I believe I could listen to you two talk for days on end about rifles and shooting. You two are bringing up things I never considered that should help me be a better shooter. Thanks, Eric and Speedy for doing these videos and keep them coming.
Fire control and barrel.... everything else just holds them in place!!! That's golden knowledge!! Thanks Speedy and Eric these podcasts are awesome.... like having a Hummer Barrel for your ears!
Bro! Super bad ass knowledge and wisdom 🙌. Keep on educating the audience whom wich to be educated. I look forward to the day to speak to you in person. You are definitely a credit to your hobby. Speedy rocks and is phenomenal in his endeavors for what he has impacted this community with. God bless you and your loved ones 🙏💪🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 👍❤️
REALLY, enjoy listening to both , eric and speedy g ,you can see the close friendship between them.very much like working on my projects, listening to them in the background. always pleasant .many thanks gentleman.👍
Great conversation guys. I loved going to Benchrest matches with my folks when I was a kid. I had a joke dollar bet with Mac McMillian the day he shot his perfect group at Skunk Creek in 1973 (and I still maintain that it was perfect). I was always amazed by the depth of knowledge and attention to detail the serious competitors brought to the game. Dad had a great grasp on all of the variables, and did quite a bit of testing when he was breaking in a new gun and working up loads, but he never kept the detailed logs and data that many of the other guys religiously tracked and compiled. He flew by the seat of his pants to a large degree, and that was enough to keep him competitive and let him take the Grand Aggregate at the Nationals in '75, but never enough to keep him at the top of the leader board consistently. It would be fun to try to get back into it again, but I have neither the time, the money, nor the discipline to get serious about it.
Always find it interesting when people discuss things I had ideas about, or experience with, at the time when I shot comps, and now am hearing some confirmation of, or am hearing it explained in a way that I didn't quite put together completely at the time, some of the why's that people have sorted out, that I had suspicions about. It all adds up, helps clear the picture a bit here and there.
I am totally a social shooter, but my physics and engineering background make me interested in the factors of precision. I always wanted to learn to reload and watching this channel over the last year and a half I have done just that. Eric has helped me focus on what matters and ignore what does not, keeping it as simple as possible while giving me some things to work on that offer precision gains.
I have a Winchester M70 action that was blueprinted. The new metal is too soft and tends to smear on the lugs of the bolt. It looks like the gunsmith welded it with a MIG rather than a TIG welder. Little things are difficult to see until you put it to work. With a 3 oz trigger, this smear can cause major issues in a competition. This was a rail gun I built in 2001.
Very interesting video. As a former builder and competitor of rimfire BR rifles, I know very different, but the bolt work are ignition are critical. Most folks don't understand the amount of work involved to get it right. I thoroughly enjoyed this video. It was like "Deja vu all over again for and old retired guy". I agree with Speedy on 2 types of shooters, I never was a social shooter. After I retired, I attended a couple matches just to visit, but I never shot the match.. I visited and talked to folks.
I remember buying a limsaver rubber harmonic tuner for my ruger M77 30-06. Just a hunting rifle, but it was all over the place, 3 inch at 100 yards. light weight barrel, I put that tuner on, move it up or down the barrel till the group tightened up. It worked pretty good. This was 20 years ago ish.
That was amazing, as a club competition shooter I have just learned so much. I had never even considered free recoil v shoulder pressure for vertical dispersion. Gentlemen thank you so much for the knowledge. I'm sure this one VLOG will serve me well over my next comps in Australia. Again, thank you. David
Thank you again fellas. Got a few more little rid bits to add to my knowledge. I had came to all the same conclusions on tuners over the last 25 years. They work well if you know that you need to change them in differently conditions. I have not shot center fire in 20 years, but if I seat again I’ll have a tuner. Always have used them on rimfires.
Thinks for sharing the things you know . I never thought that so much could affect a gun in the way they shoot . But it all makes sense . When you think about it
Great discussion! Thumbing up, and hoping you continue the series. From the robotic manufacturers I worked with, accuracy is placement, repeatability is a location repeated, and precision is having both tuned up on the wanted target at he same time. You'll never get a robotics guy to commit to accuracy or precision. They will only talk repeatability. The others are up to you. You probably have talked in CpK in manufacturing processes.
Very interesting, never thought about holding fixed and free recoil changing velosity. It makes sense the energy created is transfered in both direction if it is not absorbed in free recoil it must go somewhere.
This is a great interview! Both Mike Walker and Tony Boyer are icons of rifles in our industry. Speedy was fortunate to be associated with them. Please consider interviewing Dave Gullo, a long range BPCR championship shooter and proprietor of Buffalo Arms Company. Another interesting interview would be Adam Weatherby, the third generation CEO of Weatherby and grandson of the iconic Roy Weatherby.
If i won a championship, i'd tell you i use a hard steel brush on a drill to clean it, or that it's NEVER been cleaned, or that i use pure ammonia on a bronze brush every day. 🤣 "What's your winning secret?!" Bro i store my rifles under water...
Erik need more information about bolt blueprinting. Speedy gave the dimensions for the one end of the shroud but not the other. Would appreciate those details. Thanks Or better yet a video of you guy's machining the shroud.
Well, if you like me, who went and checked their firing pin/bolt after hearing this podcast well Erick and speedy, you just created enough work for yourself to last a lifetime for machining these things out everybody’s gonna want it done now
Wow. Funny I'm watching this about the coil bind. I just had a issue with my M70 Winchester with lots of misfires and lots of flyers. It was this. 2 weeks out from an international hunt I'm pulling apart my rifles trying to mix and match springs. Even a new winchester sping bound. But i found one that worked and bingo accurate. Who makes springs for this?
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. It wasn't to long ago that knowledge was a secret not to be shared for fear of someone beating them either on the range, on the lake or preparing a hunting site. After 35 yrs in the military, I retired and bought a Ruger American bolt action 22LR to participate in our clubs rimfire benchrest fun shoots. I now realize I have a lot of tweaking to do. If you have anything else to share about improvements that can be made to rimfire rifles out of the box, please do. Thanks again. I'm hooked.
Awesome stuff! I just talked to Speedy last week. I was asking him if he had any secrets to how I could shoot better when the mirage was bad...lol Mirage is something that is hard for me to shoot consistent groups with.
Ralph Stewart. My wife was tutored by Ralph. She has the dies and barrel chambered for the 30 Stewart. Mike Stinnett set the BR record with the 30 Stewart round. 0.0077 inch group. Also, John Miers helped her get her Robertson stock which she built up with a Stick Stark’s modified drop port Panda action. 6BR.
I probably left a few of those hummer barrels on the table in the old days because lack of knowledge as to how the sum of the parts effected the final performance of the firearm. I did engineering seminars with Chris Barrett at their facilities just outside of Nashville on their MRAD and most of the seminars were focused around the fire control of the rifle. Today their seem to be a lot more hummer barrels as our aggregates get smaller almost daily and I feel it is due to our better understanding of the components working in sequence to maximize the firearms full potential.
Being a Industrial Process Instrument Guy. Precision is Repeatabilty. (Small Group Analogy.) Weigh scale example: 10 pound wieight on 2 different weigh scales. Scale # 1 reads 10.20, 9.90, 10.0, 10.10 and 9.85 Scale #2 Reads 9.71, 9.70, 9.70, 9.71 and 9,70 #1 is more accurate but #2 is more precise. When it come to calibration "If it is repeatable, it is adjustable to be both accurate and precise. (Accuracy Analogy is the position on target.)
I have to say, this is more of the funniest videos I've seen in quite some time. I grew up in the 60s and 70s and a hippie at heart, but I don't have long hair anymore. Hearing Speed say he was a hippie type made me laugh...in California we have always said for years that Texas would be a great place if it wasn't for the Texans...LOL To us it always seemed that Texans didn't like hippies, but maybe that's cause we were from California. The outlaw types are obviously hippie types, though, so what do I know...I have to admit I fit your and Speedy's sterotype of owning a lathe and planning to chamber with it, never done it before. I have bolts and blanks for 4 x 700 style actions. However, I don't plan to shoot competition, I primarily plan to hunt. I have 3 x PTG bolts for the actions.
I bought a Browning a bolt years ago and it came with a tuner from the factory. I don't know why they still don't put them out My gun will shoot just under one inch at 200 yd and it's bone stock.
I said the same thing Speedy said; specifically about two types of shooters. The social and the competitive. People didn't like that. But when you start second guessing relationships / careers / where you live regardless of family and friends because you want the prestige of being the top in the world... Yeah. There is a differenfce.
This is amazing. I'd give my baby toe to be able to learn from Speedy directly. I know that in a week I could attain an amount of knowledge that could take me 30 years otherwise. However, I am confused about one thing. In his tuner story with the two "crappy" shilen barrels he said they didn't shoot because their twist rate wasn't fast enough to stabilize his boat tail bullets but then said the tuners made them more accurate without any other changes. There's no way a tuner can affect bullet stability from insufficient rpm so this just doesn't make any sense to me. Could I get some clarification?
The more I watch you guys the more I know what I dont know.
I believe I could listen to you two talk for days on end about rifles and shooting. You two are bringing up things I never considered that should help me be a better shooter. Thanks, Eric and Speedy for doing these videos and keep them coming.
Why i enjoy shooting more and more is because of 2 great pros Like Speedy and Erick that are humble men and a credit to the shooting sport
Thank you
Can you do a video on all the bolt modification theory and process?
And Eric won in South Africa! My home. Well done!
Erik, what you guys are willing to share with the bigger community is commendable, thank you and please continue.
Thank you
The combined knowledge is amazing!!!
Fire control and barrel.... everything else just holds them in place!!! That's golden knowledge!! Thanks Speedy and Eric these podcasts are awesome.... like having a Hummer Barrel for your ears!
I have never shot completively nor do i intend to, but i could listen to speedy and eric for hours. Great content!
I'm so glad folks like these are around so we have a chance to learn something
Keep the knowledge flowing Erik! Thanks to Speedy also!
Thank you
Thanks guys. This guy greatly appreciates the info. Keep it coming.
Bro! Super bad ass knowledge and wisdom 🙌. Keep on educating the audience whom wich to be educated. I look forward to the day to speak to you in person. You are definitely a credit to your hobby. Speedy rocks and is phenomenal in his endeavors for what he has impacted this community with. God bless you and your loved ones 🙏💪🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 👍❤️
REALLY, enjoy listening to both , eric and speedy g ,you can see the close friendship between them.very much like working on my projects, listening to them in the background. always pleasant .many thanks gentleman.👍
Thank you both !
Great conversation guys. I loved going to Benchrest matches with my folks when I was a kid. I had a joke dollar bet with Mac McMillian the day he shot his perfect group at Skunk Creek in 1973 (and I still maintain that it was perfect). I was always amazed by the depth of knowledge and attention to detail the serious competitors brought to the game. Dad had a great grasp on all of the variables, and did quite a bit of testing when he was breaking in a new gun and working up loads, but he never kept the detailed logs and data that many of the other guys religiously tracked and compiled. He flew by the seat of his pants to a large degree, and that was enough to keep him competitive and let him take the Grand Aggregate at the Nationals in '75, but never enough to keep him at the top of the leader board consistently. It would be fun to try to get back into it again, but I have neither the time, the money, nor the discipline to get serious about it.
Always find it interesting when people discuss things I had ideas about, or experience with, at the time when I shot comps, and now am hearing some confirmation of, or am hearing it explained in a way that I didn't quite put together completely at the time, some of the why's that people have sorted out, that I had suspicions about. It all adds up, helps clear the picture a bit here and there.
what a gem this video is, thanks erik!
Omg 😮 did I learn from thus, thank both of you. Please 🙏 keep it coming!!!
More to come!
Great session (as usual)! Thanks to you both.
Thank you
Gents thank you for info. Plenty of gems in there. Sharing knowledge is our legacy.
Did he actually say zero MOA rifle? Unreal. I am ecstatic if I shoot sub 1 MOA. Totally on another level.
I am totally a social shooter, but my physics and engineering background make me interested in the factors of precision. I always wanted to learn to reload and watching this channel over the last year and a half I have done just that. Eric has helped me focus on what matters and ignore what does not, keeping it as simple as possible while giving me some things to work on that offer precision gains.
This is a good one! Thank you gentlemen!
Thank you for the knowledge
Great interview!
I have a Winchester M70 action that was blueprinted. The new metal is too soft and tends to smear on the lugs of the bolt. It looks like the gunsmith welded it with a MIG rather than a TIG welder. Little things are difficult to see until you put it to work. With a 3 oz trigger, this smear can cause major issues in a competition. This was a rail gun I built in 2001.
Very interesting video. As a former builder and competitor of rimfire BR rifles, I know very different, but the bolt work are ignition are critical. Most folks don't understand the amount of work involved to get it right. I thoroughly enjoyed this video. It was like "Deja vu all over again for and old retired guy". I agree with Speedy on 2 types of shooters, I never was a social shooter. After I retired, I attended a couple matches just to visit, but I never shot the match.. I visited and talked to folks.
I remember buying a limsaver rubber harmonic tuner for my ruger M77 30-06. Just a hunting rifle, but it was all over the place, 3 inch at 100 yards. light weight barrel, I put that tuner on, move it up or down the barrel till the group tightened up. It worked pretty good. This was 20 years ago ish.
That was amazing, as a club competition shooter I have just learned so much. I had never even considered free recoil v shoulder pressure for vertical dispersion. Gentlemen thank you so much for the knowledge. I'm sure this one VLOG will serve me well over my next comps in Australia. Again, thank you. David
ALways a good watch when Speedy talks
Thank you again fellas. Got a few more little rid bits to add to my knowledge. I had came to all the same conclusions on tuners over the last 25 years. They work well if you know that you need to change them in differently conditions. I have not shot center fire in 20 years, but if I seat again I’ll have a tuner. Always have used them on rimfires.
Thanks alot guys for your insight !
Thinks for sharing the things you know . I never thought that so much could affect a gun in the way they shoot . But it all makes sense . When you think about it
I would like to see a discussion with both Alex Wheeler and Speedy moderated by Erik. That would be worth a glass of good wine!
Absolutely fantastic
Priceless education and getting to know you two a bit more.
Great discussion! Thumbing up, and hoping you continue the series.
From the robotic manufacturers I worked with, accuracy is placement, repeatability is a location repeated, and precision is having both tuned up on the wanted target at he same time. You'll never get a robotics guy to commit to accuracy or precision. They will only talk repeatability. The others are up to you. You probably have talked in CpK in manufacturing processes.
Very interesting, never thought about holding fixed and free recoil changing velosity. It makes sense the energy created is transfered in both direction if it is not absorbed in free recoil it must go somewhere.
Thank you Eric for making this videos & interviews, especially for Gordy Gritters, Speedy & Alex Wheeler. May be Keith Weil will talk to you ?
This is the best video that I have ever seen. I might be able to absorb some of this information, thanks. HOPEFULLY
Thank you
I still use my Creighton audette measuring tool, your discussion was very informative.
That Speedy attitude is remarkable. Great smile.
This is a great interview! Both Mike Walker and Tony Boyer are icons of rifles in our industry. Speedy was fortunate to be associated with them. Please consider interviewing Dave Gullo, a long range BPCR championship shooter and proprietor of Buffalo Arms Company. Another interesting interview would be Adam Weatherby, the third generation CEO of Weatherby and grandson of the iconic Roy Weatherby.
👍
If i won a championship, i'd tell you i use a hard steel brush on a drill to clean it, or that it's NEVER been cleaned, or that i use pure ammonia on a bronze brush every day. 🤣 "What's your winning secret?!" Bro i store my rifles under water...
Thank you!
What class these to . Thank you for everything
Erik need more information about bolt blueprinting. Speedy gave the dimensions for the one end of the shroud but not the other. Would appreciate those details. Thanks Or better yet a video of you guy's machining the shroud.
Speedy and Erik are two stand up folks
Speedy need not worry about the hall of fame. He's already made it
Barrel shot out sooner from not cleaning... Bolts and springs and consistent ignition... priceless stuff
our learning curve gets better and better.
And us little grasshoppers thank you and hopefully continue the chain of accuracy to reach that level precision we all seek. Thank You!!
21:30 my grandpa "Mack" had a saying: "Every _young_ man needs an _OLD_ man" (to learn from...) and this here's a CLASSIC sort of example!
Im an old man but I always learn something something that you teach every time I watch..
Great video you two
A lot of information in this interview.
KNOWLEDGE...
Great video!!
Are they using copper solvent every time they clean or just carbon cleaner?
Thank you
I want to know how much velocity varies free recoil vs. pinning the stock to your shoulder. I’ll bet it ain’t much and can’t be bigger than my ES.
I have change the spring on my 700 from stock, but where can I find that 24lb spring and retainer bushing kit you mentioned?
Cool way to look at it
Wow , speedy needs his own channel
Very good thanks for it
Well, if you like me, who went and checked their firing pin/bolt after hearing this podcast well Erick and speedy, you just created enough work for yourself to last a lifetime for machining these things out everybody’s gonna want it done now
Wow. Funny I'm watching this about the coil bind. I just had a issue with my M70 Winchester with lots of misfires and lots of flyers. It was this. 2 weeks out from an international hunt I'm pulling apart my rifles trying to mix and match springs. Even a new winchester sping bound. But i found one that worked and bingo accurate. Who makes springs for this?
Thanks for the video
You’re welcome.
would be first inline to buy that spring and bush kit x 2 please please!
May I suggest using a RAD gauge for atmospheric conditions,
Come on Eric we need part 2!!!
It’s disheartening knowing, someday, a good percentage of Speedy’s (and others’) knowledge will be gone.
Speedy is a thief. He stole an action from me when he packed up and left SG&Y to go to Colorado.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. It wasn't to long ago that knowledge was a secret not to be shared for fear of someone beating them either on the range, on the lake or preparing a hunting site. After 35 yrs in the military, I retired and bought a Ruger American bolt action 22LR to participate in our clubs rimfire benchrest fun shoots. I now realize I have a lot of tweaking to do. If you have anything else to share about improvements that can be made to rimfire rifles out of the box, please do. Thanks again. I'm hooked.
Now i wonder if the bolt in my BAT DS is working as well as it can.
where can I find part 2?
Damn! Got to logon the forum to see the rest. Won’t wait for 10k likes!!
Great Stuff
Thank you
My howa 1500 bolt spring looks like that bad one . Not quite as bad but close. How do i fix that ?
Awesome stuff! I just talked to Speedy last week. I was asking him if he had any secrets to how I could shoot better when the mirage was bad...lol
Mirage is something that is hard for me to shoot consistent groups with.
Good stuff to learn.
I've been reading Tony boyers books, about speedy since the early 90's, it's cool to to see ya now speeking about the real things
Ralph Stewart. My wife was tutored by Ralph. She has the dies and barrel chambered for the 30 Stewart. Mike Stinnett set the BR record with the 30 Stewart round. 0.0077 inch group. Also, John Miers helped her get her Robertson stock which she built up with a Stick Stark’s modified drop port Panda action. 6BR.
What book is under Speedy's left arm? Can You recommend any good rifle-smithing books?
Thanks for the homework 😂 I'm pretty sure my firing pin spring is coiled lol 17:47
I want to learn this
Quality job as always Erik. So ? for Speedy how often, anyway to speed up finding a Hummer??😃 and I am serious. thx Ted
I probably left a few of those hummer barrels on the table in the old days because lack of knowledge as to how the sum of the parts effected the final performance of the firearm. I did engineering seminars with Chris Barrett at their facilities just outside of Nashville on their MRAD and most of the seminars were focused around the fire control of the rifle. Today their seem to be a lot more hummer barrels as our aggregates get smaller almost daily and I feel it is due to our better understanding of the components working in sequence to maximize the firearms full potential.
A close friend of mine that past away always talked about shooting against this man Bruce Bailey never could quite catch Speedy
How come the boat tails wouldn’t stabilize in the 2 15 twist. But putting the tuners on made them stabilize?
I've seen this very thing, about the spring and never knew any better 🤦♂️
Being a Industrial Process Instrument Guy. Precision is Repeatabilty. (Small Group Analogy.) Weigh scale example: 10 pound wieight on 2 different weigh scales. Scale # 1 reads 10.20, 9.90, 10.0, 10.10 and 9.85 Scale #2 Reads 9.71, 9.70, 9.70, 9.71 and 9,70 #1 is more accurate but #2 is more precise. When it come to calibration "If it is repeatable, it is adjustable to be both accurate and precise. (Accuracy Analogy is the position on target.)
I have to say, this is more of the funniest videos I've seen in quite some time. I grew up in the 60s and 70s and a hippie at heart, but I don't have long hair anymore. Hearing Speed say he was a hippie type made me laugh...in California we have always said for years that Texas would be a great place if it wasn't for the Texans...LOL To us it always seemed that Texans didn't like hippies, but maybe that's cause we were from California. The outlaw types are obviously hippie types, though, so what do I know...I have to admit I fit your and Speedy's sterotype of owning a lathe and planning to chamber with it, never done it before. I have bolts and blanks for 4 x 700 style actions. However, I don't plan to shoot competition, I primarily plan to hunt. I have 3 x PTG bolts for the actions.
I bought a Browning a bolt years ago and it came with a tuner from the factory. I don't know why they still don't put them out My gun will shoot just under one inch at 200 yd and it's bone stock.
Just learn from the best there is!
I saw some short a video where Speedy was taking about the rear bag. Is that bag discussion part of another onterview?
Yes. Look at my livestreams.
I've noticed Tony Boyers book, The Book of Rifle Accuracy, on Speedy's desk several times on these videos...
Love theses videos.
Thank you
I said the same thing Speedy said; specifically about two types of shooters. The social and the competitive.
People didn't like that.
But when you start second guessing relationships / careers / where you live regardless of family and friends because you want the prestige of being the top in the world... Yeah. There is a differenfce.
I like Speedy -- he has a wealth of information.
You guys need to do some videos on disk and sell them ! Bedding jobs, etc
This is amazing. I'd give my baby toe to be able to learn from Speedy directly. I know that in a week I could attain an amount of knowledge that could take me 30 years otherwise. However, I am confused about one thing. In his tuner story with the two "crappy" shilen barrels he said they didn't shoot because their twist rate wasn't fast enough to stabilize his boat tail bullets but then said the tuners made them more accurate without any other changes. There's no way a tuner can affect bullet stability from insufficient rpm so this just doesn't make any sense to me. Could I get some clarification?
I think that its amazing that Mike Walker had so much insight 60 yrs ago. Didnt know Speedy was an understudy.
What brand barrel is going to give me the best chance of getting a "hummer"? I want one!
Krieger, Bartlein
Does speedy teach classes?