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Plus there wasn't much mention of the Slave holding Union States in the vid. As they were allowed to keep there slaves even after the proclamation by Lincoln.
@@christopherevans2445Because they were already in the process of being freed and had been for a while. Maryland was really the only one that was allowed as a condition to join the Union. Also, Maryland is right next to DC.
Id like to see a video on the Hamas conflict from the Lebanese, Israeli or Egyptian lens. His piece on the battle for Mosul was superb. Would be equally if not moreso enlightening. Although now thinking of the algorithm's suppression of such things as well as commentor temperament he'd know itd be a good gamble. Yet the infographics show (😷) gets away with any topic.
Maybe its because it makes more sense to name a battle after its nearby settlement or city, rather than some random creek or landmark that was then momentarily important.
One nice thing about serving in the army for over 23 years, it allowed me to visit every Civil War battlefield 😂 from Missouri to Florida to Virginia to even New 😂Mexico😅
@@ryanmcwilliams8784on the bright side it’s always funny trolling em, lost one war and they’ve been so anal about it that they made an organization to intimidate a large group of people just wanting to live normally
If you're talking about Gettysburg, then, well the Confederate artillery tried to silence federal guns, but the Confederates we're known for firing too high, and their artillery wasn't as developed and accurate as federal. Therefore, not many Union guns we're silenced, and more Confederate guns we're destroyed instead.
Union civil war veteran and US President William McKinley believed that Confederate soldiers should be considered a tribute to American valor, stating that "every soldier's grave made during our unfortunate Civil War is a tribute to American valor," signifying his view that despite being on opposing sides, all Civil War soldiers, including Confederates, demonstrated bravery and should be honored as Americans.
George McClellen: I didn’t lose, I mearly failed to win! Abraham Lincoln: Don’t get your fans stirred up in some sort of Twitter Civil War! Frank Heffley: What was General Grant doing on the thermostat?!
Union civil war veteran and US President William McKinley believed that Confederate soldiers should be considered a tribute to American valor, stating that "every soldier's grave made during our unfortunate Civil War is a tribute to American valor," signifying his view that despite being on opposing sides, all Civil War soldiers, including Confederates, demonstrated bravery and should be honored as Americans.
Part of your statement is is true about the rich, but the rich north had plenary to do with the war as well. Virginia and 7 other states did not join the secession until after the union raised 100, 000 men to INVADE, the original 4 states that succeeded .
@@deesnutz84 Theres always money in war. Some will want to take advantage of that. The South ( the rich plantation owners) wanted to protect slavery, if the 4 original states that seceded lost their slaves others have would too... Its all very interesting nonetheless.
That isn't true. Slave owners actually make up a third of the Confederate Army, roughly proportional to the percentage of slave-owning families in the population.
Is see a lot of people say lost causer! How is saying quotes lost cause revisionism?????? Like bruh! Seriously socialist revisionists are brainwashed to see a fact that is pro confederate and they go lost cause!!!! Like last confederate was a Native American. Lost causer! Latinos, Jews, and even blacks like Holt Collier fought for the confederacy. Lost causer! Most confederates weren’t owners. Lost causer! Confederates were us veterans of 4 wars and even northerners respected them. Lost causer! The Union had 8 slave states during the war. Lost causer! 7 confederate states didn’t mention slavery in their articles and the 6 that did mentioned a whole lot more that would appeal to the non owner majority like “patriotism” “American revolution” “duty” “prosperity” “independence” “tranquility”, and so on. States rights definition is limited government. Lost causer!
To govern themselves as the Constitution outlined. As late as the failed Hampton Roads peace conference of February 1865, Lincoln was willing to compromise on slavery but not on union; the Confederates were not willing to compromise on union.
One thing I find sad about this war was many had to either fight or hide. Many in Texas, especially those who mustered in 1862 had to fight because of the confederate conscription law being passed and federal armies marching around burning towns.
@WarhawkYT it's funny you say that because there were lots of southern unionists throughout the Confederacy. In Texas for example most of the Mexican American population and most of the German immigrants sided with the union 😅
Fun Fact: Although the Battle of Chancellorsville resulted in a Confederate victory, Lee lost more men in that battle than Joseph Hooker. In fact, the South lost the American Civil War because they lost many of their irreplaceable men in frontal assaults against Union positions.
@@dubsy1026 Still, those men could not be easily replaced as opposed to the Union's own forces In fact, the South's best general was Joseph E. Johnston as he was the only one who even thought about strategically picking battles for the Confederacy to battle against the Union.
@@jarrodkopf6813 True enough they couldn't be replaced in the long run. Don't agree with the positive assessment of Johnston. On the Peninsula, he was pushed rapidly back to Richmond. His attempt to launch a counterattack went nowhere at Seven Pines, and without his wounding and replacement by Lee Richmond would have fallen in 1862. Similarly at Atlanta, he basically backed up down a hundred miles of defensible terrain and doomed the city (Hood who took over had an equally wrong headed-approach in the opposite direction, but was playing a losing hand regardless). At Vicksburg in 63 he sat by passively whilst Pemberton was cut-off. Instead of joining to achieve concentration of force, he permitted a defeat in detail to tear the Confederacy in half and lose Pemberton's entire force. The basic problem with the Johnston approach is whilst the Confederacy can't afford to lose many men, it also can't afford to lose its political, industrial and commercial points. Both in terms of physical resources, and the morale effect on the population of each side. Endless retreat is not a winning approach, and Johnston never did deliver the kind of counterpunch that might justify his campaigns. The only other way it might have worked was if the Confederates melted into the deep South and fought a guerilla war until the North was exhausted. But firstly, this wasn't a part of Johnston's thinking. Secondly, if this was possible, and I'm not sure it was, it would have tremendous societal and human cost, even compared to the actual Civil War. Doing this was an option in 1865. The Confederates chose not to take it. No one wanted such carnage. The only way the South could be held onto, as a vaguely legitimate and intact country, was with some occasional vigour. See Bragg's push into Kentucky in 62 delaying the Union's Western steamroller a year, or Lee's efforts adding 3 years to Richmond's defence. Chancellorsville is an excellent exmaple. An overwhelming Union force was counterattacked at a favourable casualty exchange, and Union offence in the East had to wait another year. It was futile in the end. The idea was that if the Confederacy could be defended and kept intact, the North would lose resolve or the South would gain aid. Neither happened. But simply giving up key positions until there was nothing left didn't even give that sliver of hope for victory.
@@dubsy1026 Fair enough, but Johnston was often overruled by both Davis and Lee who preferred dashing frontal assaults. Just search for Atui Shen Films' video on which side had the best generals in the Civil War on RUclips.
@@jarrodkopf6813 I've watched it, I just don't find Shei particularly convincing on the military history side as opposed to social. I think the Johnston praise comes almost entirely from Grant complementing him, and I put that about on par in terms of bizarreness as when Lee said McClellan was his most formidable opponent. Grant never fought a major campaign or engagement against Johnston and his opinions seemed to form more based on personal opinions than military views (both in terms of who he liked and who he didn't).
I hadn’t thought of it but now that you mention it it’d be pretty cool. Especially because most people forget about the chaos that was the Articles of Confederation and how difficult it was to get the newly independent states to work together
theree's a book called Company Aitch, the diary of a confederate who walked from Bull Run to Appamatox Courthouse and fought in every major battle in Virginia. Worth reading.
Thanks for throwing that out there, i'll have to check that out.
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I would love to see a video about the Vicksburg Campaign, which for me is General Grant's strategic masterpiece and deservedly earned him the total respect of the North.
I know one thing for sure, and that was that Stalin was a southern compatriot from Georgia who hated Yankee imperialism and rich capitalist New York bankers and supported the right to forced labor.
Nope. You learned the real reason always for over a 100 years, then you got a new socialist revisionist version in the late 2000s. The Union had 8 slave states in 1864. The Union soldier fought to reunite the country and the confederate soldier fought for southern independence. "I consider it a privilege to die for my country." - Paul Jones Semmes On the third day of the battle before being shot and wounded, Confederate General Lewis Armistead led his brigade during Pickett's Charge, fixing his hat on the point of sword and reputedly urging his men to “remember what you are fighting for - your homes, your friends, your sweethearts!” “While we see the Course of the final abolition of human slavery is onward, & we give it the aid of our prayers & all justifiable means in our power we must leave the progress as well as the result in his hands who Sees the end” - Robert E Lee 1856 “We Are Fighting for Independence, Not Slavery”. - Jefferson Davis President of the Confederacy to Edward Kirk
@SouthernGentleman Lost Cause Revisionism need not apply 😅. Also each southern state that seceded stated they were doing so specifically to protect slavery and was also included multiple times in the Confederate constitution
Stalin came from Georgia and was a south boy 100%. He was red, just like the south votes red. The flags of Dixieland and Novorussia stands united against Yankee imperialism and for mother russia. Stalin was based and approved the right to own forced labor. Something that the libtards gets triggered about lol. Trump and Russia stands united.
As I always say, docubery put it best when he said "Southern states began secession over one, extremely specific, state's right." (EDIT: CALM DOWN IT WAS JUST A JOKE, PLEASE-)
@@red_hrlow2 Oh, please. I guess you give Northerners a free pass halo. In 1853 Illinois passed a law prohibiting any blacks from settling in their state. So did Ohio. There's your "lol".
On an off topic about different perspectives, can you guys do a video about South Vietnam’s perspective during the Vietnam war? (The government, ARVN, Local Army/counter-Vietcong forces, etc.)
Is it me or were poor southerners so unaware that slavery wasn’t doing them any good anyway? With all the slaves that means fewer opportunities for people to find work. And as the civil war dragged on they were being increasingly forced to fight and die for an institution they had no personal stake in. Especially since rich slave owners could avoid conscription.
A lot of the poor white farmers had a dream of being a big farmer with lots of land, the only problem with that dream is that it relied on slave labour, hence why they supported slavery.
The Slave holding States that stayed in the Union and there perspective could have used a shout out in this vid. Ex. Lincoln's proclamation didn't effect these states and slavery continued.
It was a war time measure to prevent them from going over to the Confederacy. And by late 1865 the 13th amendment outlawed slavery everywhere including in the loyal union states
@@soulknife20Tennessee, Louisiana, Missouri, Kentucky, and Delaware weren’t. Only New Jersey was. Funny how new Jersey was the last state to have slavery.
@@christopherevans2445 To be fair, the Proclamation was a good precursor to Emancipation but it was always going to take a amendment ratified by Congress to make emancipation a law of the land
The fact of the matter is that the North and South were developing into two distinct nations with different philosophical views. Despite what so many Confederate apologists argue for today slavery was at the heart of the debate because of economic needs. Without slavery there would have been no reason for a Confederate States to form.
@@KittRembo Not only was cotton no longer becoming the cash crop it once was, but competition internationally from Egypt and India due to British colonialism had made cotton dirt cheap the South had lost its biggest customer and now faced competition. The South put all their eggs into one basket they did not diversify if you look at newspaper articles prior to the Civil War especially agricultural prints and media. You would read about how each state was suffering from lack of diverse crops every famer wanted to grow cotton because it was the money maker. This cotton boom had disastrous effects on farms in every state. So even if southern farmers were to return to the diverse agriculture it had prior to the cotton boom it would not have mattered as international coemption from European colonies and freely independent South American countries would have beaten them. And they would not have been able to sell to the Northern states for various reasons. Suffice to say there was no way the South could have won.
@@TyKay-vd9foBut they were never planning to; this is something only accepted because of revisionism, the “lost cause” myth created by Southerners who seemed to maintain some semblance of power by condemning slavery and gracefully accepting defeat, when, if you had read their memoirs 5 years earlier, a very different picture would be painted. I recommend watching “Checkmate, Lincolnites”. It’s sure to answer any qualms you might have with accepting that the civil war was in very large part about slavery.
@KittRembo Eh, it would have been hard for sure. However, I ultimately favor a system that looks more like the US under the Articles of Confederation, which predated the US Constitution.
@@toad2117 Yeah but he never pushed. Waiting for McClellan to attack is like waiting for an American to pass on a road, they just don't want to for some reason.
@@bearsausage8599 To be fair, again, from what I've learned, McClellan was being fed bad intelligence. He routinely thought he was fighting a force bigger than he actually was due to the Pinkerton's method of estimating the size of the Southern Army.
Lol fun fact when the Confederate States finally drafted a constitution for their "country" It was a 1 to 1 copy of the U.S Constitution of that time, the only difference was the inclusion of slavery. Lol everything else was the same
jefferson davis on what the war was about 1864 “We are not fighting for slavery; we are fighting for independence.” This is true; and is a truth that has not sufficiently been dwelt upon. It would have been very much to be desired that this functionary had developed the idea in some message, or some other State paper… instead of leaving it to be promulgated through the doubtful report of an impudent blockade-runner.… The sentiment is true, and should be publicly uttered and kept conspicuously in view; because our enemies have diligently labored to make all mankind believe that the people of these States have set up a pretended State sovereignty, and based themselves upon that ostensibly, while their real object has been only to preserve to themselves the property in so many negroes, worth so many millions of dollars. The direct reverse is the truth. The question of slavery is only one of the minor issues; and the cause of the war, the whole cause, on our part, is the maintenance of the sovereign independence of these States.… The whole cause of our resistance was and is, the pretension and full determination of the Northern States to use their preponderance in the Federal representation, in order to govern the Southern States for their profit. . Slavery was the immediate occasion-carefully made so by them-it was not the cause. The tariff… would have much more accurately represented, though it did not cover, or exhaust, the real cause of the quarrel. Yet neither tariffs nor slavery, nor both together, could ever have been truly called the cause of the secession and the war. We refuse to accept for a cause any thing… than that truly announced, namely, the sovereign independence of our States. This, indeed, includes both those minor questions, as well as many others yet graver and higher. It includes full power to regulate our trade for our own profit, and also complete jurisdiction over our own social and domestic institutions; but it further involves all the nobler attributes of national, and even of individual life and character. A community which once submits to be schooled, dictated to, legislated for, by any other, soon grows poor in spirit;… its citizens, become a kind of half-men, [and] feel that they have hardly a right to walk in the sun.… The people of Virginia do not choose to accept that position for themselves and for their children. They choose rather to die. They own a noble country, which their fathers created, exalted, and transmitted to them.… That inheritance we intend to own while we live, and leave intact to those who are to come after us.… It is right to let foreign nations, and “those whom it may concern,” understand this theory of our independence. Let them understand that, though we are “not fighting for slavery,” we will not allow ourselves to be dictated to in regard to slavery or any other of our internal affairs, not because thatwould diminish our interest in any property, but because it touches our independence.
The north never fought a war to end slavery, the emancipation proclamation only affected union controlled confederate territory not the slave states that remained loyal to the union
No he doesn't, dude killed innocent people in Kansas who weren't even slave owners and dumped there bodies mutilated in a river, and killed more in his tried slave rebellion, he was a terrorist
@@13twoo except it wasn't really, Slavery had already been abolished among the majority of the Civilized world, and even the majority of America, they had no excuse
As a Louisianiaj, I’m both disappointed and glad we didn’t put up much of a fight. Disappointed because losing quickly is embarrassing. Glad because crazy generals like Sherman could have caused insane devastation.
We just received the most corrupt businessmen was our punishment. The type of behavior Spoons Butler did has been the norm among Louisiana businessmen since.
Regardless of your feelings you have to admit…many young men needlessly died at hands of extremely poor leadership (certain Union generals and their “wall of men” tactics come to mind) An entire generation gone, and spent with great waste. Please let us learn from history or we will be destined to repeat it; sending our children to die for our childish behavior.
Then again, the Civil War did also lead Americans into developing better war tactics, which most of Europe failed to learn from for the next few decades.
One of the greatest loss of life was Robert E. Lee demanding Pickett to conduct a forward center assault over open terrain and single handedly completely destroyed the confederate army in a single afternoon
Nope... I've got some Anti-personnel mines and a few anti-tank mines.... But since you specifically asked not to mine you... I'll leave the matter at once
@Nationalist345 considering it took 108 years for that to come around, I'm sure in a different timeline they would have something equally as catchy for Vandalia. And probably one not from a song referencing Virginia landscape while on a Maryland road.
This was such a well put together video and I’m also appreciate how you took the time to talk about reconstruction and rewriting of history. Appreciate all you do !
I had an uncle once upon a time on my daddy's side of the family, who might've took interest in this video, he was a big Southern Pride man, especially back in the days when it was okay to wear a Stars and Bars flag in the heart of the Tennessee 70s-80s, anyone who did give him grief about it, he would say, YOU DON'T SEE MY NAME ON ANY GODDAMN SURRENDER PAPERS.
I think it Awesome me you watch both as I do... Hope we make a difference as Sesame Street kids to fix and change our country to how we were after 911... we were Americans =(
The Simpsons' episode where Apu takes his citizenship exam: Proctor: Name the cause of the Civil War. Apu: There were several factors: The Missouri Compromise, the Kansas-Nebraska Act, growing support for abolition... Proctor: Just say slavery. Apu: Slavery it is sir. Pass. Apu: Hooray I am a citizen!
@@dapperbunch5029 Well, that’s a smart thing to post in a public forum… but don’t worry, you have free speech rights guaranteed by (wait for it)… the government of the United States of America 🇺🇸
Confederate enlisted volunteers in 1861 were 42% more likely to own slaves themselves or to live with family members who owned slaves than the general population. More than 50% of Confederate commissioned officers in 1861 owned slaves, and none of them lived with family members who were slaveholders. 25% of southern households enslaved people. In some states like Mississippi, 50% of households had at least one enslaved person. Enslaving a person in the American South was as common as it is today to own a second car.
@@warlordofbritannia yes, Not every confederate was racist. There’s an interesting story from North Texas in Gainesville about abolitionist sympathizers whom the confederacy hanged in the second largest mass hanging in US history. So, some weren’t racist but generally they were despised if they didn’t uphold slave affirming values. The confederacy population voted for politicians who sought to uphold slavery in 1860. So, while not every southerner was racist, the majority of the white males who voted were at the very least upholding politicians who affirmed slavery at that time.
Tbh you don’t need to watch this video to know the southern perspective just look at this comment section. Tho you should still watch cause their videos are good.
I think it varies from different social classes Rich- defend slavery we need cotton Poor- we must defend our land Slave- am I still picking cotton? Because everyone has different opinions
Agreed. The soldiers who fought for the North didn't even wanna fight. Even those who disagreed with slavery, or even hated it. Similarly, the Southern Soldiers wanted to protect their states, and they were willing to do that, even if it meant fighting fellow Americans. Both sides had flaws and to say one side was in the right would depend on your views. Personally, I am glad the Union won, and I am glad slavery ended, but it's like any other historical conflict. Take WW1 for an example. Neither side was really 'right', and yes it seemed as though their issues simply couldn't be resolved through diplomacy or peaceful means, like the South seceding. Resolution through war is bitter and unfortunate, that's for sure.
@@zekehatcher2196 You can look at southern areas like the Gullah Sea Islands, Key West, West Virginia, State of Scott in Tennessee, East Tennessee, areas all along the Appalachian Mountains, Free State of Jones in Mississippi, North Alabama and North Georgia, Western North Carolina, resisting secession or how New Orleans was “captured” without resistance, all prove that people didn’t have state loyalties. Many Southern soldiers remained loyal to the Union when their states seceded; 40% of Virginian officers in the United States military, for example, stayed with the Union. During the war, many Southern Unionists went North and joined the Union armies. Others joined when Union armies entered their hometowns in Tennessee, Virginia, Arkansas, Louisiana, and elsewhere. Around 100,000 Southern Unionists served in the Union Army during the Civil War. The 1st Alabama Calvary USV spearheaded Sherman’s March through Atlanta.
In WW2 even with Hitler 6 years in Power in 1939 Most Germans werent eager for a new war thats why Hitler did all this manovering and lying. Heck the british are mostly to blame because they have Up too many Times and let the Nazis Annex territories with No consequences even with poland they didnt do much
@@PhysicsGamer illegal occupation of Iran and Iceland by UK for one. Secondly, UK and France forcing Czechoslovakia into German submission. Thirdly, Germany taking eugenics idea out of US and death camps idea out of UK. Fourthly, IBM benefiting greatly by computing data in German death camps. Fifthly, Allied soldiers committing numerous warcrimes while the only side that executed their own warcriminals were Soviets. Sixthly, after ww2 Nazis getting employed by NATO to yet again stands against Soviets while Japanese vivisectors and warcrmiminals outright walking free for giving US the results of their inhumane research. While we are at it - you could add up that no doctor ever was jailed in USA for illegal human testing despite numerous ones taking place.
There is a colony of Confederate immigrants in Brazil they play Dixie and other Confederate songs. I think the foundation of this country with slavery as an economic institution along with land speculation made this conflict a point of inflection.
Man, I had no idea the situation was THAT dire for the Confederacy on the onset of the war. I can understand that white southerners' paranoia of a slave uprising would make them want to preserve slavery so as to preserve their way of life, but them doubling down on abuse towards former slaves through Jim Crow laws and promulgating the lie of Confederates fighting for State rights to future generations gives me no sympathy for the rich white slave owners. When you put money over morals, slavery over freedom, paranoia over logic, and sacrificing your fellow men for long-term profits and political power, it's hard for any southerner to see the Confederate leaders as "heroes".
Channel: American. Thumbnail: Lincoln and the Confederate Flag Thumbnail (again): Has CSA on it, aka Confederate States of America Title: Civil War from the **Confederate** Perspective Gee, I wonder which Civil War he was talking about! Maybe it was the Roman Civil War? Oh! Maybe it was the warring states period from China!
You know friend There are hundreds of civil wars in the History of the World. And the problem is, it doesnt matter if this is a American Website, because its still History if you go and say "Yeah it was the War on Russia" and just put as title "The War on Russia" You could be speaking of many things, and if you know the basics of comunication, a message needs to be clear. I dont go and say "Yeah is SA There is a lot of Rich History" and just that, because, perhaps you could go and say "Its San Antonio in Chile" but I could be Talking of South África.
As an outsider looking in, a rather interesting aspect of discussions on the civil war is that they seem to focus almost entirely on the military side of the conflict. You seldom see any focus on the home front of the North and almost none of the South.
You make it sound like all of Africa consisted of a single nation. They had tribal rivalries and enemies, too. Plus, it's not like other places don't have illegal human traffickers who are considered terrible criminals by the rest of society.
You wouldn't find it so funny if it was your home that was burnt, your property seized, and your women violated. Also, try telling that to the guy flying a Confederate flag in Ohio.
I am an AP U.S. History teacher at a college prep school. I got a degree in history from a school in Richmond, VA and did my capstone work at a Civil War museum. If I were grading this as an essay, I’d give it a C. I think it omits/ignores facts and context that are highly significant, and whose omission meaningfully distorts the final analysis. This is especially true if the intention is to discuss the war as it would have been understood from the Confederate perspective.
@@ricdimarco1499 it doesn't omit the confederate perspective at all... their perspective was quite literally "GRRR THE YANKEES DON'T WANT US TO EXPAND SLAVERY, GRRRR IT'S OUR WAY OF LIFE!!! SECESSION!!!"
@@derps8690 That is a childish take on the single most devastating Civil War in history American history. Most southerners didn't want that war just as much as many of the northerners who started the draft riots in vitriolic disdain for the senate bill that updated the draft. That War was idiotic and counter intuitive, apart from its destructiveness it didn't end slavery just altered it into Americas modern prison labor system where almost just as many blacks as there were slaves were trapped in for years.
A masterpiece as always, thankyou griffy and the entire team, yes every single one of you did an amazing job. AND one more thing please consider doing a video on the 1857 sepoy rebellion of India. It is a very fruitful topic as that war was one of the most brutal and truly unlike anything.
@@stoni27 The reason for the war was the argument over secession. Of course, the only reason that argument existed was because the South Wanted to keep slaves.
Not really. Most other civilized nations ended slavery earlier, and without needing to fight a giant war to do it. Kind of a bummer that the country that likes to think of itself as the world's beacon of freedom was almost last in ending slavery, and had to fight a war over it.
@@aaronfleming9426 we were also one of the younger countries… meaning we abolished slavery much quicker than most when compared to our founding date. W
As a European who is firmly interested in the American civil war, I find it tragic the fact that the civil is still raging across the US in my eyes anyway, it's baffles me the lack of respect descendents of both side have for each other. Slavery is evil we all know that, but alot of those boys in grey who died on the battlefield of Gettysburg weren't they were just very mislead in their beliefs and ideology and it is very dangerous to look upon history with the rose tinted glasses of modern standards and society. God bless those who died, God bless Abraham Lincoln the great emancipater and God bless the United States of America.
Anti-slavery was, by the time of the war, a centuries old ideology and had gained traction across all of the west. Saying that these southerners were “misled” is unfair. They could readily see the consequences of slavery. They could readily listen to abolitionist arguments. They chose to ignore anything opposing their convenient view that slavery was moral.
as what the other commenter said, the people who are still fighting the war in their mind are a minority now with the standing issues/debates that caused the american civil war such as civil rights, economic policies and practices, checks and balances of the federal government, are still very lively since the American declaration of independence It is much more the root of the matter that still lives on today and is still a very important discussion to have and be educated on to know your rights, know your government, and know how are you going to live your life day in and out
Nope! Sorry, but while I appreciate you wanting to be kind to our southern brethren, lets not beat around the bush. From the highest leaders to the lowest soldiers, slavery was the core of it from day one. The speech by alexander stephens, the secession documents, the various letters by normal rank and file soldiers and lower officer, they fought for slavery and knew it. I dont begrudge modern southerners for the sins of their ancestors. I begrudge modern southerners for perpetuating this garbage and not owning the past for what it is and moving on. I mean, I'm a yank, but you dont see me whining and being all denialist just because the founding fathers were slave owners. They were slave owners, period, and we accept that as the product of their time that they were. No good would come of denying such flaws our founding fathers had.
It's important to remember that at the Absolute PEAK of slavery, less than 6% of southerners owned a slave/slaves, and those were all rich plantation owners who never saw a minute of battle. For most of these young men, they were just doing what they were told to do & what they (in their young minds) thought was just defending their state, same as the Union boys
We’re divided for different reasons now, the domestic political atmosphere has become rather nuanced and complex. As a matter of fact, pro-southern nationalists (whether or not they have any legitimacy) are a non-issue compared to the plethora of other diverse civil issues we face today; many of which we cannot see eye-to-eye with, or even engage in productive and proper discourse. Also, I would like to make clear that all pro-Confederacy and Neo-(National Socialist German Worker’s Party) folk DO NOT represent ALL Conservatives. As long you can agree with that, I am happy.
Had Lee sent Reinforcements to Vicksburg instead of wasting his army on another failed Northern invasion, not only would the defeat at Gettysburg have been avoided, but Grant's siege of Vicksburg would have had to be abandoned. This would have been politically devastating to Lincoln. The Union's greatest advantages were Lee's myopic obsession with Virginia and Bragg's hilarious incompetence.
That's if the confeds could've even took back parts of the Mississippi and Vicksburg, which this diversion of men and material would've also weakened their position in Virginia, where the union had threatened their capital earlier on in the war. Lee was relying on the demoralized north being too inept to fight after his expected victory at gettysburg, many in the north didn't see freeing the slaves as worth their life, especially during the new york riots. Sure the now Union occupied river was withholding Texan beef and ag products from feeding the south, but I still think a victory at Gettysburg was the best opportunity to win for the south, especially at this point of the war. The Union navy was too active in the river for them to effectively secure Vicksburg prolly.
@@grandadmiralzaarin4962 Honestly the Confederates probably would have been better off with Joseph E. Johnson as the supreme commander of the army. His style may have been cautious but honestly his tactics were much more what the South needed as opposed to the aggressive gambles Lee was famous for
Nah, Vicksburg would still fall. What they should have done is what they did afterwards-reinforcing Bragg’s army to take the offensive in Tennessee. Also, sack Bragg. The only reason he lasted so long in command is because Jeff Davis liked him.
@@bearsausage8599 not at all. Firstly, the rail lines for transport existed and were still firmly in CSA possession. These lines remained open until late 1864 and secondary railways to Alabama still existed as late as early 1865 as troops were transferred from Mobile to aid in Hood's disastrous campaign. So the routes existed and when transfers did occur, they were decisive as at Chickamauga. Secondly, Lee didn't have to worry about weakening Virginia's defense due to the cautiousness of George Meade. Meade was in the middle of reorganization of the Army he'd just taken over and Lee's foolish invasion of the North was partly due to his perception that he'd have the initiative. The soldiers he lost at Gettysburg and the resources wasted on that campaign would have been a decisive force to end the siege of Vicksburg. Thirdly, a victory at Gettysburg wouldn't have secured Southern victory at all. It wouldn't have taken pressure off of Vicksburg, which still would have fallen even if Lee had won at Gettysburg and Lee had no capacity to threaten Washington DC since Meade had such a strong position at Gettysburg that even a victory would have wrecked Lee's army and not resulted in the destruction of the Army of the Potomac. Best case would be another Chancellorsville with a corps smashed and heavy casualties, but the Army of the Potomac withdrawing as a fighting force. Essentially, Lee's strategy focused purely on the preservation of Virginia at the cost of other theaters. He gambled twice on a grand invasion of the North and both times disastrously lost massive portions of his army he couldn't afford. Conversely, had Lee detached divisions to the Mississippi theater, Grant would have been forced to abandon the siege due to the threat to his own lines of supply and communication a large confederate force to his rear would pose. He'd also have faced the threat of a possible counterattack by the defenders while he was engaged with the relief army. Grant himself was concerned about such a possibility and wanted to conclude the siege as quickly as possible for such a reason.
@@hfar_in_the_sky far better as Johnston understood the importance of maintaining the Army as a fighting force rather than set locations. His strategic retreat in Georgia was conducted masterfully and had Davis not removed him and placed Hood in charge, Sherman and Johnston would have been roughly at parity at Atlanta with Sherman's lines badly overstretched and Johnston able to grow stronger over time due to the interior lines connecting him to the other areas he could pull reinforcements from. At minimum, Sherman would have been forced to abandon the campaign and withdraw, at best, his army might have been defeated in detail.
They changed only two things of note 1. Made the presidency a single six year term (tbh very good idea) 2. Explicitly mentioned slavery and made it impossible to abolish
Yes, and I am not a lost causer but because I do not also subscribe to the righteous cause myth, I get lumped in with them. The war was largely about slavery but that was the issue that was cited for breaking up the political power the south had especially the state of virginia. While abolitionists did exist the shot callers in the north who made the war happen did not care much about the plight of blacks. I do not think the war had to be fought and a peaceful solution could have been had - possibly . Slavery, as ugly as it is, is not a just reason to invade a region. If you believe that it is then you must also believe that British were right in their continued presence in Africa. That was an argument given for the continued colonialization of Africa by the British post (their) emancipation. And it was not a hollow argument - it was one that the British at least attempted to make good on. Kind of like war in the modern day: Just because Putin is wrong that does make NATO right.
to all the federal shills, have you evaluated what northern victory brought to blacks? I.e. exceptional misery and death of millions by starvation cause northern "gentlemen" didn't explain to "freed" people how they can feed themselves, only that they can't work for their former masters.
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Can you do the Battle of Hue from the South Vietnamese Perspective and why the ARVN did help the U.S. Marines? Thanks Quintorez.
@@52_Ronin why not?
From my understanding West Virginia wasn't a thing until the Civil War started.
Yup. They became a state in the middle of the Civil War
Plus there wasn't much mention of the Slave holding Union States in the vid. As they were allowed to keep there slaves even after the proclamation by Lincoln.
@@christopherevans2445True enough. The emancipation was a weapon against the south as much as a noble attempt to free slaves.
@@christopherevans2445Because they were already in the process of being freed and had been for a while. Maryland was really the only one that was allowed as a condition to join the Union. Also, Maryland is right next to DC.
@@soulknife20It became a Union slave state in the middle of the war.
The nation perspective series is my favorite from you guys
Id like to see a video on the Hamas conflict from the Lebanese, Israeli or Egyptian lens. His piece on the battle for Mosul was superb.
Would be equally if not moreso enlightening.
Although now thinking of the algorithm's suppression of such things as well as commentor temperament he'd know itd be a good gamble. Yet the infographics show (😷) gets away with any topic.
Mine is the evolution of armor.
I would like to see the Ottoman perspective of ww1
I love how you call each battle only by their southern name as it's from their perspective
Maybe its because it makes more sense to name a battle after its nearby settlement or city, rather than some random creek or landmark that was then momentarily important.
One nice thing about serving in the army for over 23 years, it allowed me to visit every Civil War battlefield 😂 from Missouri to Florida to Virginia to even New 😂Mexico😅
@@bwmsr The far western front was only localized skirmishes
@@SteveInLavaCorrect. The battle of Glorieta Pass, known as the Gettysburg of the West, saw less than 5,000 combined troops participating.
Fun fact, Picacho Peak was a a little skirmish in Arizona and Vermont even had a skirmish as well!
CSA was GREAT!
I love how you said Sharpsburg than Antietam since it’s from the south perspective
Manassas too
CSA was GREAT!
Oh boy, comments on this one should be… interesting…
Bro it’s kinda wild how many people want the south to rise again lmao.
I was thinking this too. It’s gonna be ugly.
Ngl the people accusing people of being neo confeds and lost causers over any disagreement seems to be much worse than the lost causers ever were.
I’m sure it’ll be as calm and collected as a herd of angry rhinos
@@ryanmcwilliams8784on the bright side it’s always funny trolling em, lost one war and they’ve been so anal about it that they made an organization to intimidate a large group of people just wanting to live normally
The aftermath of the Civil War is perhaps the most impactful event of this country history in more ways than one
160 years later, we’re still fighting to fulfill Reconstruction.
@@warlordofbritannia 160 years later, descendants of the slaves are still using slavery and segregation as an excuse.
@@warlordofbritannia Indeed. The Republican party abandoned the South as soon as it suited them... For the interest of their corporate donors?
@@warlordofbritanniaI doubt you even have family that fought in the Civil War.
@@peterjones5243
Not sure what the relevance would be
Rebel POV: you’re marching across open field and the federal artillery was absolutely not suppressed
Fedral artillery
Me when the enemy guns are RIFLED
Now let's talk about Fredericksburg
If you're talking about Gettysburg, then, well the Confederate artillery tried to silence federal guns, but the Confederates we're known for firing too high, and their artillery wasn't as developed and accurate as federal. Therefore, not many Union guns we're silenced, and more Confederate guns we're destroyed instead.
Fredericksburg! Fredericksburg!
Just woke up and got out of bed to see 11 seconds ago a armchair history video was posted today is gonna be a good day
Its 7 pm in my country
Union civil war veteran and US President William McKinley believed that Confederate soldiers should be considered a tribute to American valor, stating that "every soldier's grave made during our unfortunate Civil War is a tribute to American valor," signifying his view that despite being on opposing sides, all Civil War soldiers, including Confederates, demonstrated bravery and should be honored as Americans.
Until it lasts…
@@SouthernGentleman na
@@SouthernGentleman We’ll never forget that Confederates are traitors and white supremacists!
George McClellen: I didn’t lose, I mearly failed to win!
Abraham Lincoln: Don’t get your fans stirred up in some sort of Twitter Civil War!
Frank Heffley: What was General Grant doing on the thermostat?!
In your BAG
What was General Grant doing on the thermostat?
He was turning up the heat on them rebs
I can’t wait for someone to make a superhero style movie satire about the Civil War, to show how the south was basically Germany during WW2
McClellan is the single most under rated general in U.S history.
Union civil war veteran and US President William McKinley believed that Confederate soldiers should be considered a tribute to American valor, stating that "every soldier's grave made during our unfortunate Civil War is a tribute to American valor," signifying his view that despite being on opposing sides, all Civil War soldiers, including Confederates, demonstrated bravery and should be honored as Americans.
This Armchair Historian series is always insightful. I've never seen history presented in a more accurate yet imaginative way.
The Rich Southern folk used the poor southern folk to fight for their ideals, the way of war never changes.....
@@SweetTeaSupremacist I shall check them out cheers
Like the northern industrialist didn't draft and promised immigrants citizenship to fight. The South took a lot of prisoners who didn't speak English.
Part of your statement is is true about the rich, but the rich north had plenary to do with the war as well. Virginia and 7 other states did not join the secession until after the union raised 100, 000 men to INVADE, the original 4 states that succeeded .
@@deesnutz84 Theres always money in war. Some will want to take advantage of that. The South ( the rich plantation owners) wanted to protect slavery, if the 4 original states that seceded lost their slaves others have would too... Its all very interesting nonetheless.
That isn't true. Slave owners actually make up a third of the Confederate Army, roughly proportional to the percentage of slave-owning families in the population.
Comment section should be fun on this one.
Dont think there are many slavery supporters in the modern world
Is see a lot of people say lost causer! How is saying quotes lost cause revisionism?????? Like bruh! Seriously socialist revisionists are brainwashed to see a fact that is pro confederate and they go lost cause!!!!
Like last confederate was a Native American. Lost causer!
Latinos, Jews, and even blacks like Holt Collier fought for the confederacy. Lost causer!
Most confederates weren’t owners. Lost causer!
Confederates were us veterans of 4 wars and even northerners respected them. Lost causer!
The Union had 8 slave states during the war. Lost causer!
7 confederate states didn’t mention slavery in their articles and the 6 that did mentioned a whole lot more that would appeal to the non owner majority like “patriotism” “American revolution” “duty” “prosperity” “independence” “tranquility”, and so on.
States rights definition is limited government. Lost causer!
It feels like I’m scrolling through 4chan on this one 💀
@@KommieKazeFr💀
@@KommieKaze 4chaners vs Redditors
Remember…when someone says the war was about states rights… just ask them … states rights to do what…
I support decentralization and less federal control.
@@TyKay-vd9fo and slavery, apparently
@jackadams3878 Yes. You can conclude that from my previous post. It's amazing how you just assume something so incredibly stupid without any basis.
@jackadams3878 How does advocating for less federal government in modern times indicate that?
To govern themselves as the Constitution outlined. As late as the failed Hampton Roads peace conference of February 1865, Lincoln was willing to compromise on slavery but not on union; the Confederates were not willing to compromise on union.
Just what I needed: an Armchair Historian video for this boring saturday! Cheers Grif!
One thing I find sad about this war was many had to either fight or hide. Many in Texas, especially those who mustered in 1862 had to fight because of the confederate conscription law being passed and federal armies marching around burning towns.
Cool to see you here!
Nothing stopped any of them from volunteering for the Union Army.
@@MinesAGuinness Why would they join the union army when their homes are threatened by union armies?
@@Hanestri thanks bro, ACH is a friend of mine
@WarhawkYT it's funny you say that because there were lots of southern unionists throughout the Confederacy. In Texas for example most of the Mexican American population and most of the German immigrants sided with the union 😅
Fun Fact: Although the Battle of Chancellorsville resulted in a Confederate victory, Lee lost more men in that battle than Joseph Hooker. In fact, the South lost the American Civil War because they lost many of their irreplaceable men in frontal assaults against Union positions.
Lee lost considerably fewer men at Chancellorsville , 12700 vs 17200 Union.
@@dubsy1026 Still, those men could not be easily replaced as opposed to the Union's own forces In fact, the South's best general was Joseph E. Johnston as he was the only one who even thought about strategically picking battles for the Confederacy to battle against the Union.
@@jarrodkopf6813 True enough they couldn't be replaced in the long run.
Don't agree with the positive assessment of Johnston. On the Peninsula, he was pushed rapidly back to Richmond. His attempt to launch a counterattack went nowhere at Seven Pines, and without his wounding and replacement by Lee Richmond would have fallen in 1862. Similarly at Atlanta, he basically backed up down a hundred miles of defensible terrain and doomed the city (Hood who took over had an equally wrong headed-approach in the opposite direction, but was playing a losing hand regardless).
At Vicksburg in 63 he sat by passively whilst Pemberton was cut-off. Instead of joining to achieve concentration of force, he permitted a defeat in detail to tear the Confederacy in half and lose Pemberton's entire force.
The basic problem with the Johnston approach is whilst the Confederacy can't afford to lose many men, it also can't afford to lose its political, industrial and commercial points. Both in terms of physical resources, and the morale effect on the population of each side. Endless retreat is not a winning approach, and Johnston never did deliver the kind of counterpunch that might justify his campaigns.
The only other way it might have worked was if the Confederates melted into the deep South and fought a guerilla war until the North was exhausted. But firstly, this wasn't a part of Johnston's thinking. Secondly, if this was possible, and I'm not sure it was, it would have tremendous societal and human cost, even compared to the actual Civil War. Doing this was an option in 1865. The Confederates chose not to take it. No one wanted such carnage.
The only way the South could be held onto, as a vaguely legitimate and intact country, was with some occasional vigour. See Bragg's push into Kentucky in 62 delaying the Union's Western steamroller a year, or Lee's efforts adding 3 years to Richmond's defence. Chancellorsville is an excellent exmaple. An overwhelming Union force was counterattacked at a favourable casualty exchange, and Union offence in the East had to wait another year.
It was futile in the end. The idea was that if the Confederacy could be defended and kept intact, the North would lose resolve or the South would gain aid. Neither happened. But simply giving up key positions until there was nothing left didn't even give that sliver of hope for victory.
@@dubsy1026 Fair enough, but Johnston was often overruled by both Davis and Lee who preferred dashing frontal assaults. Just search for Atui Shen Films' video on which side had the best generals in the Civil War on RUclips.
@@jarrodkopf6813 I've watched it, I just don't find Shei particularly convincing on the military history side as opposed to social.
I think the Johnston praise comes almost entirely from Grant complementing him, and I put that about on par in terms of bizarreness as when Lee said McClellan was his most formidable opponent.
Grant never fought a major campaign or engagement against Johnston and his opinions seemed to form more based on personal opinions than military views (both in terms of who he liked and who he didn't).
anyone else think that a video about America right after its independence would be fire
Didn't know I needed that in my life. It's gotta happen!
Yes please
Honestly if that were a 40 minute video I’d watch every second of it
The articles of confederation era is an often forgotten period of history, I would love a video about that.
I hadn’t thought of it but now that you mention it it’d be pretty cool. Especially because most people forget about the chaos that was the Articles of Confederation and how difficult it was to get the newly independent states to work together
theree's a book called Company Aitch, the diary of a confederate who walked from Bull Run to Appamatox Courthouse and fought in every major battle in Virginia. Worth reading.
Thanks for throwing that out there, i'll have to check that out.
I would love to see a video about the Vicksburg Campaign, which for me is General Grant's strategic masterpiece and deservedly earned him the total respect of the North.
"from the Confederate Perspective" Is what we learned in School didn't learn the real reason until the late 2000's.
I know one thing for sure, and that was that Stalin was a southern compatriot from Georgia who hated Yankee imperialism and rich capitalist New York bankers and supported the right to forced labor.
@@nattygsbord Sign a wavier and I'm willing to be the master Promise no rape or murder and 1 meal a day.
Nope. You learned the real reason always for over a 100 years, then you got a new socialist revisionist version in the late 2000s. The Union had 8 slave states in 1864. The Union soldier fought to reunite the country and the confederate soldier fought for southern independence.
"I consider it a privilege to die for my country." - Paul Jones Semmes
On the third day of the battle before being shot and wounded, Confederate General Lewis Armistead led his brigade during Pickett's Charge, fixing his hat on the point of sword and reputedly urging his men to “remember what you are fighting for - your homes, your friends, your sweethearts!”
“While we see the Course of the final abolition of human slavery is onward, & we give it the aid of our prayers & all justifiable means in our power we must leave the progress as well as the result in his hands who Sees the end” - Robert E Lee 1856
“We Are Fighting for Independence, Not Slavery”. - Jefferson Davis President of the Confederacy to Edward Kirk
@SouthernGentleman Lost Cause Revisionism need not apply 😅. Also each southern state that seceded stated they were doing so specifically to protect slavery and was also included multiple times in the Confederate constitution
@@SouthernGentleman fighting for the independence to do what?
Southerners today: "I'M VOTIN REPUBLICAN, YAY FROM TRUMP!"
Southerners in the 1800s: "You WHAT?"
The South never had slave ships and only the Yankee state of New York ever hosted Nazi Zeppelins and Bund rallies.
Stalin came from Georgia and was a south boy 100%. He was red, just like the south votes red. The flags of Dixieland and Novorussia stands united against Yankee imperialism and for mother russia. Stalin was based and approved the right to own forced labor. Something that the libtards gets triggered about lol. Trump and Russia stands united.
@@nattygsbord rage bait is supposed to be believable ☠️
You know people in the south in the 1800s were democrats right??
As I always say, docubery put it best when he said
"Southern states began secession over one, extremely specific, state's right."
(EDIT: CALM DOWN IT WAS JUST A JOKE, PLEASE-)
Escalation is a convenient thing to forget about, ain't it?
@@dextercochran4916 you mean making any effort to prevent the spread of slavery? What's it like defending it in the year 2024?
@@dextercochran4916
Yeah the CSA escalated their fear of slavery's abolition into a war
@@juliocesarmonterocruz2089 lol!
State's rights to do what?
Insane, the length people went through to keep others subservient.
Yes. On both sides
@@richiephillips1541lol, what?
@@richiephillips1541 okay slaver and traitor
@@red_hrlow2 Oh, please. I guess you give Northerners a free pass halo. In 1853 Illinois passed a law prohibiting any blacks from settling in their state. So did Ohio. There's your "lol".
I am not even American but American history is quite interesting
Wrong
@@The_king567 🧢
@@That_TTT I’m right
@@The_king567You can't be right. What people find interesting is subjective, not objective. There's nothing to be right about
@@bg1052 nope I’m always right
On an off topic about different perspectives, can you guys do a video about South Vietnam’s perspective during the Vietnam war? (The government, ARVN, Local Army/counter-Vietcong forces, etc.)
They had no perspective because no one actually supported them😂
@@terrorgaming459 You do realize that the US supported them, right?
I've liked studying the Civil War since I was in the seventh or eighth grade. Thanks for this great summary of the war.
Is it me or were poor southerners so unaware that slavery wasn’t doing them any good anyway? With all the slaves that means fewer opportunities for people to find work. And as the civil war dragged on they were being increasingly forced to fight and die for an institution they had no personal stake in. Especially since rich slave owners could avoid conscription.
And they were convinced by those in charge that freeing the slaves would lead to a race war.
They were mostly convinced that freeing slaves would lead to a race war.
esh, as long as they felt inherently superior over someone it was cool and good
A lot of the poor white farmers had a dream of being a big farmer with lots of land, the only problem with that dream is that it relied on slave labour, hence why they supported slavery.
@@filipinordabestYup. Pretty much
The Slave holding States that stayed in the Union and there perspective could have used a shout out in this vid. Ex. Lincoln's proclamation didn't effect these states and slavery continued.
Because those states, sans Mayrland, had been in the process of freeing slaves for a while.
It was a war time measure to prevent them from going over to the Confederacy. And by late 1865 the 13th amendment outlawed slavery everywhere including in the loyal union states
@@soulknife20Tennessee, Louisiana, Missouri, Kentucky, and Delaware weren’t.
Only New Jersey was. Funny how new Jersey was the last state to have slavery.
@@SouthernGentleman Missouri and Maryland ratified the 13th amendment
@@christopherevans2445 To be fair, the Proclamation was a good precursor to Emancipation but it was always going to take a amendment ratified by Congress to make emancipation a law of the land
The fact of the matter is that the North and South were developing into two distinct nations with different philosophical views. Despite what so many Confederate apologists argue for today slavery was at the heart of the debate because of economic needs. Without slavery there would have been no reason for a Confederate States to form.
I would have to disagree. Ideally, the South should have abolished slavery and still succeeded.
@@TyKay-vd9fohow would it have survived? Its main export was cotton and textiles. Heavy industry was mainly in the North lmao get real
@@KittRembo Not only was cotton no longer becoming the cash crop it once was, but competition internationally from Egypt and India due to British colonialism had made cotton dirt cheap the South had lost its biggest customer and now faced competition. The South put all their eggs into one basket they did not diversify if you look at newspaper articles prior to the Civil War especially agricultural prints and media. You would read about how each state was suffering from lack of diverse crops every famer wanted to grow cotton because it was the money maker. This cotton boom had disastrous effects on farms in every state. So even if southern farmers were to return to the diverse agriculture it had prior to the cotton boom it would not have mattered as international coemption from European colonies and freely independent South American countries would have beaten them. And they would not have been able to sell to the Northern states for various reasons. Suffice to say there was no way the South could have won.
@@TyKay-vd9foBut they were never planning to; this is something only accepted because of revisionism, the “lost cause” myth created by Southerners who seemed to maintain some semblance of power by condemning slavery and gracefully accepting defeat, when, if you had read their memoirs 5 years earlier, a very different picture would be painted. I recommend watching “Checkmate, Lincolnites”. It’s sure to answer any qualms you might have with accepting that the civil war was in very large part about slavery.
@KittRembo Eh, it would have been hard for sure. However, I ultimately favor a system that looks more like the US under the Articles of Confederation, which predated the US Constitution.
14:18 - McClellan really was the best general the South had.
McClellan was a competent general, especially at the organizational level. People exaggerate his incompetence.
@@toad2117 Yeah but he never pushed. Waiting for McClellan to attack is like waiting for an American to pass on a road, they just don't want to for some reason.
@@jimtalbott9535 Pfffft! Okay, that was a good one! 😂
And Braxton Bragg was the best general the Union had
@@bearsausage8599 To be fair, again, from what I've learned, McClellan was being fed bad intelligence. He routinely thought he was fighting a force bigger than he actually was due to the Pinkerton's method of estimating the size of the Southern Army.
Stonewall is still my favorite person of the war. He had such a sad story. Jeff Shaara's chapter on his death made me CRYYYYY
I love these perspective vids, keep um up bro
Whatever you think about why the war started, the war ended as a fight for slavery, and that is not an institution anyone should defend.
@howiehall4622 Well said
Lol fun fact when the Confederate States finally drafted a constitution for their "country" It was a 1 to 1 copy of the U.S Constitution of that time, the only difference was the inclusion of slavery. Lol everything else was the same
jefferson davis on what the war was about 1864
“We are not fighting for slavery; we are fighting for independence.” This is true; and is a truth that has not sufficiently been dwelt upon. It would have been very much to be desired that this functionary had developed the idea in some message, or some other State paper… instead of leaving it to be promulgated through the doubtful report of an impudent blockade-runner.… The sentiment is true, and should be publicly uttered and kept conspicuously in view; because our enemies have diligently labored to make all mankind believe that the people of these States have set up a pretended State sovereignty, and based themselves upon that ostensibly, while their real object has been only to preserve to themselves the property in so many negroes, worth so many millions of dollars. The direct reverse is the truth. The question of slavery is only one of the minor issues; and the cause of the war, the whole cause, on our part, is the maintenance of the sovereign independence of these States.…
The whole cause of our resistance was and is, the pretension and full determination of the Northern States to use their preponderance in the Federal representation, in order to govern the Southern States for their profit. . Slavery was the immediate occasion-carefully made so by them-it was not the cause. The tariff… would have much more accurately represented, though it did not cover, or exhaust, the real cause of the quarrel. Yet neither tariffs nor slavery, nor both together, could ever have been truly called the cause of the secession and the war. We refuse to accept for a cause any thing… than that truly announced, namely, the sovereign independence of our States. This, indeed, includes both those minor questions, as well as many others yet graver and higher. It includes full power to regulate our trade for our own profit, and also complete jurisdiction over our own social and domestic institutions; but it further involves all the nobler attributes of national, and even of individual life and character. A community which once submits to be schooled, dictated to, legislated for, by any other, soon grows poor in spirit;… its citizens, become a kind of half-men, [and] feel that they have hardly a right to walk in the sun.…
The people of Virginia do not choose to accept that position for themselves and for their children. They choose rather to die. They own a noble country, which their fathers created, exalted, and transmitted to them.… That inheritance we intend to own while we live, and leave intact to those who are to come after us.…
It is right to let foreign nations, and “those whom it may concern,” understand this theory of our independence. Let them understand that, though we are “not fighting for slavery,” we will not allow ourselves to be dictated to in regard to slavery or any other of our internal affairs, not because thatwould diminish our interest in any property, but because it touches our independence.
The north never fought a war to end slavery, the emancipation proclamation only affected union controlled confederate territory not the slave states that remained loyal to the union
@@pompom-yr3sx How does that change the fact the slave states left because of the institute of slavery being threatened .
John Brown deserves his own episode, dude went above and beyond to pass the vibe check
No he didn't, he murdered innocent people in kansas and other places, guy was a terrorist
No he doesn't, dude killed innocent people in Kansas who weren't even slave owners and dumped there bodies mutilated in a river, and killed more in his tried slave rebellion, he was a terrorist
It’s my right to oppress the rights of others!!!!!!!
Different times. They didn't even consider the slaves as people. Just as hitler didn't see the jews as people
@@13twoo not an excuse
@@13twoo except it wasn't really, Slavery had already been abolished among the majority of the Civilized world, and even the majority of America, they had no excuse
As a Louisianiaj, I’m both disappointed and glad we didn’t put up much of a fight. Disappointed because losing quickly is embarrassing. Glad because crazy generals like Sherman could have caused insane devastation.
We just received the most corrupt businessmen was our punishment. The type of behavior Spoons Butler did has been the norm among Louisiana businessmen since.
Been waiting for this!!
Regardless of your feelings you have to admit…many young men needlessly died at hands of extremely poor leadership (certain Union generals and their “wall of men” tactics come to mind) An entire generation gone, and spent with great waste. Please let us learn from history or we will be destined to repeat it; sending our children to die for our childish behavior.
Then again, the Civil War did also lead Americans into developing better war tactics, which most of Europe failed to learn from for the next few decades.
@@CompuclesMany of which we promptly forgot and had to re-learn at San Juan Hill.
One of the greatest loss of life was Robert E. Lee demanding Pickett to conduct a forward center assault over open terrain and single handedly completely destroyed the confederate army in a single afternoon
13:18 We found his little secret about his chair.
The confederate perspective in 1865.
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Don’t mine me just reading the comments
Anybody got popcorn? 🍿
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Nope... I've got some Anti-personnel mines and a few anti-tank mines.... But since you specifically asked not to mine you... I'll leave the matter at once
@@DarthVader-ig6ci I was thinking of correcting this comment but this is to funny that I’m not going to 🤣
Imagine getting the ONCE IN A LIFETIME opportunity to name a new state and settling on West Virginia....
They missed the opportunity, the runner up name was Vandalia, named after the Vandals who sacked Rome.
They should name it after Jerry West or Don Knotts RFN! (Both are natives)
but tbf “vandalia, mountain mama” doesn’t sound right
@Nationalist345 considering it took 108 years for that to come around, I'm sure in a different timeline they would have something equally as catchy for Vandalia.
And probably one not from a song referencing Virginia landscape while on a Maryland road.
This was such a well put together video and I’m also appreciate how you took the time to talk about reconstruction and rewriting of history. Appreciate all you do !
This channel always makes really beautiful art.
Armchair historian Teasing us as we wait for the civil war full history video
You know its a good day when armchair historian upldoads!
Now we are talking
I had an uncle once upon a time on my daddy's side of the family, who might've took interest in this video, he was a big Southern Pride man, especially back in the days when it was okay to wear a Stars and Bars flag in the heart of the Tennessee 70s-80s, anyone who did give him grief about it, he would say, YOU DON'T SEE MY NAME ON ANY GODDAMN SURRENDER PAPERS.
It's still okay to wear stars and bars.
@sunlight-sky151 nah, its not.
Unless you're a karnt.
Chairman, try making a episode on Julius Caesar next.
Moral of the Story: don't start a war, when you know you can't win it!
I mean, no one really do. Most beings that start wars, do so believing they can win it.
The south didn’t start it technically speaking. The north were clearly the aggressors for a moral cause
more like US federal government doing false-flag attack to justify their aggression being integral part of modern US.
Tell that to the US federal
Government lol 😂
If only there were official documents preserved in multiple locations giving us the southern perspective. If only.
Atun shei films would like to know your location!
@@TheGuy-cf2rg the cornerstone of johnny reb
It’s almost as if those were burned on purpose lol
@@Arkansas112 No, they're very well recorded.
@@PhysicsGamer why’d they burn so many of those CSA records and documents then?
Would like to see a Collab of Armchair Historian with Oversimplified.
I think it Awesome me you watch both as I do... Hope we make a difference as Sesame Street kids to fix and change our country to how we were after 911... we were Americans =(
Remember throughout the video, slavery bad (no matter how cool the art is)
Yes slavery was bad. You gotta problem with that? Hell, slavery is bad today since incarcerated people are exempt from the 13th amendment.
@@FRENKI8888 slavery bad, no matter what, as I said
@@FRENKI8888Slavery bad, but it's been nerves since, they don't tend to hobble people or brand their faces anymore.
Yes, how very original of you.
I very much enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
The Simpsons' episode where Apu takes his citizenship exam:
Proctor: Name the cause of the Civil War.
Apu: There were several factors: The Missouri Compromise, the Kansas-Nebraska Act, growing support for abolition...
Proctor: Just say slavery.
Apu: Slavery it is sir.
Pass.
Apu: Hooray I am a citizen!
Apu: Which way to the Welfare Office?
Proctor: What?!
Apu: I'm kidding! I work. I work.
Shows Mr. Nahasapeemapetilon isn't as great as he thinks!
🎶And every Dixie boy must understand that he must mind his Uncle Sam!🎶
@@vmolin2162 Keep singing it as soon that abhorrent flag will fall.
@@dapperbunch5029You mean, the US flag? 🤔
@@gregbors8364 No I meant the Turkish one. Of course I meant the US flag.
🎶 Southern men the thunders mutter, Northern flags in south winds flutter. To arms, to arms, to arms in Dixie!🎶
@@dapperbunch5029 Well, that’s a smart thing to post in a public forum… but don’t worry, you have free speech rights guaranteed by (wait for it)… the government of the United States of America 🇺🇸
Thank you for this video. This "perspective" series is one of my favorites you guys do.
God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
Confederate enlisted volunteers in 1861 were 42% more likely to own slaves themselves or to live with family members who owned slaves than the general population.
More than 50% of Confederate commissioned officers in 1861 owned slaves, and none of them lived with family members who were slaveholders.
25% of southern households enslaved people. In some states like Mississippi, 50% of households had at least one enslaved person. Enslaving a person in the American South was as common as it is today to own a second car.
100 percent of them also benefited from the social hierarchy of slavery
A second car? In this economy?
@@warlordofbritannia yes, Not every confederate was racist. There’s an interesting story from North Texas in Gainesville about abolitionist sympathizers whom the confederacy hanged in the second largest mass hanging in US history. So, some weren’t racist but generally they were despised if they didn’t uphold slave affirming values. The confederacy population voted for politicians who sought to uphold slavery in 1860. So, while not every southerner was racist, the majority of the white males who voted were at the very least upholding politicians who affirmed slavery at that time.
@@zenever0
If you fight for a racist social order…then you’re a racist.
@@zenever0
Yes, every confederate was a racist. They were fighting for the institution of slavery, whether they admitted that or not.
Wait, you mean to tell me wars are started by rich politicians and the media?
The video implies that Lee's victory at Chancellorsville was over Sumner not Hooker.
Tbh you don’t need to watch this video to know the southern perspective just look at this comment section. Tho you should still watch cause their videos are good.
I think it varies from different social classes
Rich- defend slavery we need cotton
Poor- we must defend our land
Slave- am I still picking cotton?
Because everyone has different opinions
Agreed. The soldiers who fought for the North didn't even wanna fight. Even those who disagreed with slavery, or even hated it. Similarly, the Southern Soldiers wanted to protect their states, and they were willing to do that, even if it meant fighting fellow Americans. Both sides had flaws and to say one side was in the right would depend on your views.
Personally, I am glad the Union won, and I am glad slavery ended, but it's like any other historical conflict. Take WW1 for an example. Neither side was really 'right', and yes it seemed as though their issues simply couldn't be resolved through diplomacy or peaceful means, like the South seceding. Resolution through war is bitter and unfortunate, that's for sure.
@@zekehatcher2196 Interesting that you picked WW1 for the comparison... now try WW2.
@@zekehatcher2196 You can look at southern areas like the Gullah Sea Islands, Key West, West Virginia, State of Scott in Tennessee, East Tennessee, areas all along the Appalachian Mountains, Free State of Jones in Mississippi, North Alabama and North Georgia, Western North Carolina, resisting secession or how New Orleans was “captured” without resistance, all prove that people didn’t have state loyalties.
Many Southern soldiers remained loyal to the Union when their states seceded; 40% of Virginian officers in the United States military, for example, stayed with the Union. During the war, many Southern Unionists went North and joined the Union armies. Others joined when Union armies entered their hometowns in Tennessee, Virginia, Arkansas, Louisiana, and elsewhere. Around 100,000 Southern Unionists served in the Union Army during the Civil War. The 1st Alabama Calvary USV spearheaded Sherman’s March through Atlanta.
In WW2 even with Hitler 6 years in Power in 1939 Most Germans werent eager for a new war thats why Hitler did all this manovering and lying. Heck the british are mostly to blame because they have Up too many Times and let the Nazis Annex territories with No consequences even with poland they didnt do much
@@PhysicsGamer illegal occupation of Iran and Iceland by UK for one. Secondly, UK and France forcing Czechoslovakia into German submission. Thirdly, Germany taking eugenics idea out of US and death camps idea out of UK. Fourthly, IBM benefiting greatly by computing data in German death camps. Fifthly, Allied soldiers committing numerous warcrimes while the only side that executed their own warcriminals were Soviets. Sixthly, after ww2 Nazis getting employed by NATO to yet again stands against Soviets while Japanese vivisectors and warcrmiminals outright walking free for giving US the results of their inhumane research. While we are at it - you could add up that no doctor ever was jailed in USA for illegal human testing despite numerous ones taking place.
There is a colony of Confederate immigrants in Brazil they play Dixie and other Confederate songs. I think the foundation of this country with slavery as an economic institution along with land speculation made this conflict a point of inflection.
Hmmm, seems as though these certain states were focused on one uber specific right they wanted.
yes, representation for taxation right.
Speaking of slavery, Mr. Historian how about a video on the 54th Massachusetts Reg. interesting video as always.
The CSA - we're gonna start a war by attacking fort sumpter!
Also the CSA - muh war of northern aggression!
Man, I had no idea the situation was THAT dire for the Confederacy on the onset of the war.
I can understand that white southerners' paranoia of a slave uprising would make them want to preserve slavery so as to preserve their way of life, but them doubling down on abuse towards former slaves through Jim Crow laws and promulgating the lie of Confederates fighting for State rights to future generations gives me no sympathy for the rich white slave owners.
When you put money over morals, slavery over freedom, paranoia over logic, and sacrificing your fellow men for long-term profits and political power, it's hard for any southerner to see the Confederate leaders as "heroes".
You can’t just say civil war without the word American, for an international audience
well they're on an American website watching an American channel with a thumbnail of the American civil war so they should be able to figure it out.
Channel: American.
Thumbnail: Lincoln and the Confederate Flag
Thumbnail (again): Has CSA on it, aka Confederate States of America
Title: Civil War from the **Confederate** Perspective
Gee, I wonder which Civil War he was talking about! Maybe it was the Roman Civil War? Oh! Maybe it was the warring states period from China!
I don't think they have internet in other countries.
You know friend
There are hundreds of civil wars in the History of the World. And the problem is, it doesnt matter if this is a American Website, because its still History if you go and say "Yeah it was the War on Russia" and just put as title "The War on Russia" You could be speaking of many things, and if you know the basics of comunication, a message needs to be clear.
I dont go and say "Yeah is SA There is a lot of Rich History" and just that, because, perhaps you could go and say "Its San Antonio in Chile" but I could be Talking of South África.
@@DonWikiit also says “from the confederate perspective”
As an outsider looking in, a rather interesting aspect of discussions on the civil war is that they seem to focus almost entirely on the military side of the conflict. You seldom see any focus on the home front of the North and almost none of the South.
Did people forget that some tribes sold their own people
Blame the Portuguese lol, so what? The present country that did that is coping rn in economic collapse anyways (DR CONGO)
Ah yes, whataboutism, a neo-Confederate's favorite argument tactic.
By the time the Civil War happened, American slaves had been born in North America alone for a pretty long time.
You make it sound like all of Africa consisted of a single nation. They had tribal rivalries and enemies, too. Plus, it's not like other places don't have illegal human traffickers who are considered terrible criminals by the rest of society.
@@Compucles sorry did not mean to make it sound like that
Anyone who claims that Ohio knows nothing about good BBQ need only look to Sherman’s march to the Sea to see an example of a good BBQ.
You wouldn't find it so funny if it was your home that was burnt, your property seized, and your women violated.
Also, try telling that to the guy flying a Confederate flag in Ohio.
How are you going to talk about Ohio BBQ when you got what's going down in Springfield?🤣🤣🤣
@@codybailey855not a thing, per local PD, press, and civil officials
@@ad_astra5
Actually! He was talking about that Krusty Burger in Springfield.
@@ad_astra5you're right those people never lie 😂
This was very informative. Thanks for the detailed explanation.
the title is basically a demonitisation any % speed run
I am an AP U.S. History teacher at a college prep school. I got a degree in history from a school in Richmond, VA and did my capstone work at a Civil War museum. If I were grading this as an essay, I’d give it a C. I think it omits/ignores facts and context that are highly significant, and whose omission meaningfully distorts the final analysis. This is especially true if the intention is to discuss the war as it would have been understood from the Confederate perspective.
We’ll never forget that Confederates are traitors and white supremacists 🇺🇸
Clearly missed the title of the video. It’s from a confederate *perspective* meaning that it purposely omits multiple facts and nuances
@@kingofparrots_ the problem is specifically that what it omits IS the Confederate perspective.
@@ricdimarco1499 it doesn't omit the confederate perspective at all... their perspective was quite literally "GRRR THE YANKEES DON'T WANT US TO EXPAND SLAVERY, GRRRR IT'S OUR WAY OF LIFE!!! SECESSION!!!"
@@derps8690 That is a childish take on the single most devastating Civil War in history American history. Most southerners didn't want that war just as much as many of the northerners who started the draft riots in vitriolic disdain for the senate bill that updated the draft. That War was idiotic and counter intuitive, apart from its destructiveness it didn't end slavery just altered it into Americas modern prison labor system where almost just as many blacks as there were slaves were trapped in for years.
that finale animated shot is so fire and just strait beautiful
This was a war started by rich people.The south did not have a chance,a foolish decision.
Ah a new day and a new armchair history video, it's gonna be a good day boys girls and whoever in between
Conservatives : 😬The south wasn't fighting to preserve slavery.
Someone : So why did they impose racially discriminatory laws after the war??
The battle of chickamauga was actually a confederate victory
Nice history
A masterpiece as always, thankyou griffy and the entire team, yes every single one of you did an amazing job. AND one more thing please consider doing a video on the 1857 sepoy rebellion of India. It is a very fruitful topic as that war was one of the most brutal and truly unlike anything.
Interesting vid...
*loads .22 Derringer with malicious intent*
@@MrRAGE-md5rj *ducks*
Wrestles with John Wilkes Booth
*inhales*
STATES RIGHTS TO WHAT?!
*inhales*
TO SECEDE!
Agricultural Implements
@@MrShadowThief SECEDE FROM ABOLITION OF SLAVERY
To secede. Obviously.
And why secede? Well, they had to protect their right to own people. Obviously.
@@stoni27 The reason for the war was the argument over secession. Of course, the only reason that argument existed was because the South Wanted to keep slaves.
Your content is remarkable. Thank you.
Ending slavery was one of the biggest American W’s.
Not really. Most other civilized nations ended slavery earlier, and without needing to fight a giant war to do it. Kind of a bummer that the country that likes to think of itself as the world's beacon of freedom was almost last in ending slavery, and had to fight a war over it.
@@aaronfleming9426 we were also one of the younger countries… meaning we abolished slavery much quicker than most when compared to our founding date. W
@@eldenfindley186 We were also founded on the idea that "All men are created equal", so we should have been ahead of the curve, not behind it.
@@aaronfleming9426 but y’all didn’t consider black people “men”…
@@eldenfindley186 Yeah, that was pretty stupid. People often get stupid when they're looking for excuses for obviously wicked behavior.
I got all the perspective I needed from the Confederates right here: 🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️🏳️
Ok, they can join France on that.
@@professorcheckmatethe French military record on land is probably the best on earth.
Get smashed in one world war and you are labelled for life!
We got another American Civil War in Comment section 😂
In what way was this “from the south’s perspective”?
It said from the south's perspective not from the antebellum south's perspective.
Dude, you just fixed me. I was about to jump in Victoria 2 to continue my CSA save game and this pops up! Thanx you! (And can't wait for MoC)
Plz do Korean War from the Korean perspective!
You mean North Korean or South Korean?
@@TheTimoprimo Maybe both
North: where all our buildings?
South: these hot dogs delicious.
OTTOMAN UNIFORM PLEASE🙏😭😭 We need the votes on this
Amazing how history repeats itself
5:62 BLEEDING KANSAS MENTIONED
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My town got burned down 🔥🔥🔥
@@jack727dave5haha
As a European who is firmly interested in the American civil war, I find it tragic the fact that the civil is still raging across the US in my eyes anyway, it's baffles me the lack of respect descendents of both side have for each other. Slavery is evil we all know that, but alot of those boys in grey who died on the battlefield of Gettysburg weren't they were just very mislead in their beliefs and ideology and it is very dangerous to look upon history with the rose tinted glasses of modern standards and society. God bless those who died, God bless Abraham Lincoln the great emancipater and God bless the United States of America.
Anti-slavery was, by the time of the war, a centuries old ideology and had gained traction across all of the west. Saying that these southerners were “misled” is unfair. They could readily see the consequences of slavery. They could readily listen to abolitionist arguments. They chose to ignore anything opposing their convenient view that slavery was moral.
as what the other commenter said, the people who are still fighting the war in their mind are a minority now with the standing issues/debates that caused the american civil war such as civil rights, economic policies and practices, checks and balances of the federal government, are still very lively since the American declaration of independence
It is much more the root of the matter that still lives on today and is still a very important discussion to have and be educated on to know your rights, know your government, and know how are you going to live your life day in and out
Nope! Sorry, but while I appreciate you wanting to be kind to our southern brethren, lets not beat around the bush. From the highest leaders to the lowest soldiers, slavery was the core of it from day one. The speech by alexander stephens, the secession documents, the various letters by normal rank and file soldiers and lower officer, they fought for slavery and knew it.
I dont begrudge modern southerners for the sins of their ancestors. I begrudge modern southerners for perpetuating this garbage and not owning the past for what it is and moving on.
I mean, I'm a yank, but you dont see me whining and being all denialist just because the founding fathers were slave owners. They were slave owners, period, and we accept that as the product of their time that they were. No good would come of denying such flaws our founding fathers had.
It's important to remember that at the Absolute PEAK of slavery, less than 6% of southerners owned a slave/slaves, and those were all rich plantation owners who never saw a minute of battle.
For most of these young men, they were just doing what they were told to do & what they (in their young minds) thought was just defending their state, same as the Union boys
We’re divided for different reasons now, the domestic political atmosphere has become rather nuanced and complex. As a matter of fact, pro-southern nationalists (whether or not they have any legitimacy) are a non-issue compared to the plethora of other diverse civil issues we face today; many of which we cannot see eye-to-eye with, or even engage in productive and proper discourse.
Also, I would like to make clear that all pro-Confederacy and Neo-(National Socialist German Worker’s Party) folk DO NOT represent ALL Conservatives. As long you can agree with that, I am happy.
this channel is amazing.
Had Lee sent Reinforcements to Vicksburg instead of wasting his army on another failed Northern invasion, not only would the defeat at Gettysburg have been avoided, but Grant's siege of Vicksburg would have had to be abandoned. This would have been politically devastating to Lincoln.
The Union's greatest advantages were Lee's myopic obsession with Virginia and Bragg's hilarious incompetence.
That's if the confeds could've even took back parts of the Mississippi and Vicksburg, which this diversion of men and material would've also weakened their position in Virginia, where the union had threatened their capital earlier on in the war. Lee was relying on the demoralized north being too inept to fight after his expected victory at gettysburg, many in the north didn't see freeing the slaves as worth their life, especially during the new york riots.
Sure the now Union occupied river was withholding Texan beef and ag products from feeding the south, but I still think a victory at Gettysburg was the best opportunity to win for the south, especially at this point of the war. The Union navy was too active in the river for them to effectively secure Vicksburg prolly.
@@grandadmiralzaarin4962 Honestly the Confederates probably would have been better off with Joseph E. Johnson as the supreme commander of the army. His style may have been cautious but honestly his tactics were much more what the South needed as opposed to the aggressive gambles Lee was famous for
Nah, Vicksburg would still fall. What they should have done is what they did afterwards-reinforcing Bragg’s army to take the offensive in Tennessee.
Also, sack Bragg. The only reason he lasted so long in command is because Jeff Davis liked him.
@@bearsausage8599 not at all.
Firstly, the rail lines for transport existed and were still firmly in CSA possession. These lines remained open until late 1864 and secondary railways to Alabama still existed as late as early 1865 as troops were transferred from Mobile to aid in Hood's disastrous campaign. So the routes existed and when transfers did occur, they were decisive as at Chickamauga.
Secondly, Lee didn't have to worry about weakening Virginia's defense due to the cautiousness of George Meade. Meade was in the middle of reorganization of the Army he'd just taken over and Lee's foolish invasion of the North was partly due to his perception that he'd have the initiative. The soldiers he lost at Gettysburg and the resources wasted on that campaign would have been a decisive force to end the siege of Vicksburg.
Thirdly, a victory at Gettysburg wouldn't have secured Southern victory at all. It wouldn't have taken pressure off of Vicksburg, which still would have fallen even if Lee had won at Gettysburg and Lee had no capacity to threaten Washington DC since Meade had such a strong position at Gettysburg that even a victory would have wrecked Lee's army and not resulted in the destruction of the Army of the Potomac. Best case would be another Chancellorsville with a corps smashed and heavy casualties, but the Army of the Potomac withdrawing as a fighting force.
Essentially, Lee's strategy focused purely on the preservation of Virginia at the cost of other theaters. He gambled twice on a grand invasion of the North and both times disastrously lost massive portions of his army he couldn't afford. Conversely, had Lee detached divisions to the Mississippi theater, Grant would have been forced to abandon the siege due to the threat to his own lines of supply and communication a large confederate force to his rear would pose. He'd also have faced the threat of a possible counterattack by the defenders while he was engaged with the relief army. Grant himself was concerned about such a possibility and wanted to conclude the siege as quickly as possible for such a reason.
@@hfar_in_the_sky far better as Johnston understood the importance of maintaining the Army as a fighting force rather than set locations. His strategic retreat in Georgia was conducted masterfully and had Davis not removed him and placed Hood in charge, Sherman and Johnston would have been roughly at parity at Atlanta with Sherman's lines badly overstretched and Johnston able to grow stronger over time due to the interior lines connecting him to the other areas he could pull reinforcements from. At minimum, Sherman would have been forced to abandon the campaign and withdraw, at best, his army might have been defeated in detail.
To all the Lost Causers, have you actually read the Confederate Constitution?
Yup
They changed only two things of note
1. Made the presidency a single six year term (tbh very good idea)
2. Explicitly mentioned slavery and made it impossible to abolish
Yes, and I am not a lost causer but because I do not also subscribe to the righteous cause myth, I get lumped in with them. The war was largely about slavery but that was the issue that was cited for breaking up the political power the south had especially the state of virginia. While abolitionists did exist the shot callers in the north who made the war happen did not care much about the plight of blacks. I do not think the war had to be fought and a peaceful solution could have been had - possibly . Slavery, as ugly as it is, is not a just reason to invade a region. If you believe that it is then you must also believe that British were right in their continued presence in Africa. That was an argument given for the continued colonialization of Africa by the British post (their) emancipation. And it was not a hollow argument - it was one that the British at least attempted to make good on. Kind of like war in the modern day: Just because Putin is wrong that does make NATO right.
to all the federal shills, have you evaluated what northern victory brought to blacks? I.e. exceptional misery and death of millions by starvation cause northern "gentlemen" didn't explain to "freed" people how they can feed themselves, only that they can't work for their former masters.
@@davidw6684slavery is not a just reason to invade a region?
I couldn't think of anything more just.
Great video! Excellent work, as always.
I look forward to your next history lesson, Sir.