Gully repair and clay drain pipe hook-up (Renovation Part 12)
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- You may remember from a few videos back, we have a slight problem with damp in this property. A LOT of damp, like puddles in the subfloor type damp. Turns out this old clay rainwater gully has been leaking inside the property for the last 20 years or so. Cowboy builders put the porch extension directly on top of it and obviously this cracked the clay soil pipe. In this video I’ll show you my approach to repairing a problem like this.
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For the avoidance of any doubt, it's 2021. 👍
It has been a long and weird path to 2021. I know last March was about 200days long.
Don’t ya just love watching someone dig holes...his neighbors are like he’s only recorded him self dig holes again 🔥🔫
I'm getting quite good at digging holes 👍🤣
You’d make a fabulous grave digger 🤣🤣🤣
lol I was about to type out a comedy sketch where one says to the other "what's the new neighbour like?" and the other says exactly that.
I've previously mourned that a fellow with your talents is doing ditch-digging, but I can see why you do it. You planned and marked the project and dug a perfectly rectangular hole, followed by a precisely dug ditch. You sorted all the fill into categories. You calculated the fall mathematically and used a clever level arrangement. You even considered future workmen who may need to work on that drain. The end result was neat and precise, just the way you want it. Had you hired others to do it, watching them would have raised your blood pressure. Having a touch of OCD is good thing for a builder!
Cheers Bob! I'm terrible with OCD and impatience. 🤣👍
This man's OCD speaks to me in volumes. I love it!
@@LEOH4WK He knows the difference between doing a job and doing it correctly.
Who would have thought a handyman is good at the laws of physics coupled with advanced mathematical knowledge. Most of the handyman cant work out their own wages.
@@Wild-Storm Andy is far more than a "handyman". He's a highly skilled craftsman who takes pride in his work. I've been impressed with the effort and care he gives to tasks that won't be visible.
Handyman: “I won’t show you installing the drains as it’s relatively straight forward”
Also Handyman: “Here’s 3 minutes of me digging a hole”
😂😂
You earned my membership fee for the month with the "that's what she said"
Ha ha thank you!! 👍👍😁
I thought the follow up text “ ...some hand digging just to expose the pipe” was possibly a missed opportunity for a repeat gag 😝
I love the way you do everything properly, Andy. Thank you for sharing. I feel so invested in this house reno of yours! 🙏🏻
16:30 This is when you discover next-door’s toilet is tapped into the ‘dead’ pipe! 😆
I liked how you slipped a bit of plastic between the halves of the cut pipe. I’ll have to remember that next time I do something like this.
I have no idea where the water, power or sewer lines run on my house but I could give a lecture about how they run in yours. So satisfying watching how clean and precise you work and the quality of your videos is fantastic. 👏👏👏😁
Nice job, as always if Andy does a job, he does it right!
Just want to say thank you for taking us along on your journey. Enjoying seeing all the steps involved in such a project! Good luck with the next challenge you find!
Very good, very thorough, very versatile. Very little stumps you. Thanks for sharing Andy, always a pleasure to watch your videos.
Plenty of typical building problems well diagnosed and sorted experience counts and it shows!
Great job! Cutting pipes is always a bit daunting - a moment of no return. Great tip with the level, must remember that! And yes, loved the 'said last night' gag. Never gets old. :)
Just found this video, I'll be going back thru the rest of your catalogue, great work. Thanks.
I am just seeing these videos and enjoying this play list immensely. For this video, I would have preferred to see more of the removal of the old drain and installation of the new drain and pipe and less trenching.
Learning about drainage for a patio project, clicked on your video, heard your voice, had dreaded flashbacks, It January the 29th 2016, 17 & 18, I'm scrabbling to get my self assessment complete, Andy Mac Drums to the rescue (again and again!), Once again helping me out with your excellent videos, I definitely owe you a pint!
Very thorough workman, not like the many cowboys around. Well done.
Lovely channel please keep it up I wish it could be much long per episodes it's very rare to find videos like this and mostly only 5 10mins each thanks so much keep it up
Amazing levels of competence , knowledge , skill and patience, ! Top stuff as always
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Cheers Martin! 👍
I am 100% certain that I would absolutely hate this job. Good on you!
Loving the videos!
I had to replace the water main at our first house which resulted in digging a big trench that would constantly fill with water, as the supply was shared with a neighbour and I didn't want to put them out until I had everything to fix it. I ended up having to bail it out with a bucket, as the £50 dirty-water pump from Amazon wouldn't start.
After seeing your water pump drill attachment I now know these exist and could have saved my self a lot of work.
Saving one for next time.
Thanks for all the videos!
When re-aligning a drain on my last property I used Denso Gas tape over the clips on the rubber coupler just in case I had to do any work on it again for the same reason that you mentioned.
It's great that you are able to do repair jobs like this in the UK. Here in NZ only registered drain layers are allowed to do drainage work. Another factor contributing to our spiralling house costs.
Very interesting to see different guidelines and rules in different countries. Here in Belgium, the recommended fall for pipes is a 1 to 2cm drop per m and pipes are usually put in a bed of what’s called “stabilisé” (roughly 2.5kg cement, 22.5kg sand and 1.9l of water if memory serves me right): it’s easy to level, sticks a bit and hardens out over time (like a very brittle concrete)
Yes. I've put in my own sewage treatment plant (UK) and my information was for a drop of between 60:1 and 110:1. A lot of people just use 100:1 as it's easy on the maths. 40:1 , as talked about here, I've never come across.
You remind me of myself always going to mighty rounds to leave it right. It's unreal the effort to cut the pipe then touch it with a hammer and it falls apart lol brilliant as always
Yeah, I was amazed with how easily it broke! 😬👍
I really hate digging but it's quite relaxing watch others.. 😁👍
Just found these vids. Excellent stuff and I subscribed. That's my Saturday night sorted as soon as I get the wine opened!
Thank you and welcome! 👍👍
Your comment about the original pipe being cracked because the porch had been laid on top of it is pretty appropriate right now. My house is an end of terrace and my next door neighbour is having an extension built on the back of his house. There is an inspection chamber about 12ft away from my kitchen back wall and their foul water sewer and those of the two houses the other side of him all feed into that inspection chamber. No problem so far. However, when the builders were digging out the trenches for the extension foundation they found that that foul water sewer is hidden underneath an elongated concrete dome, the top of which is only about 2 feet down. They got in the local water company and council officials to check it and they insisted that as the sewer and its concrete 'cover' is 60 years old it would need to be protected with an 'H' shaped (in plan view) steel girder box system supported on concrete piers to take the weight of the extension and the footings. It has cost our neighbours an additional £5k and put the programme of works back by 3 weeks. The steel girders weigh about three times as much as the extension!
I'd like to include a link to a photo I took but I don't think it can be done.
If it comes time to sell, all you will need to do is loan out copies of the filming and there will be no problem getting your asking price
Nice job, Stevie Wonder would be glad to see those marks in the concrete. You had to cover it up because of the weather.
You've dug so many trenches recently, next you'll be building a dugout and stringing up some barbed wire.
I was gutted about the marks - it was perfect! 🤣
awesome job, as always and for a temp fix you've put a lot into it, awesome vlog thanks for sharing buddy
Cheers Neil! 👍
Andy with your knowledge of groundwork I do "nt think you will ever starve . very good job Ged
Why is the sound of broom on wet concrete so satisfying?
Very interesting and informative, excellent tradesman a pleasure to see a job well done, many thanks
Great job Michael 👍
You're lucky with the depth of the pipe, here in Ontario, Canada the frostline can go between 1.0 meters to 1.8 meters and water pipes need to be deeper than the area frostline!
Same in the upper Mid-West US. Most lines are 7 to 8 foot (2.25M +) Gas, Water and Electric.
Another great vid thanks. I love your tutorials because you always do things properly and don't cut corners. Plenty of great tips, thank you, so here's one in return, although only a minor thing. @5.05 you start hand digging to expose the pipe. You could perhaps put a bucket in the hole to take the small amounts of dirt, and then put it in the barrow when the bucket is full to reduce the repetetive strain on your lumbar spine. It's a small point I admit but once you've damaged your back you get to see all the areas you might have prevented it from happening (hence the comment). Take care of your back mate, you've only got one of em. Great tips nonetheless, and if you want a bussman's holiday you're welcome at my house anytime... Just bring your work boots😉
Ha thank you and good idea with the bucket! 👍
@@GosforthHandyman Another tip I thought of when doing this sort of thing was to use a cheap soup ladle for scooping out the earth. It works surprisingly well compared to a small trowel and due to the handle you don't have to bend/reach as much.
... and the next day, the builders arrived with a mini digger, to dig the extension footings. :-)
Yeah, watch this space 👍🤣
Well done Andy for getting the bottom of the drains in line. This is classed as "Invert" level and is super important with Foul water. Generally, we also chamfer all the edges of pipes to ensure they go into their new fittings -- which has a greased seal. Not bad at all for someone who doesn't do drains.
Cheers bud! 👍
Is rainwater classed as foul water?
@@normanboyes4983 no, but foul water could end up going down this pipe 👍
You’ve done a great job there Andy. I’d have used an inspection chamber also.
Cheers, yeah saves a job later down the line too 👍
Oh you did an excellent job there buddy !!!
Cheers bud! 👍
Excellent work and thanks for the awesome content stay safe and take care
So much great work that will be dug up before too long but worth it to get the house dry.
Excellent work.
Hi...
I'm afraid that your installation will make angry my uncle Youssef. Indeed he always advised me Vociferously to put the electric cable above the water pipe. 🤣🤣
Best wishes from Morocco.
would have been the ideal time to put a small feeder drain from porch guttering
Ty for the video and all in the series from Teesside
You’d make a good archaeologist. Nice straight sections, methodical digging. Good hand work (that’s what she said)
So early it’s still 2020. 😀. Enjoying the reno vids 👍
Checked the comments to see who else caught that!! Great spot! Well done...think a lockdown is coming soon 😂
Yes, enjoy it. This is pre-lockdown. Oops! I must update my datestamp template. 🤣
It would have taken me 12 months to dig that trench so thought you did it to make me feel better.
very tidy job and you've give me some good tips
For moving clay and indeed digging it, a fork is often a lot easier than a spade, provided you have checked for cables.
The way you cut a clay pipe with a four inch grinder is to cut half way round pipe in 2 places cut out half channel then it's easier access to get straight cut . Just a little tip for the future.
After you made the first cut into that clay pipe with that little cutter, if you make another cut too the same depth on the unwanted part of the clay pipe and cut between the 2 as if your cutting a square out you can get your cutter to the bottom of the pipe from the top. i found out when i was doing the same thing with a little cutter.
Nice job that will make a great difference over time.
Defo - hoping the house starts to dry out now 👍
Excellent job - if only temporary
Andy you did make me laugh when cutting the pipe, I thought won't be long before he needs a mask lol. I can highly recommend the evolution chop saw. That would go through that like butter. Nice job with concrete. Had similar with office build and 35 one day m, so thought next day I'll get up 6am and do some more, got two mixes done and hacked down after that. Buggered my two loads, but that is good old English weather lol. It looked a ball ache but job well done. It feels good once drains are working right. Got to do gully of mine soon. Mines 120 years old. Thanks for the videos. From Bill
Cheers Bill! Yeah, can't plan for British weather 👍🤣
We have a shared gully in an 1930s house and apparently our neighbors said it had cracked. There seems no overflow anything like that. Can gully’s bring lines or does digging have settlement risks. Tough one!
This is your 2nd video that i have seen, thanks from a new subscriber
Lovely job
Another cracking video Andy,you never cease to amaze me with all your knowledge of different trades,I was lucky to be brought up in a family of tradesmen,plumbers joiners electricians brickies and myself a mechanical engineer,we all taught each other the basics of our own trades so we were all able to do all our own building and repair work which is sadly rare nowadays with the lack of apprenticeships but hopefully that will change,keep the videos coming,missing your tips videos but I know you have a lot on with the house,still don't see that GH baseball cap I sent you being worn but if your anything like me the biggest size my son does (56cm) is a wee bit tight on my head and I'm follically challenged like yourself, LOL only joking
Nice work!
I hope this resolves the damp issues for you ☺.
Clay and water sure make for a "fun" time. Been taking out some trees by hand and below ~1ft it's pretty clay here, not fun when it takes several days effort and it rains between them. Not only is it real slippy (fun when swinging that mattock) but you end up getting 1in heals and extra leg workout as well!
I can just imagine the roots! 👍😬
Wow. That is what I call " MANPOWER". Just using shovel to do the digging. Kudos.
Good job would have took me one day but I have been doing it for 40 years
Great job.
Great job Mate you are better than the pro's , Stay Safe !!!.
Would love to have seen the pipe joining process and fall calcs in more detail. Also i’ve never really done any concreting - still to many unknowns for me to be brave enough to attempt
IMO the easiest way of calculating fall is using per cent because that's exactly centimetres of height difference over one metre (100 cm). I've had recommendations for either two our four per cent fall on drains. Too little fall and water pools in the pipe, too much and the water isn't able to flush solids properly, they just get stuck and the water rushes past them. So apparently even barely any fall is better than too much, at least that's what I've been told.
Somehow I feel like I'm watching an episode of Time Team 😁
I felt like that when I found the 100 year old pipe! 👍🤣
I use denso tape on joints and metalwork, used extensively on oil rigs for connection protection and it works brilliantly.
Nice job though but I would have slung the old turf and replaced or seeded.
Good job and video again Andy 👍
Where you said the wall of the existing pipe was thicker than the new plastic pipe you can fit a stepped band seal which would help elevate the issue with different pipe wall thickness.
That's what I used but it's the internal diameter that's the problem. 👍
@@GosforthHandyman OK.I Like watching your progress on this project.Your videos are very informative and a great insight in how to overcome issues when stripping a property for renervation.
Bit like watching an episode of TimeTeam. Very enjoyable
Excellent what I was looking for got to replace a clay rain water pipe with plastic as I broke the old bell mouth clay trying to rod it going to install a plastic gully the attached with rubber flexible joint fantastic 👍
There's going to be some ditch digging for drain repair in my near future (in summer cos I'm not a daft sod ;) ) so it'd good to pick up some tips like attaching spacers to a level for an easy way to measure the fall 👍
All I'd say is, if it's clay do it before the ground dries out 👍 good luck!
Very methodical everything has been well thought out. Check your IC always better to use the lower channel for the main run and I know everyone likes band seals but rigid connector (DC9) in this case is a better connection. I’ve had problems with band seals dropping and forming lips that cause blockages.
Yeah, left the lower channel on purpose for the new main run from the extension. Bit extra fall too 👍
Very well done Andy Dave Canada
If only all the builders in this country took as much care and pride in their work as you do. Also clear up the stuff from a skip that was blown all over our garden from next door! 😡😡 All it would have taken was a tarp & a few bricks, but no. We had to clear it up. 🤬
Thank you! Rubbish left blowing about in the wind is a pet hate of mine too 🙄👍
Sound job mate! When digging a trench for any reason, and you don't have a pump to hand. It always pays to dig a sump hole at the lower end of the trench. Just enough to get a bucket in.
Found this video very informative and useful.
So glad I clicked on a plumbing video to watch someone dig a hole and skip all the plumbing. Also you seem to have created a big puddle at the side of the house that wasn't draining away.
Proper, thoughtful, excellent job as always.
Just would like your opinion on my situation:
I have fitted the soil pipe underneath of my toilet (ground floor, old house). The toilet is in the middle position, the kitchen sink and the foul water gully are at opposite sides.
In order to reduce the risk of blockage or easier maintenance, Can I connect the sink waste pipe to the toilet soil pipe underneath the floor directly, or should I make a way around (like 90 degree shape pipe work, much longer distance) to connect the sink to gully?
Would love to hear your opinion, thanks.
Nice video 👍
@ 04:52 You told me mum you would never mention that again!
Hi Andy, I’m just about to doing something similar but on a much smaller scale. I’m extending the main gully for the kitchen sink and bathroom waste water and wondered do I need a u bend as that is what is there currently on the original clay pipe.
Some permanent jobs aren't as good as this. Awesome work.
Thank you Tahir! 👍👍
Have you worked with Steven Spielberg. Your filming 🎥 amazing.
Grand Job!!!!!
Thanks. Very interesting and impressive. But I have a question: between your handyman work and your drumming when does your wife ever see you? 😀
Great job 👍
Good detective work.
Cheers!👍
Great video, thanks
Well done Andy. Proper and professional.
The feminists are going to be hating on you over the pipe joke.
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I have a 1930's property and my gutter goes into a clay chamber that is smashed like yours and is causing damp. We don't have a man hole like you do. How do i find if it goes into the foul drain
Nice job.👍
Thats a great job for a temporary repair!
I see you didn't give the porch downpipe an underground connection, is that because of the new porch build?
Yeah, that won't be there any more in a couple of months. 👍
Andy, couple of questions. Was there any particular reason that you didn't replace the extra couple of meters with PVC into the existing pit and therefore avoiding a PVC to clay pipe connection? Also, did you consider adding an accelerator to the concrete mix given the forecast for rain?
Not sure how that would work without taking the existing live sewer apart? Huge job. Accelerator - I was hoping to be done about 6 hours earlier. 🤣👍
At the beginning you showed the crack in what you called the “U” pipe and to me, in Canada, it reminded me on some occasions of coming across a buried “P Trap” under basement floors. I believe in the “old days” they were concerned with having waste water back flow into the home when pipes on the street got to overcapacity and this acted as a poor preventer. We too, in the old days, had those homes which also dumped their gutter rain water into the waste water system and this added to the problem of system capacity. When I first saw your “U” pipe I thought that maybe it was a similar preventer for back flow of waste water but discounted that theory until near the end you described how some old homes may also dump into the waste water system. Do you think that your “U” pipe was serving as some type of back flow preventer? If not what stops raw sewage from filling your new pipes?
A trap does nothing to prevent backflow of liquid. It's there to stop sewer gas from escaping.
@@thebigmacd yes Keith I understand that as my father was a plumber.
Don't think so as this was only ever for rainwater 👍
If all tradesmen were like you the use of blood pressure pills would come to an end. Why can't they do what you do!!!! As you say, "it's not rocket science" but it is taking a pride in your work.
Hi Andy, what brand are you using for the drainage pipes /gully etc? I I need to do some work too and wondering whether floplast the sell at screwfix is decent enough to do the job. Cheers
Yeah, I've found Floplast to be great 👍
@@GosforthHandyman thanks!
What type of cutting blade do you use with the angle grinder!
love the video keep it up