Panasonic Lumix S5 II for PHOTOGRAPHY review: BEST value full-frame vs R6 II A7 IV?

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  • Опубликовано: 23 дек 2024

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  • @cameralabs
    @cameralabs  Год назад +32

    My Panasonic Lumix S5 II review! In-depth look at the photo and focusing vs R6 II and A7 IV
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    00:00 - Introduction
    00:33 - Lumix S5 II Phase Detect autofocus at last!
    03:19 - Lumix S5 II body design and controls
    06:39 - Lumix S5 II viewfinder and screen
    07:49 - Lumix S5 II card slots, ports and battery life
    09:31 - Lumix S5 II L-mount and lenses
    10:31 - Lumix S5 II sensor and photo options
    12:49 - Lumix S5 II photo quality vs High Resolution mode
    14:27 - Lumix S5 II resolution vs EOS R6 II and Sony A7 IV
    15:57 - Lumix S5 II noise high ISO vs EOS R6 II and Sony A7 IV
    17:30 - Lumix S5 II RAW dynamic range
    17:59 - Lumix S5 II IBIS stabilization
    19:10 - Lumix S5 II autofocus AF
    19:59 - Lumix S5 II subject detection
    21:54 - Lumix S5 II face, eye and human detection autofocus
    23:53 - Lumix S5 II vs EOS R6 II vs Sony A7 IV face and eye tracking
    24:55 - Lumix S5 II burst shooting speed
    27:21 - Lumix S5 II action photography bikes
    28:31 - Lumix S5 II birds in flight wildlife photography
    29:30 - Lumix S5 II rolling shutter electronic skewing
    30:40 - Lumix S5 II photo modes
    31:20 - Lumix S5 II bracketing
    31:38 - Lumix S5 II focus bracketing
    33:19 - Lumix S5 II verdict and sample images
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    • @fellowcitizen
      @fellowcitizen Год назад

      Thrilled to finally order one of these! Came with a free 14-28! I was aiming for the X, but the best deal was for the core version.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      @@fellowcitizen did you order just now? There's a really good deal in the UK at the moment.,..

    • @fellowcitizen
      @fellowcitizen Год назад

      Yes!💖 In Australia the 20-60mm kits for the S5II & S5IIx are very nicely discounted, and come with a bonus 14-28mmF4-5.6💎 @@cameralabs Time to re-watch your videos!

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      @@fellowcitizen I promise to make my S5 II movie mode review soon!

    • @fellowcitizen
      @fellowcitizen Год назад

      Marvellous! @@cameralabs

  • @LensForgotten
    @LensForgotten Год назад +41

    This is the GOLD STANDARD of reviews! Thank you for focusing on the photo side as well!

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +3

      Thankyou, and you are very welcome!

  • @KaiManWong
    @KaiManWong Год назад +99

    Right, now it's time to watch the OG Camera RUclipsr's vid! And I'm coming to Brighton for those Easter Eggs BTW. 👍

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +11

      It'll help you get to sleep if nothing else. My video that is, not the eggs. They're delicious!

    • @mostlymessingabout
      @mostlymessingabout Год назад +1

      Who is that?

    • @JohnDrummondPhoto
      @JohnDrummondPhoto Год назад +5

      @@mostlymessingabout you don't know Kai Wong? You must be new here. Check out his channel, and his mate, @Lok Cheung.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +9

      @@mostlymessingabout yep, Kai's a legend around these parts, started on Digital REV in Hong Kong before going solo back here in the UK. He's a good fella. Slightly different style to me!

    • @Localtraveler2376
      @Localtraveler2376 Год назад +5

      This is amazing. My two favorite reviewers. I just said so in a comment in a smaller RUclips channel that these are the 2 best and most honest in the business and Kai shows up on Gordon’s channel.

  • @Aviciiz
    @Aviciiz Год назад +72

    The amount of information and testing you've done and put in this video is incredible.

  • @RobDTom
    @RobDTom Год назад +70

    Super happy to see Panasonic is serious about improving their cameras. They have no intention of exiting this market, and their success is good for all of us.

    • @cameronkrause4712
      @cameronkrause4712 Год назад +9

      Panasonic might even grab a bigger share of the market.

    • @technodronesogxl9783
      @technodronesogxl9783 Год назад +3

      @B Basleigh Compared to which camera of Fuji. It lands in the middle of the XH2S and XH2. The XH2S seems to be a better video camera with no rolling shutter. The XH2 has higher megapixels and a higher pixel shift that's less video-centric. Then changing systems and investing in new lenses won't be affordable. Only new enthusiasts or someone not vested in the Fujiverse would benefit from a switch to Panasonic. Both Fuji X models seem to have better autofocus. Excellent fair balanced presentation Gordon.

    • @Pikk
      @Pikk Год назад +2

      @@technodronesogxl9783it’s full frame camera 😂

    • @AmbientWanderer
      @AmbientWanderer Год назад

      all they need now is to release an APC camera.

    • @file1man
      @file1man 4 месяца назад +1

      We actually returned a panasonic hc-x20 video camera. Its auto focus was terrible, not really useable for serious video. The camera was large, which we knew going in. We are experienced videographers. My 3 years older sony video camera was way, way better in every way panasonic was absolutely disappointing. Gary

  • @nickcarneyphotography
    @nickcarneyphotography Год назад +19

    Great review as always. One thing to note for the Panasonic, while it's true that Sony and Panasonic both have access to Sigma lenses, L-Mount Sigmas are considered native lenses, not third party, so they have better performance on Panasonic bodies than they would on Sony, and have access to the full burst rates of cameras as well as teleconverters.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      Hmmm, interesting point, I've not looked into the differences between L and e-mount versions of DG DN lenses.

    • @nickcarneyphotography
      @nickcarneyphotography Год назад +6

      @@cameralabs There could be more nuance to what I am saying, but from my understanding Sony limits what third party manufacturers can do with their mount, such as not allowing teleconverters and capping burst rates. I don't think L-Mount has these same limitations.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +8

      @@nickcarneyphotography I'll look into it further...

  • @joeallam
    @joeallam Год назад +5

    AF finally looking great on Lumix! I feel like this is gonna be a reeeeaaaallly exciting year in the camera world!

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +3

      This was the secret camera I was testing!

    • @joeallam
      @joeallam Год назад

      @@cameralabs so I gather! I was thinking it was either Sony or Panasonic for why so many people were about in Japan, ha!

  • @karikaru
    @karikaru Год назад +8

    I got my preorder in - so excited! Everything I could have wanted and more - thanks for the excellent coverage as always Gordon

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +4

      You're welcome, it was a LOT of work!

  • @Quietcloud
    @Quietcloud Год назад +18

    Thank you for another thoughtful and complete (and trustworthy) review! I am particularly happy that you cover the focus bracketing abilities of cameras as no one else does. The fact that this camera will allow focus bracketing with flash is huge for me and I don't think I would have known about it in any other way. Kudos!

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +2

      You're welcome, it's a nice feature!

  • @FabienMathey
    @FabienMathey Год назад +14

    I am now adding Panasonic on my list. I love the Sigma lenses but require good video AF. So now, Panasonic seems good enough and that is great! Thanks for another great video Gordon!

  • @DarrylUK
    @DarrylUK Год назад +23

    Fantastic review. The most comprehensive I’ve watched and definitely not too long!
    The S5ii looks great, I’m really impressed by it. Amazing how a change like PDAF makes such a difference to the overall package. A lot of the pros existed for a while, such as IBIS performance, lens selection (vs Canon), video performance, colour/image quality. PDAF just makes it a much more viable package, well done Panasonic.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +2

      It's a really solid proposition - thanks for watching!

  • @assouclcf
    @assouclcf Год назад +13

    Thank you for the review. The autofocus of Panasonic cameras was the biggest problem to solve. So it’s very good news ! Just pitty than they offered this new technology on a full frame model and not on the gh6. The expectation and hope was more important on M43 sensor. But it’s very personal :)

    • @AkilanKamarajan
      @AkilanKamarajan Год назад +5

      I hope Panasonic does a G9 mark II with a stacked sensor like OM-1 and include phase detect autofocus. Currently very happy with G9 apart from the video auto focus.

  • @christophersanders6444
    @christophersanders6444 4 месяца назад +1

    This video was outstanding and became the verdict on me choosing the S5II after months of research. Thank you and I love your videos!

  • @MicroFourNerds
    @MicroFourNerds Год назад +6

    aaah Gordon what a brilliant, thorough review! I've learned so much watching this! It was a pleasure to meet you in Tokyo! - Emily 📸

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      Thanks! Bonus points if you made it to the end! Great to meet you too!

  • @stevechmilar1215
    @stevechmilar1215 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for this video. Your comparison at 15:36 with the charts made my day. I am a visual artist who archives my oil paintings for print as well as shooting static diomaras and maquettes on a tripod. The high resolution mode of the S5ii seems like it was made for people like me, as well as video, live-streaming etc. I'm going to purchase the S5iiX asap.

  • @GodIsOneNotThree
    @GodIsOneNotThree Год назад +14

    I will say that the Panasonic DFD is very solid for contrast detect AF and if they added phase detect or hybrid AF it should be one of the best out there. I am hoping for a G9 II or somethings with the updated hybrid AF and maybe improvement on the ISO. Nice videos as always. You are my #1 source to decide buying equipment.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      Thankyou!

    • @bingbong4848
      @bingbong4848 Год назад +1

      Happy with the G9ii? 😊

    • @tomgwl65
      @tomgwl65 Год назад

      I'm having a hard time choosing between the g9II and this one; witch is better for low light when Im out hiking, and for astro/starry skies / aurora? I feel my g90 is not up for it🧐

  • @martingreenberg870
    @martingreenberg870 Год назад +4

    Happy New Year and thank you for your usual thorough review of the Panasonic S5ii.
    This looks like a smashing hybrid body. We all knew Panasonic would eventually use phase detection so I’m glad they got around to it. I am not in the market for a full frame body. I use M43 bodies so maybe phase detection will be added to the G9ii or G10 when that comes out.
    Hard to believe this body presents at $2000 when the Fuji XT5 is a little cheaper and the XH 2 & S are a little more expensive. This body will give them a run for the money.
    Again, thank you for your review. I now know what I’m missing by staying with my Fiji XT4 & XS10. Hope this will be the best year yet.
    Mask On Nurse Marty

  • @PlanetFrosty
    @PlanetFrosty Год назад +1

    Gordon, You are the best in accurate review of cameras without the nonsense.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      Thanks, I appreciate your comment.

  • @JoshCameron
    @JoshCameron Год назад +1

    The most comprehensive video I’ve seen so far👏🏻
    Great video, Gordon! Looking forward to the Video-Centric review 🎉

  • @lubostoev9924
    @lubostoev9924 Год назад +1

    Ive watched like 15 videos prior to this and I thought I can't learn anything new about the S5 ii but you proved me wrong! I can say you've managed to make the most detailed review out of all the videos Ive watched

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      Thankyou, that's my aim! Hope you enjoy my other reviews...

    • @lubostoev9924
      @lubostoev9924 Год назад

      @@cameralabs I'm debating between Sony A7iii and the Lumix S5 ii. I know the S5 ii is the better camera by far but the auto focus still worries me a little since I plan on using it a lot for work and personal projects. Would you say it's on the level on the Sony when set on the higher speeds of AF and the proper AF settings ?

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      @@lubostoev9924 yep, definitely on par with A7 III.

    • @lubostoev9924
      @lubostoev9924 Год назад

      @@cameralabs okay thanks a lot

  • @borderlands6606
    @borderlands6606 Год назад +5

    I use hi-res regularly for interiors, it's excellent. If there's plenty of light high resolution handles exterior movement reasonably well too, as multi-exposure happens in a much briefer time, with clouds for example. As a non-vlogger upgrades from my S5 aren't essential, but the Mk II looks a nice cameras.

  • @abdelraoufmustafa4169
    @abdelraoufmustafa4169 19 дней назад

    probably the best review i've ever seen it was everything i wanted, i was torn between the s5ii even after finding a great price for it but this video made me feel so much at ease, thank you so much

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  19 дней назад

      You're welcome, it's a great camera for the money and I still use it to film almost all my videos

  • @AndySnap
    @AndySnap Год назад +4

    Hurrah for your stills photography focussed (no pun intended) reviews. I sometimes feel I'm the only one who reckons there are more photographers than videographers, no matter what most RUclips channels think...

  • @joeylazio5989
    @joeylazio5989 2 месяца назад

    Just ordered mine today. Upgrade from my first camera, a G95. Can’t wait! Really doing photos only.

  • @chrisberardi2304
    @chrisberardi2304 Год назад

    I'm looking forward to having your book - just ordered it today. I'm sure I'll learn something more from you. All the best from Texas.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      Thanks, I hope you enjoy it!

  • @cellphonehistorian1491
    @cellphonehistorian1491 10 месяцев назад

    Gordon, I want to thank you for creating this video, your content is unique and your opinion is very valuable to me.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks, i appreciate your kind words!

  • @carolfranklyn-wi8lp
    @carolfranklyn-wi8lp 2 месяца назад

    I have just got the S5ii having struggled with the focusing on the original S5. What a game changer. Thank you Panasonic and thank you Gordon for a superb in-depth review

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  2 месяца назад

      You're very welcome!

  • @1doublem
    @1doublem Год назад

    Thanks for a great review Gordon. It helped me finalize my decision to buy the Lumiz S5ll. Waiting for the pkg to arrive! Happy Holidays!

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      Hope you enjoy it! Check out the multitude of Sigma L mount lenses for it!

  • @matthewiles4789
    @matthewiles4789 Год назад

    Excellent. Answered all my questions. I'm intrigued enough to consider purchasing. Thanks Gordon!

  • @mrpoobumhead857
    @mrpoobumhead857 3 месяца назад

    Another great review! IMO the best place to come for straight forward honest reviews which absolutely helps “normal” enthusiasts like me to think about their purchase decisions based on their own needs and requirements 👍💪👌

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  3 месяца назад +1

      Thabks, I always try to be calm and unbiased!

  • @jaegerschtulmann
    @jaegerschtulmann Год назад +3

    Now bring the Panasonic s1H mark II with phase detect and you got a nearly flawless camera for video!

  • @evanmcknight2566
    @evanmcknight2566 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the review. Hope to see the phase detect in upcoming MFT bodies.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      Me too, although obviously Olympus already has PDAF in MFT

    • @evanmcknight2566
      @evanmcknight2566 Год назад +1

      @@cameralabs true, but the OM-1 is a great looking but pricey camera. The fact it does not come with a battery charger and that a spare batter is $99 usd is not selling me on that camera at the moment. Hoping for a value priced G9 replacement with some phase detect autofocus goodness. The OM-5 seems to be a bit of a joke so I worry if OM systems will be in MFT game for the long run. Now hoping for a price drop on the OM-1 or something cool from Panasonic in the MFT world. The reviews of this camera seem to be very positive so it looks like Panasonic is really focused on improving their game. This can only be good news for the consumer. I've been an olympus shooter for a long time, but Panasonic could sure tempt me if the price is competitive.

    • @evanmcknight2566
      @evanmcknight2566 Год назад +1

      If they can make an MFT version of this camera I think it would sell a ton to those of use who already have MFT glass. The fact this is full frame and right around $2000 usd gives me a lot of hope for a cool and affordable MFT camera from Panasonic in the not too distant future. A stripped down MFT camera with phase detect and the GH6 sensor would be something I would really consider and please don't make us buy a battery charger separately like OM systems. Seems like panasonic has the stabilization nearly up to Olympus levels. Here's hoping this camera comes along soon. This S5 ii gives me a lot of hope of what we will see from Panasonic soon. Also, the recent addition if th 9mm f1.7 shows me Panasonic is still thinking about MFT.

  • @cameronkrause4712
    @cameronkrause4712 Год назад +3

    very thorough examination! I am a micro 4/3s guy, but I find this interesting because I like to know what the manufacturer of my camera system is doing in the bigger picture. It looks to me that Panasonic is taking things very seriously. This might not transfer well for micro4/3s, but Panasonic is well into the game of making cameras for the future.

    • @barrylyon6074
      @barrylyon6074 Год назад +1

      Have heard its going into all their hybrid cameras

  • @FRST2012
    @FRST2012 Год назад +3

    Gordon, great review and superb amount of information. This looks like a very nice upgrade. I did wonder whether Panasonic would ever move to phase detect. In previous years I would have been frustrated by this upgrade as a S5 owner, but my S5 is more than I need for photos along with the 20-60 + 70-300. If they did finally decide to make a G9 mkii with phase detection, this would be awesome for motorsport with the 2:1 focal length, and a tempting buy as a 2nd camera.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      Thanks, yes, I hope it comes to MFT as well.

  • @Mel-95
    @Mel-95 Год назад

    Gordon, you are the BEST camera reviewer - by far - on RUclips. Another thorough, amazing job. Also appreciate the comparison with likely rivals from Canon and Sony. Thank you.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      Thanks, you're very welcome!

  • @RyanH0809
    @RyanH0809 6 месяцев назад

    Gordon, I absolutely love your approach to camera and lens reviews. I'd love to see you do a follow up video on the S5ii for it's latest firmware update, since it seems some of these things have changed or improved a significant margin. Regardless, love the content.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks! I actually got about halfway through a review of the video features but got distracted! I'll hopefully pick it back up again and include some new fw tests, like the improved video stabilisation

  • @lsamoa
    @lsamoa Год назад +1

    Thank you for another thorough review! Very useful. One suggestion I would have for your videos would be to add a SOOC colour test for skin tone in your camera reviews, if you have the possibility. There's a lot of difference in quality between different models when it comes to that aspect, especially for darker skin tones: some make ligther people look a bit green, some make darker people look very orange. For instance, the Lumix S5 II seems to perform really well on that front, but it'd be nice to see a systematic comparison with other cameras.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      That would be good, but I don't have access to many models or volunteers

    • @lsamoa
      @lsamoa Год назад

      @@cameralabs That's ok, it was just a suggestion :) Keep on with the great work!

  • @tanelaavistu
    @tanelaavistu Год назад +1

    Thanks for doing a photography-oriented review. Great stuff!

  • @MrNecropodo
    @MrNecropodo Год назад

    Mr Laing, if youtube does not pay you enought, and social media is not recognizing your work, i just want to remind you that youre one of the greatest camera reviewers of all this platform, thanks for your hard work, please continue giving great images of the cameras, and your sincere opinion, just dont forget to use some os the "british humor" that we all enjoy. sorry if im not writing correctly, this is not my native lenguage. Panasonic was the first brand i put my eyes on, and still like it a lot. i tell my friends if you want to record video use a lumix camera. My best regards from CR.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      Thankyou for your kind words (and excellent English!)

  • @patrickbenthamradley5429
    @patrickbenthamradley5429 Год назад

    Yet another exhaustive and fine review Gordon! Thank you so much! And snow in Brighton !!?? Regards form snowy Sweden !

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      It did get a little frosty here!

  • @scottfineshriber5051
    @scottfineshriber5051 Год назад +2

    Hallelujah! PDAF in a Panasonic. Next question-will there be an MFT camera with PDAF? How ironic that Panasonic introduced pre-burst shooting, but Canon is the FF option with pre-burst shooting now. Thank you for yet another brilliant review. 😀

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      Well of course there already are MFTs with PDAF - from Olympus - but i know what you mean and have asked the question! I think they'll judge it by demand on this one.

  • @bartoszpajak2285
    @bartoszpajak2285 Год назад +2

    Great review! I’m considering selling my Fuji equipment and switching to full frame based on the S5 II. I don’t feel the need for crazy resolutions and the system seems to be all I need.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      Why sell a perfectly good system? What doesn't it do that you need to switch?

    • @bartoszpajak2285
      @bartoszpajak2285 Год назад +1

      @@cameralabs Because Fuji reached the limit of what is doable in the aps-c world with the latest sensor. I didn’t have the chance to test it, but I did the maths. In fact, any aperture smaller than f/9 will eat up that great resolution due to diffraction on that high-density sensor. The laws of physics are unavoidable. Not so great for landscape photography, which should take advantage of the more detailed images. Another point is low light performance. Taking decent photos at ISO 6400 or even 12800 is huge - the Fuji system starts to fall apart at this stage. I live up north and have to deal with low light for at least six months a year. I sticked with my X-T3 since I’m not into video and the X-T4 didn’t provide any real advantage to me. I considered to purchase the new X-T5, but, as mentioned above, I think it’s already too much, or at least on the edge of what makes sense and further development of the system will be very difficult, whereas in full frame there’s still a lot of space for improvement.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      @@bartoszpajak2285 I read comments by many people who just want to swap brands or change for the hell of it, but your comment shows you have thought it through and considered what will be best for you. Good luck with it!

  • @jeffreywrightphotography
    @jeffreywrightphotography Год назад +2

    The autofocus looked the best on the Lumix to me in the test at around the 24 minutes mark. While the Canon may be recognizing the subject and putting up the box on the head but its focus isn't sticking to you even when you aren't moving your distance from the camera. It's varying rapidly between between the subject and then some distance between the subject and the background (though never completely focusing on the background). Not only does the focus look bad there but it's causing a lot of lens focus breathing to show up. The Sony looks terrible in this test as well. I'm amazed Panasonic did such a good job on their first entry into a hybrid focus system and it's really making me look forward to the Mark II versions of the S1/S1R.

  • @LuckyInLondon
    @LuckyInLondon Год назад

    I so have to retire my D810 and get this Lumix beauty. Brilliant review Gordon! Glad I came upon your channel!

  • @thornscoop2
    @thornscoop2 Год назад

    The best real world review i have seen on this camera! Thanks for your massive effort on this. Now subscribed!

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      Thanks, it was a lot of work!

  • @highlyunprofessionalreviews
    @highlyunprofessionalreviews Год назад

    As always, one of the very best reviews on the internet.

  • @SakaphotoGraphics
    @SakaphotoGraphics 2 месяца назад

    Interesting to watch considering that I've just received my S5 Mk II two lens kit. Having gone through Four-Thirds, micro Four-Thirds, and Nikon DX, I've been attempting to learn what's available. Thanks for doing so much and showing me that I made a good choice.

  • @FrankJoseph911
    @FrankJoseph911 Год назад

    Thank you, G L. I hope you have more on this s5ii in the near future. I'd like to follow you as I will get this tonight.

  • @andrewbalcombe1338
    @andrewbalcombe1338 Год назад

    Thanks Gordon, I dropped off for a few minutes but that was due to jet lag. Woke up and made it to the end.because it was so interesting. Happy 2023!

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      Hmmmmm, I may need you to go back and watch the bits you missed. It may have been more than you think! But good effort none the less!

    • @andrewbalcombe1338
      @andrewbalcombe1338 Год назад

      @@cameralabs Thanks Gordon! will do 🙂

  • @chrisbrown6432
    @chrisbrown6432 Год назад +1

    Thank you Gordon. A very thorough review that is bound to be the best review of this camera.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      Thanks Chris, that's very kind!

  • @bingbong4848
    @bingbong4848 Год назад

    Bonus points for me! Great review by the Master of great reviews 👏 Can't wait for these changes to filter down to the G line.

  • @Julianpms
    @Julianpms Год назад +1

    Another fantastic review, thank you! I'm a stills photographer and really appreciate the depth of information you provide. I picked up an S1R at a ridiculously low price last summer, but this could really tempt me as a second body, maybe with Sigma's 28-70 mm f2.8 lens.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      Thanks, and the S5 II + 28-70 2.8 is a great combo! I have it ion front of me!

  • @BimoPradana
    @BimoPradana 5 месяцев назад

    I'm an S5II user and I just bought the Sigma 50 1.4 DG DN. I've recently discovered a "bug" or lack of transparency with the S5II. The phase AF-C is not active in all shooting quality modes.
    In the .MP4 mode, most quality settings can apply phase detection. However, in .MOV mode, not all settings support it, especially in high frame rate (such as 120 fps). And some 4K modes, it seems somewhat random which modes implement phase detection. This is a bit disappointing, and I only discovered it when using f1.4. When using the 24-70 2.8 (my old lens), this issue was not as noticeable.

  • @LuckyInLondon
    @LuckyInLondon Год назад +1

    Hi Gordon! Were your sample images straight out of this camera? I downloaded the one taken at ISO 800 and I cannot see any noise. My D810 will show a lot of noise even at ISO 400. Wow?

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      All my sample images are always SOOC JPEGs. Sensors have moved on a lot since the D810!

  • @JohnnyPippinger
    @JohnnyPippinger Год назад

    Great comparasion and review. I'd be happy to see some portrait comparasion between these 3, also some grading test to see the color science

  • @paulmoore721
    @paulmoore721 Месяц назад

    If the high resolution mode is as good as you or others have stated, I would consider purchasing for this feature alone

  • @TheRealRichardWong
    @TheRealRichardWong Год назад

    Great detailed review as usual Gordon! It was great meeting you in Japan

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      Thanks Richard, great meeting you too! So nice to reconnect with people from NZ!

  • @AmadoWildlifeVideos
    @AmadoWildlifeVideos Год назад

    Excellent review as usual Gordon. Looking forward to the video capabilities review, might bring me back to Panny since jumping ship two years ago. My invite to Japan must've got lost in the post...

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      Glad you liked it Alan, and thanks for the coffee donation too, much appreciated!

  • @PavSZ
    @PavSZ Год назад

    Love it!
    Great watch, didn't feel a minute longer than 10min.
    Very informative and thorough. I've learnt more about the S5II than I ever would from the manual and I've enjoyed it, unlike any manual. Great sample photos at the end.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      Thanks Pav, glad you liked it! It was rather long, so thanks for watching! It was nice to go through those photos from Fuji-San, although so many of mine were similar to each other, I didn't include too many at the end. Nice to have some nature in there though, right?! Hope you liked my Kyoto shots too! (I noticed your Fuji shots in your video!)

  • @mrmatt24
    @mrmatt24 Год назад

    Thank you. This is the best comparison of the pixel shift mode I've found. It really seems to be a large improvement under the right circumstances.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      Yep, if the subject isn't moving, it can do a great job.

  • @danfarmer_photo
    @danfarmer_photo Год назад

    As always, a fantastic review, Gordon! I totally agree with the comparisons you tested here in this video, but I think a strong battle would be the S-5iiX VS Fujifilm XH2s. Fuji has the LUMIX covered at every turn with the stacked sensor, no rolling shutter, no crop in higher video frame rates, 4K 60 and 120, CF Express card, Fuji colours, much faster shutter for outdoor wide open shooting, and the lists goes on. However, there is always that question mark of FF vs APSC with respect to depth of field, low light and noise. Through one of your reviews, I think it would be a great question to attempt to answer of giving up the much better camera (the Fuji), for that full frame advantage which is a real thing!
    Anyway, just a suggestion. Thanks again for your hard work, Gordon. ✌️

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      That's a great idea for a comparison. The XH2S will be stronger on the feature set thanks to the smaller sensor, but the other benefits could outweigh it. I'm doing a video based review at the moment, concentrating on full frame rivals, but I'll mention the XH2S and maybe do a proper comparison later.

    • @danfarmer_photo
      @danfarmer_photo Год назад

      @@cameralabs Thanks for the reply! Glad you’re considering the suggestion. It’s an age old debate (FF vs APSC), but I think it’s only getting better with how good processors and sensors are getting these days! I’ll look out for the review. Thanks again. ✌️

  • @CHT_ChavdarTashev
    @CHT_ChavdarTashev Год назад

    Hello I have Lumix S5 mark II and i can't open RAW files in Lightroom, previous I have S5 and there is no problem with them...

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      You have a brand new camera that's not supported yet! Give it time, Adobe support will come soon

  • @quite1enough
    @quite1enough Год назад

    Thank you for detailed review!
    I found some discussion on DPReview, where people arguing that RAW compression is in fact, lossy (don't remember if it was with S5 or S5 II). But there's no proper tests or whatnot, to prove or disprove that claim.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      I'm trying to look into this further

  • @DA-yd2ny
    @DA-yd2ny Год назад

    Great objective and comprehensive review as usual. Thank you heaps, Gordon.
    Great news for Panasonic and their customers 👍

  • @Windsurfingaddict
    @Windsurfingaddict 3 месяца назад

    Fantastic honest review, no nonsense and straight to the point 🥳🥳🥳🥳

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  3 месяца назад

      You're very welcome! Ps I've made a short comparison of video quality in a recent video

  • @MrJapanforce
    @MrJapanforce Год назад

    Perfect. Proud Lumix user for years. Never looked back!

  • @HiethGeorge
    @HiethGeorge Год назад

    I stayed to the end as always but still wondering if you had to choose only one of these 3 which would it be ?

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      I'd base it on lenses. Who has the models you want and can afford or borrow.

    • @HiethGeorge
      @HiethGeorge Год назад

      @@cameralabs Thanks Gordon I think I should stick with my R3 and R6 MKII I have a decent set of RF Glass already so no need to swap out it is just that there is something about Panasonic colours that tempts me cheers Hieth

  • @VynZography
    @VynZography Год назад

    Holy Bejus thanks so much for making a photography review! Everyone else seems to think this is a camcorder! Did you try the LUT feature in this camera? I am rally interested in this for photography so I can get presentable jpgs straight out of the camera, no editing required.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      Thanks! I haven't tried the realtime LUT for photography yet but I think microfournerds or pavsv have

    • @VynZography
      @VynZography Год назад

      @@cameralabs ah yes microfournerds talked about it in detail. Brilliant review as well. Thanks!

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      @@VynZography it's a really good channel - tell 'em I sent you there!

  • @exclusivelymatt
    @exclusivelymatt Год назад +1

    As an S5 owner, this really does give me a fair bit of hope in the future of the platform. Most of my issues with AF seem to be addressed to the point it's hard for me not to make the jump to the S5ii. Had uncropped 4k60p been included, it would have been a no brainer. With that said, I think I wait a bit to see if they make an S1ii.

    • @davisnareymedia
      @davisnareymedia Год назад +1

      I had the same hesitancy with the cropped 4k60 but with all the other advantages that it offers AND at that price, I think it's something I'm willing to concede! (edit: didn't notice you already have the S5, that makes sense why you'd what for the s1hii)

    • @exclusivelymatt
      @exclusivelymatt Год назад

      @@davisnareymedia Ah, I'm actually one of those weridos who primarily uses S5 as a photo camera, so will likely skip the S1h line and go for a mark 2 of the regular S1. Love the output SOOC and the overall handling of the Panasonic system. Really hoping they come out with a full featured S1m2, but wouldn't be surprised if they skip it and only focus on the S1R and S1H lines.

  • @agileleadership
    @agileleadership Год назад +1

    Hi Gordon. Thank you for this review. What are your thoughts between Lumix S5ii compared to XH2s both for photography and videography?

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      I'd base a lot of it on which system speaks to you more. The overall system including lens selection and pricing. Both are great options.

  • @kyounokuma
    @kyounokuma Год назад +1

    Another brilliant review! Thank you.

  • @007silverwings
    @007silverwings Год назад +3

    Thanks for the early review! It looks like a really good camera and a nice upgrade.
    It seems like the new AF works well, and let's remember that Panasonic are very good at firmware updates. I'm sure they will tweak the focus performance 👍🏻

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      Yes, I hope so... they're also open to feedback.

  • @SLLYT
    @SLLYT Год назад

    Thank you for a superb, thorough review. What firmware version did your Panasonic Lumix S5 II have? What do you think of the ease of use of the menus of the S5 II, R6 II, and A7 IV?

  • @jakubfurda
    @jakubfurda 10 месяцев назад

    Hi Gordon! Thank you very much for your review. I have been a Fuji shooter for a couple of years for commercial work. Currently, I use the X-T5 for photos and the X-H2s for videos. I am considering replacing my X-T5 with a full-frame camera. I am not satisfied with the low-light quality when shooting events without flash; my maximum satisfactory ISO performance is 3200. Do you think that the S5iiX will be an upgrade? I want to keep the X-H2s because I have plenty of lenses, but I am really eager to try a full-frame camera. Another concern is that Fuji lenses are not optimized for video, with issues like focus-by-wire and focus breathing. On Lumix cameras, I really like the ability to use custom LUTs, which is opposite to the experience with the Sony 7 IV - another camera I am considering. I recently photographed an event with my friend who had an A7 III with the cheapest 50mm lens, and I was surprised by the quality compared to my X-T5. Thank you

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  9 месяцев назад

      A full frame with the same res and lens aperture will only give you a stop or two over APSC. Depends how much you want that.

  • @Dan_Mirai
    @Dan_Mirai Год назад +1

    I just came back with from Japan with my S5 in tote with the f/4 16-35mm lens. I really like the colors I get from the Panasonic. However, the DFD only focus made it difficult to film myself. Also, with the 16-35mm f/4 it made it tricky to take some shots in low light.
    After I came back I picked up a Sony A7 IV. The reason being 1 the auto focus is much better and there are a lot more lens available in E-mount.
    Had I known this was coming out and if there was a 16-35mm f/2.4 lens coming out in L mount, I probably would have stayed with Panasonic. I prefer the handling a little more on the S5 body and I like the colors out natively better on the S5 over the A7 IV. The S5II auto focus looks improved enough that I would have considered it.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      I'm interested to hear about the choice of lenses. It's true Sony has a LOT of choice, especially with third parties including Tamron. Do you feel Sigma and Panasonic's own ranges have significant gaps for you personally? I know I can reel off some models they don't have, but how many would you actually want? I'm just wondering how complete L mount is for lenses for other people. Sigma is releasing a lot and is not slowing down!

    • @Dan_Mirai
      @Dan_Mirai Год назад

      @@cameralabs the biggest hole for me is the lack of a 16-35mm f/2.4. I do like doing street photography and architecture, so having a fast lens is important to me. The Sigma 12-24mm f/2.4 is just a little to short for me.
      After I came back from Japan I wished that I had a longer lens like a 24-70mm. Also I wish I had better video auto focus, the S5 fluttered too much for my liking. I am going to keep my s5 for when I want to try some astro photography and for landscapes.

  • @wavyjuicehq
    @wavyjuicehq 6 месяцев назад

    very good and in-depth review. top job mate

  • @JaimeDelRio
    @JaimeDelRio Год назад

    Hey there... GREAT VIDEO!!! I am a hybrid wedding shooter and I can't find this specific answer anywhere and hoping someone here can help. What happens when you are in photo mode but hit the RED record button? Will it record using the CURRENT settings in Photo Mode or will it switch to the last VIDEO settings from Video Mode? I hope it pulls from the video settings and even uses the Log format and LUT preview too, despite being in Photo mode and then jump back to the Photo settings when I end the video clip. Thanks for any help on this.

  • @tommym6248
    @tommym6248 Год назад

    For doing probably 90% stills photography, would you recommend the S5ii or the S1? The G9 is my current camera for stills and I like the fact that the S1 is basically a full frame G9. Although for a bit more, I could get the even higher resolution S1R.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +2

      I would expect an updated s1r in the next year, so look for good prices. But if 24mp is enough, tge s5ii is tremendous value, and if you don't need pdaf, look for deals on original s5 which has similar af to your g9

  • @javiercaselli
    @javiercaselli Год назад +1

    Wow, it seems the mirrorless world has reached cruise speed. So many impressive new kits from practically all brands!

  • @kaminobatto
    @kaminobatto Год назад +4

    I'm very happy with this release and looking forward to more improvement on the AF in future firmware updates. But for a first try, I think they have done much better than Nikon and Canon's first gen mirrorless bodies. Photographers are really spoiled for choice nowadays!

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +2

      Yes, it's a great first implementation

  • @AdamMuise
    @AdamMuise Год назад

    Thanks for the great review Gordon. Did you say the double exposure feature is gone? I loved using that on the S5. Also, is the Live Composite mode still there?

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      Sadly NEITHER is there on the current release firmware BUT I'm hoping they'll be reinstated in an update - I've requested it.

  • @kostasssss
    @kostasssss Год назад

    Excellent review! Did you notice moire patterns on the s5ii due to the lack of AA filter to the sensor?And if so is it going to be a problem on professional work?

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      I didn't notice moire issues, but I do show res charts in this video which would trigger it

  • @philiplewis9825
    @philiplewis9825 Год назад

    Yet another great video Gordon just two questions can it photos stack and has it got Wi-Fi phone connection.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      Yes it has Wifi to your phone. Yes it can focus bracket, but no it won't stack them. Yes it has pixel shift and yes it can stack them. I mention this in the video.

  • @walterhergt2361
    @walterhergt2361 Год назад

    How would you compare the mechanical shutter sound to the original S5 and to my favorite, the well dampened S1?
    Thank you so much for the thorough, straightforward review.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      Thanks! I don't have the others side by side and I've not used them for a long time BUT as far as I understand, the S5 II shutter mechanism is the same as the S5, only able to go 2fps faster.

  • @angeloplayforone
    @angeloplayforone Год назад

    As always one of the best review on You Tube. Now that you are the only one focusing on the photography side of this camera we can conclude that the stills feature are very good and even indeed the best but very overlooked. Most users of Panasonic sits in the video market. Will you create a video only on video features of this camera as Auto Focus, IBIS, Full auto expose and auto focusing when vlogging outside?

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      Thanks! Yes I always plan to make TWO videos for every new camera, one concentrating on photography and another on video. I already have all my results, but every time I try to make the review, another product comes along and demands my attention! So I already have a backlog of cameras needing reviews of their movie modes including the Fujifilm X-T5 and Canon EOS R7. My next priority is a photo review of the Canon R6 II.

    • @angeloplayforone
      @angeloplayforone Год назад

      @@cameralabs I’m waiting for all those reviews.

  • @kevincarter5548
    @kevincarter5548 Год назад

    thanks Gordon great review of the photography capabilities of the S5II. As someone with minimal interest in video this was very informative thank you. Your review has prompted some serious thinking on whether or not I need a FF to supplement my mainly Lumix MFT set up - I'm too committed and enjoy some of the cheap and cheerful MFT lenses to play around with to completely change systems. The S5 has always interested me as menus and ergonomics similar to my current G9 and G85 - with the S5II may be a few bargain S5s to be had and I don't think I'd miss PDAF - already in Australia I've seen new S5 with 20-60mm lens at only just over half the price of the S5II with the same lens - tempting....

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      Sure, if you don't need PDAF then the older S5 could be a bargain!

  • @nellatrab
    @nellatrab Год назад +1

    Excellent Gordon...thank you!

  • @IslandFilmMaker
    @IslandFilmMaker Год назад

    Always seen the great benefits of LUMIX Cameras. The reason I've been using them for 8 years now. I have never been turned off by their DOD AF however PD AF is a GAME CHANGER for Panasonic as it will put them up in the TOP 4 FF Camera Brands by 2024 with new models coming.

  • @daliamosesp
    @daliamosesp Год назад

    I'm so happy about this! I personally won't upgrade as I don't do much video work where I need continuous auto focus - but it's really good news for the L mount in general if this picks up.. more lenses on the horizon?

  • @daniltar
    @daniltar Год назад

    Please tell me how to set up the camera so that it immediately shoots without a magenta tint. So that you can immediately post it on social networks. What settings need to be changed? I am newbie

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      Why does it have a magenta tint? Make sure your white balance is set to Auto and you're using the standard or natural styles.

  • @kerrotravels
    @kerrotravels Год назад

    Thanks for an incredibly comprehensive review. I've seen claims the LCD does an 'exposure preview' when half pressing for focus. Can you turn this off, and is it perhaps only LCD. I'm a portrait photographer so trying to determine if this is my next step up from Fujifilm XT3.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      I'm not seeing the image do anything when I half press the shutter, other than focus. Maybe they're using a different setting

  • @justforschool26
    @justforschool26 Год назад

    How do you think the lumix would preform in low light event photography or weddings? I’m interesting in the Sony, but the lumix caught my eye.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      I think it would be fine as you can see from my results in the video!

  • @alchemymagick
    @alchemymagick 8 месяцев назад

    Hi there, I’m considering going from the R6 to the S5IIX for hybrid shooting. However, the excellent AF & tracking on the Canon, especially on the PHOTO side has me hesitating. However I know LUMIX just release a firmware update with improvements to their AF. So I’m wondering if this will compare it to the Canon AF at all? Any suggestion on which way to go? Thanks!!

  • @blueaquilae
    @blueaquilae 5 месяцев назад

    The most detailed and ethics review. thanks!!!

  • @wildlifehouse
    @wildlifehouse Год назад

    Great review! For wildlife, bird and macro videography, using the new Sigma 60-600mm, would you go with the Panasonic Lumix S5II or Sony A7IV? Thanks!

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      That's a tough one. Are you asking which has the better animal detection in video? I think Sony's might be a bit better right now, but the S5 II has other video benefits which could be useful to you.

    • @wildlifehouse
      @wildlifehouse Год назад

      @@cameralabs yes definitely a tough one. Sony does seem to have an edge in the animal detection department but wonder if the S5II's other benefits overcome that advantage. Also concerned about potential overheating on the A7IV. Also am wondering if the S5II X is worth waiting for. Thanks!

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      @@wildlifehouse Since the S5II X has already been teased, I'd say it's worth waiting a couple of months if you're on the fence. It's mostly about recording options though as far as I understand.

    • @wildlifehouse
      @wildlifehouse Год назад

      @@cameralabs okay, thanks!

  • @tahirmafzal
    @tahirmafzal Год назад

    Hi Gordon, thanks for yet another excellent review. I own S5 mk i and use it mainly for still photography of family events. I find that focusing is sometimes slow and sometimes wrong. Do you think it is worth upgrading to mk ii? Is there significant improvement in auto focus for stills to justify around £700 expense?

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      I'd say the speed is similar, but it's better at continuous AF, especially for video

    • @tahirmafzal
      @tahirmafzal Год назад

      Thanks Gordon. I think I’ll wait until mk iii for the upgrade which may also give more resolution that I need for cropping.

  • @marin_real_estate_photography
    @marin_real_estate_photography Год назад

    Thanks for the review, Gordon. I think I heard Panasonic say that they are working on a firmware update for Live Composite mode, which I guess isPanasonic's version of multiple exposures (I haven't used it myself so can't compare directly). You briefly mentioned that one of the benefits of the R6 II is full-frame 4K 60p, and I hope in your upcoming video review, you can compare the quality of the 4K 60p video between the R6 II and the S5 II. As I understand it, the 4K 60p video of the R6 II is supposed to be piexel binned / line skipped in some way (according to CineD). So it would be great to see a REAL WORLD comparison in low light / high ISO, as well as in a high dynamic range shooting situation. Maybe it makes a difference, or maybe it doesn't???
    As for me, personally, depending I plan on waiting until the S5 II X comes out in May, if I can wait that long. Although if I have jobs coming in where I need the PDAF of the S5 II, then I certainly wouldn't hesitate to get one.

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      Yes, I hear live composite is coming in a firmware update, but it's different from plain multiple exposures. i hope they add that too.

    • @marin_real_estate_photography
      @marin_real_estate_photography Год назад

      @@cameralabs Thank you for the reply, Gordon. As mentioned above, I do hope that you get a chance to compare video QUALITY between the R6 II and S5 II (and also dynamic range, since I think the first time you reviewed R6, it only had C-LOG 1 and now I believe it has C-LOG 3 - apologies if I am mistaken).

    • @marin_real_estate_photography
      @marin_real_estate_photography Год назад

      Still looking forward to the review of the VIDEO capabilities of the S5 II. Thanks in advance.

  • @adamwhittingham86
    @adamwhittingham86 Год назад

    Hello Gordon. After hearing about Samyang joining the L-mount alliance today I jumped right on to RUclips to check out your photography focused reviews. From your uses, for photography would you go with Canon R6/6ii or s5ii? I shoot mostly landscape and travel. Sometimes a little action with birds. Ergonomics of canon is hard to beat but this Panasonic looks close!

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад

      Everything I know about them both is in this review! The Lumix is looking strong, especially with all the Sigma lenses.

    • @adamwhittingham86
      @adamwhittingham86 Год назад

      @@cameralabs cheers Gordon. The addition of Samyang is an added bonus now. I'll have to try get my hands on the s5ii and feel the ergonomics for myself 👍

  • @sue.Hoo123
    @sue.Hoo123 Год назад

    Great review, thank you. Currently a G9 + pl100-400 user mainly for wildlife , would love to stay with Panasonic, but it looks like the R6ii with RF100-500 might be better?

    • @cameralabs
      @cameralabs  Год назад +1

      You'll find either an upgrade over the G9, but I personally found the animal / bird subject detection, faster mechanical bursts and pre-capture modes on the R6 II made it better for wildlife overall. BUT that's just for the body. You have to take lenses into consideration and the RF ones aren't cheap. There is that 100-400 though if you can't stretch to the 100-500,

  • @erbartlett
    @erbartlett Год назад

    I'm going to upgrade from a GH5, but I'm nervous to pull the trigger without know it's going to do all the things the GH5 did? I mostly shoot video, but I do the odd photo shoot for product photography (some macro). Anything I should be aware of?