tiny.cc/arena-defense-examples || I added the examples show here to Google sheet file - let me know what you think about it? Latest promo code: YHBFEBHSNK You can also now craft elite level charms for any hero! 00:00 Intro 00:46 Team 1: Lily May, Scarlita, Thoran, 2xHealers 06:05 Team 2: Phraesto instead of Thoran 11:56 Team 3: No Lily May 14:19 Team 4: No Scarlita 16:56 Team 5: Talene 20:38 How to win against some of these teams
Took a 1 month break between seasons so I don't have Lily May ascended. Regained my Top 20 spot in normal arena comfortably using the 1st defense team in your "no Lily May" teams only losing to heavy whale teams. Good work as always
Hey! I don't currently have a discord server because my channel is so new, but if you want to message me in discord, you can find me from the AFK Journey Official discord under the CreatorZone tag. I might make a discord server at some point, but I will mention it in a video intro if I do :)
Hey dude I tried these mauler heavy teams against the Wilder comps and they just don't seem to be working. I have all the heroes S+ and most of them +10 except for Antandra who's +5, and I'm still getting beat pretty hard. One game Thoran wiped the entire team with his second ulti. I don't know how those comps are supposed to actually be able to kill the Wilder teams. Edit: I just tried a 3rd time against a Scarlita variant with Lily using your exact comp and that lost too.
Hey, thank you for the comment. If you want to send me example on discord I can try to see if there is something I would change. The thing about fighting Scarlita teams is, that there is pretty much always a chance that you will loose, even if you have your own Scarlita (if you do, I would recommend using a team with her). Also if you have a good Lily May, I would maybe try building a team around her instead of the ones that I'm using, but since I don't have Lily/Scarlita on this account, I think the best shot that I have is a Mauler heavy team. If you notice, some of the teams that I win don't have Thoran, so it's ofc better then. And many of the teams have Thoran on the other side of the wall (instead of center), so he gets isolated there bu Shakir (and cant ulti the others)
@@iamD2 what kind comp are you using? From my experience Alsa is not very reliable if enemy team has Thoran, but I haven't really tested her that much on normal arena (I do use her on supreme arena)
@@ElfeYT alsa, arden, eiron lilymay, damian. On the first map you showcased. The two tiles on the side will be alsa infront with arden. It basicly will disrupt any thoran comp. The only issue is that that team gets countered by a full wilder lenya team tho, but for attack its great
@@iamD2 Oh yeh, LM will likely interrupt Thorans first ultimate? Yeh could be interesting for sure, I will give it a try when I get LM to S+ (I'm 1 copy away). Have you had success against Scarlita/Thoran/LM/2 healer teams with it?
hehe, yeh, that is a good question 😅 A lot of it depends on what other heroes they use and the placement, but If they use Phraesto + Scarlita + LM, it's really hard to do I'm afraid. AOE like Taline/Arden/Shakir can work. Scarlita can work. Sometimes Vala can work if they leave important heroes at the back.
honestly they should change/balance Arena 3. that right/left side area is just too safe and heavily counters assassin comps which ends up having to go against it with mirror comps. im in the top 100 and i've seen 90% of players use that map.
it would definitely make things more interesting, most people use it for sure. I've seen people testing things with the new special map 5, but I don't really know if it will be meta after a while, maybe for some specific teams.
Can't you give us a link to the document you present in the video? In the part of how to win it is very useful to be able to see the level of the weapon of the heroes.
hmm....it's made with a website called Miro, I could maybe try sharing access to that board, but maybe it's easier if I can move them to Google Sheet and share there. I can check what it would look like in Google sheets later today.
Nothing concrete really, I think because he had pretty mixed reviews not many people pulled for him (at least on the servers that I play on), so I don't really have experience attacking against him. I did try doing few attacks with him on my friends account, but it seems pretty fiddly, I tested something like killing enemy healer with Vala while using the Curelock and it worked, but you still have to deal with rest of the enemy team (scarlita etc) and you are kind of sacrificing 1 slot for having the Dun in your team (tho the Dun was not S+)
haha, that is correct! I'm sure that the accent gives that away anyway, but Phraesto is even a special case in that, I never bothered to think how he is supposed to be pronounced, so i just say "pesto"
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tiny.cc/arena-defense-examples || I added the examples show here to Google sheet file - let me know what you think about it?
Latest promo code: YHBFEBHSNK
You can also now craft elite level charms for any hero!
00:00 Intro
00:46 Team 1: Lily May, Scarlita, Thoran, 2xHealers
06:05 Team 2: Phraesto instead of Thoran
11:56 Team 3: No Lily May
14:19 Team 4: No Scarlita
16:56 Team 5: Talene
20:38 How to win against some of these teams
Took a 1 month break between seasons so I don't have Lily May ascended. Regained my Top 20 spot in normal arena comfortably using the 1st defense team in your "no Lily May" teams only losing to heavy whale teams. Good work as always
Would love to see an updated version of this video monthly (maybe not as in-depth - but just a summary if the best pvp defenses you are coming across)
My ISP is blocking access to the google sheet file - sadly :/
@@zacharytresidentdigimonenj3397 hmm... I wonder is there anything I can do to fix that?
Yeh, I could probably do something like that for sure :)
@@ElfeYT probably not, nobworries. more so posted it because I'm curious if others are experiencing the same thing.
Please
Thank you very much
please make more supreme arena defense and attack!!
Thank you for the comment, I plan to make more at some point for sure :)
Elfe, what is your discord server?
Hey! I don't currently have a discord server because my channel is so new, but if you want to message me in discord, you can find me from the AFK Journey Official discord under the CreatorZone tag. I might make a discord server at some point, but I will mention it in a video intro if I do :)
Hey dude I tried these mauler heavy teams against the Wilder comps and they just don't seem to be working. I have all the heroes S+ and most of them +10 except for Antandra who's +5, and I'm still getting beat pretty hard. One game Thoran wiped the entire team with his second ulti. I don't know how those comps are supposed to actually be able to kill the Wilder teams. Edit: I just tried a 3rd time against a Scarlita variant with Lily using your exact comp and that lost too.
Hey, thank you for the comment. If you want to send me example on discord I can try to see if there is something I would change. The thing about fighting Scarlita teams is, that there is pretty much always a chance that you will loose, even if you have your own Scarlita (if you do, I would recommend using a team with her). Also if you have a good Lily May, I would maybe try building a team around her instead of the ones that I'm using, but since I don't have Lily/Scarlita on this account, I think the best shot that I have is a Mauler heavy team. If you notice, some of the teams that I win don't have Thoran, so it's ofc better then. And many of the teams have Thoran on the other side of the wall (instead of center), so he gets isolated there bu Shakir (and cant ulti the others)
Use alsa, it does wonders vs wilder comps
@@iamD2 what kind comp are you using? From my experience Alsa is not very reliable if enemy team has Thoran, but I haven't really tested her that much on normal arena (I do use her on supreme arena)
@@ElfeYT alsa, arden, eiron lilymay, damian. On the first map you showcased. The two tiles on the side will be alsa infront with arden. It basicly will disrupt any thoran comp. The only issue is that that team gets countered by a full wilder lenya team tho, but for attack its great
@@iamD2 Oh yeh, LM will likely interrupt Thorans first ultimate? Yeh could be interesting for sure, I will give it a try when I get LM to S+ (I'm 1 copy away). Have you had success against Scarlita/Thoran/LM/2 healer teams with it?
how to beat phraesto defense without using phraesto?
hehe, yeh, that is a good question 😅 A lot of it depends on what other heroes they use and the placement, but If they use Phraesto + Scarlita + LM, it's really hard to do I'm afraid. AOE like Taline/Arden/Shakir can work. Scarlita can work. Sometimes Vala can work if they leave important heroes at the back.
Is there any replacement for scarlita? How abt eironn?
Eironn get Countered By Lily
M+ +10 Phraesto is good enough to start using him instead of thoran? and +15 Scarlita Supreme
I would say that M+ +10 presto can work for sure, I would give it a try at least, but he gets better with the +15 giving ability resummon the copy
@@ElfeYT Working for now, im farming almost everyone lol xD thanks
@@DeadISR Nice! Yeh Phraesto is really good for pvp in my opinnion, very flexible
honestly they should change/balance Arena 3. that right/left side area is just too safe and heavily counters assassin comps which ends up having to go against it with mirror comps. im in the top 100 and i've seen 90% of players use that map.
it would definitely make things more interesting, most people use it for sure. I've seen people testing things with the new special map 5, but I don't really know if it will be meta after a while, maybe for some specific teams.
Can't you give us a link to the document you present in the video? In the part of how to win it is very useful to be able to see the level of the weapon of the heroes.
hmm....it's made with a website called Miro, I could maybe try sharing access to that board, but maybe it's easier if I can move them to Google Sheet and share there. I can check what it would look like in Google sheets later today.
@@ElfeYT Nice, thank you!
@@pauloneto7561 Do you think this format would make sense? tiny.cc/arena-defense-examples
@@ElfeYT It's perfect, it's enough and easy to understand. Just like it is in the video, it will help a lot.
Elfe, any thoughts on Dun?
Nothing concrete really, I think because he had pretty mixed reviews not many people pulled for him (at least on the servers that I play on), so I don't really have experience attacking against him. I did try doing few attacks with him on my friends account, but it seems pretty fiddly, I tested something like killing enemy healer with Vala while using the Curelock and it worked, but you still have to deal with rest of the enemy team (scarlita etc) and you are kind of sacrificing 1 slot for having the Dun in your team (tho the Dun was not S+)
thks you
im crying for your discord server
map 3 are anti-reinier map
Yeh for sure! map 4 also has good Reinier protection, but map 3 is clearly the more popular one.
You are finnish right, your accent gave that away instantly. Try to say Phraesto next video and not prästost lmfao
haha, that is correct! I'm sure that the accent gives that away anyway, but Phraesto is even a special case in that, I never bothered to think how he is supposed to be pronounced, so i just say "pesto"