as an avid Reiner-Odie comp user: -the con of putting odie in your backline, especially in Arena 3, is he can easily die to enemy Thoran. -use Confining artifact and don't be afraid of swapping him to the enemy backline. -don't swap him against the enemy backline dps unless they have enlightening spell -odie's first ultimate can easily be cancelled by lily may since he has a headstart in energy. this is a detriment to your strategy if you're swapping him to the backline so you need to have someone that would make lily may use up her skill at the start of the battle (eironn, niru, bryon) -this strat works really well if you have another backline assassin like Vala
I just live for the way you talk! As you keep speaking, even when you are speaking clearly in english, sometimes it's just like I'm hearing mandarin chinese (even tho I can perfectly understand what you are saying) It just sounds like it lol English is not my first language as well, so it's so fun to see how different accents transform the language. Sorry if this sounded like I was mocking your english, it was not the idea, actually you speak perfectly fine english, is just the sounds that are so cool and different because of your chinese background!
I played supreme arena, won once in ten attempts. Then the normal arena I lost all 10 attempts reducing me from legendary 3 to legendary 1. Worst day playing this game.
Very interested in Nara tech! I've found her useful in arena, to grab hewynn or Arden in the back, but didn't consider the strategy you mentioned in the last comp. Nara #1 fan! (Silvina still first love lol)
You see people put Tassi and Arden on the tiles and have Eironn in the center? No matter what you do, Tassi gets to ult first. And that makes you lose no matter what.
in my pesto scarlita team i use eironn instead of hyween, with damian and lily. against tuffer teams i use the shields on pesto over of the dmg reduction on lily. damians position matters alot, cuz your team spreads out in to two, if he to centric no one get‘s healed/buffed, you need to find the perfect spot.
can u talk more detail about position when attack and defend ? so i can bait lilly by put bryan at front when i attack and put him behind eiron when i deffend ?
In arena (so no seasonal skills), does reiner still heal if he doesn't get the swap? I faced an enemy reiner and made sure I positioned to avoid the swap, but reiner somehow had a ton of healing done on the stats screen. Where does this heal come from? Is there something I'm missing?
@@ಥ_ಥ-ಧ4ಲ i thought you mention about her own control immunity, out of that i really dont know why would you specifically ask about Hewynn cuz any, literally any, unit that got buff by that artifact will result the same? Is it my fault that your question is so unclear?
Can you take some time to put time stamps in your video? I am a veteran player and its interesting to see your take on things, but I do not need explanations on how Reiner works, or How Eironn double cast on the Quick cast spot. I do not say that you shouldn't explain those things, you should, it makes sense for a new player or players who simply lack that knowledge I simply want your take on positions and the actual combat to see how it handles, and many of your videos could be interesting but I'm not interested in watching a 20 min video about something that I only seek to fish 3 minutes of, would be way easier with time stamps to just go through the data I seek rather then me trying to look for it myself and just giving up and leaving the video in the middle just out of losing interest (especially with ads). Take this into consideration and I hope you can raise the quality of your videos for better entertainment for all crowed of players, new and veterans.
I hate the arena. Everyone’s using the same comp and everything just falls to rng. no fun at all and meta rarely changes. It’s all about who’s got the fattest wallet as compared to DR.
@@IRBitterSoB you can take off Damian or Hewynn, preferably Hewynn, and you should try to target Vala with Silvina. Also if you dont have Silvina at M+, which is a must for her to do her job, considering Nara to try to catch and cc Vala. Nara can work with only one copy but she needs others to kill her target since one copy Nara can't deal much dmg
@@IRBitterSoB ah so u talk about defensive team. Well if defensive then you can put Brutus at the back to somewhat prevent her to quickly kill your backline
I've gotten my scarlita to surpreme but against lily may meta teams, my team is dead before shes even down 😂 So shes been used like 25% percent of the time so i dont know if i have gotten much value from her😅
It's crazy how devs try to do 0 balance attempts. Lily is an assassin who has AOE damage. Assassin's already do crazy damage, therefore they're single target to keep them under control. Thoran is a tank that can 1 shot your entire team. Not only you have to kill him 3 times, but also he does that ridiculous AOE damage. How about balancing it a bit by adding some damage cap?? Healing is also out of control. Healers always heal more than damage those targets are taking. They'd probably never balance this game 🤔🤔
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What other secret tips and tricks do you have for others?
Can u do a normal arena defense guide
yeah, a normal arena defense guide without special heroes for poor mortal players... will be awesome!
as an avid Reiner-Odie comp user:
-the con of putting odie in your backline, especially in Arena 3, is he can easily die to enemy Thoran.
-use Confining artifact and don't be afraid of swapping him to the enemy backline.
-don't swap him against the enemy backline dps unless they have enlightening spell
-odie's first ultimate can easily be cancelled by lily may since he has a headstart in energy. this is a detriment to your strategy if you're swapping him to the backline so you need to have someone that would make lily may use up her skill at the start of the battle (eironn, niru, bryon)
-this strat works really well if you have another backline assassin like Vala
just a little addition: igor is not immune, he is just immune against , you can absolutely stun or interrupt him
Definitely interested in a Supreme Arena guide, thanks!
Lily May doesnt work as a Reinier swapping target. because she is "swapped" while in her ballet, the enemy just re-appears where ever in the map.
oh yes forgot to mention that! But yeah she still gets the buff/debuff on the enemy.
That's the video I've been waiting for, more of this kind of content please
Thanks for the video. I'm also waiting for the next one for Supreme Arena 💪🏻👍🏻👋🏻
Yes, please! I'm top 20 in my server Arena, but stuck outside top 100 Supreme Arena.
Rhys also control immune for first 8 seconds
Very informative, thank you!
I just live for the way you talk! As you keep speaking, even when you are speaking clearly in english, sometimes it's just like I'm hearing mandarin chinese (even tho I can perfectly understand what you are saying) It just sounds like it lol English is not my first language as well, so it's so fun to see how different accents transform the language. Sorry if this sounded like I was mocking your english, it was not the idea, actually you speak perfectly fine english, is just the sounds that are so cool and different because of your chinese background!
Its more singlish by nature :P
Zeebo doesnt have a chinese accent, he has a classic singaporean (singlish) accent lmao
I played supreme arena, won once in ten attempts. Then the normal arena I lost all 10 attempts reducing me from legendary 3 to legendary 1. Worst day playing this game.
@@paulogo3482 Gotta build your Eironn nuke team
Thanks for the guide. I was curious how to make use of the new map. Def do a guide for SA as well.
Very interested in Nara tech! I've found her useful in arena, to grab hewynn or Arden in the back, but didn't consider the strategy you mentioned in the last comp. Nara #1 fan! (Silvina still first love lol)
literally just looked up arena tips, thx Z
15:11 that Def comp is used a lot with the occasional Arden, what comps would beat that one better
You see people put Tassi and Arden on the tiles and have Eironn in the center? No matter what you do, Tassi gets to ult first. And that makes you lose no matter what.
Since u mentioned it, i personally would appreciate a vid on supreme arena
in my pesto scarlita team i use eironn instead of hyween, with damian and lily. against tuffer teams i use the shields on pesto over of the dmg reduction on lily.
damians position matters alot, cuz your team spreads out in to two, if he to centric no one get‘s healed/buffed, you need to find the perfect spot.
How to wins attack defend arena brion with eiron
Very very very thank you very much zee ❤❤❤, I'm confused by Lily's counter method.
아주 유익해요😊
can u talk more detail about position when attack and defend ?
so i can bait lilly by put bryan at front when i attack and put him behind eiron when i deffend ?
In arena (so no seasonal skills), does reiner still heal if he doesn't get the swap? I faced an enemy reiner and made sure I positioned to avoid the swap, but reiner somehow had a ton of healing done on the stats screen. Where does this heal come from? Is there something I'm missing?
Golden Ratio got heal
@@Zeeebo ohhh thanks I guess I'm just blind 😂
for the last comp with sinbad to deal with the scarlita meta, if i don't have phraesto are there any good alternatives?
hey zeebo, how about some stronger opponent teams? Like Phraesto Dionel Scarlita Lily Damien - how do you beat that on Arena III?
i mean i hardly see any of these teams in the top for the past month
6:00 what if hewynn is controll immune? can she still be swapped
Bro hewynn only control immune when she ult, how can she ult at the beginning of the match when the swap occured
no she wont be swapped if shes immune
@@daiphanduc5935 you can equip least position hero gets immune artifact??? bro
@@Zeeebo thanks
@@ಥ_ಥ-ಧ4ಲ i thought you mention about her own control immunity, out of that i really dont know why would you specifically ask about Hewynn cuz any, literally any, unit that got buff by that artifact will result the same? Is it my fault that your question is so unclear?
What happens when you swap damian with reinier?
your target will still get swapped to damian's position
@@anonnymus3652 So does that mean Damian is also good for teleporting enemies and sniping them off, right?
Who is “Daliah”?
Can u test satrana buff can worrk wirh dionel ?
Nope it doesn't. Satrana is a permanent buff
Can you take some time to put time stamps in your video? I am a veteran player and its interesting to see your take on things, but I do not need explanations on how Reiner works, or How Eironn double cast on the Quick cast spot.
I do not say that you shouldn't explain those things, you should, it makes sense for a new player or players who simply lack that knowledge
I simply want your take on positions and the actual combat to see how it handles, and many of your videos could be interesting but I'm not interested in watching a 20 min video about something that I only seek to fish 3 minutes of, would be way easier with time stamps to just go through the data I seek rather then me trying to look for it myself and just giving up and leaving the video in the middle just out of losing interest (especially with ads).
Take this into consideration and I hope you can raise the quality of your videos for better entertainment for all crowed of players, new and veterans.
Thank u for your advice. Sometimes I just get really busy to pin down the time stamps but I will take note of that for future versions of such videos!
Nara tips pls...❤
So hawt. Such good tips.
I hate the arena. Everyone’s using the same comp and everything just falls to rng. no fun at all and meta rarely changes. It’s all about who’s got the fattest wallet as compared to DR.
What is a defense against Vala? If you were using Thoran/hewynn/Lily/scarlita/damien, and keep losing to vala, what change would you make?
Lily and Silvina will do the job
@@daiphanduc5935 Which of the characters would you replace with Silvina, and where would you place her in a defensive formation like at 12:35?
@@IRBitterSoB you can take off Damian or Hewynn, preferably Hewynn, and you should try to target Vala with Silvina. Also if you dont have Silvina at M+, which is a must for her to do her job, considering Nara to try to catch and cc Vala. Nara can work with only one copy but she needs others to kill her target since one copy Nara can't deal much dmg
@@daiphanduc5935 I am not sure how to target Vala when they are attacking my defensive formation.
@@IRBitterSoB ah so u talk about defensive team. Well if defensive then you can put Brutus at the back to somewhat prevent her to quickly kill your backline
I've gotten my scarlita to surpreme but against lily may meta teams, my team is dead before shes even down 😂
So shes been used like 25% percent of the time so i dont know if i have gotten much value from her😅
Yeah it sucks that Lily May dominates the arena meta so much.
Only solution is just to just swipe and get a full cele/hypo team
It's crazy how devs try to do 0 balance attempts. Lily is an assassin who has AOE damage. Assassin's already do crazy damage, therefore they're single target to keep them under control.
Thoran is a tank that can 1 shot your entire team. Not only you have to kill him 3 times, but also he does that ridiculous AOE damage. How about balancing it a bit by adding some damage cap??
Healing is also out of control. Healers always heal more than damage those targets are taking.
They'd probably never balance this game 🤔🤔
cringe take