I love the door in the bedroom because it’s a fire exit and a usable one. If your fat or old your not getting out those windows without getting seriously injured
Seeing the slides in and determining travel access is so important and I always had wished that Josh would cover Grand Design. Josh, thank you for doing what so few do; transparent, real-world and useful information. Best on RUclips as far as I am concerned.
My husband and I have the same trailer - a 2022 imagine 2500rl that we bought in August, 2021. It has the old graphics, the 2 way fridge and the dealer installed a solar panel for us with 2 6v batteries. I was excited to see your review on it as I’ve watched your videos for years. We love our 2500rl. We have the trifold sofa (nice to have the extra sleeping space if needed which is not very often) instead of the theatre seating and the u shaped booth dinette. The only time we really watch tv is in the morning when having our coffee and breakfast so the view from the table is perfect. We love the pass through bathroom next to the bedroom. We used to have a Tango bunk model with a tiny little bathroom waaaay at the other end of the trailer so we appreciate the size and location of the bathroom. Also love the windows, the color of the cabinets and everything about it! Really enjoy watching all your reviews. Thank you !
We have a Transcend Xplor 245rl which is essentially the entry level version of the Imagine 2500. We chose the 245 because you had the option of the "theatre dinette" in place of the dinette and the 2500 did not. This gave us a direct, "no neck wrecker" view of the tv. Also, the dinette didn't have the fluffy friendly moveable table when we saw it. Love this floorplan! Glad you're getting to experience Grand Design and we get to see your take on a brand a lot of us love!
Absolutely a CPAP caddy. We have ResMed units. They are roughly W 9-1/2"xH5"xD7-1/2" including the right angle hose adapter. My uncle has an older, larger machine and that should totally fit rotated. The depth of the cubby sould allow it.
I love this camper!! I will save this so when I'm ready, I'll know what I want. I have a tendency to go squirrel when I see new campers. Thanks, Josh!!!
I'm really loving this design, I just wish it had more weight capacity to make use of all that storage space! Personally I'd prefer to have the sofa in the slide and the dinette in the back, so the sofa is properly oriented with the TV, but other than that it looks great! And it has the bedroom door which makes bathroom and bed access easy without needing to put out the slides, which is SUPER underrated if you ask me. It's actually one of the reasons I think I'd prefer a travel trailer over a 5th wheel, even if the floorplans were otherwise exactly the same!
You got me looking and yeah.. it does feel a bit light. I recently went thru their 2670MK Imagine which *really* felt light on CCC for the incredible storage space it offered
I read on a forum that although its not printed on their website, you can order the Imagine TT’s with recliners (or maybe a sofa) in the slide in place of the dinette. I don’t know about switching them, but for someone who wants the pull out couch for the rare guest as well as the recliners, its intriguing. Now if they would only make the bed bigger and/or get rid of their side closets that go all of the way down.
We believe a second door in the bedroom to be a safety feature, not drawback. It's one of the reasons we still shop pull trailers when 5th wheels fit our needs so well. The bed cubby would hold my cpap very well.
We have the 2021 version of this model! We love it except a 12v fridge would definitely be nice - we don’t have that. We love the bedroom and bought a sleep number bed and the air pump fits perfectly in the cubby with plenty of room for other items. We’ve driven across the US from maine to BC and back with this trailer and really enjoy it. Advice for any RV’ers buying….Check to make sure everything is working well. We had no hot water for 2 weeks and a stuck grey valve because the RV dealer didn’t check to make sure it was all working before we took it home. Grand Design was quick to help us out. We also added a slide awning and love it. We put a small trash can in the drawer under the stove and a 3m hook in the bathroom for a garbage can. We also installed sliding baskets to use under the dinette so we now have “drawers” for about half of the under seat storage!! Overall we love it!
It's me and my momma I always thought we needed 2 bedrooms to be happy. But we have a 2 bedrooms and we are still not happy. Because it's only 5 years old and the bathroom's already licking.😢 We are getting ready to lose the bathroom if one of us falls backwards. So we are no longer looking for huge RV. THIS IS THE PERFECT RV❤❤❤
We live full time in our 2400BH and this layout is exactly the same. My wife is 6'1" and she does not hit her head on the overhead cabinets. We live in Utah so the underbelly wrap help keeps it warm. We love our solar panel as it keeps the batteries fully charged at all times.
Love the counter space! Hate the carpet in the slide. love the bedroom, 1 improvement, wish they'd "r&d" the underbed like the spirit/freedom express beds :) Thank you so much for always taking the time to show the access when slide is closed and all the outside structural components that are way more important (IMHO) than just the aesthetics.
Very nice, great storage space, love the extra tray under the bed. I love the number of windows and the fact that they all open. Love the floating table and bench. Bedroom is nice, cpap friendly. Overall, very nice floor plan and camper.
I love the walk through bathroom because instead of having wasted hallway space, it gives a bathroom large enough to dress in. I know you have mentioned it as a point of consideration before so I wondered why others may see it as a negative? Is it because it gives others access to your bedroom? There are a few units that would move up our list if the bathroom would include the hall in some way to spread it out so I want to make sure I am considering all things.
Love the layout, I wish the back door open from the right and instead of the left. It would be a much better fit being at the back of the camping spot.
I saw this trailer today and I thought it needed a pantry. Oh well. I guess one of the kitchen cabinets will have to do! At least there are plenty of those! Also - no outdoor kitchen, although there is a place to hook up a gas grill on the outside.
I have an Imagine 2800BH and I love it. Great kitchen in this floor plan with a ton of well thought out storage. That peg board in the big cabinet is awesome for securing pots and pans. We have a collapsible waste bracket and it fits perfectly under the counter top extension. No issues getting by it either. But as you don’t don’t forget to fold it down when the slide comes in! We have the same dinette and while it looks good it’s not terribly comfortable. First even with kids it’s hard to get 4 people in there without pulling out the back bench part. If you do the seat cushions aren’t comfortable (I’m replacing the foam which will hopefully solve that) and I feel like the table should be a bit smaller. I’d lie to see that TV pivot more for a more direct view. I’m with you on open storage in an RV but I will say that even with a rear bathroom on our unit they have worked really well for holding towels. So their are exceptions. Yes sometimes there are some dark spots. In our 2800 I feel like we need another light above the bathroom sink. A CPAP should fit in those bedroom cubbies. An AirSense 10 which is really common is 4.6x10x5.91. The reading lights over the bed cycle between white and blue which is cool. The problem is when off you have to cycle through white first which means if your trying to just bring on a little light your going to blast your spouse first. Yeah once you’ve had a trailer with drop frame pass through storage your ruined for life. GD added those power stabilizer jacks for 22. I wish instead they would install the CRE3000 with the HD shackle and wet bolt kit and install max air vent fans. I’m not a fan of those power jacks and a poll I saw on an Imagine owners forum people overwhelmingly would have preferred the upgrades I mention. GD has been awesome to work with as an owner. They sent me parts directly when a few small things broke under warranty and covered a mobile tech no problem to handle the propane regulator recall. If I had to replace my 2800 today even if I had an unlimited budget I’d buy another one.
While I enjoy looking at a brand that doesnt fall under the forest river umbrella, I like the cougar version of this floor plan more. I like the second entry door for the simple fact it would be a more graceful and dignified exit in case of an emergency than a window.
We have a 21 2500RL. I would swap the recliners & dinette, 12v frig, & 30# propane instead of 20s. Our TV is lower, I changed TV to a larger fully articulated mount. Added Sony BluRay, hate the Jensen units, full backsplaah, RoadArmour suspension, Ford rear cam/TPMS, entry windows w/shades, among other things. We love it!
Being able to remove that back bench seat and use it for an extra bench or even an ottoman (and storage) is absolute genius. Oorah for "road mode" views. Outstanding storage areas and plenty of room to expand the solar package. This is nice.
Lithium Batteries fit really nice under the sliding box under the bed. and access to the back side of the wet bay housing to run the wires, and the Solar Prep is right there as well.
I saw one similar to this with a big man and it was amazing. A draw back is the sofa at the window were the back of your head would be looking out. I'd swap the sofa and dining area around so I could enjoy the view of window. Thanks Uncle Josh
Love Grand Design but the Cougar has the dinette/living swapped which is better, has a fireplace and has a glass shower enclosure instead of the squeegee curtain. The bigger oven in the Cougar is super nice too so I can cook that road pheasant instead of the pigeon! A few changes from Grand Design and they would have a perfect trailer for me.
Which one of those two people prefer seems to be highly related to how important the TV set up is to the owner. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and joining the discussion!
Josh, we own the 2021 model.. Love it. A couple items we are looking to upgrade. Cabinet on left side bed on floor, not suitable as step. Need to repair to make sturdier. Better light placement in bath over sink. Same under cabinet for kitchen sink. AC unit loud if watching TV. Larger AC, or second in bedroom. Was a bit warm on trip to Mount Rushmore last year. It was over 100 most of the week. We still love it. A queen air mattress fits on floor with slide out for additional sleeping.
Shade in doors please. Bathroom storage, maybe two have doors and the other two don't. Don't really need doors for towel burritos. CPAP will fit there. Home or travel version. I like this one. Already on the short list.
I bought a trancend 200MK, stick and tin, I'm a widow and live in it, I just love it. There are no drafts in the cold and in tucson heat 110 plus in the summer the A/C works great, it cycles on and off 20 min compressor on 40 min it's off, I did put foam board in the kitchen skylight and my big slide window that faces south
Love the giant windows and big feel to it. Two things I don't like: 1. the retina-destroying blue LED strip under the theater seating is waaaay too blinding, and 2. if the TV is cranked for the folks in the theater seats, it makes it very difficult to use the counter and precarious to cook at the stove. Two things I would change: 1. either a 21" oven or no oven at all and 2. take the top kitchen drawer and make 2 thin ones out of it. My favorite ice cream spoon will get lost in that deep drawer. 🙂
It's a nice layout for people who don't enjoy the entertainment too much but it is fixable, with the freestanding dinette option you could take out the table/chair setup and put a couch, also trifold is standard for anyone wondering, nice unit overall for a couple, I will say I would like to see bigger stuff josh it's getting kinda repetitive recently, but nice to see you reviewing this new stuff👍👍
There slides are fulling walkable also. I would have been happy with an Imagine after owning two other different brands but made the mistake of letting the wife see a Refection 297rsts and that was all she would look at after seeing it so it followed us home. Very happy with it and I hate to say it but she was right lol.
Great video. Thanks for all your hard work. Wish GD would take the CARPET OUT and put the TV on a better swivel. Love all the other touches like the pegs in the kitchen drawer.
Wow. Near perfection! Put a shade in the door window and hook me up! I'd buy this (with a two-way fridge)! Love the minimal carpet (not into total carpetless models, too cold for the footsies). You know I'm partial and biased toward Flagstaff and Rockwood, but they nailed it on this one! Absolutely nailed it.
The groan machine. That's me getting in and out of my recliner, as I am losing weight and getting in better old man shape this year. It is an excellent rig, especially the theater sofa. But I prefer an electric tootsie toaster and no dinnette. Thanks for the video.
This would be perfect if they just swapped the dinette and theater seats. We don't watch tv much when camping, but on game day... there's no way you can watch comfortably from those theater seats. It would also make it so you could sit at dinette when stopping on the road without worrying about damaging the slide.
Another great review! I really like the style of this, and definitely seems like a quality trailer…however, the 25RDS for the size is still one of my favourites, and in my opinion better than this for a couple reasons - just switching the dinette with the sofa/seating. First, TV viewing is better on the 25RDS. Second, the larger dinette will be good for an adult (hard to say with the Imagine, but looks a little short for sleeping). Third, there’s a real pantry beside the fridge on the 25RDS. Also, on the imagine, when your in full recline mode on the seat closest the door, it looks like feet might block the main entry (I’ve never been a fan of sofa/chairs right at the back of any RV). I’ll say as a bonus the Cougar also comes with a king bed, but that’s just personal ;-) thanks again for the fantastic (and always entertaining!) walkthru! :-)
The open towel cubbies are part of what drew us to the Imagines in the first place. The real trick with this model is that you set the TV up to view from the theater seating, then you put up the arm rest and lay a mirror against it, then you position it to line up with the bathroom mirror and BOOM, Toilet TV that's even turned the right way around! We prefer the look of the '21 front caps over the '22. Not only is the roof walkable, there's some dealer in Canada (I forget the name) that demonstrates the top of the slides are also walkable on most Imagines. The insulation on the Imagination line has led to a lot of questions for us. Some references say that it's rated 0-100, others say 15-100. Some references say there are actual heating pads on the tanks, while others don't mention that. I'm sure you've already got it written down somewhere, but here's our obligatory request for your take on an Imagine 3100RD. Thanks againe Uncle Josh!
I have a 2021 Grand design imagine 2600RB, and I use a Cpap, the cube next to the bed is ideal for it and I can charge my phone there also, the only thing is that I had a 12 volt plug in added for the conversion kit so that I can use my cpap on 12 volt when camping in the Blackhills of SD.
Great walk through, you are hilarious! We have the 2018 version of this unit, and we absolutely love it. I do like some of the new features that GD has come up with, but I wouldn’t get rid of ours for anything. Build quality is top notch, we have had very few issues with ours from day one.
So excited to see you covering Grand Design now! Have been waiting for this, and even cooler your first Imagine is a floor plan we are seriously considering. You answered a couple questions we had, especially about "road mode" fridge access. So thank you for sharing that, SUPER helpful! Would love to see a review on the XLS 23 LDE model. Recently relocated to Boise, so I am sure we'll be visiting Bish's soon.
we found a skinny oblong trash can that's almost as tall as the counter and it fits perfect by the bathroom door. we have also put it by the front door because we don't have a closet there .
I like this one . Definitely upgrade bathroom fan & add more solar panels . Man so much good info / ideas , the comedy show 😂 almost made me fall off the COMMODE
I love the bathroom. I wish this was the design in more models. The door in the bedroom I don't like. The rest is awesome. I would swap the theatre seat over where the dinnet is though.
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thanks, that one is my second favorite right now. The one thing on that one is I am not sure if it would make it with the Ford F150. Other than and the door in the bedroom I love it.
Awesome Video. I am purchasing a 2021 2500 RL by grand design imagine this weekend. The 2022 and 2023 are extremely nice from the looks of this video. But of course I am getting what my budget is allowing me to l o l👍🏻
I really like this floor plan. Grand Design is just doing great things with lay outs. Really like that Euro two-tone cabinet doors. On a side note: Austin Powers called, he wants to know how GD got their hands on the actual material his dad's bathrobe was made of for that dinette plaid. LoL.
I’ve had my 2500RL for just over a year and love the trailer and it’s layout. I have two little nits about it. First, I wish it had a removable panel to access the water heater bypass. They’re right behind the lower blank panel behind the door on the left side of the oven/range. I hated emptying and removing the drawer and contorting my arm to get to the levers. Second, why is the switch for the nose lights on the left side? It should be on the right side where you “live” while camping. Yes, I’ve modified both and it makes it that much nicer. Great video and review as always!
I think the 2500RL has better bedroom storage layout but prefer the location of the theater seats in the Cougar 25RDS. Also, the pantry cupboard location in the 25RDS allows the frig to open better in travel mode. I also like the fireplace in the 25RDS. I also think GD needs to use the 21” stove/oven instead of the tiny one they use. I am with you on the open storage in the bathroom. That is an absolute turnoff for me, especially behind the toilet.
Love that layout... The rectangular shower is a plus, but they could have done a radius shower curtain to make it more fluffy friendly... I also agree that bathroom storage should have a door on it and not open shelving... I really wish the manufacturers could either go away from the blue light, or give options to change the color of the lights to a red or yellow... Something besides blue..
That's a fine layout! The only drawback I see, is the tv placement. I wonder if they couldn't find or make a bracket that would swivel out to a full 90° turn, to face the couch directly. I'm a fan of the walk through bathrooms. It's like having an en suite, and they seem to tend to be bigger. If I had to traverse the entire trailer at 3:00 a.m. to get to the bathhrom, I'd be really concerned about how well my shades were closed.. 😂
Waiting with bated breath for your review of the 2670mk (and the 23lde). I hope they're really long and comprehensive. You are the one reviewer who's opinion I value the most.
FYI, most CPAP machines should fit in there nicely. Having one myself. Depending on how deep that nook is. It appears to be deep enough if the whole width of the closet.
Glad you are finally seeing what all the rave is about with GD Josh! Watching you for years led us to our first Rockwood from a passport, but moved to a 2400bh year ago. Looked hard at the Jayco jay flight 24bh to compare, but if you get into a 2400bh you can see how it compares to the 24bh and just does everything a little better. Oh and I am glad you didn’t talk about the advertised “r” values….
Nor will I get into that Arvalue conversation. Some other folks have asked me about that. I am still absolutely not a believer in that discussion. I see where the spray has done some very good things. I’m glad to have them on our Channel here
@@JoshtheRVNerd yep. When we were shopping for ours (at Bishs in Iowa) they rattled off the r value. As an architect I couldn’t resist but to explain how r value (or u value) is actually calculated. But outside of that nonsense, and the horrendous furion AC thermostat control, we love the GD.
Josh.... CPAP sizes do vary... But, in general, for a home CPAP (yes, they do make smaller travel ones)... Most of them are about 12 inches long and 6 inches tall, and 6 inches wide, however the tubing usually goes out the back of the unit (some do out of the top, which would work better in a small space)... So it would have to have a few inches for that. Hope that helps...
I can see the pros of having a door next to the bedroom. Especially if you have guests sleeping in the other part of the RV so you don’t wake them. Also see the negatives as well tho. If you could I’d love to see some more compact units (higher end preferably 20ft max tip to tail) that sleeps 4! I think we are moving to Montana next year and planing to buy my first ever RV (gonna try my best to buy one from you specifically!! As there’s a bishs Rv where I’ll be stationed)
As a CPAP user, the cubby hole in the bedroom may cover the CPAP portion of a unit. Depending on the type of CPAP unit one has, it may or may not allow space for the humidifier portion of the unit. For those of us that require an oxygen concentrator at higher elevations, there is no room for those additional devices by any stretch of the imagination. The only two options that exist for the O2 concentrator device are: 1) obstructing the minimal walking area between the bed and the RV side wall; or 2) locate the device in the front closet of an east / west bed slide in the location where a dryer may be located. - Dan
I agree that the bedroom door is not a good idea. You don’t want to bring dirt into where you sleep and if the layout makes you go through that door just to use the bathroom when you’re on the road, then it’s not an option for me personally.
I love the door in the bedroom because it’s a fire exit and a usable one. If your fat or old your not getting out those windows without getting seriously injured
Seeing the slides in and determining travel access is so important and I always had wished that Josh would cover Grand Design. Josh, thank you for doing what so few do; transparent, real-world and useful information. Best on RUclips as far as I am concerned.
Wow Ty Keith! Lots of good stuff to come buddy
Yes, I admit I tried t watch another person review...keyword is tried.
We love the 2 door arrangement in our 2017 2500RL. Couldn’t imagine (ha!) a trailer without it!
I prefer the second doors as well
My husband and I have the same trailer - a 2022 imagine 2500rl that we bought in August, 2021. It has the old graphics, the 2 way fridge and the dealer installed a solar panel for us with 2 6v batteries. I was excited to see your review on it as I’ve watched your videos for years.
We love our 2500rl. We have the trifold sofa (nice to have the extra sleeping space if needed which is not very often) instead of the theatre seating and the u shaped booth dinette. The only time we really watch tv is in the morning when having our coffee and breakfast so the view from the table is perfect. We love the pass through bathroom next to the bedroom. We used to have a Tango bunk model with a tiny little bathroom waaaay at the other end of the trailer so we appreciate the size and location of the bathroom. Also love the windows, the color of the cabinets and everything about it! Really enjoy watching all your reviews. Thank you !
Oh wow! I remember those Tangos! Glad the Imagine is treating you well!
me and my wife just went to a show - and fell in love with this one
It's a great layout. I'd love to see it done with dual sofas and a floating table
We have a Transcend Xplor 245rl which is essentially the entry level version of the Imagine 2500. We chose the 245 because you had the option of the "theatre dinette" in place of the dinette and the 2500 did not. This gave us a direct, "no neck wrecker" view of the tv. Also, the dinette didn't have the fluffy friendly moveable table when we saw it. Love this floorplan! Glad you're getting to experience Grand Design and we get to see your take on a brand a lot of us love!
I prefer that seating setup as well. Congrats Wayne!
Yes you are right I love grand design I have the 2021 momentum 29g toy hauler
I love the second door for multiple reasons. Escape, private entry, nap and crap lol......
Absolutely a CPAP caddy. We have ResMed units. They are roughly W 9-1/2"xH5"xD7-1/2" including the right angle hose adapter. My uncle has an older, larger machine and that should totally fit rotated. The depth of the cubby sould allow it.
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I love this camper!! I will save this so when I'm ready, I'll know what I want. I have a tendency to go squirrel when I see new campers. Thanks, Josh!!!
lol same obviously :)
This one sure is a beauty!! Looks spacious, yet comfy & cozy.
I'm really loving this design, I just wish it had more weight capacity to make use of all that storage space! Personally I'd prefer to have the sofa in the slide and the dinette in the back, so the sofa is properly oriented with the TV, but other than that it looks great! And it has the bedroom door which makes bathroom and bed access easy without needing to put out the slides, which is SUPER underrated if you ask me. It's actually one of the reasons I think I'd prefer a travel trailer over a 5th wheel, even if the floorplans were otherwise exactly the same!
You got me looking and yeah.. it does feel a bit light. I recently went thru their 2670MK Imagine which *really* felt light on CCC for the incredible storage space it offered
I read on a forum that although its not printed on their website, you can order the Imagine TT’s with recliners (or maybe a sofa) in the slide in place of the dinette. I don’t know about switching them, but for someone who wants the pull out couch for the rare guest as well as the recliners, its intriguing. Now if they would only make the bed bigger and/or get rid of their side closets that go all of the way down.
We believe a second door in the bedroom to be a safety feature, not drawback. It's one of the reasons we still shop pull trailers when 5th wheels fit our needs so well. The bed cubby would hold my cpap very well.
It is a more graceful way to excape a fire than falling out a window on the upper deck of a 5th wheel that is for sure
Ok Josh that was amazing well done.
To everyone else, this is how reviews are done period.
Great job
Shh! Don’t tell them :)
I had to do a imagine walk around this morning so I go to Josh for a refresher. “Better than Bad”. Added to walk around .. thanks Josh😉
Lol :)
Where do you sell buddy! I don’t mind if you name names btw
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@@clemcadidlehopper9161 roger! Have a good season! Do business the right way and good things come buddy
"Can you 'Imagine' it?" 🤣I see what you did there. Like the outtro, too. Great review, as always, on a great coach.
We have the 2021 version of this model! We love it except a 12v fridge would definitely be nice - we don’t have that.
We love the bedroom and bought a sleep number bed and the air pump fits perfectly in the cubby with plenty of room for other items.
We’ve driven across the US from maine to BC and back with this trailer and really enjoy it. Advice for any RV’ers buying….Check to make sure everything is working well. We had no hot water for 2 weeks and a stuck grey valve because the RV dealer didn’t check to make sure it was all working before we took it home. Grand Design was quick to help us out. We also added a slide awning and love it. We put a small trash can in the drawer under the stove and a 3m hook in the bathroom for a garbage can. We also installed sliding baskets to use under the dinette so we now have “drawers” for about half of the under seat storage!! Overall we love it!
I think 12vs were a newer addition to this lineup. Glad to see them available though
It's me and my momma I always thought we needed 2 bedrooms to be happy. But we have a 2 bedrooms and we are still not happy. Because it's only 5 years old and the bathroom's already licking.😢 We are getting ready to lose the bathroom if one of us falls backwards. So we are no longer looking for huge RV. THIS IS THE PERFECT RV❤❤❤
We live full time in our 2400BH and this layout is exactly the same. My wife is 6'1" and she does not hit her head on the overhead cabinets. We live in Utah so the underbelly wrap help keeps it warm. We love our solar panel as it keeps the batteries fully charged at all times.
Love the counter space! Hate the carpet in the slide. love the bedroom, 1 improvement, wish they'd "r&d" the underbed like the spirit/freedom express beds :) Thank you so much for always taking the time to show the access when slide is closed and all the outside structural components that are way more important (IMHO) than just the aesthetics.
TY Kathy! It was funny watching peoples' faces thru the windows at this event as the slides moved in and out
No fireplace a must for me 🔥
Can you Imagine Josh taking so long to pull out that dad joke? Another great review.
I totally can.
Cuddles are the best! 100000%
💯 agree
This is as close to perfect floor plan that I've found. Thanks Josh!
My pleasure!!
Very nice, great storage space, love the extra tray under the bed. I love the number of windows and the fact that they all open. Love the floating table and bench. Bedroom is nice, cpap friendly. Overall, very nice floor plan and camper.
Gotta go with the Cougar. Theater seats actually across from TV AND a fireplace.
I’d love to see this one with dual sofas
I agree dual sofas would be awesome!!
I love the walk through bathroom because instead of having wasted hallway space, it gives a bathroom large enough to dress in. I know you have mentioned it as a point of consideration before so I wondered why others may see it as a negative? Is it because it gives others access to your bedroom? There are a few units that would move up our list if the bathroom would include the hall in some way to spread it out so I want to make sure I am considering all things.
It varies by preference
Some people don’t like the rv being cut off while it’s being used
Love the layout, I wish the back door open from the right and instead of the left. It would be a much better fit being at the back of the camping spot.
Rare for RV doors to do that. I THINK it’s so the door doesn’t FLING open if it happened to pop open in transit. just a guess
I saw this trailer today and I thought it needed a pantry. Oh well. I guess one of the kitchen cabinets will have to do! At least there are plenty of those! Also - no outdoor kitchen, although there is a place to hook up a gas grill on the outside.
Come on Imagine, let’s do carpetless!! And “toliet”?? 🤣🤣
Romeo and Toliet
I have an Imagine 2800BH and I love it.
Great kitchen in this floor plan with a ton of well thought out storage. That peg board in the big cabinet is awesome for securing pots and pans. We have a collapsible waste bracket and it fits perfectly under the counter top extension. No issues getting by it either. But as you don’t don’t forget to fold it down when the slide comes in!
We have the same dinette and while it looks good it’s not terribly comfortable. First even with kids it’s hard to get 4 people in there without pulling out the back bench part. If you do the seat cushions aren’t comfortable (I’m replacing the foam which will hopefully solve that) and I feel like the table should be a bit smaller.
I’d lie to see that TV pivot more for a more direct view.
I’m with you on open storage in an RV but I will say that even with a rear bathroom on our unit they have worked really well for holding towels. So their are exceptions. Yes sometimes there are some dark spots. In our 2800 I feel like we need another light above the bathroom sink.
A CPAP should fit in those bedroom cubbies. An AirSense 10 which is really common is 4.6x10x5.91. The reading lights over the bed cycle between white and blue which is cool. The problem is when off you have to cycle through white first which means if your trying to just bring on a little light your going to blast your spouse first.
Yeah once you’ve had a trailer with drop frame pass through storage your ruined for life.
GD added those power stabilizer jacks for 22. I wish instead they would install the CRE3000 with the HD shackle and wet bolt kit and install max air vent fans. I’m not a fan of those power jacks and a poll I saw on an Imagine owners forum people overwhelmingly would have preferred the upgrades I mention.
GD has been awesome to work with as an owner. They sent me parts directly when a few small things broke under warranty and covered a mobile tech no problem to handle the propane regulator recall. If I had to replace my 2800 today even if I had an unlimited budget I’d buy another one.
I love how they have such an interest in taking care of their customers
While I enjoy looking at a brand that doesnt fall under the forest river umbrella, I like the cougar version of this floor plan more. I like the second entry door for the simple fact it would be a more graceful and dignified exit in case of an emergency than a window.
I prefer Cougar’s sofa position myself. It’s a bit “bulkier” but I like what they do
This isn’t a slouch by any means
All personal preferences!!
My favorite floor plan since I've watched your channel! When I buy one this will be it!
Wow! TY Kirk! Appreciate the visit! :)
We have a 21 2500RL. I would swap the recliners & dinette, 12v frig, & 30# propane instead of 20s. Our TV is lower, I changed TV to a larger fully articulated mount. Added Sony BluRay, hate the Jensen units, full backsplaah, RoadArmour suspension, Ford rear cam/TPMS, entry windows w/shades, among other things. We love it!
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Being able to remove that back bench seat and use it for an extra bench or even an ottoman (and storage) is absolute genius.
Oorah for "road mode" views. Outstanding storage areas and plenty of room to expand the solar package. This is nice.
Ty ☺️
That pass-through!!! This is a great model, butI can't believe they didn't put solid steps on the main entry.
Lithium Batteries fit really nice under the sliding box under the bed. and access to the back side of the wet bay housing to run the wires, and the Solar Prep is right there as well.
Nice!!
I like the door in the bedroom. Good for travel and fire escape.
I really do as well. Always surprises me the folks who don't want them
I saw one similar to this with a big man and it was amazing. A draw back is the sofa at the window were the back of your head would be looking out. I'd swap the sofa and dining area around so I could enjoy the view of window. Thanks Uncle Josh
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Beautiful looking camper, love the baggage latch doors. Very light weight! ☝️👍
👍the intro to the video. For a couples only camper this one is a 9 out of ten. For the great information video you get 💯
Ty James!!
Love Grand Design but the Cougar has the dinette/living swapped which is better, has a fireplace and has a glass shower enclosure instead of the squeegee curtain. The bigger oven in the Cougar is super nice too so I can cook that road pheasant instead of the pigeon! A few changes from Grand Design and they would have a perfect trailer for me.
Which one of those two people prefer seems to be highly related to how important the TV set up is to the owner. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and joining the discussion!
Can't wait for your review on 2600rb and 2670mk!
I think I have a 2600 coming
Didn’t get a chance YET to get a 2670
Thanks for the video. I’m now considering this and inspected one today. It is in my top 3 choices at this time.
She sure seems to be popular!!
Josh, we own the 2021 model.. Love it. A couple items we are looking to upgrade. Cabinet on left side bed on floor, not suitable as step. Need to repair to make sturdier. Better light placement in bath over sink. Same under cabinet for kitchen sink. AC unit loud if watching TV. Larger AC, or second in bedroom. Was a bit warm on trip to Mount Rushmore last year. It was over 100 most of the week. We still love it. A queen air mattress fits on floor with slide out for additional sleeping.
This is great stuff. TY for sharing your experiences!
Shade in doors please.
Bathroom storage, maybe two have doors and the other two don't. Don't really need doors for towel burritos.
CPAP will fit there. Home or travel version.
I like this one. Already on the short list.
Is the list still short or getting longer?
@@JoshtheRVNerd Varies between 5 and 10. Depends on what shiny squirrels you post. The Imagine is n the top 5 and has been for awhile.
I bought a trancend 200MK, stick and tin, I'm a widow and live in it, I just love it. There are no drafts in the cold and in tucson heat 110 plus in the summer the A/C works great, it cycles on and off 20 min compressor on 40 min it's off, I did put foam board in the kitchen skylight and my big slide window that faces south
Wow! That’s awesome feedback Ty!!
Love the giant windows and big feel to it. Two things I don't like: 1. the retina-destroying blue LED strip under the theater seating is waaaay too blinding, and 2. if the TV is cranked for the folks in the theater seats, it makes it very difficult to use the counter and precarious to cook at the stove. Two things I would change: 1. either a 21" oven or no oven at all and 2. take the top kitchen drawer and make 2 thin ones out of it. My favorite ice cream spoon will get lost in that deep drawer. 🙂
Agree on the blue lights all day
Nice job Josh keep it up I'm a newbie ur a big help
Welcome aboard!
Very nice Travel Trailer 👍👍👍👍👍
But I'm a Big fan of outdoor kitchen or kitchenette 😊
A Neil Diamond reference... Nice. Cool rig. Thanks for sharing.
;)
The fact that they have to put the sign “Please do not use this toilet” on the toilet, says a lot about the stupid that exists. Lol🤣😂
"ToLiet" lol
Gotta love it
You are the best Joshua 😜💫
wow ty
We have a 2016 Coachmen Apex 250RLS and it's really cool as well Josh Man!! Somewhat similar to other types of "Rear Living"👍
Apex is a brand that doesn’t get a lot of fanfare but makes a lot of fans when people actually take the time to look thru them
Would like them to consider a front windshield/window. Looks more open and helps with lighting.
Lol that profile pic of yours
My cpap fits in that cubby perfectly!
Awesome TY so much for sharing!
It's a nice layout for people who don't enjoy the entertainment too much but it is fixable, with the freestanding dinette option you could take out the table/chair setup and put a couch, also trifold is standard for anyone wondering, nice unit overall for a couple, I will say I would like to see bigger stuff josh it's getting kinda repetitive recently, but nice to see you reviewing this new stuff👍👍
We have a nice variety of things coming. Just stay tuned : )
There slides are fulling walkable also. I would have been happy with an Imagine after owning two other different brands but made the mistake of letting the wife see a Refection 297rsts and that was all she would look at after seeing it so it followed us home. Very happy with it and I hate to say it but she was right lol.
Isn’t she always!
I’m starting to really like the Grand Designs. They know how to do storage that’s for sure!
That they do
Love Love the layout. This might be the one. Thx Josh!
Glad you like it!
Rear Living are my favorite TT floorplans. Rear Bath is next. Good job.
I think I do have a2600 video coming
Great video. Thanks for all your hard work.
Wish GD would take the CARPET OUT and put the TV on a better swivel. Love all the other touches like the pegs in the kitchen drawer.
I have heard rumor the carpet may be going out
Powered Theater seating that reclines all the way is a must, and would like 30lb propane tanks up front too.
Nice counter space.
Wow. Near perfection! Put a shade in the door window and hook me up! I'd buy this (with a two-way fridge)! Love the minimal carpet (not into total carpetless models, too cold for the footsies).
You know I'm partial and biased toward Flagstaff and Rockwood, but they nailed it on this one! Absolutely nailed it.
The execution on these seems to be really clean as well. Similar to Rockstaff in that regard
Someone should make a 90 degree TV mount bracket for perfect viewing position.
Otherwise swap location of theater seats and dinette 🤔
#agree
That bracket is out there but don't know why the RV Manufacturers have not put them in their Rv yet
Really looking forward to seeing your take on the 2670mk
I've got it on the hit list for the next time I visit a store with one on hand
The groan machine. That's me getting in and out of my recliner, as I am losing weight and getting in better old man shape this year. It is an excellent rig, especially the theater sofa. But I prefer an electric tootsie toaster and no dinnette. Thanks for the video.
Good for you!! I have lost 10lbs since the turn of the year myself
This would be perfect if they just swapped the dinette and theater seats. We don't watch tv much when camping, but on game day... there's no way you can watch comfortably from those theater seats. It would also make it so you could sit at dinette when stopping on the road without worrying about damaging the slide.
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Another great review! I really like the style of this, and definitely seems like a quality trailer…however, the 25RDS for the size is still one of my favourites, and in my opinion better than this for a couple reasons - just switching the dinette with the sofa/seating. First, TV viewing is better on the 25RDS. Second, the larger dinette will be good for an adult (hard to say with the Imagine, but looks a little short for sleeping). Third, there’s a real pantry beside the fridge on the 25RDS. Also, on the imagine, when your in full recline mode on the seat closest the door, it looks like feet might block the main entry (I’ve never been a fan of sofa/chairs right at the back of any RV). I’ll say as a bonus the Cougar also comes with a king bed, but that’s just personal ;-) thanks again for the fantastic (and always entertaining!) walkthru! :-)
Ty! It’s tough when you have two great rvs stacking up against one another like that but I think your view is pretty fair and spot on
The open towel cubbies are part of what drew us to the Imagines in the first place.
The real trick with this model is that you set the TV up to view from the theater seating, then you put up the arm rest and lay a mirror against it, then you position it to line up with the bathroom mirror and BOOM, Toilet TV that's even turned the right way around!
We prefer the look of the '21 front caps over the '22. Not only is the roof walkable, there's some dealer in Canada (I forget the name) that demonstrates the top of the slides are also walkable on most Imagines. The insulation on the Imagination line has led to a lot of questions for us. Some references say that it's rated 0-100, others say 15-100. Some references say there are actual heating pads on the tanks, while others don't mention that. I'm sure you've already got it written down somewhere, but here's our obligatory request for your take on an Imagine 3100RD. Thanks againe Uncle Josh!
The dealer who demonstrated walking on the slide roof of a GD I trailer was from the "Woody's RV" dealership in Leduc, Alberta, Canada.
@@kpl-CA That sounds about right. Their videos are informative but kinda long and not nearly as entertaining as Uncle Josh.
I have a 2021 Grand design imagine 2600RB, and I use a Cpap, the cube next to the bed is ideal for it and I can charge my phone there also, the only thing is that I had a 12 volt plug in added for the conversion kit so that I can use my cpap on 12 volt when camping in the Blackhills of SD.
Man ty for sharing this
Great walk through, you are hilarious! We have the 2018 version of this unit, and we absolutely love it. I do like some of the new features that GD has come up with, but I wouldn’t get rid of ours for anything. Build quality is top notch, we have had very few issues with ours from day one.
That’s awesome and thank you so much for sharing!
So excited to see you covering Grand Design now! Have been waiting for this, and even cooler your first Imagine is a floor plan we are seriously considering. You answered a couple questions we had, especially about "road mode" fridge access. So thank you for sharing that, SUPER helpful!
Would love to see a review on the XLS 23 LDE model. Recently relocated to Boise, so I am sure we'll be visiting Bish's soon.
They have GDs at the sister store in twin falls so that should be easy to see. Just a stretch down the highway
we found a skinny oblong trash can that's almost as tall as the counter and it fits perfect by the bathroom door. we have also put it by the front door because we don't have a closet there .
Nice!
I like this one . Definitely upgrade bathroom fan & add more solar panels . Man so much good info / ideas , the comedy show 😂 almost made me fall off the COMMODE
It’s what I do!
I wish they offered this model with a front kitchen option
Could be great!
I love the bathroom. I wish this was the design in more models. The door in the bedroom I don't like. The rest is awesome. I would swap the theatre seat over where the dinnet is though.
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Has that seating setup you prefer
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thanks, that one is my second favorite right now. The one thing on that one is I am not sure if it would make it with the Ford F150. Other than and the door in the bedroom I love it.
Awesome Video. I am purchasing a 2021 2500 RL by grand design imagine this weekend. The 2022 and 2023 are extremely nice from the looks of this video. But of course I am getting what my budget is allowing me to l o l👍🏻
I think they're sharp and hope you enjoy it! :)
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thanks I really appreciate it love your videos👍🏻👍🏻
at last , a bed I can make that isn't a pain
Desperately needs a bedroom closet!
Great RV but I have 1 thing to nitpick in the bathroom. Check the spelling of "toilet " on that piece of paper.
Well that’s what I thought but I didn’t see it. Thanks for confirming. Maybe you pointed it out but I missed it. Thanks!!!
Long video. Easy to miss certain things
I really like this floor plan. Grand Design is just doing great things with lay outs. Really like that Euro two-tone cabinet doors. On a side note: Austin Powers called, he wants to know how GD got their hands on the actual material his dad's bathrobe was made of for that dinette plaid. LoL.
Lolol
Great review and comments. Why don’t manufacturers design a trash can space in larger trailers and put shades in door windows? Thanks for everything.
I’ve had my 2500RL for just over a year and love the trailer and it’s layout. I have two little nits about it. First, I wish it had a removable panel to access the water heater bypass. They’re right behind the lower blank panel behind the door on the left side of the oven/range. I hated emptying and removing the drawer and contorting my arm to get to the levers. Second, why is the switch for the nose lights on the left side? It should be on the right side where you “live” while camping. Yes, I’ve modified both and it makes it that much nicer.
Great video and review as always!
Love input from real owners like this. TY Douglas for sharing! Please keep it coming :)
Thanks for a great review. I would love to see a Imagine 2400BH and the Imagine XLS 23BHE. We are considering both of these models.
Definitely interested in getting my hands on those for future videos. TY for the request!
I think the 2500RL has better bedroom storage layout but prefer the location of the theater seats in the Cougar 25RDS. Also, the pantry cupboard location in the 25RDS allows the frig to open better in travel mode. I also like the fireplace in the 25RDS. I also think GD needs to use the 21” stove/oven instead of the tiny one they use.
I am with you on the open storage in the bathroom. That is an absolute turnoff for me, especially behind the toilet.
I think I agree with your comparisons! You have a good eye
Love that layout... The rectangular shower is a plus, but they could have done a radius shower curtain to make it more fluffy friendly... I also agree that bathroom storage should have a door on it and not open shelving... I really wish the manufacturers could either go away from the blue light, or give options to change the color of the lights to a red or yellow... Something besides blue..
Anything but those blue lights my lord
That's a fine layout! The only drawback I see, is the tv placement. I wonder if they couldn't find or make a bracket that would swivel out to a full 90° turn, to face the couch directly. I'm a fan of the walk through bathrooms. It's like having an en suite, and they seem to tend to be bigger. If I had to traverse the entire trailer at 3:00 a.m. to get to the bathhrom, I'd be really concerned about how well my shades were closed.. 😂
I've love to swaption a theater into that slide myself
"Swaption". And the list grows... 😂
Waiting with bated breath for your review of the 2670mk (and the 23lde). I hope they're really long and comprehensive. You are the one reviewer who's opinion I value the most.
FYI, most CPAP machines should fit in there nicely. Having one myself. Depending on how deep that nook is. It appears to be deep enough if the whole width of the closet.
Ty. Hearing similar input from others
Glad you are finally seeing what all the rave is about with GD Josh! Watching you for years led us to our first Rockwood from a passport, but moved to a 2400bh year ago. Looked hard at the Jayco jay flight 24bh to compare, but if you get into a 2400bh you can see how it compares to the 24bh and just does everything a little better. Oh and I am glad you didn’t talk about the advertised “r” values….
Nor will I get into that Arvalue conversation. Some other folks have asked me about that. I am still absolutely not a believer in that discussion. I see where the spray has done some very good things. I’m glad to have them on our Channel here
@@JoshtheRVNerd yep. When we were shopping for ours (at Bishs in Iowa) they rattled off the r value. As an architect I couldn’t resist but to explain how r value (or u value) is actually calculated. But outside of that nonsense, and the horrendous furion AC thermostat control, we love the GD.
Josh.... CPAP sizes do vary... But, in general, for a home CPAP (yes, they do make smaller travel ones)... Most of them are about 12 inches long and 6 inches tall, and 6 inches wide, however the tubing usually goes out the back of the unit (some do out of the top, which would work better in a small space)... So it would have to have a few inches for that. Hope that helps...
It does ty
I would love to see you do a review on the Sportstrek 271 VMB. Couples camper under 31 feet with a washer /dryer hook up.
I'll see if I can get my hands on one sometime
Love this camper, wish it was a King size bed though! I had to laugh though.. Is Toliet french for Toilet?
King bed right here! bit.ly/3F0CnQe
And Toliet is like Romeo... and Toliet lol
patiently waiting for my favorite: 2600RB. no rush, take your time.
I think I have one coming..
Please "crazy uncle Josh" do a review on a primetime tracer 24dbs OR a imagine grand design 2400. 🙏 keep up the awesome work.
24dbs is coming I think. I have recorded so much they’re all blending together
Love this!
I can see the pros of having a door next to the bedroom. Especially if you have guests sleeping in the other part of the RV so you don’t wake them. Also see the negatives as well tho.
If you could I’d love to see some more compact units (higher end preferably 20ft max tip to tail) that sleeps 4! I think we are moving to Montana next year and planing to buy my first ever RV (gonna try my best to buy one from you specifically!! As there’s a bishs Rv where I’ll be stationed)
Stay tuned - we have plenty coming
@@JoshtheRVNerd thank you mr uncle 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🙏
As a CPAP user, the cubby hole in the bedroom may cover the CPAP portion of a unit. Depending on the type of CPAP unit one has, it may or may not allow space for the humidifier portion of the unit. For those of us that require an oxygen concentrator at higher elevations, there is no room for those additional devices by any stretch of the imagination. The only two options that exist for the O2 concentrator device are: 1) obstructing the minimal walking area between the bed and the RV side wall; or 2) locate the device in the front closet of an east / west bed slide in the location where a dryer may be located.
- Dan
TY for this. Lots of info here. I'm obviously very unfamiliar with the things
@@JoshtheRVNerd Thanks for asking the right question and giving us an opportunity to respond and educate! You're the best!!!
- Dan
I agree that the bedroom door is not a good idea. You don’t want to bring dirt into where you sleep and if the layout makes you go through that door just to use the bathroom when you’re on the road, then it’s not an option for me personally.
“TOLIET” 😂
I know