The Unfortunate Truth of Minecraft's #1 Texture Pack
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- The Minecraft Texture / Resource Pack known as "Faithful" was stolen from Vattic, it's original owner, and resold onto the Minecraft Marketplace without Vattic's permission... for 3 years.
AntVenom Links
» beacons.ai/Ant...
Vattic's Twitter
» / vattic
== RESOURCE PACKS ==
FaithfulVenom Resource Pack
» antvenom.com/f...
Compliance Resource Pack
» faithfulpack.net
Emulated Vattic Resource Pack
» github.com/cla...
Mullak99's Faithful Resource Pack
» www.curseforge...
== SPECIAL THANKS ==
» Evorp
» FHLX
» Harag0n
» JogurciQ
» Juknum
» mullak99
» Ninventoo
» PeJohn
» Pomi
» Robert
» Sei
» Vattic
Co-Writer
» Furx
MUSIC
» Epidemic Sound
(Tracker, Decision Through Vision, Rethinker, Awaken the Immortals, No Stone Unturned, Soaring)
Thank you for making this video and getting the word out! Also many thanks to the community
WE LOVE YOU VATTIC
its him :o
Your the best vattic
im amazed i was first like and comment
Congrats man
Wow, this was some insane Minecraft journalism. Never would have thought the texture pack was technically stolen. Kind of scary how easy it was for those logs to be faked and accepted. 10/10 video
Wow got 1st reply
i am second
is that good
Yeah fr tho
@@neetubansal9789 10
I also never thought about it.
As somebody who has used Faithful for so many years now, I am really saddened to hear about all of this. But on a brighter note, I'm happy to use the Compliance pack since it's gotten Vattic's approval.
Yeetus
I use compliance since i bought java and didn't even know it was related to faithful lmao
Compliance even has a Bedrock port and it's completely free unlike Faithful
Same
didn’t expect to see you here, Daniel T.
Ladies and Gents: FHLX here. I just wanted to say that as of 12/29/2021, the Emulated Vattic team has completed a renaming process to be now referred to as the Classic Faithful Team. All logos, repositories, listings, and packs have been re-named to Classic Faithful. This will be our new name moving forward and should be much more recognizable than our previous name. Thanks everyone that sees this.
Ayyy, Congrats!
congrats ! glad to know what to actually support now
epic
hello fhlx :)
nice
when vizzy said "no democracy" and basically went on a power trip, I instantly got vibes of wheatley from portal 2
At least Wheatley was genuinely sorry when he was stripped of his power.
@@silverboltscrapper yep
Lol
People: *Democracy*
Vizzy: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO DEMOCRACY! ONLY ME! ONLY VIZZY! BANS FOR ALL! "MY" WORK WILL LIVE ON! I OWN THIS PACK! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I bet he was Stalin all along because he is Russian.
Vizzy: Oh, I thought you were dead.
Vattic: My death was... greatly exaggerated.
So, you’re the punk I’ve heard about!
@Naisan Sama /Breaker LOOOL
@Naisan Sama /Breaker 💀
@Naisan Sama /Breaker WOT!!🤣🤣🤣
@Naisan Sama /Breaker metroman rips a fat one
I never knew that there could be much story behind a texture pack. Things like this really makes you want to think what’s really going on behind the scenes of other things.
There's a story to everything, however people usually don't look or care for it
"Welcome to the internet"
-Bo Burnham
The world is much more interesting than people sometimes think. You'll find a lot if you don't judge things too fast.
its all about money bruh
@@sparkyphantom92 Greed man. It’s all about the greed.
Never knew my favorite pack has this much history to it.
Time to well, face the truth
Same, cat.
Thanks for this great video! It's good when more people learn what's going on with Faithful
That's why you stopped making videos about faithful right
@@varunagrawal7036 probably
@@varunagrawal7036 YuS
Let's not talk about the ideas and mechanics from free mods Notch stole without permission or crediting the original authors and then selling them as apart of the game.
@@elroy462 yes exactly let's not. This topic is essentially pointless, genuinely nobody cares except maybe you.
If I ever had to buy skins or texture packs on the Java Edition, I would commit nether sleep
stolen comment from yourself
B R U H
don’t do it
how to ruin a game 101
true lmao
Damn, I knew something was off when I first saw faithful on the minecraft store. Vattic was not mentioned even once but I was under the impression that he gave permission to these guys to continue the project. Turns out that one person claimed ownership without the permission from Vaticc and even made money from it. I appreciate him trying to continue Faithful but trying to take it as his own, proffiting and even lying about it is downright shameful. I will no longer support his, but will look for alternative Faithful packs instead.
Huge props to Antvenom and the team in making this expose possible.
I saw it for sale before I had access to the greater web and thought "Well that's the world famous texture pack! (cause I still had some web access) Must be worth the price."
I didn't buy it because I don't spend money on the internet but I sure would've
thanks
@@xYOSIYAx And to think microsoft didn't even need the word from the original creator of a lot of those textures to allow this to happen. They're partially to blame too, to be honest.
depixel is a great alternative
yeyeye good practice now tell the teacher just like that
11:00 I really appreciate you highlighting the names of these founders. Villains don't deserve infamy, but heroes deserve fame!
im one of them :)
@@GreatName707 Prove it, rigourously
@@GreatName707 that is not rigorous, nor does it prove anything for your case
@@GreatName707 Attention seeker
@@GreatName707 i'll reroute the subject here, but my point is that you should not get mindlessly overhyped and feel the need to seek attention by openly declaring that you were mentioned in a video. put simply, it's not needed and people will put now unnecessary skepticism on you, and will tell you to prove it.
anyways, have a good day
*Note:* xMrVizzy has changed his name to Kraineff! So if you don't want to further support Vizzy, don't support Kraineff!
I believe it's his surname but with V replaced by FF
Ant says this in right in the beginning of the video but thanks for telling us again either way
yeah he changed it as we were making the video which just made it a pain
@@BlackDragonDCR Ant mainly calls him Vizzy as that's what he has gone by for years, but now his Vizzy username is gone from every Faithful related site/post he has and officially changed to Kraineff or his real name.
@@3vorp you guys still did a great job on reaching out to the truth, very well done
Hopefully legal action is taken and he can acquire the rights to sell his own texture pack on the marketplace.
What rights, The Vizzy never had them to begin with so theres nothing to aquire
He should also get the regain HIS profits from the pack !
That dude stole so much money unfaithfully
I don't think he wants it sold on the marketplace tbh, seems like the guy has had a tough personal life and just needs a break but doesn't want his work stolen for another person's profits.
i think if the pack is free on one platform it should be free on the other
quite honestly id buy it out of courtesy and respect
When vattic returned it felt like when the main character disappear’s then returns even stronger with a new power up
Disappears and reappears 12 seasons later to have a speech about his tretcherous journey
@@ranger-o2u only to find out that their new leader was apparently the villain this whole time
@@rubyrules2 and then everyone died
"when we needed him the most, he appeared"
- from avatar or something idk
cookiezi moment
I knew a moderator on faithful and he told me he was always suspicious of Vizzy. He never gave proof that he had permission to update the pack and I'm very happy that he got caught. I hope legal action is taken against him for these last couple years.
Defo no legal action, even though it’s stupid I don’t think it should ruin his life
@@Deltaexe190 He literally stole intellectual propriety.
@@GumSkyloard it’s a Minecraft texture pack. It’s mean but it’s not worth ruining his life
@@doc6678 this comment is slightly unclear
@@omegamad Or your vision is slightly unclear.
I just realized this isn't just on Vizzy either, it's on the people running the Minecraft store, how the hell did they accept the *fake* faithful pack without even properly checking the intellectual rights? Disgusting lack of effort.
You will find a lot of texture packs on there are stolen
More likely they don't bother to. It's malicious compliance to pack the store with packs ASAP
anything for money.
It’s just like how we don’t read the terms and service and just press accept
It's like NFTs and how a lot of them are stolen art XD
About the minecraft marketplace section, it is sadly notoriously known (at least in the modded scene) for often completely enabling people to profit off work or ideas that are not theirs and never done with permission from the original creators of said projects while microsoft, mojang or whoever the team handling the marketplace side are, typically do absolutely nothing about it
This was obvious the moment the Marketplace was announced.
A friend that is doing marketplace textures told me how she takes skins from namemc, merges them together, and sells for thousands of dollars without stress.
Without going into much detail, the marketplace degenerated severely as more and more "profit before ethics" teams popped on.
Edit: Wanted to mention that Mojang does care about this but they are powerless since this is a community wide trend
@@StefanDeleanu The multi-billion dollar corporation is powerless to control what goes on their digital store front? With all due respect, that's ridiculous. It's more than possible for them to more strictly scrutinize what goes on the Marketplace. They just don't care because they get a cut of the profits as well.
@@StefanDeleanu Powerless? All it would take the Marketplace team would be to not greenlight hot garbage onto the store.
@@lancelikessause they can't scan the whole internet for free textures or skins and make sure thst skins or textures are original.
They can ban direct copies, but if you just put a smart filter on top of it most times it will be enough to trick that.
Also, the huge amount of content pushed on the market in regards to textures is difficult to deal with.
I feel they can do way more than they do right now, but it's best to look for solutions, not blame.
I'm gonna be honest with you: I always thought of you as an "average content creator" who makes content for a young audience. When I actually watched your videos though, I started to appreciate them, but I still never thought of them as singular. This video really changes my mind about you. Well worded, documented and extremely reasonable while talking about a topic you definitely have an opinion about. Excellent video!
What I like about AntVenom, is that he treats his audience with respect.
@@copper9687 and good editing
Antvenom is always the vsauce of minecraft
@@jirehemanuel"Or is he?"
@@copper9687 Vsauce Music Intensifies
Vattic: "This is my texture pack"
Vizzy: *"OUR texture pack"*
Vattic: *"N O"*
Vattic (four years later): *"N O"*
As a wise robot once said, death is preferable alternative to communism.
@@НікітаДавиденко-м5р This has nothing to do with communism... Russia is defined as a "Federal semi-presidential constitutional republic."
@@error.418 Well, firstly, you must be real fun parties. Secondly, if you want to go the route of Ackchyually, then I should point out that the joke in the SeriousNorbo's comment was made on my/our meme template, which originally features USSR flag and thus associated with communism. And thirdly, the definition of Russia's current political system (good job copying it from Wikipedia btw) has indeed nothing to do with the joke, the only reason it's connected with the situation in any way, is their shitty copyright laws, which allow things like the one in the video and the other with scp foundation to happen.
@@НікітаДавиденко-м5р and suffering might i add.
Glad to see this story is finally public. EM and Compliance deserve all the positive attention they can get
Oh look guys its mullak99! we should thank this guy! so thank you
you are a legend
Good job
indeed
You, you were there.... u doin some good stuff dude... Keep it a goin
As someone who's hobby is in a creative field, I can confirm that *proper crediting and ownership is EVERYTHING* to someone who works in said creative fields. It's the lifeblood that draws in more people who might want to work with you, and spread your name further in a good light. Don't try and take credit and sell something you don't own, people. Because whether you like it or not, a DMCA or a legal lawsuit aimed right at you might just be how it ends.
Some people take advantage of this though. Some sue people for playing two notes in their own original music, claiming that that note progression is their intellectual property.
In summary, just dont be an asshole and respect the intellectual properties of others. And dont be unreasonable trying to claim absolutely every little thing that might just be due to coincidence
If anyone would ask me for resource packs or skins, I would flood his chat of sources and informations. Maybe it's excessive, but I think it's better than not crediting. Because I know the sufference of getting your credits stolen and I don't want anyone to feel it.
You know for all your talk about proper crediting and ownership you're missing an important realization. Faithful doesn't have intellectual property rights. It's just a resolution change of Mojang's default texture pack. There is no way it's different enough to even warrant a claim of ownership.
You can't claim something as yours just because you touched up the visual qualify. It's still the same texture pack as what Mojang made, just with a slightly different resolution.
The fact that Faithful is just a resolution change of the base game's texture renders this entire video pointless.
HARAG0N here, manager of Compliance for 64x resolution. This video is very important for me and thank you for what you did AntVenom.
For anyone who likes 64x resolution here, Compliance 64x is for you.
Love
Haragon !!!!!
HELLO THERE LEGEND
wow you actually commented. have a nice day big guy
HARAGON
kinda wish you had a 1.12.2 version so i could try it as my pc doesn't like 90% of the newer versions of minecraft
I was wondering why "Faithful" hadn't been updated in a while and now I suspect it's a direct result of everything hitting the fan. The process of looking at their issue tracker led me to Vattic's post and this video. I had no idea any of this was going on... thank you for enlightening me!
Ugh, Vizzy being Russian explains a lot. Trademarks are granted on first claiming in Russia, even if there's proof someone else made the IP. If he's filed a trademark there is an extremely long and one sided legal battle ahead. SCP Russia is currently going through the same thing. Markiplier made a good summary video on this event as well.
Trademarks are not generally international, they are country specific (there are international variations of the process, but those also would not be impacted by Russian specific issues).
exactly this reminded me of that situation they should improve russia's legal laws like damn this should not be possible
Trademarks/Registration is almost First2Buy everywhere, atleast that's what I've been warned about
I am from Russia and you are absolutely right
@@Mark-Wilson copyright is definitely one of the least important issues in the russian legal system xD
this is such a great video ant, i’m proud to have been a fan of the channel for years. sending tons of support to vattic!
Wow, great work! That was very thorough. The whole situation is much clearer now, thanks for making an explanation for it.
I was working on keeping Faithful 32x up to date with modern Bedrock versions (I mostly worked on missing UI textures), back before it had to be taken down in early 2019. I was sharing it on MCPEDL so other players could use it also, and the team at MCPEDL let me know that xMrVizzy required all Faithful packs had to be taken down, because of the new copyright. It's a shame that's what happened, but I am relieved that the right things are happening now! 😎
bro I got ur 32k pack on MCpedl! It’s rlly cool
Ur cool
@zulfahmi. very similar doesnt mean equal
@zulfahmi. because it's just another 32x pack which tries to keep vanilla minecraft's look, that doesn't make it faithful itself
sick
Had to revisit this video while looking for a copy of Faithful to try out since I could remember that the pack had been stolen, but couldn't remember any more details than that. It's nice to have access to a resource like this at times.
I remember using Faithful like 7+ years ago and it was great. I didn’t realize how crazy of a story this pack had once you dig deeper. Fantastic video Ant!
first reply
@@marlenenaanes4382 Lol
Speaking for the Russian community, I am so sorry this hideous incident happened. I am utterly disappointed that our community is portrayed in such a terrible light ... again.
I fully support Vattic and the people who contributed to this journey. I hope the action will be taken and Vizzy will get what he deserves!
Agreed. I am sad to say this isn't the first time outliers in the Russian community have done this. Mostly the SCP vs SCP Russia dispute comes to mind.
As an American, we have had our fair share of Intellectual thief, but sadly the Russians get a bad rap, because of how the legal framework in Russia actually works in reality
I wish you well comrade, and wish you good luck.
Согласен!
As a member of Russian community, I've got a theory... Nobody does something just to be bad, every time - there is a reason. Russia as a country is awful, from economy side and life here in general. If you're not living in Moscow or other big central city, you're destined to work slave hours and get paid lowest amount possible. And the worst is that it's very hard to get off that loop. It's hard to get a life if you're in this situation.
I am myself in that loop right now and pesperately trying to fand a way to leave this place.
So it might be something that is going on with them too and they decided to go that way, but I can't tell if it's true or not, it's just something that came into my mind. And I also can't stay silent about the problem itself.
Anyways, have a great day, ya'll.
@@Night_Stary I'm not Russian myself, but, is it true that the legal system (as in, copy rights and stuff) in Russia works in "odd ways"? I've heard about it so many times, and I've always been curious.
@@GumSkyloard Well, I don't know about copy rights topic in our country a lot. Nobody talks about it. Can you tell me what exactly you've heard? Because maybe I don't understand yet.
But I know that we have the most blocked resourses on Internet. I remember one time when they accidentally blocked RUclips instead of Telegram XDDD
One of my friends is a moderator for compliance, Fred figglehorn. He's had his artwork stolen by vizzy for over a year now. Feel free to ask questions if you want.
why yes, thus is me. We're actually on the front page of the Download link for the current Compliance Beta.
wait vizzy stole his artwork?
@@ImmortalChanger Everyone who contributed textures to faithful who didn't consent to it being on the bedrock marketplace essentially had their artwork stolen. My friend here is one of them.
@@ImmortalChanger yes, the creeper and a plethora of other things are stolen.
Now I’m starting to think of how bad & deep Vizzy’s thievery goes. All those years, I can only wonder how many others he stole from.
I hope y’all get some form of justice because this is just disgusting.
I personally prefer the default textures over Faithful, but I never expected this.
Default textures are better than any texture pack
@@crazysanta6641 Default Look/Programmer Art gang
Default’s pretty cool in itself, and if Programmer Art was updated to this day it would be pretty pog.
Quandary back in the day was great, and Jicklus now is pretty good.
@@crazysanta6641 og textures are, not the current ones
Dude falls on hardtimes, and goes homeless. So what does homie do? Take his work and sell it! What a true friend
Who said anything about homeless?
It didn't say it in the video
Do you know something i don't?
@@miltoska9708
8:20
"homie", more like russian. i doubt they r homies to anyone
@@mosye they only become friends when they get locked in a bunker and share a vodka together. If they don't eat eachother by the time the bunker is opened up then they're friends for life!
@@mosye don't use this as an excuse to be racist against russians
I hope this video will help to spread awareness about this whole situation. I am one of the founders of Compliance and previously was a Faithful contributor for many years until Vizzy lost his mind. Can't wait for the future of Faithful. I'm so thankful I'm on the good side of this story.
Reminder that xMrVizzy did absolutely nothing wrong.
@@elroy462 faking a conversation and crediting himself for someone else's copyrighted work.
@@ltsMeNoodle Do not under any circumstance talk about all of the ideas and mechanics from free mods Notch stole without permission or crediting the original authors and then selling them as apart of the game.
@@elroy462 I've never said he hasn't. Both cases are pretty much illegal here (although I don't know about Notch's one), so don't assume they're both right.
@@elroy462 ooooh okay, I see now 😂 when I seen a reply of yours the first time I thought you were just some misguided sole trying to make some point, but now I see after a few of your replies you're just a very good rider or a troll.
Stealing from a homeless guy to sell his stuff for a quick buck is one of the most depressing things I've heard in a while. Makes that insanely high price even more scummy.
And it's not like these things ever make a ton of money, but it could be the difference between _having food_ or not.
OOOF i wanna like but you are currently at a nice 111 likes. here, take this instead 👍🏽
Sounds like Capitalism, steal from the poor to make the rich richer, and it being taken by a Russian of all people from a British man adds to the irony.
Miss the age of Mojang where they were strict on people not being allowed to sell game aspects such as textures/mods or in-game items.
What the hell, Vizzy?
@@somebodykares1 No, human greed. It has nothing to do with fairytales, like communism or capitalism.
@@fosterrico5546 capitalism creates greed 🤑
Hi, recently Microsoft released a recreation of the Ather mod on the Marketplace without Gilded Games knowing. Could you do a video about this topic?
2 comment but 1 reply
@@xanderplayz3446 youtube bugged lel
I used to use Faithful all the time, but after seeing Toycat's video and doing a small amount of research on my own, I stopped using it entirely. I am very happy that this story has a happy ending now.
are you using Compliance now?
Vizzy: "Yes, I can finally make money off something stolen!!"
Vattic: "Allow me to introduce myself."
"Allow me to RE-introduce myself."
They abandoned faithful so idgaf, steal it
Well, it's still not been purged off marketplace, which is surprising. Stolen pack even has 4+ stars reviews.
I'm surprised at least DMCA was not issued.
@@etopowertwon Umm. . . FHLX here, it was. It's a legal process. It'll take a while.
@@LayJD_ it takes 20 minutes to find "report copyright infringement" for Minecraft marketplace. It takes nothing to do with legal actions that can be done in parallel. So... Was the complaint filed and Microsoft/mohjang response varied from none to "we want legal papers from the court pl0x" or лох это судьба and complaint was not filed at all? Because if it the latter then it is hilarious.
The thing about Russian copyright/trademark is it isn’t apart of the global market, that’s why there is a Starbucks chain not owned by Starbucks in Russia and why someone put a request for a Copyright on all SCP related stories/images
yes but Minecraft and the MC store are not in Russia so copyright rules still apply.
@@abj136 yes, but also not really, you can't tell for sure. Many places actually acknowledge Russian trademark registration as legitimate without any doubt, it's only Russians who actually know how badly the system is broken here will question it. Google, for example, will happily follow a takedown request based on trademark infringement, they won't check if it was legitimate or not: was approved in Russia? Must be legit. This was abused so many times already. So if Microsoft does acknowledge Russian trademarks and such, welp, here's your answer to how fake Faithful got to the Store.
ok one question how would someone in russia wanna copyright all scp images when one of the images are already copyrighted by someone else (I'm talking about the first scp created)
@@doctorwars2 easy: to earn money off the popular brand. Literally the same thing as in the video.
@@doctorwars2 the dude that did this basically copyrighted the SCP as a brand in general and basically has complete control over how it gets used in Russia. I have a friend who has a relatively big russian SCP channel and he is mad pissed about it, even tried reasoning with him in dms but nope
Faithful is always my go-to texture pack for Minecraft. Everything looks clean and the builds still look good to people using default... Not to mention I don't have to keep going "Oh yeah that is THIS block" xD great video!
Mullak is bae, Mullak is life. Thank you Antvenom for all of the information and hard work you’ve put into this video and the faithful packs!
I was never aware of such a narrative that existed just because of a texture pack! If I end up using a texture pack, I'll make sure to steer clear of Faithful for now and use Compliance or Emulated Vattic instead. Thanks for the fantastic video and phenomenal story-telling.
I feel like Vizzy continued the project without malintent at first (maybe for a bit of internet fame) but when money got involved things change very quickly :/
Probably felt entitled to profits precisely because he felt he was the reason it survived through the updates. Also likely why he lost it when it was demonstrated that he wasn’t needed to keep updating the pack.
I think faithful was popular enough that someone else would’ve stepped up to keep it updated even if he hadn’t (I’ve just started dabbling in resource packs for the first time in the last month and I’d still heard of faithful back in the day). They may have made more of an effort to try and reach out to vassic, been more communicative and collaborative with the team working to create new textures, and honest with the community who had to put some faith in their word b/c the og creator was mia. The what if’s are endless, but the point is that he overvalued his contributions by quite a bit.
Side stories like this that have years of background always get me thinking about what other stories are out there that have yet to be told. There's gotta be a bunch of good ones out there that someone has yet to come out with for one reason or another. If just Minecraft, one game, can have so many community backstories imagine everything were missing out on.
Like minecraft servers where kids have paid for ranks etc in game items then owners take their money and run off closing the server
@lt_tappy Yeah I can't manage to think of all the untold stories not just in minecraft but beyond it
This is what I love about history. It's not just about names and dates, but people's stories.
@@TooRiskyHD bro I will never forget a payed truMU twice back in the day on PayPal for a rank on his server I played it all the time lol. I never got what I paid for and could never figure it out
@@SlabbyMess yeh it’s annoying man tbh it was kinda weird as most server owners was like 20+ and they’d scam kids I respect the hustle but it’s just sly
Never thought a resource pack would have a story worthy of a Hollywood film. Or that that pack would be the beloved Faithful. Insane. Great work Ant!
But tbh, if you replaced a texture pack with something more valuale and colorized facts a lot, the film would be great.
so basically vizzy overthrew the original faithful government. and then later vattic and the original team retook control.
@@IgorMgtowandVideoGames Basically. He literally assumed control, when he very much did not have it. And of course he lied about it as well.
@@JoePCool14 how was life under vizzy rule?
how did vattic remove vizzy?
are people still loyal to vizzyism?
I had a gut feeling that Faithful wasn't meant to be on the marketplace...
i knew from the get go. i've read the original forum post and i remember ibxtoycats video and said in the comment section that there's no way this is the real Faithful 32x32 pack.
@@ZIGAG1999 ya the marketplace is a closed system basically you have to apply as a company to get in or be partnered under a already existing company and get hired by one of them
mojang says it's a "community based thing" but this is not community there literally companies since that's the only way to go on there
@@ZIGAG1999 i love pirating things so there aren't anyway I'm gonna be buying stuff from that trash bedrock Microsoft store
I don't get it, isn't it kinda vattic's fault for not developing it further and vizzy being on the gray area for continuing it. For community I would say it's clear win for someone to continue the pack. Of course the "selling it on bedrock" part is scummy but so is the whole store. I feel like this is way over-dramatized.
Compounded legally, I heavily doubt Vattic will have any rights to it as he likely left it in the public domain
completely agree, did he act like a prick? sure... Should his life be ruined by lawsuits? No.
The vattic guy made a texture pack and allowed people to edit and upload said edited version for people to use, he then disappeared for almost a decade (whilst he was gone the russian guy continued the pack for years) probably scared the russian guy because he had 0 idea if vattic was even alive. He was literally doing a service to vattic until they put it on the marketplace lol
i was in the faithful discord when this stuff happened with mrvizzy coming back and kicking people out a year ago and i proceeded to download compliance’s packs, join their discords, and vote on some of their textures, however after getting more into the minecraft speedrunning community, where texture packs have rules and faithful is a gray area (not to mention optimal game performance is key and increasing texture resolution is not good for this), i sort of lost track of it all. i’m in the compliance discord still but have never checked it. i knew vizzy was a bad person from his response to the “democratic” work on the pack but had no idea that he blatantly stole it. wow. this does just make me even more impressed with what compliance did though, rebuilding the pack over time from the ground up for every single texture in minecraft. thank you for covering this from someone who used to be a massive texture pack nerd and still sometimes dabbles in them. i’m really glad to see an update on this situation as well as a happy ending and i will definitely update my resource packs for when i play minecraft more casually
Thanks Dream, Ik you arent used to controversy.
Yeah. Faithful being stolen came as a surprise for even us when we got Vattic back in the heat of things. (FHLX here btw)
I have one thing to say: Lmao. "Okay. Now this pack is yours!", this sounds like an AI generated quote
I never really like Faithful (not so big on upscaling Minecraft's textures, I feel 16x16 has it's charm) but I may support the alternatives however I can now lol
It was 'package' and really just sounds like bad english lol
Hey. As a primary contributor to Emulated Vattic Textures 32x32 (EM32D), I am happy to see that you covered this controversy. It means a lot to me and I'm sure it means a lot to everyone involved at EM and Compliance. So I just wanted to say,...
Thank you.
Mixel man
can confirm he is the guy who made the wool and a bunch of other stuff for FV
Please keep up the great work!!!
It was kind of funny how you said "The story would take a turn for the worst..." followed immediately by the text "The Minecraft Marketplace", lol
It’s interesting. Everyone always says “It’s not worth it” or “Don’t bother”. But for an event of this scale, all I can really say is, “How can one know it’s not worth it? Has someone tried?”
Facts
(youtube comunity guidelines)
@@Junniebug Sadly this is true. But RUclips has their reasons but personally I only hope Vizzy at least has to refund everyone their money and compensate the original creator for damages.
Yes, many people have tried to take revenge on people in similar situations and it's never worth it.
@@supernukey419 it is always funny
Hey Ant, I’m from the Compliance team and I want to say thank you for supporting us and EM through all of this. You’re the man!
Ok! this package is now yours.
Congratulations! Please keep up the amazing work
damn, never knew there could be drama even in the minecraft resourcepack artist community...
I hate how it's always the creatives who get screwed over, the originators who make stuff like this in the first place.
15:05
“I look forward to any potential legal action that might be coming your way.”,
Dumbledore said calmly.
Lol
11:48 why was i half expecting him to say “they booked a flight to Japan”? Maybe i’ve been watching to much Nick Robinson.
lmao i laughed my ass off when he said that, hes made a few comments on nicks channel SO I KNOW IT WAS A REFERENCE IT CANT BE A COINCIDENCE
This video is important not just to those involved with Faithful, but to all Minecraft texture artists. Hell, I would even say it goes further than that--that it is important to all Minecraft content creators and those creators outside of Minecraft as well.
Huh? Legal action? I doubt the thief has any money left. Even if they somehow, and there was some sort of legal case... someone from the UK actually _collecting a judgement_ from somebody in Russia? That's _so_ much legal expense, for how much money?
Also - stealing minecraft textures
m( _ _ )m
Even if this story is kinda sad, I'm very happy because I finally have an answer to a question that I had almost 6 years ago when 1.9 released: where's the Faithful texture pack? If it wasn't for this video I would still have absolutely no idea. Thank you for covering this Venom
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I know it is not known or technically released but as someone who has worked on a resource pack for 2 years now mainly for personal use I could not possibly imagine having my entire pack stolen. I am completely disgusted that my resource pack used vizzys faithful as a foundation, mainly being the file names for textures. I look forward to a future where vattics faithful rules supreme!
What resource pack do you work on?
Great vid and so nostalgic too, Vizzy saying “NO DEMOCRACY” is such a hilariously stereotypical Russian thing to do. (also compliAnt made me laugh too)
So uncomfortable to read this text as russian. Especially today.
The hilarious thing, I agree with Vizzy.
@@HallanRus his message or vizzy's message?
@@obey2263, with Vizzy of course
🤡🤡
Vizzy is a time traveler, obviously.
I know it’s been a while since this happened, but holy crap, that’s horrible. I hope Vattic and the other affected individuals are doing better now.
Also Vizzy messed up the last message because "пак" in russian that meant to sound like "pack" got messed up by Google translate so it became "пакет" or "packet"/"package"
Ouch.
Now this package is yours!
Always love seeing the Peaceful Map featured in newer videos
The moment you say “move the resource pack to bedrock” and I immediately know it’s the marketplace and I thought “oh, no, so that’s why it is.”
i would for sure continue a texture pack if i really liked it and it was no longer updated but i would never sell it or claim it as only mine, it feels wrong
Well this was nice and informative and I hope Vattic manages to put his own work on the Marketplace.
The Marketplace???
The name "Faithful" just became so much more ironic as the story progressed
As a veteran from MC 1.6, I am heartbroken. I can’t believe this happened. God bless Vattic. May Vizzy go to hell
As an Alpha 1.x veteran I have to agree with you; Vattic deserves restitution from Vizzy's theft.
Yes.
I remember coming back to minecraft after 1.8 and wondering why faithful wasnt coming from the original author any more- so sad
Hell??? I get that he did some messed up stuff, but that's just excessive. AntVenom literally said NOT to spread any more negativity than there already is. Legal action is good enough, you don't need to wish eternal suffering on the guy.
*Gulag
I think CompliANT should be a spinoff of standard FaithfulVenom
Well, this is the first I've heard of it. But, Vizzy's response to his own team makes it very easy to hate on the guy. Ant, thanks for investigating and going through all the due diligence of a professional journalist to make this announcement as detailed and accurate as possible.
I always thought that faithful is just a successful pack, but I never knew that there is such a big story behind it. It would have been interesting to know why Vaticc Disappeared, but I respect his privacy
Holy cow. Mojang needs to do something - atleast take stolen "fathful" from Bedrock Marketplace
Why the hell aren't any of the alternatives on the marketplace yet? This whole scandal has basically resulted in nothing but bedrock players being screwed cause faithful isn't being updated anymore and the alternatives aren't on there from what I can see.
They're not on the marketplace because they'll always be free.
@@actuallyaridan Wow, kinda useless making a fuss about it being stolen then if you can't support or use the real thing.
After AntVenom mention Vizzy getting crazy with power in discord...
it's a Certified Bruh Moment
I never used Faithful but I'm glad that Vattic got his stuff back
"Out of options and desperate for some sort of resolution, they knew what they had to do."
I love this video.
nick robinson typa sh
Honestly it was hella suspicious that it was removed from mcpedl then added to the marketplace despite having been free on bedrock and Java prior, it was a really nice pack so it was a shame to see it wasn’t free on BR anymore, I couldn’t get the free Java version to port to bedrock back in those days either since I didn’t know how, hope these MP scammers who didn’t even use the 64x or 128x when charging 8 dollars get what’s comming
@bruh you can
Luckily you can just use a java > bedrock resource pack converter
@@xanderplayz3446 you got any good converters? That last time I did that I renamed the assets myself and it took forever
@bruh you need to form a buisness then partner with Microsoft to do so
@@maxswagcaster5315This is a late comment and all but I can try and make a .bat file to do it but I can't promise that I will be able to
Woah.
I like how Ant doesn't put his ads in a completely random place, he times them. He puts them in a place, where it doesn't interrupt the story.
@EternalMoey adblock gang I see
@@chad2160 & RUclips vanced
@EternalMoey i have addblocker too xd
@@chad2160 lmao yt ads are blocked in my country no adblock needed anymore
@@stine_one extraordinarily based
I love how involved you are in this, I remember playing with faithful so long ago and wondering why I couldn't download an updated version. I had no idea that there was a massive scandal involved!!
Great Video, Beautiful message!!
I hope that the original packs of Compliance and Emulated Vattic continue after merging. Having more options are always nice.
They could get away with it via creating addon packs, though.
Well, this is one of the various reasons why Bedrock sucks, the monetization, it creates greed and dishonest people, on what should be game about being creative and allowing for any freedom, especially being able to download any texturepack someone felt creative enough to make then share, without needing money to share it.. Bedrock makes me shake my head.
You can download Bedrock texture packs for free on PC and Mobile. Not sure about Console though. But you can on Xbox, I believe...
@@alexanderthemidI Xbox does have a method, last I checked. It was somewhat convoluted, but it worked.
@@LloydTheZephyrian Yeah. I feel like it's unfair to shame Bedrock just for the micro transactions. The gameplay is the same if not better.
@@alexanderthemidI Yeah but my resentment still stands with Bedrock being ridiculous
That's why MCPE DL exists. A good free 32x is Multipixel. Created by Zou Chenyunfai
Man... Back in 2018-2020 I worked on my own Faithful 32 texture pack because all the other ones I could find were either outdated or not using Jappa's new textures
There should be a update regarding this texture pack drama
AntVenom! Holy crap dude. To be honest I haven't been subbed for a few years because I lost interest in Minecraft, but this content is incredible. The production quality is immaculate - it's always great to re-discover a channel and see how it has evolved over the years. Definitely re-subbing for more of this content and because of fond memories hunting the golden apple! Happy hunting!
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Mullak is insane O_O
I am the only person to comment on this
An Antvenom video on my birthday? What more could I ask for! I remember back in 2012, everyone used faithful. Every youtuber you saw would use faithful. I truly was Minecraft's "Default 2" pack
Happy birthday
Happy birthday!
Happy birthday!!!!
Must be cool to have your birthday close to Christmas. My is not long after Christmas
Ant: spread positivity.
Edgy teens: no.
I have heard a lot of stories regarding marketplace theft, but never knew even big names out there could get robbed. Which makes me grateful for my now employer contacted me to publish my texture pack there.
It's funny how I found faithful years back in 2011.. 2012 and then switched to faithful venom whenever I watched AntVenom and it was all thanks to Vattic. It sucks that the original owner got screwed like this
It's crazy how easy it was for Vizzy to steal faithful I have it on Java and Bedrock and I never batted an eye
i just checked the bedrock marketplace and Vizzy's pack is STILL ON THERE like bruh, what
I remember Ibxtoycat's video and it's one of the reasons I've never used Faithful. I didn't even know Vizzy had technically stolen the texture pack.
whenever I needed a version of Faithful, I always use FaithfulVenom as I felt that the original Faithful was stolen and reprinted endlessly after having a hard time finding an updated source from the original upload page. Hearing all of this, I am so glad I stuck with your version when it comes to Faithful, as I felt like I avoided supporting someone who took the opportunity to steal the most recognized texturepack and selfishly used it for fame and profit.
As one of the Compliance add-on contributors (Henry Hakamichi), thank you. This really does mean a lot to everyone in Compliance and Emulated Vattic.
Emulated Vattic has been renamed to Classic Faithful.
Dang, I did not even know this happened. Thank you for bringing this into the light AntVenom. You’re the best!
11:40 as soon as i hear “out of options amd desperate for answers” i’m wondering if you’re gonna fly to japan
Why Japan
@@svis6888 it’s a meme from nick robinson’s channel, where everytime he is trying to solve a internet mystery he ends up in japan.