Ford Maverick Hybrid: Grabby Brake Problems Explained
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- Deep dive into the jerky and grabbing brake problems of the 2022 Ford Maverick Hybrid at slow speeds. Full explanation of what happens, why it happens and what Ford has to do to solve it for customers.
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I wished I listened to my my father. NEVER BUY A NEW VEHICLE MODEL THE FIRST YEAR IT COMES OUT. In my case I bought a Nissan rogue the first year and heating/defrost didn't work properly, rear hatch window leaked. I traded it in. My sister bought the same car a year later and loves it. I ordered a 2023 Maverick hybrid and hope that most of the bugs get worked out in the next 9-12 months I will be waiting on mine.
There's no excuse for how the dealership employee treated you. Having said that, I've worked for car dealerships before and they're between the proverbial rock and hard place in situations like this. They didn't design the car but they're stuck being face to face with irate customers over issues that they have no way to diagnose and the manufacturer is totally unresponsive helping the situation. After a service manager or service writer has been chewed out umpteen jillion times over something they have no control over, they tend to get defensive. That's not an excuse for treating the customer rudely but it is an explanation why they did. It's also why I got out of the business. I finally got fed up enough to start getting in the customers face. One of them in particular had been a thorn in our side several times and on one level, they deserved it but not in the particular instance that I really got out of line with him. For some unfathomable reason, he didn't file a complaint against me and I'm grateful but it's also when I started looking for something else to do because in that instance, he didn't deserve my bad attitude.
Great job Sam for getting the attention of Ford. I just went on a 2000mi road trip and I did experience the pop and slam on the brakes. I was aware of the potential and always nervous at slow speeds. Now hopefully ford fixes the problem so I can rest easily with slow stopping. One other thing I noticed was the temp control doesn't seem to mix until it's all the way up to 80 degrees. Cold cold cold then hot. Other than those two things I absolutely love this truck! Built in Sept xl hybrid 360.
I’m also facing the same issue. Looking forward for this update. Thank you for covering this for all the maverick owner out there. You rock brotha!
I just got mine less than a month ago and I thought I was going crazy not knowing what was going on with the breaks. Glad you brought this information to light. I’ll be looking out for that fix/update!
Sam thank you so much for this video about these bad brakes on the Hybrid Mavericks . It's crazy how they grab like in a panic stop 👎😖 and the next time no problem 🤔 By the way you are number one on RUclips by far . Your to the point , don't pull not punches , honesty ,very informative I could go one but by far your the man .👍🙂 I have learned so much from you and all your videos Thank You so much keep up the fantastic work and I hope to meet you some day in person and shake your hand . Your Phil Brodell. West TN.
Poor programming and bad code = Poor customer satisfaction 😢
Thanks for the honesty in your reviews hard to find in this day and age. I ordered a 23 mav fx4 because of that issue. Keep up the fantastic work.
Not enough of a reason to switch in my opinion. It’s really just annoying at this point.
This video is 100% exactly what I've experienced in my Maverick. Glad ford will finally be coming out with the fix.
My 2022 Maverick Hybrid is doing this too. Glad to see this video. Good advice to take matters into our own hands when the software update is available in Dec 2022.
I got the exact same problem and went to dealership they said we couldn’t diagnose the problem you’re the only guy who have this problem. Now I find it’s major problem with all all hybrid models.
Thank you for the video!! I have been waiting for six months now for an update on this issue from Ford. The dealer actually asked me what Ford was doing about it when I brought the issue up to them last week... I love my first edition hybrid but the low breaking issue is killer. Trying to pick my kids up in stop-and-go traffic at school, and having the breaks grab over and over, is a nightmare for them and me haha. Keep up the good work! Hopefully they actually fix it this year.
My hybrid XLT does this. This is pretty much the only thing I dislike about this truck. That said, I find that It's disconcerting but relatively easy to manage if you pay attention. Just give extra space (more than you'd need in any other vehicle) when in stop and go traffic, and just plan for the lurch when pulling into a parking spot (you'll stop short 8 times out of 10, in my experience, but panic stop the other 2x). It will be very nice if and when it gets fixed.
Great video,. I agree this is dangerous,. If your in the snow or on ice this could start a skid were you could slide into a car in front of you. Hope this gets done and its really fixed.
Same issue with my March 22 build Lariat hybrid. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
THIS IS NOT JUST A MAVERICK ISSUE! Prior to taking delivery of our Maverick hybrid, we had 2 Ford C-max hybrids. Our 2015 C-max never had this issue throughout the 94,000 miles we owned it, however our 2016 C-max did. I never knew if it was because the 2016 was an energi plug-in model, or just because it was a year newer (there were other differences in the 2 years). It's nice to know that there may be a fix for it in the next few weeks.
I think people are overreacting, most hybrid and EV brakes are more sensitive like this. Got used to it within 10 mins. Not an issue, just ease into the brakes more.
Sam I really appreciate the way you do things. Thanks for this. You seem to have integrity and thats valuable in the RUclips video world.
Thanks for your review of the clunky brakes. I also was told by ford and the dealer to bigger off.
Wow great video thank you!! I have experienced this the first day I got it in June. And I remember saying to myself “what the heck just happened” lol I had a hybrid before this one and this is definitely not normal for hybrids. Thanks for the info , I will definitely be getting the update in December
They told me that I just had to get used to hybrid breaks, but that they were totally normal. I knew it wasn’t normal.
Great video, finally somebody has addressed this issue, just like you said I told my dealer about it a couple times and both times they can’t reproduce the problem and treat me like an idiot; typical service advisor, when you tell them something they act like it’s the first time they’ve ever heard it. And you are correct it is only a Ford problem, as I have had two previous Camry hybrid‘s, and currently also on a 22 Camry hybrid and this problem does not exist on the Toyota. Thanks for the update, keep making these great videos!
If your dealership is Camelback Ford I got the same BS when I had my issue with my truck. “We’ll get to it in 2 weeks” of course they found zero issues with my truck. I purchased my truck from Rodeo Ford and will take it out to them for service.
BTW excellent video!!
I have noticed this with 2022 Maverick XLT hybrid. It's very inconsistent and happens just before you come to a stop. It's maybe happened 10 times in the last 2 months/2500 miles of driving. I'll start keeping better track of the problem. Thank you Sam!
Nice work!!
Michigan here. 2021 Mustang GT Premium. Same problem from day one... took it to the dealership too... They said it was normal after keeping the car for days. Drives me crazy.. makes it dangerous to stop in traffic and parking lots... Been thinking of just paying the thousands of dollars to put in a whole new breaking system but haven't yet in case the issue is in the braking programming.
I haven't received my hybrid yet.. should mid November they say..good information though.. something I will have to keep an eye on..
same here
Another excellent video about the Maverick. I picked up my xlt hybrid Oct 8th and have almost 1000 km on it. Absolutely love everything about it except this specific problem. Exactly as Sam described. I would categorize it as annoying rather than a safety issue in my case, but it is the one negative in an otherwise fantastic vehicle. Oh, and I'm still just under a quarter tank left from the dealer fill up. The gas milage is insane!
I have also had this problem. This is our 4 hybrid. 2 Toyotas and 1 Honda. None of the previous hybrids had any unusual braking behavior. I have mainly noticed the problem when I am creeping forward as in stop and go traffic. After the initial stop, and traffic moves forward, the Maverick will seem to not brake normally then suddenly slam on the brakes. I have also noticed that when you want to do some slow speed maneuvers, such as a 3 point turn, when I release the brake, the truck doesn't move. Because the brakes are still applied. So I lightly apply the accelerater pedal, then the brakes release and the truck jumps forward! Instead of moving when the brake is released like every other vehicle I have owned.
Just got a 2024 and it has the grabby brakes. Not quite as bad now that I'm more used to the truck and getting a feel for it, but it still is happening sometimes.
I have the exact same problem with my 2022 Maverick XLT hybrid. I also have not been getting help from my local dealer. Can you please update this story when the fix comes available so I can talk to my local dealer again. Thanks for this.
Thank you for posting this. My driving style has adapted to the issue, but nevertheless, it IS an issue.
I've been looking at buying a Mav hybrid. Dealers are charging over $8,000 above MSRP for the base XL hybrid. That's over 35% above MSRP. That really defeats the efficiency of the Mav. I can't wait for the Toyota Maverick killer. It'll be better built and have AWD.
I'm looking forward to whatever Toyota comes out with too. Surely it'll be better quality than the Maverick.
Great job for posting this and helping get this to Fords attention. Supposedly they have released an SSM but no TSB yet. Ford says " This condition does not affect vehicle safety/performance." I disagree since I have this problem.
You have driven a lot more cars than I have, but my Fusion Hybrid has similar very low speed brakes. Nothing, then an abrupt grab. It's hard to be smooth but I have learned to anticipate it. If it's software I hope Ford can apply it to more than the Maverick.
my hybrid 2022 built date is Nov 7 wonder if they will address it during build ?
Clutched my pearls when I heard Sam spout “bs” on his channel.
What part is BS?
Great information. I have had this problem on my Xl but only a few times.I certainly will keep watching U to see when Ford will have the fix ready…Thanks
Yes! I am having the exact same brake problem. Thank you! Also why doesn't it stay in ECO drive mode, instead of reverting back to normal mode.
This may not be unique only to the hybrid maverick. I've noticed it too on my AWD 2.0 Ecoboost. I will continue to observe and post something on Maverick Truck club forum.
Its not some, its all the hybrid Mavs. Glad its being addressed. Still love the truck. This is one of many the annoyances that comes with first year models.
People never learn. You never buy the first couple years of a new model. I will say that I actually had almost the exact same problem with my 2005 Prius. It felt like the car couldn't decide between the regen brake or the mechanical brakes. I was never able to figure out the problem before getting rid of the car. My 2013 Prius glides to a smooth stop every time.
I’m glad I did, it’s not all bad. Yes, there are issues but they will be addressed and fixed
I experienced the same problem. I’ve gotten used to it, but will request the software update.
I noticed that if I gently tap and release the brakes, and THEN apply the brakes again, I can stop smoothly.
From your video, this probably triggers the disc brakes.
Just got a Maverick and I have experienced this issue during gridlock traffic. Is there an update or solution to this problem?
Can't wait to get these janky ass brakes fixed!
Yes it's a major problem if you try to get too close to somebody at the light it sometimes acts like it doesn't want to stop and you have to slam the brakes on. I'm going to file to a complaint myself thank you again
Thank you for your videos you have the best content out there hands down
Yes I’m having the same problem!!
Mine grabbed so hard one day I heard the coil over vibrate. I’m glad this is happening to others and ford knows about it. I would prob be going crazy if it were just mine. Hopefully we get a update soon. Those darn ford guys on camel. smh lol
Based on your narrative, the dealer didn't tell you to eff off. They were trying to tell you that your problem was something that would require an extended diagnosis. They were willing to look at it, just not in the timeframe you expected. Now that Ford is working on it, they will eventually fix it. At least you have a Maverick. Some people have been waiting almost 2 years for their orders.
I appreciate you doing this leg work so I and we didn’t have to. I have encountered this condition myself. Most recently in a McDonald’s drive thru. 😂. I will be needing my 10k service soon, I will postpone it until December when I can hopefully also get the software update. Thank you again.
EXACTLY same issues I have had with my hybrid. Makes me HATE drive thru lines.
Have had this braking experience with my hybrid Maverick, typically in parking lots.
Old degrading Highlander hybrids ABS.
systems fail this way. Hybrids have very complicated, very expensive dual function regenerating brake systems. Good Luck.
Thanks for the info and getting it to ford. I'll have to let my dealer know that I will need the software update for my hybrid maverick.
So, in Ford's learned opinion, unpredictable brake action, "does not affect safety/performance." Plaintiffs' bar will have a field day with that one, I'm sure!
I had a 2018 F-150 that chewed through left rear taillight bulbs. The dealer said they couldn't find any electrical problem and put it off to, "cheap, Chinese bulbs." They couldn't explain why the cheap, Chinese bulbs only failed on the left rear.
BTW, changing out those bulbs is a ridiculous pain in the rear: the housings are held on with push pins and have to be pried off. I have a permanent scar on my left thumb where the housing snapped back as I was prying it off. Then you have to do a fitting job when replacing the housing because the springy mounting tabs bent.
My maverick, lariat AWD tow fx4, eco boost experienced brake problems yesterday. Only 300 miles on odometer. While braking for a stoplight the brakes seemed to shudder. Then at the light when restarting the vehicle stopped. Message on screen said put in park and restart. Engine starts but as soon as it is shifted into drive and gas pedal pushed it stalls. Repeated the process. Still stalled. Now I’m blocking traffic, waited 90 minutes for tow. Currently at dealer but tech won’t look at it until monday (19 dec22). THE VEHICLE IS DANGEROUS. I hope the problem gets FIXED.
thank you for your work i put my order in for 2023 i hope it is ok.
Sam, absolutely awesome discussion of this very annoying and potentially dangerous braking situation. Amazing that it only effects the Ford Maverick Hybrid and not other models such as the Escape. How can this be! Engineers in their cubicles do not communicate with each other at all? In any case, appreciate so much your attention and efforts to get this corrected ! I have a 23 Hybrid on order (I know, good luck) and hopefully this will not effect product built in the near future...Thank you again for your excellent explanation of how the Hybrid braking system works and what was needed to correct the issue...
If you watch the video he explains why it’s only hybrid.
It's not even an issue, the brakes are just touchy, completely normal for a hybrid setup based on what I've seen.
@@KB-bh9hp I'm thinking that maybe you haven't had the experience, because it isn't anything close to normal.
@@aj_aka_alan I'm talking about braking, and as it reaches lower speeds below maybe 5 mph or so, it feels like it stops abruptly. Is this what you're talking about? Because if it is, I adapted to it within 5 minutes. I was just very sensitive with the braking, depressing the pedal by about half as much as I would with our explorer, and braking sooner. That did the trick. I've noticed this issue only happens when people are learning to drive this truck for the first time, and use the same amount of brake input they would on a none hybrid. Another way to describe how it feels, it's like going from a car with worn out brakes, to a car with new, and powerful brakes. Where you're really abrupt, and can't brake smoothly until you adjust mentally. Maybe the effect is more extreme than this, it's hard to know, but I'm pretty sure I've experienced it firsthand. When I first got in, I was like woah, that's touchy/sensitive But 10 minutes in, I was starting to prefer these brakes, but I'm a coaster. I coast up to a red light and apply my brakes probably 30 feet sooner than most drivers. So maybe that's why it doesn't bother me. I know many drivers who won't even hit the brakes until they're only 50 feet from a red light. Mix that driving style with sensitive brakes, and I can see why some people are having a hard time adjusting.
Today I noticed an option to turn off assisted braking. It seemed to fix the problem
Strange. I used to drive a fusion hybrid and I found the brake pedal feel perfectly fine. The transition between the regen and the true brakes was fine for a sub 25k commuter car. I wonder why they changed the brake programming on the maverick , sounds frustrating.
I wonder if the dealership would have followed up with a regular customer vs someone of Sam's notoriety
I have had my Maverick since January, and I am not experiencing this problem. My brakes work great. For reference, I also own a 2021 Tesla model Y(wifes), 2018 Toyota Prius(daughters) and 2022 Ford Bronco(my fun vehicle). I wonder what percentage of people experience these brake problems???
Mine usually happens in parking lots. im starting to anicipate it, but still...
Same issue! Does Ford any have an update about this?
When calling your dealership about this, so they don't treat you like an idiot haha, tell them you are calling about SSM 51142. Per my local dealership, after many hoops, they informed me that this is the SSM # and that I'd have to call back in mid-December for an update...
Same here. Almost crashed a couple times at stoplights, I had to slam on the brakes. Scary.
I also have this problem and went to Santa Monica Ford who said they can't update the software because my vin isn't listed for the TSB! WTF!
For me this should be a recall!
Just got the second TSB brake recall for my 2022 Hybrid Maverick done at my dealer and it seems the Ford just might have fixed the problem as the brakes are more normal than they were even after the 1strecall softwear update
I'd my maverick for a week now, and I just started noticing right now when I was coming back from the store. Both I and my wife felt the jerkiness when we applied brakes at slow speeds. I almost rear ended the car in front of me.
Doesn't affect vehicle safety? If the brakes don't do what you expect them to do that's safety no matter the speed. Is this fixed yet?
So glad you covered this! My hybrid also has this issue with low speed braking. Will the software update only be available at ford dealerships or is it something we can do ourselves?
I wonder if they can push the update out without going to the dealer. I know you can connect to your wifi at home for other updates.
No OTA
Good to hear a software update is coming for this, look forward to not dealing with this in my XTL Hybrid (built in May).
Make sure the problem is fixed after the update, years ago I got an "update " to fix the hard shifting (from 1st to 2nd) 9n the transmission, if they did something, it did not work, already over 7 years and my 2011 f150 EcoBoost still has the same problem
Thanks for the update. Good follow thru.
I've got the issue as well. Rolling up to a red light and had light pressure on the brakes. As I got closer to the vehicle in front of me, I realized I was not going to stop, and it caused me to hit the brakes a little harder, which slammed me to a hault. The feeling of the brakes is like it applies very light brake pressure but no more until you apply enough for it to switch to the other brake system. The regenerative braking is not enough to bring you to a stop, which is definitely sketchy. For now, when it does this, I inch up a few feet after the abrupt braking so as not to get rear-ended... Has anyone got an update on this? Has Ford fixed this problem for you guys when you bring it in now that it's 2023?
My hybrid Maverick does the same thing, so I've learned to drive "with an egg" under my foot when braking. My wife has a 21 Escape with a 1.5L ecoboost engine and it is even much worse than my Mav. Is there any chance that they have the same braking system?
I have the same issue. The hybrid electric thinks it is trying to accelerate, but you need to brake and it goes full brake like you pushed it to the floor. My only big issue with the car.
So can I assume th a t this will be Corrected on the newly manufactured 2023 Models?
Wow another issue.......I also see a lot of people who have Axel half shafts that are failing around 20k miles, and can't get parts
Yikes....never have had this issue with any of our Toyota Prius vehicles....and we have had quite a few of them.
Just a glitch In the brakes is nothing to be concerned about! 😟. You have air bags .
Any update on this ?? I took my maverick in today January 13th 2023 for a check engine light problem. When I asked about an update to the braking issue I got looked at like I was crazy and told there was no issue “that’s how hybrids drive.”
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Thanks for trying to improve ownership.
Hi Sam, Have you heard anything else on the fix for the brakes? People at Ford Customer Service and my dealer have not seen anything. Any info would be appreciated as always.
A TSB was just issued 12/15/22 "TSB 22-2493". Make an appointment with your dealership referencing that and they have the software update now. We have an appointment next week to get ours done and will do a video update around the first of the year to report whether or not it is a good fix.
Is there an update on the Update?
Ford maverick has a considerable amount of problems over and above brakes, electrical, gas leaks, fires in the engine bay… a death trap
Hi Sam, my 2019 Ford Ranger, XLT model does the exact same thing with the brakes that you were describing for your Maverick. My Ranger is not a hybrid but I’m wondering if maybe there are some of the same components used in the braking system. I was wondering if you’ve heard anything about similar problems with Ranger owners?
Can we not do our own software updates with the installed modem?
Not this kind of software, no. No OTA updates either.
Good info
My 2022 escape does the same thing
First year product, you're gonna have lots of bugs. I don't think the Maverick does over the air updates unfortunately.
Curious why it's only "some" vehicles. My Mav was built in August 2022 and delivered In late September. I noticed the issue immediately and began looking into it and saw complaints going back over a year. If it's a software issue, wouldn't it be all mavericks produced?
Good question.
Add it to the list of problems on this truck. And the price gouging.
Talk to the hand! ✋️
I'm driving to the dealership in 20 min to show my technician the issue. They were unable to duplicate the problem...
Sooo many Maverick problem videos. Ford needs new QC asap!
Ah, brake by wire. what could possibly go wrong?
I say the same thing about my golf shots...
Hi there. Has this been released yet?
Not that we have heard. One should stay in contact with their dealership for the latest information.