If you go back more than 2 or 3 years when you get to me, it doesn't count. I was extra dumb back then. I also constantly tell my audience I'm an idiot, so it's their own fault if they listen to me.
Thank you Erik. As a seasoned gunsmith and precision hand loader I fully agree with your methods. Many hours of testing have taught me what works and what steps matter in your prep and assembly. I'm not nearly as OCD as I once was! Also loved the video on "chasing the lands"! Keep up the great vids!
I have been reloading for more than 40 years. I had to figure a lot of this stuff you're talking about on my own. Back then there was no RUclips to help a guy out. I could only read the little that was out there and figure the rest out with experimentation. After 40 years of reloading I'm still picking things up and I don't think any of us will ever know it all. I am thankful for all you who put things on RUclips to help others. I don't always agree with everything that's said but if I can pick up a tidbit I do agree with and it helps me be a better reloader I'm happy. So thanks again to all of you who share your knowledge.
Outstanding comment with a refreshing attitude . . . all I can say is . . . ''DITTO''. Chris - "After 40 years of reloading I'm still picking things up and I don't think any of us will ever know it all." is true 'Wisdom'...keeping an open mind and having the willingness to 'experiment' & document the empirical evidence is everything. Whether it proves you right or wrong is not the bottom line...it is the fact that you learned something. . . . . charlie
Chris Outdoors Thumbs up for that! Close to 40 years for me as well. Matter-of-fact, been reloading for almost as long as I've been subscribed to Shooting Times and Handloader magazines. 😃
Yeah, I’m going on 50+ reloading since I started in ‘68 and am old school at neck sizing but after seeing Erik’s video on FL and bullet seating it changed my ways after improving my groups from .38MOA to .28MOA and often smaller. I take what Erik says to the bank...... you can teach on old dog new tricks
I have been reloading for 30 years and always felt that if I stop learning I am going to stop reloading because that’s when mistakes can happen more often complacency gets people hurt you can ask 100 people how they do a task and will get 100 different ways but some are more effective and wear less on equipment
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22:45 I only found your channel a week ago. It is very humbling to know that there's a person out there that is as busy as you are that is willing to give up a substantial amount of his time to try and help out whoever is willing to watch and listen. The fact that you're one of the very top long range shooters in the country if not the world makes this even more amazing. God bless you and may all your groups be small and centered.
Quote of the day! "Feel isn't a measurement!" With your permission I will be using that quote with my highschool science students when we go over quality of arguments /evidence.
Erik...you and Eagle Eye both have good points. Thank You! I've even seen him go against his previous videos, after learning that what he thought, wasn't actually the best way of dong things. We are thankful, for all experiments, that you guys perform, with weapons. Thank You!
@@user-yr1dp7kr8g yes!!! I just saw this video yesterday and even before all the movement in his die I was like get rid of those fing cheap ass calipers and take real measurements
Erik, you are spot on. Looks like the shoulder variation is there because the die to g is not tight. I'm only 51 but have loaded for over 36 yrs and was of the old era of neck sizing. I was bushing neck sizing with the occasional fliers I could never pin down. I found your post with the F-Class and bench shooters and it opened my eyes. I tried full length bump sizing and bushing sizing necks. With my 40X 308 shooting from a bag, I just shot a 0.030" spread 4-shot group at 100yds, the best I've ever shot. Fun is factory other than being bedded. I'm sold and am trying it with all my other calibers. If you've some anything, you've at least helped me. Thanks!
I'm so glad you noticed that die moving! That was going to burn a hole in my soul if that wasn't talked about. I would bet the majority of his deviation is coming from that die moving around so much. Great video and thank you for not trashing the guy. I'm sure his heart is in the right place.
I've become a big fan of Eric's and am learning a lot by his guidance. I really appreciate his approach to this guy, giving him respect but correcting his errors. Good job Eric.
@Erik Cortina all the way from South Africa. Thanks for this. Using your method and not only improved group size but man makes your life 100 times easier!!!!
First time I saw the video from "Eagle Eye" I thought the guy was being too casual about this whole "feel thing." The FIRST tool I bought when starting to load for 6.5PRC was the comparator. 0.002 "bump" is a real thing that can be measured and can be achieved repeatedly. Now if I could only reduce my coffee consumption, I'm sure my groups would really tighten up!
@ 9:51 i just spotted the problem. he's using a harbor fraught digital caliper. thats why he's got variance all over the place. the problem's not the brass its the cheap shitty chicom digital caliper.
Let’s grow this channel guys. Erik has a proven track record and nothing he will share is hearsay, speculation or copied from another channel. What he does in the reloading room and behind the rifle elevated him to the top of this game. This is what our sport need! I am not a social media warrior but I’m all in to incentivize him to create content, that can be trusted.
I bump size using the Redding “Competition” Shell Holders because that allows me to get full contact on the shell holder when pull handle on my rockchucker. And I of course use my comparator to measure everything. That said, I will certainly want to see how you bump size because I am always very interested in learning good ideas. Thank you for this video commentary!!
Can of Beans that’s a bummer your Shellholders weren’t correct. Mine are correct but thank you. I can only suggest contacting Redding because they do have typical lifetime warranty. Good luck to you
I just measured my Redding “Competition” shell holders with my Mitutoyu dial type caliper. Measurements were from bearing surface for base of brass - to bearing surface contacting press piston. My measurements seem exactly what they are supposed to be. Standard 0.125” + 002: 0.123” + 004: 0.121” + 006: 0.119” + 008: 0.117” + 010: 0.115” For my 308 Forster “Benchrest” full length sizing die and for my 308 factory rifle, I use the +008 holder to get a bump measuring typically between 0.001” and 0.002”
Biggest issue with his test, his extractor and firing pin are still in the bolt body. He is not feeling the case, he is feeling the resistance of the firing pin and the extractor pressing on the back of the case. He is using a Thompson Centre rifle which activates the firing pin when opening the bolt. This is besides everything else he spoke about. I have seen this method used before correctly and it is done correctly, the bump is usually 1 - 2 thou anyway.
Keep them coming Mr.Cortina. I have been reloading about 10 years for hunting applications, but I love shooting groups in the off season. The smaller the better, (Thats not what she said)
Erik first off please release more videos. Thank you for helping all of us out by sharing your knowledge! I have found at .002” shoulder bump if you strip your bolt you will get a nice smooth chamber with little to no resistance. It’s more of a Precision fit that he is trying to describe except you have a measurement to reference to to repeat time and time again.
I don't shoot competitively, but I demand the best accuracy from the rifles I use for varmint hunting that I can get. One hole groups at 100 yards is pretty good, under
Great Detective work on EES video. I gained more respect for you through your character in this video than your knowledge. Keep up the good work and the manner you present your content. We don’t need to see you degrade another YTuber for entertainment as others may suggest, we come to you bc we want to be educated in a professional manner. Thank you for having integrity and keeping your channel “family-friendly” so other younger shooters can watch without cringing. 👍🏼😀
I've tried both methods and they both provide good enough accuracy for me, 1 MOA or better, but I definitely prefer the .002" shoulder bump. Some of my dies using standard shell holders don't let me bump the shoulder but full length resizing almost always gives me the same results, 1 MOA or better, which is no longer an especially high standard. So I if I can't readily and easily bump the shoulder I don't care. Great vid as usual. I really like Erik's attitude, and always have.
Master Yoda, there is no feel. There is only measure! I'd like to see the Eric "Yoda" Cortina t shirt. I can't wait for your next video. Thanks so much!
A great video and many lessons learned. Having said that, I can tell from how the sizing lube was applied to his brass why his bump numbers are erratic- lube is on the shoulder and that’s causing the inconsistency. Lube the neck and the baby, never the shoulder, keep it dry for better results.
Nice video. I liked that you linked in that short clip of David Tubb from the Long Range Shooters of Utah channel. When it came up, I thought, 'Hey, I've seen that video".
I watched some of his videos and they had me itching my head. Thanks for the response video to ease my confusion (I like to think I'm always learning but don't want to go about it wrong either).
Love your videos would really like to see a start to finish load video from brass prep to seating bullets and some groups I know you got those tight lil big holes share that knowledge brother I’ll keep watching
I’ve been bumping shoulders back 2 thousands for years now. I use Redding type s fl bushing dies on my long rage and hunting rifles and it’s never felled me yet. Look forward to the next video Erik.
Brother, I'm binging your videos. Basically a meat hunter and lover of firearms. Hobby reloader with an emphasis on accuracy. I reload for several different hunting rifles and pistols made for different jobs from single shots to revolvers to automatics. Keep doing what you do. You're gonna have a million subs before you know it. Thank you for the videos.
@ 3:53 smashes all neck sizing arguments out of the park. FL sizing also insures uniformity and less runout (not with a bushing die). and .002" is less than one third of a thickness of a sheet of paper.
Would love to see a video of your reloading process, the equipment you use, and why you use that particular equipment/what advantage comes from special equipment. Your smallest group video showing the CPS, hydro press and Prometheus has me intrigued.
I saw a video not long ago where two old school lumberjack's had a competition about who's chainsaw was sharper and more effective. Both were much better than a factory chain, but one was A LOT better than the other. They both had been sharpening saws a long time too. Beware of the guy that thinks he has nothing left to learn.
No where in the video did I ever see TWO WRENCHES to tighten the jam nut securely while holding the die in position. Not by the press, not behind the guy, not left of the chair, not on the shelf under the loader, not one the tray below the table. I can't remember ever adjusting a die without having wrenches out from start to until after a final test with everything fully tightened - and this is on a progressive with replaceable plates. If I had a single stage those wrenches would live in a purpose made holder directly on or under or the press. I wonder if he's hand tightening dies to get that wobble and 30 thou variance? (In the accuracy video a year later wrenches are out, I guess he learned!)
He has the hornady lock and load collet setup on his press. I had similar issues with sizing cases on my press with that hornady kit. Since then I've gone back to the standard thread and die itself and have had no issues I'm consistently bumping my shoulders back .002. I also use the mec marksman press
I just found your other channel today. I really enjoy your business one. I really don’t know anything about guns, but I will totally agree with you on feel is no measurement. Also if I really be concerned with accuracy I might not buy my measuring devices at Harbor Freight. The old adage of you get what you pay for comes to mind. I’m a heavy equipment mechanic by trade and on older equipment close enough was good enough. I can use a business card to set the ring and pinion gear in a final drive and it feels good or I can use a dial indicator to measure the gear lash to verify.
Thanks, Erik. You are very generous to share your knowledge, experience, and time with the shooting community on YT. More info is always better, and every viewer will decide for himself what he wants to do. But "to get my results, you've got to do what I do" is still true. Showing on-target results with valid group sizes (5, 10, or 20 shots) is "proof" enough.
To his credit Eagle Eye Shooting put it out there. What makes this a learning experience is that we learned there is more than one way to do it. But using a measurement instead of "feel" will bring repeatability and better understanding. So that is the way I am going.
Hello from Australia! One point Eric for your subscribers and people new to precision loading to maybe consider: Correct and consistent use of callipers in a repetitive or "production-line" type process such as hand-loading relies on consistent pressure or "feel" on the closing force of the callipers. Unless you are using the tension ratchet feature found on some precision measuring tools (like some vernier-scale micrometers for example {and even these features have their problems such as the need for perfect axial alignment of the part being measured to the anvil and spindle of the micrometer}), the variability of "feel" is not removed from the process of measurement. I use the same "shoulder set-back technique as Eric (but with not as much shooting skill) with good results as do many others. I would hope that people don't get the idea that if you put a set of vernier callipers into the hands of an untrained user, the problem of the inconsistency of feel goes away. It's easy to muscle a difference of several thousandths into your calliper measurement with your thumb. Using callipers is a skill very much incorporating feel and improving with attention and practice. I take it for granted because of 30 years of practice with precision measuring tools but watching this reminded me that in the beginning, I needed to be taught about feel. Stay safe and thank you for taking the time to teach us! You are an inspiration! Luke.
Holy crap. I’ve been subbed to this channel for a long time and this notification just popped up and I realized who you are 😂 only been subbed to Texas Barndominiums since you started working with Matt!
Thanks for the heads up brother,one the 7,62-39 is a bad choice for the test for one,but that's me,I think Erik will get us to the right way.iam not mad at Eagle eye he may need to watch Erik.
I'll bet Kenny can afford any brand of calipers he wants now , dude is a artist. And Mr. Cortina, you sir are a living legend ,thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge
Hello my Friend, I’m not new to handloading for accuracy, and I will watch your videos for more knowledge, because you put it down like it should be, thank you very much for all of your knowledge brother 👍🏼✌🏼
If you have a maximum chamber and you full lenth resize even just bumping the shoulder back .002 you will have . 002 of shoulder clearance but your body clearance will be much more. Neck sizing for the same bolt rifle is a pretty standard practice.
1st thing I noticed is the harbor freight calipers. Everything else is called into question when using bottom of the barrel equipment to take precision measurements
I noticed when Mr. Eye was mentioning primary extraction he was pointing at the cocking cam and the chamfer that pulls the bolt all the way forward. Primary extraction is what pulls the case out of the chamber. On a Remington 700 (not what he's showing but I think most bolt actions operate similarly in this regard) it is a small ramp at the at the rear of the receiver that the base of the bolt lever hits. He is correct that the chamfer on the bolt lug can force a cartridge into the chamber. Also it most certainly does not have hundreds of pounds of torque, at least in any conventional form of measurement. You probably have less than 25 inch pounds of torque on the bolt that will generate (I'm guessing a bit here) approximately 50 pounds of forward linear force (torque is rotational) moving the bolt closed.
When you spoke about his die moving at the 20.27 time period, I had been using the 6.5 guys recommendation of putting one of those rubber round seals on the bottom of my dies and it did this exactly. I couldn't get any consistent results on bumping my should back while using that green o-ring. Removed it and then it measured exactly the same for each case.
Erik, I love what you are doing with this second channel. HOWEVER.... Make sure you're enjoying yourself. Take your time. Do it the way you want. I am confident that if you are happy with the product you put out here, I will be.
CAN YOU DO a video “Showing” what equipment you have and use to reload with. Maybe a Affliate link to those products on your video description as another way to monetize your videos. Buying the same exact equipment you use will greatly increase the same results in reloading outcome for us I imagine. 👍🏼
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If you go back more than 2 or 3 years when you get to me, it doesn't count. I was extra dumb back then. I also constantly tell my audience I'm an idiot, so it's their own fault if they listen to me.
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Hahahha love you man. JRB is an entertainment channel, and one of the finest at that.
Even during your pubescent phase, 2 or 3 years ago, I learn more.
Thank you Johnny.
I’m gonna have to go checkout JRB. Reaction video coming up. 😁
Love your stuff brother!
Im so glad you just didn´t trash the guy totally. I was affraid you just would bully him to hell but you actually showed him some respect. Good job!!
Because the guy was not wrong. Why would you be "Afraid" its not about you. A bit dramatic to go over the top with worry.
@@Physics072 Shut up, Bob. Take a fourth grade English course sometime.
Thank you Erik. As a seasoned gunsmith and precision hand loader I fully agree with your methods. Many hours of testing have taught me what works and what steps matter in your prep and assembly. I'm not nearly as OCD as I once was! Also loved the video on "chasing the lands"! Keep up the great vids!
I have been reloading for more than 40 years. I had to figure a lot of this stuff you're talking about on my own. Back then there was no RUclips to help a guy out. I could only read the little that was out there and figure the rest out with experimentation. After 40 years of reloading I'm still picking things up and I don't think any of us will ever know it all. I am thankful for all you who put things on RUclips to help others. I don't always agree with everything that's said but if I can pick up a tidbit I do agree with and it helps me be a better reloader I'm happy. So thanks again to all of you who share your knowledge.
Outstanding comment with a refreshing attitude . . . all I can say is . . . ''DITTO''.
Chris - "After 40 years of reloading I'm still picking things up and I don't think any of us will ever know it all."
is true 'Wisdom'...keeping an open mind and having the willingness to 'experiment' & document the empirical evidence is everything. Whether it proves you right or wrong is not the bottom line...it is the fact that you learned something. . . . . charlie
Great commitment I enjoyed reading it thank you
Chris Outdoors Thumbs up for that! Close to 40 years for me as well. Matter-of-fact, been reloading for almost as long as I've been subscribed to Shooting Times and Handloader magazines. 😃
Yeah, I’m going on 50+ reloading since I started in ‘68 and am old school at neck sizing but after seeing Erik’s video on FL and bullet seating it changed my ways after improving my groups from .38MOA to .28MOA and often smaller. I take what Erik says to the bank...... you can teach on old dog new tricks
I have been reloading for 30 years and always felt that if I stop learning I am going to stop reloading because that’s when mistakes can happen more often complacency gets people hurt you can ask 100 people how they do a task and will get 100 different ways but some are more effective and wear less on equipment
22:45 I only found your channel a week ago. It is very humbling to know that there's a person out there that is as busy as you are that is willing to give up a substantial amount of his time to try and help out whoever is willing to watch and listen. The fact that you're one of the very top long range shooters in the country if not the world makes this even more amazing. God bless you and may all your groups be small and centered.
Notice the cracked brass when he was bumping them back! HAHAHA
Quote of the day! "Feel isn't a measurement!"
With your permission I will be using that quote with my highschool science students when we go over quality of arguments /evidence.
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Please do! Lol
@@ErikCortinayou need a shirt that says feeling is not a measurement
Erik...you and Eagle Eye both have good points. Thank You!
I've even seen him go against his previous videos, after learning that what he thought, wasn't actually the best way of dong things.
We are thankful, for all experiments, that you guys perform, with weapons.
Thank You!
"You can anneal it, it'll be fine."
I'm stealing that.
For everything messed up at work I'm using that phrase.
Anything I do that has to be perfect in every way, I use Harbor Freight tools...
Hahaaaaa😄
Exactly!! The equipment failure was his HF calipers.
@@user-yr1dp7kr8g yes!!! I just saw this video yesterday and even before all the movement in his die I was like get rid of those fing cheap ass calipers and take real measurements
Real precision demands using plastic Chinese vernier calipers!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Erik, you are spot on. Looks like the shoulder variation is there because the die to g is not tight.
I'm only 51 but have loaded for over 36 yrs and was of the old era of neck sizing. I was bushing neck sizing with the occasional fliers I could never pin down. I found your post with the F-Class and bench shooters and it opened my eyes. I tried full length bump sizing and bushing sizing necks. With my 40X 308 shooting from a bag, I just shot a 0.030" spread 4-shot group at 100yds, the best I've ever shot. Fun is factory other than being bedded. I'm sold and am trying it with all my other calibers. If you've some anything, you've at least helped me. Thanks!
I'm so glad you noticed that die moving! That was going to burn a hole in my soul if that wasn't talked about. I would bet the majority of his deviation is coming from that die moving around so much. Great video and thank you for not trashing the guy. I'm sure his heart is in the right place.
Eric, I am fairly new to reloading (less than 2 years). So, please keep them coming!!
All the best!
@6:19 same. never found concentricity to be a measurable factor in groups.
I've become a big fan of Eric's and am learning a lot by his guidance. I really appreciate his approach to this guy, giving him respect but correcting his errors. Good job Eric.
@Erik Cortina all the way from South Africa. Thanks for this. Using your method and not only improved group size but man makes your life 100 times easier!!!!
Thanks for taking the time to make this!!!! The reloading community needs more guys like you!
“Feel ain’t a measurement”.
Truer words have never been spoken!
@Common Logic 🤣🤣🤣that is a classic comment!!!!!!! Awesome!
Tell your wife that and let me know how it goes for you 😝
First time I saw the video from "Eagle Eye" I thought the guy was being too casual about this whole "feel thing." The FIRST tool I bought when starting to load for 6.5PRC was the comparator. 0.002 "bump" is a real thing that can be measured and can be achieved repeatedly. Now if I could only reduce my coffee consumption, I'm sure my groups would really tighten up!
@ 9:51 i just spotted the problem. he's using a harbor fraught digital caliper. thats why he's got variance all over the place. the problem's not the brass its the cheap shitty chicom digital caliper.
Let’s grow this channel guys. Erik has a proven track record and nothing he will share is hearsay, speculation or copied from another channel. What he does in the reloading room and behind the rifle elevated him to the top of this game. This is what our sport need! I am not a social media warrior but I’m all in to incentivize him to create content, that can be trusted.
Love kenny from desert precision. His builds are amazing
I bump size using the Redding “Competition” Shell Holders because that allows me to get full contact on the shell holder when pull handle on my rockchucker. And I of course use my comparator to measure everything.
That said, I will certainly want to see how you bump size because I am always very interested in learning good ideas. Thank you for this video commentary!!
Can of Beans that’s a bummer your Shellholders weren’t correct. Mine are correct but thank you. I can only suggest contacting Redding because they do have typical lifetime warranty. Good luck to you
I just measured my Redding “Competition” shell holders with my Mitutoyu dial type caliper. Measurements were from bearing surface for base of brass - to bearing surface contacting press piston. My measurements seem exactly what they are supposed to be.
Standard 0.125”
+ 002: 0.123”
+ 004: 0.121”
+ 006: 0.119”
+ 008: 0.117”
+ 010: 0.115”
For my 308 Forster “Benchrest” full length sizing die and for my 308 factory rifle, I use the +008 holder to get a bump measuring typically between 0.001” and 0.002”
Biggest issue with his test, his extractor and firing pin are still in the bolt body. He is not feeling the case, he is feeling the resistance of the firing pin and the extractor pressing on the back of the case. He is using a Thompson Centre rifle which activates the firing pin when opening the bolt. This is besides everything else he spoke about. I have seen this method used before correctly and it is done correctly, the bump is usually 1 - 2 thou anyway.
Keep them coming Mr.Cortina. I have been reloading about 10 years for hunting applications, but I love shooting groups in the off season. The smaller the better, (Thats not what she said)
Erik first off please release more videos. Thank you for helping all of us out by sharing your knowledge! I have found at .002” shoulder bump if you strip your bolt you will get a nice smooth chamber with little to no resistance. It’s more of a Precision fit that he is trying to describe except you have a measurement to reference to to repeat time and time again.
I don't shoot competitively, but I demand the best accuracy from the rifles I use for varmint hunting that I can get. One hole groups at 100 yards is pretty good, under
Damn dude. First time viewer. Highly impressed with your knowledge and that you didn't immediately call this guy a fool.
Great Detective work on EES video. I gained more respect for you through your character in this video than your knowledge. Keep up the good work and the manner you present your content. We don’t need to see you degrade another YTuber for entertainment as others may suggest, we come to you bc we want to be educated in a professional manner. Thank you for having integrity and keeping your channel “family-friendly” so other younger shooters can watch without cringing. 👍🏼😀
Thank you Eric for giving us all help, I find your honesty refreshing, your help invaluable
Thank you Erik, hopefully you have shown him the light. Alot of chuckles
I've tried both methods and they both provide good enough accuracy for me, 1 MOA or better, but I definitely prefer the .002" shoulder bump. Some of my dies using standard shell holders don't let me bump the shoulder but full length resizing almost always gives me the same results, 1 MOA or better, which is no longer an especially high standard. So I if I can't readily and easily bump the shoulder I don't care. Great vid as usual. I really like Erik's attitude, and always have.
Master Yoda, there is no feel. There is only measure! I'd like to see the Eric "Yoda" Cortina t shirt. I can't wait for your next video. Thanks so much!
Great video....I agree something is wrong with his equipment. Eagle Eye/Kenny is very competent and knowledgeable. I'm sure he will learn from this.
Nice work Erik! I’m so glad I found your channel. Very informative and interesting. Keep up the good work!
Eric, you are a great teacher and ambassador to our sport/hobby... love your content!
Thank you
Like I always say "There are people with experience and people with opinions. Listen to one, smile at the other."
A great video and many lessons learned. Having said that, I can tell from how the sizing lube was applied to his brass why his bump numbers are erratic- lube is on the shoulder and that’s causing the inconsistency. Lube the neck and the baby, never the shoulder, keep it dry for better results.
Nice video. I liked that you linked in that short clip of David Tubb from the Long Range Shooters of Utah channel. When it came up, I thought, 'Hey, I've seen that video".
I watched some of his videos and they had me itching my head. Thanks for the response video to ease my confusion (I like to think I'm always learning but don't want to go about it wrong either).
Love your videos would really like to see a start to finish load video from brass prep to seating bullets and some groups I know you got those tight lil big holes share that knowledge brother I’ll keep watching
If people show Interest in the channel, I’ll do it.
That’s good Thank You for taking the time.
I’m watching this 2 years later and I’m LMAO. I just recently found your channel and I find it very informative and even get some chuckles. 👍👍
I had the audio going when you were reading with the music and I thought you made a rap video about reloading
I’ve been bumping shoulders back 2 thousands for years now. I use Redding type s fl bushing dies on my long rage and hunting rifles and it’s never felled me yet. Look forward to the next video Erik.
Ever since I watched your seating depth video my accuracy has improved ten fold
Brother, I'm binging your videos. Basically a meat hunter and lover of firearms. Hobby reloader with an emphasis on accuracy. I reload for several different hunting rifles and pistols made for different jobs from single shots to revolvers to automatics. Keep doing what you do. You're gonna have a million subs before you know it. Thank you for the videos.
@ 3:53 smashes all neck sizing arguments out of the park. FL sizing also insures uniformity and less runout (not with a bushing die). and .002" is less than one third of a thickness of a sheet of paper.
Thanks for taking the time to post videos, very helpful
I love watching and learning from you Erik. Thanks
Would love to see a video of your reloading process, the equipment you use, and why you use that particular equipment/what advantage comes from special equipment.
Your smallest group video showing the CPS, hydro press and Prometheus has me intrigued.
Hope we get more of these. Watched it twice. Great video.
But mechanically he's still bumping the shoulder, but without measuring
It's interesting to hear both sides . There is always more to learn even though I have loaded for over 40 years .
I saw a video not long ago where two old school lumberjack's had a competition about who's chainsaw was sharper and more effective. Both were much better than a factory chain, but one was A LOT better than the other. They both had been sharpening saws a long time too. Beware of the guy that thinks he has nothing left to learn.
No where in the video did I ever see TWO WRENCHES to tighten the jam nut securely while holding the die in position. Not by the press, not behind the guy, not left of the chair, not on the shelf under the loader, not one the tray below the table. I can't remember ever adjusting a die without having wrenches out from start to until after a final test with everything fully tightened - and this is on a progressive with replaceable plates. If I had a single stage those wrenches would live in a purpose made holder directly on or under or the press. I wonder if he's hand tightening dies to get that wobble and 30 thou variance? (In the accuracy video a year later wrenches are out, I guess he learned!)
Great stuff Erik, keep it coming.
"I hope so" lol, you locked me in there. It became personal haha
This was great. Wish you would have continued with the series.
Your information and time is much appreciated.
I don't always agree on everything Erik prescribes to but he is a 100% correct on this. You can add reasons to why you want to full length size.
Thanks for the knowledge! Looking forward to the video so I can double check my set up!
He has the hornady lock and load collet setup on his press. I had similar issues with sizing cases on my press with that hornady kit. Since then I've gone back to the standard thread and die itself and have had no issues I'm consistently bumping my shoulders back .002. I also use the mec marksman press
"He misspelled 'their'". LOL!! Love it! Thanks for your series of videos. Very informative. Even the spelling. ;)
I just found your other channel today. I really enjoy your business one. I really don’t know anything about guns, but I will totally agree with you on feel is no measurement. Also if I really be concerned with accuracy I might not buy my measuring devices at Harbor Freight. The old adage of you get what you pay for comes to mind. I’m a heavy equipment mechanic by trade and on older equipment close enough was good enough. I can use a business card to set the ring and pinion gear in a final drive and it feels good or I can use a dial indicator to measure the gear lash to verify.
Ah, a true Gentleman indeed; Thank you Eric...
Great video and I respect you for being very professional when it's hard to not be! lol. Hats off to you Erik
Thanks, Erik. You are very generous to share your knowledge, experience, and time with the shooting community on YT. More info is always better, and every viewer will decide for himself what he wants to do. But "to get my results, you've got to do what I do" is still true. Showing on-target results with valid group sizes (5, 10, or 20 shots) is "proof" enough.
Thanks for the content Eric, keep up the great work
THANK YOU ERIK I AM NOT A SHOOTER WITH A LOT OF EXPERIENCE HOWEVER HE JUST RUBBED ME THE WRONG WAY.
To his credit Eagle Eye Shooting put it out there. What makes this a learning experience is that we learned there is more than one way to do it. But using a measurement instead of "feel" will bring repeatability and better understanding. So that is the way I am going.
I'm in! Look forward to the bump video!
Thank you for the info and being respectful to the man 😂😂.
Nice video.I love the concept.
Hello from Australia! One point Eric for your subscribers and people new to precision loading to maybe consider: Correct and consistent use of callipers in a repetitive or "production-line" type process such as hand-loading relies on consistent pressure or "feel" on the closing force of the callipers. Unless you are using the tension ratchet feature found on some precision measuring tools (like some vernier-scale micrometers for example {and even these features have their problems such as the need for perfect axial alignment of the part being measured to the anvil and spindle of the micrometer}), the variability of "feel" is not removed from the process of measurement. I use the same "shoulder set-back technique as Eric (but with not as much shooting skill) with good results as do many others. I would hope that people don't get the idea that if you put a set of vernier callipers into the hands of an untrained user, the problem of the inconsistency of feel goes away. It's easy to muscle a difference of several thousandths into your calliper measurement with your thumb. Using callipers is a skill very much incorporating feel and improving with attention and practice. I take it for granted because of 30 years of practice with precision measuring tools but watching this reminded me that in the beginning, I needed to be taught about feel. Stay safe and thank you for taking the time to teach us! You are an inspiration! Luke.
Keep the content coming. Thank you.
Holy crap. I’ve been subbed to this channel for a long time and this notification just popped up and I realized who you are 😂 only been subbed to Texas Barndominiums since you started working with Matt!
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I agree with your assessment, the sizing die is built for resizing brass, the bolt and rifle chamber is not.
Thanks for the heads up brother,one the 7,62-39 is a bad choice for the test for one,but that's me,I think Erik will get us to the right way.iam not mad at Eagle eye he may need to watch Erik.
I "felt" like I won an F class match one time, turns out I didn't. Pesky numbers always getting in the way!
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I'll bet Kenny can afford any brand of calipers he wants now , dude is a artist. And Mr. Cortina, you sir are a living legend ,thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge
I have to say, I am impressed how professional your reaction was, also I am glad you posted this video as I learned something new.
I've been doing Eric's methods for over 20 years.
It just works.
Thanks for posting Eric 👍
Hello my Friend, I’m not new to handloading for accuracy, and I will watch your videos for more knowledge, because you put it down like it should be, thank you very much for all of your knowledge brother 👍🏼✌🏼
Great information Eric !
If you have a maximum chamber and you full lenth resize even just bumping the shoulder back .002 you will have . 002 of shoulder clearance but your body clearance will be much more. Neck sizing for the same bolt rifle is a pretty standard practice.
“Feel isn’t a measurement” That is worthy of putting on a t-shirt.
To quote David Lee Roth “I don’t feel tardy”.
1st thing I noticed is the harbor freight calipers. Everything else is called into question when using bottom of the barrel equipment to take precision measurements
Erik, really like your channel and content, looking forward to the bump sizing video
I noticed when Mr. Eye was mentioning primary extraction he was pointing at the cocking cam and the chamfer that pulls the bolt all the way forward. Primary extraction is what pulls the case out of the chamber. On a Remington 700 (not what he's showing but I think most bolt actions operate similarly in this regard) it is a small ramp at the at the rear of the receiver that the base of the bolt lever hits. He is correct that the chamfer on the bolt lug can force a cartridge into the chamber. Also it most certainly does not have hundreds of pounds of torque, at least in any conventional form of measurement. You probably have less than 25 inch pounds of torque on the bolt that will generate (I'm guessing a bit here) approximately 50 pounds of forward linear force (torque is rotational) moving the bolt closed.
When you spoke about his die moving at the 20.27 time period, I had been using the 6.5 guys recommendation of putting one of those rubber round seals on the bottom of my dies and it did this exactly. I couldn't get any consistent results on bumping my should back while using that green o-ring. Removed it and then it measured exactly the same for each case.
If you used the Hornady lock -n- load adaptors you can get some movment due to the O ring in my experience
Really enjoyed the reaction video. Hoping for more.
Erik, I love what you are doing with this second channel. HOWEVER.... Make sure you're enjoying yourself. Take your time. Do it the way you want. I am confident that if you are happy with the product you put out here, I will be.
You can get that variance using calipers and applying more/less pressure taking measurements.
Thank you so much, you have made reloading much simpler for me and my group sizes have dropped considerably.
Thanks for all you do for the shooting community!!
Great video. please make the video where you show how to set up the dies.
Excellent video Erik. Thanks.
You Rock Eric! Great video, im on lying on my back crying!
You’re gonna really enjoy the next one. 😂
@@ErikCortina cant wait!
CAN YOU DO a video “Showing” what equipment you have and use to reload with. Maybe a Affliate link to those products on your video description as another way to monetize your videos. Buying the same exact equipment you use will greatly increase the same results in reloading outcome for us I imagine. 👍🏼
If you are talking about Erik's equipment, then plan on spending a lot of money. His powder dispenser (prometheus) starts off at $5100.