BATMAN (1989) BREAKDOWN! Details You Missed & Why Keaton Is The Best! | Deep Dive
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Tim Burton’s Batman (1989) changed everything for superhero movies, a massive hit whose profits directly funded what became the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and left a legacy so timeless that Michael Keaton’s Batman is now returning in The Flash (2023). How do Tim Burton and Oscar winning production designer Anton Furst craft a version of Gotham and a brooding masquerade? Enjoy this analysis and visual investigation by Erik Voss (New Rockstars) to finally reveal the deep dark truth of this film and dozens of details that you may have missed!
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You cannot overstate how fantastic this Gotham was. Absolutely legendary set.
Facts 💯
Especially Batman Returns! 💯
Danny Elfman the composer liked to walk on set just to get inspiration
The best of them in my opinion. No other film’s Gotham even comes close.
IRELIVIN-0PINI0N G0THAM ISNT INTEND 0F BEING GREAT (UNLES Y0U D0 PREFER CRIME L0RD C0NTR0L PLACES)
Keaton, Nicholson, Basinger, and don’t forget my dude Billy Dee - my very first exposure to Batman as a child. And my favorite of all time to this day. HE’S AT HOME! WASHIN’ HIS TIGHTS!
But Michelle Pfeiffer as Cat-Woman in Returns is the best one you could ever possibly have. She was supposed to return in Burton's Batman Forever- but they turned him down for his movies being "too dark" 😭 which is an absolute joke because they just wanted to get it darker and darker afterwards 😞
My man’s EV just did a breakdown of a 34 year old movie and STILL had Easter eggs. GOAT 🐐🐐🐐
Lol not funny
@@hunter7593 lmao it was it was lol 😆
Keaton has always been my Batman. I only wish we could have gotten a trilogy and seen more of him with Catwoman.
Without studio interfere it would have been such a treat. But no McDonald's kid's menu toys I guess 😂
With AI we might still get that!
I tend to agree but he could've stood to hit the gym a bit and put on some bulk. Definitely the best actor but I don't believe he could beat up a gang of thugs.
Forget Keaton.... Lets Just see more of Catwoman!
@@alanlee67this was the 80s, no one cared if he was Stallone, they only cared about a fun movie and not realism. That's why I think the whole Pattinson thing is rediculous, so what if he isn't as big as a truck. It's a murder mystery film where the detective is a furry. All that matters is good acting, good story and good characters
The joker reveal is incredible. Joker shows up at grissoms office and stands in shadow and it's so creepy. Love it
4K remaster ruined that scene. They overexposed his face and you can see him 😢
1989 Batman was is and will always be my favorite Batman movie. Tim Burton brought back the dark seriousness and horror themed version of Batman's comic book roots. Jack Nicholson Michael Keaton and Kim Basinger were perfectly cast and Danny Elfmans score is so iconic and epic.
I heard that the reason Joker went to a horrible surgeon is because he needed to find someone that is corrupt enough that won't go to the police but also loyal enough to not rat him out to Grissom before he's healed.
He had to go to a backyard surgeon as the police would be scouring the hospitals for him.
I also like how he doesn’t attack or kill the doctor
Keaton was amazing as both Batman and Bruce! I never tire of watching this film! The Burton aesthetic matched the tonality of the character and world beautifully. I still get chills hearing the soundtrack..so iconic!
Agreed
The Burton aesthetic is more Tim Burton than DC Comics. Burton's Batman lives in a world where Superman, Wonder Woman, and the Justice League could not exist.
That really sucks that Warner Brothers didn't want Billy Dee Williams playing Tw-Face in he sequels based on his skin color. WB eventually just wanted Burton out because of the controversy he caused based on the darker tone of his films. He was pretty much over it anyway.
It wasn't based on his skin colour. Billy Dee and WB were definitely on board for him to appear as Two Face in a future movie as part of the reason for him accepting the role was a promise that he could reprise the character, but when Joel Schumacher took over the franchise he felt that Williams was "too heroic" and decided to recast the part.
There's a rumour that William's and WB had a contract, and Williams got a payout when they recast the part, though how much of that is actually true is uncertain.
Keaton is the 🐐
He isn't the 🐐... he is the 🦇
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Eric voss*
In my opinion it’s bale and Ben as far as the best looking Batman
🐐 G.O.A.T = Greatest Of All Time
🦇 B.A.T = Best All Time
When this movie came out it is hard to describe how much it changed everything about superhero movies. I was a plus30s woman that was so impressed by Gotham city's look on the big screen and the strength of the characters. Also my introduction to Tim Burton. It really changed the feel of comics to movies. Dick Tracy also came out about the same time. I liked how the main characters had monochrome outfits to reflect the comic look. Dick Tracy wore in a bright yellow trench coat. It too represented a new look of bringing comic books back to the big screen, but it was Batman that is still great to watch today. At the time, it was Batman that people talked about. At my age then, it was my coworkers who took their kids to see the movie and came back to tell me that I was right about how good it was. Keaton is my Batman.
This movie, Michael Keaton…was my introduction to Batman but more importantly - to the comic book world. It will always hold a special place in my heart.
i would love to see a deep dive on the impact of the christopher reeves superman movies
that would be a good video great idea
Yes!!!! Definitely. Its interesting when you can do an evolution of these iconic characters and their grounding characteristics and best interpretations.
@@DeepDiveNR yes pls. I wanted to recommend that. And these deep dive videos are the best piece of contents on RUclips. Pls keep doing the great job
Agreed !
Speaking of those, I have recently been wondering if we as a society at some point immortalized Christopher Reeve as Superman.
I'll _never_ forget seeing this film in theaters. I was 14 at the time, and a Marvel kid. It's not like I didn't know the prominent DC superheroes, but my knowledge of them came entirely from the Adventures of Superman ('52) and Batman ('66) shows, the Christopher Reeve films (which I'm old enough to also remember seeing in the theaters, somehow), and the various cartoons (all of which drew from the Adam West Batman). My dad was a Batman kid growing up, famous in our family for putting on a Batman suit and riding his bike around his neighborhood. My uncle (my mom's brother) was a comic nerd, but someone who also had degrees in physics and mechanical engineering, and is the relative I was always most compared to growing up (when I was really young, he would come over to our house with Frostys from Wendy's every week to watch the Incredible Hulk show). And we all go to see the film together as a family.
It was a revelation for me at that age. As a Marvel kid, I had no idea what "The Dark Knight Returns" was. My uncle, before we even exited the screening room proper, remarked, "Now _that_ was Batman." He could be really critical of portrayals of his heroes on screen, and while I'm sure he didn't hate what the Adam West show did, it was clear to me even at that age that this is what he really wanted out of a Batman film. My dad, a child of the silver age Batman, really did not get why they made the character so dark. The only thing I didn't like, even as I walked out of the theater, was how unlikely it was to decide The Joker as the guy who happened to kill Batman's parents. And much later, I'd start to recognize that I hated how obvious studio backlots were and how they'd take me out of a film. And I'm not crazy about Batman straight-up murdering bad guys. It wasn't until later that friends wised me up to the Joe Chill character, et.al. But a lot of younger fans don't seem to get just how influential this film really was, can't possibly grasp how big it was, culturally speaking (especially for its day), or how hard it was for the generation who were in college or younger when Batman '66 was aired to change their notion of what Batman was and/or should be. My dad didn't care that Batman was always intended to be a darker character; it just wasn't _his_ Batman.
So, this film also has major sentimental value to me on top of just loving it for what it is. We lost my dad in 2009, and my uncle in 2013 (I was trying to get him to try the Arkham games at the time...I *really* wish I'd been successful in that before he died, and it bugs me even more that I didn't try harder as the years pass; I really think he would've loved those games). I know this is a longer comment. The film just means a lot to me and can bring out the self-reflective and sappy sides of me.
This movie was massive when it came out. Keaton is still my favorite Batman. The merchandising on this movie was insane. Considering I was a 10 year old male, I was right in the target market. Everyone under 30 had a Batman logo tshirt. It seemed 9 out of 10 companies ran some sort of promotional partnership with the film. I saw it at the theater at least 4 times along with my friends. (Small town where the theater only had 2 screens. We saw quite a few movies more than once.)
Adam West's Batman '66 was my Batman too (as was the version in Superfriends from Saturday morning cartoons) but when I saw Keaton's version and Tim Burton's take on it I suddenly realized "Ohhhh...THIS is what he was supposed to be!" I then hated the idea of Heath Ledger trying to play The Joker after Nicholson nailed it (I thought) but after seeing Ledger's performance I was in awe. I dont know how, but the two performances are so different yet so perfect in their own right. No offense to Joaquin Phoenix or Jared Leto but neither, in my mind, holds a candle to either Nicolson or Ledger. (Or Mark Hamil)
@@alanfoxman5291 I had the same issue with Ledger at first. Part of it was that at the time, not only did I feel like Nicholson's performance nailed it, but I also felt like we didn't need another Joker live action movie, anyway, when so many other Batman villains deserved a shot in the spotlight. But maaaan, did Ledger and Nolan make that role their own. I still think that The Dark Knight isn't the best *_Batman_* film, but it's such a great *_film_* film that any concerns I had with wanting to see the a more canonical Batman pale in comparson to what they actually accomplished in that project. I mean... holy crap!
Keaton’s Batman always struck me as the most crazy. And I like my Batman crazy. He portrayed a guy who enjoyed being the g-damn Batman. And hands down his Batman voice is the best. The first “I’m Batman” is the most iconic to this day.
I'm pretty sure the smiles on the models for the Joker commercial were the magazine pictures he was cutting up and then did stop motion.
I was 16 when this film came out. And while I was a huge Keaton fan ... I, along with every other kid I knew, was highly concerned he was the wrong pick for Batman ... so much so we were not going to go see it. Granted, we were all amazed by Keaton's performance. Such a great film, it gets away from diverging from the comic. -- Amazing deep dive Erik!!
Tim Burton's Batman is iconic because it presented the dark side of heroic derring-do, where Superman is the good guy and doesn't engage in violence or use fear to make bad guys cower, Batman uses darkness and fear to fight the criminals and violence is a part of the weapons he uses against them. The art style and atmosphere are as Erik says what makes Gotham a twisted and maniacal landscape, almost like the city shuns the light and embraces the darkness and the shadows, the twisted and clashing architectural styles their own madness on display. This is a deep dive not only into how Batman changed superhero films but how it really illustrates that art direction is important to the setting and mood of the film and how it supports not only the director's vision and the actors performances but plays a part in immersing us the audience into the pretend world of Batman.
21:00 dead man switch like Luther
This is the first superhero movie I saw at the movie theater when I was 11 years old and I loved it! Plus the soundtrack is killer!
Mine too! I had just turned six and was promised to see it as a late birthday gift. It forever imprinted on me to become the comic geek I am today. With so many Batman Movies out there, I refer to the Batmobiles by the actors who portrayed Batman. The Keaton is my all-time favorite Batmobile.
Prince knocked it Out
Thank You for this video. And for the work you do. Batman ‘89 is my favorite movie of all time and has been since I watched it in the theater as a 7 year old.
I know tons of trivia about the movie and rarely hear or see anything about it I haven’t known for years already. That being said, you revealed things about the film, and it’s connection to most of the Batman films since, that I never noticed or even considered.
My favorite new thing I learned is that the boy whose parents are shot in the beginning is wearing the same shirt as the man who shoots his parents. Chilling, yet sad, when you see what the shirt says…
Rock on, man. I don’t know what your title is (researcher, video essayist, etc.) but I’m comfortable saying you’re the best at it.
🃏🦇
Keaton by far has the best cold and silent mannerisms as Batman, followed by Pattinson. Those two give such chilling presence everytime they're on screen, able to convey emotions with nothing but their stare. Glad I grew up with these goats
True. They both give the batman a distinct dark side. My favorite live action ones!
Yes! I was just telling someone else that one of the many things that I love about Robert Pattinson's portrayal is that it reminded me of Michael Keaton's
As much as Keaton is my #1 Batman and Affleck is my #2, I really have to agree on your statement!!! Pattinson did have that same cold look about him. I do think his Batman will be so much better in the next film. I am actually looking forward to seeing his progression as both Batman an Bruce.
I love your “mirror.”
I have to disagree. Keaton yes but Pattinson was horrible and so was the movie.
I have one issue with this, and it's in the first minute:
No current on-screen iteration of Batman has been portrayed with Disassociative Identity Disorder. I'm not sure if Erik meant it literally or not, but as both Batman and Bruce Wayne remember everything that happened in the other's life, he does not have this disorder. I don't personally have DID, but a friend of mine is in a DID system, and I've learned a decent amount from them
Once again, no bad feelings towards Erik, especially since I don't think he meant it literally
That Prince soundtrack is still one of the best of all time! This was an amazing Deep Dive and thank for you doing it! Now I wanna go watch the movie again lol
I loved.. LOVED that soundtrack.
I still remember the day I saw this movie in the cinema. I was completely obsessed with Joker's outfits and wished I could wear them...
20:50 Batman kills him
To those that weren't around in 1989 when this came out, it was a HUGE deal. I remember stories on the news where bus stations that had the movie poster on them were being vandalized. This movie was everywhere that year and you couldn't escape it. And it lived up to the hype. One can definitely see it's influence in the years and decades that followed. I'm glad Warner Bros let Christopher Nolan have creative control, they should have given that same control to Burton, that Bat universe would look very different had they done that.
Still remember seeing this in '89 when I was 13. I freakin loved it !
I still remember walking into my first grade classroom when Batman came out, and seeing one of my classmates with the bat logo on the back of his head from a haircut! This movie is special to me because it was the very first one my dad ever brought me to go see at a theater! I’ll never forget it! Thanks Voss, 🙏🏼 this might be my favorite breakdown you’ve ever done! Excellent job my guy! 💪🏼
21:40 where is the proof
Keaton 89 - BEST BATMAN EVER
This movie was seminal for me. Yes I shaved batman into my head at 17. So many other firsts too. First really great block buster I took a date to, first movie to give me a shiver from the visuals and the very reason I still watch every Dc and Marvel superhero movie and tv show that comes out to this day. I was hooked. Great DIVE Erik!
Just mentioning, one of my favorite parts about Michael Keaton's Batman is that he's NOT a playboy! He's an introvert like me, working on getting out of his shell like I've been all my life.
Also, almost anything could've been better than a man willing to blow all his money and have sex with just about anyone.
@@DeepDiveNR Could we also get breakdowns or deep dives on the other Batman movies, particularly Batman Returns? You know, in preparation for the Flash.
@@DeepDiveNR True, but i like to think extrovert playboy Bruce is just a role he plays for the outside world.
As a brooding, awkward introvert myself, I relate to this Bruce Wayne so much.
My nostalgia is tingling!!! My brother and I watched this so many times on the old VCR! The music! The Jack of it all!
I'm so happy that this channel exist. This long form brekadown of classics is so much fun.
I dont know if you guys are taking requests but id love to see a deepdive of The Last Samurai
19 years old and the first movie I ever stood in line for.
But SO happy it started my MCU obsession.
My dad took me when I was 6 thinking it was gonna be more kid friendly lol...been a batman fanatic ever since
I saw this the year it came out in elementary school and was instantly hooked. It was just so stylized and cool. The costumes, the gadgets, the villain. I had all the toys.
I never once noticed the bat symbol on his chest didn’t match the logo.
Not just how it changed superhero movies forever, but how it changed superhero cartoons as well since the success of Batman 89 led to the development of BTAS, which also took a lot of influence from the movie and set the standard for all subsequent superhero cartoon shows that were NOT just for kids (including all of the DCAU spin-offs).That's certainly been my main source of gratitude for this movie as a 90s kid who wasn't born yet when it was in theaters.
Nicholson’s laugh takes a lot from Cesar Romero, too. WHO WAS FRIKKIN ICONIC.
I wonder why there was no mention of the 60s TV show?
Jack Nicholson's portrayal of the Joker was akin to Cesar Romero's version from the sixties television show, the only other live-action version at the time, that he could have used as a reference.
I bet nicholson or burton refrain from seeing or referencing that campy show. Burton was hugely influenced by Frank Miller's the dark knight returns comics published in 1986. Hence his take on batman was too deviate as far away as possible to adam west batman.
The 60's Adam West Batman and Adam West himself went on to be shown the love an appreciation for his work ..but in 1989 that was NOT the case. The Superman franchise exploded and then crashed and the entire comicbook movie genre died along with it. Adam Wests BatMan is the only live action frame of reference people had - so the doubt surrounding whether the movie would be a success was huge.. PLUS, of all people to cast - they choose Mr. Mom?.... BeetleJuice is going to be BatMan?..PLEASE say this is a joke. Thats another reason the movie Exploded like it did.. so many people went in, kind of doubting wheter the movie would be any good and - it turned out to be GREAT.
Masterful deep dive into one of my favorite movies of all time. You captured all of the best quotes and themes.
It's interesting all the steps they went through for the handkerchief wiping away the flesh makeup, when they could have just put white makeup on the handkerchief itself, having him wipe makeup ON instead of Off. That's how I always assumed it was done.
That’s how I always thought they did it too, very interesting to learn more about Joker’s makeup!
Eric, you're helping me calm down during my anxiety attack in the hospital right now. You don't know me and I don't know you. But thank you so very much for being you. You're so energetic and positive and it's actually helping me right now. Thank you so very much for being you.
Not looking for attention, replies or arguments. Just sincerely want to thank Eric Voss for being him.
Hmmm, the new batman movie also embodies this movies design choices, like most obviously the city itself and the penguin or its more wide cowl for r.patts's very sharp jawline!
I love how you can clearly see the inspiration in the new batman which makes you appreciate this one so much more!!!
Let's not forget that Billy Dee Williams' Harvey Dent DID eventually, and finally, get his Two-Face opportunity in the Lego Batman Movie! I LOVED this part of the follow-up film, it showed a clear fan desire for this continuance to have transpired in the first place.
We are getting the real batman 3 in the flash movie , keaton is # 1 for me🦇🦇🦇
Had this movie memorized. Classic.
Same! My little brother and I used to say the lines at night instead of falling asleep 😂
Love Batman 89. It was one of the movies I grew up watching on repeat and still love to this day. It’s iconic.
Wow, wonderfully written. Well done. I loved the references and sources. Very inspiring and makes the film more of a meticulously calculated work of art than I had first thought. I am most pleased that I had been made aware of things that I didn't already know although I watched this movie routinely with the other 3 on VHS.
21:30 why signal
Excellent. Thank you for this deep dive Deep Dive...👍
When I was a kid, my uncle had a laugh-box with the same laugh from Joker’s end, so it was a legit thing.
I'm 43, this was my favorite movie growing up so I've seen it many, many, times. One scene I'm surprised that you didn't delve into was when Batman was flying the batwing towards Joker and was shooting large caliber bullets at him, which appear to strike Joker yet causes no harm at all. It was odd on multiple levels: 1. It showed Batman taking things to a new level by attempting to kill Joker by actually shooting him with a gun. 2. How Joker survived being hit directly with large caliber rounds from a jet isn't explained at all. I never understood this scene and thought it was poorly explained and not the best writing in an otherwise absolute classic of a film. I was hoping to hear your thoughts about it.
Doesn't Joker get straddled by the bullets? I guess the idea was comedic contrast with Joker's one bullet taking the Batplane down.
Keaton will always be the best Batman, no one can change my mind.
What an awesome deep dive, Voss!
Hoping for a Deep Dive into Batman Returns!
Jack will always be the best Joker too!
I love Batman with Michael Keaton, just a classic.
My goodness, Erik! As a 61 year old life-long Batman fan and a lover of this movie, you have not only given us a truly original take on this subject, but you make it so fun. Count another new fan!
This is one of my top five films of all time. It's rare that a year goes by, that I don't view it. But even I'm shocked at all of the smaller details, that I never noticed, until I watched this video. It took me about an hour to watch this whole thing, on account that I had to keep pausing it whenever something interesting was mentioned, so I could pace out of genuine excitement. To put a finer point on things, Michael Keaton's performance and the surreal urban atmosphere that Burton and his crew (Furst, Pratt, Ringwood, etc) created, made this movie the most palpable, credible and for that matter, most faithful adaptation of a superhero comic, that there's ever been. My only real nitpick, would be that although Kane and Finger cocreated Batman, it's Bill Finger who deserves most of the credit. Maybe even a name drop for Jerry Robinson, but I digress. I loved this video. I gotta go get myself an original Brian Bolland,1989, Joker t-shirt now. Man this video was good!🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇🦇
This Gotham is the best one ever realized on film. My brother and I had this on VHS and we wore the crap out of it. There was a Looney Toons/Warner Bros/Coke commercial at the beginning. Great times.
Kids today don't know what they're missing with their stupid tablets and video games.
This is the first movie I ever seen in theaters. Changed my life in the best way. #KeatonBatmanForever
It's a bag of laughs, an old novelty gag like chattering teeth, whoopee cushions and x-ray specs. They used to sell them in comic books.
I was 12 years old at the time when this release date unless you were there you have no idea the hype around this movie it was insane
I remember going to the movies to see this in a Batman t-shirt, Batman baseball cap, and a Batman cup in hand! It was a HUGE deal! I turned 8 summer '89 ❤
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Because of the internet and there is so many different choices we will probably never see anything like that again
The laughing bag on the joker's dead body was a Bag of Laughs, sometimes known as a Laugh Bag. That was a well known novelty gag toy at the time. It wasn't explained because audiences knew what it was. Remember entertainment and varieties of ways to entertain were much fewer back then, and it was much easier for ordinary people to become aware of things that today would seem obscure.
The only problem with Keaton's Batsuit is his magical eye shadow. This is my favorite part of the Robert Pattinson Batman. He takes that cowl off and he looks like an extra in a My Chemical Romance video.
I LOVE this movie! This was my introduction to the Batman world when i was a kid, the comics, the videogame, etc. Now i'm 39, and Batman still my favorite superhero thanks to this movie, and my 3 favorite Batman movies are this one, The Dark Knight and The Batman (2022).
Erik your work always amazes me!!
Awesome Video Erik!!! This Movie is Great and Michael Keaton Is So Great in As Batman!!!
I'm SO Excited for His Return in The Flash!!!
You should do a breakdown for each of the Tim Burton Batman movies over on New Rockstars.
This channel seems to be less than a year old, but is SO good! There are sooo many movies I'd like to see you enthrall us with your acumen with...Star Wars, The Godfather (I &II), The Breakfast Club, Fight Club, Silence of the Lambs, Se7en, Meg3n, Predator & Prey, Alien, Superbad...There are so many I would love to see you apply your talents to. This is an offer you can't refuse. Please make it so.
Keaton forever will be the only Batman🦇 in my eyes 👀 and I’m glad he’s back to put back the cowl on the new flash movie 🎥
Yes really great for an very old guy to play Batman, all his moves was stuntmen, even back then, but the crap movie flash, was really a joke to have people think that an over 60 year old man doing fighting and so on. Best scene was Affleck
@@becheriksen You must be new to the lore. Batman is 55 years old in TDKR. He's even older in Master race and he still kicks ass. And Batman in live action always had stuntmen. So your comment is absolutely invalid.
I was 8 years old in the summer of 89’ and my dad took me and my brother to see this in the movies and when it came out on VHS I watched it EVERYDAY and had ALL THE TOYS 🥹
This was my introduction to the world of Batman I think your analysis of the Bruce Wayne / Batman persona is perfectly right. There is one moment when Vicky kills Bruce about house used to visit her grandparents who have a house on the lake Bruce puts his hand to his face and when he tells her that sounds nice it comes off to me as he wishing he could have had that simple life instead of what he got this idea is emphasized when she immediately asked about his family and he seems to snap out of his fantasy and quickly just say Alfred is my family I do love how Keaton played this role you really feel Bruce Wayne's tortured psyche in this film his inability to really decide who he really is until he puts on the cape and cowl and of course Jack just being his amazing hilarious and somewhat horrifying self as the Joker just makes this so fun great job now we need to get you on Kevin Smith Fatman beyond podcast and y'all can tell us what you all think it's going to happen with Keaton returning in The Flash movie
@@DeepDiveNR Another moment that shows Wayne's mental health is when he and Vicki are in bed and he looks confused as if he doesn't deserve it then looks out towards Gotham as if he knows he is becoming normal and doesn't like it at all.
I love all your deep dive videos so far; you're really hitting all the right notes. Also, I just flayed my finger while move-out cleaning, and you're helping disract me from a shocking amount of pain. Kudos to you, sir!
This isn't just my favorite superhero movie, it's my favorite movie! The score, that cast, freaking Prince! It's got everything
I also like how I also like how the Joker in Bat man 89 is a complete parallel from the Joker and the Dark Knight because 89 Joker starts terrorizing the city with a more subtle approach like lacing some chemicals, some household product, and then with various other stuff, he ends up with gasing Gotham with the big baller parade, but Ledgers Joker! ledger Joker he started with robbing the mob bank, and started with a good shot and then started going on a great scale, also in the final park and final part, Ledgers Joker initially falls off the building, but is then hooked by the Batman, by a rope, but Nicholson's Joker, just falls and dies. So yeah, that's difference, and I love it.
keep em coming Eric! These deep dives and invosstigations are getting better every day.
Two details in the early scene in Grissom's penthouse:
There is a black bust statue in front of the window that the gangster electrocuted by the hand buzzer would later resemble.
When Grissom says "You... are my number one guy!" he stands right in front of Jack facing him and broadly grinning in a devilish way as if showing Jack his own future reflection.
Also, the largest photo of the nerve gas victim with the ghoulish rictus grin foreshadows Joker's own death - on his back and staring at the sky over a frozen smile.
My favorite Batman film!
So happy that you mentioned Bill Finger and not just Bob Kane. He never gets the credit he deserves.
I would love to see a deep dive into the first Star Trek film. I have strong memories of going to the cinema to see it with my dad who was a big Star Trek fan. The shot where they approach the enterprise for the first time in a shuttle, I can still remember my dad being speechless when we watched it.
I like that every scene of Jack before he becomes the Joker showed how fearless he is until he met Batman. He is having sex with a mob boss' wife in his own house, he bribes a cop right next to a crime scene, someone points a gun at him he doesn't flinch, the cops are coming to kill him and he's more worried about his henchmen. He sees Batman and he is instantly terrified(don't blame him)
You really studied your Batman I thought I was a mega fan until I heard you talk about every aspect of this movie, right down to the eyebrows Kudos to you and this video it really shows you know what your doing, and your great at it! 💯
I was born in 1980 and was 9 years old when this came out. It was literally the biggest thing that had happened to me up to that point, yeah they hyped it big time and I was so crazy anxious to see it...we didn't go to movies all the time but every now and then. I never read the comics really so this was the first time I saw the alleyway mugging scene so I was confused about Bruce's parents for a long time...The movie was great and I flipped out when I saw how awesome it was! I'm not even that much into superheroes but ever since that day I have been a LIFELONG Batman fan!
This is insane! My opinion was decently high on this movie before but after watching this, it's definitely gone up! Love all of this!
Keaton's actually aged really well. He doesn't look that much older than he did in '89.
Keatons always my favorite Batman love to see him back on the big screen
I love how you get a hint of beetle juice when he says “let’s get nuts!😡”.
8 year old me getting home from school, my mom yelling for me to come into the basement.
no lights didnt see her only thing was the new vhs batman a tv and vcr and a bowl of popcorn. one of my best memories. to go along with the best batman ever made.
Wow. I literally grew up with this movie. I've watched it dozens of times, and never realized how much though was actually put into it!
I'd LOOOOVE to see a Deep Dive on The Usual Suspects movie!!!!
Something I never noticed for years - when Bruce comes into Vicki's apartment, he says, "Nice place.. lots of space.." Jack says the EXACT same thing when he comes in - showing how similar the two actually are.
The glove punch gag into Harvey Dent's Burning T.V. Face is foreshadowing the imminent fate that happens to him somewhere between the events of Batman Returns and the premise of Batman Forever.
We used to have those toys as kids. They were marketed as a “bag of laughs”. As in, “that guy is a real bag of laughs.”
First movie I ever went to see as a child, was 7 years old, was magical. Ill always remember the batwing flying in front of the moon, sitting there in aw.
The wiping off of the makeup thing was cool to learn. I actually just figured he had white paint on the cloth and was applying the white over top. The things you learn on the internet.
5:46 I love that he's talking to someone who's really named Jack.
This was quite interesting. Sometimes interpretation itself can become a form of fan fiction itself, bringing up things the director or script writers never imagined, but you back yours up with a lot of evidence.
A Laughing Box that Gives the Joker the Last Laugh......you CAN NOT Match the Machiavellianism.
The part where the camera flashes accent Batman’s punches, was a nod to Adam West’s and the comic Batman and the onomatopoeia’s that pop up on the screen and pages when they punch their enemies
I have watched this film more times than I could count, yet you just opened up my mind to so many things I've never considered from a storytelling angle. Awesome work!
I love the line when he said” I made you made me first” on the rooftop.
6:37 Jack's character in One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest wasn't mentally ill. He was pretending to be crazy to avoid prison / hard labor.
About the two extra prongs/tips on Keaton's bat-symbol.
Tim Burton said that he could never really read comics growing up because of his severe dyslexia. But was given an early draft of Alan Moore's The Killing Joke during pre-production on Batman.
And said it was one of the only comics he ever managed to read (probably due to having access to it in script form).
In that story Batman is drawn with two extra points on his bat-symbol.
I think that's why they designed the symbol in the movie with two extra points.
Keaton reprising the role is the only thing about the new Flash film I want to see! He's always been my favourite Batman and I love the way you probed his psyche in this video.
I was 7 or 8 years old when this version of Batman came out and, you’re not kidding about the way Bat-Fever swept the country.
Since it was a PG-13 movie, I remember my brother and I had to beg and beg our parents to take us and eventually we decided we’d act out whatever we thought a scene from the movie would be for our parents.
I forget exactly what the scene was, but whatever the case, our plan worked. They took us to see it and, in hindsight, that first taste of performing for a delighted audience was the precursor to acting in HS/college/and working as a semi-professional improviser in adulthood.
Loved this dive, Erik. Super insightful piece on a legendary film that doesn’t tend to get as much love as it should. 👍👍
I thought this and batman returns were decent. Michael keaton was decent batman and i didn't grew up in the 80s and 90s. I was born until 1999 and was alive with a different batman and generation.