Is the Lumix S5IIX Worth It? 3 Months Later
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2025
- How has the Lumix S5IIX treated me over the past 3 months of using it quite extensively? I am safe to say Lumix have done a really amazing job packing in a tonne of features while keeping it VERY affordable for a lot of people.
There are some quirks I have ran into and there are some things I don't like. Some features I don't like a I haven't listed because I know the camera is already maxed out with specs for the price. A higher end flagship version I would image fixes a lot of the issues I've had.
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1. "Creative Combine" is the setting where you tell the camera to separate the settings for photo and video and there on everything is separate for both modes. Just change the photo icon to video for the modes which you want seperate. 2. SSD recording is not just for the external recording, but you can also record 6K open gate in 422/10 bit on SSD along with many other higher bit rate recordings including 12bit BRAW, probably in 4:4:4, though not sure (if blackmagic monitors used). So this camera gives everything except the full frame slow motion and poor rolling shutter performance in fast panning. I have been enjoying this camera since last 1 year. This camera has lots and lots of settings beyond one can imagine.
Does the camera have phase detect in the HD resolutions as well?
I have heard it's switches back to contrast based af for HD resolution s & phase detect is only for the 4k modes.
Can anyone confirm if it's been fixed with an update? As S9 seems to have phase detect in both resolutions
Thank you!!!! There honestly needs to be a video about the creative combine setting. Watched too many videos that don’t state this. I’ll give it a whirl
Yes and it works just like the a7iv but the best thing is that it saves the lut your working in video and use a different one in photo mode.
@VisualsByPratik still goes to dfd...I heard it's a hardware limitation 😅
Yes! Terribly named and I just learned this a few months ago but it’s exactly what you’re looking for. Wish lumix made it more obvious!
I sold my Canon R6 for an S5IIX. Although there are some drawbacks, I find that the Lumix has too many great features that I now can't live without. I love how amazing the videos look and how stabilized my footage is without a gimbal.
what are the drawbacks?
@@NiisExperience The S5IIX has some delay when powering on. If you're looking to turn on and snap pictures, you'll have to give it a few seconds.
This is nitpicking but the autofocus from the R6 is a tad better and keeping track.
The ergonomics is also not as great. Once you throw on a cage, the ergonomics so be much better.
Even though I'm not with Lumix anymore I can appreciate what they brought to filmmakers. Great video!!!
A familiar face ! Small world ! 💪
Major props to you for having an edge light that’s motivated. Rarely see that in these kind of videos lol
Hey Jason, I use C1, C2, & C3 for my custom set ups. I have my photo set ups on C1 & C2 and use C3 for 60fps video. This is a quick way of changing between photography & video. Great content as usual.
Note: You can hook the S5 IIX up via HDMI to a Blackmagic Video Assist 12G and get RAW sensor output up to 5.9 k/29.97 fps and record as 12 bit BRAW, elevates the video image quality to another level.
This way you almost get a Blackmagic Cinema Camera BUT with usable AFC which the Blackmagic cameras unfortunately don’t have.
Do you notice any lag when using the video assist?
With audio it’s bad, with audio disabled it’s okay. I use the display of the camera itself for low-lag framing and the Video Assist for stuff like focus checking/false colors etc.
@@jessfilmdiaries When using the Video Assist 12G and with audio over HDMI enabled the lag is just fine to work with. Closer to Sony HDMI performance. The 7 inch Video Assist 12G has mini XLR inputs that i use, many times with a 3.5mm to mini xlr splitter depending on the mics i use. Much better motion with BRAW than the in-body processed (noise-reduction and stabilization) recording. But you do lose some features when using recording over hdmi.
c1--c2-c3 for save diferent exposure or setting (fast dial)
Still not the most intuitive nor practical design, compared to a photo/video switch, even with the help of shutter angle.
@@frankfeng2701 I prefer c1-c2 when photo/video switch on my Sony a7Iv
I had this camera for 2 months now. Great for run and gun, even mov quality is great been using only 10bit 422 All-I (havent got time to test prores with ssd yet, neither braw)
Pros:
- video quality, fast autofocus
- you can turn off/on ibis
- ibis and electronic stabilization are super almost gimbal like or even better depending
- made for videography, because handing camera with ibis is smooth and enables lot of immersive or artistic shots showing connections (especially with zoom lenses)
Only downsides for me:
- button layout is bit clumsy with certains buttons, like play and browsing images (I have used mainly canon cameras before which rock with button layout)
- sometimes lags with certain buttons (record lag like 1 sec, need to press certain way to change access rec options)
- rolling shutter in certain scenarios is horrible (But it happens like 1% of time/scenarios)
- power input is with usb-c, meaning you cant use ssd and charge cable sametime
The custom modes have worked super well for me as a 1-switch solution to switch from photo to video. I've got my v-log 24fps, 60fps, and 6k open gate in the 3 custom modes, and when I switch back to one of the photo modes that I've put in standard it snaps back instantly. It keeps the standard photo stuff as the base and the custom modes as the exception, and instantly switches to v-log in the custom modes.
Be sure to check your Custom settings and use the C1-5 on the dial. Make sure to overwrite the set to match the dial position. This is something that they introduced on the GH4 and it was so easy to switch quickly between photo modes and video modes.
Also I've been loving the 24mm 1.8, a fantastic complement to that 50mm
Wow I think that lag is a major bummer. Thanks for pointing that out. Went with the Fx3
Great video! The best way I found to switch between photo and video is through custom settings, I don’t think there’s any other way.
Try to disable audio over hdmi, that will help reduce the lag. But still there is some lag, but never bothered me though.
This is essential.
Thanks I was going nuts over this.
Is there lag if you are livestreaming over hdmi?
Fantastic camera
To switch quickly between photo and video mode I personally saved them to the custom dial slots for C1, C2, and C3. If you put the camera on video mode and put it at the base settings you want, you can then save it to a custom dial slot, and then i do the same for photo. That way if i want a dial to have a certain picture profile i save it to a custom slot, and note that c3 can have up to 10 custom settings files just for that one spot
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Yes! You go to wheel menu settings, first option, second tab... CreativeVideo Combined Set.
You change all the option to video camera and the last one.. AF Mode leave it on Photo camera-... and there you have the camera with the right function, video and photo separeted!
Greetings from Uruguay
for saving the photo mode you can always save your photography settings to a custom mode (C1, C2 or C3) I have the S5 and whenever i want to switch to the photo mode i just do that i hope this helps
You can switch from video to photography with different settings to your liking. Change the creative profile set.
Good info in this post! Can you do more GH 7 content?
You can also save your default settings for each of the dial modes...someone else mentioned "Creative Combine", which is part of it, but let's say I go to "M" for photos...once I have locked in my settings, I can save those settings, so every time I switch the camera to "M", it has those settings, I do the same thing for the video mode...
now, when I want to take photos, I go to M, when I want to take video, I flip the dial one position, and I have my video settings.
I set up my quick menu so I can switch between my aspect ratios and frame rates really quickly
Lastly, you can use the C1, C2, C3 custom modes to set them up to be whatever you want...
In any of these cases, I just turn the dial, and I am in the mode with the settings I want for the thing I am trying to do...
I personally just use "M" for photos, and "Video" for video, each of them has the settings set up the way I like them, and in video mode, I just swap through different frame rates and aspect ratios as needed using the quick menu
if I wanted to rig it up with a cage and all that stuff, which I find totally unnecessary for a lot of stuff, I would use the BlackMagic Video Assist 12G HDR to record RAW externally.
in fact, I didn't bother getting fast SD cards, because I will only use SSD or external recording for any of the really high bit rate stuff, I just use the SD cards for video and LongGOP stuff...and that works pretty well.
I currently own the 52X but I’m very excited to see what the S1H Mark 2, S1 or S1R Mark 2 bring to the table
I don't understand why you think there is a problem switching between photo and video or am I misunderstanding the issue! I have set up my customs modes for video and photo and set up how I want to handle each. I just switch between Custom 1 and Custom 2 (on the dial) to change how the camera operates and the appropriate settings I want for each.
Mine arrives in a week! I hope I made the right choice, all my Sony gear was stolen and I wanted to give the jump to full frame.
The Lumix is a fantastic choice, and sorry for your loss of gear! I have used the S5, S1, and now the S5iiX. Amazing cameras!
@@shazbk7616 thank you I Believe I made a good choice, time will tell.
Thank you for this Nice Video and the german Language
Yeah, you can setup your custom modes/settings on C1, C2, C3 on the mode dial and then you just turn it and you have your desired settings for V-Log, Luts, Photo etc.
If it works a similar way as A7 I don't like it because it changes all the settings. Lets say you want one for slomo and the other for normal, you set a white balance at the scene every time you switch to a custom mode it will reset you WB among anything else you did at the shoot.
@@petercofrancesco9812 No it will stay as you have set that on the Lumix. If you e.g.: Set a C1 mode on the dial to S&Q 120 fps FHD 422 with WB 4400K, ISO 400 it will not affect any of your other settings. When you are in simple Manual mode it will remain the same as you left previously, then you turn the dial to C1 and you have your settings that you have setup only for C1.
You go to Menu - Photo Style - change all settings you wish - set to custom mode - choose C1-C2-C3 - done.
Then you need to change all settings back to the original, but after that it won't affect anything anymore.
1. You have quick switch if you utilize Custom modes. Also if you are recording in similar enviroment often you can just save (or re-save) the ISO/S/A settings so you can just swap back and forth all day. I have C1 for photos (Neutral color, low ISO) C2 for standard videos (Vlog 4:2:2 10bit 24fps) and C3-1 for postproduction slow motion (Vlog 4:2:2 10bit 48fps).
2. The HDMI lag is super frustrating. Im doing automotive and if Im not in the trunk but on the seat I cant really see the action without the external monitor because the flip screen in the wind is just so annoying and small. Its ok as long as we are not recording some action like acceleration or fast pass by. I will try the HDMI audio warkaround though.
Great video, once again! Could you describe, or make a video about what AF setting you use for the different situations you mentioned?
I'm waiting to see what Lumix S1Hii vs the Sony a7V and/or Sony version of the FX3 provide. The next few months during 2025 should be interesting to say the least. The battle of the cameras! Wait, watch, stand back and pray we get some super duper camera upgrades! 😎😎
Great camera. But the HDMI lag is really bad for me
Great video and glad to see you enjoy the Lumix and also constructively point out the issues.
They've been pretty responsive to feedback. Just makes me wonder when they'll have an announcement.
Either way, Lumix have given us features at such a price point that empowers our creative choices and i think that gratitude is key.
turn the top mode dial to photo click in personal settings.....turn dial to video dial in your setting ...Manual photo use and setup auto setting in either A S P that closely relates to usual M usage dial the M settings you usually use in the image settings. that nearly match your preferred M ..then fluff around with aperture and shutter speed while in M.. There isn't a full preset M ..it is what you last set when in M.. maybe thats why Fuji is popular.. its a ready and easy to use stills camera
I got the nikonz6iii and if you are not 100% video specific i think its a better choice. i recorded lowlight video and there is no problem of noise if you use the correct settings
C1,C2,C3-X is the way to go you need to save it and after you need to check if You want to save WB SS and other on recall...it is much faster and you dial directly the mode you want...
Kind of ironic I like the "quick switch" issue. This is the only camera that lets you shoot a baked lut directly to jpeg. I find it annoying that on Sony cameras half the settings I use to get the best imagery in camera don't exist in photo mode. And switching between completely different Sony iso calibrations that don't make any sense are quite annoying.
I don't remember how, but you can separate the photo and video mode so that it remembers what settings you used in that particular mode. When I flick it into video it automatically chooses vlog with a 180 shutter angle (if that was my last used settings, usually is). Very handy. I use the same custom button layout in photo and video, so I don't know if you can have separate layouts for the two modes though. Maybe you can.
What great content 👍How does this compare with fx3 if budget not the issue is fx3 a superior camera for video and esp in terms of codecs
We need specific video both for "creative combine" as well as custom modes C1, C2, C3 as well as C3-1, C3-2 and C3-3
Do your clients ask for anamorphic? If not, what is your reason or use that would require this level of video production? Good show, thanks.
No. My clients definitely don’t ask for anamorphic. It’s a creative choice. Majority of the time I use my Sony cameras for a lot of paid client work
I watch a lot of your content...Keep it up
@@JasonMorrisphotocinemaMay I ask, which is the reason? Do you use de fx6 and equivalents or fx3 and below (I’m new here so sorry if you answered this previously)
I just use the C1,C2,C3 on the top knob. Probably not what your talking about lol. Monitor delay can be a huge issue for sure.
That would definitely do the trick I think if I used the custom dials. Does it do enough to keep the settings separate? I’ll have to try
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema I haven't messed with it in a while but I do remember that when setting up a video profile on the customs the shutter button couldn't be used to start video I had to hit the smaller video record button.
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema i set C1 for photo (any prefered Picture Profile and auto iso), C2 for 4k/25p low base iso (vlog) and C4k/25p High base iso (vlog), and and it works flawlessly, i can quickly switch between C1 to C3 depending on situations.
@@SteveWB there is a setting that either allows or doesn't allow the shutter button to be used to start video recording.
Yes it does you have 12 C values in total
1. C1
2. C2
3. C3 has the ability to have 10 available not just 3. @@JasonMorrisphotocinema
Waiting for Lumix to bring out a 60fps non cropped camera.
Like the GH7? No crop at 4K 60, or 120p. (Also 300fps in 1080p) Much harder to do with older FF sensors.
@ Hoping for a new S1 mk2
@@seasideshutterworx hoping for an S2h or S1h mk II
Hey Jason, thanks so much for this video! I need help please haha. I shoot more run and gun content within a focus on sports like boxing and calisthenics. How's the rolling shutter in this camera in comparison to the Sony A7IV? I'm stuck between the purchasing either of these two🙏🏾
09:30 I don’t get why people prefer cf express over sd cards. SD cards are cheaper, give enough quality and every MacBook can read them. I prefer the convenience
save the setting into Custom setting C1 C2 C3 can save all differernt setting and mode, and quick switch in real time.
Is the Moire issue significant in your opinion or are you just careful what/how you shoot? I’ve been tempted by this for a while but feel the S1H mk2 is only just around the corner. Great video as always
I encountered Moire couple of times in photos and in a very few video clips in last one year of usage. Initially I got worried but it didn't turn out bothersome. Its very very rare. Later I learnt that the issue is there with every camera with high resolution sensor. Thats the reason Sony is still using the 12MP sensor in most of their video cameras. Even few photos I clicked on my one decade old Nikon DSLR with 16MP Sony sensor also produced few rare images with moire where dense patterns were present. Only and only downside in S5IIX is no full frame slow-motion and poor rolling shutter during very fast panning, which again is the side effect of high resolution sensor.
Moire only affects videographers. Actual client don’t even know what moire is or notice it. It would be nice to have an AA filter though
@@JasonMorrisphotocinemacouldn’t have said it better myself, moire is only affected on videos and yes the client won’t even know what to look for when you mention “sorry there’s a bit of moire” 😅
Bro I had the moire completely ruin a corporate shoot. Like completely. None of the footage was usable. Business suits(MASSIVE MOIRE) and talking head were completely shot. I obviously have a bad taste in my mouth about it. I’m not saying never again but I will wait for the s1hii before trying lumix again
How good is the low light performance of the S5llX? I would like to buy one to film my outdoor trips in the woods and the mountains in very difficult low light conditions. Can i crunk up the iso to 12800 or higher to get good or acceptable footage by night or late evening? Thanks for your amazing vids! 🤠🙏 Keep the good work! 👍🔥
yes you will be fine at 12800
@@ShellyBHollisAgreed. Just got mine and very happy with it. I was back and forth between the S5iix and fx3 but because I’ve been doing a lot of social media videos for clients as of late the S5iix had the features I needed and felt better value for money. And eventually I plan on getting the Pyxis so my glass will be good for both systems
@@ShellyBHollis thanks 🙏
@@najere8737 thank you 🙏👍
Among the best there is. It's fantastic and with the right lenses you won't have any complaints.
We have been requesting an hdmi lag fx since the s1h release 😢 yet they only managed to make it worst with the s5ii 😅 lumix is weird. They seem to put tons of features but yet dnt fix the essentials....
5:00 fuji xm5.
6.2k open gate at 25/30p 10bit 4:2:2 internal
BRAW and ProResRaw through HDMI to an external recorder
FF price points.
@@hasimhalim5016 for 799 it's a steal, I can deal with an APSC sensor for that price. And the image quality is top notch
overheat after 10-15 mins...no anamorphic mode , worse af-c, no ibis . fuji is being fuji
@@hasimhalim5016 $799
@@mex5341 no overheating in most modes, and you can always put the fan if needed. The AF-C in video is far better now, still behind the other brands but it's very close. Try it. No IBIS, but for the price point is ok, much pricier cameras have no IBIS, and being so small and light you can use a smaller gimbal if needed. No anamorphic mode, but you can de squeeze in post as always has been done.
I own an original S5, but going for the Nikon Z6 III next.
If you are mainly doing video, it's sadly a downgrade 😢
@@ludovicavice3496 I only record videos. I don't take photos. Panasonic has no lenses in their lineup. I wouldn't be caught dead with Sigma
@@ludovicavice3496i think the z6 iii is a beast in video😊
Can you please make us a lider rig video with the Lumix s5iix
7:50 About the lag try using another HDMI cable, i think that red cable you're using is too slim, or another monitor i think black magic good ones
The HDMI latency to external recorder would bug the hell out of me.
same thing goes for the video mode
Hi. Does it allow to record to the ssd and internal sd simultaneously as back up?
Thanks
@@alex-bohorquez-jimenez unfortunately not.
You can record to the SSD, and record a proxy (say 1080p) to your SD card, you just have to set up proxy recording. This allows you to offload a smaller proxy file for someone to edit without having to ship out the full sized clips, and also acts as an emergency backup. Similarly you could record Cinema 4K to one card and a 1080p proxy to the second SD card…there are some constraints to this so check the manual.
Other feature not mentioned in the video but making this an exceptional “one (hybrid) camera to rule them all” is the high res still images of 90+ mp which is wicked for product and landscape photography. 😊
@MoffatCreative that could save the day.
Is one of those constraints the 50/60p recording or you can get proxies with that frame rate?
@@alex-bohorquez-jimenez with the .MOV container you can do 24/30/60p All-I 800Mbit 4K or C4k to the SSD and proxy internally, or 24/30/60p All-I 600Mbit 4K or C4k internally to one card and proxy to the other. So the limitations appear to be with proxies only 16:9 or 17:9 ratios are allowed on MOV, and only 30/60/24fps. (Not 48) some S&Q seem to be allowed as well.
In Pro Res looks like only 30/60/24 fps is allowed and only at 17:9 ratio and still have proxies internally.
@MoffatCreative great info. So no really a back up, since there's no way to get any slow mo.
What about recording to both ssd and an external recorder through the hdmi, ninja type, could that solve the problem?
Are you able to get 4k 120 with the video assist?
The average viewers will not know the difference. Only we will...
Jason what’s the aspect ration for this video?
I think it’s 18:9
@ thank you
Nice! I love my Lumix cameras, but im hesitant to invest in too much L mount glass because there isn't a good upgrade path. No proper cinema camera witht internal NDs and XLRs. Hopefully they'll make one soon or I'll probably get an FX6!
Take a look at the Blackmagic Cinema Camera 6K FF it uses L mount :)
@@ed61730 it looks good, but I really want something with internal NDs. Otherwise I'm happy with L Mount, but may switch at some point if they don't offer it.
@@BenPhanStudios Interested in knowing the need for internal Nds? I've always though its best to decide what nd to use for the right purpose/ action.
I shoot a lot of documentaries where I'm quickly going from a bright environment to a dark environment (or vise versa). I hate having to stop and deal with a screw on filter. It's not the end of the world, I can still get what I need, but I've decided the next camera I buy will have internal NDs. I shoot on the FX6 sometimes and it's so nice to have.
HDMI needs to be fixed...
No G Master lenses…🤷♂️
thanks God!
I love my lumix but Vlog looks gross and it’s such a waste of time having to grade every single shot for ages. It’s so muddy and green and skin never ever looks good out the camera.
I don't know, you speak so much about value meaning that it is a nice camera for beginners or people who don't earn money with video and then you keep telling how good it is with anamorphic lenses and somebody goes to look up a set of anamorphs and it's 10K or just a little bit less. I kinda think that anamorphic lenses is still a rather niche thing and most people just don't use them (especially how very few autofocus anamorphs out there, and AF is usually crucial for "one man band" creators)
if you want the best work arund to not has Lag monitoring use a iphone lol idk why but it's crazy good with that
Boot up lag , software lag !!!!?
Yes is fucking worth it!!! But your click bait ain’t!!!
Huh?
Where to get that t shirt?!!!!
ruclips.net/video/J6YUDq1vW7E/видео.html. ....set your foto mode on C1 and video C2 and so on...some settings will get carried over from each other, there is some menu option to choose which one is for foto and which for video
Learn your equipment brother
This open gate mania is all over the comments and videos now. Not just this video but all full frame Lumix videos. All of a sudden everyone is an "anamorphic fan". Since there is no auto ND in this "I do everything" camera what good is it for to have shutter angle? Just pathetic.
Mainly because anamorphic is now affordable
This sounds like a jealous comment
@@daniellrodriguezs Well, maybe instead of appealing to emotion, you can enlighten us how to change your ND filters fast enough with your constant 180 degree shutter angle to keep your exposure levels constant huh? As far as I know only person can do that on earth is the quicksilver from X-men. 🤣
@@sertocdyou thought you cooked huh? Bro has never heard of a variable nd filter. You have no idea what you’re talking about, and your obsession with trashing on shutter angle highlights that.
@@sertocdshutter angle has nothing to do with ND filters