BRAKE FIRE - REJECTED TAKEOFF | United B737 at Denver International
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I’m guessing this ATC is what every pilot would dream of in a complicated situation. He handled it like a chief, no panic, clear coms, dealing with the emergency quickly while managing other aircrafts and vehicles… superb
Absolutely!
Southwest 1187 sounded like he had the window down out for a Sunday drive lol
What business casual sounds like, for sure.
lol right.. cool as a cucumber soaked in vinegar
From the pictures, the brakes were working a little too well.
Brakes might have stayed locked when he tried to accelerate.
@@fhuber7507 That's the only thing I can think of because I'm pretty sure they have antilock brakes.
Nah you can run full take off power with the brakes holding the plane in place. It’s done in maintenance all the time. Something caused the rejected takeoff and the pilot slammed the brakes or they sat without anti skid functioning
Parking brake failed to release?
The ATC was really on the ball between noticing the issue and dealing with the other aircraft at the same time. Great awareness by the pilot as well to react quickly to a potential issue.
Just love these situations that demonstrate the incredible professionalism of the pilots and controllers. They sure earn their money!
Pilot; I think we may have a flat tire
*video shows a half ground down landing gear wheel*
Me; Yeeah, I think you might be right there Cap.
And a flat wheel!
This happened after braking
@@X737_really? I thought it happened before braking 🤯🤯
Uh there isn’t any tire left to be flat or round or any other shape 😅
Love the controller’s clear comms here, especially emphasizing “left” for aircraft switching runways and others. Great situation awareness.
The controller has got some very good eyes on the tarmac... He is so focused. We need such controllers all over the world... He prevented a major major catastrophe
He's got more than a flat tire... he's got a flat wheel.
Geezus thats a lot of damage 😮. I wonder if tower sidestepped 1187 automatically because if he did that was awesome controlling.
Hearing the responder ground communications on this one might be informative and entertaining. You can imagine what the chatter was when they got eyes on this. “Tower, I’m sending you a picture because you won’t believe me if I just tell you. Oh and your runway is closed. Big time.”
That'll buff out
Might need a lot of buff.
Tbh we almost have it ready to fly again. Been working on it for a while.
@@weylinwest9505 and some extra duct tape!
As textbook as a tyre blowing and the plane catching fire can possibly be. Amazing professionals all round.
Good controller. Right on top of everything.
That's some major damage! Glad everyone was ok.
Nicely done pilots & controllers!
Very professional from southwest.
Audio says the left engine may be on fire, but the animation shows the right engine.
And the stills show the right side wheels. The ATC is looking at the aircraft from a long way away and at a shallow angle, so it's hard for him to tell. The left engine and the right wheel are in the same line for him.
@@cageordie Specially a low to the ground aircraft like the 737.
Damn, this is more than just a flat tire, even a rim was grounded in half. I like how the pilots immediately aborted takeoff and the ATC informed the pilots that there is a fire after that as well as quickly diverting Southwest 1187 to another runway or go around.
That will buff right out.
That rustic cowboy voice at 1:09 , 1:18 is so addictive 😊
Looks like the brakes melted the tire. Great job ATC and Pilots!
It was pilots error that caused it.
We'll wait for the official report. Very unlikely there was anything the pilot did that would only affect the left main landing gear.
@@OkG00g1eThis shows nothing that would indicate that the pilots did anything wrong. Probably a blown tire because they do just fail, then braking hard with the drag of the blown tire locked up and blew the second tire. The left side blew the fuze plugs because of the brake heat from the rejected takeoff. Nothing the pilots could have done different that wouldn't have caused worse damage and potentially loss of life.
@@cageordie considering I have been working on this plane for 13 days says otherwise. You don't wear through the steel rim and down to the axle on accident.
@@OkG00g1e Aircraft, especially something as large as passenger jets don't have steel wheels buddy.
With the way those rims are ground down, those wheels had to be locked from the start. The abort was early in the take off roll, probably not increasing speed.. I wonder why ha
Can we also give a shout out to the mechanics and ground crew who also do a great job.
I'd not be so sure about that. Someone must have seriously fucked up in order for both tyres to blow up. Maybe they forgot to replace tyres at specified maintenance interval?
@@kamilhorvat8290no, I’m sure you don’t mean it that way but that’s a highly insulting thing to say. For one many people don’t consider the most dangerous parts of flying by far are taking off and landing, probably because it’s so routine. When you’re hurtling towards 100+ knots on an 80 or 150 ft wide runway, that’s the worst possible time for things to go wrong. The fact everyone was able to walk away intact is a testament to everyone involved from the maintainers to the pilots.
Down the road, you may be right. We might find out that there was some delinquency with a maintenance check, or maybe it really just was all the brake energy from a high speed abort exceeding the limitations of the system. But considering high speed aborts aren’t very common when there are probably hundreds of thousands of takeoffs occurring all over the country every day of the year, when these planes are getting used and abused day in and day out, is even more of a testament to the standards and procedures that have been developed over the years. And if they find some kind of new takeaway from this incident, it’s only going to add to that heritage of safety and risk management.
People love to focus on the one time everything goes wrong, and not the 99.9% of the time something that should be as borderline impossible as flying a hundreds of thousand pound plane goes smoothly. Luckily that’s exactly what the pilot mentality is, to prepare for that slim margin of error. I don’t know if everything in this instance operated exactly as it should’ve, but I’d say that’s the most likely outcome. These are mechanical parts, which can and will fail eventually. I’d say until proven otherwise, the maintainers deserve the dignity that we assume they care as much about the safety of the passengers and crew as anyone else would, and even if there was an oversight that’s nowhere near enough sufficient commentary on the profession of aircraft mechanic as a whole.
Southwest guy needs some tea and honey pronto
Yes, we heard,now let's check it out. This was expensive.
When was this?
Not the only thing going up in flames in Denver at this point 🏈
Broncos are a complete dumpster fire. Karma for Payton running his yap before the season started
Nothing new since the last SB really
What's the date of event? It'll be nice if date of events are displayed in the first few seconds of your videos.
1:41 Tonight we‘re gonna party like it‘s ??? 😁
Sounds like the parking brake might not have released or been released.
Yikes, did someone leave the parking brake on?
Runway 16R facing west kinda threw me off there
16r is the big 16,000' runway facing South. It's on the west side of the airport.
Why didn't check before takeoff and after landing..
3:09
yup. it's flat, alright.
Does bill clinton fly for southwest??
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in cases like this when the plane wont fly for some time, how fast do airlines provide another plane for the trip?
Denver is a United hub so probably a bit quicker then if this happened in Des Moines for example
It depends a lot on where you are. At a hub like this, they may have a spare plane (and crew) available to switch the flight to. At an outstation, however, they'd usually have to fly in another plane from a hub, so then it depends on how far they are from a hub they can fly one in from. That being said, I suspect that this particular flight was probably cancelled entirely given that the passengers would have had to evacuate on the runway and their bags would still be in the plane until it could be moved and unloaded. If they had to evacuate via the slides instead of via stairs, then their carry-on luggage would have also been stuck on the plane.
I actually Had a Situation twice, where a new plane was needed. Once in Kyjiv (IEV) with WizzAir. IT took them about 2:30. They Had to fly in a new Aircraft.
More recently on a Lufthansa Flight from Frankfurt to Munich. It was a Bit faster but still nearly 2 hours.
surprised the discreet and departure frequencies are so close, that is just asking for bleed over
Maybe a dumb question: non pilot here... why would there be enough heat in the brakes to cause a fire at the beginning of takeoff? Doesn't seem like brake usage during taxi would be enough to cause that unless the pilot was 'riding' the brake? Scary!
It was a takeoff roll, not a taxi. Energy is neither created nor destroyed, only transformed. If the wheel/brake/tire was faulty, all of the energy from two jet engines powerful enough to lift several hundred tons into the air was instead being dissipated through friction with the runway surface.
Sometimes when you line up and wait on the runway and there is a small delay the Captain may set the parking brake instead of holding the brakes with his toes on the rudders. Once given the takeoff clearance he forgot to release the parking brake and applied takeoff power with the parking brake still on. The tires locked by the parking brake will go flat once the heat reaches the safety plug melting point and the hot air is then released and eventually the rubber tire will burst into flames and the wheel grinds the metal on the concrete runway. Expensive mistake, just hold the brakes on the runway instead of using the parking brake. Captain’s are doing leg day workouts everyday using those rudders and brakes because they can feel heavy if your legs are weak.
@@jonahfinademz8646 Thanks! That makes perfect sense.
So, uh... how do they get it back to a hangar?
Took us about 12 hours but we managed.
@@OkG00g1e tugged it or did you guys have to bring out new wheels to tug it to hangar?
He's just here for attention, he has no clue what happened to this aircraft.@@BeezyKing99
Jack the plane up, swap out the wheels on the left side. Swap out the rights if possible, or put the right side on a dolly. Lookup Plane Skate, there are other versions too.
@@BeezyKing99 new wheels. Had it on jacks. Had to do some extra stuff just to get the wheel assembly off
Weird. It looks like the wheels were never rolling.
Why the hell the system allow to set TOGA or high power, with the parking brake on?. There must be an alert or an automatic impediment as minimun.
It does not
Respectfully, TOCWS can include the parking brake along with flaps and slats
Elevator trim position/horizontal stab position, lift dump, Rudder trim position
Various trim position, Parking brake.... Not typed in the 737, so some of these may be deleted, or they may enhanced TOCWS items relating to reduced power takeoffs....All depends on what the company wants to spend money on. @@VASAviation
@@VASAviation We were on Southwest 2380 today from LAX to AUS. As pilot was coming in for landing at Austin, all of a sudden the plane throttled up and pulled up hard. Pilot came on intercom and said there was another plane on runway. We circled around and ended up landing normally after.
@@patrickhynes6058Did you find it exciting as a passenger?
@@patrickhynes6058 Go-arounds for that reason are relatively routine. ATC usually does a good job with spacing, but sometimes it doesn't work out as they'd hoped for one reason or another and the aircraft behind has to go around. Which is also what happened to Southwest 1187 in this video (was lined up to land on 16R, but then had to go around when the United flight in the video had to abort their takeoff from 16R.)
He forgot to take the parking brake off. 😉
Let's just say he remembered it the whole way from the gate.
There's a warning for having the parking brake applied, and it would give you a master warning if you advanced the throttles far.
@@cageordie yep. There sure is. Didn't say he forgot.
@@cageordie Trouble is, warning systems fail too, and have failed in the past. So far we just don't know.
@@markmaki4460 brand new max. 397 cycles. Pilot just did some stupid stuff
technically the pilot was completly right, he had flat tires, and flat rims.
Tis but a Flesh wound!>>>
There’s a write off
Sounds like someone forgot to release the parking brake prior to take off.!
"Can you check our brakes?"
What brakes? You don't even have wheels.
Any idea on why he rejected takeoff before slamming on the brakes.
Because of an engine fire.
He probably felt the tires burst and the side of the aircraft fall and knew something went very wrong.
Probably the blown tire. There was no sign of an engine fire. What ATC saw was probably the metal scraped off the wheel burning. I think they are a magnesium alloy, so the dust burns very well.
@@cageordie I read in a report somewhere that there actually was an engine fire indication in the cockpit and that was the cause of the rejection.
That was really speedy radio communication! Fortunately all Participants were English Native Speakers. Thank you very much for picking this incident up!👍
The airline is cutting corners..
The MBA’s in management have managed to cut wheel use by half.
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1st and thanks for the awesome vids
1st Is irrelevant and of no value. You should watch this video.
@JSFGuy jealous and I did watch the video