Why Is This Star Wars Remaster So EXPENSIVE?!
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Star Wars: Dark Forces is getting a REMASTER tomorrow, however it may be little (lot) more EXPENSIVE than everyone expected....
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The price point would’ve been a lot easier to swallow if it was packaged with the 2nd game, like they’re doing with battlefront 1 and 2.
I’ll still buy it because I have such fond memories of playing it on the ps1 but its price is really steep for what you get.
100% agree with you
I appreciate that it’s a niche sort of thing and they’ve put a lot of work into to it so need to change that much perhaps to make it profitable for them to make it. I played this game when I was young too and have a soft spot for it. Simply, I’ll definitely get it but just wait until it’s on sale 🙂 I’d also wait to see if they do a physical release, as with this sort of price is more of a collectors thing I feel
Game still isn’t listed in it comes out today, kinda weird if you ask me…
I've seen the interviews with Nightdive. This game was VERY hard for them to remaster because of all the weird choices Lucasarts made while developing it, like creating their version of multi threading years before it became a thing.
The fact that they were able to remake all the graphics, and get the game working natively modern systems, with modern controls is an impressive feat. Nightdive deserves to be fairly compensated for all their hard work, because this wasn't just some simple port!
And the game plays beautifully! They managed to make the game look like my nostalgia-goggles remember it--better in fact! Because I played the original recently, and it really looked bad. Even The Force Engine couldn't improve it this much.
So again, ignore the complaints. This Herculean achievement in remastering such a legendary game is worth every penny!
That's very interesting! Didn't know it was this hard remastering it.
Then why does the force engine and empire engine do 99% of what their remaster does and it is free to download?
Dark Forces for MS-Dos was one of my earliest games. Excited to see it back, but $30 seems like it’ll really limit the sales.
And its doubly weird because Nightdive are usually really fair with pricing their games. I mean they released their full on remake of System Shock, wich was stuck in development Hell, for 40 dollars. And their remasters of Quake are just 10 dollars each. Only reason for the DF price that I can think of is maybe Disney just fucked them with the price for the Star Wars IP. They own Lucas Arts after all.
Licensing cost.
Disney was and is still increasing the price of their park tickets, etc. to offset the massive losses on box office and licensed merchandise revenue.
I, like many others, am done with the company for a multitude of reasons.
The general consumers aren't going to take up the slack, so the licensees end up taking a calculated risk. The publisher's high price/low effort for the 87,384 (or whatever) people the developer has calculated will blindly buy this product will probably net a guaranteed profit.
When an IP has only the superfans left in its fanbase, the investment/return 100% becomes playing the margins.
I didn't expect an answer so in detail, I am amazed! Thanks for putting the time to write this!
@@GalaxyGamer27 No problem!
Anything Disney licenses the Star Wars name out to is gonna cost an arm and a leg.
That said, DF is an excellent shooter and hails from a high point for Lucasarts. It’s worth it - to me - but I can imagine the price is going to scare away anyone that didn’t grow up with this or the hardcore 90s shooter fan.
I'm going to try it pretty soon, didn't get to today. I'm pretty excited!
compared to Tomb Raider 1-3 and SW: Battlefront that is coming out, this is overpriced.
Yep
I really don’t get this controvercy. We’ve all been spoiled with $5 games or Freeware games for decades. I get that. But $30 is literally a bank overdraft fee. It’s two Wendy’s combo meals. If you want the game, go get it. If you don’t want it, don’t buy it. Even children are wise enough to focus on what they want instead of how this game’s price compares with other games.
Mods do everything the remaster does and they are free. lol
Man I love Nightdive studios. They brought back Turok 1,2 &3 which I all got but this is a bit of a steep ask still.
Yeah, I'd rather buy 2 remastered Battlefronts than one single very old game
yes@@GalaxyGamer27
I understand that a remaster is huge work for a developer. And because it is a Star Wars-brand makes it this price. I'm ready to spend this money + you get one bonus mission.
Nightdive do great work, but every time it is overpriced. Turok 3 was ridiculous. Look what Aspyr did with TR 1 through 3. 3 games and 30 bucks, well on pc idk what it is on consoles.
Actually Republic Commando was not a remaster, that was just a port
Oh, you're 100% right. Sorry, that's a mistake on my part!
the visuals were slightly improved
They put a lot of work into it and who knows what Disney is pulling behind the scenes. Owning the original Im waiting for a substantial 80% steam sale.
A sale would make this game perfect
Super NES games were $70 which was 30 years ago
Bought it on my PS5, tbh it should have been $15 not $30 this was my first Star Wars game when I was kid they know they could charge any price and people will buy it cuz of nostalgia
I also bought it on my PS5, and I kind of feel like 30 dollars is wayyy too much. However, you get to play what others considered to be the game of their childhoods. So, I guess there are pros and cons to it...
Totally agree its very over priced by about £10 even thow I am a big fan of this original game I would never pay this amount.
$70.00 is expensive? Where I live it is completely normal to have a base edition of any new game that comes out to be $103 sometimes $150. I would kill for a game to be $70 now.
Fair point
There is no reason games need to cost $70! They are literally no different then what they have been! Stop giving them excuses for gouging us!
One word: Inflation.
The more money the government prints, the less that money is worth
@troopcaptain I know what inflation is. And inflation is horrible. (Thanks, biden), but inflation has gone up for years, decades, but game prices have never gone up. The devs are using that as an excuse to raise the price of games. They are lying to us. If that was the real reason, then that would imply that inflation hasn't gone up since the 90s because the price of games hasn't gone up until now. The real reason is n because the devs are greedy, and they would charge $100 pet game if they thought they could get away with it.
@troopcaptain I know what inflation is. That's just an excuse these devs use to justify it. They are lying to us. Inflation has gone up multiple times for decades, and game prices have never gone up until now. That is just an excuse. The real reason the game prices have gone up is that the devs are greedy. They would charge $100 per game if they thought they could get away with it. If inflation was the reason, then that would imply inflation never went up since the 90s because the price of games would have gone up years ago if that was the real reason. It's a lie. There is zero justification for the cost of games to be $70.
Love the original, but $30 is too expensive for a remaster. 'Quake' remaster (also by Nightdive) was only $10.
True
- A lot of work went into it
- They have to share revenue between the storefronts, Lucasfilm, Raven Software, and themselves
- Games don't get made for free
@kidnamedfinger2625 speak for yourself lmao
I am not saying games are made for free, I'm just saying the price seems a little steep. I'm also going to buy it but still
15 Bucks in GOG and includes the non-mastered version....
It's Star Wars tax.. pure and simple. I enjoyed the game back when it came out.. but I don't give a sh*t about Star Wars, so I stuck to Doom after finishing Dark Forces and never played it again. I would have bought this for half the asking price for pure nostalgia reasons.. but £25 is taking the piss. It will be on a Steam sale soon, so I might get it then.
$30 is fair imo for the time you'd spend playing it, remaster or not. I mean on the other hand it could have been free (or what? $20? $10?) on all platforms, the devs don't need to eat or pay their bills right?
I was not saying they should make it free. I was only saying the price may seem a little high
They can use a.i. for much of the heavy lifting, that way the companies can make games for cheaper without sacrificing quality, everyone can keep their jobs and consumers won't have to pay as much
In the case of the Battlefront Classic collection, there's actual evidence they used AI on updating the graphics.
@@GalaxyGamer27 when a.i. can get better I honestly think it can be best for everyone involved, even shareholders
Waiting for a sale saving my money for battlefront collection
Good strategy, although its going to take some time
Because we're dumb and bought it any way
Awesome video man, you made a lot of great points! I’ll be waiting for it to go on sale on Nintendo’s Eshop. I personally don’t feel the need to play it asap, so might as well save some 💰👍
Good strategy! Also thanks for your support!!!
30 Dollars isn't THAT bad. Especially given how bad things could be. Republic Commando's Remaster is stuck on consoles, meaning it doesn't have to compete with the PC Sales from Steam and GOG.
Also, the original engine was NOT the KEX Engine, but the Jedi engine. The KEX Engine is NightDive's in-house engine built for remastering games.
Thanks for the correction on the KEX Engine, didn't know that was the case
I think 30 Euro is a fair price. This is a very beloved game that they lovingly updated for modern gaming systems. This looks like a project of pure passion and love by the devs. I would happily buy a price like this for a project that actually seems like it's made by people that care.
Fair point! This Remaster gives people like me who've never played it before the chance to do it for the first time.
Bruh, "that's kind of it" stop it.
i didn't buy it i've got The force engine installed.
bro, alot of misinformations
Thank you for this. 30$ is a utter INSULT.
Inflation is a thing. Video games have always Cost $50. Especially first party titles like mario, zelda, sonic, etc. So we haven't (gotten to a place where games cost $60/70 (idr what price you said because I just finished the video) and if anything, due to inflation, games have gotten cheaper, and if you include all of the indie titles out there, MUCH cheaper.
But there are some video games that cost 70 dollars at launch, like Jedi: Survivor or all of Playstation's exclusives
Anddddd im still buying it.
Cant wait for the online 😎
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So they charge 30 bucks for essentially what looks like a doom 2 mod.
Pretty much😅😅😅
try looking up or down in Doom
@@philipchurch8772yeah I can. Most source ports allow you to do that. Especially gzdoom which has the biggest mod support. You can even put in actual 3d models in that one. Look up doom total chaos mod. That is I think great example of what gzdoom can do.
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Am I butchering that? Because it seems normal to me when I say it😆😆😆
so youre the one who sold me fent 3 days ago