47:07 There is definitely a full arc for RoboCop across the entire trilogy. The first film has him go through losing his identity to regaining it but he's still left with having to deal with crime almost single handedly while the police are on strike...the second film has OCP and the villains attempt to bury the newly rediscovered man and have him consumed by the machine both by stripping him (treating him like a machine physically) and then with the Directive Overload (treating him like a machine mentally) but Murphy survives that and proclaims his enduring humanity at the end...and the third film finally gives him an out to liberate himself from this purgatory he's been trapped in, where it's no longer a question of whether he's man or machine but the acceptance that he's both...that he's more...which is why he declares himself to be Murphy to his allies and RoboCop to his enemies and why he acknowledges both monikers at the end rather than just one or the other. There's also the evolution imagery which is why RoboCop gains the ability of flight in the third film. The arc is also reflected in the villains he fights and the situations he's caught up in. The first film is a blend of both man and machine, so you get Clarence Boddicker (man) and ED-209 (machine)...the second leans more into the machine so you get a man who becomes machine with Cain...and the third is a much more human story with the Resistance which is why you get a machine disguised as a man with Otomo.
There's not much better than finding a new channel with tons of videos that look interesting. I'm thoroughly enjoying going through your content. Your videos about the alien series are particularly great. Definitely subscribed. 👍
I fully recognize every problem with this movie…but I can’t help but love it. It’s probably more to do with nostalgia or the fact that the design/aesthetic of Robo himself was my first obsession point with the character. I was the perfect age for this, and in peak fan boy mode, when it came out. Ahhh, the days of getting movie news from magazines…
Saw this one in the theater. Huge fan of the first two (yes, I liked 2, it’s a good dark comedy). About 30 minutes into it I left the theater, went to the liquor store across the street, then returned with enough bourbon to finish the movie.
Splatterpunks was the name of an anthology and a self-selected name for a group of horror authors of the 1980s who took the idea using extreme violence and gore of the horror movies of the era and fusing it to their own stories. They point to Clive Barker as an influence, and the authors who might be of most interest in terms of their cinematic connections are screenwriters John Shirley and David J. Schow (The Crow, Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3, Critters sequels), John Skipp and Craig Spector (wrote the novelisation of Fright Night and the original screenplay for Nightmare on Elm Street 5) Richard Christian Matheson (son of novelist/screenwriter Richard Matheson) and Joe R. Lansdale (Bubba HoTep). I'm guessing Fred Dekker knew of them if not any of them personally, and inserted the name as an in-joke especially since the first Robocop would be the level of violence you'd find in Splatterpunk ficion, though not one that works if you don't know the context, as it does sound cringe if you don't realize it was even the authors at the time making a joke about being horror's answer to cyberpunk. Great commentary!
Although I did know before that you'd done Commentaries before, I only looked back through your back catalogue after I got around to the Alien ones. I've found a few on streaming but I have most of them on physical media, it's been a great excuse to watch them again. I'm the past 3 weeks I've done Timecop, InnerSpace, Jurassic Park, Ghostbusters, Tron, The Bourne Identity. Masters of the Universe, The Terminator, Poltergeist and 2 of my favourite movies of all time, Predator and Dog Soldiers. When recent movies have been, on the whole, pretty disappointing, your reviews and commentaries are vital for keeping people enthusiastic about great movies.
Movies, games and videos, wow now that's a blast to the past. I enjoyed the movie as a kid, due to everything that was mentioned e.g. jet pack, detachable arm. Would have been about 6/7 years old I think when I first watched it. It's just a very watered down version of the previous two movies. I liked the ideas with the story.
Love R3 Was there for its Vegas opening show. The feeling of setting things right from the opening scene on was palpable. Was it great? No. Was it terrible ? Not at all. RJB was a fantastic Robo!
Youve raised some good ideas for what might have been the plot/story, the 209 thing helping the public was used in the comic version, as I recall, I did like this ROBOCOP 3, for all it's faults, there's nothing wrong with the story concept, it just copped out (no pun) by watering down to reach a wider audience, film Studios have realised the kids watch adult intended violent films, believing it's the untapped market, BUT it doesnt work generally.
38:59 When a scene like that comes to mind, I usually think Petey Wheatstraw. When the funeral procession gets gunned down on the steps outside a church. Then everyone gets revived in super duper reverse motion.
I actually watched this for the first time on bootleg vhs that I bought at some random kiosk ... I was hyped af... the ninja was so cool, I then went to find other Bruce Locke movies, and Tiger Mask was sort of one of his top films, I had no idea the actor can't fight and not a martial artist at all, he's just tall and that's it... heh Tiger Mask is pretty... unusual movie)
On an army of ED-209s with the kid hacking some of them. I can just imagine that scene. *one ED-209 turns to another* "You are illegally trespassing on private property. Leave now. You have 20 seconds to comply." "You are guilty of threatening a law enforcement droid and are ordered to surrender. You have 10 SECONDS to comply." "I am now authorised to use lethal fo-" *is immediately shot to pieces, mayhem ensues*
clicked liked for the opening logo alone. been following you for a minute and I love all of your stuff. Please do a retrospective on The Fly 2. I'd like to see your take on it.
The real World has caught up with ROBOCOP 3 - gentrification, tech Companies & such like, just as it did with the original film. As for kids in films aimed at Adult audiences, people felt it worked perfectly in TERMINATOR 2 there is the proverb- "the children are the future" in ROBOCOP it was NEVER about Robocop himself, as an action hero, the points were- Corporate fascism, de-humanisation, Corruption & the struggle for freedom of will and vengeance.
Best PG-13 film until Alien vs Predator? In all seriousness, you guys doing commentaries are the only reasons I’ve gone back to both films. Love hearing your thoughts; but unfortunately neither AVP or this have gotten any better with time.
Looking at the still of Robos face at around 32:55, Robocop could be the bastard son of Peter Weller and Yul Bryners gunslinger robot from Westworld... Is there something we should know..? Luv, Swami
The fact we've had alot of terrible movies in the last 10years due to the woke timeline we're going through movies like this are starting to look not so bad.
Have you thought of doing commentary for the 4 part TV movie Robocop: Prime Directives? The Robocop 3 game on the Amiga was pretty decent its way better than the film.
Only good thing bout this film is Basil Poledoris coming back. Robocop 2’s score was like that Morcombe and Wise sketch. “All the right notes, just not in the right order.” Lot of cross pollination there I’m sure, between fans of Robocop and Morcombe and Wise 😒
I'm sorry but citation VERY much needed for Oliver's ridiculous claim that Peter Weller voiced RoboCop saying "Excellent" in the 16-bit Robocop vs Terminator game. That claim reeks of BS.
Another film that had its release delayed due to Orion Pictures' financial woes (much like *"RoboCop 3")* was the cult- classic film: *"CLIFFORD"* starring Martin Short (literally playing a 10-year- old child while he was close to 40), Charles Grodin, Mary Steenburgen, and Dabney Coleman. It was originally filmed in 1990 and set to be released in Summer 1991, but it wouldn't be released until April 1, 1994. Also during that time, the film went through reshoots in 1993 and added the wraparound (which is set in the future year of 2050 with an elderly Clifford and a troubled kid played by Ben Savage).
You kept mentioning Phantom Menace, so maybe you could do a new set of commentaries on the PT? Or is it too much of a dodgy subject, doing a commentary on a train wreck that has so many fanatical followers?
@@jonathanpratte1988 We did have Robocop Prime Directives. 4 of them. They weren't good either... though they do have their moments. Murphy is allowed to emote for instance.
Actualy the guy who playes the gas station clerc played in RoboCop 2 another role. He’s name is Garry Bullock and he played the doctor who cut open oficer Duffy in front of the Cain’s gang.
If you have a problem with Robert Burke's voice, there is a fan edit out there called The Weller Cut the replaced his voice and face with Peter Weller.
So Robocop 2014 next? Cause I can't think of a more forgettable remake considering the lengthy development going from Darren Aronofsky to the director of elite squad who wanted a real R rated movie but was forced into PG 13
Robocop 3 was another in a lasting Hollywood tradition of making sequels and/or remakes to Paul Verhoeven movies without ever bothering to understand what made those movies work. See also Starship Troopers and Total Recall.
In time I learn to like Robocop 3, at least keep some of the aesthetic and satire of 1 and 2. Make up the tone down over the top violence, something the reboot had.
Oh man, this movie is hot dogsh*t :D :D :D I watched it about a year after it came out, hated it... and revisited it about 2 years ago. It's sooooo bad. The remake is worse though.
If nothing else, Robocop 2 - the actual robot - is among the best if not the best stop-motion effect in a movie. Robocop 3 has weird unpainted kabuki mask ninjas.
I like the movie but as a sequel to Robocop 1 and 2… yeah, it isn’t great. Much like the remake, as a standalone movie I do enjoy them both… I try to separate Robocop 1 and 2 from 3 and it’s remake.
We saw this when I was little and thought to myself. This a really boring film. The only the thing that caught my attn was the ed-209 cameo. Then when Robo says call me RoboCop. It to me defeated the narrative of the first film.
To be fair, that was a gag. The line "My friends call me Murphy, _you_ call me Robocop." was just kicking the comically incompetent CEO when he was down.
The biggest mistake of Robocop 3. it wasnt a robocop movie. You need satire. you need to mock society at it's worst predicted yet functional future, and you need to display inhumane corporate behavior trying to ignore the human needs of the consumer and employees. Let me tell you how you fix that. Robocop 3. Dead to Rights. China has taken a stranglehold on OCP's Detroit city and the Triad is now in control. Robocop and his police precinct are now under control by a older disgruntled police chief dispatched specially to oversee dealing with the Triad. It's Mel Gibson. (its instantly already a betterilm. truly to be a good film. just give Mel Gibson the ability to edit everything on the fly and adapt to what he says.) OCP meanwhile is dealing with Triad leaders in a discrete meeting, when the Triad surprises OCP (who has a number of ED209's as guards on the venue and a new mechanical robot that is sleeker. But the Triad have adapted with power armored thugs and electro swords that can cut through the ED209's limbs and leave it useless on the ground. Meanwhile the sexy Tang Wei, the female dominatrix amid the leadership of the Triad moves to finalize negotiations with the OCP leaders trying to work out a shared power, or to kick the Triad out. A few losses of some heads later, and it seems a new CEO for the OCP is taking power, one who is also marrying Tang Wei, to consolidate his happy feelings. he is very nervous but goes on with the Triad's orders. The elimination of jobs from New Detroit's citizens to chinese immigrants starts to happen and more people lose housing and are homeless. The disgruntled masses resort to crime, and Chief Gibson soon has his hands full. That's when he gets an idea. A sting operation. Using his best resources he pulls in some members of the ATF to go under cover and purchase a large number of materials from the OCP who are selling it under orders from the Triad to make more money. This leads to a nasty standoff when they try to arrest the OCP leadership and investigate that Tang Wei leads a squad of Triad into taking them on. The evidence is quickly uploaded to the network but the ATF are for once outgunned and outnumbered and find themselves running down the streets from reprogrammed ED-209s with Chinese martial arts masters lurking in the shadows to help clear the way. That's when the unexpected happens. a mob of former detroit citizens form and actually attack the ED-209s and Triad members. its a blood bath, the ED-209s are cutting through a lot of people, and inadvertently kill several Triad members, but the mod does put them down, and they eliminate most of the Triad, but a few get away to warn their boss, while the surviving ATF are grateful and promise to clean up New Detroit and OCP for them. They say "good. and get rid of the ED-209's. Those are jobs we can fill from now on." The we hit roughly the half way mark and the Triad decides its time not only to take on a larger ATF task force coming, but to break the people of New Detroit. Meanwhile robocop has been busy, behind the people of detroit, he has been among them, rallying them, a general to inspire, and help them actually survive when attacking the ED-209's. His presence that of a silver clad mechanical cowboy. And the Triad has taken notice of him too. Tang Wei unleashes several special OCP weapons just to take down robocop, for some maintenance. It gets pretty nasty and the fierce battle is going to end robocop except for one thing, Chief Gibson did not give permission for OCP robots to be operating in the city, and he has acquired enough hardware to put them down as they are cornering and beating down robocop. The Triad comes right after Chief Gibson and robocop, but the people of New Detroit have been watching, a newsman has been broadcasting events and everyone gathering around the events, just like in Deathwash 3 i believe. The movie climaxes as as Tang Wei comes directly into battle leading the final Triad remnant in taking out the police station Chief Gibson and robocop are at, getting robocop repaired. In a damaged state robocop must help defend his fellow humans in blue, and Gibson is no where to be seen, when he suddenly emerges in a massive mechanical walking machine and takes on the OCP's robotic menaces directly, while a ATF raid at OCP headquarters leads to the mainframe being forcibly shut down eventually. but will it be done in time to save Gibson and robocop? On the movie finale only will we find out.
it still needs satire and paul verhoevens amazing slanted view to make it stand out. and hilarious tv spots and news commercials. and lets be honest. at some point they need to feature attempts by commercials to encourage people to get sex change operations as if its perfectly normal and everything will be fine for them afterwards. as easy as taking out the trash with no consequences. uhh maybe have a actual family to have the point of view from, but they are immigrants from asia and have a direct understanding of the danger of the triad and are just trying not to get caught up, while totally getting caught up and maybe robocop has to save them repeatedly early on from the triad threatening or abducting them along with others. maybe the triad running a slave shop out of a school and literally forcing kids to work for less then minimum wage. then some homeless person who lost their job cracks at least they have work. dark and satyric. the full way.
47:07 There is definitely a full arc for RoboCop across the entire trilogy.
The first film has him go through losing his identity to regaining it but he's still left with having to deal with crime almost single handedly while the police are on strike...the second film has OCP and the villains attempt to bury the newly rediscovered man and have him consumed by the machine both by stripping him (treating him like a machine physically) and then with the Directive Overload (treating him like a machine mentally) but Murphy survives that and proclaims his enduring humanity at the end...and the third film finally gives him an out to liberate himself from this purgatory he's been trapped in, where it's no longer a question of whether he's man or machine but the acceptance that he's both...that he's more...which is why he declares himself to be Murphy to his allies and RoboCop to his enemies and why he acknowledges both monikers at the end rather than just one or the other.
There's also the evolution imagery which is why RoboCop gains the ability of flight in the third film.
The arc is also reflected in the villains he fights and the situations he's caught up in. The first film is a blend of both man and machine, so you get Clarence Boddicker (man) and ED-209 (machine)...the second leans more into the machine so you get a man who becomes machine with Cain...and the third is a much more human story with the Resistance which is why you get a machine disguised as a man with Otomo.
Interesting analysis.
The only positive association I will have with this movie will be this commentary.
I had a delicious Cheeseburger while watching Robocop 3 back in 1993, that's my most positive association with it
There's not much better than finding a new channel with tons of videos that look interesting. I'm thoroughly enjoying going through your content. Your videos about the alien series are particularly great.
Definitely subscribed. 👍
1:24:05 Love the chemistry between Ollie and Rob 😄
Amazing commentary!
28:44 There's the giant model displayed for the press at the Civic Centrum where the Old Man also presents RoboCop 2.
I fully recognize every problem with this movie…but I can’t help but love it. It’s probably more to do with nostalgia or the fact that the design/aesthetic of Robo himself was my first obsession point with the character. I was the perfect age for this, and in peak fan boy mode, when it came out. Ahhh, the days of getting movie news from magazines…
I hated this movie when I saw it in 94 when I was 7...and I hate it now...but I will listen to this commentary and laugh my ass off
1:22:07
Eva LaRue was also in *"CSI Miami"*
(from Season 5 to 10) with
David Carusco (from *"First Blood")*
& Rex Linn (from *"Cliffhanger").*
Saw this one in the theater. Huge fan of the first two (yes, I liked 2, it’s a good dark comedy).
About 30 minutes into it I left the theater, went to the liquor store across the street, then returned with enough bourbon to finish the movie.
I'd buy that for a dollar.
😂
I'll always remember a mini article about Orion's downfall that I read in a video games magazine as a kid... It was titled: _Orion are Cryin'_
Splatterpunks was the name of an anthology and a self-selected name for a group of horror authors of the 1980s who took the idea using extreme violence and gore of the horror movies of the era and fusing it to their own stories. They point to Clive Barker as an influence, and the authors who might be of most interest in terms of their cinematic connections are screenwriters John Shirley and David J. Schow (The Crow, Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3, Critters sequels), John Skipp and Craig Spector (wrote the novelisation of Fright Night and the original screenplay for Nightmare on Elm Street 5) Richard Christian Matheson (son of novelist/screenwriter Richard Matheson) and Joe R. Lansdale (Bubba HoTep).
I'm guessing Fred Dekker knew of them if not any of them personally, and inserted the name as an in-joke especially since the first Robocop would be the level of violence you'd find in Splatterpunk ficion, though not one that works if you don't know the context, as it does sound cringe if you don't realize it was even the authors at the time making a joke about being horror's answer to cyberpunk.
Great commentary!
Although I did know before that you'd done Commentaries before, I only looked back through your back catalogue after I got around to the Alien ones. I've found a few on streaming but I have most of them on physical media, it's been a great excuse to watch them again. I'm the past 3 weeks I've done Timecop, InnerSpace, Jurassic Park, Ghostbusters, Tron, The Bourne Identity. Masters of the Universe, The Terminator, Poltergeist and 2 of my favourite movies of all time, Predator and Dog Soldiers.
When recent movies have been, on the whole, pretty disappointing, your reviews and commentaries are vital for keeping people enthusiastic about great movies.
Oliver, dude you should totally make Night of the Creeps the subject of your next retrospective review.
Movies, games and videos, wow now that's a blast to the past. I enjoyed the movie as a kid, due to everything that was mentioned e.g. jet pack, detachable arm. Would have been about 6/7 years old I think when I first watched it. It's just a very watered down version of the previous two movies. I liked the ideas with the story.
Dracula 2000 review 🎃🧛♂️📽😎
Request! - do a retrospective review of the 2000 film "Supernova" with James Spader, Angela Bassett, Lou Diamond Philips.
Love R3 Was there for its Vegas opening show. The feeling of setting things right from the opening scene on was palpable. Was it great? No. Was it terrible ? Not at all. RJB was a fantastic Robo!
Youve raised some good ideas for what might have been the plot/story,
the 209 thing helping the public was used in the comic version, as I recall, I did like this ROBOCOP 3, for all it's faults, there's nothing wrong with the story concept, it just copped out (no pun) by watering down to reach a wider audience,
film Studios have realised the kids watch adult intended violent films, believing it's the untapped market, BUT it doesnt work generally.
38:59 When a scene like that comes to mind, I usually think Petey Wheatstraw. When the funeral procession gets gunned down on the steps outside a church. Then everyone gets revived in super duper reverse motion.
I feel the same way about RobCop 3. I never liked it until a month ago when I watched it again. Now I notice the emotional nuances it has.
Been dying for this 😊
I actually watched this for the first time on bootleg vhs that I bought at some random kiosk ... I was hyped af... the ninja was so cool, I then went to find other Bruce Locke movies, and Tiger Mask was sort of one of his top films, I had no idea the actor can't fight and not a martial artist at all, he's just tall and that's it... heh Tiger Mask is pretty... unusual movie)
On an army of ED-209s with the kid hacking some of them. I can just imagine that scene.
*one ED-209 turns to another*
"You are illegally trespassing on private property. Leave now. You have 20 seconds to comply."
"You are guilty of threatening a law enforcement droid and are ordered to surrender. You have 10 SECONDS to comply."
"I am now authorised to use lethal fo-" *is immediately shot to pieces, mayhem ensues*
I appreciate the Brooklyn 99 reference.
I always thought CCH Pounder would've made a perfect Amanda Waller if they had done Suicide Squad in the 90s.
She voiced the character in Justice League and Justice League unlimited cartoon shows
@thecaptainoutoftime5351 I'm glad that happened in some form because she's perfect for the character.
clicked liked for the opening logo alone. been following you for a minute and I love all of your stuff. Please do a retrospective on The Fly 2. I'd like to see your take on it.
I saw this movie once when I was about 12. Even then, I knew it was awful. What a way to end the series. Enjoyed the commentary though.
Miguel ferrer from1,Jill hennessy from this both starred in a series called crossing jordan
Would love to see some Superman ones
I need a commentary on Superman IV. 😁
The real World has caught up with ROBOCOP 3 - gentrification, tech Companies & such like, just as it did with the original film.
As for kids in films aimed at Adult audiences, people felt it worked perfectly in TERMINATOR 2
there is the proverb- "the children are the future"
in ROBOCOP it was NEVER about Robocop himself, as an action hero, the points were- Corporate fascism, de-humanisation, Corruption & the struggle for freedom of will and vengeance.
Now I have to buy Rogue City T_T
Do it! It's awesome!
Phenomenal game. The REAL Robocop 3.
But I have a huge steam backlog! 😢
Good game
@@MikMaioIf you're a Robocop fan you'll love it.
Best PG-13 film until Alien vs Predator?
In all seriousness, you guys doing commentaries are the only reasons I’ve gone back to both films. Love hearing your thoughts; but unfortunately neither AVP or this have gotten any better with time.
Movie, games and videos!!! Those were the days
I can remember Robocop 3 coming out on Atari ST like 3 years before the movie, i dont even know if it was in cinemas, straight to vhs i think
Movies, Games and Videos. Loved that back in the day.
Looking at the still of Robos face at around 32:55, Robocop could be the bastard son of Peter Weller and Yul Bryners gunslinger robot from Westworld...
Is there something we should know..?
Luv, Swami
The fact we've had alot of terrible movies in the last 10years due to the woke timeline we're going through movies like this are starting to look not so bad.
Oh shut up. You people are worse than the bad movies you won't stop yapping about.
Have you thought of doing commentary for the 4 part TV movie Robocop: Prime Directives?
The Robocop 3 game on the Amiga was pretty decent its way better than the film.
Only good thing bout this film is Basil Poledoris coming back. Robocop 2’s score was like that Morcombe and Wise sketch. “All the right notes, just not in the right order.”
Lot of cross pollination there I’m sure, between fans of Robocop and Morcombe and Wise 😒
robocop 3 i like the movie
Is it weird I like this film?
one of my favourties from my childhood. The part with the jetpack is so badass
I do too because of nostalgia.
You've gone war wacky!
Would be nice if they remaster robocop vs Terminator lol
Love you two doing commentaries. Can’t wait for terminator genisys!
Thanks buddy!
I'm sorry but citation VERY much needed for Oliver's ridiculous claim that Peter Weller voiced RoboCop saying "Excellent" in the 16-bit Robocop vs Terminator game. That claim reeks of BS.
Oh crap I guess I should finally get around to watching this for the first time before listening to the commentary. 😆
Another film that had its release delayed
due to Orion Pictures' financial woes
(much like *"RoboCop 3")* was the cult-
classic film: *"CLIFFORD"* starring
Martin Short (literally playing a 10-year-
old child while he was close to 40),
Charles Grodin, Mary Steenburgen, and
Dabney Coleman.
It was originally filmed in 1990 and
set to be released in Summer 1991,
but it wouldn't be released until
April 1, 1994. Also during that time,
the film went through reshoots
in 1993 and added the wraparound
(which is set in the future year of
2050 with an elderly Clifford and
a troubled kid played by Ben Savage).
I need the Murder She Wrote shout outs for every commentary!
I love the disdain in robs voice when he says “family audience” 😂
I LOVE ROBOCOP 3
I still love and enjoy this movie and it's way better than 2
You kept mentioning Phantom Menace, so maybe you could do a new set of commentaries on the PT? Or is it too much of a dodgy subject, doing a commentary on a train wreck that has so many fanatical followers?
I don't like to admit it, but I PAID to see this in the theater.
I’d buy that for a dollar!
legend, i love this movie
You should have gone twice... maybe we would have RoboCop 4 today. 🤪
@@jonathanpratte1988 We did have Robocop Prime Directives.
4 of them.
They weren't good either... though they do have their moments. Murphy is allowed to emote for instance.
Actualy the guy who playes the gas station clerc played in RoboCop 2 another role. He’s name is Garry Bullock and he played the doctor who cut open oficer Duffy in front of the Cain’s gang.
Sorry, what gas station clerk?
@@VenusHeadTrap2 at the scene where the ninja obtaines the map ..
👍👍👍🎥
Part 3 is my favorite.
If you have a problem with Robert Burke's voice, there is a fan edit out there called The Weller Cut the replaced his voice and face with Peter Weller.
Weller dubbed it or it's an impersonator?
@@jonathanpratte1988 I believe it's A.I voice cloning and sound bytes from RoboCop: Rogue City.
Great, now all they have to do is fix the cheap special effects then rewrite and reshoot the entire movie!
_"What, you gone WAR WACKY?"_
So Robocop 2014 next? Cause I can't think of a more forgettable remake considering the lengthy development going from Darren Aronofsky to the director of elite squad who wanted a real R rated movie but was forced into PG 13
This movie beyond redeemable. Its so awful.
This film should have been gritty like part 1.
It was a different era. You couldn’t have made money on a movie like that in the nineties. The first one was x-rated!
@@TheDarkHour684 The 90's had Seven and The Silence of the Lambs so it could have been done!!!
Robocop 3 was another in a lasting Hollywood tradition of making sequels and/or remakes to Paul Verhoeven movies without ever bothering to understand what made those movies work.
See also Starship Troopers and Total Recall.
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In time I learn to like Robocop 3, at least keep some of the aesthetic and satire of 1 and 2. Make up the tone down over the top violence, something the reboot had.
Oh man, this movie is hot dogsh*t :D :D :D
I watched it about a year after it came out, hated it... and revisited it about 2 years ago.
It's sooooo bad.
The remake is worse though.
This movie is a masterpiece compared to the remake
Please look at The Omen franchise.
He already did
A movie that was doomed almost by default. Robocop 2 was flawed but salvageable. Robocop 3 is just too disappointing.
If nothing else, Robocop 2 - the actual robot - is among the best if not the best stop-motion effect in a movie.
Robocop 3 has weird unpainted kabuki mask ninjas.
I like the movie but as a sequel to Robocop 1 and 2… yeah, it isn’t great. Much like the remake, as a standalone movie I do enjoy them both… I try to separate Robocop 1 and 2 from 3 and it’s remake.
An actual bad movie in the Bad Movie Bible. Sorry, I'm still sour at your Alien³ commentary. Still love your channel though!
We saw this when I was little and thought to myself. This a really boring film. The only the thing that caught my attn was the ed-209 cameo. Then when Robo says call me RoboCop. It to me defeated the narrative of the first film.
To be fair, that was a gag.
The line "My friends call me Murphy, _you_ call me Robocop." was just kicking the comically incompetent CEO when he was down.
@zephyr8072 still. If he's self aware, he wouldn't refer to himself as a product. But ur right. Im overthinking.
I like this movie.
I've seen worse!
The biggest mistake of Robocop 3. it wasnt a robocop movie.
You need satire. you need to mock society at it's worst predicted yet functional future, and you need to display inhumane corporate behavior trying to ignore the human needs of the consumer and employees.
Let me tell you how you fix that.
Robocop 3. Dead to Rights.
China has taken a stranglehold on OCP's Detroit city and the Triad is now in control. Robocop and his police precinct are now under control by a older disgruntled police chief dispatched specially to oversee dealing with the Triad. It's Mel Gibson.
(its instantly already a betterilm. truly to be a good film. just give Mel Gibson the ability to edit everything on the fly and adapt to what he says.)
OCP meanwhile is dealing with Triad leaders in a discrete meeting, when the Triad surprises OCP (who has a number of ED209's as guards on the venue and a new mechanical robot that is sleeker. But the Triad have adapted with power armored thugs and electro swords that can cut through the ED209's limbs and leave it useless on the ground. Meanwhile the sexy Tang Wei, the female dominatrix amid the leadership of the Triad moves to finalize negotiations with the OCP leaders trying to work out a shared power, or to kick the Triad out. A few losses of some heads later, and it seems a new CEO for the OCP is taking power, one who is also marrying Tang Wei, to consolidate his happy feelings. he is very nervous but goes on with the Triad's orders.
The elimination of jobs from New Detroit's citizens to chinese immigrants starts to happen and more people lose housing and are homeless.
The disgruntled masses resort to crime, and Chief Gibson soon has his hands full. That's when he gets an idea. A sting operation. Using his best resources he pulls in some members of the ATF to go under cover and purchase a large number of materials from the OCP who are selling it under orders from the Triad to make more money.
This leads to a nasty standoff when they try to arrest the OCP leadership and investigate that Tang Wei leads a squad of Triad into taking them on.
The evidence is quickly uploaded to the network but the ATF are for once outgunned and outnumbered and find themselves running down the streets from reprogrammed ED-209s with Chinese martial arts masters lurking in the shadows to help clear the way.
That's when the unexpected happens. a mob of former detroit citizens form and actually attack the ED-209s and Triad members. its a blood bath, the ED-209s are cutting through a lot of people, and inadvertently kill several Triad members, but the mod does put them down, and they eliminate most of the Triad, but a few get away to warn their boss, while the surviving ATF are grateful and promise to clean up New Detroit and OCP for them. They say "good. and get rid of the ED-209's. Those are jobs we can fill from now on."
The we hit roughly the half way mark and the Triad decides its time not only to take on a larger ATF task force coming, but to break the people of New Detroit.
Meanwhile robocop has been busy, behind the people of detroit, he has been among them, rallying them, a general to inspire, and help them actually survive when attacking the ED-209's. His presence that of a silver clad mechanical cowboy. And the Triad has taken notice of him too.
Tang Wei unleashes several special OCP weapons just to take down robocop, for some maintenance.
It gets pretty nasty and the fierce battle is going to end robocop except for one thing, Chief Gibson did not give permission for OCP robots to be operating in the city, and he has acquired enough hardware to put them down as they are cornering and beating down robocop. The Triad comes right after Chief Gibson and robocop, but the people of New Detroit have been watching, a newsman has been broadcasting events and everyone gathering around the events, just like in Deathwash 3 i believe.
The movie climaxes as as Tang Wei comes directly into battle leading the final Triad remnant in taking out the police station Chief Gibson and robocop are at, getting robocop repaired.
In a damaged state robocop must help defend his fellow humans in blue, and Gibson is no where to be seen, when he suddenly emerges in a massive mechanical walking machine and takes on the OCP's robotic menaces directly, while a ATF raid at OCP headquarters leads to the mainframe being forcibly shut down eventually. but will it be done in time to save Gibson and robocop?
On the movie finale only will we find out.
it still needs satire and paul verhoevens amazing slanted view to make it stand out. and hilarious tv spots and news commercials. and lets be honest. at some point they need to feature attempts by commercials to encourage people to get sex change operations as if its perfectly normal and everything will be fine for them afterwards. as easy as taking out the trash with no consequences. uhh maybe have a actual family to have the point of view from, but they are immigrants from asia and have a direct understanding of the danger of the triad and are just trying not to get caught up, while totally getting caught up and maybe robocop has to save them repeatedly early on from the triad threatening or abducting them along with others. maybe the triad running a slave shop out of a school and literally forcing kids to work for less then minimum wage. then some homeless person who lost their job cracks at least they have work. dark and satyric. the full way.
The real robocop 3 for me will always be RoboCop the last stand.
This was not the place to post your master’s thesis
1:01:56 Thud. Thud. Thud. That sound is really annoying