Who Were The Executives At The Vault Tec Meeting?
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- Опубликовано: 21 май 2024
- Join us as we delve into the mysterious meeting of the Vault Tec executives in Fallout lore. Learn about the key players and their roles at Big M.T, Repconn, and Westtek. #fallout #fallouttvshow #VaultTec #BigMT #Repconn #Westtek
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It would make so much sense if Big MT president is Frederick Sinclair SENIOR. That would explain his appearance differences from Fallout Dead Money to Fallout Prime.
Just assumed as we don't actually see Sinclair except on some mosaic that its meant to represent him from his younger days, this is him just not long before the bombs feel as an old man obsessed with a young starlet (assuming Vera was meant to be young too).
@@JounLord1 thats what I assumed as well
@@JounLord1 that or ego if you think about it powerful people want to be remembered as the young powerful beautiful man or woman not the old fart
His mosaic is just a representation of how he views himself. Him being an old man obsessed with a young starlet makes sense as to how he wants to view himself.
I mean if you are rich enough to fund scientifically ground breaking project I would think you can pay an Artist to make yourself look better in a Painting.
I think the reason Poseidon is not present is down to two reasons.
1 they are already instrumental in enclave operations.
2 there is a lot of bad blood between them and vt, seeing as vt made fusion proprietary tech, and thus becoming a major competitor.
They might both be part of the enclave, but there is still a potential for infighting.
wrong, they are not here because the writters never played fallout 1 or 2
@@jonar3162 A bunch of references to Fallout 1 and 2, clearly means they never played it. Bet you are one of those people who think Fallout 4 erased New Vegas from canon because it had "no" references even though it did.
@@jonar3162Wrong one of the writers Graham Wagner is a huge Fallout fan and has played all the games. Even saying in an interview he replayed the entire series twice before getting down to writing the show.
Don’t even want to play fallout 1 and 2 just to piss off the gatekeepers. I’m happy having clocked 400 hours in Fallout 4.
I just assumed they have these meetings in a controlled setting. You invite 5/6 companies at a time. That way information security can be handled in a better manner. You know where to look if you got a leak. Because fallout would have more than just 5 or 6 companies. That’s some of the logic I use to explain new or different power armors. Some different company is making X or Y item.
1:46 the House always wins.
I like to think Sinclair bought his way onto Big MTs board of directors, and that's how he weasled his way into this meeting as their rep.
I always looked at Big MT as it's own thing (thought it was a government funded think-tank), and Sinclair (dumping his money into a casino/resort to double as a giant shelter for everyone, but primarily himself,) effectively paid Big MT to unknowingly turn his shelter into their own experiment (red cloud, faulty protective suits, saturnite tools/utensils, automated medical machines, machines to turn those special coins into anything).
Still, I love how House gives them to give their plans away, while showcasing none of his own. He knows what they want to do, none of them know that he's:
Working on an army of robots
Sitting on a defense grid capable of tracking and destroying ICBM's
Working on a chip, soon to be completed, that will advance systems in both the robots and the missile defense grid
Working on brain scans of his favorite people, to go along with the life extending technology he's building in the Lucky-38
Would explain how he had so little money by the time the madre was to be opened
I like to think the writers made a blunder, and simply assigned the position to whomever was named and had a relation with Big MT. A new character ought to have been invented, some military science director in charge of the Big MT program.
@@novat9731 nah it fills out more of Sinclair's background he bought his way onto the board and now he's seeing if he might be able to siphon off some vault engineers for his own secret vault under the madre
I mean that is how a board of directors works
Typically it was based on who has the most shares
I think the shadowy figure Barb saw from above was Stanislaus Braun.
Thought it was Eckhart, President of the Enclave at the time.
@@victorochoa3662the president from fallout 2?
@@noahdean9685 that’s Tricky Dick jr.
@@noahdean9685 that would be dick richardson, if i recall correctly
@@noahdean9685 no thats richardson
While they're not a corporation, I could see them having had someone representing the US military. It would explain some of the vaults like 34 and 75
They were discussing dropping nukes to Jumpstart a war, sounds like the kind of thing you don't invite the army to discuss
Yeah but these are defense contractors, so in a sense they’re “supposed” to be representing the military.
A representative of the Nuka cola company should of appeared at the meeting even though it wouldn’t had made that much sense 😂
That would have made for a “jarring” cameo.
Unless Nuka-Cola has shares in most, if not all these companies, which would be plausible in a world like Fallout.
@@ShaDHP23 nah by the time the show took place he's already pickled under Nuka World. Nuka Cola is also the one under contract from the government for their chemists instead of the other way around. I feel like although Nuka Cola is massive, they're still far behind the defense industry
With project cobalt and the safari adventure cloning facility I think it would have made more sense than you think
It would be funny if after the “we drop the bombs” line a nuka cola representative says we can use our quantum nukes
It makes no sense that Frederick is charge of big Mt. He had contact deals with them. The think tank should be in charge
I think they were Main researchers but nothing else
@@masterxk it's actually made pretty clear in Dead Money and Old World Blues that Sinclair was nothing more than their client
Yea but people are gonna come up with all kinds of ridiculous excuses to defend it.
It could also be that Sinclair cut ties with Big MT later on to focus on the Sierra Madre, but his contacts at Big MT were necessary in acquiring the many advanced technologies that stumped even Elijah.
However, being a former coworker obviously wouldn't stop Klein and company from using his casino as a testing ground behind Mobius's back.
@@Werewolf_Korra that was actually part of the deal that Sinclair made with Big MT. In return for providing him the technology, Sierra Madre would serve as proving grounds.
Mosiac aside (self-commisioned, remember), this is how I always envisioned him looking.
I don't think vault-tec ended up dropping the bomb I think they were just discussing it as a plan because why would Barb let it be dropped when her daughter isn't in the safety of a vault
Yeah her daughter being outside a vault when it happened I think demonstrates that it wasn't Vault Tech who dropped the bomb. Like they would've eventually but essentially did by keeping the war going which resulted in either the US government or China launching nukes first
If they are willing to destroy the world for profit, why would she actually care for her daughter? To me, it’s a strange plot point, it makes zero sense to destroy the world for profit. Unless rich people suddenly stop caring about their yachts, planes and real estate
@@shamicentertainment1262who knows, maybe the bombing come out early than expected
I mean, they literally say it ISNT for profit. It's to win capitalism. To OUTLIVE the rest, not out compete. Vault Techs goal was to rebuild society in their way, and in turn, become more powerful than they ever were in the prewar. They want to drop the bombs so they can control everything that happens after, not to profit from it, though total power is worth more than any sum of caps.
@@shamicentertainment1262 Making it about profit was stupid. The games always implied that this elite had their own visions for creating a new world in their image, which makes much more sense from a justification standpoint.
I would have liked to see pulowski representatives being portrayed in the series. It would have served to stablish who they were as a competitor to Vault tech, and turning into a group of white collar scammers after all the bombs were dropped.
Saying that pulowsky was a competitor of vault-tec is like saying a lemonade stand is a competitor to coca cola company
@@senorbolainas2991 they are competitors in who screw everyone the most! That’s why…
Pulowski were small time compared to vault Tec
@@dazzaMusic yeah….nevertheless still critical in screwing people in the fallout universe.
I think being a competitor would be a large reason as to why vault tec didn't invite them. Why would they cut them in?
Was hoping the shady figures in the background of the seen were actually Poseidon Energy, however I know the show runners would likely chalk it up to Vault Tec Corporate.
Loved the video by the way. Your editing and research is impeccable.
I think that would be a very, very stupid move by the showrunners. In all likelihood it is the Enclave watching.
@@KaiserNicer I think so too, but so far they want Vault Tec to be the big bad guy this far.
@@alcatrazthatguyontheintern1465I think at this point The Enclave and Vault Tec are just about one and the same with the goal of rebuilding America per their standards. Only major change come the series is Vault Tec's the one fully behind the wheel as the Enclave is trying to rebuild to a point of influence. Though I would not be surprised if Season 2 concludes with Lucy, Max and the Ghoul facing off against Enclave Kill-Teams sent to recover the Cold Fusion tech/deal with Lucy after Hank failed to do so.
@@alcatrazthatguyontheintern1465 They've already acknowledged the Enclave as being a thing in episode 2, so I 100% think whoever Barb was looking at was one of them. Assuming the show intends to keep going back to the pre-war world, they'll probably keep adding more layers to all of the corporate and governmental chicanery that ultimately led to the bombs.
@@alcatrazthatguyontheintern1465 I bet they're just making up VT to be the big bad in season 1 to mislead us, then they'd make them look pathetic against the real villains in Enclave in season 2
I'd have loved if there were Richard Dunwich at the meeting. Ug-Qualtoth IA IÄ
I think House probably still declined the back door merger. He already had vault tec in his pocket from the Pip Boy and his whole Platinum Chip plan, he didn't need a vault.
If House did end up being given some vaults, I'd imagine his vaults were all of the social experiment focused vaults. Ones where the experiment was a change to the societal structure and nothing else.
@@carumsarene I mean, I could see Vault 21 being his design as he clearly loves Vegas.
@@Werewolf_Korra oh 100% it's his vault.
Just because they would drop a bomb did not mean they did drop a bomb or even could drop a bomb.
They almost certainly can , but I agree that it's possible someone beat them to it
We've had multiple theories at this point. China, Vault-Tec, the Xetans.
I always assumed the US struck first because that's just how the Fallout world works. In this timeline, the US has become a fascist state that'd make Mussolini blush.
There's been hints throughout almost every single game that Vault-Tec had some hand in it. It was never 100% confirmed until now. For example, some nukes throughout the game series have Vault-Tec logos on them.
@@carumsarene oh my fucking god
that Megaton nuke isn't a Vault-Tec bomb. that's an old myth, if you look at it the logo's different.
Bombs from Ghoul's backstory scene (when he run on horse with his daughter) were definitely detonated on ground/low deep underground as they formed clouds without flash of light. So i think it is possible - at least in the show's headcanon - that VT really droped first bombs
Was the Think Tank already uploaded to machines yet? Is that why they had Fred, their biggest client, represent them at a live meeting?
Would you trust Klein to behave himself in this kind of meeting? Hell, even if it was just O as a representative, he'd be red faced and frothing at the mouth the whole time...
Sinclair! SINCLAIR!
People complain about Sinclair, but I just assume that's a difference between what he actually looks like and what the artists working for him made him look like. "you like this one Mr. Sinclair?" "why it looks just like me!"
Moc bych ocenil, kdyby občas ve videu byl plánek kde se ty věci nachází na mapě a v jaké hloubce. Vždy když přemýšlím o metru, tak mě strašně zajímá, jaknto vypadá na mapě. Pral bych si aby existovala 3d mapa Prahy včetně podzemí
i think they hit spot on with House
It would have been cool to see the people who ran cambridge polymer labs and arc jet at the meetings Because they had defense contracts with the military and they were working on military and government projects when the bombs fell
With the mysterious figure overseeing the meeting what if thats the president that was missing that later becomes the president of the enclave John Henry Eden.
That cannot be Sincair, it can't be.
The producers have repeatedly said that Vault Tec may not have started the war, it is left as a question mark and this scene may not even be real in the universe, the implication is that China launched the first bombs, but it could just as easily have been the Enclave.
I hope they adapt Derek Greenway from the canceled Fallout Van Buren into this, that scene would be perfect for him.
Did Nuka Cola not have a nuka world vault? Why weren’t they there?
The thing at Nuka-World wasn't a Vault, but more of a fake one designed to sell vaults and test hallucinogens. They were already working with the government in project Cobalt, and they had a contract with Vault-Tec to supply the vaults and promote them in Nuka-World; but there's no knowledge of Bradberton building a vault for the Nuka-Cola company.
John Caleb Bradberton dealt directly with the US government, and probably was already in his little jar by the time of the meeting.
I thought Plasma weapons were reverse engineered alien blaster from the enclave ?
Why is plasma in fallout 1 then?
It gets weird as plasma "weapons" existed for quite some time as industrial tools (Plasma Caster is the example of that) and different games have some conflicting information.
@@woddlyoats Because there is an alien blaster in Fallout 1
The alien blaster can be found in the "Alien Ship" special encounter.
The original plasma rifle/plasma caster was made by Winchester. Poseidon Energy worked on the replacement and current iteration of plasma weapons under Project SEMELE, with clever backroom outsourcing to REPCONN, and to an extent, RobCo. The resulting prototype scheduled to be delivered back into Poseidon Energy hands by the REPCONN rep here happened to fall on the October 23rd. Every party present had plans to stage nuclear Armageddon, but the facade was coming down and a certain US Army Officer's rebellion the week leading up to the 23rd made clear it was now or never to drop the bombs from the manned and unmanned platforms; the Chinese subs were meanwhile waiting for the word to hit confirmed sites of FEV research launched missiles at their targets. Selectively, as the Yangtze still possessed a handful of missiles for use.
Caleb Bradberton of nuka cola
if i am not mistaken ulysses does appear in episode 2
Where
The Heros of Old and New America.
That is not Fredrick Sinclair
Really doesn't look like him but it is meant to be, the credits and show notes confirm it
Robert House also refers to him as 'Freddie boy'.
Given that the Sinclair we see in game is a skeleton, we can't really say.
Being mad because Sinclair is old and fat is like being mad Hugh Jackman is too tall for Wolverine.
We never see Frederick Sinclair in fallout new Vegas
@@woddlyoats Very true. We only see a painting/mural of him at the Sierra Madre I believe which does show him as a slimmer man with brown hair. Maybe Sinclair once looked like that and wanted his painting/mural to reflect how he used to look or maybe he never looked like that and wanted the painting/mural was how he wanted to be seen.
There is also some dispute as to why Sinclair is representing Big Mt at the meeting but my understanding was that he was a majority shareholder/owner of Big Mt as mentioned by Mr House in Fallout New Vegas which would explain why he was representing Big Mt at the meeting.
HalluciGen maybe
The Chinese dropped the bomb, but you can't sell the show in China if that were the case in the show.
China still did drop The bomb.
I always said that it was the Aliens that started it by "energy beaming" san francisco :P
If I play the video at 1.25% speed you almost sound normal.
Lmao ik as a adhd this monotone slow voice is nails on board
Skill issue
Doesnt matter the show obviously isnt canon to the games
But it is canon
@@xlander5495 two seperate universes so no
@@Cosmicshambler It's canon todd Howard said so
@@DominatorElite4yep. Agreed. TH said the show takes place few years after the events of New Vegas
What about General Atomics?