GP Hero 10 vs $199 DJI Osmo Action video next!
You ask, I'll answer! On it👍
At least get the price right it's $399
Audio is surprisingly extremely good
I'd love to see how the hypersmooth holds up in low light. I'm guessing still not too well since you will still need a long exposure time, and will therefore still have the weird problems with motion blur. This is one area where small gimbal cameras like the Osmo pocket are better. I like to record marathons that often start in the predawn hours.
It doesn't do well, im just about to upload a video with the hero 10 on the bike at night time woth hypersmooth on.
Yeah, the thing is, all action cameras that are doing this type of on-board stabilization are using frame by frame analysis to understand where things are in the frame to then keep them stable. In low light, they can't analyze the frame to understand what's happening and you end up losing that gimbal like stabilization. Like I mentioned in the video, small sensor cameras are not designed for low-light. Not really a GoPro issue as much as all small sensor cameras kind of thing👍
@@DavidManningvlog This is one reason I bought the DJI Pocket 2, not as a GoPro replacement but as a camera to use in low light and get cinematic footage. Amazingly the small sensor in the Pocket 2 holds up really well in low light. I would be interested to see how good or bad the Hero 10 footage is in low light if all stabilisation was turned off and it was on a gimbal instead. My guess is still not great, but more useable than the blotchy mess you get with EIS in low light!
The overheating of the 9 killed it for me. And I've already seen reviews showing the 10 has a similar issue.
Is it more or less glitchy than the 9? That's all I want to know :)
Less glitchy with newer sensor, smoother touch screen, little added things. Hero 9 is probable dead in GP's eyes now. Doubt they'll do any more update either unlike the dji osmo.
From what I’ve been seeing on reviews the New Processor is definitely helping:)
I've been looking to upgrade my current action cam for years now. I have a 2016 Sony FDR X1000V. Still shoots well, but Img Stab is way obsolete. Been waiting for Go Pro to put a non glitchy camera out for 3 years now. I hope this is it
It has a new processor
is bad as GP9, the cpu is more powerfull but its enter in thermalthrottle and overheating issues that turn off your GP. Now imagine if you keep it in a powerbank while rec, probably will see at news GP10 exploded.
Don't know much about the camera, but those are 2 precious and beautiful kids!
thanks for the vid! couple questions for ya: does it overheat just as quickly? does the improved cpu consume more battery? can you finally live stream without a battery on (with external power?)
Ditto on all three questions, but the big three for me were:
1. Severe overheating, even at 1080/60/Linear, no GPS, no ProTune.
2. Failed looping mode... set at 5 min but only creates 1 minute clips.
3. Terrible battery life... side-by-side test it had HALF of what my Hero 6 had in same modes
I had the Hero 9 for just over a week before I was frustrated enough to call GoPro Support. After 45+ minutes on the phone with the GoPro rep, RE-installing latest firmware in an attempt just to fix the looping issue. When it STILL only created 60-second clips I had to call "TIME!" and started the return process.
I no longer had any of the boxes but the rep said "no problem" and processed the return.
Already shipped it UPS so now just waiting on the refund, including the $49.99 yearly subscription.
After being reasonably happy with an original GoPro, followed by a Hero 3, then a Hero 6 before the 9, frankly I'm done with GoPro's.
Yeo David! The inability to see what you’re recording on your phone once you hit record is due to a lawsuit GoPro is currently facing. Perhaps someone patented that technology or something. Hope this helps.
I'm sold! Natural colour seems like in-between GoPro colour and Flat.
Great recap! If the 10 turns on and off when it is supposed to, sold!!!!
Good video. I don't use my 9 a whole lot so not sure it's worth the money for me to upgrade, but the better front screen framerate and the lag-free menus are great, not to mention better resolution and fps for video recording. I think it's awesome that all the old accessories work. Less money needed to be spent for those who do upgrade every year, or for the 9 owners who want the 10
I just bought the Hero 9 and now they come out with the 10🥲🥲
Great first review. Thanks.
Questions/Topics:
Overheating, especially in stationary (no wind/water) situations (This and the screen lag were main reasons why I didn't buy H9)
Use as a webcam (also involving overheating and simplicity of use)
Great content as per usual. With regard to the video preview being disabled when you start recording, according to other reviewers such as DCRainmaker, reading between the lines, this feature may be currently disabled due to some ongoing litigation in the courts - perhaps some sort of IP/patent issue, so not necessarily a bug or hardware limitation, but a feature which has been deliberately disabled until the court case is resolved - hopefully it returns at some point in the future. That said, responses from GoPro support on their community forums suggest its due to processing limitations - although if that were the case you'd think that would be much less of an issue on the Hero 10 than the Hero 9.
They decided to double the frame rate across the board so that new gp2 Processor is getting maxed out just like the gp1 on the 9, maybe more so.
I just received my hero9 black yesterday. Time to send it back and get the new one.
Still loving my 7 ,
I was really hoping the low light would be better, if they would increase the aperture of the lens it would fix the problem once and for all.
That hydrophobic coating sounds nice. Blew countless sequences because I didn't realize there were some droplets on the lense.
I am totally about to order one. I just found this channel I love it! Thx dude!
10 Bit!!! That's all I wanted. Flat profile is great but it falls apart during grading.
Could you also do some battery test on it as well because I would like to see how much the battery life is
WIth the 10 I thought we would see some big changes.
I thought that too because it was the 10, but it's only because GoPro doesn't do S model upgrades. The 10 is essentially a GoPro 9S. It's the 9, but with a new processor and better specs👍
@@DavidManningvlog I just got the 8 before the 9 release so at this point might wait to see what the 11 brings.
My question is why don't they make a more rubberized accessories/camera holder. The brittle plastics they have now constantly break after a couple of uses, especially if you're not super careful when securing them.
Any overheating? Another youtuber said it over heated after about 20 to 30 minutes. He also said battery consumption was worse. Thanks for the review!
Great review. I was hoping for better low light. My GP10 is ordered and excited to try it when it arrives next week. Upgrading from the 7.
thank you david
i was hoping for much better low light!
Even smartphones shoot much better in low light now!
The phone preview thing is a legal patent issue I believe. As far as I know, GoPro are still going through legal proceedings to resolve this.
There’s no way they would evolve a product to have less features than an old old model.
good to know, its a hard world these days with to many rules, i kind of need that option as well
Thanks, David Beautiful Family!! looks like my son will get my 9 just got it 5 months ago not that I didn't like it I loved it. I'm sure there are those that would think fly fishing is not an action sport but it is. As a side note, I'm sadly a retired skydiver. The GoPro has done a huge favor for the sport. I can wingsuit jump with my band of brothers and sisters from the chair and feel it. And yes the quicker startup, low light capability, and lens upgrade make a differense. Thank you.
Great review dude! Just might order one today!
Keep in mind, they didn’t fix the problem with can’t review while recording
So far Ithese issues with GoPro Hero 10 Black:
1. Power Off while charging and I can't turn it on. Only taking the battery out helps.
2. It can turn on by itself while charging or without it
3. Overheats after 34 minutes and turns off by itself and the battery is still 30%. The video is 4K 60.
4. Overheats after 1 hour 6 mins and turns off by itself and the battery is still 15%. The video is 1080p 60.
5. When I charge it and click the power button it says Power off and does not turn off. If I click on it to turn it off again, then the display is black & nothing happens. Only taking the battery out helps.
6. When I charge the GoPro and turn it on, the battery percentage is not updated. For example it shows 36%, when I switch to photo & back it shows 94%.
7. It I record without the battery I can't see what I record and how long. The display is black. When I stop recording, it says "COLD BATTERY ALERT, the battery is below of 0º C". But I don't use don’t battery, I use the cable only.
If someone wishes to buy it, I don't recommend to. But it's up to you.
Bro U Made A Mistake
From what I hear for continuous recording to make for example Driving videos as I do on my channel it overheats way too fast on anything higher than 4k60 it won't run for longer than 20min~ it's a "bad" I wish more people pointed out, still waiting for more people to run tests regarding this before i would consider buying a GoPro hero 10
While I have never been a fan of the "GoPro" colors I have to say the natural colors seem like the exposure is cranked up a bit while the saturation seems less, the latter I am fine with as the colors always seemed way to bold. The exposure change (if that is what it is) seems to make it look like there is too much in the highlights and almost making it looked slightly washed out, I noticed it more in the sky than anything. It could have been what the sky looked like that day but it looked off to me.
I'm really glad that my 9 isn't suddenly completely obsolete.
4K 120!!! 🙌🏻 thank GOD!!! Literally just got done ordering!!
I was excited when you said it was the same price in the $449.00, I thought great as! that disproved the JB Hi Fi talks of it being in the $800 buck ball park in Australia, but damn I was wrong! $749.00 is the current retail for in Australia I am so glad I brought the Insta360 GO 2... based on that price $749.00 for a action camera, heck that's half a macbook air... that's a iPad Mini.
Definitely want a much larger sensor. I look at the quality from my iPhone Xs and it's significantly better indoors. GoPro is a pure outdoor action camera, but they could be so much more. I'll keep my Hero 7 and 9 for anything in the water, but for almost everything else I'll use my phone. I think 10 is worth the upgrade from 7 or 8 (because the fixed lens was stupid), but not the 9.
Couple years ago I’d say that’s true. Bigger sensor might not matter because it’s meant to be a outdoor sunny day action camera. But now I agree since I’m starting to use the GoPro as a main, every day camera.
@@DaxtonOliverAshlocke Yeah I think these "action" camera companies can offer a lot more. Doesn't have to be same price or size. They could offer a 1" sensor in a bigger body. I think a lot of people would get that who aren't necessarily into action sports.
Definitely will be my next camera because I don't like the bugginess of the GoPro 9. Great information thanks.
10!!!❤
My biggest surprise is that they haven't been able to integrate the Max Lens feature (even with reduced resolution) into the base model. Insta360 have this in something a quarter of the size.
Same, I was really hoping that max lens mod would be integrated, but I guess the tradeoff is the 10 will fit in all cases/cages as the 9, which is better for the manufacturer and consumer. So, a compromise.
@@FowlersFreeTime But they could have achieved a lower resolution effect with the same lens I'm sure. And give us the Insta360 Go 2 features
Very realistic comparison much love from Baku
one word for this Vlog. PERFECT!
I got the hero 9 for about £200 so I’ve grabbed a load of accessories and realised it’s not a point and shoot camera and if you want the shots you have to work a bit harder to get them…. So I’ll take my cheaper one and hope GoPro let us use the same accessories in the hero 11+ so I can practise for a few years first!
I have ALWAYS been a GoPro guy, but I have had SO many issues with my GoPro freezing the video in random conditions!
I just bought an OSMO Action yesterday to see how well it works compared to my current GoPro! I hope GoPro has fixed all the issues with the 10, but I'm feeling sketchy and a little afraid to invest in a new one at this point! May stick with it, may not, but HAVE to have something reliable. Thanks for the great video David, well done and beautiful family brother. God bless.
Good review. Even though I have the H9B, I think I'm grabbing a Hero10.
Another reviewer mentioned that the preview turning off while recording has something to do with a patent/legal situation. I haven't looked into it much though, since I don't use the preview much aside from lining up shots.
Just bought it! Been using GoPro for all my videos! Super pumped for this! Haha
Yeah, i am concerned about the overheating issue. What happens when it over heats? 😰
Gotta pop the battery out, kick back and relax until it cools down
It’s pretty good tbh I literally got the 9 like a month ago but I like the small tweaks. As a new videographer can take some of the extra work ok my hands I guess 💯🔥
I only just got my hero 9
Just ordered one. I’m hooked to your Chanel. As soon as something like this comes out (or Insta360) I’m tuning in to you first then make my call :)) thank you!!
Awesome video. I recently ordered the 9 and immediately saw the lagging and bugs. What scared me most is some reporting lost video after recording. It's being sent back tomorrow and I ordered the 10 refurbished off of EBay on the GoPro page. It came with everything, not a scratch and a 2 year warranty for $299. I'll get an extended warranty also. Thanks for the tips!!
looks pretty decent, I have the 7 so it may be time to upgrade (will keep the 7 as second camera or back up) that is odd on the app, My 7 works fine with the app and seeing what it being recorded. I don't use that often but a few times I have. But I am still looking at getting a 360 camera too.
7 is a beast
@@Dauscingcing I still have issues with it though. Freezing up, and a few other issues. But now looking at the dji pocket 2 as an option to
Wow! Thanks!
Everyone who bought a 9 should receive a 1/2 off discount on a 10.
I agree! There should be a trade in program for more than half! GoPro basically saying F you hero 9 users! My money is waiting for DJI Action 2.
@@realMDizzy dji osmo action 2 will crush the gopro 10. it took gopro 2yrs to catch up XD
Would like to trade my 9 for an osmo 2.
GoPro comes out with new camera every single year. Buying tech and watching the next version be better is just part of the deal.
@@mattstegall I'm OK with that but I'm not ok with them selling me on someing they didn't test out and doesn't work properly. I grab my 2 year old osmo action because of the reliability while my 9 sits on a shelf.
I wonder how the polar pro ND filters will behave with hypersmooth and the GP2 chip. It is a good upgrade but not good enough for an upgrade from a Hero 9
I got one recently for about 220 euros and enjoyed it since.
10 generations of gopro and I'm finally gonna purchase one. 😁
Thanks!
Had Osmo for a year now, will keep it for life.
Had the Go pro 9 for a day…. Enough said
I was excited to see this video! Nice work
wow! Natural mode. I love it!
I just bought a hero 10. Now I’m playing catch up to learn to use it. Finally, this is an excellent camera and the stabilization is going to be awesome. I have a GoPro 5 which is pretty useless without a stabilizing handle. I have NO experience with the 9 so it’s a little frustrating when you and other you tubers keep comparing them. Your video is helpful and I subscribed. Thanks.