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  • Опубликовано: 31 дек 2023
  • Rob Hill joins Oliver Harper to discuss, Bloodsport!
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  • @TheWhatMan80
    @TheWhatMan80 6 месяцев назад +22

    Bloodsport is in my top five for most watched movies. I've easily watched this over 100 times in the last 34 years

    • @leehustlewest6219
      @leehustlewest6219 6 месяцев назад +4

      More than that as he say Bolo Yueng "you break my record!" "I break you!" When he see Bolo on the train had me lol spasin now before as a kid I didn't get it I get it now 😅

    • @alexbaum2204
      @alexbaum2204 6 месяцев назад +1

      This, Predator, the Big Lebowski, and Platoon. These films make up a stupid percentage of my movie watching time over my last 42 years. And I would say between this and Predator, two most rewatchable movies ever. You can come into the film at any time, sit down, have a laugh, and enjoy the hell out of it.
      As for Van Damme movies, I really don’t see a reason to even talk about any of the others. He could have stopped here and I would still have considered him a legend. Best martial arts movie out there. That may be taboo to say in light of every Bruce Lee movie and a bunch of Jackie Chan flicks. But I really do think it’s the best.

    • @ArtVandelayOfficial
      @ArtVandelayOfficial 6 месяцев назад +1

      Same bro
      We used to watch it weekly 😂

  • @sierradelta6524
    @sierradelta6524 Месяц назад +3

    This was a great video, guys! Thank you! For anyone interested, Napolean Blownapart here on youtube has a great video on Frank Dux.

  • @giano427
    @giano427 6 месяцев назад +6

    I could watch this movie a dozen times and not get tired of it. The soundtrack really compliments the movie.

    • @james87367
      @james87367 5 дней назад

      Gorgeous soundtrack.

  • @james87367
    @james87367 5 дней назад

    There will be no one like Van Damme again. He was the perfect action star. He had an incredible physic. His fight scenes are among the best I've ever seen. Those kicks look like they could take your head off! Everyone talks about Stallone and Arnie but Van Damme was always my favourite action star. I must have seen his films 1000s of times over the dacades. Bloodsport sits comfortably in my top 10 films of all time. It looks gorgeous in 4k also.

  • @-Evil-Genius-
    @-Evil-Genius- 6 месяцев назад +1

    🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
    00:01 🎬 *Introduction and Background*
    - Rob Hill and Oliver Harper excitedly discuss their love for the movie Bloodsport.
    - Bloodsport holds a special place in their childhood as a seminal action film.
    01:59 🤔 *Van Damme's Journey to Canon Films*
    - Discussion on how Van Damme got involved with Canon Films.
    - Varied accounts of the story behind Van Damme's audition for Canon Films.
    03:23 🕵️‍♂️ *The Mysterious Meeting with Cannon Studios*
    - Different versions of the story regarding Van Damme's first encounter with Monahan at Cannon Studios.
    - Speculation on the reasons behind the delay in releasing Bloodsport.
    04:57 🌟 *Van Damme's Determination and Unconventional Methods*
    - Insights into Van Damme's intense desire to make it in Hollywood.
    - Anecdotes about Van Damme's attempts to climb over Chuck Norris's wall and his encounter with Bill Wallace.
    06:43 🥷 *Van Damme's Stint in Predator and Stunt Performer Roles*
    - Van Damme's involvement as a stunt performer in Predator.
    - Contradictory accounts and evolving stories about how Van Damme was hired and fired from Predator.
    08:25 🥋 *Van Damme's Martial Arts Style and Contribution to Martial Arts Movies*
    - Discussion on the difference between real-life fighting and martial arts on film.
    - Van Damme's unique selling points: athleticism, flexibility, and impressive kicks.
    09:49 🏆 *Bloodsport as the First True Martial Arts Tournament Movie*
    - Comparison with other martial arts films and the distinction of Bloodsport as a tournament-focused movie.
    - The significance of the Kumite tournament in the movie's narrative.
    11:39 🩸 *Frank Dux's Tournament Claims and Bloodsport's Origins*
    - Frank Dux's claims about a secret, bloody tournament in Hong Kong, as mentioned in Black Belt Magazine.
    - Skepticism and critical analysis of Frank Dux's tournament story.
    14:08 🎭 *Sheldon Lettich's Influence on Van Damme's Acting*
    - Sheldon Lettich's role in bringing out the best in Van Damme as a writer and collaborator.
    - The success of films like AWOL and Double Impact as examples of Van Damme's effective performances.
    17:21 🎵 *Appreciation for Paul Herzog's Score*
    - Praise for Paul Herzog's score in Bloodsport and Kickboxer.
    - Recognition of Herzog's contribution to the film's atmosphere and impact.
    18:31 🧐 *Opening Sequence Critique*
    - Commentary on the unusual opening sequence with flashbacks and training montage.
    - The absence of action in the initial part of the film and its focus on character building.
    20:35 🎬 *Insight into Bloodsport's Filming Duration*
    - Revelation of Bloodsport's surprisingly short 42-day shooting schedule.
    - Speculation on the use of a Hong Kong crew for fight scenes and the participation of Hong Kong stuntmen.
    21:04 🎬 *Fight Scene Shooting in Hong Kong*
    - Fight scenes in Hong Kong are meticulously shot, spending days on each scene.
    22:40 🤣 *Humor in Bloodsport*
    - The humor in Bloodsport is subtle and effective, with Van Dam's expressions and witty lines.
    23:47 🥋 *Donald Gibb and Jackson's Character*
    - Donald Gibb, who plays Jackson, was known for his comedic muscle roles in films.
    - Jackson represents the lovable, less skilled but strong American archetype.
    24:55 🌏 *Filming in Hong Kong's Walled City*
    - Bloodsport is one of the only Western movies shot in Hong Kong's Walled City, showcasing its unique history.
    - Deals with the Triads were likely made for the production to shoot in such locations.
    26:30 🎥 *Newt Arnold's Contributions*
    - Newt Arnold, the assistant director, played a crucial role in saving Bloodsport.
    - Arnold had a significant career, contributing to iconic films like The Godfather Part II and Blade Runner.
    27:50 🎬 *Editing Challenges and Delays*
    - Bloodsport faced challenges with its initial edit, leading to a delay in its release.
    - Van Dam and editor Michael J. Duthie played key roles in re-editing the movie and salvaging it.
    29:23 🎭 *Theatrical Struggles and DIY Distribution*
    - Van Dam and Michael KY took Bloodsport to film festivals in Europe for distribution after initial disinterest.
    - The first two deals were made by Van Dam and his childhood friend, showcasing their determination.
    30:37 🥷 *Frank Dux and Martial Arts Fantasies*
    - Frank Dux's martial arts claims, like breaking bricks, were likely exaggerated.
    - Dux falls into the category of individuals creating fake martial arts personas.
    32:05 🌐 *Martial Arts Myths and Exposing Fakes*
    - The '70s saw a rise in bogus martial arts schools, impacting the reputation of genuine martial artists.
    - RUclips now plays a role in exposing fake martial arts masters and their exaggerated claims.
    34:27 🎞️ *Frank Dux's Cinematic Stories*
    - Frank Dux's stories, like being hired by the CIA and rescuing orphans, sound more like Hollywood scripts than reality.
    - Dux's tales often involve extraordinary missions, adding a layer of fantasy to his narrative.
    36:05 🔊 *Sound Mix Anomalies*
    - Bloodsport's sound mix includes a mysterious cat meowing, becoming a quirky detail in the film.
    - Sound mix oddities, like the cat meowing, can sometimes become unintended highlights.
    37:55 🎲 *Betting and Distinct Martial Arts Styles*
    - Bloodsport features clear distinctions in martial arts styles, resembling video game character selections.
    - The betting aspect adds intensity to the fights, emphasizing the diverse skills of each fighter.
    41:22 🔄 *Homage to Bruce Lee in Bloodsport*
    - Bloodsport pays homage to Bruce Lee, incorporating references, camera angles, and iconic lines from Enter the Dragon.
    - Bolo Yeung's character mirrors his role in Enter the Dragon, adding a nostalgic touch to Bloodsport.
    42:47 🎬 *Van Damme's Impact on Scott Adkins*
    - Scott Adkins, a huge fan of Van Damme, was inspired by him and became a skilled martial artist.
    43:55 🎭 *Van Damme's Influence and Super Fans*
    - Van Damme's influence on martial artists, like Scott Adkins, is highlighted.
    44:37 🎙️ *Host James P Bennett and His Martial Arts Career*
    - The host of the commentary, James P Bennett, is introduced as an Irish martial artist and actor.
    46:16 🌐 *Connections Between Actors and Van Damme's Films*
    - Various actors from "Bloodsport" have connections to other Van Damme films like "The Quest" and "Death Warrant."
    47:31 🤹 *Well-Balanced Characters and Humor*
    - The commentary appreciates the well-conceived and balanced characters in "Bloodsport."
    48:13 🥋 *Distinct Martial Arts Styles and Clear Characterization*
    - The film's success in clearly defining each competitor's martial arts style, despite potential confusion, is acknowledged.
    49:20 🎥 *Behind-the-Scenes Anecdotes and Van Damme's Skills*
    - Anecdotes about Van Damme's unexpected actions during filming, like grabbing a woman in a boat scene, are shared.
    50:44 🇯🇵 *Bloodsport's Japanese Influence*
    - The commentary reveals that "Bloodsport" was initially meant to be shot in Japan, explaining the Japanese elements in the film.
    52:36 🎼 *Romantic Elements and Van Damme's Acting*
    - The romantic melody and the inclusion of a love interest in "Bloodsport" are acknowledged.
    57:43 🤔 *Questionable Plot Elements and Character Motivations*
    - The commentary critiques the somewhat questionable plot element of the reporter taking notes during secret fights.
    01:03:40 💪 *Intensity of the Final Fight and Raised Platform*
    - The raised stage platform is recognized for providing unique opportunities for camera angles in the final fight.
    01:05:32 🎭 *Film Background and Shidoshi Motivation*
    - Shidoshi motivation drives the protagonist's actions.
    - Appreciation for the scenic view at Victoria Peak.
    01:09:25 💼 *Characters Development and Perfect Establishments*
    - Characters established with the right amount of screen time.
    01:13:38 🤕 *Blood and the Best Fight Scene*
    - Notable details about the fight scene against Chong Li.
    01:19:23 📀 *Bloodsport Remaster and Film Evolution*
    - Praise for the recent 4K remaster of Bloodsport.
    01:24:04 😂 *Martial Arts Fantasy and Meme Potential*
    - Discussion on the film's appeal as a martial arts and hero fantasy.
    01:26:54 🕺 *Influence on Flexibility and High Kicks*
    - Personal anecdotes about attempting to emulate Van Damme's high kicks.
    01:27:07 🥋 *Van Damme's Impact on Hong Kong Action Films*
    - Discussion on Van Damme's influence on Hong Kong action movies.
    01:28:02 🎬 *Van Damme's Evolution in Martial Arts Films*
    - Recognition of Van Damme's evolving martial arts skills in films.
    01:29:17 🤩 *Falling in and out of Van Damme Fandom*
    - Personal experience of transitioning from a hardcore Van Damme fan to exploring other martial arts genres.
    01:30:01 📊 *Examination of Frank Dux's Bogus Records*
    - Critique of the fictitious records presented in "Bloodsport" attributed to Frank Dux.
    01:32:05 🥋 *Van Damme's Naivety and Association with Frank Dux*
    - Recognition of Van Damme's naivety in accepting Frank Dux's claims.
    01:33:42 🌟 *"Bloodsport" as a Canon Classic*
    - Final thoughts on "Bloodsport" as a highly influential and classic Canon film.
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  • @BansheeEnt
    @BansheeEnt 6 месяцев назад +2

    Another great commentary from you both. I'm now off to watch Fatal Deviation!! 😂

  • @chriswilson3126
    @chriswilson3126 5 месяцев назад

    This was great! Nice to hear you guys shoutout Jimmy Bennett and Viking Samurai

  • @harald-albert8303
    @harald-albert8303 5 месяцев назад

    Keep em coming this is so great

  • @teigannyman196
    @teigannyman196 6 месяцев назад +7

    Can you do a commentary for Road House?

  • @Derekconlon
    @Derekconlon 6 месяцев назад +3

    Two of my favourite RUclipsrs commentary on one of my favourite films. A magic late Christmas present!

  • @darwinespinoza3440
    @darwinespinoza3440 6 месяцев назад

    I absolutely love this movie and I’m glad you guys did this commentary. I remember coming across this movie in Ecuador and watching it on VCD because we didn’t have a DVD player lol. I even started training because of this movie and would go on to make rice bags into punching bags with the soundtrack in the background.

    • @darwinespinoza3440
      @darwinespinoza3440 6 месяцев назад

      As far as motivation goes, I know Chun Li messed up Jackson but I always thought in my head canon that Chun Li was the one who defeated and killed Shin-go. I don’t know if that’s true or not but I thought that was the story when I was younger. And what happens to his shidoshi? I thought he died after he saw him but it’s never explained what illness he was sick from cuz he didn’t look as old as the movie was making him out to be.

  • @Dkkm10
    @Dkkm10 6 месяцев назад +3

    Man I literally just watched this movie two weeks ago. Good timing!

  • @brewesharp3129
    @brewesharp3129 6 месяцев назад +1

    I learned of Jimmy Bennet thanks to OSW!

    • @markant9534
      @markant9534 6 месяцев назад +1

      Love to hear OSW do a review of bloodsport, it would be funny as hell.

  • @BILLEON2005
    @BILLEON2005 6 месяцев назад

    I was fortunate to see this movie in the theater!

  • @maniacsatwork
    @maniacsatwork 6 месяцев назад

    My fav martial arts movie and I have the incredible soundtrack on vinyl by Waxwork Records. I have the VHS, DVD and Blu-ray editions.

  • @LoganWood121
    @LoganWood121 6 месяцев назад +1

    This is top tier in entertainment while being informative. Can't wait to see what you guys do next.

  • @markant9534
    @markant9534 6 месяцев назад

    Action icon Jean-Claude Van Damme was initially cast but ultimately fired from the 1987 sci-fi film "Predator" due to passing out from dehydration. Bill Duke, who portrayed the Predator, revealed this detail.

    • @Paul-sl9zm
      @Paul-sl9zm 6 месяцев назад +1

      Also, during the production of Predator, Van Damme was offered the role in Bloodsport. So he was very eager to leave the Predator set

  • @SpacedCobraIII
    @SpacedCobraIII 6 месяцев назад

    That's odd, my copy clearly says 56 with no cut-off. Well regardless, a very fun listen! I still find this Van Damme's most watchable movie.

  • @byronlaw6491
    @byronlaw6491 6 месяцев назад +1

    Fantastic commentary. The 4K disc is fantastic also I’d recommend it. In the latest Mortal Kombat what’s interesting is he’s not actually Van Damme he’s Johnny Cage as was originally intended.

  • @Weatherhamshire
    @Weatherhamshire 6 месяцев назад +1

    The best 'Street Fighter' movie so far.

  • @randu_d2855
    @randu_d2855 6 месяцев назад +2

    Great commentary 👍

  • @tagheuer001
    @tagheuer001 6 месяцев назад +1

    First! I remember when this movie came out and was available on those oversize satellites we all had back in the mid 90s. We used to call them dishes 🚀

  • @Pdotta1
    @Pdotta1 2 месяца назад

    “Lovable but a little bit stupid”?!? 😂 yeah. That’s us. USA 🇺🇸

  • @user-uh8ez6wm4r
    @user-uh8ez6wm4r 6 месяцев назад

    Kickboxer was the boss back in the day

  • @officialcoachdanny
    @officialcoachdanny 6 месяцев назад

    What a fantastic commentary, learned a few things during this video, well done guys, please do Superman IV 😁🙏

  • @bernardroth7200
    @bernardroth7200 Месяц назад

    I think they need to re-watch the interview from Viking samurai you're only telling a half-truth their bed bug guy

  • @alexisnaranjo
    @alexisnaranjo 6 месяцев назад

    A war took Senzo's first family he left for America to start again.... then he loses his second line to another war. Presumably Vietnam War. And he just is so destroyed by his legacy being lost that's when Frank says he will continue it for him

  • @pmf026
    @pmf026 5 месяцев назад

    You are neccs!

  • @tinomoreno21
    @tinomoreno21 5 месяцев назад

    ❤️💚💜💙

  • @dealt
    @dealt 6 месяцев назад +1

    I always picked up on that "cat noise" as you describe it. To me it sounds like an old lady cheering

  • @TheBeird
    @TheBeird 6 месяцев назад +1

    A genuinely wonderful film. No ironic enjoyment from me. I know you can point to hammy acting, or the low budget nature of it, or the fact it's based on the life of a habitual liar, but it's one of those films where everything comes together and is just so much fun.

  • @zZiL341yRj736
    @zZiL341yRj736 6 месяцев назад +2

    A great Mortal Kombat movie.

  • @harald-albert8303
    @harald-albert8303 5 месяцев назад

    Make kickboxer they made another kickboxer movie but the main character was not van damme

  • @retter2critical
    @retter2critical 6 месяцев назад +2

    I love the Orientalism, magic naive view of eastern culture from a western point of view. The training sequence, the blindfolded tea ceremony .. Genius.

  • @ryanricardo
    @ryanricardo 6 месяцев назад +1

    Definitely heard cat sounds lol

  • @harald-albert8303
    @harald-albert8303 6 месяцев назад +1

    Bloodsport was huge in Denmark. Kickboxer not so much.

    • @james87367
      @james87367 5 дней назад

      Both are incredible films

  • @harrychalcraft9711
    @harrychalcraft9711 5 месяцев назад

    OK USA

  • @markevayne
    @markevayne 6 месяцев назад

    We need 1993 Firepower with Gary Daniels now after this masterpiece!

  • @kascnef
    @kascnef 6 месяцев назад +1

    Welcome to kumite

  • @leehustlewest6219
    @leehustlewest6219 6 месяцев назад +1

    Have you played Shaolin vs Wu-Tang yes it's a real game here the url up top

  • @imperialtutor8687
    @imperialtutor8687 6 месяцев назад +3

    Ironically if van damme or frank dux were legit martial artists is utterly irrelevant at this point because all the George st pierres, and other ufc champs who grew up in the 80’s/90s were all inspired by van damme movies. Blood sport basically is the genesis of creating a huge interest in martial arts in the western world(I am aware dojo’s existed, Bruce Lee already inspired the whole world) but blood sports showed the kumite and basically created that whole fascination with cage fighting. Also it hugely inspired western stuntmen like Scott Adkins to become martial artists and stuntmen themselves, remember the Jackie Chan movies and the likes were at first hard to watch in the west but blood sports certainly helped fascilitate that interest.

  • @nicknewman7848
    @nicknewman7848 6 месяцев назад

    Imagine not being able to get in the door at Cannon and trying to make friends with Chuck Norris by climbing over his fence😂 Fair do's to him though.. he did have great balance, delusional self belief and a massive ego. Only in America right? After you've tried everywhere else for a decade obviously😂 He still seems like Gary Oldman compared to Seagal on the acting front though. Seagal is ironically a more legit fighter/bully/twat. In a parallel universe they teamed up for a second rate early 90's buddy cop movie.. like Tango and Cash but worse. How did that never happen? It would have been potentially equally awesome and horrible.

  • @LeoHoxtonI
    @LeoHoxtonI 6 месяцев назад +1

    The first 10 minutes are so badly written and hamfisted.lol