This should be broadcast on regional TV, superbly presented. This fascinating presentation threw light on many things that remained mysteries over decades.
Thank you, I actually filmed 9 more films in the summer of 2021 but sadly haven't had time to write a script for them even though they are already edited 🙄 Life just got very busy unfortunately 🙄 Still hopefully one day I'll finish the next one & post it 🤞😊🤞
Thank you so much. I'm a Salford lad. I never thought I would watch something like this. What an amazing journey. Schools in Salford/Manchester should show this video in history lessons. Never thought I would find the bridges i had travelled across so many times so interesting.
What can I say, thank you! What a beautiful, well researched video, should be mandatory viewing in every Architecture & Engineering School in the land.
I cannot believe how well produced and interesting this is. As a many generations Salfordian/Mancunian I thought I knew a fair amount about the banks of the Orwell, but this has taken my knowledge to another level. I was going to just dip into this video, but watched to the end without a break. Everything about it was great: maps, highlighting of routes, old photographs, music, filming, commentary. It must have taken an age to edit. Honestly, this was as good as any broadcast documentary. Thank you.
Thank you very much merlini1 😊 I very much appreciate your comment & yes it took nearly a year to put together. I've actually finished editing the next one last year, but have still yet to write & narrate the script. Just not enough hours in the day. Hopefully I'll get some time soon though 😊 Thanks again 😊
A brilliant documentary. Excellently filmed and presented. As a born and bred Mancunian I'd like to thank you very much for bringing some of our industrial history to life.
Absolutely fantastic video! As a proud Manchester man this has to be the best historical video about Manchester . A lot of time and work has gone into the historical research, filming and editing, plus paddle power! Well done!
This is absolutely true. I can get pictures from my cousin of it. We went down the old Hulme locks on his narrowboat and we turned right and got as far as just the other side of Trinity bridge before we ran aground. Went back and had a drink in the Mark Addy pub. Love the video.
A Major amount of quality work has clearly gone into this history of Manchester from the River Irwel. I would go as far as saying this is my favourite historic video of Manchester. I loved the references and maps so much that it took me a good 2 hours to get through it. Very impressed, keep the videos coming! #manchesterhistory #riverirwell #history
Thank you so much for the awesome comment Mark, I really appreciate it mate. Glad you enjoyed my video & rest assured they'll be plenty more videos along in the future 👍😁
@@DermGNR you’re welcome. I’m a ship’s pilot on the Manchester Ship Canal (since 2018) based at Eastham. I regularly take 5000 tonne ships as far as Weaste, and we swing just below the Mode Wheel locks. It was so interesting to see your video exploring the upper reaches though.
Ohh that's fantastic, I'd love to do that for a living. One of my grandfather's worked at the Salford Docks as a store keeper & about 20 years ago we were sent 2 tickets, free of charge, to take a trip on the Liverpool Ferry from Manchester to Liverpool. I can't remember much but the captain let me take the wheel when we were out in the estuary, an experience I will never forget 😄 I remember having to keep between the buoys & spent most of my time staring at the compass making sure I stayed on the numbers he called out 😅 I absolutely loved it. I think I'll book on the next ferry cruise, should they return to normal at some point in the future 😁 Until then if you've ever got room for a wee one let me know mate 👍😁
@@DermGNR We used to be able to take the odd person on board with permission from Peel Ports who own the Canal, but since the lockdown bollocks all that has been stopped unfortunately. We can’t even take potential trainee pilots on board at the moment, it really is ridiculous. I don’t blame Peel, but more the nonsense being inflicted on us by the government. We’ve been fortunate at least that our trade on the Canal has held up well over the last year though. The vast majority of it is to Ellesmere Port, Stanlow and Runcorn nowadays.
Ohh I totally understand but you never know, if they ever revert back once the world starts spinning again, it would be an absolute pleasure to join you guys for a trip so please keep me in mind 😁. But never the less it's a pleasure to make you acquaintance mate 👍😁 & thank you very much for enjoying my video. I currently have about another 9 videos (all filmed in 2020) that I'm working on 😅 the next one should be out soon though 😊
I grew up ( born 1958 ) next to the Canal. ( Chester Road Swing Bridge ) and i can remember watching the Manchester Liners going through the Swing Bridge. They might be small in today's standards, but back in the day, they looked huge. For the last 20 years, I've lived quite close to 'Latchford Locks', which is not as busy nowadays , sadly. New Subscriber here, and thanks for sharing this video.
What an enjoyable video, this has inspired me more than ever to revisit my long absence from canoeing in 2025. You can see so much more from the water and I can only hope my paddling skills get half as good as yours! 👍
@@dieselmanmike thank you very much Mike, I too would like to get back to my canoeing, I've barely been out over the last 2 years and I really miss it. Here's to an adventurous 2025 😊👍
What a great video, thank you for your time and research. I have to admit I wasn't aware of all the waterways that Manchester and Salford sit upon so this was an education. I'm sure many here will agree but the older I get the more I like looking backwards and this was a joy to watch.
What a brilliant video. You have solved a mystery for me. As a young lad I went to school in Salford,I would take the train to exchange and walk down to Victoria bridge to catch a bus to Pendleton, Salford. I could see wooden staircases going from the side of the downwards to large wooden doors, never knew what they were? Entrances to the arches and air raid shelters!! Thanks for solving that mystery for me.
Aww fantastic, I'm glad I could solve a mystery for you, and thanks for sharing your recollection of the wooden staircases 😊. Glad you enjoyed my video 😊
As a Salford lad, I really enjoyed this video and have shared it with my family, as I think that they'll all find this of great interest, young and old.
1st time I've ever viewed anything on this channel and I'm wowed - this is undoubtedly the most professional and engaging YT film I've seen for ages! CONGRATULATIONS and kudos to you for such a production. Every weekend I & friend(s) walk for miles along canal AND old/former rail routes - I've done a few 'barge rides' too - but I'm glad I took the opportunities to "do" the MSC in BOTH directions (with end-points at "Central Basin" - ex-No.8 Dock - and Seacombe!). Sadly, Mersey Ferries only offer a truncated trip these days. . At 1'09" in your film, the beautiful "MSC M'cr Docks" plan shows (in red) 3 different connections to the latterday mainline railway companies: LNWR (in use) as well as 2 more proposed connections - 1 ea. to the L&YR and the MS&LR. I can confirm that these latter ones were also built and all 3 saw a significant volumes of traffic. . The Lancs & Yorks Rly's ('proposed') connection, just adjacent to Trafford Rd, had a small station called "Race St," obviously taking its name from the nearby de Trafford Racecourse. This station only served "works trains," however, carrying the dock complex's commuting workers. This 3rd line tunnelled beneath Salford/Ordsall, before joining the mainline ~75yds south of the present-day Salford Crescent station - I suspect that the old tunnel there might still get inspected under Ordsall's streets every couple of years.
@@keithtanner2806 aww that's awesome, I didn't know that. I regularly visit the 3 concrete barges that are near Lymm Golf Club on the old Mersey river course. Cheers 😊
That was absolutely brilliant ! I would defiantly be going back with some torches to do that tunnel under the station. Loved the way you matched all the old photos over the ages.. and as soon as i spotted something and thought what's that, you explained it. bloody brilliant! Happy paddling my good man and stay safe. Tom
I have only just seen this video now, but what a superb tour, which I thoroughly enjoyed! You can clearly see the amount of work and research that you must've put into this video! Brilliant! I'm going to check out the rest of your videos now, good luck with any upcoming videos. Thank you, and all the best. 🙂
Brilliant production. I really enjoyed the history along your journey. My Grandad worked on Pomona Docks and my Nana operated a crane at Albert's Shed during WW2. I would love to have a bash at that route. Thank you for capturing it all.
Gota give credit where it's due .. Fantastic mate ..loved it ..Narration , filming, information, presentation. All spot on .looking forward to watching the others .. Should be a show in TV This ..If I ever watch TV this is the type of thing I watch ..honestly brilliant mate
@@DermGNR You're very welcome, it's a great watch, very interesting & enjoyable. I've just bought a kayak & so watching some YT videos on where to go with it locally. I thought of the Manchester canals & your video came up. Do you know where I can get a map of all the Manchester & surrounding canals & rivers from? & how do I know which ones I'm allowed to Kayak? Or any links online? I'm based near Bury.
@@tman5634 for canals you best bet is the Nicholson Canal Guide books. Get the North West & Pennine one, it's about £15 on Amazon. As for rivers it's all down to your ability. Start small, like the upper River Weaver, great river, like the Ship Canal only a bit smaller, loads to see on it too, it's easy and a good starter. Then work your way to the Mersey in Stockport but it's a lot harder than it used to be as the portage points are not as well kept. Then there's the River Dee & a few others. Just make sure to always do your research, you don't want to get caught in fast current and a weir, that's no fun lol. So don't go out in high water, the faster it's flowing the less time you have to plan & act. I've never joined a club as I've been doing it solo since school, but a club is a good place to start & I believe Bury has some great water sports clubs to give you the best start if rivers are you goal 😊.
Absolutely fantastic and riveting adventure, and a well-researched and illustrated production. Congratulations and many thanks. Pete Kilvert. (Friends of Salford Cemeteries Trust).
Just brilliant. Used to have a canoe but no space now so I have a paddle board. Through my paddle board I’ve discovered a love of canals spilling over into canal history and architecture. This amazing video really ticks all of my boxes. You should have a 24 hour long episodes on the bbc!
I’m a bit late to the party but just seen this. What an excellent video, thank you for going to the trouble to make it and to properly and fully research your material.
Brilliant. I am in Manchester for a couple of days on a course. Staying on Salford Quays, kayak on the roof of the van. This video is just what I was looking for, a guide, complete with an amazing history narrative. Thank you, well filmed, good pace, very interesting.
What an excellent video. I was thinking an hour of canoeing across Manchester might be a bit much but this is a lovely informative and restful video. Thanks for making it!
The time worried me too but I just kept discovering more & more so I figured I'd mention as much as I could whilst keeping each section relatively brief. Thank you very much for your comment & I'm glad you enjoyed it, The next one is almost done so I look forward to releasing that soon :)
Manchester, River Irwell - yes please! Cheers from New York! I hope you are doing something you like in 2024, but I wanted to say great job on this video.
What a beautifully thought out and thoroughly detailed video...i started watching it thinking i would give you 15 mins tops!...i ended up opening google maps and followed every step ( or paddle) you took,i was hooked. Totally admire your attention to detail and all the hard work you have clearly undertook in your research,thank you kindly for not only entertaining me,but educating me to my old hometown and stomping grounds!..thank you.
Aww that's wonderful, thank you Mark and cheers for the amazing comment mate, much appreciated 😊 glad you enjoyed it. Hopefully I'll get round to realising the other 9 videos I filmed in 2020. I just can't seem to find the time to narrate them 🙄 Hopefully I'll get some time as I'm sure you'll enjoy those too 😊 Thank you once again 😊
Superb work Sir, very informative video, amazing how you've found all these old pictures and managed to link it all in. I'm not from the area, I'm from St Helens but have done a trip along the ship canal from Liverpool to Salford Quays a few times and I've always been very interested in Salford Quays and it's history. I love waterways I find them fascinating and how they all link in, find it amazing that the ship canal starts at the Mersey yet the river meets it again near Irlam.
Wow, what a fantastic video, I'm a manchester local and there was stuff even in didn't know. Great work, what a wonderful was to start my day. Thank you for all the effort you put into this.
Super video . Lived all my life in Manchester 72 years. Never New the full history of the rivers and canals of Manchester .Til I watched your video. Top class well done.
A remarkable video and commentary. Professional standard. Congratulations. I grew up in the area in the 1950s and 60s and still recognise some locations.
Thank you Paul, yes it did take a while, but I have 9 more films that I'm working on at the same time. I've just got sick of them being 90% done but the scripts are a killer to write lol. Hopefully my next will be up in a week or so 😊 thank you for your support & comment 😊
@@DermGNRcan I ask the make and model of your canoe? .....I currently have a tandem sot that I love for coastal paddling but I can't handle it by myself and it's less practical on the canals and rivers if I want to do a bit of a tour on my own 😢. Thanks in advance buddy
@@RevnedC mines a 12ft Snake River Canoe my friend, unfortunately they are no longer in production although there are 2 very similar companies making 12ft's like mine. One Is Apache Canoes from the Wirral near Liverpool and the other is Campbell Canoes which makes beautiful canoes with wonderful carpentry. Hope that helps mate 😊 check for 2nd hand ones too on FB marketplace and eBay 👍 a 12ft fiberglass is your best bet if you don't fancy an inflatable when it comes to ease of solo paddling.
Thanks very much......I just can't wait to find one. Been looking for a while but the longer canoes seem to be more popular. I even thought about having a try at a stitch and glue kit, but then the wife reminded me of my DIY skills 😂. Once again thank you so much for putting together such amazing content, and I hope you do eventually get some more posted soon. You could easily produce a documentary series for TV.
Wow! Only just discovered your videos. This was absolutely brilliant from every perspective, as stated over and again by previous commenters. Without doubt the best thing I've seen on RUclips, possibly ever! Thank you so much. I'm now subscribed in case you make some more.
Awww thank you so much for your kind words mate, means a lot 😊, I filmed another 9 videos in the summer of 2021 but simply became too busy to make them in to documentaries like this one... However I am in the process of buying a new laptop so hopefully I will eventually get round to producing some more 😊 Thank you once again 😊
Absolutely enjoyed your documentary. I wish some entrepreneur would start a business hiring small motor boats for pleasure trips up and down the river.
@@Jomo-x6n thanks Jomo, not long ago we had The Manchester Water Taxi from Salford Keys to the Mark Addy pub but sadly it literally lasted months and packed in. I never got to experience it unfortunately. There's talk of bringing it back but I've not heard much on it recently. You're right though you can hire personal motorboats in York and it's a similar river in size and flow to the Irwell. Maybe one day 🤞
Thank you Peow... 😊 That's the style I was going for, as a relaxing canoe trip 1st most, followed with interesting facts & photos 😊 Thank you for your comment and your support 😊
Absolutely fascinating. Thank you! Am a frequent visitor to segments of the river but on foot, so had no real idea of the extent of the links to other waterways, its journey or its history. I've learnt so much! Brilliant!
Came here from the Manchester Underground tour that is disappointingly "free" except for needing credit card details for unexplained reasons. They can go away with prejudice. So thanks for rescuing our Manchester history evening. Fascinating and really well put together. A trip to Salford keys is in order as soon as we can.
Aww thank you for watching & I'm glad you enjoyed it 😊 Yes I too was looking forward to their tour but it is looking a bit unusual demanding credit card details for absolutely no reason 🤔 thank you for your comment & your support 😊
Much appreciated very interesting. Living in Manchester I never knew there was unused canals. Very interesting greater Manchester history respect to you
Fantastic film ,brought back many memories for me as part of a a water incident unit in Manchester from early 90’s until a few years ago . Spent some dark and cold nights around all places filmed . It was so nice to see it in a different light with the history behind the areas filmed . Very informative and professional a credit to you and the work you have put in .keep up the good work as much appreciated. I still get out on rivers but now for my leisure and pastime ,will keep an eye out for your films👍
Thank you Geoff for your great comment, I used to do something similar so I know you must have some very interesting & some very sad stories. Thanks for watching & commenting, I really appreciate your support & I'm glad you like my film 😊
I've often thought about the route of the Irwell and how much there is of it. This has been a fascinating trip with someone who knows an enormous amount about it. I recently watched a video about the River Weaver by the same person so I knew it would be worth watching. Thanks very much and I'm looking forward to watching more in the future.
Hi Pamela, thank you very much, I hope to one day, I've actually filmed another 9 full videos in the summer of 2020 but I simply haven't had the time to narrate them yet. They are all edited & ready to go but just need scripts and a voice over adding. Hopefully I'll get some time & I'll be able to release them one day 🤞😊
@@DermGNR Thanks. I'm looking forward to those. Incidentally, my Dad also threw his medals away at the start of the 2nd world war during which he was a fire-watcher at Pommona Docks.
Very good video. I would call your boat a Kayak. In my younger days, a canoe was a covered boat with an opening for the occupant, who used a two-bladed paddle, while a kayak was an open boat, propelled by a single-bladed paddle. I bought a canoe with my first month's salary when I started work in 1965. Nowadays for some strange reason these definitions seem to have been reversed!
Hi Ken, I know what you mean, a lot of people get the two mixed up, all you need to remember is that the "Native American" and "Canadian" canoes are open, always have been, in order to transport cargo. Kayaks are the ones with small openings. Kayaks originally came from the Inuit population and due to rougher conditions they would just be a small covered craft usually with just one seat made with animal skin stretched over bones. If you Google differences between canoes & kayaks, you will see illustrations explaining the fact that open boats are canoes and kayak are in fact closed boats
@@DermGNR Yes, - I've seen it on Google and that's the way it seems to be nowadays but back in the day, the native American and Canadian open craft were definitely kayaks while the covered craft, (like mine) were canoes. I don't know why these have changed around but they have!
Coincidentally, i was looking at the old side by side maps last night, and was trying to work out where and how the Medlock ended. And then I randomly click on this vid that was recommended for me today, and it's all explained. Explain that atheists!
This should be broadcast on regional TV, superbly presented. This fascinating presentation threw light on many things that remained mysteries over decades.
Thank you very much Ian, glad you enjoyed it mate, cheers 👍
No more videos? How come?
Just found this brilliantly presented video. Shame you haven't done more. Well done.
Thank you, I actually filmed 9 more films in the summer of 2021 but sadly haven't had time to write a script for them even though they are already edited 🙄 Life just got very busy unfortunately 🙄 Still hopefully one day I'll finish the next one & post it 🤞😊🤞
Thank you so much. I'm a Salford lad. I never thought I would watch something like this. What an amazing journey. Schools in Salford/Manchester should show this video in history lessons. Never thought I would find the bridges i had travelled across so many times so interesting.
@@waynegoodall5128 thank you very much Wayne, glad you enjoyed it mate 🤟😁🤟
What can I say, thank you! What a beautiful, well researched video, should be mandatory viewing in every Architecture & Engineering School in the land.
Thank you very much Denis for your kind words 😊 Glad you enjoyed my film 😊
I cannot believe how well produced and interesting this is. As a many generations Salfordian/Mancunian I thought I knew a fair amount about the banks of the Orwell, but this has taken my knowledge to another level. I was going to just dip into this video, but watched to the end without a break. Everything about it was great: maps, highlighting of routes, old photographs, music, filming, commentary. It must have taken an age to edit. Honestly, this was as good as any broadcast documentary. Thank you.
Thank you very much merlini1 😊 I very much appreciate your comment & yes it took nearly a year to put together. I've actually finished editing the next one last year, but have still yet to write & narrate the script. Just not enough hours in the day. Hopefully I'll get some time soon though 😊 Thanks again 😊
A brilliant documentary. Excellently filmed and presented. As a born and bred Mancunian I'd like to thank you very much for bringing some of our industrial history to life.
@@niallmurray8654 thank you very much, glad you enjoyed my video 😊
@@DermGNR You're welcome and are you doing anymore ? In the spring or summer of course 🙂🏴
bloody hell what an excellent documentary. Better than so many broadcast documentaries !
@@nztv8589 thank you very much 😊 glad you enjoyed it 😊
Absolutely fantastic video! As a proud Manchester man this has to be the best historical video about Manchester . A lot of time and work has gone into the historical research, filming and editing, plus paddle power! Well done!
@@alandean6150 thank you very much Alan, really appreciate it mate 😊😊
Mate! What a brilliant piece of work. You should be really proud of this!!
Thank you very much Mike, cheers 😊
This is absolutely true. I can get pictures from my cousin of it. We went down the old Hulme locks on his narrowboat and we turned right and got as far as just the other side of Trinity bridge before we ran aground. Went back and had a drink in the Mark Addy pub. Love the video.
@@nigelblair2182 that's fantastic Nigel, thanks for sharing 😊😊
What a wonderfully murky, fascinating bit of history. Very fine indeed. John W. Australia
Aww thank you very much, can't believe my video has reached so far 😊 thanks for watching 😁
A Major amount of quality work has clearly gone into this history of Manchester from the River Irwel. I would go as far as saying this is my favourite historic video of Manchester. I loved the references and maps so much that it took me a good 2 hours to get through it. Very impressed, keep the videos coming! #manchesterhistory #riverirwell #history
Thank you so much for the awesome comment Mark, I really appreciate it mate. Glad you enjoyed my video & rest assured they'll be plenty more videos along in the future 👍😁
@@DermGNR il look forward to them for sure 👍
What a brilliant film - superbly researched, recorded and presented. Beats anything you see on the TV nowadays.
Thank you Ed, very much appreciated mate 😊
@@DermGNR you’re welcome.
I’m a ship’s pilot on the Manchester Ship Canal (since 2018) based at Eastham. I regularly take 5000 tonne ships as far as Weaste, and we swing just below the Mode Wheel locks. It was so interesting to see your video exploring the upper reaches though.
Ohh that's fantastic, I'd love to do that for a living. One of my grandfather's worked at the Salford Docks as a store keeper & about 20 years ago we were sent 2 tickets, free of charge, to take a trip on the Liverpool Ferry from Manchester to Liverpool. I can't remember much but the captain let me take the wheel when we were out in the estuary, an experience I will never forget 😄 I remember having to keep between the buoys & spent most of my time staring at the compass making sure I stayed on the numbers he called out 😅 I absolutely loved it. I think I'll book on the next ferry cruise, should they return to normal at some point in the future 😁 Until then if you've ever got room for a wee one let me know mate 👍😁
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We used to be able to take the odd person on board with permission from Peel Ports who own the Canal, but since the lockdown bollocks all that has been stopped unfortunately. We can’t even take potential trainee pilots on board at the moment, it really is ridiculous. I don’t blame Peel, but more the nonsense being inflicted on us by the government. We’ve been fortunate at least that our trade on the Canal has held up well over the last year though. The vast majority of it is to Ellesmere Port, Stanlow and Runcorn nowadays.
Ohh I totally understand but you never know, if they ever revert back once the world starts spinning again, it would be an absolute pleasure to join you guys for a trip so please keep me in mind 😁. But never the less it's a pleasure to make you acquaintance mate 👍😁 & thank you very much for enjoying my video. I currently have about another 9 videos (all filmed in 2020) that I'm working on 😅 the next one should be out soon though 😊
I grew up ( born 1958 ) next to the Canal. ( Chester Road Swing Bridge )
and i can remember watching the Manchester Liners going through the Swing Bridge. They might be small in today's standards, but back in the day, they looked huge. For the last 20 years, I've lived quite close to 'Latchford Locks', which is not as busy nowadays , sadly. New Subscriber here, and thanks for sharing this video.
@@GregPodster133 that's fantastic, thanks for sharing your memories of the Liners mate & thanks for watching & enjoying my video 😊👍
What an enjoyable video, this has inspired me more than ever to revisit my long absence from canoeing in 2025. You can see so much more from the water and I can only hope my paddling skills get half as good as yours! 👍
@@dieselmanmike thank you very much Mike, I too would like to get back to my canoeing, I've barely been out over the last 2 years and I really miss it. Here's to an adventurous 2025 😊👍
Thanks for the trip bro excellent to see Salford from this angle
Really great! Fantastic film.Lots of historical fact and a beautiful blue sky day in Manchester 🏖
Cheers mate, glad you enjoyed it & yes a less a spotted Mancunian blue sky 😅
What a great video, thank you for your time and research. I have to admit I wasn't aware of all the waterways that Manchester and Salford sit upon so this was an education. I'm sure many here will agree but the older I get the more I like looking backwards and this was a joy to watch.
@@chriswray403 cheers Chris, I couldn't agree more 😊
What a brilliant video. You have solved a mystery for me. As a young lad I went to school in Salford,I would take the train to exchange and walk down to Victoria bridge to catch a bus to Pendleton, Salford. I could see wooden staircases going from the side of the downwards to large wooden doors, never knew what they were? Entrances to the arches and air raid shelters!! Thanks for solving that mystery for me.
Aww fantastic, I'm glad I could solve a mystery for you, and thanks for sharing your recollection of the wooden staircases 😊. Glad you enjoyed my video 😊
As a Salford lad, I really enjoyed this video and have shared it with my family, as I think that they'll all find this of great interest, young and old.
Thank you very much for your comment & thank you for sharing 😊
1st time I've ever viewed anything on this channel and I'm wowed - this is undoubtedly the most professional and engaging YT film I've seen for ages! CONGRATULATIONS and kudos to you for such a production. Every weekend I & friend(s) walk for miles along canal AND old/former rail routes - I've done a few 'barge rides' too - but I'm glad I took the opportunities to "do" the MSC in BOTH directions (with end-points at "Central Basin" - ex-No.8 Dock - and Seacombe!). Sadly, Mersey Ferries only offer a truncated trip these days.
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At 1'09" in your film, the beautiful "MSC M'cr Docks" plan shows (in red) 3 different connections to the latterday mainline railway companies: LNWR (in use) as well as 2 more proposed connections - 1 ea. to the L&YR and the MS&LR. I can confirm that these latter ones were also built and all 3 saw a significant volumes of traffic.
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The Lancs & Yorks Rly's ('proposed') connection, just adjacent to Trafford Rd, had a small station called "Race St," obviously taking its name from the nearby de Trafford Racecourse.
This station only served "works trains," however, carrying the dock complex's commuting workers. This 3rd line tunnelled beneath Salford/Ordsall, before joining the mainline ~75yds south of the present-day Salford Crescent station - I suspect that the old tunnel there might still get inspected under Ordsall's streets every couple of years.
Only just seen this video. Absolutely brilliant. Thank you.
An amazing video with so much information and detail. A huge thank you.
@@callum7797able thank you 😊
Superb video.
Well researched with an excellent commentary.😚👏👏👏
Docks 2and 4 were largely filled with redundant scuttled barges built from concrete.
@@keithtanner2806 aww that's awesome, I didn't know that. I regularly visit the 3 concrete barges that are near Lymm Golf Club on the old Mersey river course. Cheers 😊
That was absolutely brilliant ! I would defiantly be going back with some torches to do that tunnel under the station. Loved the way you matched all the old photos over the ages.. and as soon as i spotted something and thought what's that, you explained it. bloody brilliant! Happy paddling my good man and stay safe. Tom
Thank you very much Tom, I really appreciate your comment 😊 glad you enjoyed it mate 😁
I have only just seen this video now, but what a superb tour, which I thoroughly enjoyed! You can clearly see the amount of work and research that you must've put into this video! Brilliant! I'm going to check out the rest of your videos now, good luck with any upcoming videos. Thank you, and all the best. 🙂
Thank you very much for watching mate & cheers for your great comment 😁😁
Fascinating and a very enjoyable watch. Thank you.
Brilliant production. I really enjoyed the history along your journey. My Grandad worked on Pomona Docks and my Nana operated a crane at Albert's Shed during WW2. I would love to have a bash at that route. Thank you for capturing it all.
@@Kippax237 wow that's awesome, thanks for sharing mate 😊😊
Gota give credit where it's due .. Fantastic mate ..loved it ..Narration , filming, information, presentation. All spot on .looking forward to watching the others .. Should be a show in TV This ..If I ever watch TV this is the type of thing I watch ..honestly brilliant mate
Thank you very much Nina, glad you enjoyed it 😁😁
Absolutely fantastic, your time, patience & knowledge is very much appreciated.
Thank you very much mate 😊
@@DermGNR
You're very welcome, it's a great watch, very interesting & enjoyable.
I've just bought a kayak & so watching some YT videos on where to go with it locally. I thought of the Manchester canals & your video came up.
Do you know where I can get a map of all the Manchester & surrounding canals & rivers from? & how do I know which ones I'm allowed to Kayak? Or any links online?
I'm based near Bury.
@@tman5634 for canals you best bet is the Nicholson Canal Guide books. Get the North West & Pennine one, it's about £15 on Amazon. As for rivers it's all down to your ability. Start small, like the upper River Weaver, great river, like the Ship Canal only a bit smaller, loads to see on it too, it's easy and a good starter. Then work your way to the Mersey in Stockport but it's a lot harder than it used to be as the portage points are not as well kept. Then there's the River Dee & a few others. Just make sure to always do your research, you don't want to get caught in fast current and a weir, that's no fun lol. So don't go out in high water, the faster it's flowing the less time you have to plan & act. I've never joined a club as I've been doing it solo since school, but a club is a good place to start & I believe Bury has some great water sports clubs to give you the best start if rivers are you goal 😊.
Absolutely fantastic and riveting adventure, and a well-researched and illustrated production. Congratulations and many thanks. Pete Kilvert. (Friends of Salford Cemeteries Trust).
Thank you Peter, glad you liked it and thank you for your lovely comment 😊
Just brilliant. Used to have a canoe but no space now so I have a paddle board. Through my paddle board I’ve discovered a love of canals spilling over into canal history and architecture. This amazing video really ticks all of my boxes. You should have a 24 hour long episodes on the bbc!
This is absolutely fantastic! Puts Martin Zero to shame! Thankyou!
Thank you very much mate, glad you enjoyed it 😁😁
Fascinating story of our cities river.
I’m a bit late to the party but just seen this. What an excellent video, thank you for going to the trouble to make it and to properly and fully research your material.
Thank you very much 😁 glad you enjoyed it 😊😊
Great video showing interesting things that people only usually see from street level. Best video of this area that I have ever seen
@@LindaKeith-w6i thank you very much, glad you liked it 😊
Fascinating thank you
Brilliant! Thank you!
@@Victor-r2b5t you're welcome 😊
Thank you so much for this documentary.
You're welcome David, thank you for commenting 😊
Amazing video. I live in Eccles now but have worked in parts of Trafford, youve taught me a thing or two about the industrial heritage I never knew.
@@jonnyevason2219 cheers mate, glad you enjoyed it 😊
Absolute quality video, hugely well done, glad to have discovered this.
@@nikwood-jones1825 thank you very much for watching 😊😊
A great piece of work thank you.
Brilliant. I am in Manchester for a couple of days on a course. Staying on Salford Quays, kayak on the roof of the van. This video is just what I was looking for, a guide, complete with an amazing history narrative. Thank you, well filmed, good pace, very interesting.
Thank you very much Dominic, have a great time my friend 🤟😁🤟
@@DermGNR Can you recommend any launching spots around Salford Quays?
@@dominicpartridge6075 there's a free launch pontoon next to Salford watersports centre 😊👍
@@DermGNR brilliant, thanks again, well produced video. Subscribed now so looking forward to more of your exploring. I love exploring by kayak
What an excellent video. I was thinking an hour of canoeing across Manchester might be a bit much but this is a lovely informative and restful video. Thanks for making it!
The time worried me too but I just kept discovering more & more so I figured I'd mention as much as I could whilst keeping each section relatively brief. Thank you very much for your comment & I'm glad you enjoyed it, The next one is almost done so I look forward to releasing that soon :)
@@DermGNR the length is fine, truly! Loved every minute of it.
Manchester, River Irwell - yes please! Cheers from New York! I hope you are doing something you like in 2024, but I wanted to say great job on this video.
Thank you very much mate, really appreciate it 😊 glad you liked it 🤟
Brilliant video, nice meeting and speaking too you today while you were on the Mersey at Woolston.
Thanks very much. It was a pleasure to meet you too mate & thanks for watching & commenting on my video 😊
What a beautifully thought out and thoroughly detailed video...i started watching it thinking i would give you 15 mins tops!...i ended up opening google maps and followed every step ( or paddle) you took,i was hooked.
Totally admire your attention to detail and all the hard work you have clearly undertook in your research,thank you kindly for not only entertaining me,but educating me to my old hometown and stomping grounds!..thank you.
Aww that's wonderful, thank you Mark and cheers for the amazing comment mate, much appreciated 😊 glad you enjoyed it. Hopefully I'll get round to realising the other 9 videos I filmed in 2020. I just can't seem to find the time to narrate them 🙄 Hopefully I'll get some time as I'm sure you'll enjoy those too 😊 Thank you once again 😊
Superb work Sir, very informative video, amazing how you've found all these old pictures and managed to link it all in. I'm not from the area, I'm from St Helens but have done a trip along the ship canal from Liverpool to Salford Quays a few times and I've always been very interested in Salford Quays and it's history. I love waterways I find them fascinating and how they all link in, find it amazing that the ship canal starts at the Mersey yet the river meets it again near Irlam.
Very interesting.
Wow, what a fantastic video, I'm a manchester local and there was stuff even in didn't know. Great work, what a wonderful was to start my day. Thank you for all the effort you put into this.
@@mancdave123 aww that's awesome mate, thank you for watching my vid, glad you enjoyed it 😁
The info alone deserves a sub, awesome vid! Saw the Barton bridge go up last month, not seen that for decades... :P
@@j3fr0uk thank you very much 😊🤟
Super video . Lived all my life in Manchester 72 years. Never New the full history of the rivers and canals of Manchester .Til I watched your video. Top class well done.
Brilliant loved it , many thank ,enjoyed it from start to finish .very well explained.👍
@@jeffbennett4533 thank you mate 😊🤟
Some awesome memories brought back here, thank you so much.
@@MrOldways thank you mate, glad you enjoyed it 😊
A remarkable video and commentary. Professional standard. Congratulations. I grew up in the area in the 1950s and 60s and still recognise some locations.
Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed it, I would have loved to have canoed the River in the 50's & 60's 😁
fantastic video, I was hooked from start to finish. thank you
Thanks Tony, glad you liked it mate 😁👍
@@DermGNR Amazing video mate. Thank you
Fascinating view of the city and a excellent story 👏👏
Fantastic video! So much effort and great illustrations of how it used to be. Thanks for uploading for us all
Thank you very much, glad you liked it 😊😊😊
This excellent. Well researched and presented
@@DJDaveWhicker thank you 😊😊
Fascinating video. I can't imagine how long it took to research and produce this video. Well done!
Thank you Paul, yes it did take a while, but I have 9 more films that I'm working on at the same time. I've just got sick of them being 90% done but the scripts are a killer to write lol. Hopefully my next will be up in a week or so 😊 thank you for your support & comment 😊
👏👏👏👏 Weldone, a brave thing to do!..
@@MontyDodge thank you mate 🤟
Well done. I am in Eccles. See how far up the ship canal you can get. 👍
Brilliant mate!
An excellent video.
Fantastic film, great work, thanks a lot.
Thank you so much. This is excellently done and really interesting.
Thanks Wayne, I appreciate it mate, cheers 😊
Spot on my friend 👌 right up.my street.
Absolutely amazing content
Thanks very much mate 😁
@@DermGNRcan I ask the make and model of your canoe? .....I currently have a tandem sot that I love for coastal paddling but I can't handle it by myself and it's less practical on the canals and rivers if I want to do a bit of a tour on my own 😢.
Thanks in advance buddy
@@RevnedC mines a 12ft Snake River Canoe my friend, unfortunately they are no longer in production although there are 2 very similar companies making 12ft's like mine. One Is Apache Canoes from the Wirral near Liverpool and the other is Campbell Canoes which makes beautiful canoes with wonderful carpentry. Hope that helps mate 😊 check for 2nd hand ones too on FB marketplace and eBay 👍 a 12ft fiberglass is your best bet if you don't fancy an inflatable when it comes to ease of solo paddling.
Thanks very much......I just can't wait to find one. Been looking for a while but the longer canoes seem to be more popular. I even thought about having a try at a stitch and glue kit, but then the wife reminded me of my DIY skills 😂.
Once again thank you so much for putting together such amazing content, and I hope you do eventually get some more posted soon. You could easily produce a documentary series for TV.
@@RevnedC aww thank you very much mate, very nice of you to say 😁😁
Its amazing what you can find when you get out of a car.
This is fantastic! Thank you for putting this together. Very interesting and brilliant execution. 👏🏽
Thank you very much, I'm glad you enjoyed it 😊
Very very good video. Well made and v interesting. Thank you! Can't help wondering about those war medals now...
@@clogtv cheers 😊 thank you so much for watching & wondering 😉
Wow! Only just discovered your videos. This was absolutely brilliant from every perspective, as stated over and again by previous commenters. Without doubt the best thing I've seen on RUclips, possibly ever! Thank you so much. I'm now subscribed in case you make some more.
Awww thank you so much for your kind words mate, means a lot 😊, I filmed another 9 videos in the summer of 2021 but simply became too busy to make them in to documentaries like this one... However I am in the process of buying a new laptop so hopefully I will eventually get round to producing some more 😊 Thank you once again 😊
That was brilliant. Really interesting.
Thank you so much. This us excellent and really interesting.
Hi really enjoyed this. I used to have a narrow boat and I am also into old buildings, towns. We put together ❤️
Thank you very much Steve 😊
Fantastic job
Well researched.
Really enjoyable watching that it was. Thanks millions.
Excellent. Thanks
Very good viewing the information is excellent
Awesome video
It’s all been said. Brilliant and informative.
Thank you very much John 😁
Absolutely enjoyed your documentary. I wish some entrepreneur would start a business hiring small motor boats for pleasure trips up and down the river.
@@Jomo-x6n thanks Jomo, not long ago we had The Manchester Water Taxi from Salford Keys to the Mark Addy pub but sadly it literally lasted months and packed in. I never got to experience it unfortunately. There's talk of bringing it back but I've not heard much on it recently. You're right though you can hire personal motorboats in York and it's a similar river in size and flow to the Irwell. Maybe one day 🤞
@@DermGNR Cool. I'll have a word with Mr Branson about the pleasure motor boat hire venture😛.
What a great video, you have a really nice presenting style and I love the slow pace.
Thank you Peow... 😊 That's the style I was going for, as a relaxing canoe trip 1st most, followed with interesting facts & photos 😊 Thank you for your comment and your support 😊
Absolutely terrific!! Very well produced with tons of interesting content. Thoroughly enjoyed that, many thanks for the work and thanks for sharing.
Thank you very much Alan, glad you enjoyed it & thanks for your great comment 😊👍
Absolutely fascinating. Thank you! Am a frequent visitor to segments of the river but on foot, so had no real idea of the extent of the links to other waterways, its journey or its history. I've learnt so much! Brilliant!
Thank you very much Chickadee, I'm really glad you enjoyed it & thanks for your awesome comment 😊
Very professional.
Thank you very much Malcolm 😊
WAW absolutely loved this brilliant, and so interesting ,learned so much about my home city , thankyou
Thanks very much for watching, glad you enjoyed it 😊👍
Love this 😀
Thank you 😊😊
I miss sitting outside the Mark Addy next to the river with a nice pint of Guinness
What a trip down memory lane, great video and insight 👏 hope to see more
thank you very much mate :)
Came here from the Manchester Underground tour that is disappointingly "free" except for needing credit card details for unexplained reasons. They can go away with prejudice.
So thanks for rescuing our Manchester history evening. Fascinating and really well put together. A trip to Salford keys is in order as soon as we can.
Aww thank you for watching & I'm glad you enjoyed it 😊 Yes I too was looking forward to their tour but it is looking a bit unusual demanding credit card details for absolutely no reason 🤔 thank you for your comment & your support 😊
What a brilliant video!
Much appreciated very interesting. Living in Manchester I never knew there was unused canals. Very interesting greater Manchester history respect to you
Thanks Joe, glad you enjoyed it mate 👍
Fantastic film ,brought back many memories for me as part of a a water incident unit in Manchester from early 90’s until a few years ago . Spent some dark and cold nights around all places filmed . It was so nice to see it in a different light with the history behind the areas filmed . Very informative and professional a credit to you and the work you have put in .keep up the good work as much appreciated.
I still get out on rivers but now for my leisure and pastime ,will keep an eye out for your films👍
Thank you Geoff for your great comment, I used to do something similar so I know you must have some very interesting & some very sad stories. Thanks for watching & commenting, I really appreciate your support & I'm glad you like my film 😊
Kayaked part of river Eden last year . I think you would do a great job of filming from a canoe as mostly quite sedate and some fantastic scenery
@@geofff3862 ohhh brilliant I'll look into it, thank you for the recommendation 😊
Brilliant video, I'd love to do that one day
@@Redandy1960 thank you mate 😊👍
I've often thought about the route of the Irwell and how much there is of it. This has been a fascinating trip with someone who knows an enormous amount about it. I recently watched a video about the River Weaver by the same person so I knew it would be worth watching. Thanks very much and I'm looking forward to watching more in the future.
Thank you very much Lynda for your lovely comment & thank you for your support :D
Great watch thanks and very informative
Fabulous film. Very informative. Will you be doing the rest of the river?
Hi Pamela, thank you very much, I hope to one day, I've actually filmed another 9 full videos in the summer of 2020 but I simply haven't had the time to narrate them yet. They are all edited & ready to go but just need scripts and a voice over adding. Hopefully I'll get some time & I'll be able to release them one day 🤞😊
@@DermGNR Thanks. I'm looking forward to those. Incidentally, my Dad also threw his medals away at the start of the 2nd world war during which he was a fire-watcher at Pommona Docks.
@@pamelajohnson8772 wow that's interesting, I guess a lot of men did. Its such a shame really that so many felt so let down by their country.
Very good video. I would call your boat a Kayak. In my younger days, a canoe was a covered boat with an opening for the occupant, who used a two-bladed paddle, while a kayak was an open boat, propelled by a single-bladed paddle. I bought a canoe with my first month's salary when I started work in 1965. Nowadays for some strange reason these definitions seem to have been reversed!
Hi Ken, I know what you mean, a lot of people get the two mixed up, all you need to remember is that the "Native American" and "Canadian" canoes are open, always have been, in order to transport cargo. Kayaks are the ones with small openings. Kayaks originally came from the Inuit population and due to rougher conditions they would just be a small covered craft usually with just one seat made with animal skin stretched over bones. If you Google differences between canoes & kayaks, you will see illustrations explaining the fact that open boats are canoes and kayak are in fact closed boats
@@DermGNR Yes, - I've seen it on Google and that's the way it seems to be nowadays but back in the day, the native American and Canadian open craft were definitely kayaks while the covered craft, (like mine) were canoes. I don't know why these have changed around but they have!
Cool 👍
Coincidentally, i was looking at the old side by side maps last night, and was trying to work out where and how the Medlock ended. And then I randomly click on this vid that was recommended for me today, and it's all explained. Explain that atheists!
@@mana3735 haha fantastic, I'm glad my video helped you find the answer you were looking for 😁
@@DermGNR cheers, bud. i live upstream near Kersal Wetlands.
i am impressed.well done