What If? Operation Unthinkable

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  • Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024

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  • @TheArmchairHistorian
    @TheArmchairHistorian  4 часа назад +29

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  • @HildaGoneril
    @HildaGoneril 3 часа назад +88

    It suddenly became Operation Thinkable.

  • @jacobberg373
    @jacobberg373 4 часа назад +149

    Alternate History Hub was right, he's infected the rest of youtube with the genre, what has he done and how can we thank him?

    • @caesar5380
      @caesar5380 3 часа назад +1

      ?

    • @jacobberg373
      @jacobberg373 3 часа назад +13

      He once said in the previous video that he "brought the curse of Alternate History onto other RUclips History Channels"

    • @sirwannabeguy4886
      @sirwannabeguy4886 3 часа назад

      Wonder how it feels to be the Prometheus of a genre like that

  • @TC1YT
    @TC1YT 3 часа назад +31

    Soldier: YAY FINALLY WW2 IS OVER NO MORE SUFFERING
    Churchill:get ready guys we are going to invade the USSR

    • @3baxcb
      @3baxcb 3 часа назад +1

      Surrendered German Soldier: Good luck with that, Winston.

  • @chaskafitzpatrick6577
    @chaskafitzpatrick6577 4 часа назад +48

    Truman : "War's over! Now there shall be peace!"
    Churchill and Stalin: "Yes... Peace"

    • @SlavicUnionGaming
      @SlavicUnionGaming 4 часа назад

      stalin wanted peace, churchill having paronia that the soviet union was out to get him

    • @marxel4444
      @marxel4444 3 часа назад

      Oversimpliefied reference?
      Nice

  • @ethanton7074
    @ethanton7074 3 часа назад +29

    It feels surreal that the same art style, channel, and good ol' voice are now teaching me alt history! Wow!

  • @compatriot852
    @compatriot852 3 часа назад +29

    It still has to be noted that the Soviets were already bogged down in several guerilla wars. Many of these groups also had knowledge of this operation. Assistance that unfortunately never arrived

    • @natekaufman1982
      @natekaufman1982 3 часа назад

      An invasion of the Soviet Union might not have been successful, would have cost potentially millions of Allied lives, and would have prevented Japan from surrendering in 1945. Preventing Japan from surrendering would cause an invasion of Kyushu, which would have killed over 1 million Japanese and close to 120 thousand Americans. Is the juice worth the squeeze?

  • @nadegesuarez-demmin5624
    @nadegesuarez-demmin5624 4 часа назад +38

    This would have been a intersting alternate history scenerio.

    • @Godzilla00X
      @Godzilla00X 3 часа назад +5

      Would make a solid fps or rts game premise

    • @DavidNaval
      @DavidNaval 3 часа назад

      @@Godzilla00Xyess, someone needs to make an RTS out of this

  • @figet1855
    @figet1855 4 часа назад +12

    An alt history "a suprise to be sure. But a welcome one" -some old guy

  • @DasKaiserManfred
    @DasKaiserManfred 3 часа назад +14

    Alternate History??? By the Armchair Historian!?!?? How generous

  • @joaoborges2167
    @joaoborges2167 3 часа назад +17

    Damn, Winston! Wtf is this? You really need to go to church and chill, jeez...

  • @kerkireos
    @kerkireos 4 часа назад +45

    Make "the what if?" a series please

    • @beetlebg3759
      @beetlebg3759 4 часа назад +2

      Agreed and approved.

    • @mightyx5441
      @mightyx5441 3 часа назад

      no, but it'll be good to see 2 per year

  • @bradleyheath9029
    @bradleyheath9029 4 часа назад +79

    Will we get a video on operation downfall aka the planned invasion of Japan in 1945?

  • @Trooper-d2t
    @Trooper-d2t 4 часа назад +21

    Considering we have an actual name (the Lost Generation) for the number of missing young people between the start of WW1 and the end of WW2, I'm really scared to think about the demographical changes globally from a third World War right before birth rates globally could recover, especially since this war would no doubt require more manpower on all sides combined than WWII.

  • @jkuhl2492
    @jkuhl2492 3 часа назад +6

    Imagine the poor Poles if this actually happened.
    "THIS IS THE FOURTH TIME IN 6 YEARS WE'VE BEEN INVADED. PLEASE. STOP."

  • @indianajones4321
    @indianajones4321 4 часа назад +9

    My guy is getting into alternate history now? Let’s goooo!

  • @arashhosseinizadeh3408
    @arashhosseinizadeh3408 4 часа назад +4

    I really like this. There’s not a lot of quality RUclips channels that do alternate history in this way

  • @ignoreme4627
    @ignoreme4627 4 часа назад +9

    It really is a thought if this operation really happened. Even if the UK and the other Allies attacked the Soviet Union, would the populous agree?

  • @FEDERAL465
    @FEDERAL465 4 часа назад +213

    "Operation Unthinkable" aka Churchill's last attempt to avoid getting his ass clapped by Clement Attley in the 1946 UK General Elections.

    • @FIVEBASKET
      @FIVEBASKET 4 часа назад +3

      Lol

    • @beetlebg3759
      @beetlebg3759 4 часа назад

      Churchill is a war criminal…

    • @ardvarkvv2718
      @ardvarkvv2718 4 часа назад

      It's a shame Clement let party politics bring him down which fucked the UK's socialist movements going forward

    • @bradenlu1168
      @bradenlu1168 3 часа назад +5

      Get out

    • @BradenLu-u5e
      @BradenLu-u5e 3 часа назад +4

      get out

  • @raihanxd6182
    @raihanxd6182 4 часа назад +12

    This is unthinkable....

    • @koinu2741
      @koinu2741 3 часа назад +1

      Say that again?

    • @JoaoPedro-ol7sl
      @JoaoPedro-ol7sl 3 часа назад

      ​@@koinu2741 "sir, the operation is unthinkable"

  • @Godzilla00X
    @Godzilla00X 3 часа назад +10

    What would happen if Britain attacked but the USA said "not what we signed up for, neutral" and began withdrawing from Europe?

    • @crumpetcommandos779
      @crumpetcommandos779 3 часа назад

      that wouldn't happen, by late 44 the americans were calling the shots

  • @kkkkuuuu1111
    @kkkkuuuu1111 3 часа назад +4

    This just shows that how important it was to remove churchill

  • @uria3679
    @uria3679 3 часа назад +4

    Who remembers when a lot of people believed that Russia had more soldiers than any nation had ammo

  • @O5._.
    @O5._. 3 часа назад +5

    Alternate history hub is spreading his sphere of influence lmao

  • @jokodihaynes419
    @jokodihaynes419 4 часа назад +12

    Former waffen SS volunteers fought in Korea and Indochina

  • @Narrowsplice
    @Narrowsplice 4 часа назад +3

    GLORIOUS

  • @r3b0rn_mike117
    @r3b0rn_mike117 3 часа назад +1

    Finally Griffin is diving off the deck into the depths of alternate history. My creative self is literally creaming itself fr 🎉

  • @compatriot852
    @compatriot852 3 часа назад +3

    16:20 Why wouldn't the Baltics be included in this? The Forest Brothers were promised support by the allies with their governments being in exile. Lithuania also would have had some serious concerns given the nuclear weapons used in Lithuania minor

    • @NotthefirstJnardmsadly
      @NotthefirstJnardmsadly 3 часа назад

      Probably because of the fact that, unlike the Polish and German governments, the Baltic ones were still in exile and also whether the plea from such minor nations mattered compared to Poland and Germany

  • @LucaVoidas-vh7vf
    @LucaVoidas-vh7vf 4 часа назад +6

    It would be cool a space race video.

  • @ColeQuinn-bn1pr
    @ColeQuinn-bn1pr 3 часа назад +4

    The War to start another war🪖

  • @larryalvares1369
    @larryalvares1369 4 часа назад +8

    You think you’ll do a video about Operation Armageddon, an idea by the Irish military to invade Northern Ireland due to The Troubles?

  • @flavius5722
    @flavius5722 3 часа назад +4

    There are so many mistakes in this video that I cant even mentioned all , especially mistake by omission
    1) The guerila forces in eastern Europe and the total hatred of eastern europeans for all that was soviet and comunist much higher than in the west , a Red Scare on steroids even before 1939
    4 milion allies troops in Europe
    US was untouched by the war except for Pearl Harbour
    US alone had produce 3 times or airplanes than the Soviets
    The obiective of operațional untinkable was to push the soviets back in their borders not to attack Moscow

  • @lucianoosorio5942
    @lucianoosorio5942 4 часа назад +8

    Theodore Roosevelt: I’m an American stud, and you’re the British Elmer Fudd! You should be ashamed of your military honor!
    Winston Churchill: I was saving the planet from an Axis of Darkness, while you were back home opening National Parks! Yes!

  • @MedjayofFaiyum
    @MedjayofFaiyum 3 часа назад +1

    Do a What if with Napoleon winning Waterloo, and actually conducting a successful campaign against the allies. I really want more What Ifs with Napoleon. What if Napoleon intervened in Spain rather than Russia? What if Napoleon's Marshalls were successful in Spain?

  • @balkaba3927
    @balkaba3927 3 часа назад +1

    2:16 DAMN, that goes so hard man

  • @lt.dashkov1079
    @lt.dashkov1079 3 часа назад

    Omg i love Alternate History omg if this was an actual series you made making it sound like it happend and animated I would die happy! Please make more of these alternate history plans!

  • @rowancallaghan4972
    @rowancallaghan4972 3 часа назад +2

    1 hour squad! Or 20 min too

  • @polsenOO7
    @polsenOO7 4 часа назад +2

    Early crowd where y'all at?

  • @matthewthedemonangle5902
    @matthewthedemonangle5902 3 часа назад +1

    So, if Scenario B were to happen, would Operation Downfall go through? Or would the US wait till they had nukes 3 and 4? I wanna see a video about that

  • @Brittle475
    @Brittle475 3 часа назад +1

    it suddenly became operation delectable

  • @ethanton7074
    @ethanton7074 3 часа назад +1

    I hope that these scenarios maintain the same quality, or perhaps surpass the Alt history giants in realism and entertainment!

  • @marxel4444
    @marxel4444 3 часа назад

    Imagine having fought against the allies and soviets for years just for the allies to show up (Probaly Patton) and go
    "Well! Sorry guys! We fought the wrong enemy! How about we show them soviets what for together? :D"

  • @ElMo-dv3cj
    @ElMo-dv3cj 4 часа назад +5

    Amazing as ever

  • @AmiruSuraweera
    @AmiruSuraweera 4 часа назад +1

    Dammm arm chair historian being lit as usual ❤

  • @Mollywinelover
    @Mollywinelover 3 часа назад

    I think option 2 would have been the most likely, except 1 bomb on each war. If they planned them to hit on the same day, the effect would be much the same. The threat of more landing would have both willing to talk favorable terms to the allies.

  • @alexmiguelsanchez2801
    @alexmiguelsanchez2801 3 часа назад

    This deserves its own series.

  • @luismdgr
    @luismdgr 3 часа назад

    I love the new alt history content. Also the videos comparing 1944 American and German squads and stimulating combat between them

  • @ppszthunder
    @ppszthunder 3 часа назад +1

    This enraged adolfs father who punished him severely.

  • @koinu2741
    @koinu2741 4 часа назад +2

    YO PEAK GOT UPLOADED

  • @cactusking4045
    @cactusking4045 3 часа назад +2

    Alternate history! :D

  • @arcofspira
    @arcofspira 4 часа назад +2

    Proud to be this early to sit on the armchair

  • @ShadowReaper-pu2hx
    @ShadowReaper-pu2hx 3 часа назад

    The Armchair Historian’s _What If?_ is quite the competitor for Marvel.

  • @noobepro_7146
    @noobepro_7146 4 часа назад +1

    It would be unthinkable for both side

  • @adamcheklat7387
    @adamcheklat7387 3 часа назад

    14:07: “Increase speed, drop down and reverse direction!”

  • @archimedesfromteamfortress2
    @archimedesfromteamfortress2 3 часа назад

    "Okay, we need a name for the operation to invade and betray the Soviet Union"
    "But sir, we fought together with them for so long now, this plan is unthinkable!"
    ""Unthinkable", I like it! "

  • @MYONC1801
    @MYONC1801 4 часа назад +1

    Love the video

  • @retromus4178
    @retromus4178 4 часа назад +1

    Great topic

  • @mr_reynard2841
    @mr_reynard2841 3 часа назад

    My reaction to this video, as a german person living in the former Russian-occupied area of Germany:
    "Oh god, oh no. Thats gonna leave a lot of double-ruined cities"

  • @Pheonix-gb6qu
    @Pheonix-gb6qu 3 часа назад +1

    1971 indo-pakistan war (Ussr sent nuclear submarines to the US pacific coast)

  • @alex4863
    @alex4863 3 часа назад

    A what if on Soviet Union stabilizing itself in Afghanistan would be nice, the possibility of War on Terror being avoided would be a good spin.

  • @Klockorino
    @Klockorino 3 часа назад

    >Operation Unthinkable
    >im thinking about it

  • @RevolutionaryGoose
    @RevolutionaryGoose 3 часа назад +1

    Please make a video about the battle for Budapest

  • @seddybear
    @seddybear 3 часа назад

    would love to have a battlefield game set in a alternate 1945 centered around operation unthinkable.

  • @JacekWasyl
    @JacekWasyl 3 часа назад

    It will good to see about Operation Downfall in Pacific War.

  • @kwanlinus6999
    @kwanlinus6999 3 часа назад

    The Third Scenario was the one predicted in 1984.

  • @yannickplays
    @yannickplays 3 часа назад

    dude took a step in cody's territory LMAO

  • @Jameswebbtelescope7484
    @Jameswebbtelescope7484 3 часа назад

    I like this method you’re doing. Can you do more what if videos?

  • @mabussubam512
    @mabussubam512 3 часа назад

    14:17 - 15:37
    No, no and no. What do you think the people that inhabited these areas has to say to that? The people from these nations would arise against this terror attack.
    To make speculated devastating attacks, you have to hit Mosco or Leningrad or actually strategic places that are only within the USSR and not the areas that were re-captured by USSR.
    This is just insane to even think that the already oppressed nations would happily give consent or celebrate to be destroyed.
    I wonder what the western area would have a say about that. Most of the allies would likely just disassemble because they don't want to be part of mass-genocide this scale.

  • @nakitaluckysibih5581
    @nakitaluckysibih5581 3 часа назад

    Russia then: *conquers Eastern Europe & Germany*
    Russia now: Oh No. I CaN'T rEtAkE kUrSk fRoM uKrAiNiAns

  • @jokodihaynes419
    @jokodihaynes419 4 часа назад +5

    When the allies realized who was the real enemy after the war which was communism who do you think had the last laugh in the end?

    • @guerra467
      @guerra467 3 часа назад +5

      Ah, yes, Communism is worse than Nazis. If you want to act like a clown, at least wear the appropriate makeup.

    • @LtGhost-tb3kq
      @LtGhost-tb3kq 3 часа назад

      @@guerra467 I mean, it is. One killed hundreds of millions of more people and has done much much worse to the world than Nazism ever did.

    • @Herra_X
      @Herra_X 3 часа назад

      @@guerra467 Well it is. Communism has killed over 100 million people so you cant change that fact. Seethe and cope commie.

  • @jokodihaynes419
    @jokodihaynes419 4 часа назад +8

    "We fought the wrong enemy"-Geogre S Patton

  • @Rex-s3y
    @Rex-s3y 4 часа назад +1

    Happy job on 2mil!!!!!!! been here since 1mil.

  • @taroble
    @taroble 3 часа назад

    Make this a series please

  • @Orgyfan6
    @Orgyfan6 3 часа назад +1

    This is far too optimistic for the allies. The soviets had a massive superiority in in troops, tanks. artillery and so on.

    • @thegrandnope7143
      @thegrandnope7143 3 часа назад

      Not really, by the end point of the war, the Soviets were crippled, exhausted from 4 years of constant fighting and heavy losses, their economy was essentially destroyed, its people of the verge of starvation and it's troops longed to go home, pile on the fact the soviet airforce leaned heavily upon lend leased high-octane fuel, the army also relied on lend leased trucks, boots, rations and materials to make high quality explosives and would be subjected to a strangulation via blockade, I can see Operation Unthinkable succeeding and the Soviet Union actually collapsing.

    • @markolysynchuk5264
      @markolysynchuk5264 3 часа назад

      ​@@thegrandnope7143 Allies also had total air superiority and were able to hit targets far behind the Soviet lines thus crippling Soviet war effory

  • @CMDRScotty
    @CMDRScotty 3 часа назад

    I think you understand the ability of the P51D Mustang to dominate the skies over Russia.

  • @smileonpvp9228
    @smileonpvp9228 3 часа назад +3

    Nice vid

  • @AsherDeal
    @AsherDeal 4 часа назад +3

    🔥

  • @Prof-Anax
    @Prof-Anax 4 часа назад +2

    This still remains one of the most unthinkable operations of all time

    • @SlavicUnionGaming
      @SlavicUnionGaming 4 часа назад

      only a war monger named churchill would come up with it

  • @Noidentity012
    @Noidentity012 3 часа назад

    My favorite alternate history scenario.

  • @paulvonlettow-vorbeck4302
    @paulvonlettow-vorbeck4302 3 часа назад

    I would love to see more what ifs. But no more of those than the real history videos

  • @Korben-c5x
    @Korben-c5x 3 часа назад +1

    Bruh they can’t do that to the Soviets 💀

  • @agorriazfan3238
    @agorriazfan3238 3 часа назад

    I love that you guys are doing alt-history.

  • @questionmark05
    @questionmark05 3 часа назад

    It would take a long time to rebuild French, Danish, Norwegian, Dutch, Austrian, and Belgium's forces to anywhere near the capable of facing an enemy. Let alone the soviet juggernaut of post ww2. Allied tanks were having trouble against german armour, soviet armour had experienced even more rapid improvement over german on the eastern front. The allies had the naval and strategic bombing forces hands down. But would have struggled in a ground war. Yes, the soviets needed material aid in the war especially after having to relocate or scorch their own manufacturing bases. But they were now scourering the conquerored territory for strategic rescources and had established their own manufacturing base well into their own territory. Soviet infantry had more automatic weaponry and had plenty of artillery of all calibres and decent close air support, although the western allies would have been able to severely hamper that. The newer tank designs might have helped, but by may 45 only a couple hundred pershings and a dozen centurion tanks and againts IS2s and 3s.

  • @diablohernandez6040
    @diablohernandez6040 4 часа назад +2

    Umm did alt history hub make you do this?

  • @starmaninthegrave485
    @starmaninthegrave485 4 часа назад +2

    Uh oh, pivot to alt history

  • @DP-rt3ph
    @DP-rt3ph 3 часа назад +1

    This “what if” questions are a reason why I’ve stopped watching kurzgesagt couple of years ago. They moved away from scientifically proven topics to purely theoretical what ifs and thats very repulsive to watch. Please don’t turn this channel into that.

  • @laurenced2916
    @laurenced2916 3 часа назад +1

    What if the moon landings actually happened?

  • @Ragged_Armour05
    @Ragged_Armour05 3 часа назад

    You should make a "what if"where the modern day United States invade the Russian Federation, document and predict how such a war would progress and keep in mind the Russian's nukes cant even launch from their firing points so dont include nucleae warfare

  • @danishballofficiel2176
    @danishballofficiel2176 4 часа назад +2

    Denmark in ww2 Plz

  • @poulosegeorge4585
    @poulosegeorge4585 3 часа назад

    Just wow 😲

  • @welcometovorkuta
    @welcometovorkuta 3 часа назад

    the second option was most likely.

  • @TheFingerman77
    @TheFingerman77 4 часа назад

    One minute team reporting in

  • @Jetfury-v2x
    @Jetfury-v2x 3 часа назад

    Armchair historian doing alt history what a time to alive

  • @capncake8837
    @capncake8837 3 часа назад

    Cool to see alt-history from this channel.

  • @German-gamer8.3
    @German-gamer8.3 4 часа назад +2

    Cool

  • @SanjaysharmaPillalamarri
    @SanjaysharmaPillalamarri 3 часа назад +1

    That bastrad Churchill was really a bastrad

  • @EternalMuscovite
    @EternalMuscovite 4 часа назад +1

    Man WW2 is soooo boring nowadays I honestly cant wait for the 3rd one

  • @helloimskip
    @helloimskip 4 часа назад

    This gonna be good

  • @videosmith419
    @videosmith419 3 часа назад

    Here before the tankie horde arrives

  • @Kingdom_Of_Terrestia
    @Kingdom_Of_Terrestia 3 часа назад

    YAY UNDER 1 HOUR