Would like to note that emp grenades can detonate any C5 stuck to a vehicle. Have picked up some vehicle kills with this after someone gets C5 on but dies before they can detonate it.
For consistency ive gone back to the good ol' fashioned AT grenade. I did love lobbing an EMP at a vehicle and watch it slowly come to its death in a quagmire of doom.
It has its moments / uses, but after really thinking about it I’m going to the AT Grenade. Sadly the EMP just isn’t justifiable for me if it can’t take out APS.
As a frequent MBT, and TOR driver getting EMP'd is very annoying. In any other vehicle, it's a minor inconvenience. If you have repair equipped, you can immediately pop it, and it will completely negate the damage state. It absolutely should negate APS, in my opinion, at least then it would be useful.
True about Repair, but I do find most heavies today have APS. I really don’t think it’s right that landing an EMP can’t shut it down & create the opportunity. I agree outside of TOR, MAV and MBT it’s useless!! I have to ask one thing as a fellow Brit… did you get the Hamlet reference??
Yeah I should have mentioned this - was pressed for time & said it in the Rao video last week, but you’re absolutely right. That said I’ve found most big game these days are running APS, which is why I got tunnel vision on that point. You’re absolutely right though, should have said that!
Yeah I'm disappointed with the EMP Changes in S6 since it was way more effective as to Defend yourself against vehicles as a non engineer by forcing vehicles to retreat when weapons and Countermeasures disabled. and it was a lot more interesting and fair since there was better counterplay for both vehicles and infantry. This change I felt they could have added It as a new Engineer grenade as a EMP Disabler but Knowing DICE they Decided to do a whole rework no one asked for and then take ages to fix the fundamental issue with it. Personally I'd want to Revert the EMP change and Make the current EMP version it's own grenade or gadget since it has some Use but it's poorly shoehorned into an existing gadget and system before Removal of Casper's Drone EMP.
I’d take the old EMP back in a heartbeat. My private complaint is it’s clear the Grenade was nerfed as part of the Rao Hack Nerf. In my view, the grenade became the victim of the eternal pilots complaining about being targetted ongoing saga. It won’t be long until Dice replaces RPGs with nerf balls because we hit too many nightbirds 😂
It makes absolutely no sense that you can still use your APS when you get hit by an EMP. Good Video for teaching us everything we need to know about the EMP grenade. 👍
I’m just finishing off my list of things to close, season 7 is less than fulfilling for me. I’m really fed up with how Dice have nerfed many of my favourite toys, and there’s a total lack of 128 player content. I really enjoy the game and I’m not hating on it at all, but I think it’s time to move on after one or two final videos. Unless season 8 brings something massive, of course.
Great video! I do think that the EMP not disabling APS on tanks is a good balance. Having your turret rotation obliterated, movements crushed, AND not having APS for a tank would be a little too much imo. I think they SHOULD disable APS on mobile vehicles like the CAV and RAM though, because their movement is not affected at all
Thanks I’m glad you enjoyed it! Right ok, i hear you and completely understand BUT I’m still in the camp that if you get close enough to land an EMP you should be able to strip its defences. Especially since Assault is now a lot less dangerous / Lis can’t throw her AT mines. There’s just something that irks me too that an electric disabling weapon doesn’t disable electrics!!
Short, sweet and full of useful info. I didn’t know about APS and that the TOR / MAV got total engine failure when hit. I’ll keep an eye out for those opportunities. Cheers!
Thanks - really interesting, and reflects some questions I've asked myself. I noticed what I thought was inconsistent behavior, muttered to myself, and didn't investigate closer. This makes it possible to make informed decisions about what to choose. Also - what about the RAM, jeep, Bolte, hovercraft? I usually run RPG, tank grenade, and underbarrel AR. I know I could switch to C5 these days (I'm still MASSIVELY chuffed at assault players now only having 2 packets of C5!!! :D ), but that's not normally my playstyle. Maybe I'll change. (It's like when I play McKay or Sundance - I continue my plodding way of movement, despite having those magical movements skills at my disposal. I guess I just don't see them as true/valid BF skills/abilities.)
I was super pressed for time & didn’t focus on the smaller vehicles but from experience I know they’re unaffected in any real way. I’m an Engineer through and through, I used to love the EMP and part of me refuses to give up on it. That said after making this vid, with a heavy heart I am switching back to AT Grenades. Unless it can strip APS I don’t see its utility. I’m the same re: movement. You can take me out of Engineer, but you can’t take the Engineer out the player 😂
Good lessons all around! Playing engineer in this game has been frustrating for me, I think mostly because I restrict myself to LMGs like the class suggests. This gave me a couple good ideas for what to switch up.
Thanks for the feedback - did you watch the Crawford vs Lis vid? That’s a pretty good intro to Engineer, if you’re interested. The LMG is good but don’t be bound to it because of a passive stat boost. I’d say pick the weapon based on the map / game mode. Some times an SMG is the best call!
@@timelessgamer_UK That was actually the next thing I watched, and as a Lis main, it mostly rang true! I think my problem is I tend to get too aggressive/front line.
As always, great video! I always learn so much from your videos and truly appreciate the time you take making all these. Regarding the EMP: I used to love the EMP, and swore by it. Now since the changes its just not worth keeping over smoke or an AT grenade imo.
Thanks for the feedback it’s always good to hear people find these useful - I completely agree the EMP used to be a God tier weapon, I’ve wanted to make this vid for a while but needed to make sure season 7 didn’t have any surprises. Sadly it’s just another victim of the ongoing pilots vs everyone else argument. When Dice nerfed the Rao hack to please Nightbird pilots, they took all the EMP weapons with them. So sad. AT grenade it is!
Definitely a mixed bag. I think the AT grenade would be better, at least with my play style. In the heat of the moment I dont tend to think about the different effects it'll have on each vehicle. Just throw and hide. :)
Thanks a lot for your help with this one - it’s hard to tell in the thick of the chaos what’s actually going on sometimes, it was good to test in controlled situations! Yeah I mean they’re a mixed bag as you say. Or entirely useless but something I feel Dice has forgotten about in its endless quest to bow to Helicopter pilots. The victim of Rao’s hack being nerfed.
Agreed. I'd like to see a buff of some sort to Raos hacking and a nerf to the choppers...even if it's a reduction in damage to infantry. Encourage them focus on vehicles a bit more. But...that's not likely.
As a general rule, even when emps were more useful i still had anti vehicle grenades to gp with my ap launchers and shoulder launchers so this recent weakness doesnt affect me really. What do emo grenades do to gadgets now, still destroys them?
Yeah it still destroys them - it’s my fault I should have emphasised this better. In the Irish Trap vid I did last month I showed the EMP grenades taking out equipment (including Trophy) but I forgot to repeat the point here, was too focused on Vehicle hunting. Back in the day I adored the EMP it was God tier, so many fell to EMP and C5 trap. After this vid, I’m going back to AT Grenade. So sad, it used to be amazing!
Hey, I always see in your videos that the graphics of game looks awesome than mine game somehow. Would you please share your graphics settings and other settings such as color vibrancy if any???
My GPU is a Nvidia RTX3090 Strix, CPU Ryzen9 5950x. I play on a 4K ultra widescreen monitor. Other than that I haven’t changed a thing - GeForce Experience optimised the game for me on 60fps (I can run higher but I choice quality as being completely honest I can’t really see the difference above 60). That’s it - hope that helped
Got to test it in the lab before you release it to the public - with all the chaos in the game it can be a little hard to say for sure what happens sometimes. Don’t know if you saw but Dice just announced season 7 is fhe end. Sad face :(
The clip at the end is the exact reason why i always destroy even friendly AT mines before driving over them😂 The slightest wind will blow them and my tank up lol
There it is - makes my day to get that guy & his balloon 🎈 Thanks for the support - one day maybe the Great Algorithm in the Sky will notice me, but until then we grind on Anvil of Crom style until a bit of luck smiles on me :)
Would like to note that emp grenades can detonate any C5 stuck to a vehicle. Have picked up some vehicle kills with this after someone gets C5 on but dies before they can detonate it.
Good shout - I think that’s what happened with my magic EMP at the end 😅
For consistency ive gone back to the good ol' fashioned AT grenade. I did love lobbing an EMP at a vehicle and watch it slowly come to its death in a quagmire of doom.
It has its moments / uses, but after really thinking about it I’m going to the AT Grenade. Sadly the EMP just isn’t justifiable for me if it can’t take out APS.
As a frequent MBT, and TOR driver getting EMP'd is very annoying. In any other vehicle, it's a minor inconvenience.
If you have repair equipped, you can immediately pop it, and it will completely negate the damage state.
It absolutely should negate APS, in my opinion, at least then it would be useful.
True about Repair, but I do find most heavies today have APS. I really don’t think it’s right that landing an EMP can’t shut it down & create the opportunity. I agree outside of TOR, MAV and MBT it’s useless!!
I have to ask one thing as a fellow Brit… did you get the Hamlet reference??
@timelessgamer4359 I agree most Heavys have APS.
I did not but I am not the most cultured brit xD apologies.
@marzipandan767 don’t worry it seems everyone missed it - which makes it my fault! I thought it was funny 😂
Note to self - avoid Hamlet skull jokes!
good stuff
Yeah I should have mentioned this - was pressed for time & said it in the Rao video last week, but you’re absolutely right. That said I’ve found most big game these days are running APS, which is why I got tunnel vision on that point. You’re absolutely right though, should have said that!
Yeah I'm disappointed with the EMP Changes in S6 since it was way more effective as to Defend yourself against vehicles as a non engineer by forcing vehicles to retreat when weapons and Countermeasures disabled. and it was a lot more interesting and fair since there was better counterplay for both vehicles and infantry.
This change I felt they could have added It as a new Engineer grenade as a EMP Disabler but Knowing DICE they Decided to do a whole rework no one asked for and then take ages to fix the fundamental issue with it.
Personally I'd want to Revert the EMP change and Make the current EMP version it's own grenade or gadget since it has some Use but it's poorly shoehorned into an existing gadget and system before Removal of Casper's Drone EMP.
I’d take the old EMP back in a heartbeat. My private complaint is it’s clear the Grenade was nerfed as part of the Rao Hack Nerf. In my view, the grenade became the victim of the eternal pilots complaining about being targetted ongoing saga. It won’t be long until Dice replaces RPGs with nerf balls because we hit too many nightbirds 😂
@@timelessgamer_UKclassic DICE and Air Appeasement. I remember the nightbird was a Squad Trasport and not a heli sweats play thing
It makes absolutely no sense that you can still use your APS when you get hit by an EMP. Good Video for teaching us everything we need to know about the EMP grenade. 👍
I’m just finishing off my list of things to close, season 7 is less than fulfilling for me. I’m really fed up with how Dice have nerfed many of my favourite toys, and there’s a total lack of 128 player content. I really enjoy the game and I’m not hating on it at all, but I think it’s time to move on after one or two final videos. Unless season 8 brings something massive, of course.
Great video! I do think that the EMP not disabling APS on tanks is a good balance. Having your turret rotation obliterated, movements crushed, AND not having APS for a tank would be a little too much imo. I think they SHOULD disable APS on mobile vehicles like the CAV and RAM though, because their movement is not affected at all
Thanks I’m glad you enjoyed it! Right ok, i hear you and completely understand BUT I’m still in the camp that if you get close enough to land an EMP you should be able to strip its defences. Especially since Assault is now a lot less dangerous / Lis can’t throw her AT mines. There’s just something that irks me too that an electric disabling weapon doesn’t disable electrics!!
Short, sweet and full of useful info. I didn’t know about APS and that the TOR / MAV got total engine failure when hit. I’ll keep an eye out for those opportunities. Cheers!
Thanks glad you liked it - I’m on holiday so this is a bit of a rush job with the family being around! 😂
Thanks - really interesting, and reflects some questions I've asked myself. I noticed what I thought was inconsistent behavior, muttered to myself, and didn't investigate closer.
This makes it possible to make informed decisions about what to choose.
Also - what about the RAM, jeep, Bolte, hovercraft?
I usually run RPG, tank grenade, and underbarrel AR. I know I could switch to C5 these days (I'm still MASSIVELY chuffed at assault players now only having 2 packets of C5!!! :D ), but that's not normally my playstyle. Maybe I'll change.
(It's like when I play McKay or Sundance - I continue my plodding way of movement, despite having those magical movements skills at my disposal. I guess I just don't see them as true/valid BF skills/abilities.)
I was super pressed for time & didn’t focus on the smaller vehicles but from experience I know they’re unaffected in any real way. I’m an Engineer through and through, I used to love the EMP and part of me refuses to give up on it. That said after making this vid, with a heavy heart I am switching back to AT Grenades. Unless it can strip APS I don’t see its utility.
I’m the same re: movement. You can take me out of Engineer, but you can’t take the Engineer out the player 😂
Really useful, like the short format
Good lessons all around! Playing engineer in this game has been frustrating for me, I think mostly because I restrict myself to LMGs like the class suggests. This gave me a couple good ideas for what to switch up.
Thanks for the feedback - did you watch the Crawford vs Lis vid? That’s a pretty good intro to Engineer, if you’re interested. The LMG is good but don’t be bound to it because of a passive stat boost. I’d say pick the weapon based on the map / game mode. Some times an SMG is the best call!
@@timelessgamer_UK That was actually the next thing I watched, and as a Lis main, it mostly rang true! I think my problem is I tend to get too aggressive/front line.
You really deserve a much larger audience - truly
Thanks a lot for the support, I hope I get it one day
As always, great video! I always learn so much from your videos and truly appreciate the time you take making all these.
Regarding the EMP: I used to love the EMP, and swore by it. Now since the changes its just not worth keeping over smoke or an AT grenade imo.
Thanks for the feedback it’s always good to hear people find these useful - I completely agree the EMP used to be a God tier weapon, I’ve wanted to make this vid for a while but needed to make sure season 7 didn’t have any surprises. Sadly it’s just another victim of the ongoing pilots vs everyone else argument. When Dice nerfed the Rao hack to please Nightbird pilots, they took all the EMP weapons with them. So sad. AT grenade it is!
Definitely a mixed bag. I think the AT grenade would be better, at least with my play style. In the heat of the moment I dont tend to think about the different effects it'll have on each vehicle. Just throw and hide. :)
Thanks a lot for your help with this one - it’s hard to tell in the thick of the chaos what’s actually going on sometimes, it was good to test in controlled situations! Yeah I mean they’re a mixed bag as you say. Or entirely useless but something I feel Dice has forgotten about in its endless quest to bow to Helicopter pilots. The victim of Rao’s hack being nerfed.
Agreed. I'd like to see a buff of some sort to Raos hacking and a nerf to the choppers...even if it's a reduction in damage to infantry. Encourage them focus on vehicles a bit more. But...that's not likely.
thats why i use grenade launcher wit AP, RPG and anti tank grenade
Yep, as much as I wanted to believe in the EMP grenade, I think the AT Grenade is the better option in Season 7. Perhaps one day it’ll be restored.
As a general rule, even when emps were more useful i still had anti vehicle grenades to gp with my ap launchers and shoulder launchers so this recent weakness doesnt affect me really. What do emo grenades do to gadgets now, still destroys them?
Yeah it still destroys them - it’s my fault I should have emphasised this better. In the Irish Trap vid I did last month I showed the EMP grenades taking out equipment (including Trophy) but I forgot to repeat the point here, was too focused on Vehicle hunting. Back in the day I adored the EMP it was God tier, so many fell to EMP and C5 trap. After this vid, I’m going back to AT Grenade. So sad, it used to be amazing!
Quality content over there, +1 sub
Thanks really appreciate the support - hope you enjoy the rest of the channel.
Hey, I always see in your videos that the graphics of game looks awesome than mine game somehow. Would you please share your graphics settings and other settings such as color vibrancy if any???
My GPU is a Nvidia RTX3090 Strix, CPU Ryzen9 5950x. I play on a 4K ultra widescreen monitor. Other than that I haven’t changed a thing - GeForce Experience optimised the game for me on 60fps (I can run higher but I choice quality as being completely honest I can’t really see the difference above 60). That’s it - hope that helped
Thanks man! Videos are great as always! Keep it up!
Timeless, you could teach a college course on this game! Super knowledgeable, and love how you do your own testing!
Got to test it in the lab before you release it to the public - with all the chaos in the game it can be a little hard to say for sure what happens sometimes. Don’t know if you saw but Dice just announced season 7 is fhe end. Sad face :(
Picking it up over smoke is just not worth it 😢
Sadly agree - once upon a time it was so, so different 😅
excellent gameplay. very entertaining and good share my friend. keep it up, BIG LIKE #96. watching now
Thanks a lot! Hope you enjoy. Incidentally, what’s your thoughts if any on Hell Divers 2?
@@timelessgamer_UK Hell Divers 2 is one of my favorite games to play. really fun to play and mess around with your friends
The emp/smoke grenade combo was deadly back in the day 😔
It was so good - glorious C5 kills & hijackings all day long 🥲
The clip at the end is the exact reason why i always destroy even friendly AT mines before driving over them😂 The slightest wind will blow them and my tank up lol
Facts!
Thanks! You deserve a much bigger audience ... and🎈
There it is - makes my day to get that guy & his balloon 🎈
Thanks for the support - one day maybe the Great Algorithm in the Sky will notice me, but until then we grind on Anvil of Crom style until a bit of luck smiles on me :)