NEW MODEL w/OPEN Living Under 30ft!! 2022 Cougar 25RDS
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- [NEW MODEL!] 2022 Keystone RV Cougar Half Ton 25RDS Travel Trailer with Weather Package, King Bed, and so much more just under 30ft total!!
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2022 Keystone Cougar 25RDS Travel Trailer Specs
Empty 6,310
Cargo 2,490
Max 8,800
Hitch 835 lb.
Length 29'10"
Fresh 60 gal
Gray 60 gal
Black 30 gal
Bed 70" x 80"
Solar 200w, 400w, and 600w options available
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We FINALLY got our hands on this one!! It's really just the VERY popular 24RDS Cougar fifth wheel (seen here bit.ly/3E7VuHb) adapted to a travel trailer & made to fit under 30ft of total length.. and it's a WINNER baby!!
The size and weight will work for many half tons but not all of them. You'll always want to verify safe tow ratings and we can certainly assist you with that.
The living space is shockingly expansive given the total size of the RV and something I could see someone enjoying equally well for regular travel or seasonal sites!
Here's a few other trailers in that size range you may also enjoy!
→ Cougar 22MLS bit.ly/2Z3DxKz
→ Grey Wolf 23MK bit.ly/3bAvBUn
→ Cougar 26RBS bit.ly/3bFNBg1
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Josh, you are certainly my favorite! I love this model; but absolutely love your presentation! Thank you!
Glad you like it!
Nice RV. I’m so happy to see a NON bunk travel trailer!! I’d also love to have that shower in my travel trailer.
They actually make it both ways!!
One of the best floor plans on the market in my opinion. Laminated walls, aluminum frame, king bed, 12v fridge, amazing living room space. What’s not to love!?!
You need a job? This is great lol
I agree with you 100%
I agree. My hubby is 6’7” so we need a king bed and taller ceiling.
Absolutely. I just looked at a Grand Design 2500rl and it’s the same layout swapping the dinette and theater seats locations. But this cougar is sexy. Room temp sensors and a fireplace…Whattttt
Okay I just bought one of these 2022 Keystone Cougar 25RDS ("East" version, with the front cap window).
Here are some things to consider and some practical insights:
SolarFlex 400i installed at the factory. They're installed on opposing sides of the arched so the angles are slightly different and you don't get even exposure to the panels. However, they are good panels and when it's sunny you get good current that helps keep the batteries topped off. We did deplete the batteries the second day we had this rig, while dry camping in freezing weather (about 17 degrees Fahrenheit) by running the furnace at 63 degrees F and having the waster water tank heater on - took about 8-9 hours to drain the batteries down to about 5.0 volts, so not too crazy. You'll know when the battery voltage is low because your carbon monoxide detector will start beeping intermittently and you cannot ignore it. Since it was dark and we had no generator, had to run the truck for about an hour to get the batteries charged up enough to bring our slide in so we could travel. The driving and solar panels restored the battery charge by the time we got home about 6 hours later.
SIDE NOTE: Even though it was 17 degrees outside it was still 44 degrees in the coach, so kudos to the climate package / insulation for doing it's job.
Dealer installed roof vent covers (x2) as they don't come covered from the factory, and if you want to have your vents open when it's raining or snowing, you'll be glad you spent the few extra bucks for the vent covers.
Factory installed vent fan in the bathroom is just alright. It's one of those tiny 12v fans vs. the large, full vent area fans. I'm not even sure it ventilates to be honest. Consider upgrading to a bigger, better fan.
No factory installed vent fan in the vent over the bed at the front of the coach. I'll be getting a Fantastic Fan installed her next visit to the dealer!
Dealer installed Thin Shades on the door windows, as they come without covers from the factory, but they do have that distorted glass. It's nice for privacy. However, if you want to open the shades, you have to open the door and screen to get to the shade - you can't do it with the door shut so plan ahead.
There is no toilet paper holder.
The shower doors are heavy and there are 3 pieces of glass. If your trailer is not level front to back, the doors tend to slide open while you're showering so keep that in mind. The factory installed shower head is great, adjustable (full shower, more focused water stream, and off), and well-placed for taller people. Plenty of room as well (I'm 6'3" and much more rotund than Josh), especially with the skylight right above the shower enclosure.
The blackout shades are nice, but the rollup mechanism is strong and if you don't hang onto them while lifting them, they go all the up to the top of the roller and it's a bugger getting them back down - so hang onto the shades when you're rolling them up!
The front cap window is nice, but if it's cold outside and you're running your propane furnace, you may see quite a bit of condensation that accumulates at the bottom of the pane.
There are two gray water tanks - one for the shower / bathroom sink, and one for the kitchen sink. The gray water for the shower / bathroom sink is on the same waste pipe outlet as the black water, but the second one for the kitchen sink has it's own separate waste pipe outlet, so you might consider getting a "Y" connector and a couple extra short lengths of sewer hose unless you like having to manually move one hose back and forth between waste pipe outlets. In my experience, gray water tanks fill up quickly when you're just rinsing dishes or washing hands or heaven forbid, showering.
The waste valve handles are short. If you're tall or not young and flexible, it may be a little cumbersome getting down on your knees to get under the coach and reach them. I installed 9-inch handle extensions so I could reach them easier and am glad I did.
If you use X-Chocks, you'll need to consider this: On the passenger side, there's a plastic fender that interferes with your ability to place the X-Chock correctly. I had to put mine in upside down (with the adjustment nut at the bottom instead of the top) - was a little bit tricky mostly because I am old and stiff. On the driver side (under the slide) you need to install the X-Chock *before* you put out the slide unless you're good at limbo dancing and enjoy crawling under things - same consideration as the passenger side though, as there's also a plastic fender under the slide.
Accessing the water heater bypass valves is a little tricky. You have to go in through the driver side cargo door at the front of the coach, which is much smaller than the passenger side cargo area door. You also have to unscrew several screws and remove the wooden enclosure to access the back of the water heater where the bypass valves are located. Tricky if you're too big to jam yourself into that small cargo compartment, but you could just feel around for the valve (it's a simple bypass valve that was easy to open and close).
The In-Command system is mostly great. If you have the system with the GlobalConnect feature (e.g. access from anywhere with an internet connection) you'll need at least 8Mbps - 12Mbps to maintain a steady, reliable connection (learned this from the In-Command tech support person I spoke to after having issues with this). Also, be sure that your date and time is set correctly or the GlobalConnect system may not be available and you may have connectivity issues. Oh yeah, you'll have to setup an account with GlobalConnect first, but that's a given.
Very little storage in the bedroom. The wardrobes on either side of the bed are short and the driver side is more shallow than the passenger side. If you're taller than 4'8" your clothes will not hang nicely in either wardrobe. The cubbies on either side are small and deep, so we got little baskets to put stuff in to make it easier to get stuff out.
The bed is nice but be advised it is not a true king size bed - it is 70" x 80" (RV King), so finding linens might be a little tricky. Also, you have to climb in from the foot of the bed, it's not a walk around.
These vortex vents for the fan / air conditioning aren't all they're cracked up to be, at least not yet as we haven't been out in warm enough weather to use the A/C (to be fair). Running the fan on high and it doesn't seem like there's much air coming out of these vents - they're adjustable (you can turn them to adjust the flow) but even that doesn't seem to make much of a difference, at least just using the fan.
Some of our favorite features are the electric fireplace (very nice ambience, also a small 5000 BTU heater to take the chill off), the recliners with heat and massage, the bigger bed, the deep dual kitchen sinks, the inverted outlets, the under-counter area for a little trash can, the 12-volt refrigerator, and the flooring that is durable and looks nice.
Overall very pleased with this travel trailer.
Man I hope everybody wanting a cougar reads this. Awesome AWESOME input from an actual owner!
We are considering this RV, the bedroom storage is a big drawback for us. How do you handle that? Where do you put your clothes?
@@clbolinder We fit as much as we can in the wardrobes and the overhead cabinet (we got some baskets that fit up there so we could put our rolled up socks and underwear in them, and roll up our t-shirts and pants and stuff them in there). The balance goes in containers under the bed in the storage area.
We don't bring that many clothes with us, only what fits in our carry on sized luggage plus the stuff on hangars,
Clunk, thanks SO much for your in depth review. We're considering this TT too, albeit the 25RDSWE because we dont want the hassles of the windshield and also a lighter tongue weight. You mentioned you were charging the batteries as you drove down the road. May I ask what your tow vehicle is? Also, have you ever taken your rig loaded the way you wanted to the local CAT scales? Thanks!
@@AmJaxineer any vehicle with a wired charge line will provide a charge to the rvs batteries in transit
Oh Josh! You crack me up! Your wife must giggle 24/7! Thank you for your excellent videos!!😊
She's so used to me at this point it's mostly just eye rolling. Which is fair.
You’re kidding right? He has the humor of an attention getting awkward 12 year old. He would sell a lot more of these if he was more professional.
I love this floor plan. Just move the table wherever you need it. Makes for extra prep space too.
I was thinking more prep space too
I guess in thinking about what you said about the dinette not being hard enough to put an outdoor kitchen, I guess that is correct the other similar models that I was thinking about all had a rear bath so they had room under the bathroom sink to put the outdoor kitchen. While I like the design of this to some degree, having that large U-shaped dinette really does illuminate a lot of storage space and makes it impossible to have that outdoor kitchen that I think most campers would want. I guess I will have to keep looking at some different under 30 foot designs. We really do love the rear bath the most. Another thing about this one that I was kind of unhappy with was that it almost looks like you have to climb over the toilet to get into the shower. I appreciate the fact that I had a nice rectangular shower but not the greatest toilet positioning. I guess I need to become a multi millionaire to have one custom-made to the specifications I want lol keep up the great videos Josh we find your information so incredibly helpful and I’m glad you will be staying on now that you are part of the Bush family.
@@lindabarcia9764 if you were still curious i have been looking and their is also a little more budget friendly 2022 puma 26rls trailer that is extremely similar to this but it does have a mini outdoor kitchen option as well as easier access to dinette storage
@@lindabarcia9764 check out the Grand Surveyor 253RLS
I absolutely love this travel trailer. You could live in this. Love everything about this. The king bed, the large shower in the bathroom, love the unshaped dinet that could sleep 2 adults and all the windows.
Theater seats!
Beautiful colors, textiles and textures. Awesome floor plan.
Under rear window dinette seat, install 550 amp hour lithium batteries, 3000 w converter, charger, 30am solar controller. Drawers in other.
I could see that!!
I like rear dinette floor plans. An exterior door to that dinette storage would be nice. This would be a great full time trailer.
Agree completely on that
2 entry doors is a huge bonus, the kitchen is beautiful
We bought this 25RDS a couple months ago. We love it. So glad to have a U dinette again. We missed it in our last one.
Congratulations!! Great pick
Very nice i love when the bathroom is right nextcto the bedroom and bedroom is private
This is a great RV! Love all the windows, open feel and travel access to the floor plan. Would like to see more features on the outside campside of the RV. Possibly a small mini fridge under the dinette, propane connection for a grill, mounting brackets for TV and Grill similar to those in the Rockwood mini lights and Ultra Lights. And as others have said pull out storage drawers for the dinette. Love the king bed, bedside storage similar to the Imagine 2500rl would make it even better
My 2021 has the storage drawers on the dinette base. Odd that Keystone would put that rounded base with no drawers in the newer units. That seems to be a step back.
I'd like to see outside storage access to storage under the dinnet and/or pullout drawers/storage bins, an outdoor kitchen ( maybe just a beer fridge and a sink.) Also i would like to see drawers under the foot of the bed! Other than that i love it! Another great video Josh!
I had a similar thought. It feels logical
Same thoughts. Except I'm wondering what is behind the fireplace? Water heater is on the drivers side and furnace looks like it's tucked in the far corner of the kitchen. Why not straighten out the counter by the back door and sneak a mini fridge behind the fireplace.
@@rsmartin68 also the void of space in the corner between the sink and stove. Looks like some wasted space there!
@@jasonwheat5242 the void you mention is where the furnace is located. Not really a void.
@@rsmartin68 Hmm... not sure!
You’re amazing thank you for all you do for us so we don’t have to do all the legwork otherwise we’d have to run around and be looking at all these trailers
in the cold !!
you are amazing and I really appreciate it cause I’m gonna buy one this year but it’s like candy in the candy so many Decisions which one to buy 🤔 they just keep getting better and better♥️❤️ beautiful just perfect
Finally a travel trailer with counter space
This one provides quite a bit as well
m.ruclips.net/video/XgcwuK8fr3Q/видео.html
You asked for feedback: I would buy this unit yesterday if they would improve the bedroom. I guess some people need the king sized mattress, but I would much rather have a queen and more room around the edges. Also, there's very very little usable bedroom storage. They should take a look at the Grand Design Imagine front bedroom area, 2 drawers on each side in addition to the other regular stuff. I would love the self leveling feature but I think it's only available on the next larger model and above. Great job!
Correct on auto leveling. This one is *just* a bit small to accept the system
Look at that dinette in the back, I love it. The kitchen is huge. I do not mind a walk through bathroom. I really like the space. Can you put a queen in to get more space, I don't need a king?
No. Not from the factory. King is all cougar does
We love our 25RDS. When traveling the bathroom is so easy to access…just fold open the step and open the door! Love the windows around the huge dinette and the large counter space. The free floating table is so handy to slide into kitchen space for additional meal prep or in front of the theater seats. We upgraded the mattress and changed the size to 66”x80” and it gave us just the right amount of space. We have the second AC and have used it in temps over 95 degrees. The big glass in front and second AC makes it tongue heavy at 1200 lbs tongue weight with 30 lbs propane tanks and one battery. We tow with a F150 4x4 V8 and it handles it fine but we feel trucks and wind.
Thank you for the additional "from an owners point of view" response. I just want to ask do you full time?
Do you have pets? We are strongly considering one and have been curious about how the interior puts up with pet traffic being very white and leather like surfaces. Very jealous BTW these are incredible looking campers.
@@thespankdmonkey we don’t full time but we have towed over 7,000 miles and used approximately 50 nights since our purchase in February, 2021.
@@dinner870 we have a 15 lb dog. The interior floors have held up well, no scratches. We keep a throw over his theater seat. He has not scratched the upholstery or cabinets. But, we don’t leave him unattended.
@@dinner870 I highly recommend. We have had no buyer remorse. If we were to buy today, we would buy the same one. There are so many little things Cougar does so well that you don’t know until you have used one. The only warranty items we have addressed are small items that I could have fixed myself. We looked at a 26RBS and really liked that floor plan but the big dinette with windows and the extra counter space of the 25RDS won us over.
Perfect. We like the king bed because we keep each other awake in the queen. The walk through bath makes it so much more roomy. A tiny bath is a dealbreaker.
I would check it out in person. The bath doesn’t feel tiny (to me) in person but on camera it’s tough to capture
This is a great travel trailer. It’s nice to see one without bunks. I love the dinette and how you can move that table to wherever you want it. The floor plan is great. Love how how you show these Josh. You are funny! I wish I could think of the name of that movie with Judy Garland. My mom loved her too. Big fan. Thank you Josh for showing this Cougar. Have a great day and see you soon!
I love these rear dinettes. Some of my best camping memories growing up were around the dinette so a big one is more good feels, right?! I will say the campside part of the dinette should have a camp kitchen. I love the walk through bathroom because it makes it feel less crowded. the link goes to the 5th wheel version though.
Those memories are hard to beat man
Hello Josh. Love your videos, seriously! This particular video really spoke to me and my wife. So much so, we bought one of these trailers!!! You give the good and the bad and that, in and of itself, is priceless. So, thank you!
That is awesome! Congrats and TY for the kind words! :)
Would you mind dropping me a quick review at g.page/r/CdPcitNVx2nDEAg/review in return for the helping hand? I'd greatly appreciate it
I have been waiting SO LONG for you to do this one! It’s amazing! And now I’m rethinking our decision……..no paperwork has been signed yet!
Been waiting a year just to finally get one!!
Just got this model in the fall of last year! Great travel trailer! Pull with a F150 3.5 Ecoboost and it pulls great! What sold us was the extra height with the domed ceiling (don't feel like the ceiling was right on top of you), the openness of the floor plan, and the king size bed! We opted for the theater seating and was well worth it! All the windows are amazing, especially having one in the bathroom. Looked at so many trailers that still have the dark colors and carpet. The light colors made everything look bright and bigger. Maybe could use a little more storage in the bedroom but the king size bed more than makes up for it! Overall, totally worth it!
Ty for sharing Paul! Hope to hear more of your experience here as more videos roll out!
Paul, I have a V8 Tundra and was looking at this one as well (the bunkhouse version) and wondering if half ton towing was possible as its kinda on the heavy and long side for a half ton. I’m thinking with a ProPride wdh this shouldn’t be a problem.
PS Josh my wife and I think all of your reviews are awesome keep up the good work!!
Josh, I really needed a good laugh, and that you provided. You are also getting me to move form a Class C to a tow-able. Now you've made my decision making much harder. Keep up the great videos you have. I love them.
😂 gotta watch those early morning “wake up calls”
Finalized the paperwork and got the keys our 2022 25rds yesterday. Odd how it’s got two drain pipes. My wife was sold as soon as she looked inside. Your reviews Josh sold me. Keep doing the reviews and I’ll keep watching.
Man congrats on a great rig! Would really appreciate if you dropped my name in a quick review at search.google.com/local/writereview?placeid=ChIJ6QmeZ7bXF4gR09yK01XHacM in return for the efforts
My husband and I are always amazed at how all the gray tanks are bigger than the black tanks! We have camped at so many places that do not have sewer hookups. Gray can always be leaked out slowly on the road or otherwise. The black can not. We would love to see an 80 gal black and just a 30 gallon gray.
I really like this, though I'd probably choose the fifth wheel.
I actually like walk through bathrooms. If I had a large family it would be an issue, but as a single person or a couple, it's an efficient use of space. My current fifth wheel has one, and I like how when I close both doors it feels like a large bathroom.
Agreed. On a couples model it seems okay. For bunkhouse s maybe not ideal
80% of this trailer is great, then you have to walk through the bathroom to get to the bedroom. Hate the thought of making my wife walk through the cloud of my morning deposit to get to breakfast.
If the bathroom was it’s own cube, I would order one of these.
Yeah that seems to be a make or break for some folks
Thx for watching
That's why the bathroom window that can be opened is nice and the vent above!
@@hymlog Was replying to the walk through above....double amazing!!
I love pass through bathrooms. Our tiny 23 foot has one and the bathroom is definitely the highpoint. It huge.
Ty. Always appreciate and owner’s perspective
I agree love the bathroom
it's nice but it should have a slide-out wardrobe in the master bedroom it lacks clothes storage for long-term use.
We happily discovered this online this past summer snd is our absolute FAVORITE! We’ve been waiting for you to get it!
The floor plan and weight and length are just unbeatable.
We do prefer the color palette in the 2021, however.
In conjunction with the 2021 light, white and grey colors, the fridge in the 2021 has those nice panels on the front that match the pantry, and it just makes a really pleasing smooth flow, making it look larger, rather than the stainless fridge next to the nice pantry, more choppy in this 2022.
So glad you got one in!! We have been hoping for you to!!
By color palette do you mean the all-brown interior? In 2021 they swapped to the same look you see here though I think there were a VVEERRYY small number of super early 2021's that still had the all brown inside. Not trying to be difficult -- simply making sure I'm on the same page. I noticed you said "White and Grey" though. Sometimes the camera sees colors differently depending on lighting conditions. I've noticed my camera will shift the view on cougar seating from brown to grey sometimes.
The 2-Way fridge still has those wood-matching panels. The 12v fridge is just all stainless. Perhaps that's the difference there.
@@JoshtheRVNerd No worries at all!! I am not sure I understood all that, but we discovered online earlier this year, the 2021 version and absolutely LOVE IT! The video we saw was pretty much same lay out you showed for 2022 (thankfully!), just grey and sort of a light white, where now it’s tan and brown (not my favorite, but doable!) Then also the fridge difference, which I did understand your explanation on.
We’ve been waiting for y’all to get the 2022. Really glad they kept the awesome layout. And we can live with the color. Just 2021 is our favorite. I hope this made sense! Sorry!
Needs more outlets in kitchen by the prep space for a slow cooker
Totally agree!! It needs more plugs either under the TV, above the fireplace or along the end of the counter.
Good presentation. Keep up the good work. I like your good sense of humor. 😂😂
I appreciate that!
I really like this layout! The farmhouse interior brightens up the whole in space, as well as as the myriad of windows. I am a fan of the theater seats and this is the first trailer that the dinette placent doesn't bother me! It doesn't seem in the way. Second door road mode bathroom access is great! I would prefer a queen bed but maybe that could be adapted? The only shortage I see is kitchen cabinet space. Love the tootsie toaster but cabinet storage would be appreciated. But I am also the one who is frequently cold so it is a real dilemma for me! I like to cook and I fear I would run out of space for my kitchen essentials....may have to use the under the dinette space. Thanks Josh! Another great unit!
King is all cougar offers but I believe the “box” under it is queen sized. So I think the wood platform just needs to be trimmed
I THINK…
Thanks. I was hoping you would say that about the frame underneath the king mattress.
I hear you about the kitchen cabinets, but I am IN LOVE with the openness and the extra counter space in the kitchen and the bath! I’m going to put the pantry and also the cabinets above the dinette to good use!!
I like the ones that have a actual pull out roller drawer, instead of leaving it to the buyer to try to find a way to make use of the space. Socks and undershorts etc. at least on one side under the bedside wardrobe and open two sides, front and side facing the bed; on the other for phone charging station or ,easy reach spot for flashlight ,phone and keys in case of and emergency.
Love this, especially the bedroom. I like the shorter closets with open nightstands.
Glad you like it!!
Love dinette, theatre seating, king bed with night stands by beds, large shower and pantry and my favorite-the fireplace for winter/fall camping!!
Wow sounds like this one’s a winner
We liked the above things as well! In the fall, we used mostly the fireplace to take the chill off...has it has temperature settings to keep you comfortable.
Josh bro nerd brother love the cougar 30ft this is sweet can't wait to meet you guys well see you soon ✌️
Ty brother :)
She’s a beauty in almost every way other than I can’t get on board with the pass through bathroom into the bedroom. So open and bright, love that!
The pass through bathroom works great for us! When the wife is in bed early, I can close the inner door and still shower and use the bathroom. And in the morning when she wants to get up early, which she usually does, she can get up, close the inner door or outer door and not disturb me and the little dogs....thus the king size bed! With the pass through bathroom, you get a lot of bathroom space for this size of trailer.
Love this floor plan! I don’t hate the banquette and I always hate all dinettes! Definitely would keep the theater seats and as much as I like a king bed, I’d put in a queen mattress. Beautiful trailer, thanks!!!
I think the free floating table helps that dinette not feel so much like a dinette. The big windows that surround it give it a big "lounge" kinda feel I think
That would be a perfect travel trailer that I would buy if it had a bedroom Closet slide.
Agreed. The Outdoors RV 250RDS has almost the same floorplan as the Cougar with a wardrobe slide but I believe it only comes with a Queen vs the Cougar King so that eliminated the Outdoors RV for us. We just store pants/shorts under the bed and fit our shirts in the two cabinets.
Watched video again, all I can say is yes sir this is a nicely designed rv, great kitchen counter area, pantry, the whole package is great.
Thank you for all your hard work!😊
Thx Deb :)
Appreciate the visit and the kindness this monday.
Looks really nice. Can they now stretch that a little longer with a middle bunk? I like the 1950-60s large dinette on the end. I did not need the visual of you on the can burned into my brain, lol.. With the full package solar that would be an awesome couples get of the grid camper. Stay safe and healthy Josh.
Cougar tried a mid-bunk trailer a while back. It was shockingly unpopular despite what I thought was an excellent layout. They did it in both a trailer and FW. Both are now retired.
Very different living, but weirdly mid-bunk trailers have NEVER found a lot of success from any builder. Here's their now-retired-examples:
→ 31MBS Trailer: bit.ly/3oomSeZ
→ 29MBS Fifth Wheel: bit.ly/3ouxObe
I just picked mine up a couple months ago and it is fantastic so far. I did opt for the 2nd A/C up front and it's a huge difference in cooling capacity. Basic Solar flex 200i due to material shortage. (Will add more soon)
Still trying to figure out how to outfit stock units from a solar perspective.
If I were buying one myself I’d likely go with the 400i package but the 200 seems to still be quite popular
200 watt with battery maintainer is good and a 100Ah LiPO4 battery works good and will even keep the Norcold DC refrigerator freezer going. 400w with 2000w inverter would allow some 110v use but would need more batteries for extended dry camp use or boondocking. 600w with 540Ah of reserve in battery with about 3-4500watts of inverter would allow even one A/C to run some hours of the day with a single soft start. Lots of opportunities for full use at the 600w package.
Almost forgot some information about the Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries. The Dragonfly branded batteries are the LiPo batteries offered through Keystone RV for consumers through dealers as yourself with 5 year warranty....Kicker is they're nearly identical in price from their parent company Battleborn and they've got double the warranty, weird I know.
Beautiful!!!!! Love, love all the windows, over the bed too!!
Save me one!! Favorite one !
I just told everyone they can't have the next one. It's Deb's. Hand's off. Check's in the mail, right? :)
Great floor plan. Drawers under the dining area seats would really be nice. At least on one side for those more often needed items.
Drawers or perhaps outside access there
I love this Cougar, but miss the outdoor kitchen. Wish they had at least found a place for the mini fridge 😥
That counter space above the electric fireplace would be more useful if a power plug were there it really needs it.
Fair. Ty
@@JoshtheRVNerd my thoughts exactly. The kitchen area needs more plugs, either under the TV, above the fireplace or along the right side of the counter near the door.
Very cool floor plan. I do wish they blocked off under the dinette on the camp side and gave you a little refrigerator outside for the barley pops.
I think a fridge is JUST a bit too big to do that but I love the idea
I like it! Especially the light cabinets and trim. Lighter is Happier 🤩👍 Making my decision more difficult Josh!! 🤗
Sorry 😆 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
We have a '21 25RDS. Great travel trailer! I pull it with a '21 Chevy 1500 with the 3.0l Duramax using an Equal-I-zer 4P hitch. Very easy pull! There seems to be no difference between the 21 and 22.
Thank you for this info!!
This may be my favorite trailer to date. The floor plan is awesome, it has some counter space, road mode is quite doable. I think this is the trailer I will want, when the time comes.
Nice pick! I'm glad we FINALLY got our hands on one!
I like this floorplan a lot. I also like the fact that Cougar chose to go with a lighter interior.
Grand Design does a pretty similar camper here: bit.ly/3BtIRGk
I really like this one Josh! I've been looking for a smaller couples trailer and this one ✔'s all the boxes. Love the King bed and all the counter space in the kitchen. I personally don't need that big dinette, would like to see a table & chair option. Also with that maybe an outdoor kitchen
I love the idea of the outdoor kitchen. I am just not sure where one could fit on this unit
This checks all our boxes except...not enough clothing storage in the bedroom. Unfortunately that's a deal breaker for us. A small dresser/closet slide would have us sold. Is there a slightly larger unit with this layout and more wardrobe space?
Not that I’m aware of. There are other RVs with those closet slides though like this one that might fit your preferences
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I love this! We definitely need half-ton towable but I have long loved the Cougars.
They have a couple a little smaller too!
Best floorplan I have seen.
I love your name for the deep cabinets bedside, the elephant enema cabinet, however having had them, by using very inexpensive baskets (from one of the dollar stores) zip tied together, I was able to easily access anything! Pull the first handle and both baskets move forward. The carpet means even with a bit of weight the baskets move easily. I had a bit of room at the bottom (the baskets were narrow at the bottom) where I also put a few weird things like my marshmallow forks carrying case! Lol long and yet I didn't want them in outside storage, as my kiddos would lick them if I had my back turned! Lol
I love that low dollar smart idea there. That’s the kind of stuff I enjoy. Those fun little camping hacks
Now this is a great RV . Just wish it had some kind of outside kitchen that's a must for me..Josh you make me laugh, you are so good at what you do 👍🏻🤣
Thanks 👍
Probably my favorite new floorplan. I wouldn't change a thing, and you know I've had plenty of suggestions in the past. Lol
I know I'm late but I didn't get notified when the video came out new.
Better late than never and some seriously high praise. Thank you
I REALLY love this floor plan!! Just have a few small things I wish they did. 1.) Backsplash behind stove 2.) make fireplace optional and allow counter with drawers under instead. Fireplaces are a waste in my opinion more counter and storage space would be much more appreciated 3.) A flip up counter extension beside sink would be great. 4.) An upper corner cabinet in kitchen instead of dead/hard to reach space in back of cabinet.
The only big complaint I have is the so called "king" bed. King beds are 76 x 80 NOT 70x80 if you ever want to replace the mattress your choices are very limited. And sheets this size are hard to find too!! Just stick with a queen bed and offer more storage on the sides of the bed with drawers and cubbies like the Imagine XLS 23LDE.
With those changes this trailer would be practically perfect!!
I do love how imagine does bedside storage but that same method isn’t really available here with the wider bed cougar uses
@@JoshtheRVNerd I realize that and wish they offered a queen option. The RV King bed is not a true king bed and hard to find sheets for and even harder to upgrade the mattress. IMHO more storage and a standard size bed would be much better.
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PS, I skipped ahead to the bedroom and landed on the you waking up bathroom buddy moment. Laughed out loud!
hahaha
I was actually a little scared to put that out
So far I haven't been fired though
Hey Josh, great video! Would love to see you tour the cougar 24sab👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I have a 2021 and love it!
Nice!! We never actually got our hands on one of these last year despite having them on order
Love this model. The Cougar 24RDS was a trailer we wanted but the 1,430 lbs pin weight threw us off. The rear seat area would make an excellent on-the-road office. We wish the rear seat opened out to a rear kitchen. Doubt if a small refrigerator would fit, but a grill and Dutch sink would be spot on. We would option the SolarFlez 400i, 12V compressor refrigerator, and 2nd A/C. We also wish Cougar had a queen bed option for more bedroom space and larger side stand space. Thanks for the Nerd-Approved video.
Yeah fridge is JUST a bit too big but outside storage access or a slide out cook top could be really cool.
Lot of queen bed option request. I'll be sure to pass that along
I just bought this exact model from camping world of Kissimmee! Love love love it!!
Very nice Cougar 24ft travel trailer! I like the the kitchen, living room area and Dinette setup the Best bathroom seems to be slightly lacking space but not a deal breaker.
Lack of floor heat possibly would and I'd miss the outdoor kitchen, my brother and I spent a lot of time hanging out on his patio and near or at his outdoor camp kitchen.
But overall this a Great ew build for Cougar! I expect this will become another very popular series/Layout for Cougar!👍👍👍👍👍
Thx for another nice visit mr nick
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Oh Josh, I love the trailer almost as much as I love the insanity.
That’s a lot of love. Wow 😯
Having owned this unit for almost two years and having owned custom race car trailers and high end toy haulers and motorhomes, here are my thoughts (and wishlist for this Cougar):
* round off the base of the bedroom wardrobe cabinets on each side of the bed (they are very square and very sharp and very close to your face while laying in bed. They can cut your face. Don't ask me how I know this.)
* put the little shocks on cabinet doors. Holding the cabinet door on your head while you load the cabinets takes special skills.
* adding a small wardrobe slide would make this floorplan nearly perfect (big wish.)
* discontinue the pull-down optional shades for the door windows. They warp in the California sun and fall out, and the z-folds never fold correctly. Burn them in the campfire as soon as you can. A dark roll of fabric cut to window size with velcro attachment is simple and foolproof.
* make every outlet inverter wired. Why only do some?
* put cabinet door(s) on base of bedframe.
* put stiffer shocks on bed when you raise it up from the base.
* put exterior door at back of trailer to access underneath dinette base (big wish.)
* route cables better where they enter the slide (they can pinch the way it is currently designed.)
* extend propane hose where it routes from the tanks to the front of the trailer body. Mine is so short, it crosses over the battery tray and isn't even long enough to route it underneath the battery tray, hindering battery placement. It has zero extra length.
* weld a small bracket to the tongue where a bicycle or generator can be chained up. I believe Outdoors RV does this on their trailers.
* Lippert really needs to redesign the front of the frame where the coupler is welded. The two frame tubes come together just underneath where the ball couples to the trailer. During sharp turns the hitch hits the front frame tubes and damages them. If Lippert rounded off these tubes just a bit, there would be enough clearance so that contact would not be made. It looks sort of ghetto to have your trailer tongue bent from normal turns.
* should come with Dexter, Mor-Ryde, or Road Armor equalizer upgrade as stock and wet-bolts/brass bushings. I installed the Dexter EZ Flex on mine for under $400 and it's night and day difference in towing - the difference between riding a hard-tail Harley vs a Road Glide. It's the single biggest improvement for towing quality. Keystone could do this at the factory for probably $200 cost. If Keystone considers this one of their premier trailers, it shouldn't be riding on a stock equalizer with plastic bushings.
Overall, I still like this design as well as anything on the market.
Feedback like this from real owners is hands-down the most valuable. TY so much for taking the time to share all this!!
@@JoshtheRVNerd thanks. Since you indicate Keystone heeds your advice sometimes, I figured you could pass this on. Most are little improvements they could make, but I would say the frame/tongue design is an issue. I can't be the only one where the front tongue frame tubes make contact with towing hitches. Lippert needs to extend the coupler out a few inches. Simple fix for them but hard for us as consumers after it's welded.
I would also list the equalizer upgrade as a must from the factory. This model isn't a Springdale or whatever other entry level unit Keystone makes. I think Keystone has the margins to throw in this upgrade from the factory if they consider this their premier category of trailer. It is the single biggest upgrade for the towing consumer - from hours of harsh towing to a soft, floating type of pull. Many consumers won't have the capability to do it at home, so they will never know how harshly these pull with the stock/cheap equalizer.
@@teamharveymotorsports5436 Good stuff. I'll certainly pass it along! When they hear customer feedback with frequency they tend to act on it. Perhaps if they see a regular trend of similar sentiment
All I do is ask questions - YOU help make the difference!
So glad your finally reviewing this! My husband and I are currently seriously considering trading in our GeoPro for this one! We need more space for us and the dogs!
What kind of dogs??
A 85 pound chocolate lab and a 20 pound pug mix! The lab is just over a year old and doesn’t understand her size! We also want a space where we can hang with my parents. We typically hang out in their trailer when we camp with them. What is your process with people out of state that want to purchase from you?
@@samanthabush408 It's really not a lot different than if you were local. Taxes may changed based on a few details of the purchase but out of state and long distance stuff is quite literally every day rank and file work for us
I really love this layout and features
11:43 I like them as 1) they reduce wasted hallway space, & 2) create nice separation of the bedroom from the kitchen/living areas (especially if there are guests sleeping over; even more so if there’s a half bath they can use 😉 or they can use the cat hole you dig near the sewer dumps outside 😏) 😛😝😜🤪 + 3) great for travel access when a 2nd entrance is added in the bedroom (better than in the bathroom 🚽🚿)
I get the folks who dislike cutting the camper off but with just a couple it doesn’t feel like a frequency issue
You crack me up Josh. Thank you kindly
Glad you enjoyed
Nice to see that they have 110v outlets connected to an inverter. I modified my class A with an automatic transfer switch that switches all the 110v outlets to a 3,000 watt inverter when you turn it on. We like to camp at state and county parks that often don't have hookups. It's nice to be able to microwave a cup of coffee in the morning without running the generator and annoying the neighbors. Not a big deal if you mainly stay at parks with hookups, but super convenient if you don't.
Yeah Cougar's been doing it longer than most. It's starting to become more and more common though
Love the windows and the dinette!
Nice trailer, would like doors to the dinette storage instead of having to move the cushions. Wish the bathroom window was frosted.
Ohhhhh I like this too. Putting this on the list for the RV show!
Good pick!!
Nice camper Josh. My negatives for me personally is not a fan of walk through bathrooms and white cupboards but like the kitchen divided sink much better than the one piece sinks. Overall though Nice lay out. Love the entertainment videos as always.
Ty for sharing here, Lynn! All of it helps me understand what people are seeking in an ever changing market
That is a great trailer! I wouldn't change anything on that trailer!
Nice!!
Love that back window!
Makes the whole thing feel massive
I love this floor plan. Is the movie Ziegfeld Girl. Thanks for sharing Josh👍👍
Not quite!!
Have you heard of the dread pirate Macoco??
I like that, lots of counter space and the second door is a big plus. Since there would only be one or two people using this 95% of the time the walkthrough bathroom isn't an issue. Plenty of room for daytime guests and rainy days, I would probably go with a bigger solar package and a second air for those hot steamy days. I actually like this more than the fifth wheel for the travel mode access.
I wondered how people would feel about the travel function on this vs the 24rds
I own this model (2021). We added 3 more solar panels, a Victron MPPT solar charge controller, and a 100 amp hour lithium battery. Super happy with it. On 100+ degree days, we wouldn't mind the second AC but the single does a really good job on its own.
Love all the windows and the huge dinette! and the rectangular shower is to die for. and the recliners! The huge front window over the bed is awesome and the second entrance solves the road mode access problem I have with my current trailer. Pretty much checks all the boxes for me. one problem I see would be the kitchen prep space under the tv. what happens when someone is working there and you are trying to watch the tv from the recliner? move to the dinette and turn the tv ?
The prep space under the TV always struck me more as serving space.. set and grab then sit down kind of thing
I like that one too especially more countertop in the kitchen I like that got a place for coffee maker
I see lots of too for the breakfast griddle too :)
@@JoshtheRVNerd but it needs more plugs in the kitchen. Maybe under the TV, above the fireplace and/or even to the right side of the counter's edge.
Cougar does a great job on these TT . I have the 26rbswe , really love it!
26rbs is a personal favorite
7:24 also makes for excellent expanded kitchen counter prep space‼️ 👩🏽🍳 🥘 👍🏽
*especially when preparing that road kill pheasant 😉
Cluck Cluck Thump Thump lol
Really like the execution in the living and kitchen area. Not a bug fan of a walk through bathroom but "it is what it is" and it gives good space. The only real shortcoming inside is the lack of closet space. TV position in the bedroom is not good.
Always trade offs in a shorter camper but I would rather have them in the bedroom than in the living area where you actually spend time.
Yeah the closet space feels like it has "just enough"
I can go a week out of a backpack myself but my wife prefers things a little more organized
Which is great.. she's always bailing us out whenever we need that random thing nobody else considered
You are soooo funny! Love your videos.
Ty
This one is also perfect for me to 🤓
Love the floor plan. Great job.
Thanks Dale!
Perfect floor plan!
High marks!!
Love this floor plan over the Jayco and Imagine versions with the dinnette in the rear. Since I will still be working part time, that table makes a great office with hopefully a great view. Just wish the was a no windshield option.
This seems to be the most commonly liked answer
Ty for taking the time
The western editions do not have the windshield but the have a few other differences that you may not like so look at them closely.
Buy the western version with no windshield.
Nice RV, Great floor plan 😀
Thanks! 👍
They also now offer this in a bunkhouse format at well which is *really* well done I think. See it now at bit.ly/3pAkmlr
This is a great floorplan and what I picture us moving up to eventually. Since we can have some space to ourselves from time to time but still have a small camper. I just wish that you didn't have to walk through the bathroom to go to the bedroom.
Coachmen made a version where you walked around the bathroom but weirdly it was retired recently
@@JoshtheRVNerd well tell them to bring it back Josh! Though with the duel entry doors, it's not a deal breaker.
Nice trailer and wouldn't mind this one. Have a question, can you get it with a full queen instead of the 70×80 king? And please let cougar know they need a power plug for that longer counter space.
Not from the factory but I believe the bed base is queen sized so it’s just a matter of swapping the mattress and trimming the decking
My thought exactly! There needs to be another plug under the TV/above the fireplace or even to the right of the counter. I'd be interested in seeing a response from Josh about this.
@@tonymonicasplanbmichigan5842 I'm rarely against extra outlets. What do you picture being used there?
@@JoshtheRVNerd crock pot, ice maker, USB charging dock for phones/Fitbit/Kindle...
@@tonymonicasplanbmichigan5842 Charging dock was one of my thoughts too. TY for the insights. Gives me more ammo to pass along to the MFG
Amazing floor plan.
Glad you think so!
Clothing storage very limited. Yet overall I like this RV. Rollout drawers under hide bed dinette would been the super help. Or just the middle pull out drawer.
Drawers for the Dinette is something I 100% agree with for sure!