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This is gonna be awesome to see. Really curious to see what kind of hit rate is realistic with a pro shooting it.
I'm going to guess that Erik will hit 95+%.
I think James Eagleman at Barbour Creek could shoot 100% on this challenge. I would put my money on him over ANYONE else on RUclips for THIS challenge.
Eagleman would be very cool to see as well
@@timjohnson2731 I'd give Pieter Malan from the Impact Shooting channel a pretty good chance. He has like 35 videos hunting a variety of game in South Africa (he lives there) with his precision rifles. He's done a bunch of headshots out to 350 yards and body shots much further than that. And he's a professional PRS shooter.
@@timjohnson2731 AGREED. Eagleman is like some kind of machine and on a level above anyone else I've ever known.
Honestly the other pro I think would do well is Mike Lilly from long range with the Lillies. He's an NRL hunter pro who thrives in field conditions with a precision rifle
I think with optics for hunting, the most important thing is the hunter must know what they have and understand how to use it. They must be proficient in using the optics for the situation. Whether Mill/Mill or moa/moa, the hunter must understand and know how to apply it to the shot presented.
Out in the field off hand 200yds I'm only good for 8"circle. None of my west coast elk were shot off bag,bipod or tree even. 5 seconds or less shots from ID to hammer drop. One step and they are gone,and your chance for a shot
I'd like to be in line when Erik Cortina cleans out his safe to make room for something better. lol
Given that it shoots well, The Aero rifle is the best choice. Its a peak off the shelf option and at a reasonable weight. However, if your goal is to prove to people that this shot cannot or should not be done, then using your most accurate option and still failing will prove your point better. On the ammo option, should you be using something like the Nosler ABLR, Hornady ELD-X, or Berger EOL. This is a hunting scenario so hunting bullets should probably be used ( I know the difference BC is going to make at this distance is minimal but what is the point in creating a scenario if you aren't going to make it real). If the bullets you have chosen have shown to perform well on game then go ahead and use them by all means. FFP is a must for this scenario. MOA or mil is whichever you are most comfortable with.
What are your thoughts on carbon fiber barrels? It would be lighter and some are very accurate. There are several companies that have production guns. Fierce Firearms and Black Rain Ordnance have some lightweight accurate rifles for hunting.
No one is perfect. I watched the original video and in those conditions I would say it would be impressive for anyone to do better than 50%. Maybe it’s not impossible but highly unlikely anyone would range each target, have perfect elevation and make the right wind call for every shot. Would love to see you do it though.
No thanks on the FFP for hunting
Don’t need it for Ethical range hunting! I have bought hundreds of scopes over my 60+ years of hunting and collecting rifles and a MOA scope is all you need period !
What about the 6mm arc for this challenge? And factory ammo?
God bless
Oh, I again agree that a 100 % hit on that challenge is not possible.
That being said ... have fun.
Think you need to build your favorite rifle 308 with the new borden black night krg brovo stock 22inch barrel 600 yards all day with 308 and humane shot
Aero for sure. FFP mil is the ticket.
The real question is will you shoot from Jim’s back ?
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I knew it was coming, TPH didn’t disappoint. 😂
Tph doesn't disappoint
No no no, we need jim to flex a bit more for the butt crack rifle stand... 😂
As an experiment, I would love to see Erik shoot one of these challenges with a classic Western rifle like a T3x, with a vx3 or 5/vortex viper scope. It is by far the most relatable setup for most Western hunters. It would truly give many of us a more realistic expectation for performance. Everyone loves to talk about how it’s about the shooter, not the equipment, but I’ve never seen long range experts shoot anything much less than a competition/high end hunting setup. I believe Erik is one of the best shooters out there, but I’d be much more interested if this challenge was with an average rifle.
I agree, that 1st guy that ran the challenge with Jim was a perfect representation of the weekend warrior.
Your idea would represent well the committed shooter who was willing to invest in the craft.
Having Eric do the shooting takes the “shooter” out of the equation. It would be the perfect demonstration of why someone running a Ruger American and off the shelf CoreLok ammo should stay in their “inside 300 yards” lane. Too many folks fancy themselves an amazing marksman. This would give us all the ammo we need to show folks why it’s important to be realistic when hunting living animals.
Good luck Eric! You’ll do great!!
Yeah, the first episode featured the average hunter that thinks they can shoot long range. I’m a long range shooter, so I’ll bring long range gear.
That’s fair. I just would like to see a great shooter shoot with average equipment. It would really show what skill gets you vs equipment. Maybe a bonus with you shooting one of Jim’s review guns?? Looking forward to the challenge! Good luck Erik!
He definitely was a Vortex fanboy 😂@@ErikCortina
A 6.5CM Tikka CTR in factory configuration should be more than capable of getting this task done.
If you wanted to try a light weight set up then a Razor LHT 4.5-22 would be a good option, but honestly a K318i wouldn't be impractical for this shoot.
I definitely don't think either the 6x47 or 6br as setup would be "fair" for this test.
If a 20lb rifle was to be used then why not game the whole thing and run a 300NM and just ignore all the wind calls.
Since this is basically to legitimize hunting over 600 yds. I think you should use a common rifle. If someone with your skill can’t do it with even a premium “hunting” rifle, most hunters don’t have a chance to do it consistently.
I hope that is exactly what hunters get from all this is that it’s about being a ethical hunter not some Ahole who likes taking pot shots at our precious game🤔😳
That's what I suggested, Eric didn't like it.
@@edwardabrams4972 Thats the thing, I don't think many will get it, especially when Erik will likely do extremely well and it could actually be detrimental to the case of "ethical hunting" because most (well maybe not most but many) will likely not consider Erik's skills in wind reading and also will likely ignore the fact that he is also a very very good competitive long range / F-Class shooter both of which make the rifle aspect rather moot.
I like as much accuracy as I can get but will only use a traditional style hunting rifle. I do not really care to shoot past 300 yards on live game. Terminal ballistics count for live game. Need a bullet made for hunting for that.
I like MIL and FFP for hunting too. I pretty much never use MOA anymore
Do you measure distance in yards or meters? I find most people measure in yards so moa ffp makes more sense in my head.
Aero Solus fits the bill perfectly if you ask me! A production out of the box precision hunting rifle. You couldn’t ask for a more realistic situation than that!
Yup
Did you get the OK from Hornady to say your rifle is a sub-moa?😊
Mils vs MOA for hunting it doesn't matter one bit. Use what you know and are comfortable with. Both of them are just angular measurements and both work the same way. Its like asking are centimeters or inches better? It depends on what you're used to and how your tools are marked. FFP has a disadvantage for close up woods hunting due to the tiny reticle. SFP is trickier to use the reticle for windage or elevation unless you're zoomed in all the way. Each has it's pros and cons so again I'd say use what you personally prefer. This challenge is going to be so awesome, I can't wait. I posted a thread about Jim's video over on Long Range Only and nobody volunteered to try it.
Nope, moa is more accurate.
Mil is easier to use without pulling out a calculator.
@@StuninRub I cant see how its more accurate, can you explain
@@StuninRub I wouldn't say it's more accurate. It is a little bit finer adjustment, which may or may not make any difference at all on paper. 1 click on an MOA scope is about 1.57" at 600 yards while a Mil scope gives you 2.16". So it really depends where exactly you're trying to move your crosshair. Since we are talking about hunting at 600 yards in this video, a difference of a few tenths of an inch in scope adjustment will be overshadowed by the precision of your scope, the accuracy of your rifle, and your ability to shoot from a hunting position. So my original statement "it doesn't matter one bit" holds true.
Came here to basically post this comment. Both are just angular measurements so you should use what you are most familiar with.
A hunting setup. I’d like to see a sub $1500 rifle. Impress me and choose a 308.
Lot of sub $1500 .308 out there.
What's the status of this challenge?
Did you back out?
Erik, why not bring two rifles out to the challenge? The Aero Solus and your F-class 7PRCW world championship rifle? If the 7PRCW cannot do it 100%, then the challenge can be put to rest that it’s not achievable.
Right on great ideas I knew there was a reason I liked you🤔😳😂
Erik,
Your setup is to heavy for stalking, average hunter will go with a #2 contour weighting 7.8 to 9 pound scoped, aluminium Talley ring, 2x10x42mm to 3x15x42mm scope, second focal plane scope. Probably in the most popular 0.308 caliber with more drop and deflection. The challenge is to proof what a pro can do with a hunting set up. If you have 0.75 moa accuracy, it will be more in line with most of the good hunting rifle. If you cannot ... A lot of long range enthusiast will have to sober up. Please get out of your confort zone with 15 pound + rifle
I like your philosophy on long range hunting. Too many guys are shooting way beyond their capabilities and the animal pays for it. Thanks for being straight forward with hunters Eric. Be fun to see how you do on this challenge, it will be eye opening for all of us.
And this is ONE of the reasons Eric gets respect! Being ethical is so important because everyone is looking for an excuse to put down hunting 🤔😳
The one thing I would add to your comment is that it's not just the animals that pay for it, It gives hunters a BLACK EYE also!!
I have been checking Erik's channel and BackFire and have not been able to find it. Did this challenge ever happen? I would love to see this one.
I’d say as far as mils or moa it’s just what you’re proficient with but agree it should be ffp. No matter what rifle you choose, that aero precision rifle would make a great video.
The 13lb weight is totally fine for long range hunting. Heavy but not too much. I think mine is 13-13.5 if I remember correctly. Also looking forward to your review of the Aero action.
My hunting rifle is a shade over 9lbs and I wouldn’t want to carry anything heavier. How much are you carrying that 13lb rifle?
I’m older now and do not walk as much as I used to. So if I am in my favorite pastures, I only walk in a few miles to post up and let the rifle do the walking for me. I have a nice, lighter hunting rifle, but I find the long range rig is so nice to shoot that I take it as much as possible.
I like those oryx chassis. Pretty low budget
Rifle looks nice. My opinion, and it’s just me, I like SFP MOA scopes for hunting. I just can’t see enough of the reticle on FFP scopes on Low power to actually do anything with. As compared to a SFP scope on Low power being able to see and use the reticle. Just my opinion. Good luck
Idaho has a 16 lb max rifle weight rule that would also disqualify the heavier rifles. Very helpful information listening to your thought process in choosing a rifle. I would love to hear what you would take on a combo mule deer / elk hunt especially caliber wise.
That is an absolutely wild rule. What’s the reasoning behind it?
I, too, would love to know the reasoning behind that rule.
@@albundy7459 it was a roundabout way for them to address guys supposedly using .50 BMG to kill elk.
@@jimothy-johnson What's wrong with that?
For caliber, a good balance of accuracy, distance, down range energy and RECOIL, the 7MM Remington Magnum is hard to beat. Especially if you hand load.
Aero Solus, the rest are all what I would consider to be target guns.
Animals are targets
@@Sparks00psn no, animals are food.
@@jonathanrogers9961 after they’re a target, yes. Kind of hard to eat a still running deer.
Hope this lesson gets attention. Lots of folks think they are long range killers and need a taste of humble pie. 6.5 CM is fine for antelope out to 600 but how many people can make the shot in hunting conditions. I grew up in WY and I know what the wind does. Started out with a 30.06 at age 14 and now, at 71, use a .308. I would never attempt an elk beyond 350 with a .308. Energy drops below 1500 ft lbs very quickly beyond that. I don’t think I’ve ever taken a mule deer beyond 250 or an antelope beyond 300. Part of hunting is knowing how to get close enough for an ethical shot.
You do realize that a 6.5 with 147 eld box ammo has the same kinetic energy at 1400 as a 9mm at point blank... I still don't understand how people are out here thinking these bullets aren't lethal at extended range. If you genuinely believe that putting the barrel of a 9mm to the side of an elk won't kill them, then by all means, neither will your 308 at 500.
@@theironroad5502 Did you read my post, “6.5 is fine out to 600 for antelope”? Also, I wouldn’t hesitate to use it on mule deer and elk to 350/375. Recommended energy to kill an elk is 1500 ft/lbs. 308 loses that just below 400. I grew up in WY, where the wind blows. From age 14 to when I left for the Army after college, age 22, I killed a bull elk and mule deer, every season. And yes, my dad killed more mule deer with his 30/30 than I ever will. So yes, smaller calibers do work when used at ethical ranges. Ethical range includes your ability to make accurate wind calls. I’m 71 now, but my favorite advice from my dad is still, “If you have to shoot at an animal beyond 250, you don’t know how to hunt.”
Erik says, “I’m your huckleberry.” 😂
I started laughing about half way through and saying ,”God, I love you him!” when Eric said, “Some people will say that’s a target scope, not a hunting scope. Well animals are targets and we want to put the bullet where we want it.”
True that! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So true until you have a small buck jump out of the brush at 25 yards and the FFP crosshairs cover the whole body 🤔😳
@@edwardabrams4972 Hmmm the challenge is not at 25 yds though. I’ve never had the crosshairs cover an entire buck though.😀👍
@@edwardabrams4972 that's not how antelope hunting works. which is why he's selecting the scope he's selecting. and why he asked backfire to specify an animal. I brought a 4-16 ffp on my antelope hunt and was very pleased.
Hi Eric! I would love to see you shooting the same stock gun setup as the backfire troll, tikka t3x lite 300wm with real light weight hunting scope around 12 power and shooting of a backpack or shooting sticks
We all know what you are capable of with a fancy equipment, we all want to see the limitations of professional shooter with a very simple and cheap gun , but elk capable power at 600yd
Guys if you like my idea, please click "like" , otherwise Eric probably won't see this
I agree that would be much more interesting 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Yes, that way it would be more beneficial for the hunting community
Eric, just don't get scoped lol
I can't wait to see Eric do the challenge. If anyone can do it he'll be the one.
Whats going on with that challange Eric? We want to see how you do😁😁😁
It would be cool if Erik made videos along the way. How he mounts the scope, the level, and gets the reticle perfectly level. Any shooting he does to practice and learn the rifle. How he selects which ammo to use (or if he builds his own ammo, the steps in the process). Erik is a hero in my house.
I will assure you that Eric will look impressive in the event. Eric does things much different than a serious hunter would. hopefully we will be able to see the testing and process of the rifle being put together before the event. the world champ will impress !
Take and off the shelf gun. And ammo. My bet is a no go. Even if you take your best 7prcw you will lose the challenge. Want to bet? You call us trolls, but you don't hunt. This challenge is harder than your blackjack shoot. You have to allow for elevation, windage and so on. There are no flags to tell one shit. So I do wish you the best and would come see this in person. Just passed through ST. George today head back from Vegas to Wy.. Snow and wind to boot. give me a date and I will be there. Or come to Wy. Where we have all the wind one could want and I will set up the challenge. love all of the great info. from both these guys. But being an avid hunter in WY. for 4 years i know the ropes.
Erik, your "going to see what is in the safe" already blows 90% of us out of the water cuz you have the good stuff. Fan of the 6br but am used to a 16lb pack riding my mtn bike so no big. What's really cool is you outfitting a bare rifle for the challenge. Tons we can learn from your components and decisions made along the way.
I’ve built a couple of long range hunting rifles, I started with second focal plane MOA Nightforce scopes. I now use first focal plane Nightforce scopes, but still MOA. My buddy uses MILS. Both work, you just need to be proficient and knowledgeable in whichever system you’re using. Looking forward to your build and challenge!
I think you are going at this the right way and agree with you about the 600 yard shot on game.
Your 6×47 is the one you need for this challenge Erik
It's funny. What a target shooter thinks is "light" and a western hunter thinks is "light" is TOTALLY DIFFERENT. I think light weight starts at 8# and goes down from there. Average is 8.5-9.5#. A dedicated mountain hunter would think 14# is gastly heavy!
For practical hunting situations sfp is the way to go. If I jump a buck or bull and he's standing at 40 yards I don't want to fish around for a cross hair.
Yes, I smiled at that too. My .30-06 and my 9.3x62 are both 8.2 pounds with 4x scopes. Obviously, I’m not taking 600 meter shots on game with them. But I can carry them all day up and down the little mountains we have in Virginia. On the other hand, my usual hunting rifle is an 11-pound .25-06 with a 2.5-8x scope. Despite the weight, it is well-balanced so I can carry it for a long time without getting too fatigued. If I were to attempt a challenge like this, that would be my hunting rifle of choice. But in the real world, it’s unlikely I will ever take a shot at more than 300 meters on game.
About half way through this video I already had the comment written out saying “not custom tanks mate, you need a **hunting** rifle you would take on an actual hunt”. Great to see you getting a hunting rifle for the challenge!
Technically, all rifles aes hunting rifles. 😉
@@ErikCortina I say, grab the last rifle you took hunting big game and go do the challenge. I reckon you always shoot better with a rifle you are familiar with so fitting out a new one puts you at a disadvantage.
Not all custom rifles are built for long range. My 2 most common hunting rifles are definitely custom rifles, neither of them are built for long range. The normal distance when I hunt is around 50 meters. My rifles are built to be easy to get on target quickly and take safe shots in such contexts. I have shot competition revolvers heavier than my 9.3x62! I have tried that rifle at 575 meters on steel. I think the deer can feel quite safe, even if you shoot at them at that distance with that equipment 😂
This will be entertaining.
DUDE!
You should use a hunting rifle and a hunting caliber like 308 or 270 for this otherwise I consider it as cheating, it's a bit like showing up with a NASCAR to a go-cart race.
I cannot remember a video that I have been more excited about seeing in a long time!
Same here
Here too.
Kinda wish it was elk. Gave you some help, calling on antelope.... but hey,, glad you ding this! A 100 rounds is a lot!
Best wishes Mr. Cortina!
You bumped those rifles, my balloon knot just about sucked my entire chair right up into my stomach.
"Balloon Knot" 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
Yeah i coulda made a diamond when that happened.
You guys are silly. This has been tested so many times. You can straight up drop them and they won’t lose zero. It’s called quality equipment. Old wives take when optics and rings sucked. Any decent $100+ set of rings and $650+ optic would be completely unphased.
A couple months ago at the range. I had my MK12 rifle with Arken scope resting on bipod on the bench. (Before people bash the Arken "cheap" junk scope, this says something). Mk12 with Magpul PRS lite stock, 6-24x50 scope and Atlas bipod, weighing 12.2 lbs. A guy walked by the bench and accidentally bumped the rifle, it fell from 42" bench, flipped as it fell and full impact was top of scope, on concrete. First thing another guy said was "I wouldn't have that rifle now". I commented, if it can't take a fall like that, I don't want it. The rifle didn't get a scratch, the scope took the full impact. The objective flip cap blew apart at the hinge, the elevation turret had a small scratch. I checked zero, still dead on. Ran the turrets out to 200, 300 & 400 shooting hanging golf balls, back to zero, still tracked perfect.
Years ago, I may have had a stroke to see that rifle hit the concrete. Not the Arken scope because it wasn't expensive. But back in the day if that had been that rifle with a Nightforce or Vortex razor $3000+ scope, my heart may not have handled it, I look at things different now.
I agree, dialing elevation is important but disagree with 1st focal plane. In hunting scenarios, I want to see a clear reticle when the scope is on it’s lowest power. Mil Dot is good and knowing average animal size- dimensions very important for Mil Dot ranging.
I appreciate the experts being blunt about the limitations of long range hunting.
Hunting gun. Most of what you showed is not. your pick is good, but not what the gun manufactures sell for the risk you take. Not a taker on the B.S. the web tells us. You guys should take a note from meat eater Steve Rinella. He pack a real hunting gun. Misses more than most real hunters from the west. In his defense he pack his ass off and shows more real world shit than most. Invite him to challenge you.
Can't wait to see the challenge.
SPF for me because in low light situations it's to damn hard to see the reticle on low power. I was on the 6BR until we saw it would be illegal for FTR. 😅! I have a full custom 284 weight is 10 pounds with a March 2.5-25x42. You can use it if you want.
Exactly!
I follow both of you and can’t wait see this challenge . Gone be good one
"MOA is better for hunting" is one of the silliest things I heard in a while. They only say that because most hunters who are not also precision shooters are still stuck in the MOA language because "that's what their daddy used".
The guy has a reputation to uphold ... he'll stack his deck accordingly.
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Are you shooting the 100 milk Jugs with Back Fire?
I was hopeful you that you would do this challenge.
NEEDSMOOR pick one!
Soooooo when are you doing this?
I was raised using MOA scopes so that's what I prefer and am use to. It would be to costly to switch every scope over at this point.
If anyone knows what rifle to use it would be you for sure. Good luck on the challenge Erik!!
Backfire setup a prs match with timed and positional shooting.. far from "a hunting situation"..
Idk what you watched but the video I watched from backfire with the milk jugs was a great hunting practice test
@brianjazek7769 think so? When are you timed and forced to take a shot on an animal? When are you forced to shoot from a certain place or position? You ever tried to range a milk jug vs a deer elk or pronghorn? And how many hunts have you been on where you took 100 shots in a day?.. I've done plenty of prs matches and I can tell you this was setup like a competition
@@Rackpack-mb4mlcertain position, no. Less than ideal? All the time. I don’t think the test was perfect but I didn’t think it was that bad.
We never forced him to shoot any certain position. He could shoot any position he wanted. Just had one area where he had to get above the brush to see.
Also, MOST hunts require shooters to move quickly and get a shot off before the animal is gone. That’s why we simulated that pressure with time.
@backfire your entire argument here was against "long range hunting".. ultimately the hunter is the one that decides when and if to pull the trigger. This is a disingenuous test. A hunter is never forced to shoot period. I have an email from Mike the marine that tells his side of the story.. maybe I should get his permission to post it.
I was hoping you would do this to help bring awareness to what Jim is trying to accomplish. People underestimate how hard it is to shoot 600 yards in a hunting situation and do it ethically.
I agree with the folks who are suggesting use a rifle that is the most relatable, something you would see a lot of average hunters with. Otherwise go with the 6X47 and show that even qith the most dedicated long range gun that unrealistic for a hunter, its still next to impossible
If anyone can do it, my money is on Erik. Good luck!
Looking forward to this.
Love all the vids and collaboration that have sprouted from the Rock Chuck series.
I do a fair amount of field shooting and military biathlon; my personal preference is to take weight off of me rather than the rifle if I have to make a choice.
Everything I've got is currently a chassis gun but I have to admit to being hugely "Foundation curious" so that's where my vote is going.
Yer gonna crush it👍🏻
Scopes would be a little complicated and too long of a discussion to debate. But FFP vs SFP for true hunting can get complicated in today's world. I use both, Depending on my needs. MOA vs Mils that's a how scope measures. Both can be used on FFP or SFP. But its very important ones application to make the right choice.
To do this challenge justice you should load “HUNTING” not match bullets. Just my opinion
Good stuff. Looking forward to following. The best hunting optic I own (may be the best hunting optic ever) is the Kahles 3-18.
You have chosen wisely 😳🙌
Excellent video and advice. I shoot 1000 yards every week and would not advise on taking a 600 yard shot.
Its all about shoot placement. 1 MOA is good enough, Pronghorn antelope = 14"-15" killzone. Don't over think it and bring a laser rangefinder.
Not knowing the requirements or specifics of the shoot like only factory rifle and ammo vs any rifle, optics ammo it is hard to say.
Factory rifle & ammo, go with that last one you are putting together. Built rifle & hand loads then go with that second rifle you showed.
I am an RSO for our Long Range day and see people practice well beyond their and their equipments capabilities.
I agree that people should not take shots at game at long ranges. Myself I would limit to no more than 300 yards max.
Fred Weaver
Now it’s our job to convince all those other unethical hunters if that😳
Hello Mr. Cortina, thank you for saying something that should be said more, "animals are targets and the intention is to hit them where you intend". The BS spewed out for public consumption is so terrible for new hunters especially, that they have to sort through in order to have a rifle and ammunition that is adequate for harvesting game animals successfully. I also appreciate you mentioning that 600 yards is to far to be shooting a live animal except for very skilled and and knowledgeable people with the correct equipment. I will be watching for the upcoming video of the challenge and I have no doubts you will do exceptionally well.
Predictions folks?
Mine
96 out of 100
i agree the average hunter shouldnt take a shot past 150 yds on antelope size game the above average hunter that knows his rifle 300 yds max just my opinion
300 yard max for a proficient hunter only or much less for most hunters!
Can't wait to watch.
Oh, all my scopes are mil. Either hunting or target competition its all mil. FFP illuminated only in every situation. ❤
I'm not so sure it matters if you use an MOA or mil reticle. the most important thing to me is Do i know how to properly use the equipment that im bringing on the hunt. So practice practice and more practice. Good luck I can't wait to see how you do! And BTW I would love to come try your KYL challenge!
When is this going to go down? If it already has, when will it be aired?
Hi Erik, at what distances do you shoot game at when you hunt?
For hunting, MOA vs MIL, mil dot vs VEPR vs Tree. . . None of that matters. If you are compitent with your equipment and you are confident with your range estimate or measurement, then any of the scope tech out there is suitable for the shot.
As long as you are capable.
As for me, it doesn't matter what equipment I have with me, I couldn't do much better than Military Mike did on Jim's channel. That's a tough challenge and there's no doubt in my mind it would beat any shooter.
Spirit of the challenge is hunting, thus the out of the box Aero Solus is definitely the right choice! Mil/MOA doesn't matter, what ever the shooter is comfortable with. Like Km/hr or MPH, the relative distance and speed is the same regardless of unit of measure.
Did this not happen? haven't seen a follow up!
I’d take the Aero. My hunting rifle is 13.5#. My resembles it pretty close 😊
My wife’s “hunting rifle” is 17# but she doesn’t care I’m the one carrying it for her 😖. Pack is heavy as hell when two or more of us in the family get drawn.
They make scopes other than FFP/Mil-Mil?? 😳🤢🤮
Jim's vid was cringe as hell.... not because of Jim, just because of the shooter. God damn it was hard to watch. Imagine gobbing off that hard and then IMMEDIATELY getting scope bit.... then missing everything... Stay humble dudes
Everyone can say it’s 6” inches but sooner or later someone is going to ask you to prove it then it’s humble pie🤔😳😂
@@edwardabrams4972 That's my dating life in a nutshell
When it comes to optics… I say use what you’re comfortable with. I’ve been an MOA guy most my life and you learn to adjust no matter which you use. FFP preferred as well at least for me.
IMO to keep it fair choose a rifle you would hunt with .
Great video as you bring us along with your thought progression!
Yes, MDT and Aero make great products.
Please take your #1 Needsmore to compare with the Solus for your shots?
Been considering purchasing a Solus and would love to see how it performs in the hands of a pro.
Glad your doing the challenge. I like your approach to selecting your rifle.
Thank you.
Just finding your channel. Im a fan of backfire, so im betting ill like your work too. Solid sub from me, one gun channel to another
I have a Aero Solos in their competition chassis and it's a very accurate rifle. I'd be very interested in what Eric can do with this platform.
Eric, you are killing it with the content! Here's another series I cannot wait to watch. I am super curious to see how the Solus performs. I have been itching to get one of those variants for a while now. I am still kinda partial to the needs more with the prefit barrel.
If you want a stock hunting rifle, have you considered using a Mauser M18 in 6.5 Creedmoor? Mauser guarantees a 5 shot group of sub MOA. I get why you want to use a hunting rifle, but this isn't a hunting test unless you have discovered one big ass antelope
I think this is more about 600 yards not bring ethical hunting and why it’s not ethical! Just my 60+ years of hunting reloading and collecting hundreds of rifles
Factory rifle for sure!
Realistically a one MOA rifle is about the most a hunter could expect. Yes you can pay $ for gun-smith or high end rifle, or get a lucky rifle. But most hunters don’t have that. Take the first rifle, we want to see what a great shooter can do with a 3/4 MOA gun. Because for most of us, that’s one of the better rifles we would ever own. Not to mention the advantages you would have with a competitive style scope. As my guess is most hunters have scopes that max out somewhere between 9 and 12 power. And the vast majority of them don’t have a rail system, or tripod.
That’s is the point. Most hunters have zero business taking 600 yard shots because they aren’t equipped for them.
@@ErikCortina Agreed... So to some extent I want to see you take a rifle and fail at 100% hits because it will show people they should not try it on game. None of us doubt your ability, and if they think they are better than you they are fools!
So? did it happen yet? i can’t find it.
Shoot the Aero Precision. It’s the closest thing to a hunting rifle. Like everyone else, I would prefer that you use a quality but affordable factory hunting rifle: Tika, Sako, weatherby. The 6.5CM may be OK for Antelope at 600 but not for anything larger. It loses energy for big game beyond 400.
Mark5 5-25 will save a bit of weight but understand the reliability of your choice. Love the 130 Berger but feel a 6creed is a more consistent option. That being said the aero after tuner brake will still be 14 ish pounds and seems the 6x47 is the bread getting. I can’t agree more if someone is committed to long range hunting they should be responsible enough to at least do there part and that includes the equipment and training.
The mark 5 scopes are great and the military use Leupold so they must be a good scope as I well know owning hundreds of Leupolds over 60+ years
I believe Mike the Marine set the standard for the rifle for the BF Challenge. You need to use a magnum or you will have an asterisk next to your name in the record book.
It’s stupid though.
Light magnums just shoot worse than heavier rifles in lower recoiling calibers