Range Rover SV P510e Hybrid review. It's the ultimate Range Rover but this PHEV disappoints

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  • Опубликовано: 1 дек 2024

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  • @arthurdardalis
    @arthurdardalis Год назад +268

    It looks great, just thinking how many of these gizmos will be operational in 5 years and the cost to replace them…

    • @emekaossai5485
      @emekaossai5485 Год назад +12

      All of them. It’s only 5 years 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @Win7ermu7e
      @Win7ermu7e Год назад +12

      @@dizzy2020 Anyone who takes a Range Rover past it's warranty to a dealer is an idiot. I'm on my second L405 with third party warranty, and I have a mechanic who works strictly on UK vehicles.

    • @ron8975
      @ron8975 Год назад +27

      @@dizzy2020 As a 28 year veteran of repairing Range Rovers, these are my favorite... Always broken and making the tech money.

    • @monkeybarmonkeyman
      @monkeybarmonkeyman Год назад +7

      You'll typically roll it over at the end of its 3 year lease so it won't matter 🙂

    • @martinmcdonald4207
      @martinmcdonald4207 Год назад +6

      They don`t age well, that`s a given. Be prepared to spend when it all starts to fall apart.

  • @Kelveron
    @Kelveron Год назад +751

    Practically three tonnes!! What's going on with the world? How can vehicles like this be considered green and benefit from tax breaks?

    • @dair919
      @dair919 Год назад +52

      Agreed. I need someone to make it make sense

    • @supaG-1.0
      @supaG-1.0 Год назад +126

      Don't expect it to make sense, it's politics.

    • @Fioravanti.80
      @Fioravanti.80 Год назад +158

      Ditto. The World is full of contradictions. Drivers are not allowed to hold a mobile phone when driving - for good reasons - yet manufacturers are permitted to produce cars with central touch screens with a multitude of fuctions which have been demonstrated through research, to be as distracting... Go figure! 😂

    • @blackjacket_
      @blackjacket_ Год назад +87

      Low hoodline and popup headlights are unsafe. But 3 tonn barn on 4 wheels with flat front is somehow safer 😂

    • @fredastair3338
      @fredastair3338 Год назад

      Nothing makes sense all things you and I buy cause pollution and exploitation and cause flora and fauna to go extinct so what we gonna do

  • @davidvivian596
    @davidvivian596 Год назад +210

    I agree about the SV badge on the tailgate. It may be ceramic, but it just looks like a paper/plastic stick on thingy - like a Halfords GB plate. Also, it's white - yuk. IMO, this is a significant error on a very expensive car which should not have escaped the quality sign-off people at LR.

    • @davecom3
      @davecom3 Год назад +6

      I don't think there is much quality control at LR. Their customers don't care. They can't get them out of the factory quick enough.

    • @nickp1989
      @nickp1989 Год назад +8

      They need to get Harry to critique the car before production.

    • @SilentRacer911
      @SilentRacer911 Год назад +3

      Completely agree, it would be MUCH nicer in black AND go with the theme of the car. I wonder how hard it is to remove?

    • @carlstanland5333
      @carlstanland5333 Год назад +5

      Reminds me of a sticker on an orange or an apple.

    • @adzy166
      @adzy166 Год назад

      @@carlstanland5333 or those Apple computer stickers beloved of reps in Audis

  • @componick6393
    @componick6393 Год назад +219

    Less is more with Range Rovers, always has been. The more you spend the more naff it gets.

    • @martinmcdonald4207
      @martinmcdonald4207 Год назад +17

      And the more stuff that breaks.

    • @skimmingstoness
      @skimmingstoness Год назад +6

      Spending more gets you the same dodgy electrics and unreliability

    • @Electricdreams21
      @Electricdreams21 Год назад +1

      ​@@skimmingstoness it's a shame because if you have the money they are really nice looking cars

    • @a9503128
      @a9503128 Год назад +9

      25 electric motors and 10 computers and sleeplessness nights when out of warranty

    • @levelcrossing150
      @levelcrossing150 Год назад +1

      I used to be proud of selling these during the 1970's, I can't see that now.

  • @eastbaystreet1242
    @eastbaystreet1242 Год назад +13

    You just made my day, Harry, by saying the P350 makes the most sense for THIS car. I have the 340hp HSE Sport and it is perfect. It isn't fast, but it isn't slow. I wouldn't race anyone anyway in a car this big - though, as you said, I can lean pretty hard into turns with no roll if I am feeling zippy. The lighter weight and shorter length of the Sport make it the perfect (highly usable) cruiser for me.

  • @malcolmlane-ley2044
    @malcolmlane-ley2044 Год назад +42

    Interesting point about not being able to get comfy with all the seat adjustment options; I have an L405 Autobiography and I think it took me the best part of 4 months to find the optimum driving position because they are just 'too' adjustable and I've used the massage function about 5 times. You can have too many gizmo's.

  • @ethanthomas68
    @ethanthomas68 Год назад +15

    Another practical and unbiased review. Thanks

  • @michaelyounes29
    @michaelyounes29 Год назад +93

    The battery bulge under the car is a design sin.

    • @Lanxe
      @Lanxe Год назад +1

      Agreed. The door sill really needed to be designed to cover it.

    • @viktorlenart1125
      @viktorlenart1125 Год назад +5

      Must be great for off-roadibility as well. Not like many of these plug-in hybrid models will ever see any off-road, but hey

    • @joetacchino4470
      @joetacchino4470 Год назад

      Almost as bad as BMW M exhaust back box "saggy diapers".

    • @spacemanclips
      @spacemanclips Год назад +1

      @@viktorlenart1125 Scraping the battery pack probably means the car is written off too.

    • @martinmcdonald4207
      @martinmcdonald4207 Год назад

      Cheap lazy design. Tata...for nothing. The car could go down the same road as the legendary XJ unless someone comes in and turns this demise around.

  • @maximilianholland
    @maximilianholland Год назад +27

    Thanks Harry. Would be interested to see a quick test of its off-road chops in electric-only mode. A calm and quiet way to get around the farm?

  • @jamesellsworth9673
    @jamesellsworth9673 Год назад +3

    Yours is a fine channel to keep up to date with the automobile world!

  • @bruncebanani8854
    @bruncebanani8854 Год назад +92

    I can't believe how cramped the rear seats look in this enormous car. It must have been a real challenge to make the interiour so small, in a 5 m plus car.

    • @ssing7113
      @ssing7113 Год назад +6

      It’s not enormous. I’ve seen in person and believe it’s the size of the old Range Rover sport. They made it smaller for sure.

    • @costafilh0
      @costafilh0 Год назад +1

      It's almost shaped as a pyramid when you look from behind. Probably for efficiency. It could be more boxy and have more interior room.

    • @MrRaitzi
      @MrRaitzi Год назад +1

      Bonnet is half of the car

    • @TSERJI
      @TSERJI Год назад

      @@costafilh0 I believe they refrained from making it more boxy because they knew that this car needed to be designed from the outset to be EV-compatible. Since EV's have are more efficient than gas/diesel cars at converting stored energy into usable energy (90% compared to just 30%), they're also more fickle to the effects of aerodynamics. Look at it this way -- if you add a spoiler to a gas car that causes a 10% increase of drag on the car, the car's energy efficiency changes from 30% to 27% (the range of the gas car only decreases by 3%). Add that same spoiler on an EV though, and its energy efficiency goes from 90% to 81% (the range of the EV decreases by 9%). The EV takes a much bigger hit on aerodynamics, and therefore will take a much more noticeable hit on range. This is why LR needed to design the car (from the outset) to be as aerodynamic as possible, such that when they inevitable release the EV version, it's range wouldn't be compromised to a significant degree.
      Anyways, fantastic car, & I hope they've worked on improving the reliability!

    • @buhlebenkosinala6499
      @buhlebenkosinala6499 Год назад

      This is the short wheel base version

  • @emekaossai5485
    @emekaossai5485 Год назад +131

    100% the door seal missing the SV was a factory instal error

    • @imwilki
      @imwilki Год назад +24

      Sums up the attention to detail , surface luxury and integrity only , looks lovely tho

    • @nl3712
      @nl3712 Год назад +3

      My thoughts exactly

    • @Steve-rv1ql
      @Steve-rv1ql Год назад +53

      A shocking error (given the price) which sums up this tank of a car, fake luxury, fake green credentials, fake quality a fake 4x4 for orange people. I actually hate everything this car represents, marketing lead trash which would be hopelessly unreliable if used as intended for more than a week. If I won one I’d sell it the day after, depreciation, like a sack of cement in a lift shaft

    • @lgliam
      @lgliam Год назад +17

      @@Steve-rv1ql U ok hun

    • @jamesellsworth9673
      @jamesellsworth9673 Год назад +3

      @@Steve-rv1ql Good points all, Steve 59!

  • @johnfrench9608
    @johnfrench9608 Год назад +39

    I would love to be a fly on the wall in the range rover pricing department. I think they must have some sort of fruit machine with numbers on it!

    • @leecollins3242
      @leecollins3242 Год назад +1

      My first Range Rover in 1999 was £100k - the SV I have now was £168k - 24 years on, the car is significantly cheaper now that I was then and that’s before you add in the huge amount of technology on then current car that largely didn’t even exist in the 90s

    • @WarrenF
      @WarrenF Год назад +2

      @@leecollins3242 The depreciation on range rovers are astronomical. That 1999 RR is about £5k now.

    • @marcelohendrix6139
      @marcelohendrix6139 Год назад

      @@WarrenF that’s with any luxury car. the s class will be the same price if not cheaper

    • @johnfrench9608
      @johnfrench9608 Год назад

      @@leecollins3242 Yes maybe I am a bit harsh. There does seem to be a steady increase albeit very expensive. The thing that does not add up though is how much less the pure ICE vehicle is than the PHEV really it should be not much more than half the PHEV.. The v8 defender is actually more than the HEV which is simply ridiculous.

  • @johndix355
    @johndix355 Год назад

    Harry Im glad you still have the old Rolls in the garage, that was one of my favourite videos

  • @nigel.w
    @nigel.w Год назад +13

    This time last year I spec'd up one of these new Range Rovers for 113k ! I spec'd it on the SE model platform with the P400 MHEV petrol engine, which is a 3L I6 with 400hp. I didn't spec the offroading cameras, because like most people I'd use it as a luxury vehicle and the only off-road environment it would be likely to encounter is parking in a field. Other than that it had all the toys and features one would want and more, even including an electric tow bar, etc, etc, etc. So much is now standard equipment on the full-size RR. In fact, it could be argued I went a little overboard with the options; still they totalled less than 10k. I really don't understand why most people seem to think the starting point for spec'ing a Range Rover is the Autobiography. IMO, you absolutely do not need to spend anywhere near that much money. And if I were spec'ing a vehicle to go seriously off-road with offroading cameras, etc, I'd be spec'ing a Defender, not a full-size RR. As always, YMMV, but I really think more people should re-visit the so-called lesser models to see what you can get for a lot less money, because even I was surprised at just how much you can get for the money.

  • @JohnAgustinScuderia458595
    @JohnAgustinScuderia458595 Год назад +2

    3 Videos in the span of 1 week. What a time to be alive!

  • @leecollins3242
    @leecollins3242 Год назад +18

    Love your reviews Harry but I think you’re off the mark here…
    Like you I’m a lifelong Range Rover owner and I took delivery of my P510 SV in October last year. It’s utterly brilliant to my mind.
    Anything that big but with the capability to do literally anything on four wheels, is never going to compete with a Honda E for electric efficiency. I have one of those too!
    But if we ignore the detailed maths for a minute and stick to the basics. I now have a Range Rover that spends 95% of its time almost silent in operation. In March my car averaged 128mpg. 1500 - 1700 miles from a single tank of fuel is the norm, so in the real world, where it actually counts. I think Land Rover may have just created the finest daily driver the world as ever seen.
    Amazing content, thanks so much for the time you put into it.

  • @strandvaskeren
    @strandvaskeren Год назад +24

    I wonder why they made that central tablet look like it was glued on as an afterthought rather than integrating it into the dash? Even if it's to get it closer to the driver, just mould the dash out a bit and make it look like it's supposed to be there rather than make it look like you've picked up a random tablet at the shop and hot glued it onto the dash..

    • @Steve-gc5nt
      @Steve-gc5nt Год назад +5

      It's because they glued it on as an afterthought. But then they all do.

    • @jimj2683
      @jimj2683 Год назад +1

      The trend of having displays all over the interior will only end once even the cheapest kia ev comes with only screens.

    • @jonnowocky8179
      @jonnowocky8179 Год назад +1

      Doing this always quickly dates the interior because of how fast bezel widths come down - and you end up with what looks like an old iPad

    • @lre132
      @lre132 Год назад

      Agree it puts me off massively. How it wasn’t thought about baffles me

    • @marcelohendrix6139
      @marcelohendrix6139 Год назад

      because that’s how they made the last one and clearly this is the new trend. same as the new s clsss, 7 series etc

  • @iancharlton678
    @iancharlton678 Год назад +26

    As a recovery operator, when you look at a Range Rover and say “it’s got a lot of electric motors…” I rub my hands 🙂 I can’t love the look of the latest, preferring the previous aesthetic……. I’ve had a few over the years and I am a Land Rover fan…… but I have earned well from their, usually electrical, histrionics….. hence my previous G wagon, Amazons and current XC90.
    I’m a tad confused, thinking the SV meant it would be a bit mad, like the SVR…… luminous yellow with a shouty exhaust… ?
    I don’t like the paint finish, thinking it looks as though it was stuck on by Yianni…… who I do approve of, but not on my posh Range Rover……. from a practical point of view, that satin or semi mat finish won’t wear well, or clean up easily. I’m with you on the wheels, which I would match with a more hardcore look…….
    So, no…….. it’s neither an uber posh version, a hardcore off roader or a super sporty one…… it’s a confusion with a lofty price tag. A good and thorough testing though Harry…. 🙂🇬🇧

    • @stevemawer848
      @stevemawer848 Год назад

      I think SV is for Special Vehicle (Operations), it's the "R" that makes it shouty! 🙂

    • @iancharlton678
      @iancharlton678 Год назад +4

      @@stevemawer848 I realise that, but I see nothing special about it, save some trinkets and finessing….. it reminds me of Overfinch…… some styling yes, but the unfeasibly big engine transplant and handling was key…….
      Now its a badge and a sequinned codpiece for top trumps at the Golf Club.

  • @tidborough
    @tidborough Год назад +40

    You did not look comfortable in the back seat at all, you would expect more leg room as standard, Also I think the paint work looks like it's been body wrapped!

    • @tidborough
      @tidborough Год назад +2

      Forgot to say " what is that ugly SV badge on the rear "

    • @spongebobsquaretits
      @spongebobsquaretits Год назад +4

      the leg room looks terrible, even with the seat forward

    • @robster6868
      @robster6868 Год назад

      @@spongebobsquaretits
      Then you get that stupid step thing.

    • @andrewfitzmaurice7843
      @andrewfitzmaurice7843 Год назад +1

      Glad I’m not the only one to think the rear leg room looks poor. Before the front seat moved it didn’t look much better than my Discovery 4.

    • @spongebobsquaretits
      @spongebobsquaretits Год назад

      @@robster6868 that looked to make it worse

  • @neillangdale829
    @neillangdale829 Год назад +44

    As an ex taxi driver I was always taking and picking up customers from land-rover / range rover dealerships more than any other always dues to electrical issues usually. and I can see now why as every detail seems to have a motor on it! So much to go wrong 💥 cheers Harry, love the review 🤓🤓

    • @wingcommanderdaltonwalton67
      @wingcommanderdaltonwalton67 Год назад +1

      Boring!

    • @simonsaunt4321
      @simonsaunt4321 Год назад +8

      I was a master tech at a Land Rover dealer for well over 20 years, we had 20 + vehicles broken down outside all the time even though we had 10 techs fixing them.

    • @HONDAVFRV4
      @HONDAVFRV4 Год назад +4

      My Vauxhall Calibra was in Vauxhall more times than I drove the thing. Head casket fail, water pump, fuel pump, this and that. I then drove Range Rovers as a Traffic Officer on the M6. The most reliable and amazing workhorse going. We used to tow 44 ton semi's from the carriageway to open it up after they had broken down or involved in a collision. Vehicle never missed a beat. They were literally driven 24/7.

    • @wingcommanderdaltonwalton67
      @wingcommanderdaltonwalton67 Год назад +2

      @@HONDAVFRV4 😂 I had the same cylinder head problem with my Calibra which Vauxhall refused any responsibility as well as new ecu and wiring loom.

    • @ahemgee9542
      @ahemgee9542 Год назад +3

      ​@@wingcommanderdaltonwalton67but true

  • @anthonypaterson7066
    @anthonypaterson7066 Год назад

    Hi Harry. So pleased that you are different from so many motoring journalists,. You are not at all phased to criticise and highlight the warts etc. The so called business class seat in the back, to use it the front passenger has to alight, WTF. The white badge on the back, I'm speechless.
    Travel safely.

  • @foltan1
    @foltan1 Год назад +4

    PHEVs are just great for Company Cars, that's the point. It doesn't matter how good/efficient it actually is - just the fact it has >40 miles range on electric makes it really cheap on BIK tax.
    The BIK tax on a D350 SV including fuel is £27,000 per year but only £6,000 per year on a P510e SV! That's an enormous difference!

    • @andycampbell5491
      @andycampbell5491 Год назад

      You can guarantee the government will concoct a taxation system to penalise the EV driver in due course. You can't lose tax income from fossil fuels, road tax and company car tax to name a few.

    • @foltan1
      @foltan1 Год назад

      @@andycampbell5491 Oh yeah 100%, but they're always listed 3 years in advance so for now, anyone with a PHEV company car will know what it'll cost them for this term

  • @ronniewilson6597
    @ronniewilson6597 Год назад +3

    Bloody hell, with two people and bags etc, this takes it over 3 tons. WTF. Come on . Great video ‘H’. 👍🏻😀

  • @apanda1662
    @apanda1662 Год назад +3

    Have to agree with you Harry, too many variables on the SV that should have been sorted in this press car, my choice would be the Autobiography

  • @maaasaa
    @maaasaa Год назад +4

    A while ago cancelled the phev RR once the D350 had been experienced. After 9k miles It’s brilliant, suits the new RR completely. And NO faults. Also PHEV only has 2500kg towing capacity!!

    • @71FB
      @71FB Год назад

      Same here - I have the LWB 7 seater D350 which is an astonishingly good way to travel. Glad you are enjoying yours!

    • @carrypls556
      @carrypls556 Год назад

      ❤ 0:13

    • @carrypls556
      @carrypls556 Год назад

      ​@@71FB2:29 2:30

  • @ChocolateFrog
    @ChocolateFrog Год назад +10

    That illuminated sill plate is probably just broken on the drivers side. Seems odd if they are meant to be different side to side.

    • @davidrunnalls3039
      @davidrunnalls3039 Год назад +6

      Put the left hand drive version in a right hand drive.....

    • @37racso
      @37racso Год назад

      @@davidrunnalls3039 That's the real answer I think

  • @johnvilliger2145
    @johnvilliger2145 Год назад +1

    Hi Harry, John Villiger from New Zealand. I am a fan of your channel and Range Rovers (previously owned an L405 SDV8). I recently purchased a Range Rover SE P510e and have a home charger. I have driven it about 3,000km around the city and to our beach house; so have city driving and country including some steep hills etc. A couple of comments on your negatives! Mine has 21 inch wheels- the ride is perfect- none of the juddering niggles you experience with the SV which I assume has 23 inch wheels. You say the PHEV is cosmetic implying it is not functional. I agree there should be better EV mileage given size of battery, but I am getting 90km regularly on EV only which is genuinely useful- all my city driving plus 50% of the trip to the beach. And my fuel consumption is averaging 4.1L/100km! So despite an initial trepidation about buying a PHEV, love this car!

  • @Coatesy95
    @Coatesy95 Год назад +4

    Another brilliant review from the channel. Pleasantly surprised to see Steve Jobs reviewing the new SV 😂

  • @Ben-eu8dz
    @Ben-eu8dz Год назад +3

    I ended up opting for the much cheaper X5 PHEV and its brilliant tbh.

  • @stevenmuyimbwa8747
    @stevenmuyimbwa8747 Год назад +3

    Always always enjoy your reviews... And i have a particular interest in this one, being a hybrid. Will be interesting to see what the full EV will be like performance-wise! Thank you Sir.

  • @arden6665
    @arden6665 Год назад +2

    I drive an old X5 e53 and I had one simler to this park next to me and the presence was mind boggling. It looked like a boat had parked next to me. Beautiful car to look at in my opinion but that price tag and the fact it's a range rover will keep me away even if I could afford it.

  • @ianbrown1255
    @ianbrown1255 Год назад +6

    I’m glad I cancelled my order….I bought a new Mercedes GLE 350 de hybrid last year as an interim but I think I’ll keep the Mercedes going for another year and until something better comes along…currently 16500 miles, 50 mpg average and 60 miles electric range, air suspension is glorious and no problems whatsoever….would definitely recommend it!

    • @37racso
      @37racso Год назад

      Did you go for the coupe or the standard one?

    • @ianbrown1255
      @ianbrown1255 Год назад

      @@37racso standard but either is good!

    • @37racso
      @37racso Год назад

      @@ianbrown1255 I'd go standard too, very solid choice!

  • @souly25life
    @souly25life Год назад

    Can’t wait for you to review the Defender 130. Your knowledge in the brand is deep.

  • @andysteavenson2983
    @andysteavenson2983 Год назад +18

    Ive got the P440e and it has the same issues with ride even on 21" wheels, just way too fidgity, disappointingly so, lots of wind nopise from mine too. The battery range is also very poor it just evaporates so quickly and is a right faff to charge if you don't, like me, have a home charger and also works out really expensive using the charging network. I had the D350 autobiography before and it's the best of the bunch but my car being an SE is just not that much less of a car despite a big saving in cost. If you're considering one don't ignore the cheaper models, they are 95% as good for a lot less money.

    • @harrysgarage
      @harrysgarage  Год назад +9

      Sorry to hear that, I hoped yours might have been the better option. If we ignore all the tax benefits, I’m sure D350 is the way to go with new Range Rover and, as you say, a lower spec one too.

    • @andysteavenson2983
      @andysteavenson2983 Год назад +8

      @@harrysgarage D350 in SE or HSE spec is the way to go. AB is not worth the extra and Hybrid is not worth the tax benefit either if buying via a company scheme. 100% believe Diesel suits these perfectly and I wish I had kept mine.

  • @nohedes
    @nohedes Год назад +3

    Nice review, I think I would take a SWB lower spec model with dark green gloss metallic paint, lighter interior, 19” wheels and no privacy glass. Probably the D350 engine too.

  • @markevans4088
    @markevans4088 Год назад +8

    Thanks Harry, very interesting. I had a previous generation Autobiography Dynamic, two years old, always wanted a Range Rover, a real 'dream come true' car for me, and I enjoyed driving it. But sadly the car was in the workshop three times, outside of three services, in three years, truly unreliable for any modern car, let alone such a premium car.
    Maybe this generation will be better, but Landrover have been saying that for years now!

    • @ianbrown1255
      @ianbrown1255 Год назад

      Same experience sadly…try the new Mercedes GLE hybrid….you won’t be disappointed and your new best friend won’t be the LR Service Manager!

    • @Bob-nu3xe
      @Bob-nu3xe Год назад

      sound like a nightmare

  • @aspiratedaloha2946
    @aspiratedaloha2946 Год назад +3

    Harry always delivers the most comprehensive review

  • @Tracertme
    @Tracertme Год назад +50

    I don’t know what it was, but I found this vehicle hilarious I can’t imagine a worse vehicle… at least at this price point.😂 great video.

  • @dariodelolmogarrido4045
    @dariodelolmogarrido4045 Год назад +1

    Harry's eye for style is brilliant on this one picking up all the silly nuances aesthetically. Must be his fathers photographic eye!

  • @michaelnaughton1393
    @michaelnaughton1393 Год назад +19

    The 160K Farm Truck. Your old L322 looked better resolved,more purposeful and way more desirable and now for only around 8K. As for that Satin colour it looks like a naff wrap.

  • @Padoinky
    @Padoinky Год назад +1

    I just bought a Lexus LX600 Sport and having owned the RR Autobiography, the MB GL63 AMG, and a multitude of other LuxoSUVs, IMHO the latest LX is a sweet ride

  • @helipeek2736
    @helipeek2736 Год назад +17

    That paint finish might look like an amazing choice in the luxury of a dealership showroom but, I bet any money, it won’t wear well out in the real world of; shopping trolleys, stone chips, jewellery, kids and keys.

    • @Buick_GSX
      @Buick_GSX Год назад

      I doubt we're much past the phase of bmw and mercedes satin paints where if you breathed at them wrong you'd permanently damage the paint. There's no reason for such paint on a 4x4, even a luxury 4x4

    • @37racso
      @37racso Год назад +1

      Most people don't care. I doubt first owners keep them for longer than 2-3 years

  • @Sinewman01
    @Sinewman01 Год назад

    Loved this Harry...especially as I grew up in Oxton village too!

  • @romainl.8066
    @romainl.8066 Год назад +14

    The High voltage battery is 31.8kwh usable, not 38kwh, which brings the capacity higher and from 1.7 1.8mil/kwh, but can actually be much better.
    I have driven many phevs and this one is definitely the most capable in terms of range and refinement, excluding the mass that is indeed on the high side!
    I dont think comparing with BEVs is fair either, because this will be obviously worse with the mass of the engine and all surrounding components/ liquids that aren't needed on BEV.
    GREAT video as usual, but I feel the assessment of the EV Capacity isn't correct.

    • @37racso
      @37racso Год назад +3

      I thought he was comparing to his old hybrid Range though.. Which is fair, since they are in many ways very similar, with the old one also being a hybrid.

    • @leecollins3242
      @leecollins3242 Год назад

      Well said

    • @romainl.8066
      @romainl.8066 Год назад

      @@37racso yes comparing to the previous range rover is fair, not with BEVs.
      The EV range of the new model is over 3 times the previous one, for a battery 3 times the size, it is more efficient but will depend on other factors as ambient temperature (Harry said it was cold 3 or 4 degC), driving style, roads, etc

  • @fairmont___d
    @fairmont___d Год назад +1

    I always appreciate your honesty in your reviews. No compromising to endear yourself to the manufacturer.

  • @darrenjaundrill2010
    @darrenjaundrill2010 Год назад +9

    I really want to love it Harry. I really do! Unfortunately I still can't get on with the rear design (that's before the SV badge!). There does seem to be an obsession with motorising everything in the interior too. I'm sure most of us are capable of sliding back a panel for the cupholder. I don't know. Maybe it will grow on me. I just don't get the same feel as I do in an L322 or even an L405. It's the Range Rover 'x' factor I think.....something seems to be missing and I can't quite put my finger on it.

    • @gro9465
      @gro9465 Год назад +1

      I concur. The rear is a deal breaker.

    • @yilmazh3127
      @yilmazh3127 Год назад

      Looks like a potato. There’s only so many curves you can have until it looks like any other car on the road

    • @Rover200Power
      @Rover200Power Год назад +2

      Does anyone else get irritated waiting for the electric motors to slowly open or close something? When I want something open or closed I want it done quickly, I don't want to watch it for 5 minutes before it finishes.

    • @gordowg1wg145
      @gordowg1wg145 Год назад +1

      Exactly, I wanted so much to like this car*, but there is SO much that would REALLY grind my gears.
      For the money it'd be much better, for me, to get an earlier model and have it "resto-modded" to suit my wants. To illustrate that, I'd feel much happier with a Legacy Power Wagon - Cummins 6 cylinder and manual transmission.
      *I'm not anywhere near the income level needed, but RR's have almost always been one of my LOTTO choices.

  • @jeremynoble931
    @jeremynoble931 Год назад +8

    SV stands for Salvage Vehicle, so you do get to keep that lovely ceramic coaster as a memento...

  • @pageant1fd
    @pageant1fd Год назад +55

    The only extra missing is reliability……at any price!

    • @Bob-nu3xe
      @Bob-nu3xe Год назад +1

      the more complicated the RR becomes the more unreliable awards it gets

  • @blxtothis
    @blxtothis Год назад +2

    In the opening clip, the tyre noise was more interesting than the exhaust note!

    • @gravemind6536
      @gravemind6536 Год назад

      Those tyre make more noise just pulling away normally than a hot hatch peeling away from the lights like lightning.

  • @richardcarter1000
    @richardcarter1000 Год назад +13

    Still the best car in the world. I'll always have one as my daily. I wouldn't bother with the hybrids or EV when it comes out. Get the top diesel. Looks like there is going to a U turn on the ICE ban now, so won't ever be an issue. People won't want the battery time bomb on the used market either. Great review as always. Cheers Harry.

    • @macpdm
      @macpdm Год назад +1

      Yes I heard about the EU u turn on the ICE ban. Let us hope the UK government see sense and follow suit. However I shall not hold my breath.

    • @tonyedgecombe6631
      @tonyedgecombe6631 Год назад +1

      @@macpdm We might get an extension but the writing is on the wall for ICE vehicles. Enjoy them while you can.

  • @antoniopalmero4063
    @antoniopalmero4063 Год назад +2

    I prefer the late L322 , autobiography or SE 4.4 tdv8 .you can get quite a nice one for about 15k .

  • @paulwoods6075
    @paulwoods6075 Год назад +5

    I'm watching this now, thinking about how I'll be able to buy it in about, ten years.

    • @edombre4637
      @edombre4637 Год назад +3

      you won't be able to buy it in 10 years cuz it will stop working after 5

    • @paulwoods6075
      @paulwoods6075 Год назад +1

      ​@Ed Ombre' A bit like Harry's watches he won't be wearing the smart one in 5 years, too much going on, too many ways for it to break.

  • @simewood2040
    @simewood2040 Год назад

    Love the Saigon livery. Thanks for another great feature.

  • @timgosling6189
    @timgosling6189 Год назад +3

    The protruding battery and rear valance look like they will significantly impinge on its off-road credentials. Smaller wheels might improve the fidgety ride; seems to be a problem across the range at the moment.

    • @gravemind6536
      @gravemind6536 Год назад

      The wheels are a problem on any car with higher trim levels sadly not just Range Rover. The world is mad you get family hatchbacks and saloons with 18 and 19 inch wheels its so stupid.

    • @nathangriffiths4629
      @nathangriffiths4629 Год назад

      Don't think there will be many soccer mom's taking these off road.

  • @JamesClark-uz9wq
    @JamesClark-uz9wq Год назад +2

    Another cost of living crisis special from Harry! Always good to know what the local drug dealers in my area are going to be driving around in 15 years time...

  • @richryan8904
    @richryan8904 Год назад +4

    Hello Harry. Thanks, as ever, for your content. This was a super review with a lot of real world (albeit rarefied ) user scenarios. I have been waiting ages and ages for a review that took on the mpg of the phev for real world usage. The result seems to be good, but not outstanding; maybe that will come with a mid cycle refresh, or the 2024 full EV. A great all round review, thanks. (PS: agreed on the boot lit SV badge - it’s just an insensitive open invite to key that panel!)

  • @jameslindley924
    @jameslindley924 Год назад

    I saw the rear end shimmy when you set off out the yard.
    RR Classic had that nice sideways Swagger on Coils

  • @TheDoosh79
    @TheDoosh79 Год назад +7

    I suspect the guy who put the wrong kick plate on and the QA guy who missed it are in for a bollocking!

    • @mariemccann5895
      @mariemccann5895 Год назад

      Doubt it, this think is built in the UK so quality is never going to be a thing.

  • @GC987
    @GC987 Год назад

    Harry - I'm eternally impressed by your intellect and ability to convey the subtlety of complex issues be they farming or automotive ...... but really.... you have to invest in some reusable shopping bags for loading & unloading the shopping 19 minutes in LOL. I do exactly the same when I offer to go pick up a few bits and then wonder why the bill is the wrong side of 50 quid LOL !!! I love your videos. Thanks so much.

  • @offsideundo
    @offsideundo Год назад +3

    It's to be expected that these should go directly to the crusher the day after they go off lease as no one in their right mind would own one of these off warranty. Good God!!

  • @luvkante
    @luvkante Год назад

    Thank you for this very knowledgeable analysis.
    No the blabla like others!

  • @markslack
    @markslack Год назад +36

    Excellent video as ever. Looks are very subjective, obviously, but I just can't get the latest Range Rover style. The previous generation models looked far more classy and upmarket. LR seem to be loading their latest models with so many unnecessary gimmicks to justify the whopping price levels. Were I blessed with sufficient funds I would go for a well cared for previous generation model and buy something sporty/classic for fun days.

    • @samjl4
      @samjl4 Год назад +1

      I remember people saying that about the l405 (me included), the l322 just can’t be beaten for a modern Range Rover, honoured the original perfectly. I find it easy to hate the newer models, living near wilmslow you see how shockingly tasteless they can be made to look.

    • @long_view
      @long_view Год назад +1

      Agree.

    • @jody024
      @jody024 Год назад

      Looks better in Silver and Black. Guy in my town went with a Silver/Black two tone and it helps.

    • @marcelohendrix6139
      @marcelohendrix6139 Год назад +2

      this definitely looks much cleaner & classy

    • @markslack
      @markslack Год назад

      @@jody024 Yes, some cars are colour sensitive.

  • @scofair1968
    @scofair1968 Год назад

    I love the colour and the satin finish .... especially with the black gloss contrast

  • @dylanbland
    @dylanbland Год назад +4

    Great review :) is the comparison with the Honda E fair though? Same size battery but the RR is 2x heavier? Wouldn't you expect the range to be shorter than the Honda? A lot of weight to push around. What am I missing?

  • @Logan.Ninefingers
    @Logan.Ninefingers Год назад +1

    So funny to see the Range Rover and the Mini together in that corner scene.

  • @jaseleese7549
    @jaseleese7549 Год назад +3

    The wheels look like early 996 C4 ones.😊

  • @Maccaboy1984
    @Maccaboy1984 11 месяцев назад +1

    Expensive! I just several several advertised in the UK first around £250k! INSANE.

  • @SilojensenDK
    @SilojensenDK Год назад +3

    I'm certain that this is as reliable as any Range Rover of the past!

    • @SeaJayBelfast
      @SeaJayBelfast Год назад

      And even more stealable thanks to the plastic rear boot lid providing easy access to the wiring. Gone in 20 seconds. Virtually uninsurable in certain areas.

  • @Driver599
    @Driver599 Год назад +2

    This LR makes most sense with the BMW twin-turbo v8. Spec not really appealing, but Harry like always delivers great content. Looking forward to the Ineos Grenadier (petrol variant) review.

  • @jasondurden2803
    @jasondurden2803 Год назад +10

    As with everything automotive, the quality doesn't say £160k because pre COVID it was £120k. It's difficult to see where this is all going, 35% sector inflation and high interest rates have to kill demand even at these elevated price levels.

    • @timgosling6189
      @timgosling6189 Год назад +2

      I know what you mean, but this car hadn't been launched pre-covid.

  • @mickmaloy
    @mickmaloy Год назад +1

    Great video and I agree w/ your thoughts on the SV badging. They stress the ceramic but I prefer understatement. The ceramic is all wrong and yes the rims, don't love them.

  • @ruk2023--
    @ruk2023-- Год назад +3

    Is the Honda E range comparison relevant? The Honda E weight about half of the Range Rover and has a lot less frontal area to push through the wind so it's not surprising that the Honda E gets much better range on the same size batteries.

  • @wisedupearly3998
    @wisedupearly3998 Год назад

    To my eye the rear arch line breaks at the trailing edge of rear door. See 3:37. The arch line on the rear quarter panel is already turning down rather than smoothly flowing across into the door arch.

  • @wandering_not_lost
    @wandering_not_lost Год назад +3

    In electric mode the car is consuming vast amounts of electricity, Harry said it's equivalent to 29mpg, that electricity has to be generated somewhere and here in the uk much of it is produced from gas, so all the car is doing is transferring it's emissions elsewhere. On that basis I can't think that it justifies paying no vehicle excise duty. Basically it's a huge, heavy gas guzzler. I want one!

  • @andrewstoffel1170
    @andrewstoffel1170 Год назад +2

    Electric, petrol or diesel it takes a lot of energy to move nearly 3 tonnes of whatever. Still we’re all in it together.

  • @brendanmoran397
    @brendanmoran397 Год назад +2

    A car line NOTORIOUS for their electrical issues, now available in MOSTLY ELECTRIC. Oh boy! Where do I sign up?

  • @jamestreanor182
    @jamestreanor182 Год назад

    Harry laughing at a top of the range RR is awesome!

  • @Thecrazyvaclav
    @Thecrazyvaclav Год назад +5

    I’m not impressed with these, seeing them on the road the top body half looks really narrow, bottom half seems really wide just doesn’t seem to gel, couple of them had the well publicised broken rear light issue.
    That SV badge was really noticeable as you drove off down the drive, terrible bit of design, darker badge with lighter SV script would be better.
    Doesn’t seem a lot of room in the back either.

  • @shaneosullivan8546
    @shaneosullivan8546 Год назад

    I've seen a jet black one of these and yes the sv badge sticks out like crazy.

  • @jimj2683
    @jimj2683 Год назад +3

    I wonder how reduced the ground clearance is because of the battery pack sticking out under.

    • @christopherdavis6055
      @christopherdavis6055 Год назад +3

      It's lamentable, and a situation further aggravated by the air suspension lowering the car into access mode and remaining rooted at that height until the car gets above a decent walking speed. I had the new RRS on test the other weekend, and grounded it just trying to manoeuvre out of a cambered car port! You can configure the settings so as not to adopt the access mode, but absolutely shouldn't have to resort to that.

  • @98Blackbess
    @98Blackbess Год назад +1

    Being an owner of a Jaguar Land Rover group vehicle. I would NEVER buy another. On the 2nd day from new, the workshop visits started. The vehicle ended up spending just over 1600 working hours (based on a 9hr working day) in different main dealer workshops on various dates for 2.5 years with the same electrical issues. During my personal visits to the dealerships i also lost count at the amount of Range Rovers that were arriving on recovery trucks too. NEVER will i buy anything to do with either a Jaguar or Land Rover again.

  • @richardsmith9509
    @richardsmith9509 Год назад +4

    The price on this "thing" is absolutely absurd......I would take a Cayenne Turbo S (used) any day of the week

    • @quantttum
      @quantttum Год назад +1

      Exactly and I also like the fact that the Cayenne looks different than the Macan. I can't even tell all these range Rover models apart anymore.

  • @andrewhurstcars
    @andrewhurstcars Год назад +1

    So buy the time you load up four adults with luggage for a trip, plus full tank, you’re probably getting very close to the 3500kg limit.

  • @robertw.1499
    @robertw.1499 Год назад +6

    HI Harry, just watched this video on the Range, have now subscribed and rand the bell. Have a question on PHEVs in general so would appreciate your input. I've had my X3 hybrid for about 18 months. In it's first winter, the following occurred to me. In the week, I can drive on electric only, at the weekends, I drive to my girlfriend's home a 100 kms away. If I have driven all week on the battery with low temperatures outside, then leave home on Friday for that longer drive using the battery as well, doing 120 kph on the Autobahn when the battery runs out and the COLD engine kicks in at 2500 rpm can't be good for an unlubricated engine, especially cold. I asked my BMW dealer and the service people just didn't have an answer for me. Am I being overly anxious or is there something to my worry? Thanks 👍

    • @gambiting
      @gambiting Год назад +2

      It's nothing to worry about, the engineers who make these cars aren't idiots. There are a few reasons for this
      1) the oil used in these is practically water, it provides maximum lubrication even when cold started
      2) the oil pump is electrically driven and runs always no matter if the ICE is running or not
      3) the maximum power output of the engine is limited until it's actually at full operating temperature. You can test it yourself by giving it full pelt when the engine is cold and when it's warm.
      4) the engine and its components are getting warmed up when driving in ICE mode because the engine coolant has an independent heater.
      So no, the engine "starting" at 2500rpm on the motorway is not a problem at all.

    • @robertw.1499
      @robertw.1499 Год назад +1

      @@gambiting Thanks for the detailed reply 🙏

  • @-DC-
    @-DC- Год назад +2

    Makes the L322 look like peak Range Rover more and more with every Generation. Give me a TDV8 Westminster Everytime over this.

  • @sweetfreedomGB
    @sweetfreedomGB Год назад +4

    Used to love range rovers, they were all things to all men (&women), but aspirational as well. But at 3 tons and well over £150k things are getting ridiculous.

    • @martinmcdonald4207
      @martinmcdonald4207 Год назад +1

      They made a lot more sense 50 years ago, that`s for sure.

  • @Reko_89
    @Reko_89 10 месяцев назад

    Absolutely STUNNING

  • @cafe405
    @cafe405 Год назад +6

    How does having the batteries hanging down there affect its off road ability? I imagine that's not something you want to smack on a rock and get wet?

    • @ahemgee9542
      @ahemgee9542 Год назад

      The batteries are in a sealed liquid cooled compartment.

    • @gro9465
      @gro9465 Год назад +1

      @@ahemgee9542 To ask the same question: What if the sealed liquid cooled compartment hits a rock and gets damaged?

    • @mariemccann5895
      @mariemccann5895 Год назад

      PMSL

    • @Leonards-leopard
      @Leonards-leopard Год назад +2

      The only time this is going off road is when it turns into the drive at home after going on the school run

  • @minibus1351
    @minibus1351 Год назад +1

    I feel like the rear seats in the Range Rover looks a bit cramped. Even the previous version was like that. The short wheelbase version should still have ample rear legroom, especially for the behemoth size of a vehicle.

  • @richardfoulkes3083
    @richardfoulkes3083 Год назад +8

    Harry , can you reference how likely this car is to be on the road in 10-15 years given the complexity of it and how quickly the technology will date and parts availability lessen?

  • @councillorproctor8686
    @councillorproctor8686 9 месяцев назад

    There are noise cancelling speakers in the headrests so the sound level you hear is probably less than the reading

  • @judebrown2672
    @judebrown2672 Год назад +3

    Agree. Some parts look a bit backwards. I had a l405 autobiography was amazing. Anthracite Black and a mocca cream interior. Looked special. Love the look of the new shape better than any but the interior looks a bit cheap. Maybe with wood and cream leather it will improve it. I'm surprised the SV doesn't have cross stitched seats. Great reviews as always.

  • @dariodelolmogarrido4045
    @dariodelolmogarrido4045 Год назад

    I see a couple around my work in Double Bay, Syd and they looks sublime in black with silver less cumbersome wheels.

  • @beatles4sale2007
    @beatles4sale2007 Год назад +3

    I dread to think what the Full EV Rangie will weigh when it comes out in a couple of years…3.5T? Bonkers.

    • @thefamilyrobbo
      @thefamilyrobbo Год назад +2

      Soon, an HGV licence will be required to drive a top end SUV 😂

    • @gravemind6536
      @gravemind6536 Год назад

      If they breach 3.5T unladen it will require a HGV C1 license to drive and fall under loads of different regulations need different insurance etc. Its already possible with all seats filled and the luggage to get these monster SUVs to weigh in excess of 3.5t laden which still requires that said C1 license.

  • @slavkogojkovic1551
    @slavkogojkovic1551 Год назад

    such a great shot 16:24 .that MINI looks like it could fit in Range Rovers boot

  • @geoffshilton6998
    @geoffshilton6998 Год назад +4

    160k ?! ....well they have to cover off the forthcoming warranty claims somehow.

  • @V8PropaneBurner
    @V8PropaneBurner Год назад +1

    Brilliant video again Harry. I don't get that crazy electric rear seat! You looked pretty cramped in there to begin with, which is not what I expect from a Range Rover. Then you have a seat that can squash you into a less comfortable position, as long as there is no front seat passenger! It seems pointless, why not simply sit in the front with and enjoy the extra space that is already there? I also can't believe how noisy the door handles were when they retracted; that's a cheap car level of sound. My 20 year old Merc uses vacuum actuators for the door locks and they're almost silent.

  • @Cyberdyne-kg8ku
    @Cyberdyne-kg8ku Год назад +6

    A car that weighs up to 2800kgs and Harry's worried about the wheels. 😆

    • @stevemawer848
      @stevemawer848 Год назад

      And is surprised it's not very electrically efficient! How many electrons does it take to move a 3 tonne car?

  • @michaelh5722
    @michaelh5722 Год назад +1

    I just re-watched the Bentayga review after this, and I struggle to see why anyone would want a Range Rover SV after it.
    Lovely looking car but it doesn’t make a huge amount of sense.