At some point before 1 June 1907 Bury council had claimed that half the old bridge was theirs - and demolished “their” half. The locals were upset because it was a right of way and they used it to get to the bleach works or to Radcliffe. They asked for it to be put back, but Bury council wasn’t admitting anything (or paying for it) and no other council wanted to pay up either, so it must have stayed demolished… (Bury Times 1/6/1907)
This may not be the place to ask this, but as I can see your enthusiasm for Manchester gone by, and it's architecture, I wonder if you would be interested to have something my mother gave me, which is a scrapbook compiled by her father around 1910, consisting of about 50 newspaper articles talking about the buildings and parts of Manchester. the articles are all written by a Mr T Swindells, described as the author of a book entitled "Manchester Streets and Manchester Men". Some of the later articles are headed "Manchester of the Past", and are said to be specially written for the paper. Titles include such things as "The beauties of the sylvan district of Ancoats". I live in Haslingden, but could probably post it to you. My mother has no idea why her father compiled this book, which is self bound, with brown paper pages, and I did have a handwritten note with the book explaining that it was made around 1910 in my mothers curlicue script handwriting. Let me know if you think it may be of interest to you. Regards Alan Partington
When you said "lower Chatham Street" I shuddered, having lived in horrific student halls there for a year almost 25 years ago. Can't believe I walked past that well almost every day.
I deliver on Lower Chatham Street every day and I never knew about the well. Absolutely fascinating! I will be taking a look tomorrow. Thanks for sharing Martin.
I really enjoy these mini explores as much as the big ones, history is all arounds us and you help show the little signs from our past, wonderful Martin, well done to you and the guys.
Great to see the large weir and archimedes (arky-me-deez) screw, at Radcliffe. Also, the old pack horse route. We still have the Pack Horse pub in Royston, South Yorkshire. Our old pack horse bridge is above a long disused quarry, behind the Co-op car park. Excellent to see the original tram depot clock tower kept. More developers should take note. Caligula, Martin? Tut. Chuckle. Lower Chatham Street well - fascinating. Best of all, thanks for having a shave.👌 Let's not be going there again, okay?
@@Aengus42 As a post-graduate qualified teacher of Functional English, Dyslexia specialist and 17 years experience has taught me, amongst other things, how to 'sound out' words to make them easier to pronounce.
@@Aengus42 No. Not at all. You might have been joking, instead of extracting the urine. I couldn't take the risk. I thought it better to show the correct pronunciation for in case one of Martin's viewers wasn't sure how to say it.
23:02, that's the mechanism to manually set the points. At every tram (not only back in the days but modern trams as well) all have an steel "stake" to switch the points. Sometimes because the automated switching fails, sometimes because they only can be hand switched. The old(er) systems around depots were all manual switches. The rebuilt of the backwall of the depot was not only because of the new windows in it but also because backwalls of depots have a hidden feature in it. Those walls are build as "easy to break" - when a tramcar wouldn't stop in the depot, it would break through the wall/doors at the end instead of crashing into the wall. The wall was build in such way the bricks would come easily out of the wall, preventing the depot from collapsing if a tram would hit the backwall. A tram crashing into the street behind the depot would effect less casualties or damage than the collaps of the depot.
You beat me to this reply by 4 months. That'll teach me for not scrolling down before adding my own comment about the points 🤣 These switches look like they were single bladed too.
Awesome history but please stop running ! I'm knackered just watching 😜. Come on time for some regional variety. Warrington, Widnes, StHelens and Runcorn still have some really interesting industrial heritage hiding in plain sight.
Think I may start following these dudes.... never boring and, in my book, every day is a school day.... great information. Well thought out.... run, James, run... n get the tea on!
Hi Martin, Hutchinson's goit supplied water to the East Lancashire Paper Mill in Radcliffe, where I worked as Mill Chemist. It fed into the 'city tea' lodge which was just alongside Church st. I remember the 'watermen' who looked after the lodges and goits that fed the mill. They would regularly clear the weeds from the goit - happy days !! Andy.
The metallic box next to the tramtrack are the box to shift the track i two directions. The tramdriver had a long stick with a "key" that fitted into the hole. When turning it he could make the track shift from side to side...
You should do a video on Compstall, just over werneth low in Hyde - sandwiched between Tameside and Marple. It’s a mill town built by George Andrew in the early 19th century. One of the mills is still there and there’s a huge weir and plenty of industrial remains at the man made reservoirs that supplied the mills
I remember looking in the woods next to old blackford bridge and finding the old dye works along with a massive dump of bottles, some still with what looked like dye inside, its probably still all there!
At 16:48 I think you're describing a railway line. you can see the curve junction just above the road junction. That thing at 23:10 is most likely where they inserted the lever to change the points. A quick Google tells us concrete was invented around 7000BC. It'd be nice to drop a plumb line down that well. I love these "trivia".
12:10 Archimedes' screw The screw pump is the oldest positive displacement pump.The first records of a water screw, or screw pump, date back to Hellenistic Egypt before the 3rd century BC
So glad you covered Bealeys weir, occasionally I’ve delivered to DHL opposite, when you exit and turn right you can’t miss the weir. When there’s little water going over, it’s a beautiful structure. Loving your channel, excellent work
Another Smashed It production by Sir Martin.I love all your work,but this truly appealed to my imagination. As you walk through Angel Meadow.I literally see the hardworking people who lived and too often died young there. You know I hate romanticizing poverty so I think honoring all of this city’s past both rich and poor is critical.Too often today people think they have it bad.and ok there is more than some acknowledge,but your work honors this city l fondly say adopted me. When I walk into Salford my first time,a bloke from across the pond,due to your incredible work I shall feel a kinship. I know it is an old promise,but yes pints are on me mate, I shall be honored to meet you when l fly into Manchester sometime in 23,and I hope it is ok to say your work and friendship from afar have gotten me through a lot. Survivors Manchester based in Salford brought me back from a rough place,and your videos have been equally of my heart. Thank you Martin,,
Loved it. I visited Bealey's Goit some years ago and noticed (I think) that the sluice mechanism was made in Kilmarnock, so I contacted the museum there for further information. Loved the well and the bridge - not seen before. Often pass Weaste "tram depot" on my way to Weaste Cemetery, but had no idea that they only kept the front wall ! Many thanks Martin and James.
i really like these ones you do like this Martin, as always good work chap, an many thanks for all your endless perseverance putting these together for us each week i do love a little bit of history on sunday, top marks :)
Martin, Another great video. Love the History of the U.K. Miss the Beard. Gave you an air of Authority and Wisdom. Your friend from Manchester, NH U.S.A
Great to see more tram track. The well looks like it has a cover as there is a straight line by hole 1. Also learned that the word Goight is not just an insult used in Red Dwarf.
Excellent Martin! All Five!! I live near the old bridge and when I went for a walk down there I had funny looks from the residents in the houses, so Put me off! Lol. Well done !!!
The interesting thing about the weaste depot tram tracks is what they were connected to. The tracks that you showed us turned into Hessle St which was the street behind the depot. There it split into two tracks which entered the building through two seperate doors. Immediately inside was a "traverser" which was a set of sliding tracks that slid in a recess in the floor. The tram would go onto the traverser and this slid along sideways to line up with one of nine "track lanes" in the garage. The tram then drove off on to its allocated lane. In the morning the trams would drive off through points at the front of the garage though one of two doors out onto Eccles new Rd. There are pictures of this traverser, Hessle St and a garage track plan in the book Salfords Tramwasys vol 2 by Edward Grey.
Thank for posting this, I was born in Hope Hospital in Salford & lived in Eccles, when I was 5 we moved to Wales but still have Family on my dads side so go up now & then!
Hi Martin. Excellent, as usual. You are right. They are not TRIVIA - they are ESSENTAILS. So you can rename your excellent five historical survivors as Essentials. Cheers mate. Keep 'em coming and stay safe.
I'm really enjoying your videos. Great historic insights! I'm a Mancunian, born and bred hut haven't lived there for ages now. Presently living in South West France but planning a pilgrimage to visit some of the old sites you have kindly uncovered. Please keep this up. Thank you very much.
Hi Martin, What a great series of videos, what was even more interesting to us was when you visited Blackford Bridge, where we live.. in fact more to the point , you showed a series of photos and in one of them photos, with the houses, in fact our house was in that photo, where could i get a copy of that photo. I’m not sure if you were aware but we found out that the demolished works buildings opposite from us did in fact used to be a bleach works, also it used to be a tannery, the houses we live in (in the photo) were originally built in 1842 and are addressed as ‘Old Bridge End’ and were of course, just off Manchester Old Road. Another snippet we were told was that the reason the bridge was half demolished was originally from an agreement between the Manchester Old road ran between Whitefield & Bury and it a boundary between the two areas, Bury and Whitefield agreed to demolish the old bridge, Bury did their part, but Whitefield decided not to complete their part, so hence it is half demolished.
Fantastic guys, this is great. 15 mins walk from my home have walked some of this route.. Thanks guys. Being in a wheelchair I can't walk it anymore. Keep the trivia coming
Hi Martin, James and the crew. Some further trivia there is a capped off well in the Cruz101 club in the village. When the club first opened it was just an iron grid on top but as clubbers used it dump empty cans/bottles it was capped off with a solid capping. I am sure I can remember the Weaste tram/bus depot had opening doors on the frontage with Eccles road with tram rails running onto Eccles Road as well as on that side road. Also I am sure these double height doors were part of an attempted preservation order as they were ornate and metal? coated. Perhaps something to whet your curiosity. Cheers DougT in Mancs
I worked at Bealeys bleaching and dyeing company on Dumers Lane Radcliffe in the late 1960s and early 70s It was a very old fashioned company, using lots of river and towns water water for processing fabric. They had been very forward thinking at times - supplying their own water from the river originally - and had a steam turbine to produce their own electricity. During the 3 day week in the 70s[ due to union unrest across the country] the company were not allowed to run, even with producing their own electric, as this would have been seen as having an unfair advantage over other dyeing plants. The company closed in the late 1980 - 90s period and is now a housing estate. On the of the road was Bealeys Maternity Home. Started by the original mill owners.
I absolutely love industrial archeology and thar old fallen bridge is indescribably romantic, just the sort of thing Turner or any of the romantic painters would have used as inspiration. Great stuff.
Martin. Excellent mate as ever and very interesting. The wording on the points at Weaste that you couldn't clearly read, would most probably have read "Edgar Allan of Sheffield," the makers of many of the UK's tram track and points and the world's too for that matter. And yes, that box next to the track with the unclear writing on it, would operate the points with a "points iron" or bar.
With apologies for adding to the shoals of interesting comments on this excellent video, I'd like to add a bit about Weaste tram depot. The mystery cut-off track continuing on Hessel Street was part of a "3-point turn" triangular layout used to reverse trams. I have a photograph showing the back of the tram depot, with the tram track behind, it before demolition. The track inside the depot was like new, and we wanted to preserve it when the depot was in use for warehousing, but were told we'd have to reinstate the floor to high and unaffordable standards, so presumably the track was scrapped. We did manage to preserve the 62-ton Grand Union tram junction from "Ship Corner", near Weaste, when the M602 was being built though. The story of that junction would make an interesting episode, which I could help with. The box alongside the points on Hessel Street contains a spring toggle mechanism which holds the points in whichever position they've been set by inserting a point iron, carried on all trams, into the gap either side of the point blade. The hole in the mechanism lid is for inserting a finger or lifter to remove the lid and get at the mechanism to oil or adjust it, or to convert the points into spring-activated mode. The track paving is formed of (pothole-proof!) granite setts, commonly and insultingly referred to as "cobbles". Setts are made in quarries, and form a smooth surface. Cobbles are found in rivers or beaches and form a knobbly surface. I can supply photos to illustrate all of this.
You are right is the pack horse route to Bury it comes our at the bottom of the remembrance garden and there's the old horse trough still there. Lily Hill Street printers cottages 1780 built still there. Also the old pack horse pub now a gin bar still has the cobbled street in front of the door.
I bet hole #2 leads under Hulme St. and straight into the Medlock. Once more unto the -breach- culvert, dear friends, and see where. I shiver with excitement just thinking about it.
Martin, your use of maps is great for the story, great work. A mistake on google earth, "I can't believe it." "Run James Run" priceless.... Little stories of historic trivia are just as important as the big stories or you could say "There is nothing trivial about history." Well well well Martin this was another great watch, and your narration is full of enthusiasm. Well, time to start the BBQ. Thanks to you and your team. How long do the batteries last in the torch?
I gotta tell ya, I’ve been watching your channel for a while now. Came across it by RUclips suggestions while looking at mine exploring channels . I use to live in Pennsylvania, now in Florida, and have been a history buff since I was in elementary school. Pennsylvania has a lot of historical buildings and mines. But compared to the UK it’s nothing. I love the way you explain the sites you visit, not just go there and say what it is and leave. Someday I would love to visit there and just tour the country, not for the ‘touristy’ places, but for the hidden architectural things. Thank you for showing the places you do, it really brings to light how old and beautiful your country is.
Just found your channel.very good to watch. The part of salford where you found the tram lines and said about the landslide, the actual place we used to call the lanny , short for the landslide. We used to play there as kids. we lived at 325 great clowes street
So we've just watched you're first live stream and we have a few nostalgic things that didn't get named - Name that Tune, Sale of the Century, Tom Foolery, Dr Who!, Grange Hill, Button Moon, Clangers, Stig of the Dump, The Book tower, Rosie and Jim, the one with Magnus Pike?, Newsround, there was also one that was a late night Tiswas (it had more "naughty" bits). I remember the boy who won the pools! Morph, the art program with Tony Hart that Morph was on, On the road (was a public help program to teach people numbers, reading, time etc.) Some mother's do 'ave em.
1st class martin I'm watching this in a commercial boiler house while I'm waiting for a intermittent fault to show itself although I think I've found it ....I will see the rest tonight ... if i ever climb Into my crisp bed with my crisp filly x
Thanks Martin a very interesting video as usual but you did make me smile when you were running down the embankment and James was running behind you with the camera you reminded me of Anneka Rice and treasure hunt years ago although sorry to say she had a nicer bub
Hi. The small rectanglar box next to the points is where you can switch them from.(at about 23:20) A small par is inserted into the hole on top and you can switch it one way or the other. It is only the switch blabe on the side the box is on that moves. The wheel is pushed one way of the other by the front or back sides of the blade. on the opposite side, the wheel will be in the position to go up either side, but of course is set by the wheel width to follw the same as the other side.
Glad to see that they didn't take the makeup of the areas away as they were what made the industrial revolution possible and it put the great in great Britain,, brilliant video thanks for taking the time to put these things together for us to watch top job from Belfast Northern Ireland greatly appreciated ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️most cobbled streets away salvage yards one pound fifty each cobble
RUN JAMES RUN!!!!! Classic footage!!! Had us in stitches!!! Well done Martin....another brilliantly put together video capturing these little glimpses of our past. Love looking at the old maps !! Sundays with Martin Zero reminds of the days of Time Team with Tony Robinson. Cant give higher praise than that. All the best . Lee.
I think Engels mentioned the tenements being flooded as they were at a lower level than the river in places. The tower may have provided water at a level above the flood water.
At some point before 1 June 1907 Bury council had claimed that half the old bridge was theirs - and demolished “their” half. The locals were upset because it was a right of way and they used it to get to the bleach works or to Radcliffe. They asked for it to be put back, but Bury council wasn’t admitting anything (or paying for it) and no other council wanted to pay up either, so it must have stayed demolished… (Bury Times 1/6/1907)
This may not be the place to ask this, but as I can see your enthusiasm for Manchester gone by, and it's architecture, I wonder if you would be interested to have something my mother gave me, which is a scrapbook compiled by her father around 1910, consisting of about 50 newspaper articles talking about the buildings and parts of Manchester. the articles are all written by a Mr T Swindells, described as the author of a book entitled "Manchester Streets and Manchester Men". Some of the later articles are headed "Manchester of the Past", and are said to be specially written for the paper. Titles include such things as "The beauties of the sylvan district of Ancoats". I live in Haslingden, but could probably post it to you. My mother has no idea why her father compiled this book, which is self bound, with brown paper pages, and I did have a handwritten note with the book explaining that it was made around 1910 in my mothers curlicue script handwriting.
Let me know if you think it may be of interest to you.
Regards
Alan Partington
You might want to prompt Martin again if you haven't heard from him by now!
When you said "lower Chatham Street" I shuddered, having lived in horrific student halls there for a year almost 25 years ago. Can't believe I walked past that well almost every day.
I’m glad that James is a mainstay in your videos now, it’s like when Dr. Who teamed up with Maryanne, it just works. Love your work
This sort of stuff is brilliant. Places you just walk by, literally under your feet, without knowing. Keep 'em coming! Love it.
I deliver on Lower Chatham Street every day and I never knew about the well. Absolutely fascinating! I will be taking a look tomorrow. Thanks for sharing Martin.
I really enjoy these mini explores as much as the big ones, history is all arounds us and you help show the little signs from our past, wonderful Martin, well done to you and the guys.
Not so much pieces of historic trivia as small nuggets of historical gold Martin. Many 🙏
Great to see the large weir and archimedes (arky-me-deez) screw, at Radcliffe. Also, the old pack horse route. We still have the Pack Horse pub in Royston, South Yorkshire. Our old pack horse bridge is above a long disused quarry, behind the Co-op car park.
Excellent to see the original tram depot clock tower kept. More developers should take note.
Caligula, Martin? Tut. Chuckle.
Lower Chatham Street well - fascinating.
Best of all, thanks for having a shave.👌 Let's not be going there again, okay?
How'd you know it wasn't pronounced "Are-kimmy-deeze"?
It's like the Radio Times should be the "Raddy-otto-meeze"! 😆
@@Aengus42 As a post-graduate qualified teacher of Functional English, Dyslexia specialist and 17 years experience has taught me, amongst other things, how to 'sound out' words to make them easier to pronounce.
@@quickclipsbyjmj No doubt.
But did that experience rob you of a sense of humour too?
I fear it may have done...
@@Aengus42 No. Not at all. You might have been joking, instead of extracting the urine. I couldn't take the risk. I thought it better to show the correct pronunciation for in case one of Martin's viewers wasn't sure how to say it.
So that must mean an Arch is actually an Ark.🤭🤭
Social History at its finest. Great work Martin!
Thanks Paul
Sunday with Martin, James, and five more bits of history… it’s a good day 😊
Edit: 5:01 Brilliant 😄
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Couldn't agree more, such a treat to sit down on a Sunday evening. And the five interesting things series is just a fab format.
23:02, that's the mechanism to manually set the points. At every tram (not only back in the days but modern trams as well) all have an steel "stake" to switch the points. Sometimes because the automated switching fails, sometimes because they only can be hand switched. The old(er) systems around depots were all manual switches.
The rebuilt of the backwall of the depot was not only because of the new windows in it but also because backwalls of depots have a hidden feature in it. Those walls are build as "easy to break" - when a tramcar wouldn't stop in the depot, it would break through the wall/doors at the end instead of crashing into the wall. The wall was build in such way the bricks would come easily out of the wall, preventing the depot from collapsing if a tram would hit the backwall. A tram crashing into the street behind the depot would effect less casualties or damage than the collaps of the depot.
You beat me to this reply by 4 months. That'll teach me for not scrolling down before adding my own comment about the points 🤣 These switches look like they were single bladed too.
Awesome history but please stop running ! I'm knackered just watching 😜.
Come on time for some regional variety. Warrington, Widnes, StHelens and Runcorn still have some really interesting industrial heritage hiding in plain sight.
Think I may start following these dudes.... never boring and, in my book, every day is a school day.... great information. Well thought out.... run, James, run... n get the tea on!
Hi Martin, Hutchinson's goit supplied water to the East Lancashire Paper Mill in Radcliffe, where I worked as Mill Chemist. It fed into the 'city tea' lodge which was just alongside Church st. I remember the 'watermen' who looked after the lodges and goits that fed the mill. They would regularly clear the weeds from the goit - happy days !! Andy.
The metallic box next to the tramtrack are the box to shift the track i two directions. The tramdriver had a long stick with a "key" that fitted into the hole. When turning it he could make the track shift from side to side...
I love the industrial heritage , the dank , gloomy , and gritty past
Cracking little gems! That collapsed bridge was my fav and that well, how fascinating, you wouldn't want to lose your keys or phone down there! 😳😁
You should do a video on Compstall, just over werneth low in Hyde - sandwiched between Tameside and Marple. It’s a mill town built by George Andrew in the early 19th century. One of the mills is still there and there’s a huge weir and plenty of industrial remains at the man made reservoirs that supplied the mills
I remember looking in the woods next to old blackford bridge and finding the old dye works along with a massive dump of bottles, some still with what looked like dye inside, its probably still all there!
Excellent social history. It may be small but it's very important! 👍
At 16:48 I think you're describing a railway line. you can see the curve junction just above the road junction. That thing at 23:10 is most likely where they inserted the lever to change the points. A quick Google tells us concrete was invented around 7000BC. It'd be nice to drop a plumb line down that well.
I love these "trivia".
12:10 Archimedes' screw The screw pump is the oldest positive displacement pump.The first records of a water screw, or screw pump, date back to Hellenistic Egypt before the 3rd century BC
So glad you covered Bealeys weir, occasionally I’ve delivered to DHL opposite, when you exit and turn right you can’t miss the weir. When there’s little water going over, it’s a beautiful structure.
Loving your channel, excellent work
Another Smashed It production by Sir Martin.I love all your work,but this truly appealed to my imagination. As you walk through Angel Meadow.I literally see the hardworking people who lived and too often died young there. You know I hate romanticizing poverty so I think honoring all of this city’s past both rich and poor is critical.Too often today people think they have it bad.and ok there is more than some acknowledge,but your work honors this city l fondly say adopted me. When I walk into Salford my first time,a bloke from across the pond,due to your incredible work I shall feel a kinship. I know it is an old promise,but yes pints are on me mate, I shall be honored to meet you when l fly into Manchester sometime in 23,and I hope it is ok to say your work and friendship from afar have gotten me through a lot. Survivors Manchester based in Salford brought me back from a rough place,and your videos have been equally of my heart. Thank you Martin,,
I like this guy. Enthusiasm! Passion! Knowledge!
Loved it. I visited Bealey's Goit some years ago and noticed (I think) that the sluice mechanism was made in Kilmarnock, so I contacted the museum there for further information. Loved the well and the bridge - not seen before. Often pass Weaste "tram depot" on my way to Weaste Cemetery, but had no idea that they only kept the front wall ! Many thanks Martin and James.
i really like these ones you do like this Martin, as always good work chap, an many thanks for all your endless perseverance putting these together for us each week i do love a little bit of history on sunday, top marks :)
Thank you
Love old tram lines history
Martin, Another great video. Love the History of the U.K. Miss the Beard. Gave you an air of Authority and Wisdom. Your friend from Manchester, NH U.S.A
I am not from your area but I do love the Industrial and urban history of the British Isles, and your Anneka Rice impression, now to find the clue ;-)
12:01 Bealey’s Hydropower Archimedean Screw is interesting, great how we are making use of the head of water today.
Just love this history of Manchester thanks Martin and James
Thanks Guys for taking me along with you today !
Great to see more tram track. The well looks like it has a cover as there is a straight line by hole 1. Also learned that the word Goight is not just an insult used in Red Dwarf.
Love Red Dwarf!!!!
Excellent Martin! All
Five!! I live near the old bridge and when I went for a walk down there I had funny looks from the residents in the houses, so
Put me off! Lol. Well done !!!
The interesting thing about the weaste depot tram tracks is what they were connected to. The tracks that you showed us turned into Hessle St which was the street behind the depot. There it split into two tracks which entered the building through two seperate doors. Immediately inside was a "traverser" which was a set of sliding tracks that slid in a recess in the floor. The tram would go onto the traverser and this slid along sideways to line up with one of nine "track lanes" in the garage. The tram then drove off on to its allocated lane. In the morning the trams would drive off through points at the front of the garage though one of two doors out onto Eccles new Rd. There are pictures of this traverser, Hessle St and a garage track plan in the book Salfords Tramwasys vol 2 by Edward Grey.
Thanks
Thank you Darren really appreciate that
Spring Gardens and Fountain Street. Now I know where the names came from. Thanks Martin.
Thank for posting this, I was born in Hope Hospital in Salford & lived in Eccles, when I was 5 we moved to Wales but still have Family on my dads side so go up now & then!
Hi Martin. Excellent, as usual. You are right. They are not TRIVIA - they are ESSENTAILS. So you can rename your excellent five historical survivors as Essentials. Cheers mate. Keep 'em coming and stay safe.
I'm really enjoying your videos. Great historic insights! I'm a Mancunian, born and bred hut haven't lived there for ages now. Presently living in South West France but planning a pilgrimage to visit some of the old sites you have kindly uncovered. Please keep this up.
Thank you very much.
The Why's and The Weirs.... Sending love Martin, James and squad 🌼
just fabulous. great watching, brilliant.
Hi Martin, What a great series of videos, what was even more interesting to us was when you visited Blackford Bridge, where we live.. in fact more to the point , you showed a series of photos and in one of them photos, with the houses, in fact our house was in that photo, where could i get a copy of that photo. I’m not sure if you were aware but we found out that the demolished works buildings opposite from us did in fact used to be a bleach works, also it used to be a tannery, the houses we live in (in the photo) were originally built in 1842 and are addressed as ‘Old Bridge End’ and were of course, just off Manchester Old Road. Another snippet we were told was that the reason the bridge was half demolished was originally from an agreement between the Manchester Old road ran between Whitefield & Bury and it a boundary between the two areas, Bury and Whitefield agreed to demolish the old bridge, Bury did their part, but Whitefield decided not to complete their part, so hence it is half demolished.
Fantastic guys, this is great. 15 mins walk from my home have walked some of this route.. Thanks guys. Being in a wheelchair I can't walk it anymore. Keep the trivia coming
Hi Martin, James and the crew. Some further trivia there is a capped off well in the Cruz101 club in the village. When the club first opened it was just an iron grid on top but as clubbers used it dump empty cans/bottles it was capped off with a solid capping. I am sure I can remember the Weaste tram/bus depot had opening doors on the frontage with Eccles road with tram rails running onto Eccles Road as well as on that side road. Also I am sure these double height doors were part of an attempted preservation order as they were ornate and metal? coated. Perhaps something to whet your curiosity. Cheers DougT in Mancs
Thanks for the info Doug, interesting about the well
Haven't even watched this yet, but I KNOW it's right down my alley! 😍
Cheers Adam
And another great video buddy 👍 👏 👌 😀 thanks
Fascinated by the well!
I worked at Bealeys bleaching and dyeing company on Dumers Lane Radcliffe in the late 1960s and early 70s
It was a very old fashioned company, using lots of river and towns water water for processing fabric. They had been very forward thinking at times - supplying their own water from the river originally - and had a steam turbine to produce their own electricity.
During the 3 day week in the 70s[ due to union unrest across the country] the company were not allowed to run, even with producing their own electric, as this would have been seen as having an unfair advantage over other dyeing plants.
The company closed in the late 1980 - 90s period and is now a housing estate.
On the of the road was Bealeys Maternity Home. Started by the original mill owners.
I absolutely love industrial archeology and thar old fallen bridge is indescribably romantic, just the sort of thing Turner or any of the romantic painters would have used as inspiration. Great stuff.
Martin. Excellent mate as ever and very interesting.
The wording on the points at Weaste that you couldn't clearly read, would most probably have read "Edgar Allan of Sheffield," the makers of many of the UK's tram track and points and the world's too for that matter.
And yes, that box next to the track with the unclear writing on it, would operate the points with a "points iron" or bar.
Keep these up Martin, five times as much history in one hit, superb👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Well done Martin. Loved this👏👏👏
Well said Martin … I certainly appreciate the “trivia” you’re bringing light to … thank you 🙏
Thanks Nigel
Wow Martin you took your life into your hands walking over the old Stonebridge
Another brilliant video Martin! You guys do Manchester and it’s storied history PROUD
Fantastic video 📹 and history of Manchester, and they wonder why people don't watch TV anymore. More please.
With apologies for adding to the shoals of interesting comments on this excellent video, I'd like to add a bit about Weaste tram depot. The mystery cut-off track continuing on Hessel Street was part of a "3-point turn" triangular layout used to reverse trams. I have a photograph showing the back of the tram depot, with the tram track behind, it before demolition. The track inside the depot was like new, and we wanted to preserve it when the depot was in use for warehousing, but were told we'd have to reinstate the floor to high and unaffordable standards, so presumably the track was scrapped. We did manage to preserve the 62-ton Grand Union tram junction from "Ship Corner", near Weaste, when the M602 was being built though. The story of that junction would make an interesting episode, which I could help with. The box alongside the points on Hessel Street contains a spring toggle mechanism which holds the points in whichever position they've been set by inserting a point iron, carried on all trams, into the gap either side of the point blade. The hole in the mechanism lid is for inserting a finger or lifter to remove the lid and get at the mechanism to oil or adjust it, or to convert the points into spring-activated mode. The track paving is formed of (pothole-proof!) granite setts, commonly and insultingly referred to as "cobbles". Setts are made in quarries, and form a smooth surface. Cobbles are found in rivers or beaches and form a knobbly surface. I can supply photos to illustrate all of this.
You are right is the pack horse route to Bury it comes our at the bottom of the remembrance garden and there's the old horse trough still there.
Lily Hill Street printers cottages 1780 built still there.
Also the old pack horse pub now a gin bar still has the cobbled street in front of the door.
I bet hole #2 leads under Hulme St. and straight into the Medlock. Once more unto the -breach- culvert, dear friends, and see where. I shiver with excitement just thinking about it.
Another belter our kid.
Thankyou! Fantastic as ever!
Martin, your use of maps is great for the story, great work. A mistake on google earth, "I can't believe it." "Run James Run" priceless.... Little stories of historic trivia are just as important as the big stories or you could say "There is nothing trivial about history." Well well well Martin this was another great watch, and your narration is full of enthusiasm. Well, time to start the BBQ. Thanks to you and your team. How long do the batteries last in the torch?
Excellent. Absolutely fascinating as always.
I gotta tell ya, I’ve been watching your channel for a while now. Came across it by RUclips suggestions while looking at mine exploring channels . I use to live in Pennsylvania, now in Florida, and have been a history buff since I was in elementary school. Pennsylvania has a lot of historical buildings and mines. But compared to the UK it’s nothing. I love the way you explain the sites you visit, not just go there and say what it is and leave. Someday I would love to visit there and just tour the country, not for the ‘touristy’ places, but for the hidden architectural things. Thank you for showing the places you do, it really brings to light how old and beautiful your country is.
Hi Martin, thanks for the shout out 👍 glad you managed to do the goits/ weir in Radcliffe. Great video as always. Ste
No problem, thanks for the info
The bridge is really beautiful
Just found your channel.very good to watch.
The part of salford where you found the tram lines and said about the landslide, the actual place we used to call the lanny , short for the landslide. We used to play there as kids.
we lived at 325 great clowes street
So we've just watched you're first live stream and we have a few nostalgic things that didn't get named - Name that Tune, Sale of the Century, Tom Foolery, Dr Who!, Grange Hill, Button Moon, Clangers, Stig of the Dump, The Book tower, Rosie and Jim, the one with Magnus Pike?, Newsround, there was also one that was a late night Tiswas (it had more "naughty" bits). I remember the boy who won the pools! Morph, the art program with Tony Hart that Morph was on, On the road (was a public help program to teach people numbers, reading, time etc.) Some mother's do 'ave em.
1st class martin I'm watching this in a commercial boiler house while I'm waiting for a intermittent fault to show itself although I think I've found it ....I will see the rest tonight ... if i ever climb Into my crisp bed with my crisp filly x
Good luck with the fault finding
I remember the old tram lines , was having a wander round there a while ago. Smashing video again Martin, cheers, Slurp
You can see re-bar as such in hole 2 which has been bent backwards and that is supporting the concrete cap over the rest of the shaft.
Thanks Martin a very interesting video as usual but you did make me smile when you were running down the embankment and James was running behind you with the camera you reminded me of Anneka Rice and treasure hunt years ago although sorry to say she had a nicer bub
Hi. The small rectanglar box next to the points is where you can switch them from.(at about 23:20) A small par is inserted into the hole on top and you can switch it one way or the other. It is only the switch blabe on the side the box is on that moves. The wheel is pushed one way of the other by the front or back sides of the blade. on the opposite side, the wheel will be in the position to go up either side, but of course is set by the wheel width to follw the same as the other side.
A triumph! Especially the authentic Roman footings. I love this format, Martin, well done.🇯🇪
Glad to see that they didn't take the makeup of the areas away as they were what made the industrial revolution possible and it put the great in great Britain,, brilliant video thanks for taking the time to put these things together for us to watch top job from Belfast Northern Ireland greatly appreciated ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️most cobbled streets away salvage yards one pound fifty each cobble
Thank you Cecil,
Another good one. Thank you Martin.
23:04 I think that the switch gear for the points where the conductor would have got off and switched the direction.
Very correct.
@@notsohairybiker Similar system to Blackpool trams. Point turning.
Happy New Year guys from Nantwich! 👏🏻🎉
If it was a very busy set of points there would be a points boy in attendance just to change them
Production get's better and better fascinating story and much appreciated Martin.
Lovely tour again Martin, ps the goatee suits you sir 🥰
Thanks you Martin for a nice video see you next week
Martin! Another first class video Thanks! Beloved and I were transfixed.
Loved this Martin always go to that weir in Radcliffe
That was brilliant Martin! Really well done on that mate.
Hello, and thanks very much 👍
Loving the Archimedes Screw in action, old technology brought to life in a modern era
thank so much for more U.K history.
RUN JAMES RUN!!!!! Classic footage!!! Had us in stitches!!! Well done Martin....another brilliantly put together video capturing these little glimpses of our past. Love looking at the old maps !! Sundays with Martin Zero reminds of the days of Time Team with Tony Robinson. Cant give higher praise than that. All the best . Lee.
Great video Martin like history of great of Manchester like u channel
Good to see you back. Happy New Year from Bill the Mancunian in Western Australia.
Excellent historical snippets of Manchesters past. ❤️
I think Engels mentioned the tenements being flooded as they were at a lower level than the river in places. The tower may have provided water at a level above the flood water.
Home I miss the place and the people I'm currently stuck down south I will return one day
Thanks for another great video. That well has me intrigued.
Brilliant loved the film
Fascinating. I was born in Bealey's Maternity Hospital - you can see it at 4:04 on the map
Thanks for doing these videos Martin. It saves me ever having to go to that hell hole called Manchester myself haha
It's the small things that make up the big picture. These trivia artifacts are the pixels in it. Thanks for sharing !
Great stuff again, lads. Benny Hill theme music required for 7:50 I think.