Ep. 1 | Lord Louis Mountbatten
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- Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2022
- In today’s episode Andrew and Phil explore some truly shocking allegations about one of the most celebrated figures of the 20th Century, Lord Louis Mountbatten, and reveal new evidence and insights into what could be one of the greatest scandals in the history of the British royal family.
Andrew’s book on Mountbatten and his wife Edwina created a sensation when it was published in 2019. Packed with new accounts of the highs and lows of a remarkable life it included the many rumours and allegations that had long circulated about the famous Lord, and critically it also included named witnesses testifying that they had been abused by him. The book - along with Andrew’s campaign to gain full access to the papers of the Mountbatten family - propelled the story onto the front pages of the British press for the first time.
Much of Andrew’s work involves a long-running British abuse scandal, the Kincora Boy’s Home affair. Having made a groundbreaking TV investigation of this story in the 1990s, breaking Britain’s Official Secret’s Act on behalf of the BBC, Phil brings a unique perspective of his own to this dark but fascinating subject.
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Lord Mountbatten, who Prince Charles was extremely close to and was his favourite uncle, introduced Jimmy Savile to Prince Philip and the rest of the royal circles in 1966, the year England won the World Cup.
Let that sink in.
Jimmy Savile was part of the innermost circle of the British Royal family for 45 years.
Buckingham Palace led the obituaries when he died.
Philip and Charles were both very close to Savile until his death. Prince Charles often described Jimmy Savile as one of his best friends. He wanted Savile to be Prince Harry’s godfather - wiser counsel stopped that but the two men shared many holidays and much else together.
How did Saville get to know Mountbatten? He supplied young boys to him. Simple as that.
Mountabatten had a holiday home in Co Sligo, Ireland called Classiebawn Castle where he held many many gay orgies for his very high ranking friends from Whitehall, M15, senior civil servants and other nonce aristocracy.
They were given a constant supply of young boys from the Kincora Boys' Home in Belfast, some of whom never returned. They were horrifically raped, abused, tortured.....then murdered for kicks and their bodies thrown off the sea cliffs at Classiebawn Castle in Mullaghmore, Co Sligo. Young lads in care that had no one looking for them or asking why they disappeared off the face of the planet.
It was getting so out of hand that the British Establishment knew when this info got out it would bring down the whole royal family and cause untold if not irreparable damage to the entire commonwealth.
Mountbatten had been Head of the British Royal Forces him and is still the longest-serving professional head of the British Armed Forces to date.
It was common knowledge what they were doing in Classiebawn with the young boys from Kincora and it was disclosed years later that M15 were part of a wider cover up regarding the boys home.
Savile was a regular visitor to Mountbatten in Ireland.
It is widely known in the area that British Secret Service provided the IRA with the information about him and encouraged them to blow up Mountbatten on his boat in Mullaghmore in 1979.
Mountbatten had been coming to stay in Classiebawn for over 30 years before his murder.
It is suggested the IRA may have killed Mountbatten because of the allegations that he was a child rapist rather than because of his position. There were a lot of IRA people in that area and its only a few miles to the Northern Ireland border. I am from around there and I am pretty sure by 1979 the IRA knew all about him and his behaviour. There were lots of rumours about these parties.
They could have killed him any time in the last 30 years of his life. Or would he have been too heavily protected by his minders during the troubles given his status not only in the Royal Family but also as the Head of the British Military?
Attempts to learn more about Mountbatten’s death have been thwarted by the failure of the UK National Archives to release its files about him, his murder or the Kincora Boys’ Home.
More than four decades have passed since the death of Louis Mountbatten, yet his diaries “remain so incendiary in the eyes of the government” that the authorities have gone to “extraordinary lengths” to keep them hidden from public view.
The Belfast Telegraph revealed that a number of closed files relating to Kincora are held in the Public Records Office of Northern Ireland and will not be open for decades.
According to the records office online catalogue, it holds 18 such files. One of them is closed until 2082 and others are closed until the 2060s. Some have no date for opening listed on the online catalogue.
Google any of the following and you will get more info on all of the above. Most of this was done, like Savile did his whole life, in plain sight.
Mountbatten Kincora Boys Home
Mountbatten M15
Mountbatten CIA
Mountbatten Jimmy Savile
Mountbatten Prince Charles
Kincora Boys Home
Prince Charles Jimmy Savile
Margaret Thatcher Jimmy Savile
Wow. I have feeling that much is - and will continue to be - coming to light these days. Thank you you, and people like you. The time has finally come for justice to do that which she must do
William has an uncle staying in the south of France. He is a known sex pervert, drug trafficker and the favourite uncle of William, who has visited his villa a few times with Kate. The video of this is now unavailable.
They may very well be winding up the whole RF, they seem to be dropping like flies.
Just wow!!! You put a lot of pieces together for me. Shocking, disgusting and disturbing. The Royal Family is shady!
Why did Mountbatten's killers have to take innocent children with him, they could have killed Mountbatten without killing innocent children at the same time.
What about Edward Heath, the bachelor gay, who also killed all his boys because he didn't want any witnesses. I saw a video 20 years ago which detailed how the Queen and Phillip, during an official visit to Canada, paid a private visit to an orphanage. 6 boys were taken out and never returned. But one boy survived and he made a police report about the whole affair. The Canadian govt instead of putting the police to investigate, formed a committee to hear the complainant. As expected, the complainant died before he met the committee. Everything was hushed up after that.
I heard about this sometime around 2011-12 when I was learning how to use my new IPad in the middle of the night thru the newly formed Twitter. I was staggered, the enormity of what was said put me off course for a long long while. This is hard stuff scandal indeed. Pity royalty is apparently closely involved, dare we believe our suspicions I wonder?
Mountbatten was King Charles’ great uncle on his father’s side. Once it was apparent that Elizabeth would some day become Queen, Mountbatten worked tirelessly to fix up Elizabeth with his pauper nephew, later Prince Phillip. Then he wormed his way into now-King Charles’ life. A relentless self-serving schemer
I think Andrew would agree Debbie
Mountbatten was second cousin to Queen Elizabeth and uncle to Prince Philip, the queen's husband.That's why they are all as mad as a box of frogs.
"I wonder why the FBI was gathering this information though..." Because J. Edgar Hoover kept files on everyone. He was a very interesting character himself.
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I am really enjoying this episode. I am currently following Cheere Denise's review of your book, Andrew. She is doing a brilliant job.
Thank you both for wonderful reporting and sharing your stories. I have shared your podcasts with many people and we are all now faithful subscribers.
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The upper classes leave a lot to be desired
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Excellent work. Louis Mountbatten has been too long venerated, as have so many royals and aristocracy across time who ought not to have been - indeed as one or two today are too fawned over by half. I've just discovered your channel - subscribed and binge listening now. Thank you for your work.
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This coverup is horrifying and discouraging. The fact that historians are willing to cover up child abuse to further their own careers makes me question human values
I'm starting from the beginning in the scandal mongers holiday. Thank you for these discussions, it's so nice to have big discussions held in a calm manner. Without people talking over each other.
The truth will always out.
This would explain why Edwina did her thing especially in India.
did PP cover this up to the queen? Why on earth did he suggest that Mountbatten teach /mentor PC, his son?????
Mountbatten was one of the few adults who took an interest in Charles
@@andrewlownie2033 Hmmmm
Mountbatten was Charles’ great uncle on his father’s side
Was Prince Phillip interfered with by Mountbatten? Malta!!! Mountbatten and Phillip were stationed there, a hot spot for gay men… geez And Charles left alone with Mountbatten, yikes! There is a huge cover up going on if the judicial system will not release papers purchased with tax payer money. The Royal family should NOT be allowed to interfere with anything judicial eg the queen stepping in on the Paul Burrell case. Long rant!!! Love the podcasts, raises a lot of questions, great work!!!
Loving your podcasts. Keep them coming.
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My biological mother stayed at Jimmy Savilles flat I'm thinking Portsmouth. Her name was Jessie Hepburn nee McLean. She was a gaelic singer who got a tribute on Radio Scotland.
Can you also confirm what is “Southampton” who bought the documents. Is it the University? Why were they so bothered about covering up Mountbatten? What was their motive?
@andrewlownie2033 would probably say that the university in under pressure of some kind but it remains something of a mystery
Okay I am going to watch and listen to all your videos in January 2024
Thanks Rich!
Hope that went well
This is very difficult, isn't it? He's gone. Perhaps he takes his errors with him. Thanks to Andrew Lownie and his excellent research, it's not rumours anymore, the record is now in the public domain. But I can't help wondering why on earth the Cambridges/Waleses would name their son after him?? Isn't that a bit much with all the royal names they could have chosen? I mean if the Queen wanted one of his names to be Louis, okay, but couldn't they have called him something else? Yikes.
Excellent point Liz
There's a difference between malicious gossip and fact.
I never thought about Jimmy Saville being my biological father. It was my half sisters who thought maybe. My putative biological father who is untraceable was JS John Scott. My biological mother a talented singer knew Jimmy Savilie. There's a picture of him in my half sister's house. I honestly would never have thought of this but anyway I had the most wonderful adoptive parents anyway.
Mountbatten was second cousin to Queen Elizabeth and uncle to Prince Philip, the queen's husband. That's why they are all as mad as a box of frogs.
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So! It was Andrew that exposed this story! I can recall learning that LLM liked little boys, perhaps this was around 2019 then? Interestingly, I’ve noticed that those I have spoken to about it since, give me a look of disbelief, as if this can’t be true, that I must have him confused with someone else. No one I’ve mentioned it to is already aware; shows how well covered up it is!
Indeed it was! Proud of my podpal.
The royal kiddie fiddler met his fate and is sitting in hell with Lizzie's and Phil's best and only friend
how do you two feel about the Crown's portrayal of him?
I think still over played but caught essence
You mention the Crowdfunder, can you supply link?
I will ask Andrew!
Thanks. Now closed
How did Pam feel about her father??
My mother knew Jimmy Savilie
Heretics rule !
Andrew Gold is our guest next Sunday!
The bigger story is Mountbattens brother 🥴
What do you know about George?
@@andrewlownie2033 legend has it he was Philips original " guardian" and had a longstanding,well known taste for young boys , but died rather suddenly, so Philips guardianship went to Louis
I've not seen evidence of interest in young boys. Where does that come from?@@gertyrood
@@andrewlownie2033 one of my many history/ biography books. May have read it in a lady c book 🤔 Maybe,the royal marriages? Not sure now. Just because you've not seen or heard any evidence, doesn't mean it hasn't been written down somewhere,by someone. 🙄
Lady Colin Campbell is not reliable. Just because it appears in a book doesn't mean it is true. I spent years going through private Mountbatten papers and researching the subject@@gertyrood
I think you have to be clear that being gay or bisexual has nothing to do with paedophilia/ child abuse. I’m not saying you were linking the two, however you spoke about them in the same example, of life being hard for those men in that era.
There is one thing being gay or bisexual and living an underground life and that of living a criminal and sexually abusive life. It has nothing to do with being closeted.
I agree Christopher and we tried to be careful around that v important point
You should spend more time on the allegations that Mountbatten imposed himself on young boys and girls, and less on his alleged homosexuality as such. Even if the 1940s and 50s, many proplr, including journalists and politicians, adopted a tolerant view of homosexuality. Arrests for this kind of behavior were rare if they involved consenting adults. But sex with underage boys and girls, then as now, was considered a completely different matter,
You repeated what so many newspapers have sloppily written, that he was uncle to the late Queen, when he was Philip's uncle and merely the second cousin of George VI. I find it hard to believe that alone gave him so much pull in the Royal Navy and HMG after the war started.
Important allegations told excruciatingly badly by two guttersnipes. They actually refer to children who were sexually abused as 'rough trade', imply gay men who went to Morocco may well have been tempted to dabble with children i.e. they repeat the paedophilia is next to homosexuality myth, when assessing the credibility of witnesses do so using social class, hence the wife of some bod is credible because she's posh whereas the servant class have to be assessed as to whether they're after money and this in a podcast about the upper class covering up child sexual abuse. Oh and repeatedly citing Carl Beech as a reason to be cautious is all well and good, but perhaps also bear in fecking mind half of the BBC's 1970s talent roster has since done time for abusing children. Overall the podcast came across as having the attitudes and heft of an ITV2 soap about journalism set in 1992.
I didn't understand the elaborate exposition by the gent on the left where he tried to make the connection with gay men at the time are already operating in the illicit trade.... therefore, to move to prostitution and child trafficking would not have seemed a long stretch.
I wish they’d leave the homosexual/bi sexual subject alone. If he was bi so what? No big deal, him and his wife worked in their own way.
Don’t like it mentioned as a pointer to pedophilia
I thought the tale was quite well told.
Calling them Guttersnipes is somewhat offensive, as you've no proof of such.
I suspect you've got a dog in this fight and I'm pretty sure I know what it is.
I thought you did a credible video, Phil and Andrew, about something very important.
Keep up the good work.
The curious thing missed by this video and by Andrew Lownie in his Mountbatten autobiography is that the "lady" who made the allegations to the FBI , Lady Elizabeth de la poer Beresford was seen to have no good reason to make it up. Andrew Lownie mentions that in his commentry on the FBI disclosure. However he over looks the death of Lt commander Hugh de la poer Beresford in the aftermath of HMS Kellys sinking in 1941. Its seems from posts on Mountbatten related videos on youtube that the Beresford family blame Mountbatten for Hughs death. Its highly likely the accusations were made by Lady Beresford in the anger of bereavement , Im pretty sure Andrew Lownie was aware of this just as he is aware the Historical investigation into institutional abuse in Northern Ireland failed to connect Mountbatten with Kincorra in any way. This was also left unmentioned in Lownies book of which without these allegations would have failed to generate the interest it did.
It was interesting to read that the Malta Times researched the "Red House" brothel after its mention in Lownies book and could find little evidence the building ever existed , nor in both public and private photo collections in Malta could they find a picture of this "notorious" establishment to verify it one way or another. Mountbatten had been on Malta on and off for 30 years in 1949 and had to ask his driver Ron Perks who had been on the island a few months where this notorious gay brothel was??? If he was gay he'd have found it in 30 years id think. How did Ron Petks know?? Did he frequent it???
This is just futher attempts to dismantle heros of our past.. the gay slur doesnt do the damage anymore so lets use paedo. "To the Evil everything appears Evil" Lucrezia Borgia.