Dennis was a hidden talent for so long. His recording "Only With You" is absolutely amazing (among others on Pacific Ocean Blue)! He burned out young but was one of my favorite in the band from day one. He brought energy and drive to The Beach Boys. Missed always.
Dennis was married 5 times. He married Lamm twice. Everyone forgets what he went thru being involved with Manson. He knew more than we'll ever know. He was afraid to testify. He lived with that guilt for the rest of his life. That was the cherry on the cake.
Not rock's greatest drummer or keyboard player in the technical sense, but what heart and soul Dennis had. After Brian, the best songwriter in the band.
Dennis had a lot of pain from his failed relationships, his father's lack of love and abuse towars him. By a certain point he was self-medicating far too much to compensate for this and it truly led to his downfall. He was helpless and it's too bad the Beach Boys unit was too dysfunctional at the time to do anything to curtail it. Dennis was a soulful, generous, caring guy from all I've read but his vices, demons, impulses and naiveness were his downfalls.
As someone that came out of it, before it actually did damage to me physically and mentally. Self medicating, is not why people drink and do drugs. We do it, because it seems fun and gets rid of stress. My family life was probably far worse than the Wilson's. My two brothers never cared about me. I was sent to a boarding school when I was 11, then lived in group homes and foster care. But not because I was even getting into trouble. But because it was a dysfunctional family, to say the least. But no one else and what they did, was the blame for me choosing to drink. I didn't really get into drugs much, because I saw I didn't need them to open my mind. I was already wide open. I started drinking for fun. And I did find that it made me more confident socially. But I stopped when I saw what it would do to me. Many people try to stop after it has already done significant damage to them. It isn't self medicating, it is self poisoning. I have met enough people that used alcohol to the point, they were mentally handicapped. They can't talk or think right, like people that have gotten severe head trauma.
I a Brazilian living in LA moved to a condo in Santa Monica,it was september 82. After a while almost every morning going to work there was this guy with a six pack of Colt 45 in his hands,we used to say hello to each other and i went on. Would come back around five sometimes he was there others not.Had no idea who he was,anyway one day got home and he was there at the yard and offer me a beer and that was my first beer with him.We introduce ourselves , Iam Marcos and he said his name Dennis we had a few and chat for almost an hour. Sure I knew The Beach Boys but even being a surfer and some of their songs was never a fan at the time i was 22. Life is funny cause he never once mention who he was besides Dennis,from that day on we became friends and the reason he was there so often , that i ask him. His answer was cause my neighbor a beautiful blonde young girl was his girl,can´t remember her name but was true. From this day on anytime he was there when I got home we drink beer and chat,was really cool. There i was with this guy always barefoot ,drunk but never out of line or looking waisted. Was for me a real fun and sometimes wise new friend, but I felt in his eyes something wasn´t right. After a month we were there drinking and laughing, we talked about Rio. surf Torrance,California women. guys bs. My soon to be wife arrived with her girlfriend and saw us there,her friend was older and also a singer. After few minutes we both said later and i went home. When I got in Mary her friend came running towards me and talking fast eating words,i said ,,what is going on Mary. She took some air and asked me,was funny,Marcos do you know who is that man you were talking with? I answer,sure is my friend Dennis why,it so happen Dennis was like a God to her and that was the day I found out who he was,the founder and drummer player of the Beach Boys. She told me the entire band history, which i only knew the name some of their musics and all from the same family´had no idea who Brian was his illness and etc. Couple of days later saw him and told what had happen,still remember him laughing so loud,he felt good and thought was funny. At the time it made no difference to me he being famous or whatever,he was just Dennis a new good friend that i could say anything i had in mind. I told him,my friend next time Mary comes over you will meet her and give her a kiss,and he did.Remember him asking,Marcos you like Eric Clapton? Said come on Dennis you know I do,he reach out of his pocket two tickets to see Eric at Long Beach and gave to me. The concert was on the next day,me and Jessica went to see and when we got in the Arena a girl with a flash light told us follow me. There we were at the second row few feet away from the stage,what a gift. Remember driving him in his silver BMW cause he was always drunk to Century city going in an office where he used to pick up some money a few times,also he saying he was a lousy drummer and the only reason he begged Brian to create the band was to pick up more girls. Dennis was a real handsome man and a beach bum and tired of his family,had nothing to loose and he did it. Got him and his brother away from his father,took care of Brian when he got mental and made all them rich.These were his words when i asked. If was not for him they all would be selling cars Brian would be in a Hospital or living on the street,and in the end when he was in need they all turn the back on him.Nobody from the band,his own brother,cousins gave him a hand to help him out. At least pay the debt on his boat. RIP my friend the Dennis that i had the pleasure to meet was a kind,giving good heart man
Que história maravilhosa e que sorte você teve de ter conhecido o Dennis, ele sempre foi o meu preferido e sempre achei que ele foi muito subestimado. Amo Pacific Ocean Blue e não pude deixar de chorar com o fim trágico que ele teve,mas saber que ele teve um brasileiro como amigo de alguma forma me reconfortou. Obrigado por compartilhar sua história .
When it comes to drug and alcohol abuse I'm not very sympathetic. Former Dodger manager Tommy Lasorda once said that drug and alcohol abuse isn't a disease, it's a weakness. I agree.
Holy fuck, I didn't know his voice was *that* fucked up... He can't even talk without sounding extremely raspy and like his throat is literally torn up. That was heartbreaking to hear, I literally winced at that. Mad respect for him still going up there and doing his best
I beg to differ. Dennis Wilson will go down in history as 1 of the best rock & roll drummers of all time. Had the occasion to meet Dennis on a flight from Chicago to L.A. I was working with John Coltrane & Roy Haynes' bands at the time, flying to LA to advance gigs for them. There was just us in 1st class and we talked all the way to LA about drummers - Mostly Jazz - Max Roach, Roy Haynes, Art Taylor, Elvin Jones ("Boy, if he only played Rock & Roll.." mused Dennis about Elvin). RIP. Luvya Dude
David Porter Dennis befriended Charles Manson and his group. They actually moved into his house. There was an altercation where Denny realized Charles was dangerous and he kicked the group out. He was just so loving and he gave everyone the benefit of the doubt. Anyways, I think that really did something to his psyche along with all the booze and partying.
Maye McDonald actually Dennis left his own house to Manson and moved in with Tony Usher, latter Charlie started threatening Dennis’s family by sending bullets, Dennis then beat hell out of Manson according to Usher.
It breaks my heart to see what happened to Dennis in the Late 70's. It's just too sad. Dennis was such a good guy, but the drugs took him. What a spirit he was. Wolfsky9
This is heartbreaking. People, this is what the aftermath of abuse looks like. Brian too. I hope Murray Wilson paid for what he did to those guys. Just seeing Dennis in this horrible shape and his talents going down hill is terrible. It really is. The problem is, people see these guys as their heroes and not as human beings. When they're seen in public, its like they get swamped with fans wanting something instead of approaching them as just people and having a regular conversation with them.
True enough. He did flippantly tell a reporter years later that when Murray collapsed his head hit the toilet seat and fell in the bowl. He was being mocking and sarcastic even describing his dad's death. But yeah he had made peace and even Murray admitted some of Dennis's songs were very good.
As if everything that had happened to Dennis up until the late 70's wasn't bad enough, losing his voice had to be the final blow for him. A quote from Dennis "I hope karma will f*** up Mike Love's meditation forever." I couldn't agree more, Denny, and you know, I think karma already has for Mike. His haters are growing by the day more and more and Dennis' fans continue to grow by the day more and more. Dennis made a REAL impact on a lot of ppl, he lives on "Forever".
Sorry fans, but besides the fact that Dennis Wilson was an amazingly talented, charismatic, kind person and my best friend, there is a crock of shit going on here on this documentary. Just picture this: This segment begins with my song, It's not too late. These bozos that appear on screen weren't even around at the time that yours truly was producing Bambu for Dennis. It is a long story, but basically after Dennis passed away and I left LA (I was the original producer of Bambu and I wrote the songs that were officially in it), these vultures took-over without my knowledge and here they are indulging their egos as if they had anything to do with it! It is easy to re-write history when the real people that made it aren't around - a big time cheap shot, as Dennis would have said....
Carli Munoz Dude, I produced and engineered for a living in NYC for a living for 15 years. I completed believe and understand what you mean. People are shit. I appreciate everything you had to say and all your input with Dennis creatively. Man, I love and miss Dennis. You so lucky to have worked with such a legend. Thank you.
At 10:13 into this video DENNIS WILSON says the words THE BEACH BOYS as he goes off the stage and he sort of admits that HE is not really a part of them in a way - what a moment - wow - !
Saw them on this talk show in 1980, when in school. It was sad as Dennis was really out of it. They didnt know how to react. I think the connection with Manson affected him more than anything.
Now I´m really sad. These war generation fathers sure were one of the reasons for the revolution of the young in the sixties. In the end Murray killed him. But thats only one opinion.
not really sure what that engineer is talking about, cos Brian gave Carl a lot of great leads i.e. God Only Knows and Good Vibrations just to name a few
How can anyone not see Shawn's resemblance to Mike? It's uncanny. Just look past the long hair and you can see the same nose, eye shape, and chin. Cheekbones are sort of too
Beatings from Mike Love's brothers played their part. Part of the reason he looked the way he did in the end was because Stan Love and Rocky Pamplin almost killed him for "supplying Brian with drugs".
When Mike Love dies, ppl are going to talk about what a jerk he was. I mean, they're already saying that, but when he dies.....that's going to be his legacy. I hope Brian is the last standing Beach Boy. The one everyone said was so fragile, or at least outlive Mike. Mike did some serious abuse mentally to Brian too, and he did it KNOWING Brian had problems. What a sick person Mike is. It's hard for me to see him without simultaneously being enraged and nauseated.
It’s funny seeing you people mad about something brian obviously moved on from a long time ago. what happened, happened. In the end of the day they’re all family and love one another unconditionally.
Christine McVie was pretty! I don't know what the bearded fellow is talking about, and that's really sexist, might I add! He makes it sound like Dennis was just using her, when he was clearly in love with her, and it was, of course, mutual!
It is a little rude for sure. Enamoured to the things around her and not in her beauty? And not a word about her personality? Maybe that was the key. Her personality. Anyway, who knows, I read in Carol Ann's book ( who was Lindsey's girlfriend for years) that one time Dennis told Christine that he slept with Carol Ann, and with another girl who was very close to the band (maybe Sara, but I'm not sure about that) and Carol Ann stood in the book that it wasn't true, and he only told that just to hurt Christine. ( It was also in the book that he wasn't sleeping since days when he said that, because the drugs kept him awake.)
@@lisellesloan3191 Yes, me too. Sometimes I wonder how many famous people had/has really dramatic lifes. And many musician had drug, alcohol or any other awful addiction and sadly some of them died very young. I wonder if it has something to do with coping with fame, or they would develop an addiction anyway.
His relationship with Karen was the ruination of his life. When I saw her at a Brian Wilson concert in London years after Dennis's passing, I cried and was not sorry to let her see me.
If the clip of You Are So Beautiful is from the last show Brian and Dennis did together it makes that 'memory' of 'the last time he saw Dennis' from Brian's supposed 'auto-biography' more real (written with a lot more tenderness than the tawdry clunky shit of part the rest of the book I've just skimmed trying to find that extract in google's preview).
It was beatings from Steve Love in the mid 70s and Stan Love in 1981, that damaged Dennis' voicebox and facial features. Mike liked to get his younger brothers to fight his battles for him.
dennishbergkamp yeah especially when one of them was professional athlete I'm talking about Stan Love who was a LA Laker at that time I don't know about Steve Love
Steve Love graduated from and then earned an MBA from USC, and was the Beach Boys’ business manager for awhile. He never beat up Dennis-to my considerable knowledge-a chore assumed by ex-NBA player, 6’ 7” Stan Love. Stan and his buddy Rocky Pamplin acted at the command of Mike Love.
@@lesliegoodman-malamuth9796 Steve Love apparently sucker punched Dennis in the throat during an argument in a restaurant. Separate from the incident where Stan and Rocky pummeled him.
@@dennishbergkamp Whoa. I don’t recall hearing/reading that it was Steve rather than Stan who punched Dennis in The Red Onion in Manhattan Beach (my home town, near Hawthorne). I’d say in any case that Mike, the oldest, had a powerful control over his brothers. I read recently in a comment from Steve himself (on a blog he visits often) that he has had no contact with Mike or Stan for some time.
@@lesliegoodman-malamuth9796 Steve did punch Carl in the face once because Carl gave Dennis money that Dennis used to buy drugs for Brian. The band fired Steve after that. He also was the one who made Blondie Chaplin quit the band because he didn't like that Blondie chewed gum onstage, so he grabbed it out of his mouth and called him the n word.
The tape of him “singing “ You Are So Beautiful should never have seen the light of day . A disgrace and shame on whomever let it be released . It is pathetic and although sad , an all too common Rock & Roll story .Did anyone try to get him help ?
It's sad he picked up a Charles Manson sycophant as she hitchhiked. Too much drugs; too much money = Not enough sanity & maturity! Not all of the music biz is glitter & sensation. It takes a few gold stars off the Beach Boys' shine. * Cav ~ U.S.D. '80! *
Just seen posts on the smileysmile forum claiming that the heartbreaking clip at the end isn't from the 4th of July concert - apparently somebody edited in the footage from another show when making An American Band. (the beach boys setlist archive website backs up that he didn't do it then) According to another post on another thread it's possible "Costa Mesa in August of '83". - last show both Brian and Dennis were at according to Andrew G. Doe's bellagio site.
Relivant threads are Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,8214.msg421813.html#msg421813 & Interesting story about the 1983 tour smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,13966.msg306365.html#msg306365
An American tragedy. AGAIN, it's alcohol. AGAIN. It is NOT funny what he's doing on 'Good Morning America'. It is actually 'Goodbye, Dennis'. But we could argue whether he was with God. (God-be-w'-ye). Why wasn't he? His brothers sang: "God only knows". How they must hurt to think of him. I lost my brother to it. Yes, and i hurt to think of him.
7:01 -- no wonder dennis wilson´s karma went downhill - a beach boy without a beard, oh no!! this is worse than a black cat breaking a mirror on friday the 13th...
Sorry fans, take all this with a grain of salt, specifically this segment. I can't believe how full of shit these people are! If Dennis had been alive he would have puked over them! I is easy to write history when the people that made it weren't present. This is the truth, whether they like it or no.
@@sharonramone7186 it was chain smoking and weed along with every kind of drug and alcohol that took his voice , did the same to Brian for the most part, they were a matter of the world at there feet , to much to fast , especially here in so cal.
Let’s not sugar coat it. Dennis was a ALCOHOLIC and drug abuser. As an alcoholic in recovery for 32 years, I can blame all sorts of external factors for my alcohol abuse. Fact is, everyone has external problems, that’s called life. Dennis never found recovery, and alcohol abuse leads to three areas, JAILS, INSTITUTIONS and DEATH. GUARANTEED. Dennis found out the hard way.
Let’s get real here. Dennis was a handsome guy who got a lot of mileage from his looks, but he was only marginally talented, had a shitty work-ethic and never sold an album or a concert ticket under his own name. Whenever we referred to Dennis back in the day, it was usually as something of a bad joke.... Most people are the authors of their own problems, and that was certainly true of Dennis Wilson.
I know right how come people can feel sorry for all the rockers like Morrison, Hendrix, Wilson, cobain,and many others who had more woman in month I had in a lifetime. And all the drugs, houses, cars, and money. I love there music but they had all there fun while they were big. Not going to feel sorry for that.
....Billy Preston wrote You Are So Beautiful....to think a caveman drummer like Dennis wrote that tune is living in a serious world of illusion....just ask his brother Brian....
Dennis was kind of a screw up who rode Brians wave of success till he just couldn't. If he wasn't a Wilson brother I do not feel the 'friends' here wouldn't have anything to do with him. Sorry but I have little sympathy for someone like him. He was a jerk unwilling to change. Then he hooks up with a teenager, no oh no. And they call Mike Love a jerk. Both are jerks. He can't even talk anymore. How many lives has he made worse...
Dennis was a hidden talent for so long. His recording "Only With You" is absolutely amazing (among others on Pacific Ocean Blue)! He burned out young but was one of my favorite in the band from day one. He brought energy and drive to The Beach Boys. Missed always.
Dennis was married 5 times. He married Lamm twice. Everyone forgets what he went thru being involved with Manson. He knew more than we'll ever know. He was afraid to testify. He lived with that guilt for the rest of his life. That was the cherry on the cake.
Carl was so supportive of Brian and Dennis.Love them all.
watching him barely able to sing you are so beautiful is heartbreakingly sad.he looks to be in so much emotional pain
I first met Dennis at the Ohio state fair in 1973.he was really friendly to me.
lucky!
So lucky!!
I met him to. 1980
Gone, but NEVER forgotten !
God bless the Beach Boys and Dennis....They have all paid heavily for the joy in the music that they provided for us fans.
Great film here but sad!
Not rock's greatest drummer or keyboard player in the technical sense, but what heart and soul Dennis had. After Brian, the best songwriter in the band.
Dennis had a lot of pain from his failed relationships, his father's lack of love and abuse towars him. By a certain point he was self-medicating far too much to compensate for this and it truly led to his downfall. He was helpless and it's too bad the Beach Boys unit was too dysfunctional at the time to do anything to curtail it. Dennis was a soulful, generous, caring guy from all I've read but his vices, demons, impulses and naiveness were his downfalls.
As someone that came out of it, before it actually did damage to me physically and mentally. Self medicating, is not why people drink and do drugs. We do it, because it seems fun and gets rid of stress. My family life was probably far worse than the Wilson's. My two brothers never cared about me. I was sent to a boarding school when I was 11, then lived in group homes and foster care. But not because I was even getting into trouble. But because it was a dysfunctional family, to say the least. But no one else and what they did, was the blame for me choosing to drink. I didn't really get into drugs much, because I saw I didn't need them to open my mind. I was already wide open. I started drinking for fun. And I did find that it made me more confident socially. But I stopped when I saw what it would do to me. Many people try to stop after it has already done significant damage to them. It isn't self medicating, it is self poisoning. I have met enough people that used alcohol to the point, they were mentally handicapped. They can't talk or think right, like people that have gotten severe head trauma.
Love Dennis!
I a Brazilian living in LA moved to a condo in Santa Monica,it was september 82. After a while almost every morning going to work there was this guy with a six pack of Colt 45 in his hands,we used to say hello to each other and i went on. Would come back around five sometimes he was there others not.Had no idea who he was,anyway one day got home and he was there at the yard and offer me a beer and that was my first beer with him.We introduce ourselves , Iam Marcos and he said his name Dennis we had a few and chat for almost an hour. Sure I knew The Beach Boys but even being a surfer and some of their songs was never a fan at the time i was 22. Life is funny cause he never once mention who he was besides Dennis,from that day on we became friends and the reason he was there so often , that i ask him. His answer was cause my neighbor a beautiful blonde young girl was his girl,can´t remember her name but was true. From this day on anytime he was there when I got home we drink beer and chat,was really cool. There i was with this guy always barefoot ,drunk but never out of line or looking waisted. Was for me a real fun and sometimes wise new friend, but I felt in his eyes something wasn´t right. After a month we were there drinking and laughing, we talked about Rio. surf Torrance,California women. guys bs. My soon to be wife arrived with her girlfriend and saw us there,her friend was older and also a singer. After few minutes we both said later and i went home. When I got in Mary her friend came running towards me and talking fast eating words,i said ,,what is going on Mary. She took some air and asked me,was funny,Marcos do you know who is that man you were talking with? I answer,sure is my friend Dennis why,it so happen Dennis was like a God to her and that was the day I found out who he was,the founder and drummer player of the Beach Boys. She told me the entire band history, which i only knew the name some of their musics and all from the same family´had no idea who Brian was his illness and etc. Couple of days later saw him and told what had happen,still remember him laughing so loud,he felt good and thought was funny. At the time it made no difference to me he being famous or whatever,he was just Dennis a new good friend that i could say anything i had in mind. I told him,my friend next time Mary comes over you will meet her and give her a kiss,and he did.Remember him asking,Marcos you like Eric Clapton? Said come on Dennis you know I do,he reach out of his pocket two tickets to see Eric at Long Beach and gave to me. The concert was on the next day,me and Jessica went to see and when we got in the Arena a girl with a flash light told us follow me. There we were at the second row few feet away from the stage,what a gift. Remember driving him in his silver BMW cause he was always drunk to Century city going in an office where he used to pick up some money a few times,also he saying he was a lousy drummer and the only reason he begged Brian to create the band was to pick up more girls. Dennis was a real handsome man and a beach bum and tired of his family,had nothing to loose and he did it. Got him and his brother away from his father,took care of Brian when he got mental and made all them rich.These were his words when i asked. If was not for him they all would be selling cars Brian would be in a Hospital or living on the street,and in the end when he was in need they all turn the back on him.Nobody from the band,his own brother,cousins gave him a hand to help him out. At least pay the debt on his boat. RIP my friend the Dennis that i had the pleasure to meet was a kind,giving good heart man
Wow, what a story. Sad that he became an alcoholic and died so young. Thanks for sharing.
I met him as well. What a great experience.
muito bom
Que história maravilhosa e que sorte você teve de ter conhecido o Dennis, ele sempre foi o meu preferido e sempre achei que ele foi muito subestimado. Amo Pacific Ocean Blue e não pude deixar de chorar com o fim trágico que ele teve,mas saber que ele teve um brasileiro como amigo de alguma forma me reconfortou. Obrigado por compartilhar sua história .
When it comes to drug and alcohol abuse I'm not very sympathetic. Former Dodger manager Tommy Lasorda once said that drug and alcohol abuse isn't a disease, it's a weakness. I agree.
- I wish he was still with us.
a sad look at Dennis' life, a sad life that could have, should have been so much happier... RIP Dennis
Hard to watch... but still grateful for this... Thank you.
Dennis underrated in his life time rip Dennis
Holy fuck, I didn't know his voice was *that* fucked up... He can't even talk without sounding extremely raspy and like his throat is literally torn up. That was heartbreaking to hear, I literally winced at that. Mad respect for him still going up there and doing his best
ikr! Poor guy. I wonder how he felt losing his voice :/ RIP Dennis
Same
LOVE 💕 DENNIS AND CARL, MISS THEM....♥️♥️♥️♥️🎵🎼🎶
I beg to differ. Dennis Wilson will go down in history as 1 of the best rock & roll drummers of all time. Had the occasion to meet Dennis on a flight from Chicago to L.A. I was working with John Coltrane & Roy Haynes' bands at the time, flying to LA to advance gigs for them. There was just us in 1st class and we talked all the way to LA about drummers - Mostly Jazz - Max Roach, Roy Haynes, Art Taylor, Elvin Jones ("Boy, if he only played Rock & Roll.." mused Dennis about Elvin). RIP. Luvya Dude
cinediscstudios no freaking way!
It's amazing to see these people who had life by the tail throw it all away and die young. Just amazing really.
David Porter Dennis befriended Charles Manson and his group. They actually moved into his house. There was an altercation where Denny realized Charles was dangerous and he kicked the group out. He was just so loving and he gave everyone the benefit of the doubt. Anyways, I think that really did something to his psyche along with all the booze and partying.
Maye McDonald actually Dennis left his own house to Manson and moved in with Tony Usher, latter Charlie started threatening Dennis’s family by sending bullets, Dennis then beat hell out of Manson according to Usher.
It breaks my heart to see what happened to Dennis in the Late 70's. It's just too sad. Dennis was such a good guy, but the drugs took him. What a spirit he was. Wolfsky9
Well when we became friends never once he took any type of drugs, and I know he was clean. Now a Colt 45 was like part of him.
This is heartbreaking. People, this is what the aftermath of abuse looks like. Brian too. I hope Murray Wilson paid for what he did to those guys. Just seeing Dennis in this horrible shape and his talents going down hill is terrible. It really is. The problem is, people see these guys as their heroes and not as human beings. When they're seen in public, its like they get swamped with fans wanting something instead of approaching them as just people and having a regular conversation with them.
True enough. He did flippantly tell a reporter years later that when Murray collapsed his head hit the toilet seat and fell in the bowl. He was being mocking and sarcastic even describing his dad's death. But yeah he had made peace and even Murray admitted some of Dennis's songs were very good.
10:12 : You're a Beach Boy too, Dennis...The real Beach Boy actually.
He probably knew the end was near.
Again, fantastic series of posts. Thanks so much.
As if everything that had happened to Dennis up until the late 70's wasn't bad enough, losing his voice had to be the final blow for him. A quote from Dennis "I hope karma will f*** up Mike Love's meditation forever." I couldn't agree more, Denny, and you know, I think karma already has for Mike. His haters are growing by the day more and more and Dennis' fans continue to grow by the day more and more. Dennis made a REAL impact on a lot of ppl, he lives on "Forever".
Dennis WilsonForever never thought of that
Let’s face it Brian was the major talent.
This is sad...I cant stop watching it though
Sorry fans, but besides the fact that Dennis Wilson was an amazingly talented, charismatic, kind person and my best friend, there is a crock of shit going on here on this documentary. Just picture this: This segment begins with my song, It's not too late. These bozos that appear on screen weren't even around at the time that yours truly was producing Bambu for Dennis. It is a long story, but basically after Dennis passed away and I left LA (I was the original producer of Bambu and I wrote the songs that were officially in it), these vultures took-over without my knowledge and here they are indulging their egos as if they had anything to do with it! It is easy to re-write history when the real people that made it aren't around - a big time cheap shot, as Dennis would have said....
Is there more unreleased stuff out there? I'm fascinated with this period of Dennis' life.
Jeb Banner
Yes, there certainly is.... I'm a little press for time now but i promise to send you a response, perhaps later on tonight.
Love Stevie I do not use this much Carli regular e mail is best
Carli Munoz I loved Dennis Wilson. Was so sad he passed away. I thought he was a great talent.
Carli Munoz Dude, I produced and engineered for a living in NYC for a living for 15 years. I completed believe and understand what you mean. People are shit. I appreciate everything you had to say and all your input with Dennis creatively. Man, I love and miss Dennis. You so lucky to have worked with such a legend. Thank you.
Addiction can get really ugly regardless of who it is. R.I.P. stay away from drugs and alcohol.
At 10:13 into this video DENNIS WILSON says the words THE BEACH BOYS as he goes off the stage and he sort of admits that HE is not really a part of them in a way - what a moment - wow - !
Heart breaking to me! Loved the Beach Boys! My favorite was Dennis! I hate the fact he suffered so much. 😒
I never knew Dennis and Christine had a romance .....!
Who is Christine?
@@joicegarrison3143 McVie, member of Fleetwood Mac.
Saw them on this talk show in 1980, when in school. It was sad as Dennis was really out of it. They didnt know how to react. I think the connection with Manson affected him more than anything.
Now I´m really sad. These war generation fathers sure were one of the reasons for the revolution of the young in the sixties. In the end Murray killed him. But thats only one opinion.
Thomas Knief I hadn’t thought about the impact the war would have had in Murray. You raise a good point.
Man, his vocals are painfully ragged!
not really sure what that engineer is talking about, cos Brian gave Carl a lot of great leads i.e. God Only Knows and Good Vibrations just to name a few
Wow--hard to believe someone can be that bad off at so young an age--39 is nothing--he's singing/looking like he is 70. Addiction sucks.
How can anyone not see Shawn's resemblance to Mike? It's uncanny. Just look past the long hair and you can see the same nose, eye shape, and chin. Cheekbones are sort of too
Thanks for this great video 👍
his voice, his house, everything, that's why when he died, they found him curled up, it was the end.
Beatings from Mike Love's brothers played their part. Part of the reason he looked the way he did in the end was because Stan Love and Rocky Pamplin almost killed him for "supplying Brian with drugs".
It would’ve been ideal if his “friends” would’ve gone down after him. Just 12 ft of water & they didn’t do shit
Poor guy...
I recall that embarrassing appearance on "Good Morning America", l couldn't believe it.
When Mike Love dies, ppl are going to talk about what a jerk he was. I mean, they're already saying that, but when he dies.....that's going to be his legacy. I hope Brian is the last standing Beach Boy. The one everyone said was so fragile, or at least outlive Mike. Mike did some serious abuse mentally to Brian too, and he did it KNOWING Brian had problems. What a sick person Mike is. It's hard for me to see him without simultaneously being enraged and nauseated.
Mike was never a fave, i get it.
I wont wait , he`s a jerk.
Always thought Mike was the least attractive member, was balding at 22 yo. , and really not much of a voice.
It’s funny seeing you people mad about something brian obviously moved on from a long time ago. what happened, happened. In the end of the day they’re all family and love one another unconditionally.
that guy from new yawk that talks with his hands drives me crazy
Christine McVie was pretty! I don't know what the bearded fellow is talking about, and that's really sexist, might I add! He makes it sound like Dennis was just using her, when he was clearly in love with her, and it was, of course, mutual!
It is a little rude for sure. Enamoured to the things around her and not in her beauty? And not a word about her personality? Maybe that was the key. Her personality. Anyway, who knows, I read in Carol Ann's book ( who was Lindsey's girlfriend for years) that one time Dennis told Christine that he slept with Carol Ann, and with another girl who was very close to the band (maybe Sara, but I'm not sure about that) and Carol Ann stood in the book that it wasn't true, and he only told that just to hurt Christine. ( It was also in the book that he wasn't sleeping since days when he said that, because the drugs kept him awake.)
@@paddington1919 Interesting. Yes, drugs and alcohol definitely damage your brain. Poor Dennis, I wish he'd have gotten better therapy.
@@lisellesloan3191 Yes, me too. Sometimes I wonder how many famous people had/has really dramatic lifes. And many musician had drug, alcohol or any other awful addiction and sadly some of them died very young. I wonder if it has something to do with coping with fame, or they would develop an addiction anyway.
@@paddington1919 With Dennis, I think it was because of his abusive father, who regularly beat him. Probably what caused Brian Wilson's issues, also.
His relationship with Karen was the ruination of his life. When I saw her at a Brian Wilson concert in London years after Dennis's passing, I cried and was not sorry to let her see me.
If the clip of You Are So Beautiful is from the last show Brian and Dennis did together it makes that 'memory' of 'the last time he saw Dennis' from Brian's supposed 'auto-biography' more real (written with a lot more tenderness than the tawdry clunky shit of part the rest of the book I've just skimmed trying to find that extract in google's preview).
shuttingtfu now before I either bore everybody or depress them even more than this documentary does.
Dennis was such a good guy it's too bad he couldn't get off the alcohol but I understand
It was beatings from Steve Love in the mid 70s and Stan Love in 1981, that damaged Dennis' voicebox and facial features. Mike liked to get his younger brothers to fight his battles for him.
dennishbergkamp yeah especially when one of them was professional athlete I'm talking about Stan Love who was a LA Laker at that time I don't know about Steve Love
Steve Love graduated from and then earned an MBA from USC, and was the Beach Boys’ business manager for awhile. He never beat up Dennis-to my considerable knowledge-a chore assumed by ex-NBA player, 6’ 7” Stan Love. Stan and his buddy Rocky Pamplin acted at the command of Mike Love.
@@lesliegoodman-malamuth9796 Steve Love apparently sucker punched Dennis in the throat during an argument in a restaurant. Separate from the incident where Stan and Rocky pummeled him.
@@dennishbergkamp Whoa. I don’t recall hearing/reading that it was Steve rather than Stan who punched Dennis in The Red Onion in Manhattan Beach (my home town, near Hawthorne). I’d say in any case that Mike, the oldest, had a powerful control over his brothers. I read recently in a comment from Steve himself (on a blog he visits often) that he has had no contact with Mike or Stan for some time.
@@lesliegoodman-malamuth9796 Steve did punch Carl in the face once because Carl gave Dennis money that Dennis used to buy drugs for Brian. The band fired Steve after that. He also was the one who made Blondie Chaplin quit the band because he didn't like that Blondie chewed gum onstage, so he grabbed it out of his mouth and called him the n word.
Hawthorne forever🏄♂️
That hurt. That hurts, alot. Damn substance!
In this part they called Mike's daughter Shaun Dennis' fifth wife but she'd be the fourth. Denny never married Christine McVie.
wildsmiley Denny married Karen twice. Perhaps that is why they say five marriages.
Why would they make him go on tv in that state?
Utterly embarrassing BUT he knew about the interview and he still partied all night the evening before. He had demons.
I have a question, How could the marriage between Shawn Love and Dennis Wilson been legal If she was Mike Love's daughter ???
tammymc63 Apparently she had also rebelled against Mike....
tammymc63 love was a cousin not that close in genes
bclmax and Mike was insisting she wasn't his... :-(
Putative first cousin,once removed. 'Laws may vary by state".
jesusisnotallright Really? How do you know this?
The tape of him “singing “ You Are So Beautiful should never have seen the light of day . A disgrace and shame on whomever let it be released . It is pathetic and although sad , an all too common Rock & Roll story .Did anyone try to get him help ?
Another life self destructed by drugs and alcohol.
It's sad he picked up a Charles Manson sycophant as she hitchhiked. Too much drugs; too much money = Not enough sanity & maturity! Not all of the music biz is glitter & sensation. It takes a few gold stars off the Beach Boys' shine. * Cav ~ U.S.D. '80! *
Just seen posts on the smileysmile forum claiming that the heartbreaking clip at the end isn't from the 4th of July concert - apparently somebody edited in the footage from another show when making An American Band. (the beach boys setlist archive website backs up that he didn't do it then) According to another post on another thread it's possible "Costa Mesa in August of '83". - last show both Brian and Dennis were at according to Andrew G. Doe's bellagio site.
Relivant threads are Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,8214.msg421813.html#msg421813 & Interesting story about the 1983 tour smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,13966.msg306365.html#msg306365
sorry, in tedious nerd mode.
I think possibly his time spent with Charles Manson also became a source of his demons and pain.
Never understood why they let the studio go, the money was there
Dennis was a drunk and and a pill popper!
It's panful to watch that Good Morning America segment with Dennis totally wasted on-air. You can see the embarrassment in his brothers' faces....
Dennis voice did change
why does that guy have sunglasses on
Maybe he's blind mate
He was nutty
...after Manson....era.
An American tragedy. AGAIN, it's alcohol. AGAIN. It is NOT funny what he's doing on 'Good Morning America'. It is actually 'Goodbye, Dennis'. But we could argue whether he was with God. (God-be-w'-ye). Why wasn't he? His brothers sang: "God only knows".
How they must hurt to think of him. I lost my brother to it. Yes, and i hurt to think of him.
Whoever is posting this was never been raised with him or had a conversation with him or had an entire lifetime with him don't talk
First of all that's my godfather and he was the only one there from he and he was the best man ever
R.i.
7:01 --
no wonder dennis wilson´s karma went downhill - a beach boy without a beard, oh no!!
this is worse than a black cat breaking a mirror on friday the 13th...
he already lived out the brothers, lucky man.
Sorry fans, take all this with a grain of salt, specifically this segment. I can't believe how full of shit these people are! If Dennis had been alive he would have puked over them! I is easy to write history when the people that made it weren't present. This is the truth, whether they like it or no.
Dennis was such good looking brilliant muso loved him RIP Dennis
I did not know drugs affected your singing Voice.
He started having trouble with his voice after one of Mike's brothers beat the crap out of him. And almost strangled him. Was it deserved? NO WAY.
@@sharonramone7186 it was chain smoking and weed along with every kind of drug and alcohol that took his voice , did the same to Brian for the most part, they were a matter of the world at there feet , to much to fast , especially here in so cal.
was that the finger at the end there?
6:07 - Dennis?
No doubt Denny 's abuse of poison had a detrimental effect on his singing.
The "remarriage" strategy is a recipe for disaster.
Powerful demons attached and destroyed Denis after being with Manson.How terrible sad
Nah, the demon was his father.
Let’s not sugar coat it. Dennis was a ALCOHOLIC and drug abuser. As an alcoholic in recovery for 32 years, I can blame all sorts of external factors for my alcohol abuse. Fact is, everyone has external problems, that’s called life. Dennis never found recovery, and alcohol abuse leads to three areas, JAILS, INSTITUTIONS and DEATH. GUARANTEED. Dennis found out the hard way.
How in the world could he be broke with royalties from the beach boys coming in.
Woah Dennis wasnt a singer but he tried
Cant blame the drugs!!!
Talent destroyed by drugs alcohol and a woman of turmoil.
Let’s get real here. Dennis was a handsome guy who got a lot of mileage from his looks, but he was only marginally talented, had a shitty work-ethic and never sold an album or a concert ticket under his own name. Whenever we referred to Dennis back in the day, it was usually as something of a bad joke.... Most people are the authors of their own problems, and that was certainly true of Dennis Wilson.
He married his illegitimate cousin.
weird
cousins daughter is that a second cousin or a kissin cousin ask Elvis
I wish the guys would of found their way to the barber (man they looked like *hit).....
Long hair is better haha
Agree!
its Southern Ca in the 60s 70s what would ya expect? lol
+Alec krueger Yeah...you are right about that.
I liked Dennis's long feathered hair.
How rude it is to wear sunglasses indoors. Don't care who you are.
poor guy. all that money and fame. must have been awful.
I know right how come people can feel sorry for all the rockers like Morrison, Hendrix, Wilson, cobain,and many others who had more woman in month I had in a lifetime. And all the drugs, houses, cars, and money. I love there music but they had all there fun while they were big. Not going to feel sorry for that.
So he married his daughter?
Kinda sounds like how Elvis ended his career.
I loved the Beach Boys, and Dennis. but he had no Voice.
such a shame he did it to himself with the alcohol and drugs sad
Loretta Lee No....Mike Love punched him in the throat and hurt his vocal cords! That was the beginning of the end of Denny’s voice.
Says a man with no ears apparently.
....Billy Preston wrote You Are So Beautiful....to think a caveman drummer like Dennis wrote that tune is living in a serious world of illusion....just ask his brother Brian....
sorry...but Dennis doesn't sing, he growls...and if he wasn't a Wilson, he'd have been a beach bum (which may have been better for him)...
Springsteen mostly growls, too.
@@TheBillyKmusic I AGREE !!!
I Am You And Guys Lost
Dennis was kind of a screw up who rode Brians wave of success till he just couldn't. If he wasn't a Wilson brother I do not feel the 'friends' here wouldn't have anything to do with him. Sorry but I have little sympathy for someone like him. He was a jerk unwilling to change. Then he hooks up with a teenager, no oh no. And they call Mike Love a jerk. Both are jerks. He can't even talk anymore. How many lives has he made worse...