Are Hognoses capable of Socialization

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  • Опубликовано: 17 ноя 2024

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  • @smscoal8579
    @smscoal8579 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great information. Thanks!

  • @commercialelectrician133
    @commercialelectrician133 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great video

  • @Familiarspirits
    @Familiarspirits 9 месяцев назад +1

    How do you know that they don't feel emotions?

    • @Angry_Hogs
      @Angry_Hogs  9 месяцев назад

      Im sure they have some level emotions but not the way humans express it: this os my reasoning behind it; they’re oviparous, the egg is an external placenta which they abandon and don’t raise their young like a mammal would (mice and bioger)… theu do tend to recognize clutch mates studies have shown. They also live in silence, very basic and limited social capabilities, they don’t vocalize or emit micro sonic sounds like most higher emotional animals. I will make a video as there are more reasons. Still learning myself.

  • @bnutz3k
    @bnutz3k 9 месяцев назад +1

    Pretty sure you deleted the shorter version right when I was commenting. :D
    For argument's sake, snakes do exhibit fear. Is fear not an emotion? Hognoses can be fearful and they can also appear grumpy. I agree they are not capable of complex emotion, but I like to think that they are able to feel some kind of contentment when not in a fearful state.

    • @Angry_Hogs
      @Angry_Hogs  9 месяцев назад +1

      Such a great elaborated comment! Fear is so interesting because it can be innate or learned. In animals obviously it is extreme terror, therefore; a survival reaction to a predator. It’s what has caused all these species to live in modern day world. However, it is still an emotion 🧐 but IMO, not in the way humans fear.
      They are instinctive and by familiarity to smell and certain stimuli, they respond. Unfortunately they are not a species to risk their life like dogs would. In fact they abandon their own young.

    • @bnutz3k
      @bnutz3k 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Angry_Hogs (some) humans instinctively raise up their kids to go to college, hognoses do not.
      I definitely do not think they have any advanced emotions, but fear/terror and "safe" seem to drive them as it does us. Just something fun to think about. Hard to prove beyond a doubt either way. I definitely do not feel like hognoses are 100% "soulless". My crested gecko on the other hand... 😆

    • @MedusaHerps
      @MedusaHerps 9 месяцев назад +2

      Great video. It does seem like a lot of people want to Anthropomorphize snakes. Instinctual responses like bluff strikes, or tail rattles are not learned, as even new born snakes will exhibit them.
      Acclimated to handling and their environment just means the animal has learned you are not a threat(they still may bite a stranger). We reinforce this state by providing food (big hairy ape not hurt, give snacks 😅).
      It would be interesting to see if any clinical research has been done on this.🤔
      Nice hat BTW.
      ✌️♥️🐍

    • @Angry_Hogs
      @Angry_Hogs  9 месяцев назад +1

      Like your train of thought, i highly recommend chapter 7 of the Origen of Species 👍
      the instinct of each species is good for itself, but has never, as far as we can judge, been produced for the exclusive good of others. It’s mind blowing to think that a little dose of reason and judgment come into play even in animals low in the scale of nature.
      It be interesting how hognose will evolve/adapt over time.

    • @Angry_Hogs
      @Angry_Hogs  9 месяцев назад +1

      Love the comment! I 100% agree with you, I love the word you used “anthropomorphize”… its the way we make sense of things :) …. They associate habitual occurrences as a positive or negative experience , and that’s what have to work with. Loved your comment!