Panasonic Lumix S5 II for PHOTOGRAPHY review: BEST value full-frame vs R6 II A7 IV?
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- My Panasonic Lumix S5 II review! In-depth look at the photo and focusing vs R6 II and A7 IV
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00:00 - Introduction
00:33 - Lumix S5 II Phase Detect autofocus at last!
03:19 - Lumix S5 II body design and controls
06:39 - Lumix S5 II viewfinder and screen
07:49 - Lumix S5 II card slots, ports and battery life
09:31 - Lumix S5 II L-mount and lenses
10:31 - Lumix S5 II sensor and photo options
12:49 - Lumix S5 II photo quality vs High Resolution mode
14:27 - Lumix S5 II resolution vs EOS R6 II and Sony A7 IV
15:57 - Lumix S5 II noise high ISO vs EOS R6 II and Sony A7 IV
17:30 - Lumix S5 II RAW dynamic range
17:59 - Lumix S5 II IBIS stabilization
19:10 - Lumix S5 II autofocus AF
19:59 - Lumix S5 II subject detection
21:54 - Lumix S5 II face, eye and human detection autofocus
23:53 - Lumix S5 II vs EOS R6 II vs Sony A7 IV face and eye tracking
24:55 - Lumix S5 II burst shooting speed
27:21 - Lumix S5 II action photography bikes
28:31 - Lumix S5 II birds in flight wildlife photography
29:30 - Lumix S5 II rolling shutter electronic skewing
30:40 - Lumix S5 II photo modes
31:20 - Lumix S5 II bracketing
31:38 - Lumix S5 II focus bracketing
33:19 - Lumix S5 II verdict and sample images
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My Panasonic Lumix S5 II review! In-depth look at the photo and focusing vs R6 II and A7 IV
Lumix S5 II at B&H: bhpho.to/3QbvcuV // WEX UK: tidd.ly/3GDqEKx
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00:00 - Introduction
00:33 - Lumix S5 II Phase Detect autofocus at last!
03:19 - Lumix S5 II body design and controls
06:39 - Lumix S5 II viewfinder and screen
07:49 - Lumix S5 II card slots, ports and battery life
09:31 - Lumix S5 II L-mount and lenses
10:31 - Lumix S5 II sensor and photo options
12:49 - Lumix S5 II photo quality vs High Resolution mode
14:27 - Lumix S5 II resolution vs EOS R6 II and Sony A7 IV
15:57 - Lumix S5 II noise high ISO vs EOS R6 II and Sony A7 IV
17:30 - Lumix S5 II RAW dynamic range
17:59 - Lumix S5 II IBIS stabilization
19:10 - Lumix S5 II autofocus AF
19:59 - Lumix S5 II subject detection
21:54 - Lumix S5 II face, eye and human detection autofocus
23:53 - Lumix S5 II vs EOS R6 II vs Sony A7 IV face and eye tracking
24:55 - Lumix S5 II burst shooting speed
27:21 - Lumix S5 II action photography bikes
28:31 - Lumix S5 II birds in flight wildlife photography
29:30 - Lumix S5 II rolling shutter electronic skewing
30:40 - Lumix S5 II photo modes
31:20 - Lumix S5 II bracketing
31:38 - Lumix S5 II focus bracketing
33:19 - Lumix S5 II verdict and sample images
Music: www.davidcuttermusic.com / @dcuttermusic
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Thrilled to finally order one of these! Came with a free 14-28! I was aiming for the X, but the best deal was for the core version.
@@fellowcitizen did you order just now? There's a really good deal in the UK at the moment.,..
Yes!💖 In Australia the 20-60mm kits for the S5II & S5IIx are very nicely discounted, and come with a bonus 14-28mmF4-5.6💎 @@cameralabs Time to re-watch your videos!
@@fellowcitizen I promise to make my S5 II movie mode review soon!
Marvellous! @@cameralabs
This is the GOLD STANDARD of reviews! Thank you for focusing on the photo side as well!
Thankyou, and you are very welcome!
Right, now it's time to watch the OG Camera RUclipsr's vid! And I'm coming to Brighton for those Easter Eggs BTW. 👍
It'll help you get to sleep if nothing else. My video that is, not the eggs. They're delicious!
Who is that?
@@mostlymessingabout you don't know Kai Wong? You must be new here. Check out his channel, and his mate, @Lok Cheung.
@@mostlymessingabout yep, Kai's a legend around these parts, started on Digital REV in Hong Kong before going solo back here in the UK. He's a good fella. Slightly different style to me!
This is amazing. My two favorite reviewers. I just said so in a comment in a smaller RUclips channel that these are the 2 best and most honest in the business and Kai shows up on Gordon’s channel.
Super happy to see Panasonic is serious about improving their cameras. They have no intention of exiting this market, and their success is good for all of us.
Panasonic might even grab a bigger share of the market.
@B Basleigh Compared to which camera of Fuji. It lands in the middle of the XH2S and XH2. The XH2S seems to be a better video camera with no rolling shutter. The XH2 has higher megapixels and a higher pixel shift that's less video-centric. Then changing systems and investing in new lenses won't be affordable. Only new enthusiasts or someone not vested in the Fujiverse would benefit from a switch to Panasonic. Both Fuji X models seem to have better autofocus. Excellent fair balanced presentation Gordon.
@@technodronesogxl9783it’s full frame camera 😂
all they need now is to release an APC camera.
The amount of information and testing you've done and put in this video is incredible.
Thanks, it took AGES!
I got my preorder in - so excited! Everything I could have wanted and more - thanks for the excellent coverage as always Gordon
You're welcome, it was a LOT of work!
The most comprehensive video I’ve seen so far👏🏻
Great video, Gordon! Looking forward to the Video-Centric review 🎉
I'm looking forward to that as well.
Thank you for another thoughtful and complete (and trustworthy) review! I am particularly happy that you cover the focus bracketing abilities of cameras as no one else does. The fact that this camera will allow focus bracketing with flash is huge for me and I don't think I would have known about it in any other way. Kudos!
You're welcome, it's a nice feature!
Great objective and comprehensive review as usual. Thank you heaps, Gordon.
Great news for Panasonic and their customers 👍
The best real world review i have seen on this camera! Thanks for your massive effort on this. Now subscribed!
Thanks, it was a lot of work!
AF finally looking great on Lumix! I feel like this is gonna be a reeeeaaaallly exciting year in the camera world!
This was the secret camera I was testing!
@@cameralabs so I gather! I was thinking it was either Sony or Panasonic for why so many people were about in Japan, ha!
Gordon, I want to thank you for creating this video, your content is unique and your opinion is very valuable to me.
Thanks, i appreciate your kind words!
Fantastic review. The most comprehensive I’ve watched and definitely not too long!
The S5ii looks great, I’m really impressed by it. Amazing how a change like PDAF makes such a difference to the overall package. A lot of the pros existed for a while, such as IBIS performance, lens selection (vs Canon), video performance, colour/image quality. PDAF just makes it a much more viable package, well done Panasonic.
It's a really solid proposition - thanks for watching!
This video was outstanding and became the verdict on me choosing the S5II after months of research. Thank you and I love your videos!
You're welcome!
Excellent. Answered all my questions. I'm intrigued enough to consider purchasing. Thanks Gordon!
You're welcome!
Gordon, You are the best in accurate review of cameras without the nonsense.
Thanks, I appreciate your comment.
Bonus points for me! Great review by the Master of great reviews 👏 Can't wait for these changes to filter down to the G line.
Bonus points on their way!
I'm looking forward to having your book - just ordered it today. I'm sure I'll learn something more from you. All the best from Texas.
Thanks, I hope you enjoy it!
Great review as always. One thing to note for the Panasonic, while it's true that Sony and Panasonic both have access to Sigma lenses, L-Mount Sigmas are considered native lenses, not third party, so they have better performance on Panasonic bodies than they would on Sony, and have access to the full burst rates of cameras as well as teleconverters.
Hmmm, interesting point, I've not looked into the differences between L and e-mount versions of DG DN lenses.
@@cameralabs There could be more nuance to what I am saying, but from my understanding Sony limits what third party manufacturers can do with their mount, such as not allowing teleconverters and capping burst rates. I don't think L-Mount has these same limitations.
@@nickcarneyphotography I'll look into it further...
Thanks for a great review Gordon. It helped me finalize my decision to buy the Lumiz S5ll. Waiting for the pkg to arrive! Happy Holidays!
Hope you enjoy it! Check out the multitude of Sigma L mount lenses for it!
I use hi-res regularly for interiors, it's excellent. If there's plenty of light high resolution handles exterior movement reasonably well too, as multi-exposure happens in a much briefer time, with clouds for example. As a non-vlogger upgrades from my S5 aren't essential, but the Mk II looks a nice cameras.
Perfect. Proud Lumix user for years. Never looked back!
aaah Gordon what a brilliant, thorough review! I've learned so much watching this! It was a pleasure to meet you in Tokyo! - Emily 📸
Thanks! Bonus points if you made it to the end! Great to meet you too!
Happy New Year and thank you for your usual thorough review of the Panasonic S5ii.
This looks like a smashing hybrid body. We all knew Panasonic would eventually use phase detection so I’m glad they got around to it. I am not in the market for a full frame body. I use M43 bodies so maybe phase detection will be added to the G9ii or G10 when that comes out.
Hard to believe this body presents at $2000 when the Fuji XT5 is a little cheaper and the XH 2 & S are a little more expensive. This body will give them a run for the money.
Again, thank you for your review. I now know what I’m missing by staying with my Fiji XT4 & XS10. Hope this will be the best year yet.
Mask On Nurse Marty
Thanks Marty
I am now adding Panasonic on my list. I love the Sigma lenses but require good video AF. So now, Panasonic seems good enough and that is great! Thanks for another great video Gordon!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love it!
Great watch, didn't feel a minute longer than 10min.
Very informative and thorough. I've learnt more about the S5II than I ever would from the manual and I've enjoyed it, unlike any manual. Great sample photos at the end.
Thanks Pav, glad you liked it! It was rather long, so thanks for watching! It was nice to go through those photos from Fuji-San, although so many of mine were similar to each other, I didn't include too many at the end. Nice to have some nature in there though, right?! Hope you liked my Kyoto shots too! (I noticed your Fuji shots in your video!)
Yet another exhaustive and fine review Gordon! Thank you so much! And snow in Brighton !!?? Regards form snowy Sweden !
It did get a little frosty here!
Thank you Gordon. A very thorough review that is bound to be the best review of this camera.
Thanks Chris, that's very kind!
Thanks for doing a photography-oriented review. Great stuff!
You're welcome!
Great comparasion and review. I'd be happy to see some portrait comparasion between these 3, also some grading test to see the color science
The most detailed and ethics review. thanks!!!
You're welcome!
Thank you for the review. The autofocus of Panasonic cameras was the biggest problem to solve. So it’s very good news ! Just pitty than they offered this new technology on a full frame model and not on the gh6. The expectation and hope was more important on M43 sensor. But it’s very personal :)
I hope Panasonic does a G9 mark II with a stacked sensor like OM-1 and include phase detect autofocus. Currently very happy with G9 apart from the video auto focus.
Thank you, G L. I hope you have more on this s5ii in the near future. I'd like to follow you as I will get this tonight.
Gordon, you are the BEST camera reviewer - by far - on RUclips. Another thorough, amazing job. Also appreciate the comparison with likely rivals from Canon and Sony. Thank you.
Thanks, you're very welcome!
As always, one of the very best reviews on the internet.
Thankyou!
I so have to retire my D810 and get this Lumix beauty. Brilliant review Gordon! Glad I came upon your channel!
Glad you found my channel!
Another brilliant review! Thank you.
Thankyou!
Another fantastic review, thank you! I'm a stills photographer and really appreciate the depth of information you provide. I picked up an S1R at a ridiculously low price last summer, but this could really tempt me as a second body, maybe with Sigma's 28-70 mm f2.8 lens.
Thanks, and the S5 II + 28-70 2.8 is a great combo! I have it ion front of me!
Great detailed review as usual Gordon! It was great meeting you in Japan
Thanks Richard, great meeting you too! So nice to reconnect with people from NZ!
Gracias Gordon! Estaba esperando tu review desde Argentina!
You're very welcome and congrats on the football too!
very good and in-depth review. top job mate
Thanks!
Gordon, great review and superb amount of information. This looks like a very nice upgrade. I did wonder whether Panasonic would ever move to phase detect. In previous years I would have been frustrated by this upgrade as a S5 owner, but my S5 is more than I need for photos along with the 20-60 + 70-300. If they did finally decide to make a G9 mkii with phase detection, this would be awesome for motorsport with the 2:1 focal length, and a tempting buy as a 2nd camera.
Thanks, yes, I hope it comes to MFT as well.
Thank you sir for this very informative review 👍!
Gordon, I absolutely love your approach to camera and lens reviews. I'd love to see you do a follow up video on the S5ii for it's latest firmware update, since it seems some of these things have changed or improved a significant margin. Regardless, love the content.
Thanks! I actually got about halfway through a review of the video features but got distracted! I'll hopefully pick it back up again and include some new fw tests, like the improved video stabilisation
After having both the S5 and S5 II for a couple of months, I decided to sell my original S5 (after owning it for 5 months) since it spent more time sitting on the shelf. The S5 II's new auto focus is the compelling feature for me.
Really good review; thanks!
Great review Gordon, thanks! 👍S5 II looks unbeatable in that price tag.
Thanks for watching!
Excellent review as usual Gordon. Looking forward to the video capabilities review, might bring me back to Panny since jumping ship two years ago. My invite to Japan must've got lost in the post...
Glad you liked it Alan, and thanks for the coffee donation too, much appreciated!
I will say that the Panasonic DFD is very solid for contrast detect AF and if they added phase detect or hybrid AF it should be one of the best out there. I am hoping for a G9 II or somethings with the updated hybrid AF and maybe improvement on the ISO. Nice videos as always. You are my #1 source to decide buying equipment.
Thankyou!
Happy with the G9ii? 😊
I'm having a hard time choosing between the g9II and this one; witch is better for low light when Im out hiking, and for astro/starry skies / aurora? I feel my g90 is not up for it🧐
Thank you. This is the best comparison of the pixel shift mode I've found. It really seems to be a large improvement under the right circumstances.
Yep, if the subject isn't moving, it can do a great job.
Wow, it seems the mirrorless world has reached cruise speed. So many impressive new kits from practically all brands!
Excellent review!
Thanks!
Excellent Gordon...thank you!
You're welcome!
Thank you for this video. Your comparison at 15:36 with the charts made my day. I am a visual artist who archives my oil paintings for print as well as shooting static diomaras and maquettes on a tripod. The high resolution mode of the S5ii seems like it was made for people like me, as well as video, live-streaming etc. I'm going to purchase the S5iiX asap.
Ive watched like 15 videos prior to this and I thought I can't learn anything new about the S5 ii but you proved me wrong! I can say you've managed to make the most detailed review out of all the videos Ive watched
Thankyou, that's my aim! Hope you enjoy my other reviews...
@@cameralabs I'm debating between Sony A7iii and the Lumix S5 ii. I know the S5 ii is the better camera by far but the auto focus still worries me a little since I plan on using it a lot for work and personal projects. Would you say it's on the level on the Sony when set on the higher speeds of AF and the proper AF settings ?
@@lubostoev9924 yep, definitely on par with A7 III.
@@cameralabs okay thanks a lot
Excellent review, well done!
Thanks! I am actually still working on the video half!
Thanks Gordon, I dropped off for a few minutes but that was due to jet lag. Woke up and made it to the end.because it was so interesting. Happy 2023!
Hmmmmm, I may need you to go back and watch the bits you missed. It may have been more than you think! But good effort none the less!
@@cameralabs Thanks Gordon! will do 🙂
Terrific video, Gordon!
Thanks Gerald, that's very kind of you to say! I should add yours was the first I watched today and I found it very useful - I hadn't noticed you could unlock >30min for 6k, so that was a useful tip, thanks! I have a load of video-based results for a possible second review, but one weird thing I noticed was the AF in 1080 50 was slower than 4k 50. I realise 1080 100 uses DFD / CDAF, so looks different to the PDAF modes, but I was surprised to find 1080 50 looking similar to 1080 100 for AF. Sadly neither good enough for slowmo action of moving subjects in my tests, but in a nice bonus, you do get audio at 100p like Sony. Anyway, thanks for dropping by!
great review, Gordon :)
Thankyou!
Mr Laing, if youtube does not pay you enought, and social media is not recognizing your work, i just want to remind you that youre one of the greatest camera reviewers of all this platform, thanks for your hard work, please continue giving great images of the cameras, and your sincere opinion, just dont forget to use some os the "british humor" that we all enjoy. sorry if im not writing correctly, this is not my native lenguage. Panasonic was the first brand i put my eyes on, and still like it a lot. i tell my friends if you want to record video use a lumix camera. My best regards from CR.
Thankyou for your kind words (and excellent English!)
Hurrah for your stills photography focussed (no pun intended) reviews. I sometimes feel I'm the only one who reckons there are more photographers than videographers, no matter what most RUclips channels think...
Yeah, I think that too!
Good job as usual!
Thanks!
thanks Gordon great review of the photography capabilities of the S5II. As someone with minimal interest in video this was very informative thank you. Your review has prompted some serious thinking on whether or not I need a FF to supplement my mainly Lumix MFT set up - I'm too committed and enjoy some of the cheap and cheerful MFT lenses to play around with to completely change systems. The S5 has always interested me as menus and ergonomics similar to my current G9 and G85 - with the S5II may be a few bargain S5s to be had and I don't think I'd miss PDAF - already in Australia I've seen new S5 with 20-60mm lens at only just over half the price of the S5II with the same lens - tempting....
Sure, if you don't need PDAF then the older S5 could be a bargain!
Thanks for the early review! It looks like a really good camera and a nice upgrade.
It seems like the new AF works well, and let's remember that Panasonic are very good at firmware updates. I'm sure they will tweak the focus performance 👍🏻
Yes, I hope so... they're also open to feedback.
Hello I have Lumix S5 mark II and i can't open RAW files in Lightroom, previous I have S5 and there is no problem with them...
You have a brand new camera that's not supported yet! Give it time, Adobe support will come soon
very thorough examination! I am a micro 4/3s guy, but I find this interesting because I like to know what the manufacturer of my camera system is doing in the bigger picture. It looks to me that Panasonic is taking things very seriously. This might not transfer well for micro4/3s, but Panasonic is well into the game of making cameras for the future.
Have heard its going into all their hybrid cameras
Always seen the great benefits of LUMIX Cameras. The reason I've been using them for 8 years now. I have never been turned off by their DOD AF however PD AF is a GAME CHANGER for Panasonic as it will put them up in the TOP 4 FF Camera Brands by 2024 with new models coming.
Thank you for a superb, thorough review. What firmware version did your Panasonic Lumix S5 II have? What do you think of the ease of use of the menus of the S5 II, R6 II, and A7 IV?
Good and complete review, thank you
You're welcome!
Great review Gordon
Thanks!
wow that was an great review Top notch
Thankyou!
Great video. Thank you sir 🙂🙏🏼
Awesome review Gordon!
Thanks Ben, it's another monster that took weeks to put together!
Hi.
With what model of flash have you tested that it can be used in focus stacking mode?
I've tried a Godox v350o and it doesn't work, even though I use the mechanical shutter. The flash does work in slow burst mode if the mechanical shutter is used.
If I use the Godox MF12 with the XPro-O trigger, no mode works (focus stack mode and slow burst mode). In this case, possibly the problem is the trigger.
Thank you so much.
Like pretty much everyone, I'm glad to see that Panasonic is going the way of the phase detect AF.
This is a very comprehensive and detailed review. I appreciate that you included the Canon R6 II and the Sony A7 IV for comparison.
I'm into wildlife photography, so your discussion of the abilities of the S5 II in that respect is also much appreciated.
Thanks for the great work!!
You're very welcome! So are you thinking it's good enough for your wildlife work, or will you go for something else?
@Gordon Laing I was an early adopter of the Panasonic G9 for all of its qualities (compact, lightweight, very good ibis...) and shot for a few years with the very good Leica 100-400mm. But after seeing how Sony, Canon and more recently Nikon (Z9) raised the bar for animal eye detect AF (very useful for fast moving subjects like birds in flight) and that the GH6 didn't include PDAF or a significant improvement in animal eye detect AF, I got tired and switched to the Canon R7 with the RF 100-500mm.
Would I go back to Panasonic? Only if they could compete with the likes of Canon for animal eye detect AF in the mft format...
Again, thank you for your excellent reviews.
@@PaulBawby I think you should try the S5 II if you can, to see if it's good enough - I bet they'll do some trial offers.
Thank you Gordon. I watched your review twice as we’re considering this camera as one for our global creative, documentary, reporters who will globally be creating content on global events. We’ve been working on this project for 3 years. Natural Language AI for translation for a content and news service managed professionally. The S5II X looks to likely be the better choice.
The S5II X is better if you want the external ProRes and RAW video (actually you'll be able to firmware update the S5 II for RAW as well, but at that point you may as well have bought the X)
Thanks Gordon. Two questions please. Can focus bracketing be used with high resolution mode? Is S5II capable of USB tethering?
Good morning sir... How are you? Im one of your follower way back 2011 learning basic photography. The Sony a230
that you review that was also my first camera and holds the Grand Prize and runner winner in a photo contest way back then. Now I'm a wedding and events photographer, videographer/editor. Thank you for sharing your knowledge master🙏👌 God bless!!!
Thanks for following for so long!
Thank you for another thorough review! Very useful. One suggestion I would have for your videos would be to add a SOOC colour test for skin tone in your camera reviews, if you have the possibility. There's a lot of difference in quality between different models when it comes to that aspect, especially for darker skin tones: some make ligther people look a bit green, some make darker people look very orange. For instance, the Lumix S5 II seems to perform really well on that front, but it'd be nice to see a systematic comparison with other cameras.
That would be good, but I don't have access to many models or volunteers
@@cameralabs That's ok, it was just a suggestion :) Keep on with the great work!
colors look fantastic. 🔥
Yes, I do like their processing...
As always, a fantastic review, Gordon! I totally agree with the comparisons you tested here in this video, but I think a strong battle would be the S-5iiX VS Fujifilm XH2s. Fuji has the LUMIX covered at every turn with the stacked sensor, no rolling shutter, no crop in higher video frame rates, 4K 60 and 120, CF Express card, Fuji colours, much faster shutter for outdoor wide open shooting, and the lists goes on. However, there is always that question mark of FF vs APSC with respect to depth of field, low light and noise. Through one of your reviews, I think it would be a great question to attempt to answer of giving up the much better camera (the Fuji), for that full frame advantage which is a real thing!
Anyway, just a suggestion. Thanks again for your hard work, Gordon. ✌️
That's a great idea for a comparison. The XH2S will be stronger on the feature set thanks to the smaller sensor, but the other benefits could outweigh it. I'm doing a video based review at the moment, concentrating on full frame rivals, but I'll mention the XH2S and maybe do a proper comparison later.
@@cameralabs Thanks for the reply! Glad you’re considering the suggestion. It’s an age old debate (FF vs APSC), but I think it’s only getting better with how good processors and sensors are getting these days! I’ll look out for the review. Thanks again. ✌️
The autofocus looked the best on the Lumix to me in the test at around the 24 minutes mark. While the Canon may be recognizing the subject and putting up the box on the head but its focus isn't sticking to you even when you aren't moving your distance from the camera. It's varying rapidly between between the subject and then some distance between the subject and the background (though never completely focusing on the background). Not only does the focus look bad there but it's causing a lot of lens focus breathing to show up. The Sony looks terrible in this test as well. I'm amazed Panasonic did such a good job on their first entry into a hybrid focus system and it's really making me look forward to the Mark II versions of the S1/S1R.
Thank you for detailed review!
I found some discussion on DPReview, where people arguing that RAW compression is in fact, lossy (don't remember if it was with S5 or S5 II). But there's no proper tests or whatnot, to prove or disprove that claim.
I'm trying to look into this further
Thanks for the review. Hope to see the phase detect in upcoming MFT bodies.
Me too, although obviously Olympus already has PDAF in MFT
@@cameralabs true, but the OM-1 is a great looking but pricey camera. The fact it does not come with a battery charger and that a spare batter is $99 usd is not selling me on that camera at the moment. Hoping for a value priced G9 replacement with some phase detect autofocus goodness. The OM-5 seems to be a bit of a joke so I worry if OM systems will be in MFT game for the long run. Now hoping for a price drop on the OM-1 or something cool from Panasonic in the MFT world. The reviews of this camera seem to be very positive so it looks like Panasonic is really focused on improving their game. This can only be good news for the consumer. I've been an olympus shooter for a long time, but Panasonic could sure tempt me if the price is competitive.
If they can make an MFT version of this camera I think it would sell a ton to those of use who already have MFT glass. The fact this is full frame and right around $2000 usd gives me a lot of hope for a cool and affordable MFT camera from Panasonic in the not too distant future. A stripped down MFT camera with phase detect and the GH6 sensor would be something I would really consider and please don't make us buy a battery charger separately like OM systems. Seems like panasonic has the stabilization nearly up to Olympus levels. Here's hoping this camera comes along soon. This S5 ii gives me a lot of hope of what we will see from Panasonic soon. Also, the recent addition if th 9mm f1.7 shows me Panasonic is still thinking about MFT.
Very comprehensive, thank you
You're welcome!
Great, comprehensive review - thanks!
Thanks, I'm working on my review of the video features as we speak!
@@cameralabs awesome that will be helpful as I'm about to buy it in the next day or two
@@ConciseTechTV it's taking me longer than I thought, so don't hold me to a publishing date! But bottom line is it's really good for video and I have no complaints.
@@cameralabs Haha no worries, I'll still be watching whenever it is ready!
I'm so happy about this! I personally won't upgrade as I don't do much video work where I need continuous auto focus - but it's really good news for the L mount in general if this picks up.. more lenses on the horizon?
Hopefully!
As always one of the best review on You Tube. Now that you are the only one focusing on the photography side of this camera we can conclude that the stills feature are very good and even indeed the best but very overlooked. Most users of Panasonic sits in the video market. Will you create a video only on video features of this camera as Auto Focus, IBIS, Full auto expose and auto focusing when vlogging outside?
Thanks! Yes I always plan to make TWO videos for every new camera, one concentrating on photography and another on video. I already have all my results, but every time I try to make the review, another product comes along and demands my attention! So I already have a backlog of cameras needing reviews of their movie modes including the Fujifilm X-T5 and Canon EOS R7. My next priority is a photo review of the Canon R6 II.
@@cameralabs I’m waiting for all those reviews.
Now bring the Panasonic s1H mark II with phase detect and you got a nearly flawless camera for video!
How do you switch from photo to video, are your last settings saved like Nikon do.
Great to see Panasonic and Fuji as genuine competition for Nikon and Canon.
Hi there, I’m considering going from the R6 to the S5IIX for hybrid shooting. However, the excellent AF & tracking on the Canon, especially on the PHOTO side has me hesitating. However I know LUMIX just release a firmware update with improvements to their AF. So I’m wondering if this will compare it to the Canon AF at all? Any suggestion on which way to go? Thanks!!
thanks for this great video
You're welcome, it's an absolute bargain in the UK this week too
Hallelujah! PDAF in a Panasonic. Next question-will there be an MFT camera with PDAF? How ironic that Panasonic introduced pre-burst shooting, but Canon is the FF option with pre-burst shooting now. Thank you for yet another brilliant review. 😀
Well of course there already are MFTs with PDAF - from Olympus - but i know what you mean and have asked the question! I think they'll judge it by demand on this one.
As an S5 owner, this really does give me a fair bit of hope in the future of the platform. Most of my issues with AF seem to be addressed to the point it's hard for me not to make the jump to the S5ii. Had uncropped 4k60p been included, it would have been a no brainer. With that said, I think I wait a bit to see if they make an S1ii.
I had the same hesitancy with the cropped 4k60 but with all the other advantages that it offers AND at that price, I think it's something I'm willing to concede! (edit: didn't notice you already have the S5, that makes sense why you'd what for the s1hii)
@@davisnareymedia Ah, I'm actually one of those weridos who primarily uses S5 as a photo camera, so will likely skip the S1h line and go for a mark 2 of the regular S1. Love the output SOOC and the overall handling of the Panasonic system. Really hoping they come out with a full featured S1m2, but wouldn't be surprised if they skip it and only focus on the S1R and S1H lines.
great video
I'm very happy with this release and looking forward to more improvement on the AF in future firmware updates. But for a first try, I think they have done much better than Nikon and Canon's first gen mirrorless bodies. Photographers are really spoiled for choice nowadays!
Yes, it's a great first implementation
Great review Gordon. I like that you focus on the practical aspects. And you still own a Powerbook! My first portable Mac was a Powerbook 140. Pretty useless, even in the 90's but cool.
Thanks! My PowerBook is a recent eBay purchase as I needed a 90's era Mac to talk to a QuickTake camera I'm re-reviewing for my vintage channel Dino Bytes (have you seen it?!) - I did however review these laptops in the 90's when I worked for PCW magazine! I loved their design. SOOO heavy today though!
@@cameralabs I saw the QuickTake review. Amazing what passed for acceptable back then 🙂
@@heiner71 must have been someone else's! I've not made my full retro review of it yet - I did make a short though as a teaser.
@@cameralabs Must have been. I looked at your older Dinobytes videos and indeed, there was no such video or even something similar. I make sure to watch it when it comes out, I promise 🙂
@@heiner71 I'll hold you to that!
Hey there... GREAT VIDEO!!! I am a hybrid wedding shooter and I can't find this specific answer anywhere and hoping someone here can help. What happens when you are in photo mode but hit the RED record button? Will it record using the CURRENT settings in Photo Mode or will it switch to the last VIDEO settings from Video Mode? I hope it pulls from the video settings and even uses the Log format and LUT preview too, despite being in Photo mode and then jump back to the Photo settings when I end the video clip. Thanks for any help on this.
22:50 really nice garden!