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At 17.50 you say the red army achieved nothing besides casualties. War happens in many ways they did not achieve any ground however the stress on soldiers and supplies contributed to the collapse
and then kids say if he just captured moscow they would have won, it didn’t work when napoleon took the city, so why would they surrender now, against an enemy that would exterminate every russian
@@DavidNavalSoviets already prepared to Transfer their new Capital to Ural Perm, and Novosibirsk at that point them just in case and the most industrial equipments is already transferred and now starting to pumped out new Tanks in Urals.
Even if Hitler had captured Moscow, that victory most probably wouldn't have handed him the war, as Napoleon's spirit could have told him upon his visit to L'Empereur's tomb, in 1940...
It was still very important but if they captured the Caucasus it was all over, no fuel for the Soviets regardless of how many trucks the US would send it would be futile.
My grand-grandfather, Andrei Il'ych perished in the Vyaz'ma forests 7:29 in November during Defence of Moscow His son, my grandfather, that time a little 7 year-old boy with two brothers, told me once how he saw his father for the last time. It was middle July 1941, near Smolensk, in his small hometown of Duhovschina. The German troops were rapidly approaching Smolensk, the "gate of Moscow", as it was called ever since Napoleon wars. Civilian women, children and elders were rushing out of Duhovschina, while lacking manpower Red Army units and people's militia were taking positions in the nearby approaches of the town It was a total mess His father, me grand-grandfather, who was a local man and grew up there, shortly before that just volunteerely enlisted as a soldier and was given an anti-tank rifle. At that morning he was eagerly rushing his wife and children, including my future grandfather, to settle up on the wooden cart, driven by an old horse. He hugged my grandfather, his brothers and mom, tightly for the last time in their lives. After the children were seated, he ran up to the horse, slapped it hard on the rump and shouted "Go!" Then he turned away and never look back, running towards his positions, which were only a hundred meters away as our family's house was on the western edge of that smalltown As my little grandfather was watching his father running away with anti-tank gun on the shoulder, he saw how in the distance, about 3 km away, from behind the western forest, the German panzers appeared and were slowly moving towards the town We always believed that my grand-grandfather died right at that particular battle, but in 2021 I looked up for the archives, and found out he survived that battle and fought up until November 1941, where he eventually went missing somewhere in Vyaz'ma deep forests, maybe in encirclement Many say that winter prevented Hitler from capturing Moscow, but if were not for heroic defense of Smolensk in the summer of 1941, the Wehrmacht could have reached Soviet Union's capital much earlier, and perhaps would have managed to take it By the way, I think that German casualties in battle of Moscow are being constantly lowered If Wehrmacht lost only 250.000-400.000 out of 2 million men of Army Center, as it claimed by West, while all Red Army lost from 600.000 to 1.3 million (from also total 2 million on that front, which was also not all-at-once amount), it means that after the battle it would be still 1.400.000 - 1.750.000 Wehrmacht soldiers against only 400.000-700.000 Soviets. With such claimed ratio of casualties Germans could easily destroy the remnants of Soviet troops, moreover it would mean that Germans won. But in fact, that didn't happen. So, logically, it seems to me a little bit nonsense
My deepest respect to your great-grandfather. He was a man of courage, getting his family to safety and fighting to protect both them and his Motherland. May his spirit and those of the 27 million Soviet dead rest in eternal peace and light.
Not to be "That Guy 🤓" but it's quite plausible that even with the 1.4-1.7M German figure that they still couldn't have taken Moscow even against a Smaller force. Oil was running out, their trucks were broken and lacked spare parts, partisans/red army remnants were wrecking the rear lines, and many other factors contributed to making the German army having a logistical nightmare especially with how rapid the advance was exhausting troops and material (which seldom had even a day to rest). not to mention the Germans having to stretch their forces along the entire length of the Front whereas the Soviets could ignore unimportant places to concentrate their strength for defense or counterattack alongside deploying or cycling in fresh forces straight from their reserve. in the end, the Wehrmacht's bane was Logistics, and almost every major offensive failure by them can be traced back to it. as shown later by Stalingrad, where several times the Germans could've ended the Battle but routinely had little to no ammunition and had to focus on company sized operations in-order to do anything. Strategies win Battles, Logistics win Wars. and ultimately while the Germans were good at winning the Battles, they fumbled hard when it came to everything else and actually winning the bigger picture. which was something their opponents were much better at doing.
Can we just stop arguing that the War was one by one country it was won by the sacrifice of every nation against the axis and not just the typical ''soviet blood,american War machine....'' no real coordination between country that turn Ally against a common ennemi and won with those sacrifice made, please have some respect
Everyone remembers the battle of Stalingard and the siege of Lenningrad but not that many remember the Battle of Moscow where brave soldiers fought to defend their homeland fighting for 3 months 5 days and losing 60'000 to 1'600'000 men dying for their families friends and lives
It's simply known as the Great Patriotic War in Russia. (Paraphrased) "Name is unknown, but your deed is immortal". My girlfriend is Belarusian, not many talk about what happened in Belarus
When talking about the Russian winter, why do people only ever think it affected the Germans? It has been widely accepted that the roll the winter played on helping the Soviets on the Eastern Front has been greatly exaggerated.
Because the Russians know how to live in very harsh winter conditions. More importantly, they know how to live in their land. Notice the Russian winter caps as opposed to the German steel helmets? Steel helmets won't keep you warm. Russian vehicles have wide tracks as opposed to German ones. They know the deep mud is a problem. Russians know how to make and keep fire in deep winter without spending fuel, Germans don't. The Russians were affected too, and very badly affected by the harsh winter, but they knew what was coming. For the Germans, let's just say they thought all winters are the same (conditions-wise, not temperature-wise).
@@itsblitz4437also their supply lines is always been attacked by Partisan movement , blowing the railways, and roads to slowdown them at maximum extent
There is legend that Zhukov critisised Stalin a lot (he was one of the few people who could afford this) and they had a big quarrel after the fall of Kiev. That time Zhukov was a Chef of JCS, and Stalin said:"I don't need a chef who critisises me" and Zhukov answered and "than i'll be not". In fact putting him as field marshal was like a punishment. He was lowered in occupation, not to mention that the task he was ordered with was almost impossible: to stop the enemy who has conquered the Europe and almost destroyed the whole Red Army. And against all odds Zhukov succeseded.
The only problem with this narrative is that Stalin remained in Moscow. If he believed stopping the Germans was impossible this would be suicidal. Stalin is a little more multifaceted than the traditional evil caricature presented in the west or the rosy hero that is sometimes presented by communists.
@ChristoffelTensors Maybe a myth, but not by west. And sure they respected each other: Zhukov owed Stalin his career, and Zhukov never failed him. But being dismissed from a position of a Chef of JCS to a field marshal is an obvious downgrade. And it's confirmed by russian historians that some failures in the start of the war happened due to direct Stalin's orders and when he stopped interrupting the work of his generals, started believing and trusting them to operate however they like, the tide of war changed. Hitler never trusted this generals and thought that he knows everything better.
Even if Germans seized Moscow, it would mean nothing. The Soviet people would still fight them and would never surrender. What did Napoleon get from capturing Moscow? As Mustafa Kemal Ataturk said "We will fight in the front of Ankara, in Ankara, behind the Ankara", answering the question on what he will do if the Greeks capture Ankara. (I am Greek still waiting for Armchair Historian to cover some parts of our 1.000 years of conflict between our noble people!!)
At this point for Soviets they are now preparing Ural Perm City and Novosibirsk to become a new Capital for this War and almost all Factories are now transfered at the back of Ural mountains and Siberia
@@ElBanditothey were already online just after they got moved. It's an incredible mostly underappreciated feat of USSR during that period. Best most people know is how in Stalingrad half destroyed factories rolled tanks straight into battle, which is also pretty notable.
Not only that but it would be a probably very costly victory for the Germans just remember how hard the Soviets fought for Stalingrad I think it's safe to say they would fought much more harder for their capital the city was also preparing for the Germans to arrive so had the Germans actually took Moscow I think we wouldn't be talking about Stalingrad as the bloodiest battle but about battle of Moscow
My great grandfather fought in the Pacific, and if you asked him who saw the worst combat during the war, he'd always say "oh the Soviets for sure", every damn time! Lol let that sink in..... The man fought DEEPLY entrenched Japanese fanatics, in a brutal island to island campaign.... And he always said he was better off than "those poor commies on the western front" .......
My grand-grand father was shot during the Battle for Moscow he survived but his health was really bad and he died in 1947. Also, it would be cool to have some info on lend-lease in this video too, but I think I saw about it in another video on this channel.
If memory serves, while Lend-Lease was trickling in, it wouldn't arrive in meaningful quantities until much later; I'd have to dig for the book again, but I remember reading that only 7% of the initial Lend-Lease to the Soviet Union would have been delivered at that point in time.
@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- leave it. These people cope knowing Britain had the largest empire.. many battles happened, many were lost. You could win 999 battles, but they only remember that 1 loss. Is what it is*
People often say how Germany almost reached Moscow, as if reaching the city would be a significant development. The Germans reached Leningrad and Stalingrad too, and what happened?
Thank you for the video! In my experience, I've not heard much about the Battle of Moscow, so I much appreciated this. I didn't know the situation was quite so desperate for a while. God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
A friend of my Grandfather always told me how they could see Moscows historical building from theor position. It was so close yet impossible to capture for them.
I can't explain how much i've enjoyed watching this channel for the past 4 years and seeing the animation and quality always improve. Always covering interesting topics with a clear and simple script making so many complicated scenarios/events easy for my smooth brain to understand.
@@jadeorbigoso5212In Russia it's called (roughly) the Great War for (of?) Fatherland. Never heard of the West Russian one, because there was no Russia as an independent state.
Georgy Zhukov essentially admitted that the country's fate hung in the balance, and the pendulum could swing in any direction. Zhukov called the period from October 6 to 13, 1941, when "the Mozhaisk defense line did not provide reliable protection," the most dangerous moment for the fate of Moscow and the Soviet Union. "The road to central Moscow and the Kremlin was wide open and it was only pure coincidence that the Germans just went straight in and took the city. Stalin and Beria wanted to give up several times and cede large parts of the Western Soviet Union to Hitler.
That seems... wrong? Stalin was adamant in defending Moscow. Whilst most of the Soviet government already evacuated to another city behind Moscow, he stayed in Moscow and never left. I don't think Stalin ever wanted to cede any apart of the Soviet Union to Germany.
@@BlackiLP011 If you actually saw the video, the SU had paper thin defense by early October in front of Moscow that could have been easily broken, but early onset of mud and snow and record high cold later on sapped Germany of speed and power. Also, without allied material support, the SU could have never advanced as much as it did in the later years of WWII.
@@BlackiLP011 It was the lack of resources and logistics that broke the Germans neck. Even if the soviets never learned from their mistakes and performed just as bad as during the Finnish winter war, nothing would have changed. Germany could not win. They lacked the resources and Russia is a logistical nightmare for any invading army. Also don't forget that while Germanys land conquest of Russia looks impressive on the map, it all just means having more territory to guard and garrison - stretching their low resources even more. Honestly, the only realistic chance Germany had in defeating Russia is to not come as conquerors, but as anti-communist liberators - especially to countries like Ukraine and the baltic states. But this was impossible due to the Mustache Guy's ideology.
No it was the liberation of Bangladesh and the Pakistanis made a massive genocide (I am a Bangladeshi so I know about it) It was called "Operation Searchlight"
I would absolutely love to see you make a video covering the Spanish-American War! I feel like it’s mostly forgotten and would be super interesting to watch!!
7:00 Those are Panthers and 2 years too early 13:24 Those are Panzer IVs not Panzer IIIs 13:27 Those T34s have the "Hexagonal" turret which didn't see use until after the T34M project was abandoned and the new turret married to current T34s later in 1942 15:00 The Panzer IV witht he L/43 gun wouldn't see service until March 1942 after the winter 16:30 All those men have German Mauser 98s 18:35 Marder III Ausf. M tank destroyers weren't made until May 1943
agree with most things, except Mauser. What's strange about the usage of well-known rifle that your country produced in 9 millions units? It was spread well enough to be used extensively in combat and it's not like German industry had unlimited production lines at the time to support the troops with most modern rifles instead. Like the extensive use of horses by German army during ww2 is obscured too by the propagandized tanks and motorcycles, same as their sever lack of sub-machine guns.
I think the reason for the early Panthers is that its a reference to the board game Axis and Allies where they have German tanks represented by panthers.
If i remember from the ww2 timeghost channel that , at some point, the amount of tanks during operation typhoone was 19 tanks, still managing to push ahead
My russian great grand mother used to tell me stories about the defencive preparations around Moscow, about how as a young girl she was sent to dig trenches before being evacuated. Chills me every time I watch videos about WWII and the Russian campaign. She also lost her older brother in Leningrad. He was a pilot and was hit down by german AAA after like 2 months of service. She did not live long enough to find out where did he crash and had no place to bring flowers to. She was always sad about it and was trying her best to find out this place way in her 80s… I feel like that generation was made of way stronger people then I’m… ❤
Just a small remark: as a man from Smolensk, I can assure you that Rzhev is absolutely and completely in the wrong place on the 12:00 map segment) It should be quite significantly further north-east.
Lend-Lease supplies were significant, but in the context of the Soviet Union's efforts to produce its own armaments, they were relatively modest. Here's a comparison of specific figures: 1. Tanks: - Lend-Lease supplies: The USA supplied the USSR with about 7,000 tanks, mostly light tanks (M3 "Lee", M5 "Stuart", and M24 "Chaffee") and medium tanks (M4 "Sherman"). - Soviet production: The Soviet Union produced over 80,000 tanks, including the T-34, which is 10 times more than the number received via Lend-Lease. 2. Aircraft: - Lend-Lease supplies: The USA supplied over 18,000 aircraft, including fighters ("Spitfire", "Hurricane", "P-40"), bombers ("Liberator"), and transport planes ("C-47"). - Soviet production: The Soviet Union produced about 140,000 aircraft during the war, including fighters (e.g., Yak-1, La-5) and bombers (e.g., Il-2). This is 7-8 times more than the Lend-Lease supplies. 3. Trucks and Automobiles: - Lend-Lease supplies: The USA supplied about 400,000 vehicles, mostly trucks (Dodge, Studebaker, GMC). - Soviet production: The Soviet Union produced about 700,000 vehicles, including trucks, passenger cars, and specialized vehicles. Lend-Lease vehicles accounted for about 57% of domestic production. 4. Food and Material Resources: - Lend-Lease also included a significant amount of foodstuffs and materials like oil, rubber, and copper, vital for the Soviet economy. - Food: Over 4 million tons of food, including meat, sugar, wheat, and canned goods, were supplied. - Oil and materials: Lend-Lease also supplied essential resources like oil, rubber, and copper, crucial for the Soviet war effort. 5. Weapons and Ammunition: - Lend-Lease supplies: The USA provided small arms, ammunition, artillery, and mines, but most artillery and small arms were produced by the Soviet Union. - Between 1941 and 1945, the USSR produced over 100,000 artillery pieces and more than 10 billion rounds of small arms ammunition, significantly exceeding Lend-Lease supplies. Comparison: - While Lend-Lease was important, especially in the early years, it made up a small portion of the armaments and equipment produced by the USSR. The Soviet Union used its industrial capacity to produce most of the war materials. - The production of tanks and aircraft in the Soviet Union far exceeded Lend-Lease supplies. - The supply of vehicles and trucks, however, was crucial for improving logistics and transportation to the front. In conclusion, Lend-Lease played an important role, but the Soviet Union's mass production and industrial mobilization were the main contributors to the success in the war.
During World War II, the Soviet Union relied on both internal resources and foreign assistance to produce weapons. While the majority of critical resources came from within the USSR, Lend-Lease provided essential support in areas where the Soviet Union faced shortages. Below is a summary of the resources delivered through Lend-Lease, their volumes, and their proportion compared to Soviet domestic production. 1. Oil and Petroleum Products - Lend-Lease Deliveries: The United States and the United Kingdom supplied the Soviet Union with approximately 2.5 million tons of oil and 3.5 million tons of petroleum products. - Soviet Production: The Soviet Union produced about 150 million tons of oil between 1941-1945, covering most of its wartime needs. - Percentage of Soviet Production: Lend-Lease supplies accounted for about 1.5% of the total oil production in the USSR. Although Lend-Lease was important for fueling the military, especially in the early years of the war, the Soviet Union largely supplied its own oil. 2. Metals - Lend-Lease Deliveries: The US provided about 1.2 million tons of strategic metals, including aluminum, copper, lead, and tin. - Soviet Production: The Soviet Union produced approximately 10 million tons of steel and more than 2 million tons of aluminum during the war. - Percentage of Soviet Production: Lend-Lease supplies accounted for less than 5% of total metal production in the USSR. Despite this, these metals were critical for aircraft and tank production. 3. Weapons and Ammunition - Lend-Lease Deliveries: The United States sent various types of weapons, including small arms, artillery, ammunition, and mines, but most Soviet weapons were produced domestically. - Soviet Production: The Soviet Union produced over 100,000 artillery pieces and billions of rounds of small arms ammunition during the war. - Percentage of Soviet Production: Lend-Lease supplies made up a small proportion of the total Soviet weapon production. However, these supplies strengthened the Soviet army, especially in the early stages of the war. Summary: Lend-Lease was vital in supplying the Soviet Union with necessary resources and equipment during World War II, especially in areas where Soviet production faced challenges. However, the majority of critical resources, such as oil, metals, and weapons, came from domestic production. Lend-Lease accounted for a significant portion of some materials, such as vehicles and food, but overall, it made up a smaller percentage of total wartime production in the USSR. In terms of vehicles, Lend-Lease made up 36% of total Soviet production, while aircraft accounted for 13%. Lend-Lease provided around 1.5% of the total oil production and less than 5% of metal production. Despite these contributions, the Soviet Union largely relied on its own resources to produce weapons and support the war effort.
A factor not mentioned is the mid October panic in Moscow when law and order broke down rail stations were full of people desperate to get away with trains taken by storm , stores ransacked , party cards thrown away in the street and administration burning their files the Germans were sure to have been informed of this by friendly embassies and made them think it would be easy In fact , Stalin nominated the commissar Artemei to re-establish order which was done in a few days with great brutality that influenced Stalin not to leave the city , the General were told to keep their lines , or else !
@@swatcccp4673 lame excuses, if he has them already there is no point. also there are many other errors. the germans tanks shown arent the correct one, neither are the soviet
Armhcair Historian I really enjoy your videos and for a young and new historian like myself I like to absorb as much info as I can especially when it comes to my favourite conflict WW2 I have seen your videos on Poland in WW2 but I feel like it is an extremely underrated and undercovered topic so I hope one day you will do some more videos as the topic is quite interesting thanks for the work you do and have a good day
Armchair historian, with all due respect do not spread misinformation. The myth of the "Siberian divisions" was made by the germans which used to say "the Siberians are coming!". In reality, only 14 divisions were called west during August to October 1941, Of these 14 divisions, two were small mountain cavalry divisions from Central Asia, while the three tank and mechanised divisions were very new and had very little (if anything) to do with Siberian personnel. The 58th and 60th tank divisions had only started forming in March-April 1941. Of the rifle divisions, three arrived in August and September and were sent to 11th Army defending the southern approaches to Leningrad or 7th Army defending the far north against the Finns. Only six rifle divisions arrived in October and only four of these went to any Army that could be even remotely linked to defending Moscow against Army Group Centre. These were the 32nd, 93rd, 78th and 238th Rifle Divisions. Of these only the 32nd and 93rd Rifle Divisions had a significant proportion of Siberian personnel, while the 238th had only started forming in March 1941 in Central Asia. What of Siberian divisions formed after 22nd June 1941? There were six rifle divisions formed after June 1941 in the Siberia Military District. They were the 366th, 374th, 382nd, 372nd, 376th and 378th Rifle Divisions. All six divisions were assigned to the 59th Army in Volkhov Front defending south of Leningrad in November 1941. These were all brand new Divisions, their combat performance was average and they had nothing to do with the winter offensive against Army Group Centre. Whichever way data is analysed, the whole Siberian transfer story is a myth in all respects: including timing, numbers, source of personnel and overall combat performance. Source: Soviet millatry documents, and this article: www.operationbarbarossa.net/the-siberian-divisions-and-the-battle-for-moscow-in-1941-42/
Red Army also terribly lacked of supplies in that period as well, and also suffered from bad logistics as mud had effects on both sides. Especially even with such german-claimed ratio of losses and remnants of troops on both sides. In the video it is said that "for Soviet tanks it was easier", but in fact that was not much difference. If you read Soviet memories or watch video chronicles, there were hundreds of stuck in mud transports and tanks as well. "Technical" ability to overcome mud doesn't mean the actual mobility. Moreover, even marshal Fedor von Bock when describing battle of Moscow admitted that the main reason of their failure was "underestimating of Soviet troops" and mud/logistics/frost was only one of the points. It was Manstein who after the war like a beaten boy wanted to portray everything as if "he fought like tiger but frost constrained him from winning". Every loss of Germans in their memoirs almost always had "objective reasons", while every their victory was "their personal skill and bravery"😂
It was propaganda to influence the German people to be comfortable with genocide in Russia. They already influenced them to accept Jewish as sub-human.
Но были англо-советы, так в некоторых речах нацистские идеологии описывали союзников А ещё были недолюди евреи и люди третьего сорта, народ рабов для Германии, то есть славяне
people talk about the great German generals. But they, A: didn't plan for winter, B: didn't plan for the pows, C: didn't plan for enough supplies. D: often had no intelligence of enemy formation they where facing. They where one trick ponies that where fighting wars from a hundred years ago. They had mastered modern tactics, and had no concept of modern warfare.
@@АнатолийШахов-ж5ц ну, в Беларуси немцев партизаны настреляли целую армию, не считая просто огромнейшего количества составов пущенных под откос. Жаль что этим немецким тварям после войны позволили иметь свое государство, это было ошибкой.
This guy probably didn't study history very well. He did not explain how Stalin, in a few weeks after the German invasion, was able to relocate about 2,000 factories from Ukraine and Belarus beyond the Urals. How many people, fuel and trucks were needed for this. After all, all these resources could and should have been directed to the front. Many thousands of trucks were seized from the army to commit this logistical horror. There is an opinion that even today no country in the world will be able to transport 2,000 factories over several thousand kilometers in a few weeks.
I'd argue that Stalin made the right move there though. It would have been a massive gamble to not move the factories. Imagine if that failed though, the Soviets would have lost literally everything with no possible way to continue a war.
@@flyingsquirrell6953 Yes, if the factories could not be moved, the USSR could most likely lose the war. It was only by 1943 that the USSR was able to fully heat all the factories at full capacity.
The Battle of Moscow stands as one of the most pivotal moments in World War II, showcasing the resilience of the Soviet forces against a seemingly unstoppable Wehrmacht. The Soviet winter counteroffensive was a masterclass in using weather, geography, and sheer determination to halt a major invasion. It’s remarkable how the Red Army managed to regroup so quickly after the initial shock of Operation Barbarossa. This battle truly marked the beginning of the end for the German advance in the East.
@@grandcanyon-d4dno, it was Moscow. It demonstrated that germans had their limits too and more importantly they were already pushing them. Stalingrad is when it became really apparent.
@kindlingking if their laeder let his generals do their work, Europe might have fallen, including Russia and Britain, what if Japan attacked the lend leases? If Stalingrad had fallen, Germany would have had their way to so much oil for their war machines.
High school history classes can’t cover topics in depth because they have too much time and ground to cover. IMO they should focus less on wars and focus more on civics. Every American should read the Federalist papers and Antifederalist papers.
One of the most deadliest and horrifying battles (before Stalingrad) during World War 2. Not just World War 2, but the whole human history. It's crazy to imagine how can a man do to one another.
Marshal Zhukov actually said that Stalin's Chief Military Value was as a Military Economist. He credited him for the Russian's being able to throw huge numbers of soldiers into battle against the Nazi's.
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This was just what I was looking for! Amazing video!
1:03 Western Front??
is -40 farenheit and -40 celcius the same??!!??
At 17.50 you say the red army achieved nothing besides casualties. War happens in many ways they did not achieve any ground however the stress on soldiers and supplies contributed to the collapse
You can't expect someone to surrender if you literally named your war to them as " War of Annihilation"
and then kids say if he just captured moscow they would have won, it didn’t work when napoleon took the city, so why would they surrender now, against an enemy that would exterminate every russian
@@DavidNavalSoviets already prepared to Transfer their new Capital to Ural Perm, and Novosibirsk at that point them just in case and the most industrial equipments is already transferred and now starting to pumped out new Tanks in Urals.
@@DavidNaval I think that the Napoleon comparisons aren’t that great, the differences are too great.
@@DavidNaval they thought Soviet Union is similar to France both Politically and Geographically
@@DavidNavalif Moscow falls, stalingrad won't make it neither other city, ussr will continue but so weak
How dare RUclips hide this from me for 3 minutes
It was 50 minutes for me
It was an hour for me!
We're not doing another "43 likes in 2 seconds? Bro fell off" type of comments again
Two hours for me youtube are you serious!!!!
WTF youtube?!
I just know a Sabaton fan is going to quote the lyrics to their Moscow song eventually.
I know this is a bit of a knob question but what was that song?
@@robertoleary5470 The song was called: Defence Of Moscow.
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Defense of Moscow @@robertoleary5470
Even if Hitler had captured Moscow, that victory most probably wouldn't have handed him the war, as Napoleon's spirit could have told him upon his visit to L'Empereur's tomb, in 1940...
It was still very important but if they captured the Caucasus it was all over, no fuel for the Soviets regardless of how many trucks the US would send it would be futile.
@@user_____M The US was also a major exporter of fuel.
Just ask the Japanese.
napoleon's campaign and the one from Hitler are different wars. the latter was a full sized front the fromer a small spear head,
idk why people compare Hitler's Soviet Union invasion with Napoleon's march on Moscow, completely different scenarios.
@@justafaniv1097 there is simply no way to ship that much fuel across the pacific and transport it to western russia.
My grand-grandfather, Andrei Il'ych perished in the Vyaz'ma forests 7:29 in November during Defence of Moscow
His son, my grandfather, that time a little 7 year-old boy with two brothers, told me once how he saw his father for the last time.
It was middle July 1941, near Smolensk, in his small hometown of Duhovschina.
The German troops were rapidly approaching Smolensk, the "gate of Moscow", as it was called ever since Napoleon wars.
Civilian women, children and elders were rushing out of Duhovschina, while lacking manpower Red Army units and people's militia were taking positions in the nearby approaches of the town
It was a total mess
His father, me grand-grandfather, who was a local man and grew up there, shortly before that just volunteerely enlisted as a soldier and was given an anti-tank rifle. At that morning he was eagerly rushing his wife and children, including my future grandfather, to settle up on the wooden cart, driven by an old horse.
He hugged my grandfather, his brothers and mom, tightly for the last time in their lives.
After the children were seated, he ran up to the horse, slapped it hard on the rump and shouted "Go!"
Then he turned away and never look back, running towards his positions, which were only a hundred meters away as our family's house was on the western edge of that smalltown
As my little grandfather was watching his father running away with anti-tank gun on the shoulder, he saw how in the distance, about 3 km away, from behind the western forest, the German panzers appeared and were slowly moving towards the town
We always believed that my grand-grandfather died right at that particular battle, but in 2021 I looked up for the archives, and found out he survived that battle and fought up until November 1941, where he eventually went missing somewhere in Vyaz'ma deep forests, maybe in encirclement
Many say that winter prevented Hitler from capturing Moscow, but if were not for heroic defense of Smolensk in the summer of 1941, the Wehrmacht could have reached Soviet Union's capital much earlier, and perhaps would have managed to take it
By the way, I think that German casualties in battle of Moscow are being constantly lowered
If Wehrmacht lost only 250.000-400.000 out of 2 million men of Army Center, as it claimed by West, while all Red Army lost from 600.000 to 1.3 million (from also total 2 million on that front, which was also not all-at-once amount), it means that after the battle it would be still 1.400.000 - 1.750.000 Wehrmacht soldiers against only 400.000-700.000 Soviets. With such claimed ratio of casualties Germans could easily destroy the remnants of Soviet troops, moreover it would mean that Germans won. But in fact, that didn't happen. So, logically, it seems to me a little bit nonsense
What a story... There are millions similar to that and every each one of them is touching and heartbraking.
My deepest respect to your great-grandfather. He was a man of courage, getting his family to safety and fighting to protect both them and his Motherland. May his spirit and those of the 27 million Soviet dead rest in eternal peace and light.
Wow that's an absolutely incredible story. Your great grandfather is a hero and literally helped changed the course of history. Spasiba.
Thank you very much guys, i didn't expect i will receive such warm words, thank you for everyone, and may there be peace upon the world!
Not to be "That Guy 🤓" but it's quite plausible that even with the 1.4-1.7M German figure that they still couldn't have taken Moscow even against a Smaller force. Oil was running out, their trucks were broken and lacked spare parts, partisans/red army remnants were wrecking the rear lines, and many other factors contributed to making the German army having a logistical nightmare especially with how rapid the advance was exhausting troops and material (which seldom had even a day to rest). not to mention the Germans having to stretch their forces along the entire length of the Front whereas the Soviets could ignore unimportant places to concentrate their strength for defense or counterattack alongside deploying or cycling in fresh forces straight from their reserve. in the end, the Wehrmacht's bane was Logistics, and almost every major offensive failure by them can be traced back to it. as shown later by Stalingrad, where several times the Germans could've ended the Battle but routinely had little to no ammunition and had to focus on company sized operations in-order to do anything.
Strategies win Battles, Logistics win Wars. and ultimately while the Germans were good at winning the Battles, they fumbled hard when it came to everything else and actually winning the bigger picture. which was something their opponents were much better at doing.
That the Soviets would destroy Berlin only 4 years later was prob unimaginable to the Germans
With a LOT of help from American air power.
@ the Battle of Berlin was almost entirely Soviet, even the air strikes
@@KO-sx9uy yeah, well, soviet supply lines were more american than any other thing. US lend-lease act contributed greatly in Soviet Union's victory.
@ Most of the fighting in WW2 was done by the Soviets. I’m American I don’t know why you’re acting like America won the war.
Can we just stop arguing that the War was one by one country it was won by the sacrifice of every nation against the axis and not just the typical ''soviet blood,american War machine....'' no real coordination between country that turn Ally against a common ennemi and won with those sacrifice made, please have some respect
9:40 Historically accurate battle of Moscow
Radioactove stalin gaze)
Staline blast
@@kg7162Joe Biden: *is it possible to learn this power?*
more like staling glazers is crazy
@@SleepyjoeOG ''not from a capitalist pig''
Battle for Budapest please
Or WW2 from the Hungarian perspective.
@@itsblitz4437Agreed
Or battle of vienna 1945 or Breslau
That'd be great and something I have already requested, so I agree.
Why though? just was a violent onesided 2 month siege
Everyone remembers the battle of Stalingard and the siege of Lenningrad but not that many remember the Battle of Moscow where brave soldiers fought to defend their homeland fighting for 3 months 5 days and losing 60'000 to 1'600'000 men dying for their families friends and lives
Good point very underrated.
It's simply known as the Great Patriotic War in Russia. (Paraphrased) "Name is unknown, but your deed is immortal". My girlfriend is Belarusian, not many talk about what happened in Belarus
@@Mellow_Man2001 not only in russia, many ex soviet countries call it that way
dying to protect one of the worst regimes in human history, is what you meant to say.
@@chrisstucker1813 They even had to crawl through bunch of dead corpses
North Africa, Pacfic War, Western Front: Hard difficulty
Eastern front: nightmare mode
Pacific War is nightmare mode considering what happened to China
@@300thNPC
China was under equipped and strategicly weak
@@اسكندرفكار I was referring to the genocide
@@300thNPC
The og comment was mostly about the tensity of the military struggle
@@اسكندرفكار Still not accurate. Pacific War wasn't any less brutal than the Eastern Front, it was just on a smaller scale.
glad to see this video remade
Same here.
wait this was remade?
@@build4timetfisakilometer yes he made a video on moscow a few years ago
@@itsblitz4437
When talking about the Russian winter, why do people only ever think it affected the Germans? It has been widely accepted that the roll the winter played on helping the Soviets on the Eastern Front has been greatly exaggerated.
Because the Russians know how to live in very harsh winter conditions. More importantly, they know how to live in their land.
Notice the Russian winter caps as opposed to the German steel helmets? Steel helmets won't keep you warm.
Russian vehicles have wide tracks as opposed to German ones. They know the deep mud is a problem.
Russians know how to make and keep fire in deep winter without spending fuel, Germans don't.
The Russians were affected too, and very badly affected by the harsh winter, but they knew what was coming.
For the Germans, let's just say they thought all winters are the same (conditions-wise, not temperature-wise).
Because it significantly simplifies everything, eliminating the need for further analysis and comparison of facts.
I wouldve thought you knew this Sun-Tzu, but have you ever tried fighting a battle while you can't feel your limbs because its really really cold?
Russians were acclimated to the weather. Russians are from Russia. Real complicated huh?
@ericeverett510 Yeah because all Russians are from Siberia, and obviously Russian fuel also doesn't freeze in the cold.
Another factor why Moscow didnt fall is that Soviet troops didn't suffer from the lack of supplies
Down side of being the invader.
@@itsblitz4437also their supply lines is always been attacked by Partisan movement , blowing the railways, and roads to slowdown them at maximum extent
Imagine if the Japanese attacked the lend leases @@jadeorbigoso5212
@@itsblitz4437 Unless you’re the Mongols.
Soviet scorched earth policies didn’t help either
The production quality is impressive. Engaging writing. Slick graphics. Very good.
Always great with the Armchair Historian.
@@philipsullivan4885 thats not an acronym you want to use kek
@@philipsullivan4885 TAH.
There is legend that Zhukov critisised Stalin a lot (he was one of the few people who could afford this) and they had a big quarrel after the fall of Kiev. That time Zhukov was a Chef of JCS, and Stalin said:"I don't need a chef who critisises me" and Zhukov answered and "than i'll be not".
In fact putting him as field marshal was like a punishment. He was lowered in occupation, not to mention that the task he was ordered with was almost impossible: to stop the enemy who has conquered the Europe and almost destroyed the whole Red Army.
And against all odds Zhukov succeseded.
The only problem with this narrative is that Stalin remained in Moscow. If he believed stopping the Germans was impossible this would be suicidal.
Stalin is a little more multifaceted than the traditional evil caricature presented in the west or the rosy hero that is sometimes presented by communists.
It’s a myth created in the West. Zhukov had great respect for Stalin and Stalin respected him likewise.
Zhukov hated Stalin whatchu mean. Stalin feared Zhukov too @@ChristoffelTensors
@ChristoffelTensors
Maybe a myth, but not by west.
And sure they respected each other: Zhukov owed Stalin his career, and Zhukov never failed him.
But being dismissed from a position of a Chef of JCS to a field marshal is an obvious downgrade.
And it's confirmed by russian historians that some failures in the start of the war happened due to direct Stalin's orders and when he stopped interrupting the work of his generals, started believing and trusting them to operate however they like, the tide of war changed.
Hitler never trusted this generals and thought that he knows everything better.
Massive props to the artist(s) who do such amazing work on these!
Even if Germans seized Moscow, it would mean nothing. The Soviet people would still fight them and would never surrender.
What did Napoleon get from capturing Moscow?
As Mustafa Kemal Ataturk said "We will fight in the front of Ankara, in Ankara, behind the Ankara", answering the question on what he will do if the Greeks capture Ankara. (I am Greek still waiting for Armchair Historian to cover some parts of our 1.000 years of conflict between our noble people!!)
At this point for Soviets they are now preparing Ural Perm City and Novosibirsk to become a new Capital for this War and almost all Factories are now transfered at the back of Ural mountains and Siberia
You mean the Turkish War of Independence?
Besides, the Soviets would be getting massive economic help from the allies before their relocated factories can be fully online.
@@ElBanditothey were already online just after they got moved. It's an incredible mostly underappreciated feat of USSR during that period. Best most people know is how in Stalingrad half destroyed factories rolled tanks straight into battle, which is also pretty notable.
Not only that but it would be a probably very costly victory for the Germans just remember how hard the Soviets fought for Stalingrad I think it's safe to say they would fought much more harder for their capital the city was also preparing for the Germans to arrive so had the Germans actually took Moscow I think we wouldn't be talking about Stalingrad as the bloodiest battle but about battle of Moscow
12:42 borodino is also the place where Napoleon took heavy casualty during russian invasion and it was the turning point.
I once made history presentation based on your old Moscow video, Im so happy to see it being updated 😊
My great grandfather fought in the Pacific, and if you asked him who saw the worst combat during the war, he'd always say "oh the Soviets for sure", every damn time! Lol let that sink in..... The man fought DEEPLY entrenched Japanese fanatics, in a brutal island to island campaign.... And he always said he was better off than "those poor commies on the western front" .......
My grand-grand father was shot during the Battle for Moscow he survived but his health was really bad and he died in 1947. Also, it would be cool to have some info on lend-lease in this video too, but I think I saw about it in another video on this channel.
If memory serves, while Lend-Lease was trickling in, it wouldn't arrive in meaningful quantities until much later; I'd have to dig for the book again, but I remember reading that only 7% of the initial Lend-Lease to the Soviet Union would have been delivered at that point in time.
Can u do a video on the fall of Singapore or Hong Kong cos those were Britain's most embarassing defeats
That would be awesome I like to see more Armchair Historian videos on the Pacific War.
Or Bill Slims victory over the Japanese at Kohima and Imphal
@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- leave it. These people cope knowing Britain had the largest empire.. many battles happened, many were lost. You could win 999 battles, but they only remember that 1 loss.
Is what it is*
@@Mellow_Man2001 everyone remembers the usa for vietnam and afghanistan. copium
@@Mellow_Man2001 I can feel your victim complex.
"There is no greater training comrade then fighting to survive"-comrade comminsar call of duty 2
People often say how Germany almost reached Moscow, as if reaching the city would be a significant development.
The Germans reached Leningrad and Stalingrad too, and what happened?
You should consider covering the 1848 revolutions!
If I'm not mistaken that would be austria, france, and prussia right?
@@miscellaneousedits-dm8nditd be like half of europe tbh
Epic history already did that
@@dominikjanda8832 well armchair isn't epic
You mixed up the 2 numbers in the middle.
Great quality videos.
Can we all agree, this guy captivates us with his videos!
No
Thank you for the video! In my experience, I've not heard much about the Battle of Moscow, so I much appreciated this. I didn't know the situation was quite so desperate for a while.
God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
A friend of my Grandfather always told me how they could see Moscows historical building from theor position. It was so close yet impossible to capture for them.
I can't explain how much i've enjoyed watching this channel for the past 4 years and seeing the animation and quality always improve. Always covering interesting topics with a clear and simple script making so many complicated scenarios/events easy for my smooth brain to understand.
@17:22 moving the freeze-proof siberian troops into Moscow was a total boss move...
Minor Inaccuracy at 1:03 : On The Eastern Front not the west
For Russia its the Western front for them. The eastern front for them is the Manchurian Front
In Russia its literally called West Russian War or the Great Patriotic War
@@jadeorbigoso5212he said in the second ww that's why I said 1:03
@@jadeorbigoso5212In Russia it's called (roughly) the Great War for (of?) Fatherland. Never heard of the West Russian one, because there was no Russia as an independent state.
@@drunkendwarf658717:29 try to watch it again
Georgy Zhukov essentially admitted that the country's fate hung in the balance, and the pendulum could swing in any direction. Zhukov called the period from October 6 to 13, 1941, when "the Mozhaisk defense line did not provide reliable protection," the most dangerous moment for the fate of Moscow and the Soviet Union. "The road to central Moscow and the Kremlin was wide open and it was only pure coincidence that the Germans just went straight in and took the city. Stalin and Beria wanted to give up several times and cede large parts of the Western Soviet Union to Hitler.
Thank Grandpa Winter for coming in sooner than expected that year.
@@ElBandito It was the determination and willpower of the Soviet People that defeated the Reich.
That seems... wrong? Stalin was adamant in defending Moscow. Whilst most of the Soviet government already evacuated to another city behind Moscow, he stayed in Moscow and never left. I don't think Stalin ever wanted to cede any apart of the Soviet Union to Germany.
@@BlackiLP011 If you actually saw the video, the SU had paper thin defense by early October in front of Moscow that could have been easily broken, but early onset of mud and snow and record high cold later on sapped Germany of speed and power. Also, without allied material support, the SU could have never advanced as much as it did in the later years of WWII.
@@BlackiLP011 It was the lack of resources and logistics that broke the Germans neck. Even if the soviets never learned from their mistakes and performed just as bad as during the Finnish winter war, nothing would have changed. Germany could not win. They lacked the resources and Russia is a logistical nightmare for any invading army.
Also don't forget that while Germanys land conquest of Russia looks impressive on the map, it all just means having more territory to guard and garrison - stretching their low resources even more.
Honestly, the only realistic chance Germany had in defeating Russia is to not come as conquerors, but as anti-communist liberators - especially to countries like Ukraine and the baltic states. But this was impossible due to the Mustache Guy's ideology.
Babe, wake up. The Armchair Historian just dropped.
Wish I had a babe to wake up
Please cover 1971 Indo-Pakistan war, 1967 Sino-Indian border skirmishes, Kargil war, Sino-Vietnam war and Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia.
He already did India Pakistan 1965
@@ravenmusic639271 is entirely different
71 is second Indo-pakistan war?
No it was the liberation of Bangladesh and the Pakistanis made a massive genocide (I am a Bangladeshi so I know about it)
It was called "Operation Searchlight"
For some reason people don't realize that Red army was ountnumbered by Axis powers in Eastern front till the end of 1943
I think you mean till the end of 1941
till the end of 1942* by 1943-1944 the germans were outnumbered 3 to 1 already
I would absolutely love to see you make a video covering the Spanish-American War! I feel like it’s mostly forgotten and would be super interesting to watch!!
I agree
So in another sense the battle of Moscow was what Hitler wished for when Berlin got surrounded
7:00 Those are Panthers and 2 years too early
13:24 Those are Panzer IVs not Panzer IIIs
13:27 Those T34s have the "Hexagonal" turret which didn't see use until after the T34M project was abandoned and the new turret married to current T34s later in 1942
15:00 The Panzer IV witht he L/43 gun wouldn't see service until March 1942 after the winter
16:30 All those men have German Mauser 98s
18:35 Marder III Ausf. M tank destroyers weren't made until May 1943
agree with most things, except Mauser. What's strange about the usage of well-known rifle that your country produced in 9 millions units? It was spread well enough to be used extensively in combat and it's not like German industry had unlimited production lines at the time to support the troops with most modern rifles instead. Like the extensive use of horses by German army during ww2 is obscured too by the propagandized tanks and motorcycles, same as their sever lack of sub-machine guns.
@@dimas3829 Because they're Soviet troops
i love u (no homo)
White Americans doing European history as always, bro.
I think the reason for the early Panthers is that its a reference to the board game Axis and Allies where they have German tanks represented by panthers.
This is the video we wanted but never new.
This is an alternate historians dream come true
If i remember from the ww2 timeghost channel that , at some point, the amount of tanks during operation typhoone was 19 tanks, still managing to push ahead
My russian great grand mother used to tell me stories about the defencive preparations around Moscow, about how as a young girl she was sent to dig trenches before being evacuated. Chills me every time I watch videos about WWII and the Russian campaign.
She also lost her older brother in Leningrad. He was a pilot and was hit down by german AAA after like 2 months of service.
She did not live long enough to find out where did he crash and had no place to bring flowers to.
She was always sad about it and was trying her best to find out this place way in her 80s…
I feel like that generation was made of way stronger people then I’m… ❤
11:15 HOI4 Players: IS THIS HOI4 REFERENCE 😮😮😮😮😮😮
Kind of, I don't think it's intentional though, I think it was just an extra detail for the film
Love the content brother
Bro can you do the evolution of Italian uniforms from the unification to modern days?
Thanks for this awesome new video!
Just a small remark: as a man from Smolensk, I can assure you that Rzhev is absolutely and completely in the wrong place on the 12:00 map segment) It should be quite significantly further north-east.
The German Army had almost 20 % casualties before moscow. The Wehrmacht was already too exhausted. Thanks to the fierce sowjet resistance.
0:58 Turning point of the Western front?
LOVE the videos, bro! ❤️👍🏻
Lend-Lease supplies were significant, but in the context of the Soviet Union's efforts to produce its own armaments, they were relatively modest. Here's a comparison of specific figures:
1. Tanks:
- Lend-Lease supplies: The USA supplied the USSR with about 7,000 tanks, mostly light tanks (M3 "Lee", M5 "Stuart", and M24 "Chaffee") and medium tanks (M4 "Sherman").
- Soviet production: The Soviet Union produced over 80,000 tanks, including the T-34, which is 10 times more than the number received via Lend-Lease.
2. Aircraft:
- Lend-Lease supplies: The USA supplied over 18,000 aircraft, including fighters ("Spitfire", "Hurricane", "P-40"), bombers ("Liberator"), and transport planes ("C-47").
- Soviet production: The Soviet Union produced about 140,000 aircraft during the war, including fighters (e.g., Yak-1, La-5) and bombers (e.g., Il-2). This is 7-8 times more than the Lend-Lease supplies.
3. Trucks and Automobiles:
- Lend-Lease supplies: The USA supplied about 400,000 vehicles, mostly trucks (Dodge, Studebaker, GMC).
- Soviet production: The Soviet Union produced about 700,000 vehicles, including trucks, passenger cars, and specialized vehicles. Lend-Lease vehicles accounted for about 57% of domestic production.
4. Food and Material Resources:
- Lend-Lease also included a significant amount of foodstuffs and materials like oil, rubber, and copper, vital for the Soviet economy.
- Food: Over 4 million tons of food, including meat, sugar, wheat, and canned goods, were supplied.
- Oil and materials: Lend-Lease also supplied essential resources like oil, rubber, and copper, crucial for the Soviet war effort.
5. Weapons and Ammunition:
- Lend-Lease supplies: The USA provided small arms, ammunition, artillery, and mines, but most artillery and small arms were produced by the Soviet Union.
- Between 1941 and 1945, the USSR produced over 100,000 artillery pieces and more than 10 billion rounds of small arms ammunition, significantly exceeding Lend-Lease supplies.
Comparison:
- While Lend-Lease was important, especially in the early years, it made up a small portion of the armaments and equipment produced by the USSR. The Soviet Union used its industrial capacity to produce most of the war materials.
- The production of tanks and aircraft in the Soviet Union far exceeded Lend-Lease supplies.
- The supply of vehicles and trucks, however, was crucial for improving logistics and transportation to the front.
In conclusion, Lend-Lease played an important role, but the Soviet Union's mass production and industrial mobilization were the main contributors to the success in the war.
During World War II, the Soviet Union relied on both internal resources and foreign assistance to produce weapons. While the majority of critical resources came from within the USSR, Lend-Lease provided essential support in areas where the Soviet Union faced shortages. Below is a summary of the resources delivered through Lend-Lease, their volumes, and their proportion compared to Soviet domestic production.
1. Oil and Petroleum Products
- Lend-Lease Deliveries: The United States and the United Kingdom supplied the Soviet Union with approximately 2.5 million tons of oil and 3.5 million tons of petroleum products.
- Soviet Production: The Soviet Union produced about 150 million tons of oil between 1941-1945, covering most of its wartime needs.
- Percentage of Soviet Production: Lend-Lease supplies accounted for about 1.5% of the total oil production in the USSR. Although Lend-Lease was important for fueling the military, especially in the early years of the war, the Soviet Union largely supplied its own oil.
2. Metals
- Lend-Lease Deliveries: The US provided about 1.2 million tons of strategic metals, including aluminum, copper, lead, and tin.
- Soviet Production: The Soviet Union produced approximately 10 million tons of steel and more than 2 million tons of aluminum during the war.
- Percentage of Soviet Production: Lend-Lease supplies accounted for less than 5% of total metal production in the USSR. Despite this, these metals were critical for aircraft and tank production.
3. Weapons and Ammunition
- Lend-Lease Deliveries: The United States sent various types of weapons, including small arms, artillery, ammunition, and mines, but most Soviet weapons were produced domestically.
- Soviet Production: The Soviet Union produced over 100,000 artillery pieces and billions of rounds of small arms ammunition during the war.
- Percentage of Soviet Production: Lend-Lease supplies made up a small proportion of the total Soviet weapon production. However, these supplies strengthened the Soviet army, especially in the early stages of the war.
Summary:
Lend-Lease was vital in supplying the Soviet Union with necessary resources and equipment during World War II, especially in areas where Soviet production faced challenges. However, the majority of critical resources, such as oil, metals, and weapons, came from domestic production. Lend-Lease accounted for a significant portion of some materials, such as vehicles and food, but overall, it made up a smaller percentage of total wartime production in the USSR.
In terms of vehicles, Lend-Lease made up 36% of total Soviet production, while aircraft accounted for 13%. Lend-Lease provided around 1.5% of the total oil production and less than 5% of metal production. Despite these contributions, the Soviet Union largely relied on its own resources to produce weapons and support the war effort.
"some of the tanks were unenviable" looks at the number drop from 2k to 750. lol
A factor not mentioned is the mid October panic in Moscow when law and order broke down
rail stations were full of people desperate to get away with trains taken by storm , stores ransacked , party cards thrown away in the street and administration burning their files
the Germans were sure to have been informed of this by friendly embassies and made them think it would be easy
In fact , Stalin nominated the commissar Artemei to re-establish order which was done in a few days with great brutality
that influenced Stalin not to leave the city , the General were told to keep their lines , or else !
Amazing video!
You didnt even finish watching the video
you watched a 20min video in 54 seconds?
@@russram210bro it’s armchair historian we already know it’s gonna be amazing
@@russram210 correct :)
@@DavidNaval Exactly and I was right
Stalin”this is where we fight! This is where they die!”
14:46 actual chills
Lmao
Can't believe it took you 8 years to make this
Can't believe RUclips hid this for me for 8 hours
Battle for Moscow happened in 1941, but why you made all Soviets in your video wear 1943 uniform?
Probably to save time on new sprites
@@swatcccp4673 But they already used proper 1941 uniform in 2022-2023 projects about Soviets in WW2
@dachavanderlinovo413 no idea then. Perhaps time constraints then
@@swatcccp4673 lame excuses, if he has them already there is no point. also there are many other errors.
the germans tanks shown arent the correct one, neither are the soviet
@dachavanderlinovo413 oh my god🙄. What a small and insignificant detail. Go touch some grass buddy
Your videos continue to amaze me in content and animation! Keep it up!
0:57 hey wait a second
Who ARE YOU?
Exactly what I was about to say. Moscow? Western front? You sure about that? 😂
@@KornPop96 for USSR that was the western front
Armhcair Historian I really enjoy your videos and for a young and new historian like myself I like to absorb as much info as I can especially when it comes to my favourite conflict WW2 I have seen your videos on Poland in WW2 but I feel like it is an extremely underrated and undercovered topic so I hope one day you will do some more videos as the topic is quite interesting thanks for the work you do and have a good day
pls cover the philippine-american war and it's opening battle (either the shooting at at Sta. Mesa, Battle of Manila Bay, or Mock Battle of Manila)
This is so incredibly well done. Awesome video
12:50 whats the name of that awesome background music, it rocks! If anyone know please tell me
Welllll
It's Extraction by Christoffer Moe Ditlevsen
@@talhasial5502 thank you friend that's what I was looking for you are the best!
@@Δούρειος_96 cheers!
7:03 love the Axis and Allies pieces ❤
Finally with the now updated videos of Stalingrad, Leningrad, and now Battle of Moscow. The Soviet Union WW2 Battle trilogy is now complete.
Gotta add Kursk on top, my man.
@@ElBandito we got that video about the Battle of Kursk from the Aerial perspective but that's not the same.
Wallpaper worthy thumbnail no cap
Sane people: how do we protect everything?
Stalin: just defend everything bruh
can you do a vid about Bulgaria please?
glorious video
4:50 oh ho, hang on a second there bud. Is that an MG42 in 1941?
6:52 damn, 1941 warplanners were already using Panther figurines.
What’s the point of this comment ?
This channel is just for entertainment, it has no historical value
@@kyrios443 To make others aware of historical inconsistencies.
Awesome video thanks
Armchair historian, with all due respect do not spread misinformation. The myth of the "Siberian divisions" was made by the germans which used to say "the Siberians are coming!". In reality, only 14 divisions were called west during August to October 1941, Of these 14 divisions, two were small mountain cavalry divisions from Central Asia, while the three tank and mechanised divisions were very new and had very little (if anything) to do with Siberian personnel. The 58th and 60th tank divisions had only started forming in March-April 1941. Of the rifle divisions, three arrived in August and September and were sent to 11th Army defending the southern approaches to Leningrad or 7th Army defending the far north against the Finns. Only six rifle divisions arrived in October and only four of these went to any Army that could be even remotely linked to defending Moscow against Army Group Centre. These were the 32nd, 93rd, 78th and 238th Rifle Divisions. Of these only the 32nd and 93rd Rifle Divisions had a significant proportion of Siberian personnel, while the 238th had only started forming in March 1941 in Central Asia. What of Siberian divisions formed after 22nd June 1941? There were six rifle divisions formed after June 1941 in the Siberia Military District. They were the 366th, 374th, 382nd, 372nd, 376th and 378th Rifle Divisions. All six divisions were assigned to the 59th Army in Volkhov Front defending south of Leningrad in November 1941. These were all brand new Divisions, their combat performance was average and they had nothing to do with the winter offensive against Army Group Centre.
Whichever way data is analysed, the whole Siberian transfer story is a myth in all respects: including timing, numbers, source of personnel and overall combat performance. Source: Soviet millatry documents, and this article: www.operationbarbarossa.net/the-siberian-divisions-and-the-battle-for-moscow-in-1941-42/
love the videos man
Amazing video on a topic thats almost never mentioned
Red Army also terribly lacked of supplies in that period as well, and also suffered from bad logistics as mud had effects on both sides. Especially even with such german-claimed ratio of losses and remnants of troops on both sides. In the video it is said that "for Soviet tanks it was easier", but in fact that was not much difference. If you read Soviet memories or watch video chronicles, there were hundreds of stuck in mud transports and tanks as well. "Technical" ability to overcome mud doesn't mean the actual mobility.
Moreover, even marshal Fedor von Bock when describing battle of Moscow admitted that the main reason of their failure was "underestimating of Soviet troops" and mud/logistics/frost was only one of the points. It was Manstein who after the war like a beaten boy wanted to portray everything as if "he fought like tiger but frost constrained him from winning". Every loss of Germans in their memoirs almost always had "objective reasons", while every their victory was "their personal skill and bravery"😂
Wake up Eva, armchair historian just posted a ww2 video
Man this video dropped perfectly with the eastern front books I just got into.
Just for clarification, there was no Judeo-Bolshevism in Europe in any meaningful way. There were about 15,000 Bolsheviks who were Jewish.
Yeah it's just an anti-semitic myth.
It was propaganda to influence the German people to be comfortable with genocide in Russia. They already influenced them to accept Jewish as sub-human.
Но были англо-советы, так в некоторых речах нацистские идеологии описывали союзников
А ещё были недолюди евреи и люди третьего сорта, народ рабов для Германии, то есть славяне
people talk about the great German generals. But they, A: didn't plan for winter, B: didn't plan for the pows, C: didn't plan for enough supplies. D: often had no intelligence of enemy formation they where facing.
They where one trick ponies that where fighting wars from a hundred years ago. They had mastered modern tactics, and had no concept of modern warfare.
А ещё проводить массовые казни пленных солдат, уничтожать деревни с жителями, а потом такие: бля, а че они не хотят сдаваться, Ганс мы что злодеи?
@@АнатолийШахов-ж5ц ну, в Беларуси немцев партизаны настреляли целую армию, не считая просто огромнейшего количества составов пущенных под откос. Жаль что этим немецким тварям после войны позволили иметь свое государство, это было ошибкой.
This guy probably didn't study history very well. He did not explain how Stalin, in a few weeks after the German invasion, was able to relocate about 2,000 factories from Ukraine and Belarus beyond the Urals. How many people, fuel and trucks were needed for this. After all, all these resources could and should have been directed to the front. Many thousands of trucks were seized from the army to commit this logistical horror. There is an opinion that even today no country in the world will be able to transport 2,000 factories over several thousand kilometers in a few weeks.
I'd argue that Stalin made the right move there though. It would have been a massive gamble to not move the factories. Imagine if that failed though, the Soviets would have lost literally everything with no possible way to continue a war.
@@flyingsquirrell6953 Yes, if the factories could not be moved, the USSR could most likely lose the war. It was only by 1943 that the USSR was able to fully heat all the factories at full capacity.
7:44 - "the city of eye-roll" 😂
Good one :)
Damn this is so interesting.
The Battle of Moscow stands as one of the most pivotal moments in World War II, showcasing the resilience of the Soviet forces against a seemingly unstoppable Wehrmacht. The Soviet winter counteroffensive was a masterclass in using weather, geography, and sheer determination to halt a major invasion. It’s remarkable how the Red Army managed to regroup so quickly after the initial shock of Operation Barbarossa. This battle truly marked the beginning of the end for the German advance in the East.
very cool👍
Best history channel...love from Greece 🇬🇷🙏
Skip to 2:05
Thank you
Mikhail Katukov was in charge of the 4th tank brigade… Future Marshal of the armoured troops of the Soviet Union…
Western front ?? 1:02
Ой да какая разница, все равно Рузвельт проиграл и застрелился в бункере, а флаг Франции гордо реял над Берлином (вы европейцы все на одно лицо)
Thank you, yet another great historical documentary video.
love your world war 2 stuff!
Who ever did your animations had the Soviet troops holding k98 Mausers for the parade portion. But great info. Loved it
HELL YEAH
A surprisingly "unknown" battle, considering the stakes and significance! Really interesting to see early war German and Soviet tech
One of the most important battles in the Second World War on which a lot depended
It was Stalingrad
@@grandcanyon-d4dno, it was Moscow. It demonstrated that germans had their limits too and more importantly they were already pushing them. Stalingrad is when it became really apparent.
@kindlingking if their laeder let his generals do their work, Europe might have fallen, including Russia and Britain, what if Japan attacked the lend leases? If Stalingrad had fallen, Germany would have had their way to so much oil for their war machines.
This battle was never mentioned in history class. I only heard about in past 10yrs. No movies are made about it either.
If your in America then you won't get the full story on ww2 unless you research yourself
High school history classes can’t cover topics in depth because they have too much time and ground to cover.
IMO they should focus less on wars and focus more on civics. Every American should read the Federalist papers and Antifederalist papers.
@@BalthasarGelt-x2d maybe the old America our new county is completely different
Battle of Manila 1945 please
One of the most deadliest and horrifying battles (before Stalingrad) during World War 2. Not just World War 2, but the whole human history. It's crazy to imagine how can a man do to one another.
The Sino Japanese War that was already going on was even more horrible.
@@ElBandito Especially Nanking. Evenmore horrifying that the Japanese wont accept WHAT they did
@@ElBanditoYup, it was. Although what i mention was a battle and not a campaign.
Marshal Zhukov actually said that Stalin's Chief Military Value was as a Military Economist. He credited him for the Russian's being able to throw huge numbers of soldiers into battle against the Nazi's.
Very interesting video! Cool animation!