ADU stucco/ Brown Coat/How to/learn to DIY For beginner to intermediate Plasterers. Let's have fun
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2021
- In this episode I give a demonstration on how to use a cheater also known as a boogie board, chilelē, go fast, go devil, Liberace, 1/8th of a stop sign. I use a cheater to lesson the damage to my arms and share the discomfort with my back. Im dispersing the pain in my body more evenly.
Ask if you have any questions or suggestions on how to do this better. As many of you know I am a seasoned plasterer, lathing and plaster contractor since 1991. In the early days it was much different than it is today. Seems many things are different that they were yesteryear. Let me give you a few examples.
For one, a hod carrier is called a hod carrier because he's was the one who would carry an aluminum built v shaped bucket on his shoulders up a ladder to the brick layers or plasterers above. Today the hod is a thing of the past. Fast forward a few years. Home Depot and the Homer bucket. wallah the new way to carry mud up a ladder. Yet the bucket is much harder to carry, go figure. I guess the production line on hods fell to new lows over the years. Now new hoodies don't really even know what a hod is. Nor will you see brown stucco when we do the brown coat.
A second example is the use of furring nails. Long long ago our wire was made flat, much like chicken wire. Until the invention of self furred wire and pneumatic nail guns and 7/8" staples, lathers had to use what's called furred nails to space the wire away from the wall so mud could be squeezed behind wire lath. Today wire comes self furred and days of the furring nail are all but gone.
A third example of change over the years is what I believe holds true too many plasterers but not all is the interest of the beauty of conventional stucco. Now granted acrylic stucco will expand and contract with the system and inhibit extensive cracking. Acrylic is also a beautiful finish. When acrylic dries after its initial application it can be a beautiful wall. In fact it is so pretty that you would almost think it was painted. Acrylic stucco comes in any color of the spectrum and can be matched to specifications within 90% of its sample color. this is something that is hard to achieve with conventional stucco. What is the drawback and I bet you are saying to yourself what is Ken trying to say here. Well here it is guys. This is what I think about acrylics. All that I have written above plus this. However there is an even keel when it comes to cost. Because regular (conventional stucco cracks and some people are adamant that stucco isn't supposed to crack. Well these people are just misinformed. You see, stucco is supposed to crack. Its just not supposed to burn, it insulates well and the termites won't eat it. It goes the same for acrylics yes. But here is the thing. Regular conventional stucco is under rated. Once you truly understand art, and I will add that it doesn't take much to learn art, it's the yearning for art that will define who you are and tell you what you want to see. Acrylics are flat, no character, in fact it looks like it was painted on. Whereas regular stucco is natural. regular stucco comes from the earth and so do its colors. Not like acrylic who's colors are made in a factory in St Louis. They are both beautiful finish cladding for residential and commercial applications. The choice is yours. Which would you rather have on your dream home? Acrylic stucco? or Conventional stucco?
You can't learn to plaster in a day, but we hope you can.
Happy Plastering!!! 
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done a fair share of stucco and yes very physical trade!.....no gym membership needed, lol.......sleep like a baby everynight
This guy has great techniques clean my opinion better plasterer than than Kirk swimming pool trowel Gioradano
Love the vids and the playful jab at Kirk . It’s cool to see tradesmen give one another props. I love your humbleness also . I’m a plumber and I’m the same way Im really good at my trade , but I know im not the best ever and I always listen to other guys cause you never know when you’ll learn something new .
Hi Tom, thanks for checking out my vids. You sound like a pretty cool cat. I love to plumb ( if everything is easy). Lol. It is cool that tradesman get along.
I appreciate the kind comments.
Hi Ken your one heck of a worker and your videos are educational and fun to watch. Thank you. More Tumeric for that Bursitis will help.
I've got that same Darby. Seeing that makes me want to do a little plastering job. Problem is I'm getting kind of old to be doing shit like that unless I had a reliable guy to mix and tote.
No I here ya. Thanks for sharing. Is the Darby you have a ridgeless edge?
@@AbersonPlastering yup. I live in s Florida so opening up the stucco isn't often needed.
Right to left scratch and brown finish and interior thinwall eft to right your correct
Thank you for the clarification
Yes Ken, but Kurt more than makes up for it with his hawk spinning talent.
As for where to start, he is apt to start anywhere and everywhere at the same time. lol
As for starting from the heel or point of the trowel, i was a lefty, and i never worked with another lefty.
And that was quite often an issue.
Besides that i was always younger than the others i worked with.
So i always got a raft full of you know what over how i worked.
I used to say you start wherever you want, and i will try my best not to get in your way.
And when i get my half done ill help you with your half. lol
Most of our work back then was interior plastering.
Brown coat, and white coat over rock lath.
Most guys preferred doing the brown coat, and some of the larger companies had brown coat crews and white coat crews.
I actually preferred doing the white coat, but since we were a small company we did both.
Only the block houses got the exterior done as well for the most part.
But on some occasions we did wire over frame as well.
Our lathers were paid fifty cents per bundle to install the rocklath back in the 50s.
And that included doing the beads and cornerites in the angles.
You had to watch that they didnt bury a few bundles someplace. lol
A 100# bag of gypsum was a buck a bag, and the finish lime was fifty cents a bag.
An F6 Ford dump truck full of sand was 20 bucks delivered to the job.
We used two large mortar boxes for mixing the brown coat.
About a 3’ space between them and both up off the ground on cinder blocks.
They would hold 4 bags of gypsum with an average of 13 shovels of sand per bag.
There would be a hod stand at the end of the boxes.
Usually nailed together using short scaffold planks.
The laboror or hod carrier was actually the key for the whole crew.
A good laboror was worth as much as the plasterers were as for wages.
We almost never waited for mud, there was always a mortar board stocked up and waiting somewhere, and we rarely touched a scaffold plank.
An average day for the brown coat with a good laboror and 2 plasterers was 20 bags per day.
When we got that done we went home, regardless of the time.
As a rule it would be between 3 and 330 in the afternoon.
Mind you if we could finish the job that day by working a bit longer we were expected to do that.
Of coarse there were no breaks, and not even much of a lunch break, preferring to get it done and go home early.
Hi Ernie. Very interesting. I bet guys would complain about the prices then too. I know I’m crying about the prices now. Spent 50.00 for a new Marshalltown hall that lasted about a month
They just don’t make them like they used too. But being made out of wood is going’s little too far back in time 😅
@@AbersonPlastering I dont even know what a hall is Ken. lol
I always thought the were those long narrow places used to connect various rooms.
But i am aware of Marshaltown tools.
My choice was the 11.5 inch with the camal back handle. lol
We used the new one for just brown coat and base coat stucco.
When they got worn down a bit we then just used them for the white finish coat.
If they got a small knick we just filed it out.
I never saw anybody spin a hawk untill the internet.
But no doubt some did.
I commented on your porch ceiling video as well.
I have used the densglass, but on some frame walls inside my garage.
I also have used Dryvit, again as a finish coat on my own house.
Block walls, scratch coat and second coat with regular sand mortar, finish was the fine finish Dryvit.
Started with the Dryvit on small areas, had trouble with the plastic float at first, even did the first section over due to it setting up before i got a nice finish on it.
I like the look of it, but didnt like working with it.
Nice video
Good skills!!!
Thank you Elmer! Keep on keeping on
I like your entro---
Thanks Tom. Did you see the outro?
Your right that is about the size of Kirk's trowel 😂🤣
Lol
You mean Kirk’s, not Kirks? Do all the tools have a male/female persona? 😃 You don’t sleep well because years of breathing silica and other toxins are beyond the tolerance of an ageing body in particular. Being in medicine, I have a tip for you to investigate: ionic foot bath equipment which you can purchase on Amazon for under 200 bucks, we tell our patients to do 3 days of 20 or 40 minutes and 4 days of rest. If you request a brand rec, comment with your email. No charge of course! There are other tips but can’t personalise anything at all on social media. We are in musculoskeletal medicine so the other point I would make to you is that poor body mechanics does not strengthen the musculoskeletal for anyone, including the muscle bound guys you see weight lifting in the gym by bending at 90 degrees to pick up a weight on the floor. Anyhow I subbed because you enjoy your work and have good tips of your own. Cheers.
Thank you for correcting my poor penmanship. Interesting to note the reason I struggle with breathing at night. Truth be told, I can only get to sleep by holding my nasals open to breath better. But trying to fall asleep on my side kills my shoulder. Nice tips. Thanks for sharing.
@@AbersonPlastering yep, we treat shoulders effectively without surgery.
Is it normal for the brown coat to crack after days.
Hi Junior, an excellent question with so many answers. First response is yes, count on cracks appearing the sixth day. I don’t know why, it just does. There are sometimes lathing issues like wire not overlapping wire and stuff like that contribute to cracks as well as plywood not being spaced correctly. But read on…. The lath that we use today has a problem. It’s smoot on the top and bottom of the roll. If you don’t want cracks then you can try many different applications and experiment. Ceilings will always crack even when acrylic finish is used. And I’ll tell you why. It’s because the edges of the hi Rob lath are smooth. Just expect the cracks then use acrylic finish which will expand and bridge many cracks and you’ll look like a king. Good luck
Excellent advice your work thought me many things. Still trying to practice how u work with hawk and trowel
Are you using plastic cementM
Yes. Riverside