I own the ZV-E10 MK1 and the a6700, and I’ve got to tell you, I used to love the ZV-E10, but when I got my hands on the a6700, I just loved it. If you have the money, it is totally worth it to buy the a6700. However, if you are a beginner, I think the ZV-E10 is a fantastic camera to start with.
I think a ZV-E10 II is a heavily crippled camera which suitable only for begginer vloggers who are swithching from the smartphone to a real camera. Yes, you have here many features beyond the smartphones, but definitedly if you want to take good photos in many situations, the lack of EVF, the lack of IBIS and also ergonomics and dials,etc. really worth the additional 400 bucks for buying the a6700
these two cameras aren't the same. The ZVE10ii is made for vlog, that's why it doesn't have an EVF. The A6700 is more about a hybrid. Two completely different cameras.
I think that the mark ii is crippled just as mark i if we compare the current technology. Also for vloggers, the overheating problem in hot temperature environments is crucial, so the solution is the fx30 with a built-in fan. Also, if you are a vlogger that takes photos once a while, it's a very problematic camera
Many bloggers seem to defend Sony products, even when they have flaws. I suspect Sony pays bloggers a lot. The ZV-E10 II camera is too expensive. It lacks in-body stabilization. The good stabilization only works with Sony lenses, which are pricey. This makes the ZV-E10 II not a budget-friendly option anymore
@@al3omda92 Active stabilization works also with 3rd party lenses (I own the Sigma trio). But it comes with a huge 1,5x crop. For me the major flaw of the ZV-E10 is the lack of Ibis and the poor battery life + no EVF (which would come handy in sunny days). Today Sony releases the ZV-E10 2nd gen at EUR 1000 here in Europe and still no Ibis. That's priced way too high compared to the ZV-E10 1st gen. My next camera will be the alpha 6700, without doubt.
there is 0% chance active stabilization only works with sony lenses. i have a ZV-E10 with a Sigma lens and active stabilization is available and works great.
I just do RUclips vids and make virtually no money doing it. So being a hobby video creator, the ZVE10 II was my upgrade plan. When it came out at $1000+ USD, I decided to buy either an a6400 or ZVE10 -- prices are a little wonky here in Phillipines, so just depends on which one is the best deal. Even 2nd-hand is OK. Good show as always ... Cheers
5:57 Out of all the reviewers I've seen mention the electronic shutter, only you mentioned the flickering! Boy am I glad I came across your review before going for the buy, or I'd be regretting it later! 🤣
The lack of IBIS, EVF, physical shutter and AI chip on the ZV-E10II are pretty big omissions, but it's also worth considering the weight because the A6700 weighs pretty much the same as the full frame A7C range.
The correct launch price for ZV-E10ii under the current spec should have been $850, although I still think they intentionally cut too many corners that won't necessarily save them much cost.
I think you didn't mention it. ZV-E10 II has a tally light I think, which is nice. I'm still undecided which one to get, but I feel the A6700 is the better choice. There seem to be used ones on the market, fairly new, barely 50$ more than the ZV-E10 II
Great review as always, found an A6700 new for £1135 against ZV-E10 £998 price can be closer than you think. I have original ZV-E10 if I upgrade I will definitely go for the A6700 😎
for table top content creator and gimbal users this is a slam dunk , esp with the better heat thermal ( which was confusing , i thought the a6700 lasted the same )
Hello everyone I wonder why no one is talking about which camera is best for live streaming? I think many people use system cameras for live streaming, but it seems that not many people are interested in talking about how the cameras handle live streaming.
I talked about this in my initial review. Live streaming it is fine. Live streamers only require one thing and that is a camera that is reliable and no overheating. FX30 would be best out of these two
@@JasonMorrisphotocinemaThanks so much. I saw it too. Thanks for the reply. Next question, I already have ZV E10, but want to upgrade. Should I wait for Fx30 ll, or buy now Fx30. Thank you so much for your reply in advance.
I have a secret crush on the FX3. Love that camera. I think the ZVE10 is perfect for content creators. If you want better stabilization with the E10II then get a gimbal. You need a gimbal anyway to look professional...lol
I have a6000, a5100, zv e10 m1. Lack of EVF is a bit of a problem for photography guys. Just because of I couldn't afford I bought without evf. And always kind of a regret.
10:07 my old Sony a700 from 2011 already does that, i was very disappointed when i got an a77II and later a7III that it didnt rotate anymore :/ I really hope all those new Features will also make it to "older" cameras like a7cII/r, a7rV, a7IV etc but looking at Sonys track record of firmware updates i probably expect too much
Many 🧠less people feeling expert about cameras here LoL, This is the fun fact: expensive Cameras needs high-end editing computer machine, You need a thousand Bucks to get your expectations from your expensive camera's... Don't settle to the opinion of fake experts, just find what camera that fits to your budget and make some tweaks for best results...
I was worried that I might have buyers remorse when they initially announced the mark II-having just upgraded to the 67000 from the mark I.. After seeing the recent spate of reviews, I feel that I made the right choice. Absolutely LOVE the 6700- and I don't think I could go back to not having viewfinder.
A lot people reviews will be wrong about zve10 2 because you will produce same quality as the fx30. The zv can produce a lot for less. If you are professional you produce a lot of quality work. "Less for more"
4:25 At first I thought that this was shot with no stabilization at all! BTW, did you try to compare Active stabilization with native Sony lenses vs third party ones? I guess the footage came out so shaky because you used a third party lens.
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema you mean the test in your car? Was it shot handheld by another person or using a tripod? Anyway, I can`t tell anything from that test. Even the standard OSS did well in it. A walking test with a third party lens would be much more informative.
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema A comparison between ZV-E10II`s Active and the ZV-E1`s Dynamic Active would be perfect. Also with Sony lenses vs with third party ones
For travelers on the go,in my opinion,the ibis worths the difference of price.... A pity that I dont like the magenta dominant color of sonys cameras... I even prefer the blue of the lumix which have very often a better stabilisation. The fuji x100 has a single focal length....not easy to compose a picture. I like the canon colors even if I must put a little bit more blue and less yellow. Unfortunately canon is sleeping and doesnt seem to deliver something else thant big eos R. Canon is the leader for frustrating its customers..... Always a feature lacking or never in time.....
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema just buy a gimbal but imo a camera which is targeting vloggers should have IBIS otherwise it doesn’t matches what its promoted to be. using it as streaming or studio cam would be just fine.
Is there any difference in both camera's 4k footage in terms of sharpness? and also does electronic shutter effect in video, specifically low light (like will I get banding in videos)?
You’ll get banding in videos in both. There is variable shutter mode to dial in the shutter speed to sync with your electronic devices to remove banding. Sharpness is pretty much the same. Footage is practically identical
I considered this over the A6700…until I saw it only has a digital shutter. I use my camera primarily for still photography, and having to deal with rolling shutter in stills is a total non-starter.
@@matthartman7062 in my opinion 8 bit 4:2:0 4k 30fps is not even close to 10bit 4:2:2 4k 60fps. When you think about that, $300 is pocket change. Image quality upgrades are very significant
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema I completely agree. 10-bit 422 is a good improvement and brings the camera to modern standards, but shouldn’t upgrades be improvements, besting the product it replaces? I guess as a consumer, I have gotten used to companies like Apple releasing upgraded products with new tech at similar price points, with of course some notable exceptions.
@@JasonMorrisphotocinemaI agree that the upgrades are substantial but I would say it's a $400-500 price increase. The mark 1 is pretty old now and the used market for the Mark 1 has them selling for around $500 compared to the $1000 of the mark 2
I own Sony ZVE10 original and its great. I wanted to buy mark II. But I am very upset, that they have removed mechanical shutter! Why? I wanted to use it on videos and for photos. Is it really such big problem for photos with Sony ZVE10 mark II without mechanical shutter?
price. Removing the mechanical shutter made it cheaper to produce. the massive seller is the image quality. 10bit 4:2:2 plus 4k 60fps is very sufficient
Sony made a bad business decision. It should abolish one-inch CMOS cameras such as the ZV1, and design APSC CMOS on a body as small as the ZV1 that cannot change the lens. Then it will not require IBIS, but provide an ultra-wide-angle fixed-focus lens with an equivalent focal length of 18mm, and then Use powerful electronic anti-shock to crop the picture, and finally obtain an equivalent focal length of 20mm. This will be the best Vlogcam ever, because its APSC Cmos beats the DJI P3 and can achieve ultra-stable pictures. Then use the 40 million pixels Fujifilm Cmos to implement Power Zoom in the form of digital zoom.
not quite. Compared to the mark I it is leaps and bounds. The ZV-E10 II has its place within the line up and it is currently the cheapest 10bit 4:2:2 camera with 4k 60fps in sony's range
I don't think I will sorry. There just isn't enough need to promote such a poor kit lens. This lens should only be used if the person cannot afford anything else
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema ok! I got it:D id do it by my self as a fun thing :Dat least im pretty sure someone will do. And its funny cause i suppose ot will have a lot of views. There is a bunch of people who still use poor optics :D Greetins From Poland ❗😉💪
it has its place within the line up for sure. Its now currently sony's cheapest 10bit 4:2:2 4k 60fps camera which is prefect for beginners or B camera use
I think it's a perfect apsc video camera for a gimbal, monopod or a tripod. It beats a6700 with price. For professional work, also! No overheating! 10bit 4k60 is all what's needed and finally price below 1k$ for an apsc camera.
this can't be compared to the pocket 3. This sensor paired with what ever e-mount lens you have is far superior in image quality. OP3 has its limitations. just picking the right tool the individual needs and can afford
I own the ZV-E10 MK1 and the a6700, and I’ve got to tell you, I used to love the ZV-E10, but when I got my hands on the a6700, I just loved it. If you have the money, it is totally worth it to buy the a6700. However, if you are a beginner, I think the ZV-E10 is a fantastic camera to start with.
Are you talking about video or pictures? Does the 6700 have auto defocus button and stuff like that? I own the mark 1.
Same mk1 + Tamron 17-70 best combo.
Price difference between the two not worth the upgrade.
Did you encounter problems with overheating with A6700?
I think a ZV-E10 II is a heavily crippled camera which suitable only for begginer vloggers who are swithching from the smartphone to a real camera. Yes, you have here many features beyond the smartphones, but definitedly if you want to take good photos in many situations, the lack of EVF, the lack of IBIS and also ergonomics and dials,etc. really worth the additional 400 bucks for buying the a6700
these two cameras aren't the same. The ZVE10ii is made for vlog, that's why it doesn't have an EVF. The A6700 is more about a hybrid. Two completely different cameras.
My problem is that what you said holds true for the Mark I. The Mark II doesn't give enough upgrades to justify the added price.
I think that the mark ii is crippled just as mark i if we compare the current technology. Also for vloggers, the overheating problem in hot temperature environments is crucial, so the solution is the fx30 with a built-in fan. Also, if you are a vlogger that takes photos once a while, it's a very problematic camera
How about for users with the mk1?
It's a 400 dollar difference.
@@qq_02 10bit video 4k60 is a big upgrade
Many bloggers seem to defend Sony products, even when they have flaws. I suspect Sony pays bloggers a lot. The ZV-E10 II camera is too expensive. It lacks in-body stabilization. The good stabilization only works with Sony lenses, which are pricey. This makes the ZV-E10 II not a budget-friendly option anymore
You sure that active stability doesn’t work with other lenses
@@al3omda92 Active stabilization works also with 3rd party lenses (I own the Sigma trio). But it comes with a huge 1,5x crop. For me the major flaw of the ZV-E10 is the lack of Ibis and the poor battery life + no EVF (which would come handy in sunny days). Today Sony releases the ZV-E10 2nd gen at EUR 1000 here in Europe and still no Ibis. That's priced way too high compared to the ZV-E10 1st gen. My next camera will be the alpha 6700, without doubt.
there is 0% chance active stabilization only works with sony lenses. i have a ZV-E10 with a Sigma lens and active stabilization is available and works great.
@@al3omda92 it work with other lenses, but it perform a lot better with sony lenses
@@davidliu323 what sigma lens you use
I just do RUclips vids and make virtually no money doing it. So being a hobby video creator, the ZVE10 II was my upgrade plan. When it came out at $1000+ USD, I decided to buy either an a6400 or ZVE10 -- prices are a little wonky here in Phillipines, so just depends on which one is the best deal. Even 2nd-hand is OK. Good show as always ... Cheers
you won't go wrong with either choice my friend. Just have to be aware of the limitations and play to its strengths = Image quality
Better get the zve10 because of the catalyst browse gyro data it will make the video stable then a6400.
5:57 Out of all the reviewers I've seen mention the electronic shutter, only you mentioned the flickering! Boy am I glad I came across your review before going for the buy, or I'd be regretting it later! 🤣
if this matters to you than yes an mechanic shutter is better
you might as well re-title the video to Sony ZV E10 II vs Sony FX30 at this point lol
The lack of IBIS, EVF, physical shutter and AI chip on the ZV-E10II are pretty big omissions, but it's also worth considering the weight because the A6700 weighs pretty much the same as the full frame A7C range.
If you add all those things you have the A6700 and what would be the point in two identical cameras.
The correct launch price for ZV-E10ii under the current spec should have been $850, although I still think they intentionally cut too many corners that won't necessarily save them much cost.
I think you didn't mention it. ZV-E10 II has a tally light I think, which is nice. I'm still undecided which one to get, but I feel the A6700 is the better choice. There seem to be used ones on the market, fairly new, barely 50$ more than the ZV-E10 II
I didn't mention it. You are right. I pointed to it in the spec breakdown. Good spot there. I forgot! eep
Great review as always, found an A6700 new for £1135 against ZV-E10 £998 price can be closer than you think. I have original ZV-E10 if I upgrade I will definitely go for the A6700 😎
for table top content creator and gimbal users this is a slam dunk , esp with the better heat thermal ( which was confusing , i thought the a6700 lasted the same )
yeah i agree
Over heating is one drawback of the A6700. From what I have seen the A6700 over heats in 4k a lot quicker than the EV10 II.
3:56 what lens you used to capture the camera? Focal distance is wide and aperture is fast. Looks great 🔥
Hello everyone
I wonder why no one is talking about which camera is best for live streaming? I think many people use system cameras for live streaming, but it seems that not many people are interested in talking about how the cameras handle live streaming.
I talked about this in my initial review. Live streaming it is fine. Live streamers only require one thing and that is a camera that is reliable and no overheating. FX30 would be best out of these two
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema Thanks so much. I saw it too. Thanks for the reply.
@@JasonMorrisphotocinemaThanks so much. I saw it too. Thanks for the reply. Next question, I already have ZV E10, but want to upgrade. Should I wait for Fx30 ll, or buy now Fx30. Thank you so much for your reply in advance.
I have a secret crush on the FX3. Love that camera. I think the ZVE10 is perfect for content creators. If you want better stabilization with the E10II then get a gimbal. You need a gimbal anyway to look professional...lol
spoken like a true shooter. love this steve
I have a6000, a5100, zv e10 m1. Lack of EVF is a bit of a problem for photography guys. Just because of I couldn't afford I bought without evf. And always kind of a regret.
10:07 my old Sony a700 from 2011 already does that, i was very disappointed when i got an a77II and later a7III that it didnt rotate anymore :/ I really hope all those new Features will also make it to "older" cameras like a7cII/r, a7rV, a7IV etc but looking at Sonys track record of firmware updates i probably expect too much
Many 🧠less people feeling expert about cameras here LoL,
This is the fun fact: expensive Cameras needs high-end editing computer machine, You need a thousand Bucks to get your expectations from your expensive camera's... Don't settle to the opinion of fake experts, just find what camera that fits to your budget and make some tweaks for best results...
Thanks for covering it. New sub 👋
I was worried that I might have buyers remorse when they initially announced the mark II-having just upgraded to the 67000 from the mark I.. After seeing the recent spate of reviews, I feel that I made the right choice. Absolutely LOVE the 6700- and I don't think I could go back to not having viewfinder.
it really is a decent camera. Just have to be aware of the limitations it may have
A lot people reviews will be wrong about zve10 2 because you will produce same quality as the fx30. The zv can produce a lot for less. If you are professional you produce a lot of quality work. "Less for more"
i will defenitly buy this Camera
4 Miniutes present Sir 🤧❤
Legit question…if I’m using the ZV-E10 II as a B Cam on a gimbal or a tripod does it work? Or I should I go with the a6700?
4:25 At first I thought that this was shot with no stabilization at all! BTW, did you try to compare Active stabilization with native Sony lenses vs third party ones? I guess the footage came out so shaky because you used a third party lens.
i did do this in my initial review video. Used the Sirui 16mm F1.2 on the ZV-E10 II to see what it did
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema you mean the test in your car? Was it shot handheld by another person or using a tripod? Anyway, I can`t tell anything from that test. Even the standard OSS did well in it. A walking test with a third party lens would be much more informative.
@@good_morning504 I will see what I can do if I make another video. Considering comparing it to the ZV-E1 just to show differences
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema A comparison between ZV-E10II`s Active and the ZV-E1`s Dynamic Active would be perfect. Also with Sony lenses vs with third party ones
I have the ZV-E10 mk1. The lack of view finding is such a pain. The camera only does good in light and you can’t see the damn screen in the light
this is definitely better than rx100 vii
For travelers on the go,in my opinion,the ibis worths the difference of price....
A pity that I dont like the magenta dominant color of sonys cameras...
I even prefer the blue of the lumix which have very often a better stabilisation.
The fuji x100 has a single focal length....not easy to compose a picture.
I like the canon colors even if I must put a little bit more blue and less yellow.
Unfortunately canon is sleeping and doesnt seem to deliver something else thant big eos R.
Canon is the leader for frustrating its customers.....
Always a feature lacking or never in time.....
Magenta? Since the A7SIII, every single sony cameras that shoot in 10 bit got rid of the magenta dominant color
magenta color shift was with the 8bit camera. 10bit sony cameras are far different and colors are actually far more true to life
No ibis pretty much mean I can not use this camera for b roll shot. It is a tripod only camera for me. Very limited.
Or you could also use gyro data when shooting and stabilising afterwards in Catalyst Browse
Active is the same as active on a6700
@@mac24x7 A6700 has a mechanical axis stabilization which is far over the software stabilization options both come with. that’s we he complains
it just comes with more consideration on how to overcome no IBIS
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema just buy a gimbal but imo a camera which is targeting vloggers should have IBIS otherwise it doesn’t matches what its promoted to be. using it as streaming or studio cam would be just fine.
Is there any difference in both camera's 4k footage in terms of sharpness? and also does electronic shutter effect in video, specifically low light (like will I get banding in videos)?
You’ll get banding in videos in both. There is variable shutter mode to dial in the shutter speed to sync with your electronic devices to remove banding. Sharpness is pretty much the same. Footage is practically identical
I considered this over the A6700…until I saw it only has a digital shutter. I use my camera primarily for still photography, and having to deal with rolling shutter in stills is a total non-starter.
Why would you consider a video camera for stills photography. Yes the ev10-ii can take phots but it's purely aimed at video.
So disappointed Sony didn’t add IBIS, which is a no-go for me at this price point.
it is the price we pay to have a cheaper camera
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema yet, a $300 price hike from the mk 1. I feel like the $300 increase should have included IBIS.
@@matthartman7062 in my opinion 8 bit 4:2:0 4k 30fps is not even close to 10bit 4:2:2 4k 60fps. When you think about that, $300 is pocket change. Image quality upgrades are very significant
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema I completely agree. 10-bit 422 is a good improvement and brings the camera to modern standards, but shouldn’t upgrades be improvements, besting the product it replaces? I guess as a consumer, I have gotten used to companies like Apple releasing upgraded products with new tech at similar price points, with of course some notable exceptions.
@@JasonMorrisphotocinemaI agree that the upgrades are substantial but I would say it's a $400-500 price increase. The mark 1 is pretty old now and the used market for the Mark 1 has them selling for around $500 compared to the $1000 of the mark 2
I own Sony ZVE10 original and its great. I wanted to buy mark II. But I am very upset, that they have removed mechanical shutter! Why? I wanted to use it on videos and for photos. Is it really such big problem for photos with Sony ZVE10 mark II without mechanical shutter?
price. Removing the mechanical shutter made it cheaper to produce. the massive seller is the image quality. 10bit 4:2:2 plus 4k 60fps is very sufficient
planning to buy the zve10-ii. and about that banding, what can i do about it? what camera setting would i need to do when taking photos? TIA
you will just need to use variabl shutter. this help eliminate banding. very small amount of situations will require this
Does XCD-28P Len suit for a6700?
go for zv e10 or A6700
Sony made a bad business decision. It should abolish one-inch CMOS cameras such as the ZV1, and design APSC CMOS on a body as small as the ZV1 that cannot change the lens. Then it will not require IBIS, but provide an ultra-wide-angle fixed-focus lens with an equivalent focal length of 18mm, and then Use powerful electronic anti-shock to crop the picture, and finally obtain an equivalent focal length of 20mm. This will be the best Vlogcam ever, because its APSC Cmos beats the DJI P3 and can achieve ultra-stable pictures. Then use the 40 million pixels Fujifilm Cmos to implement Power Zoom in the form of digital zoom.
Sony hit the ZV-E10 so hard with the cripple hammer it turned into a web camera.
not quite. Compared to the mark I it is leaps and bounds. The ZV-E10 II has its place within the line up and it is currently the cheapest 10bit 4:2:2 camera with 4k 60fps in sony's range
Please make a vid of 16-50 old kit ve new 16-50 kit ;)
I don't think I will sorry. There just isn't enough need to promote such a poor kit lens. This lens should only be used if the person cannot afford anything else
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema ok! I got it:D id do it by my self as a fun thing :Dat least im pretty sure someone will do. And its funny cause i suppose ot will have a lot of views. There is a bunch of people who still use poor optics :D
Greetins From Poland ❗😉💪
No viewfinder is the dealbreaker for me.
If it was $850-900 it would be flying off shelves. Its too close in price to the a6700 that has a big used market now
They shouldn’t have made this camera like….. for real Sony…..
it has its place within the line up for sure. Its now currently sony's cheapest 10bit 4:2:2 4k 60fps camera which is prefect for beginners or B camera use
At this price (1200 euros) this camera doesn't make any sense. Just wait until black Friday and I bet it will be heavely discounted.
My total camera budget is less than 400$ 😩😩🤌
I think it's a perfect apsc video camera for a gimbal, monopod or a tripod. It beats a6700 with price. For professional work, also! No overheating! 10bit 4k60 is all what's needed and finally price below 1k$ for an apsc camera.
yeah for sure!
999$ Body Only just for vlogging, not worth it, better get the pocket 3 with 4k 60
this can't be compared to the pocket 3. This sensor paired with what ever e-mount lens you have is far superior in image quality. OP3 has its limitations. just picking the right tool the individual needs and can afford
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema I'd still skip the E10II and get Pocket 3 to pair with a6700.
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