An interview with Geoffrey Ashworth (the person, his book and other things) with pictures and video fragments from places discussed would be quite interesting ❗
The old tested by time wooden cobbles outlasting the modern, Always amazed me. Local councils love their tarmac, Then residents complain of cars speeding (Never would have that problem with cobbles) I guess the old is win win situation Martin :)
Here in Vancouver there are a number of streets in the older parts of the city that were paved with wooden blocks, and you can still see them through the asphalt when it breaks down. In this case I believe it was done just because there was so much wood available, and stone cobbles were only used on hills that were steep enough that the horses needed the extra traction.
I'm a brit & I visited Vancouver in 2000. I was in Stanley Park I think & it said "This way to the heritage building." How could I resist! So I followed the signs. Past what I thought was the gardener's shed & I carried on. I found another sign pointing backwards. I thought someone must've turned the sign around. Still no old buildings so I carried on. Then I got to another sign pointing back the way I came. So thinking I'd missed something I turned around & started back. Same deal? Aaargh! Past the storage shed for the gardeners (I guessed) tge signs started pointing backwards. I saw two Mounties on mountain bikes. "Ahaa! I'll ask for directions." I explained about the signs & everything and they looked a bit miffed... One of them said "It's not the gardener's tool shed. That's the heritage building! Bugger! I think I upset them. It was made of wooden slats painted green. Over here it would've been a perfect gardener's tool shed & shelter when it rained. I realised I'd have to adjust what I thought of as old while I was in BC. I wish I could apologise to those Mounties! I really didn't mean to upset them! I think it was the old tram shed... If they hadn't painted it in British Racing Green that we now use for park benches & sheds maybe I wouldn't've made such a mistake! My host laughed her socks off when I got back to her house in N.Van. 😳
@@lesbendo6363 generally east of Main and north of Hastings, scattered about here and there, but I know I've seen a bunch along Alexander. Used to wander around there a lot doing photography, haven't in a while though...
For wooden roads, you also have the plank roads which popped up in Canada and the United States in the first half of the 19th century. IIRC, Danforth Avenue in Toronto was one such plank road.
I've been binge watching this great program. Americans don't care to admit it, but the history of the UK is a part of the history of the USA. It's fascinating to see buildings/ infrastructure built a century/centuries before, still in use or preserved versus being dug up or knocked over.
The cadishead viaduct I was on the team about 10-15 years ago repainting the concrete filled containers that are "supposed" to stop people accessing the structure.
Love it. I have a sneaking suspicion that the wooden cobbles may have been installed for the reason 'Artilery Street' has it's name and not because of the hospital (we're talking about a time when small kids where sent up chimnies, so I doubt they'd re-cobble a whole street for skin patients). I think the wooden cobbles may have been to prevent sparks being generated (if there was a gunpowder factory nearby). Just guessing. ... and OOOOOO get her.... nearly at 100K ... Sooner or later someone will have to do something about Cadishead and Latchford viaducts before some poor boat owner finds half a bridge on his deck.
Hi Jenny. There wasn’t a gunpowder factory nearby. The wooden cobbles are there for the reason mention in the video. I see your reasoning though. Artillery street related to Bonnie Prince Charlie using the area as a gun park. The wooden cobbles came way after that.
If you're not getting grant money for the stellar, top-notch quality, educational and entertaining documentary videos you're making from the various departments and governments in the areas you film it's freaking crime against humanity.
Absolutely loved this video, i'm Cadishead born and bread and used to play on that viaduct with me mates as a kid, loved throwing rocks at the Partington lads lol the whole area has some fantastic history, unfortunately not a lot of it remains but theres still a few little gems like this viaduct and the old Steel Works tunnel thats under that old train line on Tramway Road Irlam. A very old industrial town i love it.
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So enjoyed that Martin, always a pleasure too to see your James. Favourite - hump bridge to nowhere in the new build. Beautiful construction. Well done.
Martin, you have so much history and little historical "GEMS" all over the Manchester area, you'll be busy making videos for years. At 17:07 The River Medlock was so wide, amazing how narrow it is now. James is a man of few words...... Thanks to the team for another great watch.
Hi Martin ,Amazing , History under your nose ! fabulous guys thank you for showing us these remarkable treasures which i doubt will be around for much longer , but great to see , my regards love liz xxxx
Seeing that Chimney in the woods reminded me of Cheesden Lumb Mill in Rochdale. There is a bloody massive Chimney further up the valley stood lonely in the woods, well worth a visit Martin.
Hi Martin the Tip is the name we use for Clayton Vale. As at some point it was used as a rubbish tip, not to sure of dates on it I remember my Grandad use to tell me.
You could definitely do a full-length video on the Stockport Branch Canal. You can walk along its length from Clayton to Gorton Cemetery after which it's largely inaccessible. There are a number of old bridges still in place. For example, just to the south of where you were is the aqueduct over Gorton station which is well worth a visit.
I'm sure we used to call that yellow brick road as a kid, where the canal towpath is. Being brought up in Openshaw I find this so fascinating. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻
this is the best time of year to go to old mining towns and railway towns and just film what's left of McKendree hospital deep in the woods fun back story about that one
love you vis martin takes me back when i was young living around the area , we use to call that part of the river medlock the red river because it was next too philips park cemetry
Thanks Martin. That was great. I remember the railway and the Cadishead viaduct from my childhood, travelling to see relatives in Glazebrook. Long ago!!
Great little finds. That bridge in the middle of the modern estate was brilliant. If anything it will secure its future. The chimney is lucky. Fred Dibnah would have taken that down for £100, a pint and some cheese sandwiches. 🙂
Very interesting ! It took a bit but I found the chimney on Google earth. it casts a nice shadow. I honestly believe i could find my way around Manchester now... or at least along the canals and the rivers. Thanks for the trip!
It is tricky finding the location of this "Clayton Dingle" on the old maps. What I do find in the OS 25-inch maps, roughly in the same location, is Sunny Bank Brook. This makes me think that Clayton Dingle is actually the wooded area through which the brook flows. Another very interesting video Martin.
Hi Martin you have got to get a camera along the piped Clayton Dingle, maybe mounted on a radio controlled car or use drain rods attached to a 2 wheel truck. I would love to see if it connects to the mine. Love the video. God bless
Another excellent video bud I'm a Stockport lad living in Wales it's great to see the old sites More remains of the Stockport branch can be seen in reddish and at nelstrop mill Stockport
I noticed the A57 on there have you ever thought of following the run of trunk roads, the A57 went fom liverpool to lincoln going thru my home town of hyde? It has changed so much especially since the M67 was built!👍👍
Future generations will have so much to thank you for in years to come Martin, for filming and documenting Manchester and surrounding areas, Industrial history and past, and who knows if enough people find out what is left, it may help it being preserved and not pulled down or built over. Thanks .
My favorite type of zero vid, Hidden treasure. Second fav would be the beautiful overgrown valleys hiding delapedated mills, and rerouted waterways. Thankyou.
Enjoy your videos. I live in the American desert and have limited temporary mobility so your vids mean a lot to me. Thanks for you efforts. The chimney in the woods was intriguing.
Hi Martin, I regularly walk along Byrom Street and didn't know that! I was amazed when I investigated the pot holes ans seen the wooden cobbles! Keep up the great videos.
Great vlog these little gems you keep finding are really interesting when you show the place on a map along side an old map it just tells a real story of how these places have changed I like that. Autumn is a great time to explore like James said it's just a different world with all the bracken and weeds dying back you can see a lot more.
So enjoy watching your videos! As a ( long) exiled Manc it is great to be reminded and often re- educated (!!) about some of the fascinating history of the city and its environs! You really should have your own TV show!!
Love the music & every thing about your videos! My forebears came from there (Macclesfield) to Paterson, NJ to the Mills so found you that way! Many thanks!
Love that trip on the viaduct... my legs would have had a right wobble on!!
Oh yeah, good to finally get on to it after our trip a few years ago. But definitely concerning to walk over with all those rusty bits
The “Five Things” videos are a great way of showing items of interest that don’t warrant a video of their own. Keep up the good work.
Fantastic, Hidden Industrial History, World Building Grandparents.......👣🛠
I was born May 1953 in Rusholme. I really enjoy these videos. I left Manchester in 1976 and now live in NZ
That was utterly delightful to see those little nuggets of history and as you said! survivors 😊😉👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👌
An interview with Geoffrey Ashworth (the person, his book and other things) with pictures and video fragments from places discussed would be quite interesting ❗
I agree, an informal chat with Geoffrey would be fascinating and thanks to him for letting you refer to his book.
@@Steve_Wardley_G6JEF Your idea of an informal chat is even better than an official interview ❗
A chat, a brew an some cones. 👌😉👍
The old tested by time wooden cobbles outlasting the modern, Always amazed me.
Local councils love their tarmac, Then residents complain of cars speeding (Never would have that problem with cobbles) I guess the old is win win situation Martin :)
Here in Vancouver there are a number of streets in the older parts of the city that were paved with wooden blocks, and you can still see them through the asphalt when it breaks down. In this case I believe it was done just because there was so much wood available, and stone cobbles were only used on hills that were steep enough that the horses needed the extra traction.
I'm a brit & I visited Vancouver in 2000.
I was in Stanley Park I think & it said "This way to the heritage building." How could I resist!
So I followed the signs. Past what I thought was the gardener's shed & I carried on.
I found another sign pointing backwards. I thought someone must've turned the sign around. Still no old buildings so I carried on.
Then I got to another sign pointing back the way I came.
So thinking I'd missed something I turned around & started back.
Same deal? Aaargh! Past the storage shed for the gardeners (I guessed) tge signs started pointing backwards.
I saw two Mounties on mountain bikes. "Ahaa! I'll ask for directions."
I explained about the signs & everything and they looked a bit miffed... One of them said "It's not the gardener's tool shed. That's the heritage building!
Bugger! I think I upset them. It was made of wooden slats painted green. Over here it would've been a perfect gardener's tool shed & shelter when it rained.
I realised I'd have to adjust what I thought of as old while I was in BC.
I wish I could apologise to those Mounties! I really didn't mean to upset them!
I think it was the old tram shed... If they hadn't painted it in British Racing Green that we now use for park benches & sheds maybe I wouldn't've made such a mistake!
My host laughed her socks off when I got back to her house in N.Van. 😳
Wooden blocks were also commonly used on tram lines to ease track maintenance…
I'm from Vancouver, where are the wooden cobbles? I know Venables east of Victoria has the old stone cobbles with the tram lines in place. 🇨🇦
@@lesbendo6363 generally east of Main and north of Hastings, scattered about here and there, but I know I've seen a bunch along Alexander. Used to wander around there a lot doing photography, haven't in a while though...
For wooden roads, you also have the plank roads which popped up in Canada and the United States in the first half of the 19th century. IIRC, Danforth Avenue in Toronto was one such plank road.
My "that's ruddy high! DO NOT WANT!" instincts kicked in when you showed the rusting viaduct deck.
Absolutely loved the 5 little historical survivors that you have shown us today. Thank you.
I've been binge watching this great program. Americans don't care to admit it, but the history of the UK is a part of the history of the USA. It's fascinating to see buildings/ infrastructure built a century/centuries before, still in use or preserved versus being dug up or knocked over.
Thanks Marco glad you enjoyed
I always cycle on the towpath of the canals and it's beaks my heart as I love history about our country
5 survivors and 2 heroes. Thanks guys.
Felt physically sick at the last shot down to the MSC so thanks for that! Some great finds there.
"5 things" could a great series for your channel
The cadishead viaduct I was on the team about 10-15 years ago repainting the concrete filled containers that are "supposed" to stop people accessing the structure.
Thanks Martin, great compilation.
Love it. I have a sneaking suspicion that the wooden cobbles may have been installed for the reason 'Artilery Street' has it's name and not because of the hospital (we're talking about a time when small kids where sent up chimnies, so I doubt they'd re-cobble a whole street for skin patients). I think the wooden cobbles may have been to prevent sparks being generated (if there was a gunpowder factory nearby). Just guessing. ... and OOOOOO get her.... nearly at 100K ... Sooner or later someone will have to do something about Cadishead and Latchford viaducts before some poor boat owner finds half a bridge on his deck.
The bollards look like they were redundant canons! Many London bollards are canons turned upside down!
My thoughts exactly
That makes more sense Jenny, they would probably be more concerned about a coal product going in or residue of some volatile chemical coming out.
Hi Jenny. There wasn’t a gunpowder factory nearby. The wooden cobbles are there for the reason mention in the video. I see your reasoning though. Artillery street related to Bonnie Prince Charlie using the area as a gun park. The wooden cobbles came way after that.
Hi Gary it doesn’t “make more sense”. See the answer I gave Jenny above
Thank you Martin. I like that chimmney. That rail bridge made me feel like holding on😂😂😂
If you're not getting grant money for the stellar, top-notch quality, educational and entertaining documentary videos you're making from the various departments and governments in the areas you film it's freaking crime against humanity.
Absolutely loved this video, i'm Cadishead born and bread and used to play on that viaduct with me mates as a kid, loved throwing rocks at the Partington lads lol the whole area has some fantastic history, unfortunately not a lot of it remains but theres still a few little gems like this viaduct and the old Steel Works tunnel thats under that old train line on Tramway Road Irlam. A very old industrial town i love it.
Martin should have knocked on my door for a cup of tea and a slice of cake 🍰 that was a bridge over nowhere 💯💖👍
Nothing better then to have a stress filled week of fixing and reinstalling Windows on a PC for a week and as soon as you finish you see a new Martin Zero vid ... PERFECT TIMING!!!!
Interesting... Who'd of thought we'd have hidden gems around Manchester 👍
Love it....cobbles taken in dry conditions......but still wet, all the best from the lucky country (Australia).
That steam locomotive in green is just gorgeous. Brilliant video once again.
Shame that hospital was demolished....
Thanks for some more little gems....
So enjoyed that Martin, always a pleasure too to see your James. Favourite - hump bridge to nowhere in the new build. Beautiful construction. Well done.
Cheers 👍
Lovely, Now when I look at a chimney, I'll think of screw stoppers.... Cheers Gents, Loved the video, and the brew.
Fantastic video. I really enjoy watching your videos as I find the history around Manchester very fascinating.
some great snippets of lost history Martin, great video again, thanks 😁👍
Martin, you have so much history and little historical "GEMS" all over the Manchester area, you'll be busy making videos for years. At 17:07 The River Medlock was so wide, amazing how narrow it is now. James is a man of few words...... Thanks to the team for another great watch.
Hi Martin ,Amazing , History under your nose ! fabulous guys thank you for showing us these remarkable treasures which i doubt will be around for much longer , but great to see , my regards love liz xxxx
What a beautiful old chimney @ 18:22!!!!
Seeing that Chimney in the woods reminded me of Cheesden Lumb Mill in Rochdale. There is a bloody massive Chimney further up the valley stood lonely in the woods, well worth a visit Martin.
Great to see some uncelebrated history of our lands being documented. Cheers Martin!
I'm a retired Civil Engineer and am interested in history. I really enjoy your videos. Well done. Good Luck, Rick
Fantastic, very interesting. I love the chimney.
Great video
Hi Martin the Tip is the name we use for Clayton Vale. As at some point it was used as a rubbish tip, not to sure of dates on it I remember my Grandad use to tell me.
Lovely! Thanks for sharing - from Ottawa, Canada.
You could definitely do a full-length video on the Stockport Branch Canal. You can walk along its length from Clayton to Gorton Cemetery after which it's largely inaccessible. There are a number of old bridges still in place. For example, just to the south of where you were is the aqueduct over Gorton station which is well worth a visit.
Fantastic. Absolutely brilliant. Going to watch the vlog with the whitewicks you mentioned, Thank you.
Your videos are better than any history lesson at school.
Thanks 😀
@@MartinZero Dude I'm 40+ lol. These will go way beyond mate.
Superb. Really enjoy these 5 things video, Martin. Cheers for doing them!
Cracking video ,the canal bridge is a amazing survivor !!
Absolutely fascinating 👏 👍
Cadishead...awesome...👍👍🏆I think Connor did this one, but just a snipe shot..
I'm sure we used to call that yellow brick road as a kid, where the canal towpath is. Being brought up in Openshaw I find this so fascinating. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻
Amazing video I love these bite size ones.
Love the way that Google maps lists the Cherry Avenue bridge as "temporarily closed"!
Beautiful steam locomotive in the background.
Special facts, such as the wooden street near the hospital.
The Clayton DIngle...lest we never forget!
We will never forget The Dingle
This 'close ' history keeps me reminded of the transience of human life's brief span.
Nice one lads top stuff 🙂🇬🇧✌️
Love the vlogs.
Love all The old waterways you unearth that has been forgotten.
Absolute gems, there, Martin.
Thank you
this is the best time of year to go to old mining towns and railway towns and just film what's left of McKendree hospital deep in the woods fun back story about that one
The stoppers you show as Ebionite look like the old stoppers they used on bottles of Tizer in the 50s/60s. Great vid as usual.
love you vis martin takes me back when i was young living around the area , we use to call that part of the river medlock the red river because it was next too philips park cemetry
Great stuff - dodgy old viaduct...!
Thanks for the upload Martin we enjoyed watching.
Bloody loved this video, thanks Martin! Its right up my street.
Thanks Martin. That was great. I remember the railway and the Cadishead viaduct from my childhood, travelling to see relatives in Glazebrook. Long ago!!
Thank you another walk down the past times in England. Always and interesting trip. Cheers to you both! See you on the next!
Cheers Martin
Great little finds. That bridge in the middle of the modern estate was brilliant. If anything it will secure its future. The chimney is lucky. Fred Dibnah would have taken that down for £100, a pint and some cheese sandwiches. 🙂
Very interesting ! It took a bit but I found the chimney on Google earth. it casts a nice shadow. I honestly believe i could find my way around Manchester now... or at least along the canals and the rivers.
Thanks for the trip!
I love the atmospheric music at 4:20 it’s beautiful and haunting at the same time.
It is tricky finding the location of this "Clayton Dingle" on the old maps. What I do find in the OS 25-inch maps, roughly in the same location, is Sunny Bank Brook. This makes me think that Clayton Dingle is actually the wooded area through which the brook flows. Another very interesting video Martin.
love the old stuff mate keep it alive for generations to see and wonder top vid .
Hi Martin you have got to get a camera along the piped Clayton Dingle, maybe mounted on a radio controlled car or use drain rods attached to a 2 wheel truck. I would love to see if it connects to the mine. Love the video. God bless
Another excellent video bud I'm a Stockport lad living in Wales it's great to see the old sites More remains of the Stockport branch can be seen in reddish and at nelstrop mill Stockport
Great video, thanks Martin & James.
Love this series Martin and i am total with you that chimney is fabulous.
Hello ✋ you ok
@@MartinZero Champion thanks.😁
Incredible and intriguing. The antiquity value is priceless. Valueless to the vulgar.
Absolutely brilliant, again! Thanks!
I noticed the A57 on there have you ever thought of following the run of trunk roads, the A57 went fom liverpool to lincoln going thru my home town of hyde? It has changed so much especially since the M67 was built!👍👍
Cheers lads. Another assortment of little gems. Please keep 'em coming - and the spoon handy.
Thanks Martin for all your detective work and interesting content - fascinating!
Future generations will have so much to thank you for in years to come Martin, for filming and documenting Manchester and surrounding areas, Industrial history and past, and who knows if enough people find out what is left, it may help it being preserved and not pulled down or built over. Thanks .
Amazing video i need to visit Manchester without wife kids so I can look at old stuff
Love you 2 you make a good double act is James your long lost son ha ha keep safe you 2
My favorite type of zero vid,
Hidden treasure.
Second fav would be the beautiful overgrown valleys hiding delapedated mills, and rerouted waterways.
Thankyou.
visited the spur/maintenace depot, schooltrip from Varna Street school about 1955.it was in use at that time.
Enjoy your videos. I live in the American desert and have limited temporary mobility so your vids mean a lot to me. Thanks for you efforts. The chimney in the woods was intriguing.
Thanks very much Gary
Thank you Martin for nice video see you next time
Hi Martin, I regularly walk along Byrom Street and didn't know that! I was amazed when I investigated the pot holes ans seen the wooden cobbles! Keep up the great videos.
Great vlog these little gems you keep finding are really interesting when you show the place on a map along side an old map it just tells a real story of how these places have changed I like that. Autumn is a great time to explore like James said it's just a different world with all the bracken and weeds dying back you can see a lot more.
Fascinating video, Martin. Thanks for that
VERY AMAZING HISTORY AND INFORMATION
Got to get your 5 a day 👍🤗
Excellent little vlog, many thanks.
Fascinating! Thanks for posting this.
There are wooden cobbles in Rochdale too, for the same reason. Outside an old TB hospital
So enjoy watching your videos! As a ( long) exiled Manc it is great to be reminded and often re- educated (!!) about some of the fascinating history of the city and its environs! You really should have your own TV show!!
I love the signal garden at the end! And a great video as always!
Its quite smitting to see your enthusiasm over the small everyday things..
Keeping the history of the Industrial Revolution alive. Great video.
Love the music & every thing about your videos! My forebears came from there (Macclesfield) to Paterson, NJ to the Mills so found you that way! Many thanks!
Interesting video.
It's a shame the old buildings were replaced.
In my country, they are renovated and converted into apartments or lofts .
Very informative as ever love these little snippets of history