This deleted scene actually makes the dialogue in Kenobi even more powerful. When Vader says "I am not your Failure, ObiWan" its almost like he's referring directly to this conversation
It would’ve been perfect if they did remake the scene for that show. I guess they couldn’t do it because Filoni said the unfinished clone wars episodes were still canon.
Would’ve been perfect if they had remade this scene in live action in said series, but that would make too much sense. Dave Filoni is the only other person besides George Lucas who understands these characters, don’t know why he wasn’t chosen to run Kenobi and work on Ahsoka later. Lucasfilm loves shooting themselves in the foot at any given opportunity.
@Trey 2x Yes, same meaning but the fact that this conversation happened adds much more depth to his claims that he failed Anakin. And when people say adds a whole new meaning is often hyperbolic and they really mean it has another layer to it.
"I'd like to think that the last thing that went through his head, other than that saber, was to wonder how in the hell Anakin Skywalker became such a disappoinment."
@@whoaskssss, my guy, you must be brand new to the internet, no, you must’ve just come out of your mother’s womb if you don’t know who Morgan Freeman is.
THIS! wish we could put more power into the hands of FANS! They truly deserve it more, that and all the money wasted on these productions by the "big corporations"... That can't even animate a simple scene without $200,000 dollars...
I'm pretty sure it's LucasArts who animates these things. And they chose NOT to do the Utapau arc. It's not like they tried and failed and fans had to "do things properly".
You and Cinematic Captures are the best at these incredible Star Wars animations. Never stop making these masterpieces! I love the Clone Rebellion animation!
Clone wars is literally every character just saying things will turn out just fine then staring at the camera while evil music intensifies and I love it
This scene does such a good job at showing the weaknesses of each character. Anakin is rightfully angry about Ahsoka leaving. But he calls Ahsoka a failure and further internalizes hatred towards the jedi council. Kenobi on the other hand, the one who wanted Anakin to have a padawan, fails to see the bond Anakin and Ahsoka had. He's so detached that he is in denial that any other master could have a strong bond with their padawan. Instead of empathizing with Ahsoka, he gives wise but emotionless advice. He later understand this empathy, but only after suffering through the worst failure he could imagine.
@@nathanchunstudenthbhs8402 Not directly, but he keeps asking Obi-Wan how he would react if he became a disappointment or failure. And I think in some way, Anakin thinks Ahsoka threw away her life. He might be indirect and a bit exaggerate, but we're not exactly dealing with an emotionally well rounded person
Anakin doesn't consider Ahsoka a failure. He's instead angry at the Jedi council for turning their backs on her. Obi-Wan doesn't emphasize with Ahsoka and even accuses her of letting her emotions get the best of her when she left the Jedi Order. Anakin is rightfully mad, and it's Obi-Wan's flaws that are revealed. Obi-Wan later regrets many of his decisions after Anakin turns to the dark side, but of course by then it was too late. Goes to show why the old Jedi Order was seriously flawed.
Obi-Wan didn't fail to see anything, nor he was ''detached''. He was just being philosophical about it and trying to comfort Anakin. You know, we are not responsible for other people's decisions - and that's what Obi-Wan tried to convey here. He tried to say that it's possible to miss her yet accept her decision at the same time, accept that her path might have diverged. Inability to let go is dangerous thing, in real life too. You missed the point.
@@empirestate8791 Yet another one missing the point. Obi-Wan didn't accuse anyone of anything, nor was he emotionless or detached. He was just being philosophical about it and trying to comfort Anakin. You know, we are not responsible for other people's decisions - and that's what Obi-Wan tried to convey here. He tried to say that it's possible to miss her yet accept her decision at the same time, accept that her path might have diverged from theirs. He even admitted that the Council went the wrong way about it AND that he would also suffer should Anakin 'fail' him. However, he was right that Inability to let go and accept someone's choices is a dangerous thing. Many things are beyond our control and we can't fret over everything, that's just the truth of life. He didn't try to suppress Anakin's emotions, he only said that they should not take over him (which they eventually did). You both should wisen up.
@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 You make good points. It just rubs me the wrong way when Kenobi says Anakin failing him wouldn't be the same as Ahsoka leaving.
This scene deserves to be present in the Kenobi show. It would serve as a perfect flashback of the trauma Obi-Wan is going through. Constantly remembering both his and Anakin’s exchange, “How well would you sleep knowing I failed you?” / “Not very well, I imagine. Luckily, that isn’t true, and it never will be”.
I’d honestly prefer Obi-Wan’s traumatic nightmares to be strictly from the events in Revenge of the Sith: the sounds of the fiery explosions of Mustafar, Anakin’s screaming, Obi-Wan expressing his disappointment, etc. all overlapping and building in volume until he wakes up, the sound silences.
Obi wan never thought Anakin failed him. He thought he failed Anakin. It’s all in that line in Revenge of the Sith. “I have failed you Anakin. I have failed you”
looking back it would have been the perfect opening - obi wan falls asleep at the end of this and sees anakin burning etc screaming I hate you, and then wakes up - it was a memory, and that's how it starts. maybe they'll do it for season 2 if they make one?
@@izzysmith105 Season 2 is a possibility bc Kathleen Kennedy said if the fans make noise about wanting S2 then they’ll make it…I hope it happens with even more flashbacks including Hayden.
@@alexsupertramp4907 death in the family, suddenly having to pay tripple taxes to two different governments while receiving nothing for it, getting 50% of my videos copyright claimed and then my grandfather getting lung cancer 👌 thanks for the support but I barely have enough will to live let alone edit videos.
Wow... This completely blew me away, got massive chills at the end when we heard Vader's breath and his theme started to play - fantastic detail! Beautiful work man, as always.
Anakin: "How well would you sleep knowing I failed you?" Obi-Wan: "Not very well I imagine." Obi-Wan: "Luckily, that isn't true, and will never be. That.. hit deep
'To care about another' has always brought Obiwan so much pain at every turn. He cared about his master, Quigon, and felt the pain of losing him. He loved Satine, only to watch her die. He loved Anakin, only to watch him fall. He cared for Ahsoka, only to watch her leave them all behind. Every loss left Obiwan more distant, cold, or depressed than he was before. Throughout the Clone Wars, we see his spirit decline, and he starts to agree more with the jedi council than those closest to him. When Bo-katan asks him for help to liberate Mandalore in CW: Season 7, he states that while he cared about Satine, he could not let his feelings cloud his judgment. To love Satine brought him nothing but pain in the end. Obiwan's aversion to attachments begins to become more apparent in how he disapproves of Anakin's relationship with Padme, how he responds to Bo-katan, and even how he reacts to Ahsoka leaving the order. Obiwan states: "Part of the jedi way is not letting your emotions cloud your judgment. And that's precisely what Ahsoka did." Obiwan believes Ahsoka's decision to leave was because she let her emotions sway her, but fails to recognize that Ahsoka's emotions were justified. Mace tried to justify all the trauma and betrayal Ahsoka went through as her 'great trial' ordained by the force, that it was all 'meant to be.' This did not sit well with Ahsoka, nor should it sit well with anyone. Ahsoka had a right to feel upset, betrayed, etc. by the jedi council. She was not wrong to leave it behind, yet here Obiwan believes she was in error. He recognizes the council handled the situation poorly, that mistakes were made, but does not recognize Ahsoka's feelings were justified. But he also fails to see that it was not her emotions alone that made her leave. She didn't just feel betrayed; she actually had logical reasons why the jedi council was wrong. Only Plo Koon and Anakin apologized to Ahsoka. Not Obiwan. Not Yoda. And certainly not Mace Windu. The council never admitted they were wrong. They raised her; she was one of them. And yet, after all she did for them in the Clone Wars and the Siege of Mandalore, they call her a mere 'citizen' and refuse to tell her what's going on with the chancellor. The council still thinks they were justified. They believe Ahsoka's decision to leave the order was her failing, not theirs. And sadly Obiwan began to adopt their thinking as well. In this video Anakin is right, and proves Obiwan truly did fail him. Obiwan condemns Ahsoka's choice, and yet hypocritically denies it would be the same if such happened with Anakin. Obiwan's world is shattered after the purge because he never came to peace with all that loss in his life, suppressing his emotions instead of dealing with them, and failing to follow Quigon's teachings over that of the council's. Quigon understood that the jedi should be loyal only to the force, not the Republic Senate, and knew that the council wasn't always right. He knew the council was flawed, and after he died Obiwan was constantly pulled between Quigon's teachings and that of the council. Over time, Obiwan gradually comes to adopt more of the council's thinking, and it is a failing. He forgot what Quigon taught him, and the more Obiwan was influenced by the council, the more his relationship with Anakin declined. Every time Obiwan sides with the council, he loses Anakin. He tries to change Anakin instead of trying to understand him, the exact opposite of what Quigon would have wanted. Obiwan wanted Anakin to become a jedi. Quigon wanted Anakin to become a man. To be the best person he could be. The council wanted to define Anakin and have him adhere to the jedi code, even if it meant denying who he truly was. While Anakin's decisions are ultimately his own, the jedi council and Darth Sidious are to blame for Anakin's eventual fall to the darkside. Anakin's attachments did not lead to the darkside; they were the only thing anchoring him to the light. But one by one they all fall away. He loses Ahsoka to the council's arrogance. He loses Obiwan to the council's lies. And he loses Padme because of Sidious spurring his quest for power. He loses everyone else to the purge. Obiwan failed Anakin. The council failed Ahsoka. Unlike Obiwan, Ahsoka does not let her heart harden or turn cold when she faces loss. She lets herself grieve and mourn. She draws closer to those she cares about. She had people like Anakin and Padme to comfort her. She could talk to Anakin, and he would not lecture her as Obiwan would Anakin. Anakin would sympathize with her and help her work through her emotions, not tell her to bury them or suppress them. Ahsoka learned something few jedi ever do. Not to let go of emotion, but to understand it. To work through her feelings and move on with a new sense of hope, conviction, etc. She could properly put the past behind her, while the other jedi simply let it fester within. Never acknowledging how they felt. Losing their ability to empathize with the suffering of another. Until they become as apathetic and stoic as Mace Windu. And so it is no surprise jedi so often become sith. For the sith are the same. They care not for the suffering of others. Their emotions, so long suppressed, are finally released into the darkside, and because they never learned to work through those feelings as a jedi, they take it all out on others in the most destructive ways possible. To love brings pain. But to love saves us all.
Thank you for the philosophical essay. Random but one of the of the things that always gets to me is that at one point just before the purge R2-D2 (in droid speak) says that, "I don't know how he's doing, Anakin never talks to me anymore." The Jedi alienated Anakin to the point where he truly felt & believed he was alone, damn I love this story.
The sad reality is all of those losses were the arrogance of the Jedi. That's the tragedy. The order our beloved characters loved so much is what caused these walk aways, falls, and deaths. "Your arrogance blinds you, Master Yoda."
@@zaccasey2598 It can’t be deleted if it never existed. Deleted to me at least would mean, the episode came out, and this scene was cut from the episode. The episode itself was never technically made since it was never completed.
Hearing Vader’s theme playing and hearing Vader breathe at the end knowing what is to come at the end of Revenge Of The Sith gives me chills and breaks my heart especially when Obi-Wan says “that isn’t true and never will be”
Killer foreshadowing of how he will do the same in much worse ways later. Turning his back on the order like he accuses Ahsoka of doing but with brutal murder instead of heartfelt goodbyes
@@dakodablack7312 Yeah, if you really break it down, even though Anakin and Shmi were considered slaves... they had a house with room for him, her, a workshop for a droid, a kitchen stocked with at least enough food to feed themselves and three strangers, and a backyard with room for a podracer. Anakin mentions Gardulla beat him and/or Shmi, and mentioned Watto was nothing like her. Really, if you look at it with a certain point of view, Watto had two employees in communal housing. Not as horrible a life as other slaves Anakin grew up around.
He even turned his back on his wife, children, and his former Padawan. While the Council's betrayal and corruption is obvious, Anakin's betrayal hits harder because the Council played a major contribution in his descent.
@@dakodablack7312 Harder life? Dude was literally a child slave who was repeatedly beaten as a kid. Anakin has a incredibly tragic story. As much as I love Obi, he definitely didn’t have it harder than Anakin.
Say what you will about the Star Wars fandom, the fact that there are people in this community so dedicated to creating and releasing amazing content about this galaxy and all who inhabit it is really inspiring . Thank you Cinematic Captures for breathing life into this seemingly forgotten bit of a show that is so dear to the hearts of Star Wars fans, and thank you to all creators who take their own time and resources to create things for an online community.
“You took me under your wing and practically raised me” “You were my brother anakin, I loved you” This was too good to be cut from season 7... thank you, Cinematic Captures.
But we got the best and shortest ark ever in clone wars... THE SISTERS! It isn't just the fact that everything got cut away, got deleted, removed to make place for the sister ark(what was the name of the sisters?) It annoys me, the idea of the ark wasn't bad but why in the seven circles of hell WAS THE ARK SO LOOOOOONG! It has become boring and annoying to watch after the first 2 episodes...
Always found it interesting Anakin repeatedly calls Obi-wan the father he never had, while Obi-wan calls him a brother a few times. Its clear they wanted different things out of their bond and that might be one of the reasons they fell apart.
@@adambomber3384 i just say how it is, the sister ark was good but way too Streeeeeetched, so many important and way more interesting things could've been done but well, nope.
@@tevcon317 As soon as he says "luckily that isn't true and never will be" it cuts to Anakin burning in the lava and then him becoming Vader. Then he wakes up on Tatooine while sweating
"What if I disapoint you" "Lucky that will never be" Two months later, the younglings are dead, the Jedi are dead, the Republic is dead, Padme is dead, and Anakin is the biggest disappointment of all
More like the Jedi council were all idiots which did not help. Anikan saw the bad decisions on both sides and got corrupted. The clone wars did a great job showing us that
@@frankinatxr Yes but everyone can't avoid talking about what's happened in star wars just cause you haven't seen it yet. Also just so you know for the future, smh is shaking my head, so smh my head means shaking my head my head. lol
Just imagine how Obi-Wan's first night on Tatooine may have been. There wasn't a Republic to protect anymore. There wasn't a temple that he would call home. There wasn't Anakin. The only thing Obi-Wan had to do is wait endless nights coping with all that guilt and remorse. All those nightmares that nevertheless would only make him stronger. "Look what I have risen above".
He probably collapsed from exhaustion and slept well. It’s the next morning that was probably horrific. He wakes up, confused as to where he is, and then everything comes rushing back.
@@abdullahx4908 Considering Obi wan was having nightmares in the first episode while he was asleep would’ve been a perfect opportunity. Not only that but this scene foreshadows Anakin’s downfall and Anakin literally says “How well would you sleep knowing I failed you?”
@@abdullahx4908Ahsoka has become a staple icon of Star Wars thanks to Clone Wars and for those who don't know her this scene would've peaked interest for the Clone Wars animated series.
Really excited to finally be able to bring you this scene! This was an intense project to pull off for my first time doing facial animation due to the amount of dialogue. It’s not perfect, but I'm really happy with how it turned out! If you wish to help support my time and efforts, consider dropping a sub, share or donation on Patreon: www.patreon.com/Cinematicaptures
@@CinematicCaptures We appreciate your hard work even if its 2 minutes. Its still gonna be awsome (also not a lot of people are not up at 5:00 in the morning where i live. i won't catch it live:-()
@@CinematicCaptures i grew up with her. i watch her so much she's like my sister. lol that might sound weird. seeing her her leave the order had put me in a bad mood that whole day. (i got in trouble)
I like to think that when Obi Wan said “luckily that will never happen” it’s not so much that he’s oblivious to Anakin’s eventual turn, but he’s saying that if Anakin were to turn to the Dark Side, Obi wan would take the blame upon himself, tying in with “I have failed you Anakin, I have failed you”
Oooh! I like that interpretation! I always personally assumed it was more of a denial/"If I deny it forcefully enough, the thing won't happen" kind of response, but I like your interpretation
He was definitely oblivious as he couldn’t even believe that Anakin had turned to the dark side until he saw it himself and that’s when he realized he failed him but at that point he had no idea
@@HONUT I understand where you're coming from, but it is possible to see it from the other angle. Anakin asks how well Obi-Wan could sleep if he failed him, like Ahsoka did Anakin after he fought to prove she was innocent. Obi-Wan says that would never happen because he's the type of person to put the blame on himself, as we see in ROTS, he doesn't blame Anakin, or just Palpatine, he blames himself for failing to protect his student. It really depends on the few words used, so I can see where you're coming from tho.
The double talk in this scene is awesome, Anakin is projecting all his feeling onto Ahsoka because he knows he can’t be honest with Obiwan because of how easily he condemns Ahsoka even though Anakin knows Ahsoka has always been a better Jedi than him. Then he asks how Obiwan would React if he failed him, but Ahsoka didn’t fail Anakin, not once does he think Ahsoka was a disappointment, but it’s what he fears he will become to Obiwan. Obi I love you but how is all of this flying over your head.
It's because of a lack of real world connection to other people, especially once Satine died. This was the fatal flaw of the Jedi Order and because they no real connections outside of the order for non-political reasons, it kept them blind to their flaws. it's why having connections with different kinds of people that you can trust to correct you is so important. It's not necessarily that they were too weak, but instead to quote Luke Skywalker: "Your overconfidence is your weakness." They seemed to see themselves as completely self-sufficient with lines like "Impossible. the Jedi would be aware of it" in reference to Dooku saying a Sith Lord was in their midst and in control of the senate.
The beauty of this scene is it shows the duality of Anakin’s emotions, on one hand he is extremely loyal to those close to him (to the point of trusting Ahsoka over the Council) but on the other hand every offense becomes personal. Notice how he says “disappointment” when he speaks about Ahsoka. He’s deeply hurt, but even though he fully comprehends why she walked away he takes it as a slight to him personally.
Even with Obi-Wan! In AOTC, Anakin doesn't see Obi-Wan's emotional support as *real* support at all - granted, Obi-Wan wasn't the _best_ at giving it, but to Anakin, not offering explicit support (like when Padmé offered to go to Tatooine with him to see his mum) felt like a personal betrayal of sorts. When Padmé asks him to stop killing everyone, that's also a betrayal. When we extend this theme into the OT, it really recontextualises everything for me: Anakin was also Palpatine's loyal doormat until it sunk into him that Palpatine would kill Luke and his daughter, and he felt that as a betrayal too. But most importantly, he realises that he's betrayed the Jedi (by the Jedi, I mean Obi-Wan), his wife, and most importantly his kids. While the original interpretation of Anakin killing Palpatine as an act of love for Luke is still my favourite, the two can coexist, I say! (edit: spelling)
This scene would be amazing if Hayden and Ewan reenact this scene in the Kenobi series. Maybe as an cold open to the very first episode. This would put things into perspective of what came before, and what's to come in the series.
Seeing Hayden and Ewan's face while hearing Matt and James' voice on the same character is something I didn't realise I needed this much until now. Thank you!
If someone think the video is bad just because it's short, just shut up, because u don't know how much work animations like this have just to do 2 minutes; The Anakin's expressions with his dialogue is gold.
“How well would you sleep knowing I failed you” Those words should be echoed in Obi Wan’s head before he has a set of nightmares seeing him fight Anakin and then him waking up in the Obi Wan Kenobi Show
That creeping foreshadowing dread of what hes going to become always gets me. You want him to follow the right path but destiny was already set in stone.
I think part of why Anakin was so mad about this decision is that he knows that as reckless as Ashoka was he’s worse and is projecting his anxiety about the council. And probably fears that if he was ever under suspicion the Council would be just as quick to expel him. Not to mention he probably fears that while he would do anything to help the people he cares about, when the chips are down no one not even Obi Wan would help him. For Anakin it was a betrayal of his best friend and the order he loved as a kid, and part of why Anakin tries to control himself and only channels the darkside when necessary is because of the respect he has for the code and it’s why he has always tried to be better about controlling his emotions. But if the Council can’t be trusted to live up to their own standards then why should he.
Technically from a certain point of view what obi wan said here was correct Anakin never failed him. He failed anakin hence why he says "I have failed u Anakin"
Jesus Christ. The darkness that this foreshadows. Knowing Anakin and what he will become. Every time Anakin gets angry in the Clone Wars and in the prequel trilogy, it just foreshadows what we all know is going to happen.
@@mathisntmybestsubject8440 They're probably artificially lowering the quality of certain shows in order to deliver an increasingly interesting ending. Take anything Filoni has done and study it. He starts slow and purposefully annoys the fans and then delivers gut wrenching endings. He is a story teller, can't always lead with the best.
Ahoska did not let her emotions cloud her judgment. She left the order because she was lost and confused. The Council betrayed her and left her to hang even though she was innocent. None of them stood by her and defended her other then Anakin. That hurt her deeply. She question the wisdom and role of the Jedi. She was starting to see the flaws in the Order and why it was failing. When She meets up with Martez sisters she found the true calling of the Jedi. She stumbled on to what a Jedi was truly supposed to be. As one of the sister later points out to her that she may not be a jedi but she still acts like one or how she would wanted them to be. Ashoka found a people who genuinely needed help and she helped them. She let the force Guide her actions for the first time and in so doing so found the path of a true Jedi. People underestimate the Martez story line. The irony is that Ashoka found true calling of a Jedi and let the force guide her and in so doing the force lead her to the truth of everything that was going on. It goes to show had the Jedi not allowed the code and politics to dictate their actions and relied on the force then they would have put all the piece of the puzzle together long before it was to late and could have prevented what had befallen them.
Yeah, this scene is emotionally compelling, but it raises too many questions. Anakin knows exactly why Ahsoka left, he told her himself that he understood, so why is he putting on this act for Obi-Wan? Why does Obi-Wan think Ahsoka was her letting her emotions cloud her judgement when she left? Is he trying to convince Anakin or himself?
The Martez Sisters arc has an important place in Ahsoka's timeline and delivers what it needs to in order to progress her character, but I still think the story it tells in execution isn't very good
@@notthedroidsyourelookingfo4026 That lust for power became dangerously intense towards the end of his transformation at the hands of Palpatine however. In the beginning, he was just a poor kid from Tatooine who wanted to right the wrongs of the galaxy...
@@Crusty_Old_Wastelander Sounds like "The road to hell is paved with... maybe good intentions at first, but then some impatience, and then, if you get corrupted, finally definitely some bad intentions". More realistic, but admittedly less catchy.
It's a testament to the power of the voice acting that it carries over so well. It feels like I'm watching The Clone Wars, even though I'm very obviously not watching The Clone Wars.
Man, you can tell how hurt and betrayed Anakin feels. And Obi Wan, instead of really calming Anakin down, tried to justify the jedi. And this in turn, subtly fueled Anakin's dark side.
I love how Obi-Wan’s hubris actually shows here. Ahsoka was literally the only one not letting her emotions cloud her judgment. Every single Jedi aside from Anakin wrongly turned on her. She realized the Jedi were sucky, and her decision to leave is what kept her alive in the end. The Jedi fell from that hubris Obi-Wan touts here.
Well...Yes but also No. Ahsoka definitely let her emotions cloud her judgment. In fact, it was the main conclusion of the whole arc. She felt betrayed by the Jedi order, by the people who took her in, raised her and cared for her. She thought that they trusted her but in the moment a shiver of doubt appeared, they all decided to cast away their feelings and only look at the evidences (evidences that were pointing out to Ahsoka). The order did what they were preaching. For better or worse, they completely thrown away their emotions in Ahsoka's trial and made an unbiased decision based on the evidences they had (the fact that the evidences were planted and wrong is a different thing, they couldn't have known). After everything was resolved through her own actions, the Jedi order didn't shown a lot of remorse for what has happened (because from their point of view, they acted accordingly to their teachings) and that hurt Ahsoka even more. She once again felt like she couldn't trust them anymore. How can you call the Jedi order your family, if neither you or your family, trust each other. So ... yeah. The order's decisions and way of acting made Ahsoka lose her trust in them and feel betrayed (because they cast aside their emotions) and this resulted in Ahsoka leaving the Jedi Order (because she FELT betrayed and that she couldn't trust them anymore). And Yes, Ahsoka realized how flawed their system is (that completely shutting down your emotions and looking at things from only 1 point of view is as bad as completely letting your emotions guide you).
@@assassinsknight yeah but that's what, 2 out of all the master? at best 3 that voted against. the idea is that the order failed her by passing the vote.
I think the council just rubbed off on him. Yoda, Mace, Ki-Adi, the main leaders of the council were all so ignorant and blind. And Obi-Wan being on the council clouded his beliefs. Yoda only began to start seeing how stupid they all were near the very end. Honestly the only council member who wasn’t an arrogant, self-righteous twat was Plo Koon.
I would absolutely love if something like this scene was the opening to the Obi-Wan Kenobi series. Especially the part at 1:29. Then, Obi-Wan wakes up in a cold sweat, realizing he’s just camping in a cave in the Tatooine night.
I still don’t understand why tf they didn’t keep this emotionally this is a golden moment and really shows how much trust Obi-wan had in Anakin and how much it really affected him when Anakin turned to the dark side I hope that they explore this side of things more in the Kenobi series thank you for animating this!!! I wish I could like this a billion times!
The issue is primarily that aside from this great scene, the rest of the arc doesn’t offer much to the overall story of Clone wars. This is a Remarkable scene, it’s just part of an arc that doesn’t contribute much. But it’s not difficult to assume that this Arc and many other unfinished ones would later on be made into mini-movies.
The Council didn't have a choice tbf, all the evidence pointed towards Ahsoka and as part of their duty to the Republic, they were obligated to turn her over for a trial. Tarkin had their hands tied.
@@ericjiang8948 I'm talking about more than that. The fact that the Council let the Senate control their actions ever since the beginning of the Phantom Menace and way before that, was the reason it was like it was from the beginning.
@@talon532 I do agree tying the Senate to the Order directly was a flaw, but nonetheless, that system still worked for thousands of years on end. That's bound to cause complacency, why change something that isn't broken? The Sith were the ones who had to adapt, and it took the greatest Sith Lord of all time to exploit that flaw. Palpatine was the cancer, the Jedi were never inherently wrong in their methods imo. It's obviously not all black and white, and they did "lose their way" to an extent over the years, but I digress.
@@ericjiang8948 The Jedi never were supposed to tie themselves to the Senate as dictated by the Lore itself. They let what the people said about them change their views and their minds slowly over time to the point where every move they made had to be approved by the Senate when they, in fact, were supposed to make their own decisions. You don't have to respond to this, but I'm just typing out my thoughts atm.
“How would you sleep? Knowing I failed you?” “Not very well I imagine, but luckily that's not true, and never will be” **Darth Vader's theme playing in the background**
here after kenobi teaser,,, god i really have high hopes for this series, and the possibility of getting a scene that depicts this conversation thrills me
I remember the skepticism Clone Wars was met with when it first came out, but it’s honestly the best thing to happen to Star Wars. Scenes like this really paint how tragic Anakin’s fall was, and how much Obi-Wan truly loved him in ways the Movies never could...
This scene is heavy. His relationship with Ahsoka is so interesting that you can add her to the list of people you'd wonder if they'd stop his turn to the dark. Like seriously....if Ahsoka stays does he turn. Does he go with her to Mandalore because she is his apprentice or does nothing change at all.
Either the mandos never find Ahsoka or the mandos plead for help and the trio respond, only for the chancellor to be kidnapped and split up, sending Ahsoka to Mandalore. However Ahsoka might have had an easier time reaching Anakin as she would be still a jedi and not just a “CiTizEN” Or maybe would have relayed that Anakin is part of Palpy’s grand scheme. Which Mace might have revealed to Anakin which would have mentally prepared him for the temptation that led him to killing Mace Windu. Or, more likely, Anakin wouldn’t have been told and events play out like they do in the movie.
@@damobeck1 And if the events happen as they did with her remaining, there is a chance she would have been in a different position than she was at the end of the additional season Disney did, which could have led to her death. Granted, Disney made that season and threw out some pre-established lore. That alone means Ahsoka could have been somewhere else, however if the Disney canon is to be taken fully into account, then she still had a good chance of being where she was. And if she died, then there would be a decent sized ripple that would change the whole Rebels plot, meaning Rex would have needed to be found another way. Without Rex the rebels would have a harder time even establishing, making episodes 4-6 very different (or not different at all). That's ignoring her role in the Mandalorian and anything else I missed, I'm no star wars nerd.
yeah I also like to think she could have stopped her. But I also belive that Qui Gon was born to stop him. Like that was what the force wanned him to do but in dual of the fates the universes fate was turned dark. Thats what I love about star wars. One critical moment to actively decide over the whole galaxis fate for dozens of years to come
@@navas.s9321 I'm not sure she could have stopped him. In my eyes, on of if not THE reason he defected was for Padmè. Ahsoka may not have been able to stop him.
We could use Palpatines schemes as a clue aswell. During the duel over Coruscant it seems the plan was to seperate Obi-wan and anakin. To bring anger out of him but also from his words "leave him behind or we'll never make it" he wants him gone, because he feels Obi-wan is somebody he cares for. Palpatine wants him to lose his closest people in order to piss him off furthur making the turn easier and faster. With this being said it's completely possible that Palpatine might order attempts on Ahsokas life in an alternate universe. Maybe she dies. He turns even faster. Cool little stuff to think about.
"What if I failed you?"
"Luckily that isn't true and never will be."
That didn't age well
But know this. Obi-wan never felt that Anakin had failed him. Rather, he would live for years thinking he had failed Anakin.
@@kingcamelot1395 Yeah, he had to live with that fatal mistake to not save Anakin. That's why Anakin just had a *BURNING* bloodlust for him.
@@kingcamelot1395 also Obiwan probably full of unforgivable regret for not killing him cause of what he became next
That's so saaaad 😭😭😭
Neither did Obi Wan lol
"What if I failed you?"
"Luckily that isn't true and never will be"
*Vader theme: hello there*
"I have failed you Anakin."
Anakin cant fail Obi Wan if he fails him 1st.
Vader: LOL BITCH SEE YOU SOON
Imperial March
@@allo4614 that's literally is his theme it's just slowed down in that part
@@dionelmejia8093 yeah he was just saying what it was called
The moment Darth Vader's theme was played gave me goosebumps
you could even hear his breathing
@@Rasakson at 1.56 :-)... but I believe Obi-Wans statement will become a reality and Anakin would never dissapoint him...
that's what it supposed to do
Like heck it did
@@chrisbo5288 Well at the end anakin didn't disappoint after killing the emperor xD.
This deleted scene actually makes the dialogue in Kenobi even more powerful.
When Vader says "I am not your Failure, ObiWan" its almost like he's referring directly to this conversation
and obi wan saying “i have failed you”
While I doubt that was the writer's intention it can certainly be viewed as such since this is technically canon
It would’ve been perfect if they did remake the scene for that show. I guess they couldn’t do it because Filoni said the unfinished clone wars episodes were still canon.
Kenobi is a garbage series.
Would’ve been perfect if they had remade this scene in live action in said series, but that would make too much sense. Dave Filoni is the only other person besides George Lucas who understands these characters, don’t know why he wasn’t chosen to run Kenobi and work on Ahsoka later. Lucasfilm loves shooting themselves in the foot at any given opportunity.
This brings a whole new meaning to Obi-Wan saying "I have failed you, Anakin. I have failed you."
Oh my god 😭😭
Agreed
@Trey 2x Yes, same meaning but the fact that this conversation happened adds much more depth to his claims that he failed Anakin. And when people say adds a whole new meaning is often hyperbolic and they really mean it has another layer to it.
*Morgan Freeman* : "As it turned out, Anakin became, in fact, quite a major disappointment."
"I'd like to think that the last thing that went through his head, other than that saber, was to wonder how in the hell Anakin Skywalker became such a disappoinment."
@@whoaskssss an actor
@@FancyNCR NEVER HEARD OF A MORGAN FREEMAN
@@whoaskssss, my guy, you must be brand new to the internet, no, you must’ve just come out of your mother’s womb if you don’t know who Morgan Freeman is.
@@whoaskssss watch the dark knight trilogy rn
The Vader Theme at the end.... 🔥
Tell me you're a casual fan without telling me you're a casual fan:
ayy wolffe! how is the filming of ewokhunt going? - Trek
@@sithlord7m bro what? You’re trying to much
And the breathing too.
I hate your videos.
Disney: Doesn't fully animate this scene for season 7
Fans: Well, if you want something done properly...
Fans: (stick hand in Infinity Gauntlet) “we’ll do it ourselves.”
@@mathisntmybestsubject8440 I LOVE THAT
THIS! wish we could put more power into the hands of FANS!
They truly deserve it more, that and all the money wasted on these productions by the "big corporations"...
That can't even animate a simple scene without $200,000 dollars...
I'm pretty sure it's LucasArts who animates these things. And they chose NOT to do the Utapau arc. It's not like they tried and failed and fans had to "do things properly".
this is better, because they actually look like hayden and ewan
4K Heartbreak
why you gotta do me like this man
Oh- uhhh, hello!
Omg loacher your my favorite animator bro
Hello there
You and Cinematic Captures are the best at these incredible Star Wars animations. Never stop making these masterpieces! I love the Clone Rebellion animation!
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!
Clone wars is literally every character just saying things will turn out just fine then staring at the camera while evil music intensifies and I love it
“Good thing those bugs can’t aim!”
BOOM!
Couldn't have described better
Nicholas Damiani has a whole series of videos showing exactly this, it's hillarious
Exactly
@Josh I kind of think he subconsciously knows Anakin is unstable and there is a huge risk but he cannot bring himself to say it
From "I miss her, okay?" to "then you will die" ...so saaad
Anakin lost everything in his life, only his force powers and force abilities improved and grew, That is sad.
We better get Ahsoka meeting Anakin as a Force Ghost...
@@thomasrosendahl2783 power and status without people to share it with is meaningless
@@themedicus3432 it will be hard for Anakin, to explain all the horrible things he did as Darth Vader before Luke turned him back to the light.
@@thomasrosendahl2783 And that's part of why I want to see it. I don't think Ahsoka will forgive him.
This scene does such a good job at showing the weaknesses of each character. Anakin is rightfully angry about Ahsoka leaving. But he calls Ahsoka a failure and further internalizes hatred towards the jedi council. Kenobi on the other hand, the one who wanted Anakin to have a padawan, fails to see the bond Anakin and Ahsoka had. He's so detached that he is in denial that any other master could have a strong bond with their padawan. Instead of empathizing with Ahsoka, he gives wise but emotionless advice. He later understand this empathy, but only after suffering through the worst failure he could imagine.
@@nathanchunstudenthbhs8402 Not directly, but he keeps asking Obi-Wan how he would react if he became a disappointment or failure. And I think in some way, Anakin thinks Ahsoka threw away her life. He might be indirect and a bit exaggerate, but we're not exactly dealing with an emotionally well rounded person
Anakin doesn't consider Ahsoka a failure. He's instead angry at the Jedi council for turning their backs on her. Obi-Wan doesn't emphasize with Ahsoka and even accuses her of letting her emotions get the best of her when she left the Jedi Order. Anakin is rightfully mad, and it's Obi-Wan's flaws that are revealed. Obi-Wan later regrets many of his decisions after Anakin turns to the dark side, but of course by then it was too late. Goes to show why the old Jedi Order was seriously flawed.
Obi-Wan didn't fail to see anything, nor he was ''detached''. He was just being philosophical about it and trying to comfort Anakin. You know, we are not responsible for other people's decisions - and that's what Obi-Wan tried to convey here. He tried to say that it's possible to miss her yet accept her decision at the same time, accept that her path might have diverged. Inability to let go is dangerous thing, in real life too. You missed the point.
@@empirestate8791 Yet another one missing the point. Obi-Wan didn't accuse anyone of anything, nor was he emotionless or detached. He was just being philosophical about it and trying to comfort Anakin. You know, we are not responsible for other people's decisions - and that's what Obi-Wan tried to convey here. He tried to say that it's possible to miss her yet accept her decision at the same time, accept that her path might have diverged from theirs. He even admitted that the Council went the wrong way about it AND that he would also suffer should Anakin 'fail' him. However, he was right that Inability to let go and accept someone's choices is a dangerous thing. Many things are beyond our control and we can't fret over everything, that's just the truth of life. He didn't try to suppress Anakin's emotions, he only said that they should not take over him (which they eventually did). You both should wisen up.
@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 You make good points. It just rubs me the wrong way when Kenobi says Anakin failing him wouldn't be the same as Ahsoka leaving.
"How well would you sleep knowing I had failed you"
"Not very well I imagine"
The Obi-Wan series better reference this!
I will cry
I’ve long said it should be the first scene in the pilot! A dream to set up Obi’s depression.
That hit hard
That hit me right in the feels
@@SFisher1993 Yes! This scene would be perfect for a flashback for the first episode
This scene deserves to be present in the Kenobi show. It would serve as a perfect flashback of the trauma Obi-Wan is going through. Constantly remembering both his and Anakin’s exchange, “How well would you sleep knowing I failed you?” / “Not very well, I imagine. Luckily, that isn’t true, and it never will be”.
this is a perfect opening for the kenobi show. when the scene ends, we get to see obiwan trying to sleep in the dark of tatooine
@@7empestx841 Thanks, now my expectations are even higher.
@@melkorsheir fr :/
I’d honestly prefer Obi-Wan’s traumatic nightmares to be strictly from the events in Revenge of the Sith: the sounds of the fiery explosions of Mustafar, Anakin’s screaming, Obi-Wan expressing his disappointment, etc. all overlapping and building in volume until he wakes up, the sound silences.
@@EricGraham94 Look up "Obi-Wan has PTSD", has a very similar feel to what you describe here.
Obi wan never thought Anakin failed him. He thought he failed Anakin. It’s all in that line in Revenge of the Sith. “I have failed you Anakin. I have failed you”
@mandak kart
Indeed, Anakin needed a father not a brother. Which is why it makes RotS and Qui-Gon's death even more tragic.
@mandak kart "You were my brother, Anakin! I loved you."
So basically he's a hypocrite because he took responsibility for Anakin's decision.
And he was right.
God, Star Wars fans are always looking for a way to blame someone other than Anakin for their own decision
"Luckily, that isn't true... and never will be."
**slow, drawn out 'Imperial March' plays in the background**
THE WAY THIS MADE MY HEART FEEL-
Heart breaking
I cackled
It means Anakin was never a dissappointment
And Vader's breathing is heard as well.
I've been looking forward to this
My powers have double since the last time we met, Count.
@@HypnotiZeYTGood. Twice the pride, double the fall.
This is where the fun begins
Good. Twice the lolipops, double the cavaties
Sammmeeee💯
10/10 This is incredible
AMOG us
11/10
Hey youre the guy from the E polls
I teared up a little for how amazing the graphics and speech work together. This scene should have been in either Episode 3 or CWs.
I was gonna say the exact same thing
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First reply. Hello there Mr. Theory
What say we hit up that Boba/Cad Bane scene next? I think it would be appropriate...
Disney: General Star Wars Theory. You ARE a bold one. *Insert evil Laugh* Kill him.
Hello good sir
@CT-6969 aka Taquero Mamon That’s...good news.
It’s criminal that this never came up in the Obi-Wan show!
i’m so sad that they didn’t put it 😢
looking back it would have been the perfect opening - obi wan falls asleep at the end of this and sees anakin burning etc screaming I hate you, and then wakes up - it was a memory, and that's how it starts. maybe they'll do it for season 2 if they make one?
@@izzysmith105 Season 2 is a possibility bc Kathleen Kennedy said if the fans make noise about wanting S2 then they’ll make it…I hope it happens with even more flashbacks including Hayden.
Oh same, I would have loved for this to have been a flashback!
Perhaps it will be put in the Ashoka seriesss
"Oh it's beautiful"
Right??
Bombastic mod sheev ?
Hmmm
Wut you are here
"Not very well I imagine. Luckily, that isn't true, and never will be."
*Excuse me while I go cry.*
@cookie kingdom obi wan never met shmi though
@cookie kingdom where did you get this info from; book or comic. I'm actually curious.
Damn now I wish we had the whole Utapau arc like this 😮 this was amazing guys!
Me too and hopefully one day it will happen.
Mate, your channel is dead. What happened?
@@alexsupertramp4907 death in the family, suddenly having to pay tripple taxes to two different governments while receiving nothing for it, getting 50% of my videos copyright claimed and then my grandfather getting lung cancer 👌 thanks for the support but I barely have enough will to live let alone edit videos.
@@TheScoundrelsCantina Hope you'll be okay! 👍
For real!! One of the coolest fan animations ever period!
I'm sorry but the way Matt Lanter delivered the line, "She's one of us.." is absolutely BRILLIANT.
Wow... This completely blew me away, got massive chills at the end when we heard Vader's breath and his theme started to play - fantastic detail!
Beautiful work man, as always.
Bro same
YOOOO IS THAT THE OFFICIAL TERRASTONE????
Liiiiiit
Same man
Same here
Obiwan: Luckily that isn't true, and never will be.
*Vader theme plays*
Obiwan to sound guy: That wasn't very hopeful
So uncivilized.
execute order 66
@@crazilynoobz yes, Lord Sidious.
@@crazilynoobz It will be done, my lord...
Anakin: "How well would you sleep knowing I failed you?"
Obi-Wan: "Not very well I imagine."
Obi-Wan: "Luckily, that isn't true, and will never be.
That.. hit deep
That hits me where I live
yeah and right after he said it the theme came on 😫😫😭
That must be why he said "I failed you anakin"
@@lesalondesinconnus1869 I don't think my reply went through, or it was removed for whatever reason. Nice Robot Chicken Darth Vader reference.
Yes, and then Vader’s theme starts playing
'To care about another' has always brought Obiwan so much pain at every turn. He cared about his master, Quigon, and felt the pain of losing him. He loved Satine, only to watch her die. He loved Anakin, only to watch him fall. He cared for Ahsoka, only to watch her leave them all behind. Every loss left Obiwan more distant, cold, or depressed than he was before. Throughout the Clone Wars, we see his spirit decline, and he starts to agree more with the jedi council than those closest to him. When Bo-katan asks him for help to liberate Mandalore in CW: Season 7, he states that while he cared about Satine, he could not let his feelings cloud his judgment. To love Satine brought him nothing but pain in the end. Obiwan's aversion to attachments begins to become more apparent in how he disapproves of Anakin's relationship with Padme, how he responds to Bo-katan, and even how he reacts to Ahsoka leaving the order. Obiwan states: "Part of the jedi way is not letting your emotions cloud your judgment. And that's precisely what Ahsoka did." Obiwan believes Ahsoka's decision to leave was because she let her emotions sway her, but fails to recognize that Ahsoka's emotions were justified. Mace tried to justify all the trauma and betrayal Ahsoka went through as her 'great trial' ordained by the force, that it was all 'meant to be.' This did not sit well with Ahsoka, nor should it sit well with anyone. Ahsoka had a right to feel upset, betrayed, etc. by the jedi council. She was not wrong to leave it behind, yet here Obiwan believes she was in error. He recognizes the council handled the situation poorly, that mistakes were made, but does not recognize Ahsoka's feelings were justified. But he also fails to see that it was not her emotions alone that made her leave. She didn't just feel betrayed; she actually had logical reasons why the jedi council was wrong. Only Plo Koon and Anakin apologized to Ahsoka. Not Obiwan. Not Yoda. And certainly not Mace Windu. The council never admitted they were wrong. They raised her; she was one of them. And yet, after all she did for them in the Clone Wars and the Siege of Mandalore, they call her a mere 'citizen' and refuse to tell her what's going on with the chancellor. The council still thinks they were justified. They believe Ahsoka's decision to leave the order was her failing, not theirs. And sadly Obiwan began to adopt their thinking as well. In this video Anakin is right, and proves Obiwan truly did fail him. Obiwan condemns Ahsoka's choice, and yet hypocritically denies it would be the same if such happened with Anakin. Obiwan's world is shattered after the purge because he never came to peace with all that loss in his life, suppressing his emotions instead of dealing with them, and failing to follow Quigon's teachings over that of the council's. Quigon understood that the jedi should be loyal only to the force, not the Republic Senate, and knew that the council wasn't always right. He knew the council was flawed, and after he died Obiwan was constantly pulled between Quigon's teachings and that of the council. Over time, Obiwan gradually comes to adopt more of the council's thinking, and it is a failing. He forgot what Quigon taught him, and the more Obiwan was influenced by the council, the more his relationship with Anakin declined. Every time Obiwan sides with the council, he loses Anakin. He tries to change Anakin instead of trying to understand him, the exact opposite of what Quigon would have wanted. Obiwan wanted Anakin to become a jedi. Quigon wanted Anakin to become a man. To be the best person he could be. The council wanted to define Anakin and have him adhere to the jedi code, even if it meant denying who he truly was. While Anakin's decisions are ultimately his own, the jedi council and Darth Sidious are to blame for Anakin's eventual fall to the darkside. Anakin's attachments did not lead to the darkside; they were the only thing anchoring him to the light. But one by one they all fall away. He loses Ahsoka to the council's arrogance. He loses Obiwan to the council's lies. And he loses Padme because of Sidious spurring his quest for power. He loses everyone else to the purge. Obiwan failed Anakin. The council failed Ahsoka. Unlike Obiwan, Ahsoka does not let her heart harden or turn cold when she faces loss. She lets herself grieve and mourn. She draws closer to those she cares about. She had people like Anakin and Padme to comfort her. She could talk to Anakin, and he would not lecture her as Obiwan would Anakin. Anakin would sympathize with her and help her work through her emotions, not tell her to bury them or suppress them. Ahsoka learned something few jedi ever do. Not to let go of emotion, but to understand it. To work through her feelings and move on with a new sense of hope, conviction, etc. She could properly put the past behind her, while the other jedi simply let it fester within. Never acknowledging how they felt. Losing their ability to empathize with the suffering of another. Until they become as apathetic and stoic as Mace Windu. And so it is no surprise jedi so often become sith. For the sith are the same. They care not for the suffering of others. Their emotions, so long suppressed, are finally released into the darkside, and because they never learned to work through those feelings as a jedi, they take it all out on others in the most destructive ways possible. To love brings pain. But to love saves us all.
You’re absolutely right. The earlier part about Kenobi is spot on. How does this comment not have more likes?
This is one of the best analysis I've ever seen. Everything is so true Jedi philosophy is the reason why jedi turn sith
Thank you for the philosophical essay. Random but one of the of the things that always gets to me is that at one point just before the purge R2-D2 (in droid speak) says that, "I don't know how he's doing, Anakin never talks to me anymore." The Jedi alienated Anakin to the point where he truly felt & believed he was alone, damn I love this story.
The sad reality is all of those losses were the arrogance of the Jedi. That's the tragedy. The order our beloved characters loved so much is what caused these walk aways, falls, and deaths.
"Your arrogance blinds you, Master Yoda."
@@someguy9070 Likely because its a wall of text. But its a good post. Just needs a few breaks.
The fact this was done by fans just out of the love for Star Wars is incredible.
The fact they deleted this scene is also incredible
@@disguisedcentennial835 it wasn’t technically deleted. The original shows run got cancelled and this episode was sadly never finished because of it.
@@CinematicExperiences so it was deleted....
@@zaccasey2598 It can’t be deleted if it never existed. Deleted to me at least would mean, the episode came out, and this scene was cut from the episode. The episode itself was never technically made since it was never completed.
@@CinematicExperiences deleted scenes mean that they were started in production, but never put in the show, like this scene, and a bunch of movies
“Luckily that isn’t true...and never will be.”
I’M NOT CRYING! YOU’RE CRYING!
That part got me too lol.
Especially when Darth Vader’s theme starts playing afterward
@@ichangedmyusernamebecausei2551 And you could hear His breathing
“How would you feel if I failed you?”
“Not very good I imagine. Lucky that isn’t true, and it never will be.”
Top 10 lines said before disaster...
well obi wan says he failed anakin, not the other way around so i guess in a way obi wan is saying the truth here.
@@billeisenhauer9556 from a certain point of view
Hearing Vader’s theme playing and hearing Vader breathe at the end knowing what is to come at the end of Revenge Of The Sith gives me chills and breaks my heart especially when Obi-Wan says “that isn’t true and never will be”
The moment he says "the council turned their back on her" he ironically turns his back on his friend, mentor and brother
Killer foreshadowing of how he will do the same in much worse ways later. Turning his back on the order like he accuses Ahsoka of doing but with brutal murder instead of heartfelt goodbyes
I really don’t understand how ppl reasoned with him and said he was justified obi wan had a harder life than he did but he didn’t murder kids
@@dakodablack7312 Yeah, if you really break it down, even though Anakin and Shmi were considered slaves... they had a house with room for him, her, a workshop for a droid, a kitchen stocked with at least enough food to feed themselves and three strangers, and a backyard with room for a podracer.
Anakin mentions Gardulla beat him and/or Shmi, and mentioned Watto was nothing like her.
Really, if you look at it with a certain point of view, Watto had two employees in communal housing. Not as horrible a life as other slaves Anakin grew up around.
He even turned his back on his wife, children, and his former Padawan. While the Council's betrayal and corruption is obvious, Anakin's betrayal hits harder because the Council played a major contribution in his descent.
@@dakodablack7312 Harder life? Dude was literally a child slave who was repeatedly beaten as a kid. Anakin has a incredibly tragic story.
As much as I love Obi, he definitely didn’t have it harder than Anakin.
Now this! This is pod racing!
I'll try spinning, that's a good trick!
Wouuh
That’s not the quote but okay lol
No it's not
Ryan George 😂😂🤣🤣
Say what you will about the Star Wars fandom, the fact that there are people in this community so dedicated to creating and releasing amazing content about this galaxy and all who inhabit it is really inspiring . Thank you Cinematic Captures for breathing life into this seemingly forgotten bit of a show that is so dear to the hearts of Star Wars fans, and thank you to all creators who take their own time and resources to create things for an online community.
The fact that the sw fandom can be the most toxic and the most creative is amazing
People like him are preventing this fandom to become the worst fandom ever
@@luulasmene7786 it's like poetry, it rhymes
@@anoriginalname2544 😁😁😁
@@nikojanatuinen631 exactly
I can’t believe this scene was deleted. It provides even more context for Anakins turn to the dark.
Not deleted, unfinished. DISNEY canceled the show before this could air.
“You took me under your wing and practically raised me”
“You were my brother anakin, I loved you”
This was too good to be cut from season 7... thank you, Cinematic Captures.
But we got the best and shortest ark ever in clone wars... THE SISTERS!
It isn't just the fact that everything got cut away, got deleted, removed to make place for the sister ark(what was the name of the sisters?) It annoys me, the idea of the ark wasn't bad but why in the seven circles of hell WAS THE ARK SO LOOOOOONG! It has become boring and annoying to watch after the first 2 episodes...
Always found it interesting Anakin repeatedly calls Obi-wan the father he never had, while Obi-wan calls him a brother a few times. Its clear they wanted different things out of their bond and that might be one of the reasons they fell apart.
@@MeisterSchwabbo it's entirely possible to compliment one thing without beating down on another thing
@@adambomber3384 i just say how it is, the sister ark was good but way too Streeeeeetched, so many important and way more interesting things could've been done but well, nope.
@@provisionalhypothesis yup, everyone knows... the force is female...
If this isn't the opening scene to the Obi-Wan show, then I will declare it a huge missed opportunity
Same here
And then we see him waking up in the same position on tatooine because he can't sleep well anymore
@@tevcon317 As soon as he says "luckily that isn't true and never will be" it cuts to Anakin burning in the lava and then him becoming Vader. Then he wakes up on Tatooine while sweating
@@clasher138 I really hope that happens.
@@tevcon317 Same
I love the way Anakin is standing in the same pose during his final conversation with Obi-Wan before their duel in ROTS. Impressive, most impressive.
Nice catch
Imagine how much BETTER this scene would've made the Kenobi series if it was made as the first scene in the series...
Just like poetry, it rhymes.
"Luckily that isn't true, and never will be"
*Imperial march starts playing with an asmatic breathing softly*
*HMMMMMMMMMMM*
X to doubt
@@gamebearing5764 xxxxxxxx
"What if I disapoint you"
"Lucky that will never be"
Two months later, the younglings are dead, the Jedi are dead, the Republic is dead, Padme is dead, and Anakin is the biggest disappointment of all
dude, spoiler alert /s
More like the Jedi council were all idiots which did not help. Anikan saw the bad decisions on both sides and got corrupted. The clone wars did a great job showing us that
@@BigSky5578 The movie has been out for 16 years, think we're beyond spoilers.
Spoilers! I haven't watched the movie yet smh my head
@@frankinatxr Yes but everyone can't avoid talking about what's happened in star wars just cause you haven't seen it yet. Also just so you know for the future, smh is shaking my head, so smh my head means shaking my head my head. lol
Just imagine how Obi-Wan's first night on Tatooine may have been. There wasn't a Republic to protect anymore. There wasn't a temple that he would call home. There wasn't Anakin. The only thing Obi-Wan had to do is wait endless nights coping with all that guilt and remorse. All those nightmares that nevertheless would only make him stronger. "Look what I have risen above".
He probably collapsed from exhaustion and slept well. It’s the next morning that was probably horrific. He wakes up, confused as to where he is, and then everything comes rushing back.
I hope they start the series EXACTLY at that moment
this hurts
Then, at least for the moment, the first thing he sees from his old life is Maul showing up to kill him
Can't wait to see this visualized in the TV show.
Kenobi just released its finale and I seriously can’t believe they didn’t put this scene in the series…such a missed opportunity.
How would it be relevant
@@abdullahx4908 Considering Obi wan was having nightmares in the first episode while he was asleep would’ve been a perfect opportunity. Not only that but this scene foreshadows Anakin’s downfall and Anakin literally says “How well would you sleep knowing I failed you?”
@@dindjarin4009 but most people don’t know about ahsoka
@@abdullahx4908Ahsoka has become a staple icon of Star Wars thanks to Clone Wars and for those who don't know her this scene would've peaked interest for the Clone Wars animated series.
Well since this scene is not officially in the Clone Wars series, I think it makes it harder to include in the Kenobi Show...
Really excited to finally be able to bring you this scene! This was an intense project to pull off for my first time doing facial animation due to the amount of dialogue. It’s not perfect, but I'm really happy with how it turned out! If you wish to help support my time and efforts, consider dropping a sub, share or donation on Patreon: www.patreon.com/Cinematicaptures
@Mathias Roegiers The scene is only 2 minutes long, unfortunately 2 minutes takes a long time to produce with body & facial animation.
@@CinematicCaptures We appreciate your hard work even if its 2 minutes. Its still gonna be awsome
(also not a lot of people are not up at 5:00 in the morning where i live. i won't catch it live:-()
@@jacobengstrom8753 It'll be ready for you when you wake up!
@@CinematicCaptures well you probably see i am a big fan of Ahsoka(my profile picture)
@@CinematicCaptures i grew up with her. i watch her so much she's like my sister. lol that might sound weird. seeing her her leave the order had put me in a bad mood that whole day. (i got in trouble)
I like to think that when Obi Wan said “luckily that will never happen” it’s not so much that he’s oblivious to Anakin’s eventual turn, but he’s saying that if Anakin were to turn to the Dark Side, Obi wan would take the blame upon himself, tying in with “I have failed you Anakin, I have failed you”
Oooh! I like that interpretation!
I always personally assumed it was more of a denial/"If I deny it forcefully enough, the thing won't happen" kind of response, but I like your interpretation
No, he was very oblivious and to think he wasn’t is laughable.
He was definitely oblivious as he couldn’t even believe that Anakin had turned to the dark side until he saw it himself and that’s when he realized he failed him but at that point he had no idea
What does "taking the blame" have to do with "luckily that will never happen" The former doesn't alter or change the latter.
@@HONUT I understand where you're coming from, but it is possible to see it from the other angle.
Anakin asks how well Obi-Wan could sleep if he failed him, like Ahsoka did Anakin after he fought to prove she was innocent. Obi-Wan says that would never happen because he's the type of person to put the blame on himself, as we see in ROTS, he doesn't blame Anakin, or just Palpatine, he blames himself for failing to protect his student.
It really depends on the few words used, so I can see where you're coming from tho.
The double talk in this scene is awesome, Anakin is projecting all his feeling onto Ahsoka because he knows he can’t be honest with Obiwan because of how easily he condemns Ahsoka even though Anakin knows Ahsoka has always been a better Jedi than him. Then he asks how Obiwan would React if he failed him, but Ahsoka didn’t fail Anakin, not once does he think Ahsoka was a disappointment, but it’s what he fears he will become to Obiwan.
Obi I love you but how is all of this flying over your head.
I think you've hit the nail on the head
It's because of a lack of real world connection to other people, especially once Satine died. This was the fatal flaw of the Jedi Order and because they no real connections outside of the order for non-political reasons, it kept them blind to their flaws. it's why having connections with different kinds of people that you can trust to correct you is so important. It's not necessarily that they were too weak, but instead to quote Luke Skywalker: "Your overconfidence is your weakness."
They seemed to see themselves as completely self-sufficient with lines like "Impossible. the Jedi would be aware of it" in reference to Dooku saying a Sith Lord was in their midst and in control of the senate.
Anakin didn’t fail Ahsoka when she left. He felt Ahsoka leaving because of the Council not standing by her was a failure to him.
The beauty of this scene is it shows the duality of Anakin’s emotions, on one hand he is extremely loyal to those close to him (to the point of trusting Ahsoka over the Council) but on the other hand every offense becomes personal. Notice how he says “disappointment” when he speaks about Ahsoka. He’s deeply hurt, but even though he fully comprehends why she walked away he takes it as a slight to him personally.
Even with Obi-Wan! In AOTC, Anakin doesn't see Obi-Wan's emotional support as *real* support at all - granted, Obi-Wan wasn't the _best_ at giving it, but to Anakin, not offering explicit support (like when Padmé offered to go to Tatooine with him to see his mum) felt like a personal betrayal of sorts. When Padmé asks him to stop killing everyone, that's also a betrayal. When we extend this theme into the OT, it really recontextualises everything for me: Anakin was also Palpatine's loyal doormat until it sunk into him that Palpatine would kill Luke and his daughter, and he felt that as a betrayal too. But most importantly, he realises that he's betrayed the Jedi (by the Jedi, I mean Obi-Wan), his wife, and most importantly his kids.
While the original interpretation of Anakin killing Palpatine as an act of love for Luke is still my favourite, the two can coexist, I say!
(edit: spelling)
This scene would be amazing if Hayden and Ewan reenact this scene in the Kenobi series. Maybe as an cold open to the very first episode. This would put things into perspective of what came before, and what's to come in the series.
I really hope that too
yeah like a dream or flash back
Totally, that would be beautiful
YOOO id lo v e that
Agreed. Hope to god we get some Clone Wars flashbacks and see there armor in live action at long last.
Seeing Hayden and Ewan's face while hearing Matt and James' voice on the same character is something I didn't realise I needed this much until now. Thank you!
"Luckily that isn't true... and never will be."
Palpatine: Wanna bet?
Do it!
If someone think the video is bad just because it's short, just shut up, because u don't know how much work animations like this have just to do 2 minutes;
The Anakin's expressions with his dialogue is gold.
I'm going to appreciate this piece of work, I agree with you there.
“How well would you sleep knowing I failed you”
Those words should be echoed in Obi Wan’s head before he has a set of nightmares seeing him fight Anakin and then him waking up in the Obi Wan Kenobi Show
Obi wan saying he won’t sleep well is so cool- it gives a real glimpse on how sad he was after anakin betrayed
"How would you sleep knowing I failed you?" After these words I am hell more excited about kenobi series.
Incredible work! The environment is beautiful! I can only imagine how much work this took.
Appreciate the kind words my friend!
@@CinematicCaptures So how long did this take you?
@@Phatooine Around 3-4 months
@@CinematicCaptures can you please do more of recreating the clone wars into 4K? Idc which scenes but it must be done!
@@CinematicCaptures
Is it possible to learn this power?
That creeping foreshadowing dread of what hes going to become always gets me. You want him to follow the right path but destiny was already set in stone.
Imagine if a chapter of Kenobi series start with this scene
yooooooooooo that would be cool
That would be too sick
Duuuuuuuuuude!!
imagine people who only watched the films wonder who the fuck is ashoka
I hope so. It was a real shame that the arc that included this scene never made it to final production.
I think part of why Anakin was so mad about this decision is that he knows that as reckless as Ashoka was he’s worse and is projecting his anxiety about the council. And probably fears that if he was ever under suspicion the Council would be just as quick to expel him. Not to mention he probably fears that while he would do anything to help the people he cares about, when the chips are down no one not even Obi Wan would help him. For Anakin it was a betrayal of his best friend and the order he loved as a kid, and part of why Anakin tries to control himself and only channels the darkside when necessary is because of the respect he has for the code and it’s why he has always tried to be better about controlling his emotions. But if the Council can’t be trusted to live up to their own standards then why should he.
This scene really shows how much Obi Wan loved both Anakin and Ahsoka. Dude always was playing the big brother card.
He is most definitely the older brother more than a father.
« Luckily that isn’t true, and it will never will be »
*a few weeks later *
«i have failed you.. »
actually it was 4 months from this up to order 66
@@shawnhutchinson479 well its still a number of weeks later...
... from certain point of view...
Technically from a certain point of view what obi wan said here was correct Anakin never failed him. He failed anakin hence why he says "I have failed u Anakin"
BRAVO! Wow that was amazing!!
Jesus Christ. The darkness that this foreshadows. Knowing Anakin and what he will become. Every time Anakin gets angry in the Clone Wars and in the prequel trilogy, it just foreshadows what we all know is going to happen.
“Luckily, that isn’t true, and never will be.”
*VADER BREATHING INTENSIFIES*
Sooo good
It's funny how I keep seeing you pop up in the comments of so many videos I'm watching! How you doing, Ryan?
YOOOOOO
woah ryan!!!
Didn’t expect to see you here
It is a masterpiece. Complete. Comprehensive
I understood that reference
It encapsulates the Jedi experience.
@@meekles.8464 Wha- he's outta line but he's right
It captures the complete Hayden Christensen experience.
1:44
This could easily transition into obi wan sleeping in exile on tattoine in the kenobi series
If the Kenobi series doesn’t open with a scene recreating this I don’t know what they’re thinking
I don’t know what they’re thinking *now* but point taken.
For Real.
@@mathisntmybestsubject8440 They're probably artificially lowering the quality of certain shows in order to deliver an increasingly interesting ending.
Take anything Filoni has done and study it. He starts slow and purposefully annoys the fans and then delivers gut wrenching endings. He is a story teller, can't always lead with the best.
@@Crusader143d Good idea! I might put that to good use should I make my own Star Wars fanfiction story.
it will open with the cyber vespas!
Anakin:"What if I failed you"
Obi-Wan:"Luckily that isn't true and never will be"
_Vader Theme Plays_
"He has long been groomed for his role as my masters apprentice"
Darth maul
Siege of Mandolore
"You lie."
@@mygeeto im afraid not
Ahoska did not let her emotions cloud her judgment. She left the order because she was lost and confused. The Council betrayed her and left her to hang even though she was innocent. None of them stood by her and defended her other then Anakin. That hurt her deeply. She question the wisdom and role of the Jedi. She was starting to see the flaws in the Order and why it was failing.
When She meets up with Martez sisters she found the true calling of the Jedi. She stumbled on to what a Jedi was truly supposed to be. As one of the sister later points out to her that she may not be a jedi but she still acts like one or how she would wanted them to be. Ashoka found a people who genuinely needed help and she helped them. She let the force Guide her actions for the first time and in so doing so found the path of a true Jedi.
People underestimate the Martez story line. The irony is that Ashoka found true calling of a Jedi and let the force guide her and in so doing the force lead her to the truth of everything that was going on. It goes to show had the Jedi not allowed the code and politics to dictate their actions and relied on the force then they would have put all the piece of the puzzle together long before it was to late and could have prevented what had befallen them.
Yeah, this scene is emotionally compelling, but it raises too many questions. Anakin knows exactly why Ahsoka left, he told her himself that he understood, so why is he putting on this act for Obi-Wan? Why does Obi-Wan think Ahsoka was her letting her emotions cloud her judgement when she left? Is he trying to convince Anakin or himself?
Qui-Gon, Ahsoka, Kanan and Luke were true Jedi. They were what a Jedi was always supposed to be.
ever notice how most the big hero jedi are technically grey jedi, usign both sides of the force to various degress.
The Martez Sisters arc has an important place in Ahsoka's timeline and delivers what it needs to in order to progress her character, but I still think the story it tells in execution isn't very good
Amazing analysis
we prequel fans love when our hearts are utterly broken. eternally grateful for this bro
“luckily that isn’t true and never will be” got me chills
Oh was he wrong
@@alexmercer5414 from his point of view, no. He thinks that he failed Anakin
It's Such a well-written scene. It's insane they never used it for the final series.
@@_someguynamedtony_1024 From the certain point of view! * Violin in a background
Same
''that is not true, and never will be.''
*Han steps into frame*
''i got a bad feeling about this!''
Ah it's just your imagination kid
If I see a flashback to this scene during the Obi Wan show I am gonna cry. It literally fits so perfectly
Yes
YES
Aaand they blew it
@@ElPresidenteMargz …I’ve always hated Disney, always. Never liked them. Fuck Disney forever
Tears were not shed.
Anakin:"What if I failed you"
Obi-Wan:"Luckily that isn't true and never will be"
_Heavy Artificial Breathing_
"I'm sorry Anakin. I failed you"
/Sobbing/
Anakin's story can be summed up as "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
Not *only* good intentions though. Without his lust for power, I doubt that he would have immediately gone into youngling slaughter mode.
@@notthedroidsyourelookingfo4026 That lust for power became dangerously intense towards the end of his transformation at the hands of Palpatine however. In the beginning, he was just a poor kid from Tatooine who wanted to right the wrongs of the galaxy...
@@Crusty_Old_Wastelander True. Just saying, if his intentions were good until the end, the road wouldn't have led to hell.
@@notthedroidsyourelookingfo4026 I hear you man. But life has a way of eroding a man's patience and all, you know?
@@Crusty_Old_Wastelander Sounds like "The road to hell is paved with... maybe good intentions at first, but then some impatience, and then, if you get corrupted, finally definitely some bad intentions". More realistic, but admittedly less catchy.
Ngl obi wan almost looks like ewan is actually acting this, that’s how real it is
Yeah, They use the models from the Battlefront II game, which are very movie accurate
It's a testament to the power of the voice acting that it carries over so well. It feels like I'm watching The Clone Wars, even though I'm very obviously not watching The Clone Wars.
You are watching the Clone Wars, just with incomplete animation.
Man, you can tell how hurt and betrayed Anakin feels. And Obi Wan, instead of really calming Anakin down, tried to justify the jedi. And this in turn, subtly fueled Anakin's dark side.
Which shows you why Anakin was always right about them and how they share the fault for order 66
@@barcabocalda2583 the one thing i hate about the Jedi, is that they really lost their way. Qui-gon in my eyes was truly a jedi.
@@Grim_Kherac qui gon was the only true Jedi.
@@Grim_Kherac true Qui Gun was the definition of the true Jedi way
I really hope that Dave Filoni, Matt Lanter, James Arnold Taylor, Hayden Christensen and Ewan McGregor all see this. OMG. This is so amazing.
And George Lucas too.
And then Disney copystrikes this
@@TraceguyRune 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
Matt Lanter has!
@@Anaradist Link?
This is awesome. Seeing Hayden’s face speak with Matt’s voice is so cool. They’re like two different characters
It's like that in battlefront 2!
I wish they tried to sound more like hayden it drives me crazy lol
@@thecount2094 Hayden actually sounds like Matt in real life
@@BurntPlaydoh yeah I’m hoping he uses more of his natural charisma for his voice in kenobi if they do these flashbacks
@Trey 2x lol
It’s always the scenes with some of the best potential that they cut
Anakin standing with his back turned to obi wan, framed exactly like it was on mustafar was a nice touch
“Luckily that isn’t true... and will never be.”
Those words hit differently after watching ROTS
😥
"I have failed you, Anakin... I have failed you". That right there, is even sadder now
@@NemesisC81 yes! This scene just made that line much sadder and hits us harder
I love how Obi-Wan’s hubris actually shows here. Ahsoka was literally the only one not letting her emotions cloud her judgment. Every single Jedi aside from Anakin wrongly turned on her. She realized the Jedi were sucky, and her decision to leave is what kept her alive in the end.
The Jedi fell from that hubris Obi-Wan touts here.
Well...Yes but also No. Ahsoka definitely let her emotions cloud her judgment. In fact, it was the main conclusion of the whole arc. She felt betrayed by the Jedi order, by the people who took her in, raised her and cared for her. She thought that they trusted her but in the moment a shiver of doubt appeared, they all decided to cast away their feelings and only look at the evidences (evidences that were pointing out to Ahsoka).
The order did what they were preaching. For better or worse, they completely thrown away their emotions in Ahsoka's trial and made an unbiased decision based on the evidences they had (the fact that the evidences were planted and wrong is a different thing, they couldn't have known).
After everything was resolved through her own actions, the Jedi order didn't shown a lot of remorse for what has happened (because from their point of view, they acted accordingly to their teachings) and that hurt Ahsoka even more. She once again felt like she couldn't trust them anymore. How can you call the Jedi order your family, if neither you or your family, trust each other.
So ... yeah. The order's decisions and way of acting made Ahsoka lose her trust in them and feel betrayed (because they cast aside their emotions) and this resulted in Ahsoka leaving the Jedi Order (because she FELT betrayed and that she couldn't trust them anymore). And Yes, Ahsoka realized how flawed their system is (that completely shutting down your emotions and looking at things from only 1 point of view is as bad as completely letting your emotions guide you).
I don’t think Obi-wan was in favor expelling her from the order. I think he actually voted against it.
@@assassinsknight yeah but that's what, 2 out of all the master? at best 3 that voted against.
the idea is that the order failed her by passing the vote.
Obi-Wan defended her too, and was the only Council member to actually apologize when she was found innocent.
I think the council just rubbed off on him. Yoda, Mace, Ki-Adi, the main leaders of the council were all so ignorant and blind. And Obi-Wan being on the council clouded his beliefs. Yoda only began to start seeing how stupid they all were near the very end.
Honestly the only council member who wasn’t an arrogant, self-righteous twat was Plo Koon.
I would absolutely love if something like this scene was the opening to the Obi-Wan Kenobi series. Especially the part at 1:29. Then, Obi-Wan wakes up in a cold sweat, realizing he’s just camping in a cave in the Tatooine night.
They fumbled it 😢
Wow this came out so good! 🔥
Came out better than food out the oven
I love uuuu
Nice seeing you here
I still don’t understand why tf they didn’t keep this emotionally this is a golden moment and really shows how much trust Obi-wan had in Anakin and how much it really affected him when Anakin turned to the dark side I hope that they explore this side of things more in the Kenobi series thank you for animating this!!! I wish I could like this a billion times!
The issue is primarily that aside from this great scene, the rest of the arc doesn’t offer much to the overall story of Clone wars. This is a Remarkable scene, it’s just part of an arc that doesn’t contribute much.
But it’s not difficult to assume that this Arc and many other unfinished ones would later on be made into mini-movies.
If that opens the Obi-Wan Kenobi show I believe I am going to cry before even Hayden and Ewan start this conversation
"Ahsoka let her emotions cloud her judgement."
Yeah well the Council let politics cloud theirs.
Preach
The Council didn't have a choice tbf, all the evidence pointed towards Ahsoka and as part of their duty to the Republic, they were obligated to turn her over for a trial. Tarkin had their hands tied.
@@ericjiang8948 I'm talking about more than that. The fact that the Council let the Senate control their actions ever since the beginning of the Phantom Menace and way before that, was the reason it was like it was from the beginning.
@@talon532 I do agree tying the Senate to the Order directly was a flaw, but nonetheless, that system still worked for thousands of years on end. That's bound to cause complacency, why change something that isn't broken? The Sith were the ones who had to adapt, and it took the greatest Sith Lord of all time to exploit that flaw.
Palpatine was the cancer, the Jedi were never inherently wrong in their methods imo. It's obviously not all black and white, and they did "lose their way" to an extent over the years, but I digress.
@@ericjiang8948 The Jedi never were supposed to tie themselves to the Senate as dictated by the Lore itself. They let what the people said about them change their views and their minds slowly over time to the point where every move they made had to be approved by the Senate when they, in fact, were supposed to make their own decisions.
You don't have to respond to this, but I'm just typing out my thoughts atm.
This is amazing holy
muito bemmmm
Yeah, an unfinished Clone Wars episode.
“How would you sleep? Knowing I failed you?”
“Not very well I imagine, but luckily that's not true, and never will be”
**Darth Vader's theme playing in the background**
That hits deep lol
You missed the breathing.
That statement aged like milk
@@lightinferno4490 damn
here after kenobi teaser,,, god i really have high hopes for this series, and the possibility of getting a scene that depicts this conversation thrills me
As Baron Zemo said:"It is a masterpiece. Complete. Comprehensive. It captures the Fandom experience of The Clone Wars".
He's out of line, but he's right!
I remember the skepticism Clone Wars was met with when it first came out, but it’s honestly the best thing to happen to Star Wars. Scenes like this really paint how tragic Anakin’s fall was, and how much Obi-Wan truly loved him in ways the Movies never could...
They should re made this scene in live action in obi wan series. OMG IT WOULD BE SO EPIC
I love this. Like a deleted scene to Episode III. This should've been featured in ROTS. It could've fit within the "Spy on the Chancellor" scene...
bruh this is way after lao Ahsoka didnt exist when episode 3 came out....
Came out amazing!
This scene is heavy. His relationship with Ahsoka is so interesting that you can add her to the list of people you'd wonder if they'd stop his turn to the dark. Like seriously....if Ahsoka stays does he turn. Does he go with her to Mandalore because she is his apprentice or does nothing change at all.
Either the mandos never find Ahsoka or the mandos plead for help and the trio respond, only for the chancellor to be kidnapped and split up, sending Ahsoka to Mandalore.
However Ahsoka might have had an easier time reaching Anakin as she would be still a jedi and not just a “CiTizEN”
Or maybe would have relayed that Anakin is part of Palpy’s grand scheme. Which Mace might have revealed to Anakin which would have mentally prepared him for the temptation that led him to killing Mace Windu.
Or, more likely, Anakin wouldn’t have been told and events play out like they do in the movie.
@@damobeck1 And if the events happen as they did with her remaining, there is a chance she would have been in a different position than she was at the end of the additional season Disney did, which could have led to her death. Granted, Disney made that season and threw out some pre-established lore. That alone means Ahsoka could have been somewhere else, however if the Disney canon is to be taken fully into account, then she still had a good chance of being where she was. And if she died, then there would be a decent sized ripple that would change the whole Rebels plot, meaning Rex would have needed to be found another way. Without Rex the rebels would have a harder time even establishing, making episodes 4-6 very different (or not different at all). That's ignoring her role in the Mandalorian and anything else I missed, I'm no star wars nerd.
yeah I also like to think she could have stopped her. But I also belive that Qui Gon was born to stop him. Like that was what the force wanned him to do but in dual of the fates the universes fate was turned dark. Thats what I love about star wars. One critical moment to actively decide over the whole galaxis fate for dozens of years to come
@@navas.s9321 I'm not sure she could have stopped him. In my eyes, on of if not THE reason he defected was for Padmè. Ahsoka may not have been able to stop him.
We could use Palpatines schemes as a clue aswell. During the duel over Coruscant it seems the plan was to seperate Obi-wan and anakin. To bring anger out of him but also from his words "leave him behind or we'll never make it" he wants him gone, because he feels Obi-wan is somebody he cares for. Palpatine wants him to lose his closest people in order to piss him off furthur making the turn easier and faster. With this being said it's completely possible that Palpatine might order attempts on Ahsokas life in an alternate universe. Maybe she dies. He turns even faster. Cool little stuff to think about.