How to Cut and Reseal a Sleeping Pad - On The Trail - Episode #1
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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2009
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Suluk46 presents, "On The Trail", a series of informative videos related to ultralight backpacking products, techniques, trips, and tutorials.
Episode #1, hosted by Steve Evans, outlines the process of How to Cut a Thermarest Neoair to any length you desire and then reseal it using standard household items that you will find around your house. Once thought to be a complicated task, this episode breaks the process down into an easy step by step tutorial to ensure a successful modification.
some 8 year later follow-up on how well the bond held up, would be pretty amazing!
Just an update for those waiting: I have roughly 20 nights on the modified pad with no issues. Several other people who have performed the same procedure have reported no leakage and great results. Thanks for watching!
Fjaferlatt,
You are correct, there is no need for additional glue to seal the fabric. The inside of the fabric is coated with a heat activated adhesive. The heat from the iron is all that is required to bond the fabric.
Steve
Dude! Finding this video just saved me money. I popped my sleeping pad in my hot tent. This was perfect. I shared your video link in my video description. Once again thanks so much.
Awesome! That's why I make the videos!
The OG pad chopping video!
Lol, my first RUclips video 😂
I can confirm that this works on the 2014 Neoair Xlite. I just cut off a few inches from my size large. It started out at 16.7 oz and when I was finished it was 13.9 oz. The mattress is now 3/4 length.
Great video..thank you!
Hi Ryan, how many inches did you cut off for the 2.8 oz. weight saving?
...when the content is soooo good, you live with the crappy audio. DEF understand early days of learning the ins and outs of producing a video (it is soon learned that sound and lighting are very important, but content... CONTENT is always king) :-)
Man Steve, always at least 10 years ahead of most
wowzer, you had hair too, almost didn't recognize you without your beanie or hat. You are really good at instructing btw
case in point, some 9 years after you made this a channel called "ChrisGoesOutdoors" makes the exact same video. Probably took notes from this. I'm looking for credits to you but don't see any.
this is fantastic! Exactly what I was looking for. I've now gotta see if I can get a used one to try it on.
Hi Steve, Steve here - awesome job and attention to detail. I feel confident and excited to shave that weight off my pack. I sleep in a variety of positions and love my neo-air all season.
Hey Guys, thanks for watching! I must apologize for the terrible sound problem - . I used a point and shoot camera but have since acquired a proper video camera. New episodes will be much higher quality and no sound issues. Thanks for your patience.
If there are any aspects of the video which are unclear, due to the sound, or any other reason, feel free to e-mail me or comment here and I will clarify.
Steve Evans
I was really scared to death to try this. I'm glad I did! Thanks for your instructional video. I was viewing RedwoodOutdoors video of his 6lb pack & gear when he mentioned your video. Thank you for shaving 8oz out of my pack!
Very Brave! I'm looking at the NeoAir XLite but like others who have commented I want the large for the width but I don't need all the lenght. We'll see how brave I am. Thanks great idea!
Fantstic stuff mate. Well done. good to see the gutsy experimenting. Safe trails.
I just went for it and cut my full length down to 3/4! Seems to work quite well! If I have any issues, I have no problem trimming down one more baffle. Thanks for the video!
11 years later, I probably have 70 nights on it, still holds air!
Dude ... You are crazy ..! But you alone are a very good reason for youtube to exist ..
I probably wont try o cut thru my mat (unless it start to leak) but I will dig your site top to bottom.
Man ... Hail to you Suluk
D2O,
I understand that UL principles may seem extreme or foreign to you. I make this assumption based on your statement that you use a 3lb backpack to save weight (ie. mine weighs 7.9 oz). To enlighten you, I recommend you head over to the "suluk46" website and look at some of my gearlists in the "adventure" section. I think this will give you a much better understanding of the type of gear used by myself and others aswell. Maybe even learn a thing or two. Enjoy!
Hi D2O,
I welcome all comments/questions.I'll answer yours in order...
1) Go to 0:20 to get your answer on why I did this.
2) 8 oz is 1/2 pound (about 10% of my base pack weight)
3) Clothes go under my head
4) 1/8" CCF Sheet, backpack, and gear go under my legs
5) Warranty - a sacrifice I am willing to make in order to lighten my load
6) Yes, it was worth it.
If you educate yourself on UL philosophy and techniques, you'll find there are many of us out there who think alike - it's great fun!
Do u know where I can get the adhesive you used?
In case anyone is wondering...this DOES work with the new xlite neoair. I just successfully did it with mine, by following the process in the vid. Happy trails.
@KnqsX
The material already has a heat activated adhesive on it - that's how they seal it to begin with. No need for anything but the heat of an iron to reseal it.
Steve
I wonder if this procedure also works for the REI Co-op Flash Insulated Air Sleeping Pad..
My already short neoair has a hole in it. do you think if i got a piece of another neoair to use as a patch i could iron a patch straight on? would the fabric in the middle protect me from ironing my pad shut? the whole is very inconveniently located for a cut.
Cool video-- ballsy to cut one without being positive it will reseal.
@thebr0dy
I think if you introduce heat to any part of the pad, you will have a high likelihood of a bond occurring. I haven't seen your actual failure but the heat activated adhesive is only on the inside of the fabric so I am not sure how well it would seal if you patched it from the outside in the same manner. My initial thought was to cut a hole right through the pad and seal the edges. Give it a try - maybe it'll work!
I tried this on a Thermarest Xterm and seem to have a nice seal. When I put it in a bathtub, I can see tiny bubbles forming along most of the seam. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
Ok I've figured it out. My ironing board had a lot of cushion which I believe caused the issue. I tried on a harder flat surface and it worked out perfect. Thanks for the instructive video!
Thanks for this video! Hoping to repair my neoair after accidentally slicing it in the bottom corner. Just wanted to ask- did you use any glue? Or was it just the heat from the iron which created a new seal? Thanks very much!!
Paul Mara Just heat from the iron. I just used mine last weekend. Bond is still holding strong!
Does this work on the Trekker, too?
Does this work on the trekker?
@trevreiten
Nice! I love hearing success stories like that. Actually, I have heard from many people who used the video to repair their Neoairs. Glad I could be of help!
Is the material used in this Neoair the same as the material used for the Thermarest Trail Pro?
A friend wants a 25" wide custom Trail Pro in the womans length.
Any idea if this would work for a Exped Synmat UL?
The seal on the length of my matress got desealed during proper storage in a couple of years (open valve & standing upright). Can I seal that again with an iron do you think? What temperature would be best? (I mean equals for what kind of fabric; for sure not linen l suppose). Thx in advance!
I think if the area has desealed, then you may need to trim it a bit, and seal it on a new area that was never sealed before. Use an iron just like in the video. It's pretty straight forward. Low temp should be fine.
@@Suluk46 OK thanks, that a good idea ! 😊
I know this video is from quite a while ago but do you think this iron technique would would to fix a blown out seem on a big Agnes q core? Would it reseal with an iron like the neoair did? Thanks a lot
Not sure. I did a test on the corner of mine before committing.
Suluk46 thanks for responding. I did try it and it worked. Hasn’t failed yet. Thanks again.
Just so I understand this: The fabrics have this built in capacity to bond when heated. No need for any extra glue?
Can anyone tell me if you can use this method on the blue neo Trekker! I want to try it as soon as possible if it would work the same. Thank you!
Hello,
Do you know if it also works with the sea to summit ultralight insulated?
Thanks
Sorry man, I don't. It really just comes down to if the fabric of your pad has the heat activated glue on the inside.
Hi Jonathon,
All the info for the quilt is in the video and comments. If you need more information, you can contact Tim at the website shown in the video...youtube doesn't allow links in the comments section or I would post them for you.
Steve
Do you think it would be possible to make one of the Neoairs into a mummy bottom?
I'd love to copy that cuben quilt you [had made]. Where are the materials available, and do you have more details? Thanks very much.
Jonathan in St. Paul
Blimey, is that mattress still holding good after 8 years
When u say Bonded do u mean u used a bonding agent and heat or just melted it together? Thanks.
There is heat activated adhesive on the entire inside surface. The heat and pressure from the iron will activate the adhesive and seal the 2 surfaces together.
Did you watch the video?
@knarfster
I don't think making a mummy shape would be possible, or it would at least be extremely difficult. The baffled chambers run horizontal and I don't think it would be possible to seal the sides after cutting.
How did it end holding up?
Daniel S It's still going strong. I just got back from Patagonia and used it the entire time. And will be using it in Peru next month.
Does anyone know if this would work on a Sea to Summit pad?
Honestly, I'm not sure but will let others comment.
If your advice is as good as the sound on this video what could possible go wrong?
Darren Halford This video is very old and my same one from this video is still going strong. No issues at all.
Sorry, I was just being facetious. Thanks for sharing.
Cool stuff, though the sound really is a big issue.
Learn to record the background noise is hideous. But other than that great video and kudos for the tips. With practice companies might have you demo there products and leave reviews.
thomas oliver Hi Thomas. This was my first video, it is almost 10 years old. Check out my website....
Remember when we used to film videos using potatoes?
I do! It was a tough time for us super successful youtubers wasn't it!!!
@@Suluk46 Ha, yep. So did this modification hold up well?
@@brib9716 It literally lasted me 10 years - if you watch my Baffin Island trip, you can see it fail during my trip...and Thermorest replaced it for free!
@Torsten1345 :
Lol about what u say and belive: West Germans use the Downmat, they needed more comfort in capitalism.
The big difference was that the people in West Germany had the right and freedom to choose and buy the stuff they wanted to. While the people in the east had no right to choose in that dictatorship. There was no selection of anything in communism! i`am more than happy that I grew up in West Germany. And ..eh i got different Evazote mats, too! Are u wondering?
*hole
damn it
I can do that...
Not exactly rocket science.
Thx
Please fix the sound.
Cool video. Please do everyone a favor and get a microphone. The audio is horrible.
+Justin Jones Hi Justin. It is pretty terrible isn't it...this was my first video many years ago and I wasn't the savvy film editor I am now ;) Check out some of my more recent vids; camera and audio has been upgraded many times since this one. Enjoy!
+Suluk46... Very good. I just stumbled upon your channel yesterday. Will check out you other videos for sure. Thanks for the reply.
*hole
Sound is cancer and you say "bond" way too many times
Sounds like someone is jealous! 🤪😂