Footnote: The Roman Catholic Church considers Hosokawa Tama a martyr. Her statue stands in front of the Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin, Tamatsukuri, Osaka. (My wife is a descendant of Tama's brother.)
You know, every time I start watching a docudrama, I want to know more of the story and the un Hollywood truth. And Here it is, my favorite historical channel giving me the truth of a time in history. Thanks very much.
I love how he decides to do “the true story of” whatever series is most popular at any given time. The mainstream crap draws you in and then you can come here to see what really happened. I have found this channel to be fairly accurate without regard for what is popular to believe. ❤
shogun is so bad compare to reality what you expect from a american story written in 1970 how many time before we get a japanese docu drama on jfk assasination ...
@@jessicalacasse6205 It is a fictionalized story of characters and events that parallell and resemble real history. It makes no claim to being "true". According to various historians the setting, customes, dialogue and interactions is very accurate, and specifically a lot more accurate than the more romanticized picture that is painted by most Japanese shows set in the period.
My favorite story I heard regarding Hosokawa Gracia is the one about the blood-stained dress. The story goes that one day Gracia's husband Hosokawa Tadaoki killed a house servant right in front of Gracia because he "didn't like the way he was looking at her". As he walked away, he wiped the blood off his blade with the hem of her dress. Gracia, however, would continue to wear that same dress day after day, quietly going about her daily routine with the blood stain clearly visible for everyone to see. She kept this up for several days until Tadaoki finally could no longer stand the humiliation and was forced to apologize and had to beg her to get changed.
NO. it's wrong story. Hosokawa was a very very gerous man. one day, a gardner he greeting Hosokawa’ s wife, He got very angry, and killed the gardenerman....He's love was very heavy for her wife... He loyed her wife crazy.
The flow of the river is incessant, and yet its water is never the same, while along the still pools foam floats, now vanishing, now forming, never staying long: So it is with men and women and all their dwelling places here on earth
I thought this was the most ridiculous thing to say. You don't get to control either of those two things unless you kill yourself. And since suicide was itself determined by social rules, most of the time you weren't controlling that, either. Just dumb writing.
@@Chris-fn4dfYou get the hand fate has dealt you, but how you chose to live that life is you choice. You also chose how to meet your death. Not the manner and time of death, but the way in which you face it. That's what is meant.
As depicted in the 1980 Shogun, certainly. The current version completely misses a wonderful opportunity to show the full measure of her strength, intelligence, and courage.
When I was a student at the Osaka University of Foreign Studies (Minoh City, Osaka Prefecture), my friend had to go to the local hospital. It was Garashia Hospital, named after Hosokawa Gracia. Their staff included both nuns and laypersons. There was also a Catholic nun's convent in Minoh. The sisters were really nice, especially Sister Makoto, she was absolutely great, the liveliest person I have ever seen.
This women stole my heart! What an amazing actress! She gonna have a lot of roles and awards coming. I was so angry when they wouldn’t let her through but what an amazing scene with amazing actors all around… extras too.
I cried through the entire episode! I mean I knew what was coming but kept secretly hoping there writers might go.in a different direction. Sadly they didn't...'a flower is only a flower because it falls' 😢
The true story after that The details of Gracia's conversion, from the beginning to the end, were reported to the home country by Jesuit missionaries at the time. Based on the information transmitted through such documents, a Latin play "A Mighty Woman...Also Known as Grazia, Queen of Tango" was created based on the true story of Gracia. The play premiered as a musical drama at the Jesuit educational institution in Vienna on July 31, 1698, to celebrate the name day of Holy Roman Empress Eleonore Magdalene.[The script was written by Johann Baptist Adolf, head of the Jesuit school to which the Habsburgs were worshipped at the time, and the music was composed by Johann Bernhard Staudt. In a summary of the play, Adolf states that the protagonist of the story is "Grazia, Queen of Tango." Furthermore, he also clearly states that the direct source he used when writing was the 13th chapter of the first part of the German translation of "History of the Church: The Spread of Catholicism Throughout the World" by Cornelius Hazard, entitled "History of the Church in Japan: The Conversion of the Queen of Tango and Her Christian Faith." In the play, Grazia's death is depicted as a martyr. She endured the cruelty of her ignorant and barbaric husband, but maintained her faith, eventually losing her life to reform the tyrant, making it a moral story for Christians. The play was especially popular with the princesses of the Austrian Habsburgs, and later Marie Antoinette also saw it with her mother when she was girlhood, and it influenced her as well. Gracia married Tadaoki Hosokawa at the age of 15, and Marie married Louis XVI of France at the age of 14. Both of them died at the age of 37. ＊TANGO is One of the ritsuryo provinces that were once the local administrative divisions of Japan
Watching Shōgun 2024 while rewatching Shōgun 1980. The original Toda Mariko, Shimada Yoko, died in 2022. For her memorable portrayal of Toda Mariko, she won a Golden Globe and was nominated for an Emmy. She probably would have been very happy watching Anna Sawai reprise her role. ruclips.net/user/shorts7tjGZuHAilM
Mitsuhide was essentially the Japanese Brutus. Highly respected, highly esteemed, and was the most important piece in the downfall of his formerly closest friend, Nobunaga.
Thank you for the real history of the character Toda Mariko and of the period in which she lived. It's always nice to learn the facts of the people behind the characters as presented in Clavell's novels and on screen. Many think that Clavell's novel, and the now two on screen renditions of it, are in fact 100% true historical fact. The novel weaves fact with fiction to make the story - and I do suggest to anyone to read the book! I enjoy 'historical' fiction very much, and like it more when an author has done research while writing to at least present the major bits as they truly were in the past.
In the novel, the dictator Goroda (historical counterpart- Oda Nobunaga) went out of his way to insult and denigrate Mariko's father, who snapped one day and murdered Goroda. He then led the Akechi Clan in a rebellion against the man who would become the Taiko, who was jealous of Akechi. She expected to die but to spite her Buntaro refused her permission to commit seppuku, so Mariko refused to have sex with him and insulted him in private whenever she could. She had converted to Christianity in the wake of her father's rebellion and it helped her deal with the pain and loss. Toda Mariko had long sought revenge against the Taiko's family for the destruction of her clan and family, and the mission to extract the hostages from Osaka Castle suited that revenge nicely.
My favorite rumor of the period was that Tokugawa Ieyasu somehow convinced Akechi Mitsuhide to betray Oda Nobunaga. In 1579 Nobunaga accused Ieyasu's wife, Lady Tsukiyama, and their son, Nobuyasu, of conspiring to assassinate him. Ieyasu was forced to execute his own wife and ordered his son to commit seppuku. Some thinks, in his secret heart, he never forgave Nobunaga. He may have planned to seize power himself but Toyotomi Hideyoshi beat him to it.
Well there was an earlier conflict that made Toyotomi Hideyoshi the undisputed successor of Oda Nobunaga's legacy, and yes it was against Tokugawa Ieyasu. But Ieyasu's ally then was Oda Nobunaga's son, Oda Nobukatsu.
Why get your hands dirt when you can manipulate others into doing it for you. In the new Shogun remake, the character based on Tokugawa Ieyasu is trying to teach his son how to use people. The show also brought up that Tokugawa used others to eliminate allies he wanted out of the way, but couldn't do it himself personal. Otherwise he might lose other allies.
Nobunaga humiliated Mitsuhide publicly. He kicked him, scattered the dishes he had lain out when hosting a meal for his peers, and mocked his hair loss. Not a smart thing to do to one of your most warlike generals. Success had made Nobunaga careless. Don’t bully your most proficient killers…
I'm curious where all this "Mitsuhide was a bad ass fighter" comes from. He wasn't known to be a proficient warrior at all, especially not next to the likes of Shibata Katsuie, Maeda Toshiie, Nagahide Niwa, Hashiba Hideyoshi, Yasuke, etc. He in fact won several of his most important battles through negotiation and politics. Like, genuinely, I'm curious? Did I miss some new discovery of historical records or something? I'd love to hear more about his battle prowess if it was a factor, I've never seen or heard of him described in that way though.
@@weeboftheleft5113 First I’d sight his campaigns from 1575-1578. The fact that the Shogun chose him for Protector and turned to Nobunaga only after he declined and recommended Nobunaga. The fact that Nobunaga thought of him as in his top three generals. His “diplomacy” was not accounted to be a negative trait, any more than Hideyoshis.
@@weeboftheleft5113 Nobunaga was served by over 30 generals. Mitsuhide was held by Nobunaga to be among the best of them. Being regarded among the best by your lord out of a field of 30+ leaders of Samurai was not an achievement generally reached by the panty waisted.
I'm Japanese woman. My grandmother's family was a Christian feudal lord's team member. At that time, Lord change his religeous,team member changes their faith in the same way.My granma married, she changed her faith buddhism.😅because of her husband family's religion.www
read the hostorical novel written by Eiji Yoshikawa : Taiko. there are srory about many great Japanese Daimyo Oda Nobonaga, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, Ieyasu Tokugawa and many other great generals.
@@JT-st9yj Religion is a social construct. All religions preach tolerance, caring for each other and putting others first. If people truly follow their beliefs in their god or gods there would be no war.
@@historyprofiles I did it at first I thought it was a spoiler for The Shogun but I realized it wasn't. I just don't want to know any information on the show until the entire season is done so I can binge watch it.
Honnoji Incident(Akechi killed Oda(Kuroda) by the troops of 13,000) is one of the maximum mystery of Japanese history. There is another mystery. "Nikko Tosho-gu Shinto Shrine" (World Heritage Site) is the famous tourist spot .It's constructed as graveyard of Tokugawa Ieyasu(Toranaga) and it plays a role of guardian deity of the capital Tokyo(Edo) , and it's located in the due north of Tokyo (Japan has culture of vengeful spirit and feng shui(Chinese Astrology)). Another mystery is that there is the strange place name near the Nikko Tosho-gu.The name is "Akechi-daira(plain)" Why did Tokugawa Shogunate give the name of the traitor ！？
Tadaoki has some crazy anecdotes about Gracia because he loves her so much. He cut off the cook's head because his hair was mixed in with Gracia's food. He decapitated the gardener who was watching Gracia. Since Christ was a man, he cut off the ears and nose of the maid who invited Gracia to Christianity.
Being Christian Catholic is meant for everyone but not everyone faith, hope or LOVE are strong enough to stand. Supernatural Faith! God bless u Hosokawa Gracia!
I pity you if you really believe that. The Church slaughtered thousands who refused to convert. They killed Jews, heretics, and indigenous people all to satisfy the wickedness of their intolerance. In the World to Come they will be judged by the Eternal One and the evil they did in His name. Particularly as it wasn’t until the 1960 that the Pope admitted the Church had intentionally mistranslated G-do’s Holy Word to shore up their lies and the Pope finally apologized and admitted the Christian bible’s translation of Isaiah 7:14 was wrong. After nearly 2000 years of cruelty, it was too little, too late. Innocent Jews were murdered for refusing to profane scripture and for that, they were murdered.
Christians may have thought they were saving us Japanese back during the sengoku era but you were mostly involving yourself in a war that doesn't involve you because you wanted land for your churches and the huge amount of silver and gold in Japan.
I feel like mariko didn't appreciate buntaro sama enough because he complained that she's cold towards him always ik she hated him because she was married to him and he wouldn't let her commit seppuku because he loved her even tho he was distant and cold but she let an unknown man close to her or shared her emotions when he hated her husbands and buntaro was a great samurai while anjin didn't know anything he wasn't much appreciated even by lord toronaga and I'm talking abt the series idk weather this happened irl or not
According to The Yamato Dynasty by Sterling Seagrave (2001 p.82), Empress Sadako and her subsequent heirs including Emperor Hirohito were Quaker Christians among other government officials. The other factions in Japanese government wanted to keep this hush hush so seeing how there are so few Christians in Japan despite their admiration for other developed Christian nations, I think this would be a fascinating topic to cover in a video. Perhaps if Japanese people embrace the fact that the Imperial family among other government officials are Christians, more would convert to Christianity.
Far more than eye candy in the book and both series. A strong honourable woman whose death led to immense change in Japan. She is played brilliantly by both actresses in each series and if you can’t see how a strong impactful woman can lead to world changing events it is completely beyond me. I personally would be so sad as to not be able to appreciate powerful people of both sexes it would be so limiting to have such a restricted view of peopple.
I think it might be more accurate that she did kill herself or rather allow the servant to kill her. Because the idea of killing yourself as a woman to protect your honor was very great in Japan and women even carry the knife just for that reason. But the Catholic faith at that time held that suicide meant you went to hell because you were not allowed to kill anything of God's creation that was human. As they definitely wanted the idea that there was a Japanese noble woman who had converted to their faith as that was good PR, I think they put out the idea that the servant killed her. It was a better look for the religion.
I wish they hadnt changed the names around for the Shogun show. These HUGE names in Japanese history hit SO HARD now that I know who they REALLY were, and what the final battle was called; Sekigahara. LEGENDARY battle.
It's a form of indirect characterization. I mean, how would you be able to comprehend her environment and personality if he just directly told you who she is. Would you comprehend the decisions she made or didn't make if he just gave you a checklist of who she was or any accomplishments she achieved? Of course, he is going to speak about the men in her life as they helped create the person she was or, at the very least, the decisions she made. That is the same for every person in this world.
Her father was often humiriated by his master , oda nobunaga , in front of his men, also he was against what his master was doing, , oda nobunaga wasnt always good master,
The narrator's pronunciation is passable but needs improvement. The explanation is excellent. However, this story makes me wish that today's historians knew full details about the onna-musha, such as Tomoe Gozen, instead of being left with only vague mythohistorical accounts of such figures. I could say the same about the kunoichi.
A scorched-earth policy is a military strategy of destroying everything that allows an enemy military force to be able to fight a war, including the deprivation and destruction of water, food, humans, animals, plants and any kind of tools and infrastructure. That’s my understanding what’s yours ?
Interesting video. However, your Japanese pronunciations were all over the place and made it hard to follow. For some you attempted to pronounce the Japanese words correctly, with others you just went with whatever/British English reading. 😅 Japanese words can be difficult, but consistency in pronunciation will help with following the video (whether you choose to do the correct Japanese pronunciation or otherwise).
A brave attempt…but pronunciation abysmal (Yamazaki, not Yamakazi…for example). Fair coverage of the history but value diminished by anglo inability to pronounce Japanese names. Shows an insensitivity to local language.
No, just no. If he did pronounce it right then that would be cultural appropriation? 😂 He is not Japanese so its understandable if he gets the pronunciation wrong. Go correct someone trying to speak English and tell them to make sure they pronounce it right. I bet you would never do that 😏. Stop trying to speak for an entire people. If it's so offensive to you then make your own video instead of discouraging him.
Your critique on his insufficient grasp of Nipponese linguistic intonation would have held more water had you not inadvertently exposed your obvious insensitivity to your own elementary errors in written English grammar. A certain quote regarding throwing stones and living in glass houses is appropriate in this regard.
No it doesn't. Toda = all (feminine) mariko (even with the k changed to c) means nothing, it is missing another letter for the masculine and 2 letters to make it the feminine and match toda. It was close, but not close enough lol
Footnote: The Roman Catholic Church considers Hosokawa Tama a martyr. Her statue stands in front of the Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin, Tamatsukuri, Osaka. (My wife is a descendant of Tama's brother.)
You know, every time I start watching a docudrama, I want to know more of the story and the un Hollywood truth. And Here it is, my favorite historical channel giving me the truth of a time in history. Thanks very much.
Thank you so much Rolf! Hope you enjoyed the video!
I love how he decides to do “the true story of” whatever series is most popular at any given time. The mainstream crap draws you in and then you can come here to see what really happened. I have found this channel to be fairly accurate without regard for what is popular to believe. ❤
Mariko is a modern name.
shogun is so bad compare to reality what you expect from a american story written in 1970 how many time before we get a japanese docu drama on jfk assasination ...
@@jessicalacasse6205 It is a fictionalized story of characters and events that parallell and resemble real history. It makes no claim to being "true". According to various historians the setting, customes, dialogue and interactions is very accurate, and specifically a lot more accurate than the more romanticized picture that is painted by most Japanese shows set in the period.
My favorite story I heard regarding Hosokawa Gracia is the one about the blood-stained dress. The story goes that one day Gracia's husband Hosokawa Tadaoki killed a house servant right in front of Gracia because he "didn't like the way he was looking at her". As he walked away, he wiped the blood off his blade with the hem of her dress. Gracia, however, would continue to wear that same dress day after day, quietly going about her daily routine with the blood stain clearly visible for everyone to see. She kept this up for several days until Tadaoki finally could no longer stand the humiliation and was forced to apologize and had to beg her to get changed.
NO. it's wrong story.
Hosokawa was a very very gerous man. one day, a gardner he greeting Hosokawa’ s wife,
He got very angry, and killed the gardenerman....He's love was very heavy for her wife...
He loyed her wife crazy.
@@miki-fb7is
若い頃の忠興が、短気でかつ凶暴な人物であった事は確かです。
それは当時の基準でも異常なほどだったとの記録が多数残っています。
しかし、歳をとり別人のように穏やかな人物になったのも事実です。
@@MsCyou0157
人間、年取ると、性格が、穏やかになっていきますものね。
仏様に近づけば近づくほど。
逆バージョンな人は、たまにいますけど。(^ ^)
She was so loved by everyone that her tragic death essentially woke up everyone in the realm, and realized this war needed to end as soon as possible.
I hope you enjoyed the video Bobby!
@@historyprofiles❤pp
"We live and we die. We control nothing beyond that" - Mariko
So simple but so true.
The flow of the river is incessant, and yet its water is never the same, while along the still pools foam floats, now vanishing, now forming, never staying long: So it is with men and women and all their dwelling places here on earth
I thought this was the most ridiculous thing to say. You don't get to control either of those two things unless you kill yourself. And since suicide was itself determined by social rules, most of the time you weren't controlling that, either. Just dumb writing.
@@Chris-fn4dfYou get the hand fate has dealt you, but how you chose to live that life is you choice. You also chose how to meet your death. Not the manner and time of death, but the way in which you face it. That's what is meant.
So true here here
Mariko, as depicted in SHOGAN, is one of the most honorable women ever depicted. It is satisfying to see that in real life the real lady was also.
As depicted in the 1980 Shogun, certainly.
The current version completely misses a wonderful opportunity to show the full measure of her strength, intelligence, and courage.
I think her infidelity is dishonorable, and against her religion. She was definitely an asset to Toranaga though.
When I was a student at the Osaka University of Foreign Studies (Minoh City, Osaka Prefecture), my friend had to go to the local hospital. It was Garashia Hospital, named after Hosokawa Gracia. Their staff included both nuns and laypersons. There was also a Catholic nun's convent in Minoh. The sisters were really nice, especially Sister Makoto, she was absolutely great, the liveliest person I have ever seen.
This women stole my heart! What an amazing actress! She gonna have a lot of roles and awards coming. I was so angry when they wouldn’t let her through but what an amazing scene with amazing actors all around… extras too.
I cried through the entire episode!
I mean I knew what was coming but kept secretly hoping there writers might go.in a different direction. Sadly they didn't...'a flower is only a flower because it falls' 😢
Anna Sawai ❤ hubba hubba
I liked the book but I thought it was simply a novel. I didn't realize I was actually learning some Japanese History. Thanks for the lesson.
After watching countless Taiga dramas, I became really fascinated with her story.
The true story after that
The details of Gracia's conversion, from the beginning to the end, were reported to the home country by Jesuit missionaries at the time. Based on the information transmitted through such documents, a Latin play "A Mighty Woman...Also Known as Grazia, Queen of Tango" was created based on the true story of Gracia. The play premiered as a musical drama at the Jesuit educational institution in Vienna on July 31, 1698, to celebrate the name day of Holy Roman Empress Eleonore Magdalene.[The script was written by Johann Baptist Adolf, head of the Jesuit school to which the Habsburgs were worshipped at the time, and the music was composed by Johann Bernhard Staudt.
In a summary of the play, Adolf states that the protagonist of the story is "Grazia, Queen of Tango." Furthermore, he also clearly states that the direct source he used when writing was the 13th chapter of the first part of the German translation of "History of the Church: The Spread of Catholicism Throughout the World" by Cornelius Hazard, entitled "History of the Church in Japan: The Conversion of the Queen of Tango and Her Christian Faith."
In the play, Grazia's death is depicted as a martyr. She endured the cruelty of her ignorant and barbaric husband, but maintained her faith, eventually losing her life to reform the tyrant, making it a moral story for Christians. The play was especially popular with the princesses of the Austrian Habsburgs, and later Marie Antoinette also saw it with her mother when she was girlhood, and it influenced her as well.
Gracia married Tadaoki Hosokawa at the age of 15, and Marie married Louis XVI of France at the age of 14. Both of them died at the age of 37.
＊TANGO is One of the ritsuryo provinces that were once the local administrative divisions of Japan
Watching Shōgun 2024 while rewatching Shōgun 1980.
The original Toda Mariko, Shimada Yoko, died in 2022. For her memorable portrayal of Toda Mariko, she won a Golden Globe and was nominated for an Emmy.
She probably would have been very happy watching Anna Sawai reprise her role.
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That’s so cool. I’m new to this world so I didn’t know there was an original version. I’ll check it out. Do you have a preference?
@@stephaniespain9849the 1980 version is infinitely better.
Still the best Mariko.
Akechi family is such a tragic family.
Their tale was very tragic indeed, I hope you enjoyed the video
Mitsuhide was essentially the Japanese Brutus. Highly respected, highly esteemed, and was the most important piece in the downfall of his formerly closest friend, Nobunaga.
Her descendants continue to the present day, and she became Japan's 79th Prime Minister in 1993.
@@wadepsilon01
更に付け加えると、ガラシャの孫娘は天皇と結婚しました。
現在の天皇もガラシャの子孫です。
明智家は悲劇的な家族ですが、その血統は今も続いています。
明智家に勝利した豊臣家は滅亡した事を考えると皮肉な事です。
Thank you for the real history of the character Toda Mariko and of the period in which she lived. It's always nice to learn the facts of the people behind the characters as presented in Clavell's novels and on screen. Many think that Clavell's novel, and the now two on screen renditions of it, are in fact 100% true historical fact. The novel weaves fact with fiction to make the story - and I do suggest to anyone to read the book! I enjoy 'historical' fiction very much, and like it more when an author has done research while writing to at least present the major bits as they truly were in the past.
Thank you so much for watching! It’s important for people to know the real stories of the people behind the characters!!
Mariko actress.. could not my eyes off her..
Seriously she was gorgeous
You have the perfect voice and cadence for these types of videos. Thank you!
Wow, thank you! It means a lot!
In the novel, the dictator Goroda (historical counterpart- Oda Nobunaga) went out of his way to insult and denigrate Mariko's father, who snapped one day and murdered Goroda. He then led the Akechi Clan in a rebellion against the man who would become the Taiko, who was jealous of Akechi. She expected to die but to spite her Buntaro refused her permission to commit seppuku, so Mariko refused to have sex with him and insulted him in private whenever she could. She had converted to Christianity in the wake of her father's rebellion and it helped her deal with the pain and loss. Toda Mariko had long sought revenge against the Taiko's family for the destruction of her clan and family, and the mission to extract the hostages from Osaka Castle suited that revenge nicely.
Always a great time to be here! Thank you for your awesome videos
Thank you for watching Elke!!! It means a lot!
@@historyprofiles
You are welcome Ollie! Sorry for the late reply, issues going on... Good night!
Just discovered your channel and look forward to more of your videos relating to Shogun.
More coming soon!
She had a pretty wild story - I'm going to have to start watching Shogun soon!
You need to Jared its good!
Tama(玉)
Mari(鞠)
Both words mean "ball"
However, Tama also means "beautiful stone'',''gem''
This is fascinating! than kyou so much for this deep dive
My favorite rumor of the period was that Tokugawa Ieyasu somehow convinced Akechi Mitsuhide to betray Oda Nobunaga. In 1579 Nobunaga accused Ieyasu's wife, Lady Tsukiyama, and their son, Nobuyasu, of conspiring to assassinate him. Ieyasu was forced to execute his own wife and ordered his son to commit seppuku. Some thinks, in his secret heart, he never forgave Nobunaga. He may have planned to seize power himself but Toyotomi Hideyoshi beat him to it.
Well there was an earlier conflict that made Toyotomi Hideyoshi the undisputed successor of Oda Nobunaga's legacy, and yes it was against Tokugawa Ieyasu. But Ieyasu's ally then was Oda Nobunaga's son, Oda Nobukatsu.
Why get your hands dirt when you can manipulate others into doing it for you. In the new Shogun remake, the character based on Tokugawa Ieyasu is trying to teach his son how to use people. The show also brought up that Tokugawa used others to eliminate allies he wanted out of the way, but couldn't do it himself personal. Otherwise he might lose other allies.
Ah the irony on that statement. Converted to Christianity to get gun powder weapons.
Nobunaga humiliated Mitsuhide publicly. He kicked him, scattered the dishes he had lain out when hosting a meal for his peers, and mocked his hair loss. Not a smart thing to do to one of your most warlike generals. Success had made Nobunaga careless. Don’t bully your most proficient killers…
I'm curious where all this "Mitsuhide was a bad ass fighter" comes from. He wasn't known to be a proficient warrior at all, especially not next to the likes of Shibata Katsuie, Maeda Toshiie, Nagahide Niwa, Hashiba Hideyoshi, Yasuke, etc. He in fact won several of his most important battles through negotiation and politics.
Like, genuinely, I'm curious? Did I miss some new discovery of historical records or something? I'd love to hear more about his battle prowess if it was a factor, I've never seen or heard of him described in that way though.
@@weeboftheleft5113 First I’d sight his campaigns from 1575-1578. The fact that the Shogun chose him for Protector and turned to Nobunaga only after he declined and recommended Nobunaga. The fact that Nobunaga thought of him as in his top three generals. His “diplomacy” was not accounted to be a negative trait, any more than Hideyoshis.
@@weeboftheleft5113 Nobunaga was served by over 30 generals. Mitsuhide was held by Nobunaga to be among the best of them. Being regarded among the best by your lord out of a field of 30+ leaders of Samurai was not an achievement generally reached by the panty waisted.
Thank you, I have subscribed to your channel.
And he doesn't forget the noble women. Thank you.
Hope you enjoyed Jared!
Very interesting. Well done sir!
Thank you for watching! I hope you enjoyed!
I'm Japanese woman.
My grandmother's family was a Christian feudal lord's team member. At that time, Lord change his religeous,team member changes their faith in the same way.My granma married, she changed her faith buddhism.😅because of her husband family's religion.www
Nice, this is quite good source of information. A little bit confusing though.
I love japanese history
Same! I hope you enjoyed the video!
read the hostorical novel written by Eiji Yoshikawa : Taiko. there are srory about many great Japanese Daimyo Oda Nobonaga, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, Ieyasu Tokugawa and many other great generals.
一方、農民たちはおにぎりをパクつきながら武将たちの合戦を観戦していた。でもそれは単なるピクニックではなかった。後の落武者狩りも控えていたからである。
Religious devotion causes so much destruction in all societies
Simply Not true.
Barbarism and Communism have committed hundreds of millions of genocidal murders over the centuries.
Well so doesn't the lack of religious devotion as we can witness in this country today. Sadly It is just human nature.
@@JT-st9yj Religion is a social construct. All religions preach tolerance, caring for each other and putting others first. If people truly follow their beliefs in their god or gods there would be no war.
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Crusaders "obeyed the voice of God."
Very interesting. Thank you for sharing. 💕 ^^
Thank you
Very good, thank you..
Thank you too!
Thank you for another good video
Thank you for watching I hope you enjoyed it!
@@historyprofiles I did it at first I thought it was a spoiler for The Shogun but I realized it wasn't. I just don't want to know any information on the show until the entire season is done so I can binge watch it.
@@-RONNIE it’s on the inspiration of the characters in the show, their lives differ a lot I think
@@historyprofiles yeah I know that's why I watched it I couldn't tell because of the character in the thumbnail but then I realized
Her death hurt me so much 😭
akechi mitsuhide reason for betraying oda nobunaga is really deep if u know the story u will not call him a traitor
I can't help but wonder how many people are aware of the vast differences between historical fact and fiction.
Honnoji Incident(Akechi killed Oda(Kuroda) by the troops of 13,000) is one of the maximum mystery of Japanese history.
There is another mystery.
"Nikko Tosho-gu Shinto Shrine" (World Heritage Site) is the famous tourist spot .It's constructed as graveyard of Tokugawa Ieyasu(Toranaga) and it plays a role of guardian deity of the capital Tokyo(Edo) , and it's located in the due north of Tokyo (Japan has culture of vengeful spirit and feng shui(Chinese Astrology)).
Another mystery is that there is the strange place name near the Nikko Tosho-gu.The name is "Akechi-daira(plain)"
Why did Tokugawa Shogunate give the name of the traitor ！？
I had no idea she was based on Gracia! I just didn't make that connection at all
Tadaoki has some crazy anecdotes about Gracia because he loves her so much.
He cut off the cook's head because his hair was mixed in with Gracia's food. He decapitated the gardener who was watching Gracia.
Since Christ was a man, he cut off the ears and nose of the maid who invited Gracia to Christianity.
@Chaosjelly106
細川忠興のいくつかのエピソードを紹介します。彼の心情を推測する手助けになれば幸いです。
忠興は、義理の父である明智光秀が裏切った時に、その娘であるガラシャを大きな危険を冒して助けた。
家来や家族は離婚を勧めたが、忠興は受け入れなかった。
当時の上級侍は、公式愛人を持つのが慣習だった。しかし、忠興は持っていなかった。
若い頃の忠興は、当時の基準から見ても 短気で凶暴な人物でした。
それに耐えられなくなったガラシャは離婚を考えるようになります。
当時も今も、日本の女性には離婚の自由と権利があります。
妻が夫に満足出来ない場合は、短い文章の手紙だけ残して離婚を宣言して出ていきます。
ところが、ガラシャはクリスチャンだったので離婚が出来ませんでした。教会でも離婚を相談しましたが、反対された為に諦めています。
忠興は、キリスト教を激しく嫌っていました。ガラシャがキリスト教徒になった時に激しく怒りました。
ガラシャの従者を斬り殺し、ガラシャに棄教を迫ります。
しかし、忠興はガラシャ自身に暴力を振るう事が出来ずキリスト教を黙認しました。
忠興は、ガラシャの葬儀の為に教会を自ら訪ねました。
ひどく嫌っていた教会に、ガラシャの葬儀をキリスト教の儀式で行ってほしいと要請しました。
忠興は年を取った後に、驚くほど柔和で理知的になりました。文化と芸術に熱中しました。忠興の作品は今でも多数残っています。どれも高い評価を得ています。
ガラシャと忠興の孫は、天皇家に嫁入りしました。現在の天皇まで血統は続いています。
"we bring you god, and gunpowder" 🙏🏼
the motivation they convert is a weapon.
Nice bro
Being Christian Catholic is meant for everyone but not everyone faith, hope or LOVE are strong enough to stand.
Supernatural Faith! God bless u Hosokawa Gracia!
I pity you if you really believe that. The Church slaughtered thousands who refused to convert. They killed Jews, heretics, and indigenous people all to satisfy the wickedness of their intolerance. In the World to Come they will be judged by the Eternal One and the evil they did in His name. Particularly as it wasn’t until the 1960 that the Pope admitted the Church had intentionally mistranslated G-do’s Holy Word to shore up their lies and the Pope finally apologized and admitted the Christian bible’s translation of Isaiah 7:14 was wrong. After nearly 2000 years of cruelty, it was too little, too late. Innocent Jews were murdered for refusing to profane scripture and for that, they were murdered.
Christians may have thought they were saving us Japanese back during the sengoku era but you were mostly involving yourself in a war that doesn't involve you because you wanted land for your churches and the huge amount of silver and gold in Japan.
thanks
Thank you for watching!!
Can anyone give me information of the image of Akechi Tama which reappears in the video now and again? I can find no reference to the artist.
I feel like mariko didn't appreciate buntaro sama enough because he complained that she's cold towards him always ik she hated him because she was married to him and he wouldn't let her commit seppuku because he loved her even tho he was distant and cold but she let an unknown man close to her or shared her emotions when he hated her husbands and buntaro was a great samurai while anjin didn't know anything he wasn't much appreciated even by lord toronaga and I'm talking abt the series idk weather this happened irl or not
She IS the true torture poet ✍🏻📿💌
"Fukushima Masanori the lord of Hiroshima "... that name sounds nuclear.
I thought exactly the same thing 😂
Ty
Thanks. ✌🏻👊🏼
Thank you for watching!!
Crimson SKy!
According to The Yamato Dynasty by Sterling Seagrave (2001 p.82), Empress Sadako and her subsequent heirs including Emperor Hirohito were Quaker Christians among other government officials. The other factions in Japanese government wanted to keep this hush hush so seeing how there are so few Christians in Japan despite their admiration for other developed Christian nations, I think this would be a fascinating topic to cover in a video. Perhaps if Japanese people embrace the fact that the Imperial family among other government officials are Christians, more would convert to Christianity.
Christianity of any kind has always been the start of much bloodshed. Brutal torture and seas of blood. 🐝
@@amandadassonville4043 "any" and "always" a bit of a stretch.
You read my mind
It was the Jesuits. Catholic priests, not Protestants
Probably the worst of Christianity is the Catholics. 🐝
The shogun drama series is so much more interesting than this we get it she was eye candy
Far more than eye candy in the book and both series. A strong honourable woman whose death led to immense change in Japan. She is played brilliantly by both actresses in each series and if you can’t see how a strong impactful woman can lead to world changing events it is completely beyond me. I personally would be so sad as to not be able to appreciate powerful people of both sexes it would be so limiting to have such a restricted view of peopple.
When you impose your beliefs on others through intimidation, it's a powder keg.
Well, Japan has been trying their best to subjugate Korea, The Philippines, and China for millennia so… par for the course?
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I think it might be more accurate that she did kill herself or rather allow the servant to kill her. Because the idea of killing yourself as a woman to protect your honor was very great in Japan and women even carry the knife just for that reason. But the Catholic faith at that time held that suicide meant you went to hell because you were not allowed to kill anything of God's creation that was human. As they definitely wanted the idea that there was a Japanese noble woman who had converted to their faith as that was good PR, I think they put out the idea that the servant killed her. It was a better look for the religion.
But killing yourself as a christian is a great sin and can landed yourself in hell.
Are these images of the people you're speaking about?
Yes most of them are pictures of the people at the time, and their name tags and titles and dates of birth are there below
Thank you!@@historyprofiles
I wish they hadnt changed the names around for the Shogun show.
These HUGE names in Japanese history hit SO HARD now that I know who they REALLY were, and what the final battle was called;
Sekigahara. LEGENDARY battle.
I'll be mad if they don't change the name.
Because historical facts and that Anglo-Saxonized novel are completely different.
Yeah, hopefully she wont die in the series. Right? Like c'mon, she is too nice man. Don't do this to me
Let me guess, the next one is Ishida Mitsunari (Ishido)
I’m considering it, he fought in a lot of battles and has a good history himself, will have to see how inspiring his true story is though
BGM is really Chinese.
Battle of Yamazaki not Yamakazi
This was supposed to be about a woman but all the narrator talked about were men.
The narratives around the men are paramount to understand marikos back story and what was going on in Japan at the time
It's a form of indirect characterization. I mean, how would you be able to comprehend her environment and personality if he just directly told you who she is.
Would you comprehend the decisions she made or didn't make if he just gave you a checklist of who she was or any accomplishments she achieved?
Of course, he is going to speak about the men in her life as they helped create the person she was or, at the very least, the decisions she made. That is the same for every person in this world.
i watched the entire shogun series in one day.. because of Anna Sawai.. lol.. HOT AS THE SUN!! lol
Her father was often humiriated by his master , oda nobunaga , in front of his men, also he was against what his master was doing, , oda nobunaga wasnt always good master,
The narrator's pronunciation is passable but needs improvement. The explanation is excellent. However, this story makes me wish that today's historians knew full details about the onna-musha, such as Tomoe Gozen, instead of being left with only vague mythohistorical accounts of such figures. I could say the same about the kunoichi.
marikoooo
She was a pawn.
Please do not confuse Roman Catholics with protestants.
You say it's the real history, but the image of Hosokawa Gracia used in this video is clearly AI generated.....
@@lunol2169 there is no real image of her I could find
Please learn what 'scorched earth' means... bc you don't know.
A scorched-earth policy is a military strategy of destroying everything that allows an enemy military force to be able to fight a war, including the deprivation and destruction of water, food, humans, animals, plants and any kind of tools and infrastructure. That’s my understanding what’s yours ?
As a person who lives by Bushido I love the Shogun series, Blessed Be.
I appreciate the history lesson, but you mispronounced every single name and location. It made it difficult to listen to.
Interesting bit of history. The narration is bloated and overwrought. Less made-up drama, please.
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1:36' what kind of BS medieval map is this? With countries like: Belarus, Ukraine, Romania and Israel.
Interesting video. However, your Japanese pronunciations were all over the place and made it hard to follow. For some you attempted to pronounce the Japanese words correctly, with others you just went with whatever/British English reading. 😅
Japanese words can be difficult, but consistency in pronunciation will help with following the video (whether you choose to do the correct Japanese pronunciation or otherwise).
The narrator's pronunciation of Japanese names is laughable. Surely he could have been tutored by a native Japanese?
Muskrat
A brave attempt…but pronunciation abysmal (Yamazaki, not Yamakazi…for example). Fair coverage of the history but value diminished by anglo inability to pronounce Japanese names. Shows an insensitivity to local language.
No, just no. If he did pronounce it right then that would be cultural appropriation? 😂
He is not Japanese so its understandable if he gets the pronunciation wrong. Go correct someone trying to speak English and tell them to make sure they pronounce it right. I bet you would never do that 😏.
Stop trying to speak for an entire people.
If it's so offensive to you then make your own video instead of discouraging him.
@@charissa6648 Too many English errors in this critique to deal with in the space and time available…but valiant attempt.
Your critique on his insufficient grasp of Nipponese linguistic intonation would have held more water had you not inadvertently exposed your obvious insensitivity to your own elementary errors in written English grammar. A certain quote regarding throwing stones and living in glass houses is appropriate in this regard.
@@Kulayyu How on earth is Yamakazi an example of ‘Nipponese linguistic intonation’…whatever that is?
Ieyasu did not ban Christianity. His son, the current Shogun, did.
There has not been a Shogun since 1867.
The current Shogun when Will Adams arrived Steve 🥳 (Hidetada)
Fun fact toda mariko means “all gay” in Spanish
No it doesn't. Toda = all (feminine) mariko (even with the k changed to c) means nothing, it is missing another letter for the masculine and 2 letters to make it the feminine and match toda. It was close, but not close enough lol
@@ButiBambero don’t ruin the fun, cmon man 🤣