He was more sympathetic on one occasion. During the Axis storyline, he had his personality inverted temporarily towards the end. He actually, earnestly had asked Captain America to forgive him, even calling him, "Steve". I guess he seemed so sympathetic because with his rage and hatred taken from him, he was just a tired old man who temporarily wanted to redeem himself in a small way.
That was mainly because all the villains of the story were turned good and reverted back to their old selves by the end including Skull. I’d also like to point out that that was a clone of Red Skull and not really the genuine article.
@@goblintributemaker2539 I agree that it was the inversion that caused it but it was still probably the only truly sympathetic moment in which he will ever be viewed. And clone or not, he still felt remorse.
@@redjirachi1 Well, from what I remember from Lee's Cap run, he was raised by Adolf Hitler, so it's understandable that he would end up the way he did.
You are absolutely right Mr Rogues. Red Skull does have a unique and special relationship with Captain America. The same type of relationship that Batman and the Joker have. But the difference is that Joker is a mass murdering clown just to satisfy his sense of humour, Red Skull has the desire to remake the world under Hydra's rule at the cost of people's lives. Joker(psychopath) Red Skull (megalomaniac). By the way, I actually had a feeling you would do the top 5 stories. Nice job.
My Top 5 Red Skull Stories: 5. The 1969 Cosmic Cube storyline that introduced the Falcon 4. The storyline from the 1980s where Arnim Zola had cloned the Red Skull a body that looked exactly like Steve Rogers and Rogers went back to being Captain America after his stint as the Captain. (I was disappointed when the Skull got dust in his face and he physically became the Red Skull again.) 3. The original Cosmic Cube story from Tales of Suspense 2. Operation: Rebirth (if for no other reason that Waid and Garney were such a breath of fresh air after Rik Levins' artwork) 1. "Red Dust" by Geoff Johns and Olivier Coipel (from The Avengers). I think I prefer the Red Skull as a power broker manipulating from behind the scenes. I also liked the distrust between Iron Man and the Black Panther.
1:10 - N°5 - Cap's back 3:45 - N°4 - Operation rebirth 6:05 - N°3 - Red skull vs magneto 8:05 - N°2 - Red glare 10:10 - N°1 - The death of the red skull
I'm happy to say that I have read all of these stories and I'm even more happy to see you do a type of list like this for a Marvel villain. I hope this is the first of many.
Great list!!! In the past, I was never a huge Skull fan, but I have been thinking about tracking down a few skull stories, but it has not been easy. Now, thanks to you, I have some new comics to add to my list. Thanks again Rogues. P.S. if it's not too much trouble, could you make a top 5 best stories video for Ultron? He is one of my favourite marvel rogues.
Awesome, always glad to help out! As for Ultron, I really haven't read much with him, so at the moment that's not possible; BUT I have been wanting to read up on him for a while now. If I end up doing that, I will very likely make a video.
In a Marvel and DC crossover comic called Batman and Captain America published in 1996 Joker teams up with Red Skull but he turned against him when he found out that he was a Nazi that's even Joker hates Nazis!
Once again I never say your #5 and 4, but I have seen the top three. I don't have all the issues of your #2. But I definatly have to agree with your #1. And Congrats on the 10 k by the way.
Awesome !!! Really enjoyed this new video. I've always liked The Red Skull and I never had that much interest in Captain America.Just wanted to say I finished the Batman: The Court of Owls Saga and I think you would do a great job analyzing The Court of Owls along with the Mysterious Talon and Talon warriors. Just something for you to think about. Its great story so maybe you could review that. Hope you have a nice day Mr.Rogues.
8:00 The difference is Magneto is a well intentioned extremist villain who does what he feels he has to do to protect mutants from mutant hating humans whereas the Skull is selfish and only out for himself.
Here is an honourable mention: The Uncanny Avengers (volume 3) issues 18-22. A clone of the Red Skull has teleoathic powers, courtesy of a piece of Charles Xavier's brain. With these powers, Skull takes down each member of uncanny avengers. Yes, the skull in the story is a clone, who still believes in the Nazi regime, but he is just as scary and evil as the original. The things he dies to the team is truly sickening and depraved. A very good Skull story. I highly reccomend it.
The story I was talking about take a place after Axis. And yes, Skull did look very cool in the onslaught armour. Axis was just another stupid event comics, but the effective would last for a while, such as Sabretooth becoming a hero. If they wanted a heroic Sabretooth, why not just use the AOA version? A story with both good and evil creed Sabretooths would gave been fun to read
That's ok. I have not read the first uncanny avengers story, but there is one thing I do not like about it. They killed off avalanche. Waste of a good x men villain.
@@tayojones9460 Axis basicly ruin marvel universe with their retcon of Magneto no longer father of the Maximoff. It praticlly said, " We don't care of the comics anymore, now it's only the movie who get attention", and for a long time it was the case. Thankfully thank to Cebulski the comics get better and Sony prove you don't need to copy the MCU to be successfull, but it seems that marketting departement at Disney still don't get that.
That would serve my purpose nicely! I'm a huge DC enthusiast, always have been, and sadly that never really left any place for Marvel; so I'm ignorant about even some of the most basic stuff... except for the Punisher (Garth Ennis' run is my favorite one) and Quicksilver. And since Zemo is the main villain of the current Punisher arc (the only DC title that I currently buy), that really got me curious about the guy. The "Civil War" movie (that I still enjoyed) hadn't really done a good job introducing the character to me...
You know how I like your vids.I wish you grow them as much as possible. Try connect with other Comic-Centric channels. We are in a time where people ignore the stories. Edit: believe in your work.
Hey, I was wondering if any of you guys could help with this. When I was a little kid, I once found this Marvel history book for kids. It's mostly accurate, but during the early history of the Avengers, it talks about some big team up between Dr Doom, Loki, Magneto and Red Skull where they called themselves "The Movers", and did battle with the Avengers. I know they collaborated with The Mandarin, The Wizard and The Kingpin during Acts of Vengeance where, according to Comic Vine, they went by the name "Prime Movers", but this supposedly takes place long before that. As far as I'm aware, this story doesn't exist and no team has ever called themselves "The Movers". Let me know if I'm wrong about this.
Two things about the Red Skull: The dust of Death used in the Englehart story actually first appeared way back in the Skull's third appearance in Captain America Comics #7 in autumn 1941. It was used only sparingly. The Red Skull story in your second spot was ultimately the reason Mark Waid left the title. The editorial at Marvel at the time thought the story of the fake imaginary world and the depiction of the Skull's origin to be too hardcore and had the script severely edited, which annoyed Waid. The unedited version of the script is floating around online if you're curious.
I liked the Captain America and Batman crossover, with the highlight being the scene when the Joker stops working with Red Skull and fights with him once he learns Red Skull Is a nazi.
Not to mention the rather humorous moment when Joker and Red Skull attack each other with Joker Venom and Dust of Death, only to find out both are immune to each others respective toxin.
For me tbh the Nazi part. Maybe it is becauce i'm german, but seriously... basicly almost EVERY friking german villain is either a Nazi or asosiated with it... Here it make sense of course but sometimes it realy feels like the writers where to lazy to think of something new or creative and simply overuse the nazi trope...
I wrote up a comment earlier, and apparently it didn't submit. Huh. Well, time to retype... My Top four are the same as your top four. HOWEVER, I'd actually name Magneto vs. Red Skull as my second favorite, with Red Glare at third, and Operation Rebirth at fourth place. (The Death of Red Skull is undeniably his greatest outing.) I haven't read your fifth place choice, but - presuming we're going with "mainstream" stories only, as usual - I'd give my fifth place to Captain America: Reborn. I am glad you love Red Skull so much; I sometimes feel that, of all the Marvel "Big Bads," he's the least appreciated. I should really see about doing a list of My Favorite Portrayals of Red Skull sometime...but the problem is, when it comes to other media, I like a lot of his portrayals more or less the same. :P
Yeah, I definately agree that Red Skull appears to be underappreciated; this video aint getting near enough as many views as I assumed it would get, haha... it's not doing BAD, but I had so much higher hopes for it. Anyway, as for other media, I can't say I'm that well versed with the character; at the top of my head I can only remember the Hugo Weaving movie. I thought Skull was far too tame in that movie btw. You didn't get the feeling he was a nazi at all in that movie, just another generic super villain; HOWEVER I haven't seen the film since it came out, so my memory might be incorrect. What are your thoughts on that portrayal?
I feel like Red Skull is underappreciated precisely because he doesn't really have any truly awesome portrayals in media like the other big Marvel villains such as Magneto, Doctor Doom, Green Goblin, and Kingpin do. Best version of him is probably the one in the Avengers EMH cartoon and the version in the Avengers Assemble cartoon is pretty decent too. Then of course there's the movie version which I personally enjoy but I completely agree that he was far too tame. It was stupid for the MCU to make him more kid-friendly by making it so that he wasn't really a Nazi and just another supervillain who wanted to take over the world. And these three versions of him that I mentioned completely pale in comparison to the comics version. The problem seems to be that other media always makes him too tame. They always associate him with Hydra instead of the Nazis for some reason and they never make him genocidal. This is probably why people think he's a generic villain which is a shame.
The reason for the tame versions of skull outside of media is because the people adapting him do not want children to associate him with Nazis. Disney especially does not want to look like they are promoting a Nazi as a supervillain. I find this very ironic, especially considering early Disney animation depicted Donald working in a Nazi weapons factory. That said, it is rather annoying that skull has to be nurtured to appeal to the bloody mainstream. If they wanted to, they could have made Skull as dark as his comic book version, without mentioning Hitler at all. Skull grew out of the Nazi mone anyway and was still a monster. Only version of skull outside of comics thst comes close to the comics is The version from EMH. His design, his voice (Thank You Steven Blum) and his actions were pure evil. Sadly, with Disney catering to bloody gender politics and "family friendly" entertainment, we may not see a truly dark portrayal of the Skull anytime soon.
@@tayojones9460 That's actually another aspect of the comics version of Skull I love, the fact that he was able to adapt to modern times and eventually even use capitalism as his weapon instead of Nazism. Yes, the Avengers EMH version of him was pretty great and Steve Blum gave an epic performance as him but I felt that he was really underused in the show. Plus, even that version of him was associated with Hydra instead of the Nazis. I really hate it how now almost every Captain America villain ever is a member of Hydra whether it be Red Skull, Baron Zemo, Armin Zola, or Crossbones. It should really just be Madame Viper and Baron Strucker. And yes thanks to Disney there's no way we'll get a completely genocidal Red Skull for a long time. Although I will say I actually rather like Avengers Assemble's version of Skull especially since they gave him such a huge role in the show's first season. That was something I would never expect Disney to do.
Poor Strucker. Once leader of Hydra, now portrayed as a weak low ranking member in MCU media. Red skull was handled pretty well in AA (even though I do not like that cartoon).
I'm surprised there aren't more Nazi themed villains in comics. There's skull and Kronen from Hellboy as far as I know. Using real world evil, if done right can magnify the terror and dread those ideologies bring and make the hero more heroic in return. Though again it does take more effort than a wholly original villain considering the context but still.
Ya can't go wrong with Nazis if your looking for a bastard type villain. Do a video on the Elementals from Comico. I used to have a couple of issues of them and the Justice Machine, I thought they'd be good for forgotten heroes.
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Mr rogues I have a patient file, what do you think? Patient #51719 Real name Jarvis Tech also called the Wizard of OZ by the staff. By the way anyone who calls him that shall be punished because based on examination it would seem the more often you refer to him as The Wizard of OZ his obsession seems to grow more vastly. In all honesty he is the definition of ludicrous and see no reason why he should be released, poor fella. Once upon a time Jarvis was the child of two drunk parents who would constantly leave him confined in a torture room hidden in Jarvis’ room. This horror had started when he was just a newborn. He would spend sleepless nights in the room and the only thing that made him happy were books, this liking for the books had been the only thing he loved and cared for in his entire childhood. He grabbed hold of every book he could find recovers from the very few minutes he had to seeing the streets and library. All the books seem to bore him except for “The Wizard of Oz”. He was a talented engineer, in fact it ran through the whole family, hence the name of the family. He vowed to one day run away by using his wits and talents. The one thing that encouraged him to follow this goal was “The Wizard of Oz”. The book was more than a mere book to the boy in fact it was his moral compass. By the age of fifteen he completed a device made from parts he scavenged ever since he was a boy. The device was a bomb, he planned to light it in his parents room, which would kill them. The reason for this rather than reporting to the police cause he never knew the existence of authority and believed it to be a thing of fiction and instead of running away without the murder was because he believed his parents to be powerful demons and could not escape their reach. On that faithful night the plan fell into place. The house specifically his parents room was engulfed in flames killing the two. He ran off hoping to find an “Emerald City” were he could live happily in. As the years rolled by Years after he fled he became more aware of the world he lived in and even learned how smell, write, and etc. He lived in a portable toilet located in a junkyard. Despite that he seemed to believe it to be an “Emerald City”. He had a job as an electrical worker though not a successful one. One day as he was returning home he saw a kid in the same position he was in as a child. He stalked the boy and his family seeing them just as he viewed his parental units, pure evil demons who enjoyed torture. He broke into the house to liberate the child, the mother found the skinny man dressed in a dark green coat with a green top hat, a worn out blue T-shirt, rugged pants, and a green glowing mask on his face. He was getting the child out of the torture room and taking him away. A fight broke out, Jarvis didn’t know how to fight but he knew how to kill, he took a belt and tied it around her neck. He attached it to the wall and pushed out of the window causing her to be hanged. The boy he was rescuing smiled in pure happiness seeing his own mother finally meet her end. He took the boy to his new home, he forged it with the scraps of metal and broken cars. He asked the boy his name but he didn’t know it, likely due to the trauma his mother put him through. He saw the “Scarecrow” in him and therefore made him his partner to free children from abusive parents no matter who gets killed. Jarvis has absolutely no idea how precious life is and because of this kills without a second thought. Though he makes an exception for his army of deranged children dressed up like the characters from the wizard of Oz. If only his parents weren’t so cruel to him he might have used his abilities for the greater good. Nonetheless he is very homicidal and takes great pleasure in it, one time he killed one hundreds and eighty people in one night. What he does isn’t for mere revenge its just to make sure that no child will have to face the same piece of hell he experienced at a very young age. Though his goal is very noble his methods are very gory and he doesn’t seem to think they’re wrong.
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Mr. Rogues What did you think about the editing of my story ?
Thanks! I probably will at some point... later down the line...
Mr. Rogues Thank you ^^
Mr. Rogues what about red skull incarnate i recommend to you
He was more sympathetic on one occasion.
During the Axis storyline, he had his personality inverted temporarily towards the end. He actually, earnestly had asked Captain America to forgive him, even calling him, "Steve".
I guess he seemed so sympathetic because with his rage and hatred taken from him, he was just a tired old man who temporarily wanted to redeem himself in a small way.
That was mainly because all the villains of the story were turned good and reverted back to their old selves by the end including Skull. I’d also like to point out that that was a clone of Red Skull and not really the genuine article.
@@goblintributemaker2539 I agree that it was the inversion that caused it but it was still probably the only truly sympathetic moment in which he will ever be viewed. And clone or not, he still felt remorse.
Some iterations of his backstory can be tragic, even if it doesn't begin to justify his actions
@@redjirachi1 Well, from what I remember from Lee's Cap run, he was raised by Adolf Hitler, so it's understandable that he would end up the way he did.
@@MegaSpideyman- No, he wasn’t raised by Hitler. He was taught by him , but he wasn’t raised by him. He basically served Hitler for a while .
You are absolutely right Mr Rogues. Red Skull does have a unique and special relationship with Captain America. The same type of relationship that Batman and the Joker have. But the difference is that Joker is a mass murdering clown just to satisfy his sense of humour, Red Skull has the desire to remake the world under Hydra's rule at the cost of people's lives. Joker(psychopath) Red Skull (megalomaniac). By the way, I actually had a feeling you would do the top 5 stories. Nice job.
I’m looking forward to seeing if you do more marvel villains
Ride of the Valkyries ? Nice touch :)
This is very convenient because I'm learning about WW2 in my history class
My Top 5 Red Skull Stories:
5. The 1969 Cosmic Cube storyline that introduced the Falcon
4. The storyline from the 1980s where Arnim Zola had cloned the Red Skull a body that looked exactly like Steve Rogers and Rogers went back to being Captain America after his stint as the Captain. (I was disappointed when the Skull got dust in his face and he physically became the Red Skull again.)
3. The original Cosmic Cube story from Tales of Suspense
2. Operation: Rebirth (if for no other reason that Waid and Garney were such a breath of fresh air after Rik Levins' artwork)
1. "Red Dust" by Geoff Johns and Olivier Coipel (from The Avengers). I think I prefer the Red Skull as a power broker manipulating from behind the scenes. I also liked the distrust between Iron Man and the Black Panther.
1:10 - N°5 - Cap's back
3:45 - N°4 - Operation rebirth
6:05 - N°3 - Red skull vs magneto
8:05 - N°2 - Red glare
10:10 - N°1 - The death of the red skull
Ah, one of my favorite comic book villains getting a countdown at last. And great picks that I may have to check out some time.
GIVE THIS MAN MORE SUBS
I totally agree with your #1. Thank you for the polar opposite of Captain America list. Can’t wait to watch the next.
Did Nazi another Marvel character coming.
HAH
You have my respect
Boo!
The Red Skull is such an awesome Rogue!. I would love to see your selections for a top five Red Skull comic book covers review!
He is such a loser
I enjoyed his collaboration with the Hate Monger in Super Villain Team Up. Those were the issues where Monger got his mind trapped in the Cosmic Cube.
I'm happy to say that I have read all of these stories and I'm even more happy to see you do a type of list like this for a Marvel villain. I hope this is the first of many.
Great list!!! In the past, I was never a huge Skull fan, but I have been thinking about tracking down a few skull stories, but it has not been easy. Now, thanks to you, I have some new comics to add to my list.
Thanks again Rogues.
P.S. if it's not too much trouble, could you make a top 5 best stories video for Ultron? He is one of my favourite marvel rogues.
Awesome, always glad to help out!
As for Ultron, I really haven't read much with him, so at the moment that's not possible; BUT I have been wanting to read up on him for a while now. If I end up doing that, I will very likely make a video.
In a Marvel and DC crossover comic called Batman and Captain America published in 1996 Joker teams up with Red Skull but he turned against him when he found out that he was a Nazi that's even Joker hates Nazis!
Since you're starting to do more Marvel villains I think you should do Galactus, and maybe Apocalypse.
Would you view Galactus as a villain?
The streets of poison storyline is an excellent one also. ❤
Once again I never say your #5 and 4, but I have seen the top three. I don't have all the issues of your #2. But I definatly have to agree with your #1. And Congrats on the 10 k by the way.
Danke!
HEIL MR. ROGUES FROM THE ARKHAM ARMY. Another cool video although Skull would not even be in my top 20 villains he's still pretty alright lol.
the skull an awesome villain for the captain awesome video as always Mr. rogues
#2 and #3 were my favorites. This video made me look at Cap and Skull as the Patriotic Batman and the nazi joker.
Great video!
Can you do top five Anit-villains? Villains with a code like Captain Cold or do bad things for a good reason like Magnito
I’ve heard a rumor that Red Skull was inspired by a cherry 🍒 sundae...weird, am I right?
Must of been one rotten cherry yikes X3
The Red Skull was created by a Nazi version of F.L.A.G. serum.
@@johnbockelie3899 I’m talking about his real world origins.
Make a video about The Mandarin, or just iron man comics in general.
Old man Logan should have been on this list
Maybe you should do Hate monger video
This was a great video. I personally like the story where he fights Kingpin in a football stadium, over drug control.
"Streets of Poison" with Bullseye and Crossbones?
In their underwear.
@@VonWenk That's the one.
@@MrSafior I forgot about that.
@@patrickwebb7311 It's pretty hard to miss it.
Awesome !!! Really enjoyed this new video. I've always liked The Red Skull and I never had that much interest in Captain America.Just wanted to say I finished the Batman: The Court of Owls Saga and I think you would do a great job analyzing The Court of Owls along with the Mysterious Talon and Talon warriors. Just something for you to think about. Its great story so maybe you could review that. Hope you have a nice day Mr.Rogues.
Thanks! I actually did review it a few years ago.
Mr. Rogues oh my apologies. I’ll defiantly watch it.
8:00 The difference is Magneto is a well intentioned extremist villain who does what he feels he has to do to protect mutants from mutant hating humans whereas the Skull is selfish and only out for himself.
Oh sure, they aren't quite the same, but still, there are some similarities, which is interesting.
Ultimately, Magneto has honour. Red Skull does not.
Great to see a new vid uploaded
Here is an honourable mention: The Uncanny Avengers (volume 3) issues 18-22. A clone of the Red Skull has teleoathic powers, courtesy of a piece of Charles Xavier's brain. With these powers, Skull takes down each member of uncanny avengers.
Yes, the skull in the story is a clone, who still believes in the Nazi regime, but he is just as scary and evil as the original. The things he dies to the team is truly sickening and depraved. A very good Skull story. I highly reccomend it.
The story I was talking about take a place after Axis. And yes, Skull did look very cool in the onslaught armour.
Axis was just another stupid event comics, but the effective would last for a while, such as Sabretooth becoming a hero. If they wanted a heroic Sabretooth, why not just use the AOA version? A story with both good and evil creed Sabretooths would gave been fun to read
That's ok. I have not read the first uncanny avengers story, but there is one thing I do not like about it. They killed off avalanche. Waste of a good x men villain.
@@tayojones9460 Axis basicly ruin marvel universe with their retcon of Magneto no longer father of the Maximoff.
It praticlly said, " We don't care of the comics anymore, now it's only the movie who get attention", and for a long time it was the case.
Thankfully thank to Cebulski the comics get better and Sony prove you don't need to copy the MCU to be successfull, but it seems that marketting departement at Disney still don't get that.
That is what I hate about current marvel. Everything has to the into the stupid MCU. Hopefully, one day that stupid decision will be undone.
@@tayojones9460 Amen.
How could two Mark Waid stories get on here, but not the Red Skull vs Dr Doom from Super-Villain Team-Up? Where the Red Skull takes over Latveria.
Ok Nice my favorite Captain America villain
Can you also do top 5 stories on Baron Zemo?
That would serve my purpose nicely!
I'm a huge DC enthusiast, always have been, and sadly that never really left any place for Marvel;
so I'm ignorant about even some of the most basic stuff... except for the Punisher (Garth Ennis' run is my favorite one) and Quicksilver.
And since Zemo is the main villain of the current Punisher arc (the only DC title that I currently buy), that really got me curious about the guy.
The "Civil War" movie (that I still enjoyed) hadn't really done a good job introducing the character to me...
Randall Flagg how come?
You know how I like your vids.I wish you grow them as much as possible. Try connect with other Comic-Centric channels. We are in a time where people ignore the stories. Edit: believe in your work.
Hey, I was wondering if any of you guys could help with this. When I was a little kid, I once found this Marvel history book for kids. It's mostly accurate, but during the early history of the Avengers, it talks about some big team up between Dr Doom, Loki, Magneto and Red Skull where they called themselves "The Movers", and did battle with the Avengers. I know they collaborated with The Mandarin, The Wizard and The Kingpin during Acts of Vengeance where, according to Comic Vine, they went by the name "Prime Movers", but this supposedly takes place long before that. As far as I'm aware, this story doesn't exist and no team has ever called themselves "The Movers". Let me know if I'm wrong about this.
I just looked this up and the only thing I came across was Acts of Vengeance, as you said.
At least in the Den of Geek article on different high points of Loki, it didn't give any name for the villainous team.
I remember when Black Panther dislocated Red Skull’s jaw with a punch, it was hanging ready to fall off.
Can you make a video for magneto and dr doom ?
Two things about the Red Skull:
The dust of Death used in the Englehart story actually first appeared way back in the Skull's third appearance in Captain America Comics #7 in autumn 1941. It was used only sparingly.
The Red Skull story in your second spot was ultimately the reason Mark Waid left the title. The editorial at Marvel at the time thought the story of the fake imaginary world and the depiction of the Skull's origin to be too hardcore and had the script severely edited, which annoyed Waid. The unedited version of the script is floating around online if you're curious.
Nice Video..Could you do do best 5 Stories of Green Goblin/Venom?
TrainerRED Charizard Rouges don’t like them.
There is already a top 5 GG stories items. Made by Real super Sam.
@@tayojones9460Oh,i try to check that out
@@naimthebyrdman5068Oh.my bad then i guess
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“In a sick sort of way this is almost touching.”
What is with all of the derp faces Red Skull has in his older books?
What about a top 5 doctor doom stories ?
A red skull video with Wagner playing in the background. Suitable
I liked the Captain America and Batman crossover, with the highlight being the scene when the Joker stops working with Red Skull and fights with him once he learns Red Skull Is a nazi.
Yes and the sentence he said : i may be a super criminal but i am a patriotic super criminal i loved that story and that scene
Not to mention the rather humorous moment when Joker and Red Skull attack each other with Joker Venom and Dust of Death, only to find out both are immune to each others respective toxin.
Question : Do you plan to review Arkham Asylum in the near future? you could do an awesome video about that one.
For me tbh the Nazi part.
Maybe it is becauce i'm german, but seriously... basicly almost EVERY friking german villain is either a Nazi or asosiated with it...
Here it make sense of course but sometimes it realy feels like the writers where to lazy to think of something new or creative and simply overuse the nazi trope...
I wrote up a comment earlier, and apparently it didn't submit. Huh. Well, time to retype...
My Top four are the same as your top four. HOWEVER, I'd actually name Magneto vs. Red Skull as my second favorite, with Red Glare at third, and Operation Rebirth at fourth place. (The Death of Red Skull is undeniably his greatest outing.) I haven't read your fifth place choice, but - presuming we're going with "mainstream" stories only, as usual - I'd give my fifth place to Captain America: Reborn.
I am glad you love Red Skull so much; I sometimes feel that, of all the Marvel "Big Bads," he's the least appreciated. I should really see about doing a list of My Favorite Portrayals of Red Skull sometime...but the problem is, when it comes to other media, I like a lot of his portrayals more or less the same. :P
Yeah, I definately agree that Red Skull appears to be underappreciated; this video aint getting near enough as many views as I assumed it would get, haha... it's not doing BAD, but I had so much higher hopes for it.
Anyway, as for other media, I can't say I'm that well versed with the character; at the top of my head I can only remember the Hugo Weaving movie. I thought Skull was far too tame in that movie btw. You didn't get the feeling he was a nazi at all in that movie, just another generic super villain; HOWEVER I haven't seen the film since it came out, so my memory might be incorrect. What are your thoughts on that portrayal?
I feel like Red Skull is underappreciated precisely because he doesn't really have any truly awesome portrayals in media like the other big Marvel villains such as Magneto, Doctor Doom, Green Goblin, and Kingpin do. Best version of him is probably the one in the Avengers EMH cartoon and the version in the Avengers Assemble cartoon is pretty decent too. Then of course there's the movie version which I personally enjoy but I completely agree that he was far too tame. It was stupid for the MCU to make him more kid-friendly by making it so that he wasn't really a Nazi and just another supervillain who wanted to take over the world. And these three versions of him that I mentioned completely pale in comparison to the comics version. The problem seems to be that other media always makes him too tame. They always associate him with Hydra instead of the Nazis for some reason and they never make him genocidal. This is probably why people think he's a generic villain which is a shame.
The reason for the tame versions of skull outside of media is because the people adapting him do not want children to associate him with Nazis. Disney especially does not want to look like they are promoting a Nazi as a supervillain. I find this very ironic, especially considering early Disney animation depicted Donald working in a Nazi weapons factory. That said, it is rather annoying that skull has to be nurtured to appeal to the bloody mainstream. If they wanted to, they could have made Skull as dark as his comic book version, without mentioning Hitler at all. Skull grew out of the Nazi mone anyway and was still a monster.
Only version of skull outside of comics thst comes close to the comics is The version from EMH. His design, his voice (Thank You Steven Blum) and his actions were pure evil.
Sadly, with Disney catering to bloody gender politics and "family friendly" entertainment, we may not see a truly dark portrayal of the Skull anytime soon.
@@tayojones9460 That's actually another aspect of the comics version of Skull I love, the fact that he was able to adapt to modern times and eventually even use capitalism as his weapon instead of Nazism. Yes, the Avengers EMH version of him was pretty great and Steve Blum gave an epic performance as him but I felt that he was really underused in the show. Plus, even that version of him was associated with Hydra instead of the Nazis. I really hate it how now almost every Captain America villain ever is a member of Hydra whether it be Red Skull, Baron Zemo, Armin Zola, or Crossbones. It should really just be Madame Viper and Baron Strucker. And yes thanks to Disney there's no way we'll get a completely genocidal Red Skull for a long time. Although I will say I actually rather like Avengers Assemble's version of Skull especially since they gave him such a huge role in the show's first season. That was something I would never expect Disney to do.
Poor Strucker. Once leader of Hydra, now portrayed as a weak low ranking member in MCU media. Red skull was handled pretty well in AA (even though I do not like that cartoon).
The last one concluded in issue 300. For years I could've sworn it was 200. Nobody ever corrected me.
I'm not sure if Magneto is German.
Maybe he is and I'm mistaken, but I never got that impression.
I'm surprised there aren't more Nazi themed villains in comics. There's skull and Kronen from Hellboy as far as I know. Using real world evil, if done right can magnify the terror and dread those ideologies bring and make the hero more heroic in return. Though again it does take more effort than a wholly original villain considering the context but still.
Hail Haydra!!
The Man in the Red Castle.
Why not make a top 10 list instead of top 5?
OMG, RS actually points out that Magneto is mutant Hitler.
Oh no, you showed the swastika in your thumbnail! Prepare to be kicked off of RUclips, Mr. Rogues.
Yeah, like Pewds I guess I'm a nazi now cause I had nazis in my video.
@@mr.rogues4145 Well obviously that's how it works
I named my psn redskull before i knew there was a nazi character named that lol
Ya can't go wrong with Nazis if your looking for a bastard type villain.
Do a video on the Elementals from Comico. I used to have a couple of issues of them and the Justice Machine, I thought they'd be good for forgotten heroes.
Red Skull Incarnate TPB 2012 Marvel should be #1 his origin very interesting 5 issues all should buy them or the tpb!!! ebay $14-$20 tpb usa i got $15 all 5 issues and $14 tpb
Mr rogues I have a patient file, what do you think?
Patient #51719
Real name Jarvis Tech also called the Wizard of OZ by the staff. By the way anyone who calls him that shall be punished because based on examination it would seem the more often you refer to him as The Wizard of OZ his obsession seems to grow more vastly. In all honesty he is the definition of ludicrous and see no reason why he should be released, poor fella.
Once upon a time Jarvis was the child of two drunk parents who would constantly leave him confined in a torture room hidden in Jarvis’ room. This horror had started when he was just a newborn. He would spend sleepless nights in the room and the only thing that made him happy were books, this liking for the books had been the only thing he loved and cared for in his entire childhood. He grabbed hold of every book he could find recovers from the very few minutes he had to seeing the streets and library. All the books seem to bore him except for “The Wizard of Oz”. He was a talented engineer, in fact it ran through the whole family, hence the name of the family.
He vowed to one day run away by using his wits and talents. The one thing that encouraged him to follow this goal was “The Wizard of Oz”. The book was more than a mere book to the boy in fact it was his moral compass. By the age of fifteen he completed a device made from parts he scavenged ever since he was a boy. The device was a bomb, he planned to light it in his parents room, which would kill them. The reason for this rather than reporting to the police cause he never knew the existence of authority and believed it to be a thing of fiction and instead of running away without the murder was because he believed his parents to be powerful demons and could not escape their reach.
On that faithful night the plan fell into place. The house specifically his parents room was engulfed in flames killing the two. He ran off hoping to find an “Emerald City” were he could live happily in. As the years rolled by Years after he fled he became more aware of the world he lived in and even learned how smell, write, and etc. He lived in a portable toilet located in a junkyard. Despite that he seemed to believe it to be an “Emerald City”. He had a job as an electrical worker though not a successful one.
One day as he was returning home he saw a kid in the same position he was in as a child. He stalked the boy and his family seeing them just as he viewed his parental units, pure evil demons who enjoyed torture. He broke into the house to liberate the child, the mother found the skinny man dressed in a dark green coat with a green top hat, a worn out blue T-shirt, rugged pants, and a green glowing mask on his face. He was getting the child out of the torture room and taking him away. A fight broke out, Jarvis didn’t know how to fight but he knew how to kill, he took a belt and tied it around her neck. He attached it to the wall and pushed out of the window causing her to be hanged. The boy he was rescuing smiled in pure happiness seeing his own mother finally meet her end. He took the boy to his new home, he forged it with the scraps of metal and broken cars. He asked the boy his name but he didn’t know it, likely due to the trauma his mother put him through. He saw the “Scarecrow” in him and therefore made him his partner to free children from abusive parents no matter who gets killed.
Jarvis has absolutely no idea how precious life is and because of this kills without a second thought. Though he makes an exception for his army of deranged children dressed up like the characters from the wizard of Oz. If only his parents weren’t so cruel to him he might have used his abilities for the greater good. Nonetheless he is very homicidal and takes great pleasure in it, one time he killed one hundreds and eighty people in one night. What he does isn’t for mere revenge its just to make sure that no child will have to face the same piece of hell he experienced at a very young age. Though his goal is very noble his methods are very gory and he doesn’t seem to think they’re wrong.
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Mr. Rogues okay
Mr. Rogues actually I don't use Facebook much so can you just judge it from here
I am totally ok with this. Parasite who???
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do mr chamra
nein nein nein!
What about top 5 Lord pumpkin stories
That would be like, all of them haha..
Well, he doesn't even have 5 stories, so...
number 1 is red skulls killing joke
death of the family really
@@Frogman1212 both
I feel like he would work better if his face wasn't a mask and it was like an injury
It's not a mask any longer though. He accidentally sprayed himself with the red dust.