I almost done with my 408 stroker. I’m using a lot of y’all’s parts. It has a forged rotating assembly, clevite h series bearings, melling 10295 oil pump, y’all’s 8722R1 cam, btr springs, yella terra rockers, hardened push rods, ported 317’s, Hinson c5r timing chain, billet sprockets, 7 quart pan, Holley hi ram, 88mm turbo, Bosch 220’s 10an line, motion raceworks flex fuel sensor, gmpp 3 bar map, arp top to bottom, 50mm waste gate and bov, 4l80e with tci triple disc, hd2 shift kit with boost valve and servo… I still have quite a bit to add to it before it’s all done and drivable. I have a 1000whp on E. Y’all make building a LS easy as can be ESPECIALLY living close to Arlington!
Sounds pretty close to direction I'm going let me know how the 4l80 likes it So far I'm dailying my 6.0 4l80e these spring I'm hoping to drop it in 84 Cadillac Fleetwood with some Goodies possibly will do 408 rotating assembly hoping cnc ported stock LS head hold up to abuse as these trick flow costing
To make sure your intake valve is on base circle the best way is to put the push rod on the exhaust lobe of the same cyl. When the pushrod begins to open the intake is on base circle.
Wow😮, I would like that in my 2009 Silverado. I wouldn't have any problem with pulling my Mako boat to the coast. Oh yeah, I am still running the original 5.3 with over 250,000 miles, and no problems with it. I've only replaced number one coil, that's all I've done to that engine!
I went with a single turbo my build gen4 block 413 with 98mm turbo I'm using a turbosmart eboost 2 controller i can have 6 maps for e85 and 98 around town I got all my Aeromotive fuel system from summit and was painless getting it all sent to Australia as I couldn't get anything local that could handle my fuel needs nice to know I can get stuff sent from the USA to Oz without hassles
A better exhaust manifold and a slightly smaller turbo that still makes at least 1000hp but wakes up earlier would be something that i'd prefer for a "street" engine. Doesn't even need to be a 6.0 liter, a shorter stroke paired with a longer connecting rod would be nice for wear and tear especially with a 2618 alloy piston.
Most stock cases will take that much horsepower but the internals won't I would start from the torque converter or the flex plate torque converter all the way through the transmission if it's made out of something that doesn't wear out and it's hard I'd replace it with 300 m hope I'm saying that right for more the better quality last longer
Its based off the travel of the plunger in the lifter. My LS7 lifters, I measured .200 travel. So I preloaded the lifters at .100 to keep the push rods snug, and it also keeps them from ticking.
Yes, we have a full parts list. The only problem is the entirety of this build was brand new out of the Summit catalog. A person with a wasted 5.3 motor is going to save a TON of money in re-using viable parts that can be re-used to the same effect. Our goal is as to create a recipe for folks to replicate the functional recipe needed to make the power with their own junk-yard parts as needed. Hallelujah
I have a 2007 1/2 ton 5.3L LM7 Automatic. 145,000 eratic oil pressure. How much more HP can I throw at it before I have to replace everything else? 50HP? 100HP? LQ4 6L Regular Gas?
An lm7 bone stock is good to about 600hp reliably, but you wont see more than about 320-350 na. Before you do anything you should get your oil pressure up and reliable. Upgraded headers and a new throttle body are easy upgrades to get those numbers up from the stock 290 hp.
Summit I want to buy the 5.3 450hp 420 torque lm7 engine. Question is should I buy that one or a 6.0 . I want N/A power for now and then turbo it after. For a 2000 Chevy Tahoe 2wd. It's something different but I'm doing it.
My opinion. Go w the 6.0, for a truck that heavy. It 'll be plenty plus when u want to upgrade, more power& torque for almost same money as 5.3. Smidge more.
The difference is for a smaller engine like a 5.3, the engine isn’t going to make quite as much odd-boost torque. The turbos are actually a great match for a smaller engine than a 408. They are actually very undersized for a 408.
@@SummitRacing so is the 5.3 450hp 420 torque a good choice for turbo. And also does it really have way more power than a stock 5.3? I think that 5.3 is a cheaper way to go. The 6.0 will cost more to buy build and turbo
Would like to know what Westgate, Exhaust Manifold you guys are using? Also what wire harness you guys also using if you have part numbers I sure would appreciate it.
@@SummitRacing I use Summit branded parts. I have a Pro Ls truck cam now, and bought my first camshaft kit from Summit Racing in ‘97 at 14 years old. I just figured since VS racing got the blow off valve plug, the Canadians should get their BSI plug.
@@anotherbluenova6358 They make quality parts. I’ve run the Summit branded parts for years without a failure. Most everything they have is made in America. If it doesn’t meet the made in America standard then it’s indicated in the catalog.
I have the same parts in my lq4 same crank rods pistons and cam and snake eater 1000 injectors on terminator X max ECU same intake and throttlebody with stock 862 heads with twin vs racing 66/73 turbos in a 84 z28 Camaro
We ran C-16, because it makes detonation a non-issue, but E-85 would likely make greater power. Fuel flow with bigger injectors and pump/pumps may be a cheaper alternative.
I'd say it's pretty safe to assume 550-650hp if it's like most any other one. You gotta remember it'll be down on compression and won't have an optimum camshaft in it to squeeze every last N/A horse pressure out of it and mid range won't be real strong with that intake.. I've seen a few make a little less and a few make a good bit more but this is where a lot of them end up. I'd probably put this one on the upper portion of that range due to the cylinder head that's on it and I'd add 30-40hp to it if it was a 6.2l with a rectangle port on it.
Actually, as long as you are running a powdered-metal guide, the factory rockers and Pro Ls cams are designed to work with each other at .625 lift and below. It’s the lightest rocker at the valve and allows several hundred r rpm more with greater reliability than aftermarket roller rockers etc. a Trunnion kit is advised if the rockers have over 50l mileage on them.
I think when I got my cam it was 575/600 lift with 232/234 duration with 115 Lobe separation. I know you guys have changed the cam grind on the turbo stage 3 cam 2 times.or is it three time ?
That’s the conundrum. When we built this engine without a core to begin with, it was expensive because every little bracket and sensor needed to be accounted for. When you take your core plus the required Pro Ls and other components, it becomes way way less. A full list is upcoming.
@@SummitRacing you can't tell idiots nothing. He stated the whole damn build was FROM SCRATCH WITH EVERY PART ORDERED FROM SUMMIT CATALOGUE, FOR A 1000 HORSEPOWER BUILD. Obviously the point of the build , is to be illustrate summit has EVERY PART NEEDED FOR A BUILD LIKE THIS AND ALSO TO SHOW YOU DONT HAVE TO BUY THE MOST EXPENSIVE PART AVAILABLE. there's a whole damn list of parts you could reuse if you had a DONOR ENGINE OR ONE FROM A JUNK YARD. They had to buy every bracket and screw..ALL OF IT. So obviously THE PRICE WONT REFLECT WHAT YOU WOULD SPEND IN YOUR UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES.
@@BGCoop79 based on the video context, exhaust manifold and turbo piping. The intake manifold was already mentioned in the vid, so exhaust manifold is what's obviously being referred to by the comment.
Summit has a LS pro manifold set. You either buy one or the set. They’re a little pricey, but is an excellent product. My 408 is built using mostly summit ls pro parts.
Summit has a LS pro manifold set. You either buy one or the set. They’re a little pricey, but is an excellent product. My 408 is built using mostly summit ls pro parts.
We have a full recipe and you will likely have huge savings if you have a donor. We built this engine from scratch using bare parts. A LS6 for instance would likely dance the main caps at this horsepower, but if you could live in 850whp…could live easily
We didn’t say they weren’t BSI. We said they were prototypes. If you notice, the 2700 series Race series Turbos, gates, and Bov’s are made in Canada :).
@@SummitRacing prototype would mean they were designed by you guy as a preliminary model. Not stealing their product and going to cheap suppliers. Should give credit when it’s due. If it’s not yours don’t say it’s a prototype. It’s an established businesses product.
I almost done with my 408 stroker. I’m using a lot of y’all’s parts. It has a forged rotating assembly, clevite h series bearings, melling 10295 oil pump, y’all’s 8722R1 cam, btr springs, yella terra rockers, hardened push rods, ported 317’s, Hinson c5r timing chain, billet sprockets, 7 quart pan, Holley hi ram, 88mm turbo, Bosch 220’s 10an line, motion raceworks flex fuel sensor, gmpp 3 bar map, arp top to bottom, 50mm waste gate and bov, 4l80e with tci triple disc, hd2 shift kit with boost valve and servo… I still have quite a bit to add to it before it’s all done and drivable. I have a 1000whp on E. Y’all make building a LS easy as can be ESPECIALLY living close to Arlington!
Sounds pretty close to direction I'm going let me know how the 4l80 likes it
So far I'm dailying my 6.0 4l80e these spring I'm hoping to drop it in 84 Cadillac Fleetwood with some Goodies possibly will do 408 rotating assembly hoping cnc ported stock LS head hold up to abuse as these trick flow costing
How is your build going I'm located in Fort Worth Texas I was going to DM you a message on a build on a Corvette.
Nice Build!
How much does everything cost for the materials used on this?
Absolutely love how you guys put the part numbers in the video!!
Thank you, Cole!
thats so that you know what to buy from them.
To make sure your intake valve is on base circle the best way is to put the push rod on the exhaust lobe of the same cyl. When the pushrod begins to open the intake is on base circle.
Just would like to say thanks for the build why some are not happy with it I’m sure it’s helping more people out so continue to do these builds !!!!!
I agree totally with the comment above, it helped me so continue the good work as i am positive these shows help others also.
Wow😮, I would like that in my 2009 Silverado. I wouldn't have any problem with pulling my Mako boat to the coast. Oh yeah, I am still running the original 5.3 with over 250,000 miles, and no problems with it. I've only replaced number one coil, that's all I've done to that engine!
I went with a single turbo my build gen4 block 413 with 98mm turbo I'm using a turbosmart eboost 2 controller i can have 6 maps for e85 and 98 around town I got all my Aeromotive fuel system from summit and was painless getting it all sent to Australia as I couldn't get anything local that could handle my fuel needs nice to know I can get stuff sent from the USA to Oz without hassles
At what point is more than a 3 bar required?
A better exhaust manifold and a slightly smaller turbo that still makes at least 1000hp but wakes up earlier would be something that i'd prefer for a "street" engine. Doesn't even need to be a 6.0 liter, a shorter stroke paired with a longer connecting rod would be nice for wear and tear especially with a 2618 alloy piston.
These dudes need an energy drink.
How long do you expect this combination to last?
Is there a reason why you don't ceramic coat the I take to reflect hat away and maybe keep a few degrees cooler for the intake air?
What type of transmission would be required for this build nd I kno it's going to be built
Something like this is making a 3500 plus stall but a 4l80E would be awesome.
Most stock cases will take that much horsepower but the internals won't I would start from the torque converter or the flex plate torque converter all the way through the transmission if it's made out of something that doesn't wear out and it's hard I'd replace it with 300 m hope I'm saying that right for more the better quality last longer
I already have a th400 in my 2010 Camaro SS. This would be right up my alley if I was to build a turbo set up.
Black sheep industries waste gate. Really good stuff
I just purchased a Chevy Caprice PPV with the L77 in it. Will these parts work with it and a supercharger?
On push red rod checkers I find nylon tape helps keep them in place
Have u guys got a full list of what was used to build I’m very intrested
Ignore me 🤣
Great work fellas, keep it up.
When finding the right pushrod length, why did you add the .070 to it and how did you come up with that number ? But awesome work !
Its based off the travel of the plunger in the lifter. My LS7 lifters, I measured .200 travel. So I preloaded the lifters at .100 to keep the push rods snug, and it also keeps them from ticking.
Are you guys going to do a run down on price per part and overall cost
This part
Yes, we have a full parts list. The only problem is the entirety of this build was brand new out of the Summit catalog. A person with a wasted 5.3 motor is going to save a TON of money in re-using viable parts that can be re-used to the same effect. Our goal is as to create a recipe for folks to replicate the functional recipe needed to make the power with their own junk-yard parts as needed. Hallelujah
@@SummitRacing why not list it in short and long block configurations?
I do a similar assembly in 416 ci. Would you recommend the same turbo for a 416?
How you know which way trim rods?
did you say 14 degrees of timing? wow plenty left in that motor!
How come you didn’t use the orange rocker arms in the valve cover install it’s stock rockers
Would love to see the same build but with specs for a pro charger etc
What exhaust manifolds are those?
LS POWER BABY!!!!
Thanks for watching George !
What’s the info on the exhaust manifolds?
Who's exhaust manifolds did you use and do you have the part number for it
Thanks for your question, Randall. We’re double checking with our engine builders and will have a part number for you shortly!
@@SummitRacingbeen waiting on this same info for a while. Any update?
Me to
Yeah, what pipes are those? @@SummitRacing
What exhaust manifold or turbo kit is that
Will this build accommodate AC brackets?
I have a 2007 1/2 ton 5.3L LM7 Automatic. 145,000 eratic oil pressure. How much more HP can I throw at it before I have to replace everything else? 50HP? 100HP? LQ4 6L Regular Gas?
An lm7 bone stock is good to about 600hp reliably, but you wont see more than about 320-350 na. Before you do anything you should get your oil pressure up and reliable. Upgraded headers and a new throttle body are easy upgrades to get those numbers up from the stock 290 hp.
@@jtgoodling Thanks. Throttle body upgrade recommendation - 92mm? New oil pump?
What piping and exhaust manifold part number you guys used on the build
Nice work!!
What is the part number of the rocker arms?
What manifolds did you use? you didn't talk about the hotside or cold side or intercooler
Nice video
Summit I want to buy the 5.3 450hp 420 torque lm7 engine. Question is should I buy that one or a 6.0 . I want N/A power for now and then turbo it after. For a 2000 Chevy Tahoe 2wd. It's something different but I'm doing it.
My opinion. Go w the 6.0, for a truck that heavy. It 'll be plenty plus when u want to upgrade, more power& torque for almost same money as 5.3. Smidge more.
@@williamgutwald9953 ok thanks
@@briannutter4656 Right on! Makes sense.
The difference is for a smaller engine like a 5.3, the engine isn’t going to make quite as much odd-boost torque. The turbos are actually a great match for a smaller engine than a 408. They are actually very undersized for a 408.
@@SummitRacing so is the 5.3 450hp 420 torque a good choice for turbo. And also does it really have way more power than a stock 5.3? I think that 5.3 is a cheaper way to go. The 6.0 will cost more to buy build and turbo
Would like to know what Westgate, Exhaust Manifold you guys are using? Also what wire harness you guys also using if you have part numbers I sure would appreciate it.
I would like to know who made the turbo kit
I don’t understand why you won’t sell these kits balanced?
“Summit prototype waste gates” are Black Sheep industries waste gates. BSI gates have a good design.
I hope Summit doesnt China copy them as their own.
Matt, we are working in partnership with BSI to develop and offer the wastegates. As always, we are committed to offering the highest quality parts.
Yes. We don’t copy. We have Integrity. We enter a relationship with folks that makes sense for all.
@@SummitRacing I use Summit branded parts. I have a Pro Ls truck cam now, and bought my first camshaft kit from Summit Racing in ‘97 at 14 years old. I just figured since VS racing got the blow off valve plug, the Canadians should get their BSI plug.
@@anotherbluenova6358 They make quality parts. I’ve run the Summit branded parts for years without a failure. Most everything they have is made in America. If it doesn’t meet the made in America standard then it’s indicated in the catalog.
Where can I buy the headers for a turbo setup
Which rockers did he use
Wow very informative sir
Thanks for watching !
What did that cost in parts
Thank you for your knowledge and video's USA 🇺🇸 USA 🇺🇸 USA parts ONLY
Was that Joel running the dyno?
what was the total cost of the build?
Interesting that you are running the O2 sensors before the turbine housing.
Never enough 02’s.
Do yall sell this short block
They went from putting valve covers on to dyno test with twin turbos.
What turbo kit?
Nice
Thanks
Why a stroker?
What fuel did you use
I have the same parts in my lq4 same crank rods pistons and cam and snake eater 1000 injectors on terminator X max ECU same intake and throttlebody with stock 862 heads with twin vs racing 66/73 turbos in a 84 z28 Camaro
We ran C-16, because it makes detonation a non-issue, but E-85 would likely make greater power. Fuel flow with bigger injectors and pump/pumps may be a cheaper alternative.
how much does all that stuff cost
Good content. Why did .070 have to be added to the final pushrod length. That 70 thousandths was accounting for what?
Lifter pre load I was thinking it accounted
For
@@dee9117 I usually see .050 for preload so I'm sure that's what the .070 was for.
I'd like to know as well, since there was no information about how what the number was based on, and the utility of it??
@@jneff1009 I as well. Is .070" a general number for hydraulic lifters or something specific to the LS.
I Think they need to explain that a bit
Did you dyno it N/A? I'm curious the engine made on it's own.
I'd say it's pretty safe to assume 550-650hp if it's like most any other one. You gotta remember it'll be down on compression and won't have an optimum camshaft in it to squeeze every last N/A horse pressure out of it and mid range won't be real strong with that intake.. I've seen a few make a little less and a few make a good bit more but this is where a lot of them end up. I'd probably put this one on the upper portion of that range due to the cylinder head that's on it and I'd add 30-40hp to it if it was a 6.2l with a rectangle port on it.
What rocker did you use do you have the part number
CSP-SLS17
@@peeweemiller6462 thank u
Actually, as long as you are running a powdered-metal guide, the factory rockers and Pro Ls cams are designed to work with each other at .625 lift and below. It’s the lightest rocker at the valve and allows several hundred r rpm more with greater reliability than aftermarket roller rockers etc. a Trunnion kit is advised if the rockers have over 50l mileage on them.
I think when I got my cam it was 575/600 lift with 232/234 duration with 115 Lobe separation. I know you guys have changed the cam grind on the turbo stage 3 cam 2 times.or is it three time ?
I’m curious about what these “inexpensive, off the shelf parts” add up to. 🤔
15k
That’s the conundrum. When we built this engine without a core to begin with, it was expensive because every little bracket and sensor needed to be accounted for. When you take your core plus the required Pro Ls and other components, it becomes way way less. A full list is upcoming.
@@SummitRacing you can't tell idiots nothing.
He stated the whole damn build was FROM SCRATCH WITH EVERY PART ORDERED FROM SUMMIT CATALOGUE, FOR A 1000 HORSEPOWER BUILD.
Obviously the point of the build , is to be illustrate summit has EVERY PART NEEDED FOR A BUILD LIKE THIS AND ALSO TO SHOW YOU DONT HAVE TO BUY THE MOST EXPENSIVE PART AVAILABLE.
there's a whole damn list of parts you could reuse if you had a DONOR ENGINE OR ONE FROM A JUNK YARD. They had to buy every bracket and screw..ALL OF IT.
So obviously THE PRICE WONT REFLECT WHAT YOU WOULD SPEND IN YOUR UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES.
Now do the same thing with bigger turbos or switch to a turbo with larger hot side.. That glowing red is from too much back pressure.
24 degrees at 27 PSI is light timing!
What about an n/a 6.0/408 that would drop in to a 4th gen. F- body?
500-600 hp tops with no power adders.
So the question is, how much did that build cost
What manifolds/piping are you using? Is it all custom or is that a kit that I can purchase from you guys?
Are you talking exhaust? Which specific parts are you talking about? “Manifolds/piping” is pretty vague.
@@BGCoop79 based on the video context, exhaust manifold and turbo piping. The intake manifold was already mentioned in the vid, so exhaust manifold is what's obviously being referred to by the comment.
Summit has a LS pro manifold set. You either buy one or the set. They’re a little pricey, but is an excellent product. My 408 is built using mostly summit ls pro parts.
Summit has a LS pro manifold set. You either buy one or the set. They’re a little pricey, but is an excellent product. My 408 is built using mostly summit ls pro parts.
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What oil you using in that engine?
The Summit 10w-30 oil isn’t made for catalytic converters but IS made for phenomenal lubrication. Made for us by the #1 Refinery.
Put that engine in my 2001 740i
Absolutely, I would love to know what this build cost, I'm thinking a 2001 corvette, and let's do some autocross.
We have a full recipe and you will likely have huge savings if you have a donor. We built this engine from scratch using bare parts. A LS6 for instance would likely dance the main caps at this horsepower, but if you could live in 850whp…could live easily
@@SummitRacing would be an ls1 in 2001. Yeah I know not any difference as far as main caps but not all people know that.
Yup and then the 4.8L can get 1000 HP on SBE.
Very little reliability though
A 2.4 liter can get to 1000hp, it's all about boost and engine service life.
Pag nanalo ko Ng luto Gawin ko service ko yan
Pump gas??
Thanks for watching! Yes, this will run on pump gas.
1200hp really good street engine 😂😂😂
Those aren't summit wastegates they are black sheep industries. Damn get it right
We didn’t say they weren’t BSI. We said they were prototypes. If you notice, the 2700 series Race series Turbos, gates, and Bov’s are made in Canada :).
@@SummitRacing prototype would mean they were designed by you guy as a preliminary model. Not stealing their product and going to cheap suppliers. Should give credit when it’s due. If it’s not yours don’t say it’s a prototype. It’s an established businesses product.
😊😅😊😊
"Very affordable" these people obviously don't live in the real world. Where I live maybe 5% could purchase all this. Again I said maybe.
America 🇺🇸💪🏼🤙🏼🔧🔩
Those are black sheep industries wastegates not summit protype wastegates.
Perhaps! Made in Canada by a Super-duper manufacturer for Summit Racing
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Just about anyone can make 1000hp using turbos FFS!! That's not a challenge, that's a waste of time!!
Junk!
We don't like electric motors
Those are junk
I'm sorry, I didn't see your momma nowhere in the video
MOOK!
LMAO at all the armchair experts commenting 🙄
Great video!!!! would love to get a parts list for a L92 build with all summit parts .@summitracing