American do-it-yourselfers use slightly different components, but your explanation was helpful and your delivery charming. There is uncommon wisdom in the words of the experienced tradesmen that we are rapidly losing from the field as they retire. Watching you at work, I think of the words of Thomas Edison: "I have friends in overalls whose friendship I would not swap for the favor of the kings of the world."
Not my remit LOL. Unless it's for my Mum, I don't do anything below DPC. Took me 3 days to lay 60 brick to raise her man hole level to the ground, 8ft deep now.
@@SkillBuilder When's good for you mate? We can have a natter about how the world is going down the pan whilst most of the population hide behind the sofa!
@@plumberparts I will talk to Dylan and work something out. Just don't send any tweets or years from now you will get chucked out of your cricket team.
In my area of the us we usually have 4” cast coming out of building a couple feet and goes into 6” clay. We just shove 4” as far in as possible and put a 6 CLx4 pvc fernco on it.
Had to do the exact same thing but on an internal soil stack in a downstairs WC, one joint of the clay pipe was indoors, the other was outside under a good 2ft of concrete and soil. Concrete inside the house was hard as anything dulled many chisel attachments on a Kango etc. No luck. Turned out however an offcut of clay pipe was left perpendicular across the top of the pipe, so I could get that out and it left enough pipe not in concrete to attach the rubber coupler onto. All very lucky and it all went perfectly to plan afterwards, just very nerve-racking haha
Taylor I feel for you there. I have had some clay pipes going under the house in concrete and on one I had to go for an internal fitting. I found one with a thin lip and I smoothed it out with some car body filler and just hoped the momentum from the stack would push it over the tiny lip. 20 years later it seems to be O.K but it isn't what you want.
Love to see a video on what you think should comprise an essential toolkit for any household's general needs (preferably with brand recommendations). Aimed at DIYers obviously so maybe not for your pro/trade audience.
I was so nervous about fitting my new draining when I built my extension, but in the end it was quite an enjoyable piece of the project. Couldn't get on with that chamber tool though - ended up going round it with a grinder on an angle
Nice work. Would recommend banded coupling instead(fermco with band around body) for improved strength. When I dig, I install the best thing possible so I need not dig again.
Yes that it the idea. It is not over long but it does the job. There are hundreds of thousands of them buried. I surround all my drain work in pea shingle to reduce the stress of ground movement
If you are afraid you can break the clay pipe when chiselling cement off the outer wall of the pipe you can still use a fitting going inside the clay pipe wit a rubber like toilet pan connector one and connect plastic pipe to the other pushfit pipe. Of course this will reduce a bit the inner diameter of the pipe.
I have a hard to reach (under deck) 6" female (hub) clay pipe to a regular clay pipe about 3' apart at a slight angle. How to connect PVC to the hub clay as cutting the end off would be a ton of work. I thought I'd glue a piece of clay into the hub and connect to other end with the sleeves and PVC--if I can get the correct angle. What do you think?
Hi there, so today I had very similar size pipe replaced with pvc exactly as you have done. However builder did not use any gravel to fill around the pipe. When I asked he said it was not necessary to do so? But all the videos I have watched everyone uses them. Is he right or should I challenge him to come back and redo it? Thanks
Good luck getting him back. The building regulations say it should have granular material around it and pea shingle is best because it will flow to fill any voids if the ground sinks under the drain. It also protects the pipe from imposed loads. In a lot of situations the pipe will survive but just surround it with 'as dug material' is not approved.
use an angle grinder and tickle it away. There are fittings that push inside but you get a lip. I have done it and tapered the joint at the bottom with 2 pack body filler
There is a strange phenomenon in filming where the scene can look back to front as you move the camera from one view to another. It is called 'Crossing the Line' and was something to be avoided because it confused the audience. I think you may be seeing it the wrong way around. Unusually the surface water and foul drains run along the backs of the houses not the street.
I hate to be 'that guy' but, that should have been a 45° bend in and out of that chamber instead of a 90° in, the little wiggle with the slight bends isn't really upto the standard I would have expected from you chaps after watching your other vids and last but not least the other pipe dropping in the top should have gone into a Y junction instead of a T in order to aid the flow, otherwise with it dropping straight in like that it can wash back up the pipe slightly, causing the main run to slow down and back up, reducing the flushing effect needed to keep any debris from settling and creating a blockage. One more thing (yes, Columbo?) You should slice the shingle under the pipe with a shovel to really pack it in.
4 inch clay drainage to 110mm plastic. You can get the connectors at any merchants. If you cut the pipe and it is a different size just swap the fitting.
Looking at Ofwat’s wording it looks I like you can use thermoplastic pipes for gravity feed sewer as I’m looking at a build over in Thames water area and they love Clay pipes but ofwats text reads. as of the 1 of April 2020 it reads. We are therefore giving notice that the above mentioned sentence has been removed and paragraph E2.21.1 now reads as follows: ‘Thermoplastics pipes, joints and fittings for gravity sewers shall comply with the relevant provisions of BS EN 1401-1 (PVC-U), BS EN 1852-1 (PP), or BS EN 12666-1 (PE) as appropriate.’ Companies have raised no objections and have informed customers about the intention to delete the sentence. We have not been informed of any stakeholder objections to the removal of the sentence.
That is really interesting and useful to know. I wish it had been the case a few years ago when I was messing around with Supesleeve. I would much rather one 6 metre length of plastic than all those joins.
@@SkillBuilder update from Thames water is they still won’t allow it if it connects to an existing sewer but they allow the plastic inspection chambers 🤷🏾♂️
Only problems I find with rainwater connected to sewers is The local water company don’t like it. And There has to be gulleys at the bottom of each down pipe or the gutters act like vent pipes from the sewer and stink in the summer.
@@johnclements6614 Sewer is the word for a public drain. Drains can be foul, storm or combined. New drains must be separate foul and storm. Drains flow into sewers, where they become the utility company's liability
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American do-it-yourselfers use slightly different components, but your explanation was helpful and your delivery charming. There is uncommon wisdom in the words of the experienced tradesmen that we are rapidly losing from the field as they retire. Watching you at work, I think of the words of Thomas Edison: "I have friends in overalls whose friendship I would not swap for the favor of the kings of the world."
Never thought a video on pipes would be so interesting! Lots of "I didn't know that" moments.
Good bit of storm water drainage lads! Reminds me of the good old days..........Cheers
Roger with old school PPE, "What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger",
Great video!
"Where's James?"
_* head pops out sewer pipe *_
"Hello mate"
Excellent presentation and explanation! Many thanks!
Could watch drains all day!!! Love this
Roger in the trenches again.💪 That Stihl saw is an absolute beauty.🤩 Great job boys.
He has a fiver with. Good luck, "Rodger in the trenches," written on it.
@@johnbrown-so3vz 😝
Great video guys !!!!
Thanks so much!
Thought I was watching a drainage vid, but no, it's Roger lubing his ring. Now that's a different channel all together.
Don't ever attempt to do it without the lube, it will end in tears.
@@SkillBuilder Bite the pillow - i'm going in dry lol
There must be an entry in Rogers Profanisaurus for something like "Lubing an old clay pipe". Place your definitions below!
God's own water.
God bless you my son.
❤️
cracking video again .... keep em coming
I am glad you scripted the temporary blocks to avoid a stir. Another interesting video 👍
Yes our cameraman spotted it and said "You better say it before the wise guys do".
Always learning thanks fellas .
OH THE FLIPPIN’ JOY of doing this sort of work! 😂 Hope you’re well Roger and team! ❤️
Hello James. Time we had a catchup in your local pub.
Not my remit LOL. Unless it's for my Mum, I don't do anything below DPC. Took me 3 days to lay 60 brick to raise her man hole level to the ground, 8ft deep now.
@@SkillBuilder When's good for you mate? We can have a natter about how the world is going down the pan whilst most of the population hide behind the sofa!
that looks like very "draining" work.🤔😆
@@plumberparts I will talk to Dylan and work something out. Just don't send any tweets or years from now you will get chucked out of your cricket team.
Nice job! Top work as always!
Nice little pie chamfering tool. Much easier (and ore consistent) than doing it by hand. Going on the list.
brilliant vid guys
Just done this job for the first time today,, why didn’t this get up loaded yesterday haha.
As someone that's just discovered my soil pipe to drainage connection has essentially crumbled into a 100 pieces, this video is just what I needed!
Glad it helped!
In my area of the us we usually have 4” cast coming out of building a couple feet and goes into 6” clay. We just shove 4” as far in as possible and put a 6 CLx4 pvc fernco on it.
Had to do the exact same thing but on an internal soil stack in a downstairs WC, one joint of the clay pipe was indoors, the other was outside under a good 2ft of concrete and soil. Concrete inside the house was hard as anything dulled many chisel attachments on a Kango etc. No luck.
Turned out however an offcut of clay pipe was left perpendicular across the top of the pipe, so I could get that out and it left enough pipe not in concrete to attach the rubber coupler onto.
All very lucky and it all went perfectly to plan afterwards, just very nerve-racking haha
Taylor
I feel for you there. I have had some clay pipes going under the house in concrete and on one I had to go for an internal fitting. I found one with a thin lip and I smoothed it out with some car body filler and just hoped the momentum from the stack would push it over the tiny lip. 20 years later it seems to be O.K but it isn't what you want.
Love to see a video on what you think should comprise an essential toolkit for any household's general needs (preferably with brand recommendations). Aimed at DIYers obviously so maybe not for your pro/trade audience.
Buy what you need when you need it! You can never judge what you need until its gone wrong! You will also loose that widget to a "safe place" :)
Can’t beat a bit of drainage 😁🧱👍🏼
Love it. When I did my City and Guilds I got a distinction in drainage. Mind you that was caulking cast iron with lead.
@@SkillBuilder 🤣👌🏼🧱👍🏽
Good work there lads but get yourself a hex bit for the impact for them jubilee clips 👍
Thanks, we have the hex bits but a screwdriver was the nearest thing to hand.
I was so nervous about fitting my new draining when I built my extension, but in the end it was quite an enjoyable piece of the project. Couldn't get on with that chamber tool though - ended up going round it with a grinder on an angle
You need silicone grease on the chamfer tool otherwise it grabs.
@@SkillBuilder Ah, never even occurred to me! Will try that next time
I have a t piece flange so i will need to cut a length of pipe to fit that before adding the pvc. I might need to concrete that in to stop it moving
Nice to see Rodger back in the ditch. Was half expecting James to pop out of the ground pipe and say "hello mate"👍👍.
awesome
Nice work. Would recommend banded coupling instead(fermco with band around body) for improved strength. When I dig, I install the best thing possible so I need not dig again.
There is also a product called Maxadapter that could connect clay to PVC
If you're having drainage problems I feel bad for you son
I got ninety-nine problems but a ditch ain't one
Evening boys
Roger, if you get a chance. Can you give some info on french drains on victorian basement flats. Or any below dpc drainage issues.
I am planning on doing that one soon
@@SkillBuilder You are a diamond sir. Maybe I will send you some vids or photos your way. Dunno how, gimme a clue.
Back in the 80s I was in a band named ‘clay pipe’
What were you smoking?
@@SkillBuilder surely opium.
@@SkillBuilder yeah! Haha
A four inch grinder without the guard is a very handy for this job. I cut what I can with the twelve but usually very awkward to access.
Thanks for the video. What type of coupling grease or sealant (stuff in the tube) are you using and what is it's purpose? Easier to fit? Better seal?
I have the same question and I would like the purpose of that material 👍
what is that aggregate he's using at the end?
What a great product flexseals are. Saved the day many times for me.
ahhh Roger you cant beat the smell of the petrol from the cutter...LOL how you must miss it.....
Any idea where to find one of the 4” pipe edger used on the cordless drill in the video?
www.keahproducts.co.uk/keah-pipe-chamfer-tool
Where can I find a Fernco coupling to fit a 12 inch clay pipe? I need one really badly to fix an old septic.
How long is that rubber connector/adaptor good for?
Can I bury it under a concrete slab and forget about it, especially if used for a foul water?
Yes that it the idea. It is not over long but it does the job. There are hundreds of thousands of them buried. I surround all my drain work in pea shingle to reduce the stress of ground movement
@@SkillBuilder -Thanks!
I reckon we missed James saying "where's Roger" on this one.
That is jumping the shark
If you are afraid you can break the clay pipe when chiselling cement off the outer wall of the pipe you can still use a fitting going inside the clay pipe wit a rubber like toilet pan connector one and connect plastic pipe to the other pushfit pipe. Of course this will reduce a bit the inner diameter of the pipe.
If all else fails that is an option but it does create a lip and that can cause blockages. Go with the flow.
what is a "lean mix"?
Not very much cement in the mix. Say 8 to 1 ratio of ballast to cement
@@SkillBuilder thanks
I have a hard to reach (under deck) 6" female (hub) clay pipe to a regular clay pipe about 3' apart at a slight angle. How to connect PVC to the hub clay as cutting the end off would be a ton of work. I thought I'd glue a piece of clay into the hub and connect to other end with the sleeves and PVC--if I can get the correct angle.
What do you think?
Is this any type of silicone you put on the pipe or just lubricant..
Thx
Can someone please tell me wich kind of rocks are? And why they put it there? Thank you
Which type coupling we can use for 800 mm clay pipes to 800 mm Grp pipes?
Hi there, so today I had very similar size pipe replaced with pvc exactly as you have done. However builder did not use any gravel to fill around the pipe. When I asked he said it was not necessary to do so? But all the videos I have watched everyone uses them. Is he right or should I challenge him to come back and redo it? Thanks
Good luck getting him back. The building regulations say it should have granular material around it and pea shingle is best because it will flow to fill any voids if the ground sinks under the drain. It also protects the pipe from imposed loads.
In a lot of situations the pipe will survive but just surround it with 'as dug material' is not approved.
A man killed himself next to a drain
It was sewer-side
What do you do if you can't get the concrete around the drain off?
use an angle grinder and tickle it away. There are fittings that push inside but you get a lip. I have done it and tapered the joint at the bottom with 2 pack body filler
@@SkillBuilder Thanks 👍🏻
correct me if I am wrong but did you put that mini chamber in backwards? It was the fence line running out to street at start of vid?
There is a strange phenomenon in filming where the scene can look back to front as you move the camera from one view to another. It is called 'Crossing the Line' and was something to be avoided because it confused the audience. I think you may be seeing it the wrong way around. Unusually the surface water and foul drains run along the backs of the houses not the street.
I hate to be 'that guy' but, that should have been a 45° bend in and out of that chamber instead of a 90° in, the little wiggle with the slight bends isn't really upto the standard I would have expected from you chaps after watching your other vids and last but not least the other pipe dropping in the top should have gone into a Y junction instead of a T in order to aid the flow, otherwise with it dropping straight in like that it can wash back up the pipe slightly, causing the main run to slow down and back up, reducing the flushing effect needed to keep any debris from settling and creating a blockage.
One more thing (yes, Columbo?) You should slice the shingle under the pipe with a shovel to really pack it in.
Have you got James operating the camera now? Get him on the editing soon.
He can do anything he turns his mind to, I have seen that.
@@SkillBuilder excellent. I'd love to see him in a ballet.
What size is your clay pipe please, are they 5inch or 6 inch
What are the sizes of the pipes please or name of them so i can order same peice so sort mine
4 inch clay drainage to 110mm plastic. You can get the connectors at any merchants. If you cut the pipe and it is a different size just swap the fitting.
Nice explained - but no music please
No music? You are joking.
Looking at Ofwat’s wording it looks I like you can use thermoplastic pipes for gravity feed sewer as I’m looking at a build over in Thames water area and they love Clay pipes but ofwats text reads.
as of the 1 of April 2020 it reads.
We are therefore giving notice that the above mentioned sentence has been removed and paragraph E2.21.1 now reads as follows:
‘Thermoplastics pipes, joints and fittings for gravity sewers shall comply with the relevant provisions of BS EN 1401-1 (PVC-U), BS EN 1852-1 (PP), or BS EN 12666-1 (PE) as appropriate.’
Companies have raised no objections and have informed customers about the intention to delete the sentence. We have not been informed of any stakeholder objections to the removal of the sentence.
That is really interesting and useful to know. I wish it had been the case a few years ago when I was messing around with Supesleeve.
I would much rather one 6 metre length of plastic than all those joins.
@@SkillBuilder update from Thames water is they still won’t allow it if it connects to an existing sewer but they allow the plastic inspection chambers 🤷🏾♂️
Stakker says, "It's rather good weather we're having. Could get some rendering done".
Say that and it will piss down
@@SkillBuilder Do some indoor rendering instead. Hahaha!
👍
Only problems I find with rainwater connected to sewers is The local water company don’t like it. And There has to be gulleys at the bottom of each down pipe or the gutters act like vent pipes from the sewer and stink in the summer.
I said 'sewer' but it is actually running to a surface water drain. This was just a re-route to avoid the extension.
@@SkillBuilder Surface water sewer.
@@johnclements6614 Sewer is the word for a public drain. Drains can be foul, storm or combined. New drains must be separate foul and storm. Drains flow into sewers, where they become the utility company's liability
yes where's JAMES
We can't do "Where's James" on a Monday, that way lies chaos.
Roger getting down and dirty. What's not to like.
Has anyone noticed that roger looks like a short haired version of nicole mcbain of iron maiden ?
Bradley Walsh looks different
Where’s James?
Friday's is Where's James day
Roger and his 4" ...😬
Yer ok, if your clay pipe is concrete filled chances are your going to damage it when you chisel the concrete around it
Yes that is the problem and the reason we tickle all but the last bit off with an angle grinder.
You are leaving your self open to so many shit jokes! But I think you know that 😝
When you have been in this game a while there are not many I haven't heard. It amuses me that people think they are the first to say it.
Sorta like a Roman Arch