@@brandonadams7837 aerodynamics and physics doesn’t explain why it looks like a lot of turboprops use the same airframe. All these engineers aren’t coming up with the same design
@@brandonadams7837 I have no idea what the wait list is for a new one, but there are many that are slightly used which are almost the equal of the new design. Good used aircraft are not a problem. The Lear 35a that I used to fly was built in 1978. I have learned to let everything that I purchase experience its initial deprecitiation before I buy it.
Lmao, i may need a new log book. I cant find the almost retract. Guess im showing my age. 😢 😂i also dont know how i feel about an aircrafts ability to initiate autoland or auto descent.
Five million 🤣🤣😂😂.. Even its base price of 4.1 is absurd. The 700HP-PW is an excellent power plant, but it doesn't crank it up to even 4Mil. When you can buy a near new TBM900 with a PT6A-66D 850 SHP/TP for half the Piper's cost, it's a no brainer!! Watch for the huge price drop on this. No way will the build any inventory models, so be prepared to wait while your being screwed too!
Piper is behind the curve when it comes to pilot/passenger size. They still build aircraft for 5’7 170 lb WW2 measurements . There goes 70% of their sales.
Not, much range too expensive for a single engine prop 6 seat's. Agree, that the TBM 960 is cheaper longer range but the cruise speed falls shoe but I would pick the TBM 960.
Since you have written that "the cruise speed falls shoe", I think the chances of your getting a TBM 960 are pretty slim. But then, so are mine. That's why I'm sticking with my Chevy truck.
You have a very nice looking plane, but the statement you made about it being the fastest single engine is false. As I said, this is a very nice plane, but the only way this plane can keep up with a TBM is 100% torque and a 1000 foot per minute decent. In level flight, this plane will see the tail of a TBM as it disappears out in front of you.
@@AviationBase Correct. Never flew one but maybe some day. I went with a friend to get his personal TBM 940 and going across the North Atlantic with the great tail wind we had at FL-300...our ground speed was over 400 mph.
Instead of spending money on new technologies like fusion engines, they spend it on pointless, 100-year-old luxury items. All industries have silly engineers nowadays...
@@4lifeiflyWrong. The newest TBM 960 is $4.5m to $5m dependent on config. Any experienced aircraft owner would not own a Piper over a plane like a TBM even if the TBM cost $1m more. Piper is junk compared to it. Also, the Pilatus PC-12NG is $4.05 million, and fully equipped executive version will cost around $4.8 million. Then you have the Cirrus Jet SF50 which is also a far superior plane to this Piper. And you can get one of those in the $2.5 million range, and since it has a single jet engine, the maintenance run rate is far less than any other business or personal single-pilot jet.
@@speedomars lol you’re clueless. Not a single new TBM has sold for under $5M in years, and the current market for PC-12s… you aren’t touching a new one for under $7M. Don’t believe the brochures, that’s not reality. USED PC-12 still sell for as much as new TBMs.
@@speedomars I’m not saying the M700 is some revolutionary airplane… it’s a recycled design once again. But it’s not in the same class as the others. Much smaller, cheaper, and substantially cheaper in running costs. The TBM is by far a better airplane but much more expensive.
@@FelXH1 fair enough. I assumed you meant something used and older. Maintenance and insurance and overall operating costs will still be significant higher even for a Mustang.
Hahaha. Fastest? Clearly you haven’t been in a TBM 900-series. Oh and these don’t have a pilot door. So you have to climb over everyone just to get up front. Sorry, Piper. TBM has you beat.
A mask, really. I see there are people still falling for that con. Like the clowns you see driving by themselves wearing a mask. Also long haul flights challenging with an onboard head. At that price it should have one. Only 100lbs luggage capacity, what a joke.Change its name to Furby.
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Are those USB-A ports? Unable to keep any tablet alive? I would expect to see USB-C PD with 100W per port in a new aircraft of this class.
That stood out to me as well. There should be both right next to each other everywhere.
Ohhh PREMIUM leather! Imagine that on a 5M plane! PREMIUM!
Why do a lot of these planes look almost identical to the TBM’s?
Because aerodynamics and physics. That’s like asking why all airplanes have wings.
@@brandonadams7837 aerodynamics and physics doesn’t explain why it looks like a lot of turboprops use the same airframe. All these engineers aren’t coming up with the same design
@@Lieutenant-Danskie that’s like asking why do all submarines look similar. Because it works.
@@Lieutenant-Danskie I'd suggest that you educate yourself more about Airplanes
@@qtr7 way over your head obviously. Have a wonderful day little bud
In this range of budget, an operator will pick a light jet as a Phenon 100...
I would be buying an Epic E1000 GX. That is what I would buy!
And at full fuel, you'll be lucky to have only 2 persons and their backpacks on board "Inc the pilot" before you reach MTOW
I have heard about that complain
For real? With that much horsepower?
@@macgyver2169 Very true
Why would I buy this instead of a TBM? Anyone?
Availability would probably be the only reason. What’s the wait list for a new TBM?
@@brandonadams7837 I have no idea what the wait list is for a new one, but there are many that are slightly used which are almost the equal of the new design. Good used aircraft are not a problem. The Lear 35a that I used to fly was built in 1978. I have learned to let everything that I purchase experience its initial deprecitiation before I buy it.
I can think of $1 Million reasons.
WOW...! And Halo is also amazing...
so how hard is a transition from a PA 28 to this
5 million and it’s almost a retract! I will have to get that almost retract endorsement.
Lmao, i may need a new log book. I cant find the almost retract. Guess im showing my age. 😢 😂i also dont know how i feel about an aircrafts ability to initiate autoland or auto descent.
Cross shopping to TBM, PC12 and arguably.......King Air.....
Its beautiful but... the TBM looks more versatile
At this price I will take a HondaJet with multi-engine redundancy, I'll pay the extra costs.
But this thing has leather wrapped steering wheels. Two of them. Match that, Honda. I don't think even the Honda Civic has that. Not 2 of 'em anyway.
The M700 is NOT $5mm. Typically equipped it is $4.2, about $1mm less than the TBM960. Please change the title of your video.
Why should I buy this instead of a Cirrus Vision Jet for 60% of the cost?
Type rating - annual cert/schooling for said type rating, cirrus typical overhaul $1 mil, cirrus fuel burn 70 gph, cirrus has abysmal climb rate 1600 fpm
Handicapping the plane's MTOW to qualify for Basic Med was a huge mistake.
The commentors on this video are savage. What's with all the hate?
It’s very poorly done
Five million 🤣🤣😂😂.. Even its base price of 4.1 is absurd. The 700HP-PW is an excellent power plant, but it doesn't crank it up to even 4Mil. When you can buy a near new TBM900 with a PT6A-66D 850 SHP/TP for half the Piper's cost, it's a no brainer!! Watch for the huge price drop on this. No way will the build any inventory models, so be prepared to wait while your being screwed too!
Sorry, a Pilatus PC-12 is better and has more seating with a lavatory for long flights!
I think this plane has more instruments and electronics then a 777...
Piper is behind the curve when it comes to pilot/passenger size. They still build aircraft for 5’7 170 lb WW2 measurements . There goes 70% of their sales.
Not, much range too expensive for a single engine prop 6 seat's.
Agree, that the TBM 960 is cheaper longer range but the cruise speed falls shoe but I would pick the TBM 960.
Since you have written that "the cruise speed falls shoe", I think the chances of your getting a TBM 960 are pretty slim. But then, so are mine. That's why I'm sticking with my Chevy truck.
@@roberthenry9319 sorry about that I meant short not shoe
Are you kidding... 100lbs of luggage for 5 pax???
I thought that was strange. The ground roll and take off roll over 50 ft object is also very long.
PC12 NGX would be $$$ better spent .....
Perhaps Piper will teach me how to fly and maintain this aircraft....
And the analog backup gauges are where............??
imagine the sore right leg you will get from that thing on T/O lol
You have a very nice looking plane, but the statement you made about it being the fastest single engine is false. As I said, this is a very nice plane, but the only way this plane can keep up with a TBM is 100% torque and a 1000 foot per minute decent. In level flight, this plane will see the tail of a TBM as it disappears out in front of you.
It is PIPER's fastest single-engine aircraft ever produced, not THE fastest single-engine aircraft ever produced
@@AviationBase Correct. Never flew one but maybe some day. I went with a friend to get his personal TBM 940 and going across the North Atlantic with the great tail wind we had at FL-300...our ground speed was over 400 mph.
4 men MAX can foot in there
Don't buy new these depreciate , it would be better to buy an 10yr old Jet for around 1.5 million .
Pity the pilot can't see much except glare shield.
Well, that's what you get for buying the cheap one.
5 mil for a piper paper plane 😂
I would take a TBM900 over a Piper any day of the week. Shorter takeoff with 850 SHP on takeoff, faster climb rates, and faster cruise speed.
I would rather get a pc-12
Dude with a mask on at FL150 by himself... bruh.
This aircraft couldn’t carry Hunter Biden’s crack stash with full fuel.
😂
Instead of spending money on new technologies like fusion engines, they spend it on pointless, 100-year-old luxury items. All industries have silly engineers nowadays...
Fewer and fewer people care.
Almost nobody cares.
750nm. No thanks. If you can't compete with daher 960 or pc12 ngx your wasting your time.
Pipers are junk compared to what they compete with....The price range of a Daher TBM 940 is $4,200,000 - $4,570,000
A comment without knowledge
TBM is a hell of a lot more expensive. Both in purchase price, and running costs.
@@4lifeiflyWrong. The newest TBM 960 is $4.5m to $5m dependent on config. Any experienced aircraft owner would not own a Piper over a plane like a TBM even if the TBM cost $1m more. Piper is junk compared to it. Also, the Pilatus PC-12NG is $4.05 million, and fully equipped executive version will cost around $4.8 million. Then you have the Cirrus Jet SF50 which is also a far superior plane to this Piper. And you can get one of those in the $2.5 million range, and since it has a single jet engine, the maintenance run rate is far less than any other business or personal single-pilot jet.
@@speedomars lol you’re clueless. Not a single new TBM has sold for under $5M in years, and the current market for PC-12s… you aren’t touching a new one for under $7M. Don’t believe the brochures, that’s not reality. USED PC-12 still sell for as much as new TBMs.
@@speedomars I’m not saying the M700 is some revolutionary airplane… it’s a recycled design once again. But it’s not in the same class as the others. Much smaller, cheaper, and substantially cheaper in running costs. The TBM is by far a better airplane but much more expensive.
*I would rather get a Beechcraft Denali*
An aircraft that is still over a year away from certification and you can’t buy yet? Ok.
Why should I spend 5 million Dollars on a turboprob single engine aircraft, when I can get a private jet with two engines for about 3 million Dollars?
Cost of operation on a jet engine!
Because in two years you’ll spend way more keeping that old jet maintained and flying.
@@brandonadams7837 old jet? I thought about a citation mustang, wich is even less than 3 million now.
@@FelXH1 fair enough. I assumed you meant something used and older. Maintenance and insurance and overall operating costs will still be significant higher even for a Mustang.
You will get into more airports with this than a jet.
who is the fool with a mask
Hahaha. Fastest? Clearly you haven’t been in a TBM 900-series.
Oh and these don’t have a pilot door. So you have to climb over everyone just to get up front.
Sorry, Piper. TBM has you beat.
You misunderstood. He said it was Piper's fastest single-engine aircraft, not the fastest from any manufacturer. The description backs that up.
A mask, really. I see there are people still falling for that con. Like the clowns you see driving by themselves wearing a mask. Also long haul flights challenging with an onboard head. At that price it should have one. Only 100lbs luggage capacity, what a joke.Change its name to Furby.