My grandfather is also an Iraqi Jew, and he told me how they lived there for centuries before going to Israel in 1950. I adore this man for telling the truth and advocating for the rights of the Palestinians.
Mossad planted bombs in Jewish communities in Middle Eastern countries to encourage them to flee to Israel, this gentleman speaks of the evidence for this, but I am unsure yet if this was when he was interviewed recently on another RUclips channel.
@@Anp562 In the late 1940's and early 1950's there were tensions between the Jewish community and the rest of the Iraqi people, probably because many Jews were suspected as Zionists. Meny left where they could. However, I believe that if the state of Israel was not created and the known atrocities didn't took place, his family would have stayed there. Today Iraqi Jews count no more than several thousands, and their number remained the same for 70+ years
I met many Arab Jews, and they all regret being in Israel. Arab Jews are an integral part of Arab culture, and they have been dislocated by Zionism's barbaric principles.
I agree. There's no single wrong word by the professor in the whole interview. Precise words and conclusions. I learned a lot about Iraqi Jews and 1948 war. Thanks TRT.
@@jurekwilczynski4279 lies! there is no evidence that the bombimgs were by the Zionists, in fact by the time of the fatal bombing of January 1951, most of the Jews had registered to leave. Shlaim minimises the responsibility of the Iraqis for persecuting Jews, arresting and executing Jews, stripping them of their rights and stealing their property.
I am so moved by this erudite, reflective, and compassionate man. He doesn’t hide or justify that he was once a Zionist, but accepts it at face value. And he is also very honest about the Palestinians and the Arabs. Great and very insightful interview. Thank you both very much.
Ariella Aïsha Azoulay / Algerian Jews Have Not Forgotten France’s Colonial Crimes A recent report neglects to mention how France forced Arab Jews to adopt the European persona of Jew as citizen and see Arabs and Muslims as others.
He still is a zionist pretending to be progressive and taking the crosshairs of of Jews like him onto white Europeans THATS his goal and you idiots fall for it hook line and sinker
Very informative talk 🙏. I grew up in Morocco. The 3 religions were, and still are, living in harmony. It is interesting for me to hear that it was the same in Iraq. Many Moroccan Jews who were enticed to emigrate to Israel ended up very disappointed and segregated against. A significant number moved back to Morocco. My fundamentalist catholic father was a very fervent Zionist, and the dynamic and rethoric of Israel is very familiar to me despite the fact that I never went to Israel... My heart is bleeding to see this horrific carnage happening. 😢
Wow mind blowing interview Can the western governments listen to this brother ? Specially Biden who is blindly following war criminals Netanyahu regime !!
Thank you Professor Shlaim. You are a voice of wisdom, authority and moral conscience. I will definitely buy a copy of your new book, Three Worlds. Excellent interview.
Perhaps some of us are unaware that he is literally pretending to be Black. As an Israelite I am fascinated by the fact that nonblack people believe that a book that starts with Genesis ie human origins is not about Black people.
That he's a liar that agrees with you does neither you nor him credit. Do 30 seconds of research and you will find his story absolutely false, including regular massacres going back as far as we have records.
What's happening in Gaza is a terrorist act that terrifies the world, just like what Hitler did to the Jews. Why doesn't the world want to classify Netanyahu as a war criminal? Why doesn't the world want to classify the Israeli government as a terrorist group even though Israel is a terrorist state against all international laws?
@nawari.Lol.. Israel is the one whitewashing history. Most of the western media narrative is based from them. They own the media. Just because his narrative is different from what you've been told all this time, doesn't mean he lies
@nawari.He very clearly explained that he was one of a group of three "new historians" who had, in the 1980s, taken the opportunity of studying all the newly released official documents from the postwar period archives of Israel, the USA, Britain, the United Nations, etc, in order to establish the facts and write, for the first time, the new history that these documents revealed. Read his book and check his sources before you cast judgement.
@@CrusaderGeorgeWBushlol yes the ottoman empire all jews live under it happily, muslims bring back jews after they were exiled and forced to convert to Christianity by the byzantine empire, pick a book, hide your ignorance and your hate to islam
@@CrusaderGeorgeWBushIt’s not false, it also the case for the Islamic period of the Iberian Peninsula, and for Islamic North Africa, where many Jews fled to when they were expelled from Spain by the Christians. Your BS Fox News and AIPAC talking points have misled you.
I'm 90s Arab, and my wish is to witness the time you lived. Where Arab Muslims and Arab Jews were thriving together, and Palestinians Muslims and Jews at peace 😢❤
Amazing human being, alongside all the 'new historians', who have courageously risked everything to tell a very different and most important story. It is beyond moving to learn that Jews were in Iraq since the days of the Persian, and, presumably, the Babylonian empires, three thousand years ago. That is mind blowing. And how tragic it is that he was made to feel ashamed of such an extraordinary legacy. Is there no end to the sadness?
Very intelligent person and very much humble person,thank you so much for educating us about Israel how it established.we know little about Arab Jews and Palestinian’s existence, hope you will talk about that next time
Thank you TRT and Prof. Avi Shlaim for educating us. We blind ourselves to history at our moral and physical peril. Thank you for your courage and determined persistence in shedding light. It's up to us now to take up our responsibility.
Ariella Aïsha Azoulay / Algerian Jews Have Not Forgotten France’s Colonial Crimes A recent report neglects to mention how France forced Arab Jews to adopt the European persona of Jew as citizen and see Arabs and Muslims as others.
But Arabs are not indigenous to this area. But ok, we all should do DNA-tests and go back where we came from. The land belongs to the indigenous and just to the indigenous. In Israel, in Turkey, in Australia, in America, in New Zealand, in Europe, etc.
Also there aren't Jordan, Saudi, Syria, India and Pakistan. All these countries were created at 40 s. Countries voted in UN 48 for both Israel and Paleistinians creation. These other countries were created even without votation
@@SUPERDAVE-jx8mp There are 'indigenous' Africans of all skin colours, hair types and facial features - if you travel throughout the continent you encounter a vast variety of ethnic groups even within individual countries. Concepts of 'black' will be revealed as an obvious social construct of racist ideology. We are none of us indigenous - I think we need to share the land we love...
@@epona1525 Depend what you mean by 'Arab'... The Levant has been a melting pot since the stone ages. You can't go back to where your ancestors came from because human beings are all intermixed and have inhabited different parts of the globe at different period in history - populations have moved around. We'd all end up going back to Africa. 😏
The real question is why are they seemingly getting away with thousands of war crimes and crimes against humanity when billions of people bear witness to their guilt? There is something extremely wrong here.
Jews were persecuted and discriminated against in Europe at that time when nationalist European ideologies were emerging. Jewish people were very aggressively excluded from these nationalisms. Therefore the people around Herzl (the Zionists) developed the ideology of their own Jewish nation. However, the nation state was missing. That's why they wanted to found it in Palestine. No, they didn't think much about the Palestinians. They were a persecuted minority in Europe. But apart from that, they were Europeans and the normal racist view that Europeans of that time had of the rest of the world was also theirs. Incidentally, this European view has not fundamentally changed since then. Well, maybe with young people. The sheer barbarity of the Holocaust left Europeans around the world with a guilty conscience after World War II. Suddenly they wanted to see the Jews as their equals and wanted to fulfill them a wish. The fact that the Europeans themselves didn't have to give up anything to fulfill this wish made it even easier. And again they didn’t think much about Palestinians or Arabs. Regardless of their religion, Arabs simply did not play a role in these considerations; they were not important. As I already said, normal European racism.
@@raibilrei Good summary, Without the access to the western media middle easterners have been demonized by Jews and Israeli propaganda. Thankfully the internet has made it possible to bypass mainstream media and show people the truth. My hope is that once today's young people eventually take over the reins of power things will befin to change.
@@Waitingformarty also USA has used Israel as a buffer against so called Arab hostility and also as a base for it's ongoing conflict with Russia. It is the biggest supplier of arms to Israel and gives billions in "aid" to them. It keeps the armaments industry in the USA and UK and other Western European countries very happy, the so called military-industrial industry. As I often say follow the money.
Ariella Aïsha Azoulay / Algerian Jews Have Not Forgotten France’s Colonial Crimes A recent report neglects to mention how France forced Arab Jews to adopt the European persona of Jew as citizen and see Arabs and Muslims as others.
Yes! Nazism was the end result of the anti-Semitism that started in Europe centuries ago. If the Jewish people hated the Europeans then it would be understandable, but No! The Jewish people appear to hate the Arabic people instead!☮
The Arabs have use Palestinians as a pawn to eventually conquer Israel. It didn’t work. It will not work. It’s a tragedy that their own people could care less about them. The fact that Egypt and Jordan close their borders tells you everything you need to know.
This was such an interesting interview, from a unique perspective and I have learnt so much. Thank you Professor for sharing and thank you TRT for seeking out such a special story
Antisemitism was exported from Europe to the Middle East because there was no tradition of antisemitism in the Arab world before World War 1. Antisemitism was born in Europe in the Middle Ages; and the holy church had a lot to do with antisemitism.
@@DaveStuart-n8ihistorically there is no better protector of Jews than under Muslim rule This new found love between Jews and westerners is new and does not hold a candle to the amount of centuries of peace between Muslims and Jews prior to Zionism that does not mean there was no problems but the exception does not become the rule But in the west it does you guys bend narratives to suit your needs and then go ahead and believe your own lies
Always believed Europe was the continent that hated itself. All their civil wars and World wars. They also exported hate, crusading, Zionism, colonialism.
The greatest voice on the conflict of all time. Thank you for shedding light on this subject and unifying the world against the racist colonial apartheid state of Israel and the complicity of the Western powers. Much love to this man.
Thank you Avi Shalom for making it clear the European Ashkenazi rule and dominate the politics of Israel, and Sephardic (couscous) jews are considered irrelevant other than supporting the population numbers, for they lived in peace and harmony throughout the Maghreb before the establishment of Israel, a European look out post as Chomsky so admirably described.
Egyptian Jews for the most part were also very well integrated into Egyptian society. The best example is Ellie Cohen, who didn’t want to leave Egypt and had to be forced by the Israeli secret service to move out.
A gentleman who has allways been very special gift for humanity and great reputation as a historian of the middle east countries and more, great reporting and information about the situation nowadays and the HISTORY of the Jews of Europe and the Arabs countries also Zionists Israel in Palestine 🇵🇸 ❤
Go to google news website, search for Trucknet Enterprise. There’s a Dec 27 article that describes how this Israeli company was working with those five states to create a land bridge so that goods can be delivered to Israel despite the Houthi blockade. That bridge is functioning now.
I’m certainly not interested in refuting your point. But I am wondering why you wrote that? Does it go back in history? Or is it because they aren’t taking Palestinians in now? If it’s the latter, then from my understanding, it’s because they know that if they assist Israel in clearing Gaza of Palestinians, it’s all over for them to ever go back and have their homeland. And each country does already have hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees because of all the other Israeli atrocities over the past two decades. So it seems a tough position to be in - keep them in Gaza and have so many killed? Or get them all out only for the whole population to lose their home? Neither is a good choice, but I suppose less killing is better. But where will Israel turn next to steal more land? West Bank? As if they haven’t stolen enough of that already? 😢
Go to Google News and look up: Trucknet Enterprise. Read the Dec 27 article in Times of Israel. This Israeli company is working with five Arab states to create a land bridge so that Israel continues to get goods despite the Houthi blockade.
Then, as a follow up, taken note that a few days there was a story from India about how trade unions in India are refusing to load weapons on container ships destined to Israel. Well, given the Houthi blockade, then how is it possible for any ship to get its cargo to Israel? Through the Arab land bridge. That means these five Arabs states have not only been undermining Houthi economic pressure to force Israel into a ceasefire, but they’ve also been facilitating the continued flow of weapons (and domestic goods), by way of their land bridge.
I have Iraqi friends whose parents commiserate about the lost relationships with Jewish Iraqi friends. I have heard these commiserations for 40 years. On the other hand, Canadian Jewish people I knew of Ashkenazi heritage referred to my hairdresser as a dirty *** as he was from Morocco. I questioned this position. The superiority/inferiority paradigm was clearly a normalized belief.
I already feel like I know you and I do not see any difference between us. You will always be loved and respected by Arab like me. I am an Egyptian and I can relate to what you are saying
Yes the Arab Jews were normal. Untill the European jews came. They have to much influences from the Europeans therefore they do not belong in the Middle East. The Arab Jews those who never left the Middle East belong there. The European jews are the violent variant
People of this caliber are rarer than diamonds, brighter than light. Truth, truth, and nothing but the truth. In the presence of such humanity, I feel insignificant
Just to note there are 300.000 documents which are still classified some of them are from 1820 which was long before the creation of the state. That is very telling in the fact that what we don’t know is even worse than what we know.
Absolutely, this gentleman is a breath of fresh air. I really like listening to it because I love the history of religions and their chronology, anthropology etc... It's very instructive and enriching for anyone who wants to free themselves from clichés and idiocies. Moreover it was the British government which administered Iraq at the time, which decided to establish a Hashemite kingdom in Iraq and Faisal became king of Iraq in 1921 before dying in 1933 You have to see the traitorous Sykes and Picot (the destruction of the Ottoman Empire). His grandson Faisal II was deposed and assassinated during General Kassem's coup d'état on July 14, 1958. Churchill boasted of having created Jordan with a pencil one afternoon in Cairo. In fact, it is especially Great Britain which is at the origin of all the region's ills. The English were deeply racist and the USA much more anti-Semitic than the Germans before 1945. It was Freud who wrote this in his analysis of Wilson, and co-written with one of the latter's right-hand men. Before the 19th century, the term "anti-Semite" did not exist, it was anti-Judaism. And I believe that Zi****ism represents a danger for Judaism...
Anti-Semitism is actually a very accurate term The hatred of Europeans towards Jews stems from ancient Aryan hatred for Semites The thing is that Jews also play Anti-Semitic canards when talking about "Arab beasts"
@@Miki-fl9ez Not really accurate, because semites encompass all those who descend of the peoples originated in the region that today encompasses Palestine, Jordan as well as parts of Lebanon and Syria, regardless of religion, and, according to most historians, a great number of jews (mainly those of European origin and their descendants, which make up the majority of Israelis, btw) are very likely NOT semite, which not only makes the choice to broadly apply the term exclusively to jews (to the exclusion and erasure of arabs) technically wrong, but also a clearly VERY intentional political one.
Jews and Arabs have always lived together and it went fine. Until Jews came from east of europe. They came to live in an environment which was not theirs carrying a lot of hatred from europe. They could live together if Israelis did not feel so much contempt and superiority towards Palestinians. We all can live together if we want to...Don't live with hatred...we are better than that...@@moshezarviv1252
@@moshezarviv1252Arabs and Jews have always lived together. It might be difficult to imagine for the Jews from Europe but it was the case. The Palestinians are not our enemies. We need to learn how to live together. This genocide can’t go on…We are better than that! I hope you find peace in your heart.
@@ninaji2892 really , lived together ? all jews were expelled from arab countries and most Palestinians stand with hamas who want to destroy israel. my peace is to understand that you can't make peace with the one who wants to destroy you. be careful not to disappear with false peace . get real peace when both sides are interested in !!
@@moshezarviv1252 A lot of them moved for different reasons…I think Palestinians need to have their own country where they live free and feel safe without any occupation or control from another state…a solution needs to be found as none of them is safe as long as it goes on…Maybe Israel needs a new government…Peace is the only way forward… i don’t think Hamas wants to destroy Israel. I think they are a resistance group, all occupied countries need to resist their occupiers…We need to believe that a coexistence is possible otherwise it will be war for ever and all the Jews in the world need to feel safe wherever they are…
My grandfather is also an Iraqi Jew, and he told me how they lived there for centuries before going to Israel in 1950.
I adore this man for telling the truth and advocating for the rights of the Palestinians.
Mossad planted bombs in Jewish communities in Middle Eastern countries to encourage them to flee to Israel, this gentleman speaks of the evidence for this, but I am unsure yet if this was when he was interviewed recently on another RUclips channel.
Why did he not continue living there? How many jews left in iraq today?
@@Anp562 In the late 1940's and early 1950's there were tensions between the Jewish community and the rest of the Iraqi people, probably because many Jews were suspected as Zionists. Meny left where they could. However, I believe that if the state of Israel was not created and the known atrocities didn't took place, his family would have stayed there.
Today Iraqi Jews count no more than several thousands, and their number remained the same for 70+ years
I met many Arab Jews, and they all regret being in Israel. Arab Jews are an integral part of Arab culture, and they have been dislocated by Zionism's barbaric principles.
@@Anp562there were also suspected false flag attacks on jewish places of worship
I really could listen to this man all day. Not just the content of what he says but the melody he brings to his words.
👍👍👍
he's a liar paid by iran
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I agree. There's no single wrong word by the professor in the whole interview. Precise words and conclusions. I learned a lot about Iraqi Jews and 1948 war. Thanks TRT.
@@jurekwilczynski4279 lies! there is no evidence that the bombimgs were by the Zionists, in fact by the time of the fatal bombing of January 1951, most of the Jews had registered to leave. Shlaim minimises the responsibility of the Iraqis for persecuting Jews, arresting and executing Jews, stripping them of their rights and stealing their property.
Thank you for bringing this amazing person here and doing this interview. Time well spent
I am so moved by this erudite, reflective, and compassionate man. He doesn’t hide or justify that he was once a Zionist, but accepts it at face value. And he is also very honest about the Palestinians and the Arabs.
Great and very insightful interview. Thank you both very much.
I so agree with you.
Ariella Aïsha Azoulay / Algerian Jews Have Not Forgotten France’s Colonial Crimes
A recent report neglects to mention how France forced Arab Jews to adopt the European persona of Jew as citizen and see Arabs and Muslims as others.
I wholeheartedly agree .
Rony Brauman de " Medecins sans Frontieres" étaient sooniste zusdin jusqu'au jour où il a commencé à se poser des questions...
He still is a zionist pretending to be progressive and taking the crosshairs of of Jews like him onto white Europeans
THATS his goal and you idiots fall for it hook line and sinker
Very informative talk 🙏. I grew up in Morocco. The 3 religions were, and still are, living in harmony. It is interesting for me to hear that it was the same in Iraq. Many Moroccan Jews who were enticed to emigrate to Israel ended up very disappointed and segregated against. A significant number moved back to Morocco. My fundamentalist catholic father was a very fervent Zionist, and the dynamic and rethoric of Israel is very familiar to me despite the fact that I never went to Israel... My heart is bleeding to see this horrific carnage happening. 😢
My brother have you watched the documentary “return to Morocco” from Al Jazeera? It is on RUclips. Very interesting (fellow Moroccan here!)
@@Freetoughts no I haven't. Thank you so much for letting me know! I am looking forward to watching it. 🙏
Wow mind blowing interview
Can the western governments listen to this brother ? Specially Biden who is blindly following war criminals Netanyahu regime !!
@@Freetoughts I have watched it. Really wonderful, lots of memories. Thank you for suggesting it. 🙏
@@Freetoughts, I looked it up. Nothing showed up on RUclips.
Thank you, Professor Shlaim, for speaking up for our Palestinian sisters and brothers, you're a good and honest man.
He’s a liar. He’s literally placing blame for antisemitism on Europeans when Europe is the only place Jews flourished
Thank you, for telling the truth.
Thank you Professor Shlaim. You are a voice of wisdom, authority and moral conscience. I will definitely buy a copy of your new book, Three Worlds. Excellent interview.
Prof. Avi Shlaim, you have my utmost respect for speaking out. Our moral duty is to stand up against this monumental injustice🙏🙏
Wonderful Soul ....A Noble man !
Perhaps some of us are unaware that he is literally pretending to be Black. As an Israelite I am fascinated by the fact that nonblack people believe that a book that starts with Genesis ie human origins is not about Black people.
Professor Shlaim is a great humanitarian and a fine scholar.
That he's a liar that agrees with you does neither you nor him credit. Do 30 seconds of research and you will find his story absolutely false, including regular massacres going back as far as we have records.
Thank you professor for sharing your story with us.
@nawari.Could you please be more specific? 4:45
What's happening in Gaza is a terrorist act that terrifies the world, just like what Hitler did to the Jews. Why doesn't the world want to classify Netanyahu as a war criminal? Why doesn't the world want to classify the Israeli government as a terrorist group even though Israel is a terrorist state against all international laws?
@nawari. How was he whitewashing his history? And do you mean his Iraqi or Israeli history?
@nawari.Lol.. Israel is the one whitewashing history. Most of the western media narrative is based from them. They own the media. Just because his narrative is different from what you've been told all this time, doesn't mean he lies
@nawari.He very clearly explained that he was one of a group of three "new historians" who had, in the 1980s, taken the opportunity of studying all the newly released official documents from the postwar period archives of Israel, the USA, Britain, the United Nations, etc, in order to establish the facts and write, for the first time, the new history that these documents revealed. Read his book and check his sources before you cast judgement.
Wonderful testimony. There was a time, not so long ago when Muslims, Jews and Christians lived side by side in harmony throughout the Middle East.
so false
@@CrusaderGeorgeWBushur hopeless Zionists
They did live in harmony for 500 years under the ottomans wings
@@CrusaderGeorgeWBushlol yes the ottoman empire all jews live under it happily, muslims bring back jews after they were exiled and forced to convert to Christianity by the byzantine empire, pick a book, hide your ignorance and your hate to islam
@@CrusaderGeorgeWBush stop your lies crusadeorGeorge, Europe killed Jews, may your heart fill with guilt and condemn yourself.
@@CrusaderGeorgeWBushIt’s not false, it also the case for the Islamic period of the Iberian Peninsula, and for Islamic North Africa, where many Jews fled to when they were expelled from Spain by the Christians.
Your BS Fox News and AIPAC talking points have misled you.
Thank you for this interview. Professor shlaim speaks so clearly and gently. With moral rectitude and historical knowledge. May justice prevail.
Once in a while we came across good honest men who is not afraid to tell the truth,thank you professor Avi Shlaim. ❤️
I'm 90s Arab, and my wish is to witness the time you lived. Where Arab Muslims and Arab Jews were thriving together, and Palestinians Muslims and Jews at peace 😢❤
Amazing human being, alongside all the 'new historians', who have courageously risked everything to tell a very different and most important story. It is beyond moving to learn that Jews were in Iraq since the days of the Persian, and, presumably, the Babylonian empires, three thousand years ago. That is mind blowing. And how tragic it is that he was made to feel ashamed of such an extraordinary legacy. Is there no end to the sadness?
God bless this man . Why this kind of people never get power ? We would have much better world and hope for humanity.
My cynical reply is that very few people who aspire to power are benevolent.
What would we do without people like Avi? Thank you for having him on.
Very detailed truth of history. Great job.
thank you
You’re doing God’s work here by peacefully spreading the truth despite the threats, and continuing to call for peace. 🙏 Ameen.
Thank you Doctor Shlaim for standing up for justice and truth
Very intelligent person and very much humble person,thank you so much for educating us about Israel how it established.we know little about Arab Jews and Palestinian’s existence, hope you will talk about that next time
Thank you TRT and Prof. Avi Shlaim for educating us. We blind ourselves to history at our moral and physical peril. Thank you for your courage and determined persistence in shedding light. It's up to us now to take up our responsibility.
Ariella Aïsha Azoulay / Algerian Jews Have Not Forgotten France’s Colonial Crimes
A recent report neglects to mention how France forced Arab Jews to adopt the European persona of Jew as citizen and see Arabs and Muslims as others.
Excellent interview with some eye-opening facts.
So much respect to this guy. There is no so such thing as Israel. The land belongs to the indigenous Arab whether Muslims Christian or Jewish.
But Arabs are not indigenous to this area.
But ok, we all should do DNA-tests and go back where we came from. The land belongs to the indigenous and just to the indigenous. In Israel, in Turkey, in Australia, in America, in New Zealand, in Europe, etc.
Also there aren't Jordan, Saudi, Syria, India and Pakistan. All these countries were created at 40 s. Countries voted in UN 48 for both Israel and Paleistinians creation. These other countries were created even without votation
Do you think that socalled nonblack people are indigenous to northeast Africa?
@@SUPERDAVE-jx8mp There are 'indigenous' Africans of all skin colours, hair types and facial features - if you travel throughout the continent you encounter a vast variety of ethnic groups even within individual countries. Concepts of 'black' will be revealed as an obvious social construct of racist ideology. We are none of us indigenous - I think we need to share the land we love...
@@epona1525 Depend what you mean by 'Arab'... The Levant has been a melting pot since the stone ages. You can't go back to where your ancestors came from because human beings are all intermixed and have inhabited different parts of the globe at different period in history - populations have moved around. We'd all end up going back to Africa. 😏
The real question is why are they seemingly getting away with thousands of war crimes and crimes against humanity when billions of people bear witness to their guilt? There is something extremely wrong here.
Yep. It might have something to do with the amount of money they pay in bribes - sorry, I meant lobbying, in US particularly, and other countries too.
Jews were persecuted and discriminated against in Europe at that time when nationalist European ideologies were emerging. Jewish people were very aggressively excluded from these nationalisms. Therefore the people around Herzl (the Zionists) developed the ideology of their own Jewish nation. However, the nation state was missing.
That's why they wanted to found it in Palestine. No, they didn't think much about the Palestinians. They were a persecuted minority in Europe. But apart from that, they were Europeans and the normal racist view that Europeans of that time had of the rest of the world was also theirs.
Incidentally, this European view has not fundamentally changed since then.
Well, maybe with young people.
The sheer barbarity of the Holocaust left Europeans around the world with a guilty conscience after World War II. Suddenly they wanted to see the Jews as their equals and wanted to fulfill them a wish.
The fact that the Europeans themselves didn't have to give up anything to fulfill this wish made it even easier.
And again they didn’t think much about Palestinians or Arabs. Regardless of their religion, Arabs simply did not play a role in these considerations; they were not important.
As I already said, normal European racism.
Simple, they have the support of irresponsible war-mongering USA.
@@raibilrei Good summary, Without the access to the western media middle easterners have been demonized by Jews and Israeli propaganda. Thankfully the internet has made it possible to bypass mainstream media and show people the truth. My hope is that once today's young people eventually take over the reins of power things will befin to change.
@@Waitingformarty also USA has used Israel as a buffer against so called Arab hostility and also as a base for it's ongoing conflict with Russia. It is the biggest supplier of arms to Israel and gives billions in "aid" to them. It keeps the armaments industry in the USA and UK and other Western European countries very happy, the so called military-industrial industry. As I often say follow the money.
Thank you so much professor May God bless you
“anti-Semitism was a European, not Arab problem” NOTHING MORE TRUE THAN THIS QUOTE.
Ariella Aïsha Azoulay / Algerian Jews Have Not Forgotten France’s Colonial Crimes
A recent report neglects to mention how France forced Arab Jews to adopt the European persona of Jew as citizen and see Arabs and Muslims as others.
Yes! Nazism was the end result of the anti-Semitism that started in Europe centuries ago. If the Jewish people hated the Europeans then it would be understandable, but No! The Jewish people appear to hate the Arabic people instead!☮
@@freegedankenzurbaukunst5613Algerian Jews are Spherdic not Mizrahi.
@@freegedankenzurbaukunst5613yes u right
Islam existed long before europ antisemitism, read about haybar , its in the Quran
Brilliant interview ....one of the great Jewish historians .
Thank you professor!! You deserve so much respect!!
This man is a peace angel.
Thank you so much!! This is the history we need to hear.
Thankyou for this very informative interview!
Thank you Avi and TRT, we salute you
a lot of respect for this courageous man. his memoirs must be taught in all Arab schools as well as in Europe
The voice of humanity and love ❤❤❤
A kind and wonderful man. Thank you Professor Shlaim.
What a beautiful human. A treasure to humanity. Thank you.
What a wonderful man, thank u for your honesty!!
I love how the host DID NOT interrupt the guest.
Respect for you sir, thank you
Amazing guy, amazing interview.
The international community has greatly damaged the Palestinian people.
European community
Don't confuse Europe with the international community
The Arabs have use Palestinians as a pawn to eventually conquer Israel. It didn’t work. It will not work. It’s a tragedy that their own people could care less about them. The fact that Egypt and Jordan close their borders tells you everything you need to know.
Do you mean the several million dollars damaged the palestinians ? That's an original point of view. In which way? Let's listen.
Particularly the Egyptian, Jordianians and the gulf
What a Great Man, Great ideas!
Thanks, dear professor.
From Brasil.
What a wonderful interview and a wonderful man. Thank you.
This was such an interesting interview, from a unique perspective and I have learnt so much.
Thank you Professor for sharing and thank you TRT for seeking out such a special story
Thank you for this incredible interview
It is great that you are here ( alive) & speaking your truth , but i wish you good people could do something to save the Palestinian people today !
Antisemitism was exported from Europe to the Middle East because there was no tradition of antisemitism in the Arab world before World War 1.
Antisemitism was born in Europe in the Middle Ages;
and the holy church had a lot to do with antisemitism.
Please, the phrase was coined by German philosophers, but don't pretend that Jews were always treated well under Muslim rule.
@@DaveStuart-n8ithey were treated better to the point that an jews scholar told the jews to obey the muslim even if they haram you injustice
@@DaveStuart-n8ihistorically there is no better protector of Jews than under Muslim rule
This new found love between Jews and westerners is new and does not hold a candle to the amount of centuries of peace between Muslims and Jews prior to Zionism that does not mean there was no problems but the exception does not become the rule
But in the west it does you guys bend narratives to suit your needs and then go ahead and believe your own lies
@@algilani-military Well done.
Always believed Europe was the continent that hated itself. All their civil wars and World wars. They also exported hate, crusading, Zionism, colonialism.
The real Jews that were scattered so interesting thank you Professor
We have to translate his book to arabic. Thank you Iraqi Arabic Professor. I am proud of you ❤❤❤❤.
What a lovely articulate man… you are top class professor ❤
Everyone needs to hear this.
The greatest voice on the conflict of all time. Thank you for shedding light on this subject and unifying the world against the racist colonial apartheid state of Israel and the complicity of the Western powers. Much love to this man.
What a respectable, sincere and knowledgeable man.
Truth words 💯💪
This is an important interview and many people should hear this
Very interesting to hear how Jews from Arabic nations were treated!
I didn’t know Avi is a proud Iraqi , good to know.
Thank you Avi Shalom for making it clear the European Ashkenazi rule and dominate the politics of Israel, and Sephardic (couscous) jews are considered irrelevant other than supporting the population numbers, for they lived in peace and harmony throughout the Maghreb before the establishment of Israel, a European look out post as Chomsky so admirably described.
Ashkenazzis are extremely RACIST people
Thank you for sharing the truth!
Good history lesson. Thank you professor 😊😊😊😊😊
Thank you professor 🙌🏾
❤. Nice old man.
But only God knows the truth.
To bad Biden and Trump are not.
@@mimikhan9546But God wants us to seek it and not fear it.
Thank you professor, it means a lot to know the truth.🥰🥰🥰😍
Egyptian Jews for the most part were also very well integrated into Egyptian society. The best example is Ellie Cohen, who didn’t want to leave Egypt and had to be forced by the Israeli secret service to move out.
Thank you for hosting such a great speaker and giving him a voice.
A gentleman who has allways been very special gift for humanity and great reputation as a historian of the middle east countries and more, great reporting and information about the situation nowadays and the HISTORY of the Jews of Europe and the Arabs countries also Zionists Israel in Palestine 🇵🇸 ❤
God bless him wonderful interview.
Thank you I enjoy listening to this very intelligent professor.
Thank you Dr. Shlaim....you are a ray of light and hope for justice and peace!
True HUMAN BEING.
Without bias and agenda.
Very rare to see this classic ppl this days.
Hats off ❤❤❤
Too bad it's not factual.
merci beaucoup Pr Avi Shlaim.
What a wonderful human being. An example to us all.
Thank you. Wonderful interview both of you.
Very important interview. Thank you.
What a set of revolting rulers we have in Jordan, Saudi, UAE, Bahrain and Egypt.
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Go to google news website, search for Trucknet Enterprise. There’s a Dec 27 article that describes how this Israeli company was working with those five states to create a land bridge so that goods can be delivered to Israel despite the Houthi blockade. That bridge is functioning now.
I’m certainly not interested in refuting your point. But I am wondering why you wrote that? Does it go back in history? Or is it because they aren’t taking Palestinians in now? If it’s the latter, then from my understanding, it’s because they know that if they assist Israel in clearing Gaza of Palestinians, it’s all over for them to ever go back and have their homeland. And each country does already have hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees because of all the other Israeli atrocities over the past two decades. So it seems a tough position to be in - keep them in Gaza and have so many killed? Or get them all out only for the whole population to lose their home? Neither is a good choice, but I suppose less killing is better. But where will Israel turn next to steal more land? West Bank? As if they haven’t stolen enough of that already? 😢
Go to Google News and look up: Trucknet Enterprise.
Read the Dec 27 article in Times of Israel.
This Israeli company is working with five Arab states to create a land bridge so that Israel continues to get goods despite the Houthi blockade.
Then, as a follow up, taken note that a few days there was a story from India about how trade unions in India are refusing to load weapons on container ships destined to Israel.
Well, given the Houthi blockade, then how is it possible for any ship to get its cargo to Israel? Through the Arab land bridge.
That means these five Arabs states have not only been undermining Houthi economic pressure to force Israel into a ceasefire, but they’ve also been facilitating the continued flow of weapons (and domestic goods), by way of their land bridge.
Thanks for sharing this important discussion. Dialogue and diplomacy are what is always welcomed.
What a beautiful soul Avi is. Thank you for this insightful and honest interview.
I have Iraqi friends whose parents commiserate about the lost relationships with Jewish Iraqi friends. I have heard these commiserations for 40 years. On the other hand, Canadian Jewish people I knew of Ashkenazi heritage referred to my hairdresser as a dirty *** as he was from Morocco. I questioned this position. The superiority/inferiority paradigm was clearly a normalized belief.
I already feel like I know you and I do not see any difference between us. You will always be loved and respected by Arab like me. I am an Egyptian and I can relate to what you are saying
10:11 THIS is the key truth to this conflict. It’s not between religions, it’s between Europeans and others.
Very interesting
Yes the Arab Jews were normal. Untill the European jews came. They have to much influences from the Europeans therefore they do not belong in the Middle East. The Arab Jews those who never left the Middle East belong there. The European jews are the violent variant
People of this caliber are rarer than diamonds, brighter than light. Truth, truth, and nothing but the truth. In the presence of such humanity, I feel insignificant
Just to note there are 300.000 documents which are still classified some of them are from 1820 which was long before the creation of the state. That is very telling in the fact that what we don’t know is even worse than what we know.
A historian for our times. Truth being told by an eminent professor. Thank you.
Accuratly explained
Yep, bout’ time this is said. Thank you for the honesty! -middle easterner
Brilliant Professor, brilliant journalism ❤
Truth needs to come out. 😢
Absolutely, this gentleman is a breath of fresh air. I really like listening to it because I love the history of religions and their chronology, anthropology etc... It's very instructive and enriching for anyone who wants to free themselves from clichés and idiocies. Moreover it was the British government which administered Iraq at the time, which decided to establish a Hashemite kingdom in Iraq and Faisal became king of Iraq in 1921 before dying in 1933 You have to see the traitorous Sykes and Picot (the destruction of the Ottoman Empire). His grandson Faisal II was deposed and assassinated during General Kassem's coup d'état on July 14, 1958. Churchill boasted of having created Jordan with a pencil one afternoon in Cairo. In fact, it is especially Great Britain which is at the origin of all the region's ills. The English were deeply racist and the USA much more anti-Semitic than the Germans before 1945. It was Freud who wrote this in his analysis of Wilson, and co-written with one of the latter's right-hand men. Before the 19th century, the term "anti-Semite" did not exist, it was anti-Judaism. And I believe that Zi****ism represents a danger for Judaism...
Anti-Semitism is actually a very accurate term
The hatred of Europeans towards Jews stems from ancient Aryan hatred for Semites
The thing is that Jews also play Anti-Semitic canards when talking about "Arab beasts"
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The Europeans Jews aren't semite
@@Miki-fl9ez Not really accurate, because semites encompass all those who descend of the peoples originated in the region that today encompasses Palestine, Jordan as well as parts of Lebanon and Syria, regardless of religion, and, according to most historians, a great number of jews (mainly those of European origin and their descendants, which make up the majority of Israelis, btw) are very likely NOT semite, which not only makes the choice to broadly apply the term exclusively to jews (to the exclusion and erasure of arabs) technically wrong, but also a clearly VERY intentional political one.
@@Miki-fl9ez As to the hatred towards jews, Prof. Shlaim is absolutely correct, it stems mostly from the Catholic Church in the Middle Ages.
Avi is one of the most honest and knowledgeable historians on this topic, I have the deepest admiration for him.
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Israel should have been set in Germany or Poland instead of punishing palestinians for europeans crimes.
Lovely honest man. If all Israelis were like him, it wouldn’t be any genocide in Gaza…
because it wouldn't be any jews anymore , and you know it . but Am Israel Hai forever !!!!!
Jews and Arabs have always lived together and it went fine. Until Jews came from east of europe. They came to live in an environment which was not theirs carrying a lot of hatred from europe. They could live together if Israelis did not feel so much contempt and superiority towards Palestinians. We all can live together if we want to...Don't live with hatred...we are better than that...@@moshezarviv1252
@@moshezarviv1252Arabs and Jews have always lived together. It might be difficult to imagine for the Jews from Europe but it was the case. The Palestinians are not our enemies. We need to learn how to live together. This genocide can’t go on…We are better than that! I hope you find peace in your heart.
@@ninaji2892 really , lived together ? all jews were expelled from arab countries and most Palestinians stand with hamas who want to destroy israel. my peace is to understand that you can't make peace with the one who wants to destroy you. be careful not to disappear with false peace . get real peace when both sides are interested in !!
@@moshezarviv1252 A lot of them moved for different reasons…I think Palestinians need to have their own country where they live free and feel safe without any occupation or control from another state…a solution needs to be found as none of them is safe as long as it goes on…Maybe Israel needs a new government…Peace is the only way forward… i don’t think Hamas wants to destroy Israel. I think they are a resistance group, all occupied countries need to resist their occupiers…We need to believe that a coexistence is possible otherwise it will be war for ever and all the Jews in the world need to feel safe wherever they are…
Fascinating!
Best ever!! ❤❤ Truth needs to be told
Thank you for this interview ❤
So inspiring to see and listen this conversation...thank you😊
Thank you very much!