Fujifilm X-Pro3 - 5 Reasons to Buy and a few Negative First Impressions
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- Опубликовано: 19 июл 2024
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I get asked almost every hour what I think about the Fuji X-Pro3 so far. So I thought I would give you my first impressions after roughly a week of use. I have shot +600 photos, both at work and in spare time. But it is still a bit early to say for certain wether I will keep it or flip it. The X-pro line is known for keeping it value quite well so I don’t think I would loose that much money.
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I finally managed to get Classic Neg from the X-Pro3 working with raw in Lightroom and no artifacts.
There was a new version of Lightroom released a few days ago and to my surprise it had installed itself on my computer. Strange since I always turn off automatic updates on my OS, phone, all softwares etc. I never ever update anything unless there is a specific reason. But for some reason my Lightroom had done it on its own and thats probably what did it :)
Anyway, good for Fuji to get on the ball so quickly.
So now my problem is instead to find out WTF is up with Creative Cloud who thinks it can do what ever it feels like..
(EDIT: I have also found an article where Phase One confirms that it's the same case for Capture One. Fujifilm provided the needed documentation.)
So exacly what I wanted to write. It's Lightroom that is handicapped not the camera. It's the software job to use all the camera abilities. Good it works now.
@@TheHector244 No it was the camera that was the issue but Fuji finally got around to fixing the problem. Thankfully. Still not impressed by how fuji could make such a huge misstake.
Can you planly explain my wife why I need it?
+1 please....
Can we collectively ask you to speak to our wives on our behalf?
Buy it as a present for her and hope she doesn't use it much.
@@gearreallydoesntmatter hahaha! good advice...
if someone older than 16 must explain something to his wife about his hobby or his money i think he has more serious problems to solve as a camera buy
The dryness of the sarcasm makes drought ravaged Australia seem lush. 10/10 would enjoy again
The flip-down screen is like having a waist-level viewfinder. Great for getting candid shots without drawing too much attention.
well did you get one?
Ofc I now want one, your pictures could sell snow to eskimos.
Big facts, lol!
Hahaha he would be the worst person to ask about curing your GAS.
I would love to do some street photography among igloos :)
I love your description of the LCD, that was awesome.
I’ve been eagerly awaiting this video!
Love your videos Mattias. Real simple and informative👍 You really helped me in buying my first ever camera. I still watch your videos even after my purchase. Keep it up🙏
I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the videos :)
As much as I want one, it's almost impossible to justify that price esp when some of us are already sitting on 2-3 cams. Lovely video as always though! 🖤
You really do such an excellent job Mattias. Thankyou again.
I really am growing on Fuji, I bought a XE1 on a lark being the cheapest XTrans sensor and it doesnt seem to have slowed me down at all. I love the film presets and good adapted glass features, its almost like shooting a film camera with a digital back. Really makes me feel creative when my main Wildlife photography feels like its hit a rut, I grab my XE1 50mm Rokkor, Instax Mini 90 and hit the town!
Hey, did you see the X-E3 is on sale for $499 at B&H Photo?
@@Lainer1 Thanks for pointing that out but I already have the Canon 80D so if I need better resolution I find for the kinds of portraits and architecture I shoot with the Fuji, resolution is never a problem
Your reviews are the ones I immediately trust. Very helpful. Thank you.
Still using my XPro 1 going into 2020 😎
2020 will be 7 yrs i will have had the xpro1. A camera i still love to shoot and which has been worth every penny.
Me too! Still going very strong! 💪👌😁
Shawn Brezny
Good man!
Is the photographer not the camera that matters! 👍
Thanks for this video! Great to hear your thoughts on this camera.
Thank you for another amazing video Mattias. When I first heard about the screen in the X-Pro 3 I thought it was very weird, but can fully appreciate treating this like a film camera. It will be interesting to see if Fuji do something similar with the next X100.
Since I shoot mostly from the hip, it is the ideal camera for me for street. I have also determined that I can scroll through presets on the back panel just by tapping the Q and then using the back wheel. Same with the button above. I just wish it was backlit a little. I am only using the 35 1.4 lens at this time and like the fact that it forces me to frame and think about what I'm shooting. I love the raw in camera conversion too. Mostly I love the look at feel of it. All black no markings, minimal buttons etc. It's the closest thing to a Leica 240 or M without the expense. I'm also trying to shoot in 1:1 and also not crop after again trying to bring mindfulness into what I'm shooting.
Many think that it is only the final image that counts but I disagree and think that the way you arrive at something is just as important. Another channel recently went off about someone who takes 30 min to make a cup of coffee and they thought that it was a big waste of time. Their opinion is that only the final thing counts not how you get there.
I was thinking of that Mick Jagger and the Tiger double exposure by Albert Watson. Today you could easily do this in about 15 min in Photoshop. But Albert Watson is an amazing photographer who knew his craft and tools and is a real artist. In my opinion, how you do something, the pathway there is as, if not more important as the final product.
The full review should be very interesting. Thanks for the preview!
Oh, and you know we are all waiting for your review of the 159. ;-)
A Mattias 2-week review > anyone else's long term review. :)
I'm waiting for your impression man :)
Looking forward to your take :)
Thanks for the detail about the front click dial. That, and missing dpad really cuts down on custom buttons.
I’m very much hoping that you will do an in depth review of this camera. I love my X-Pro1 but I’d really like some weather sealing. And that flip down screen looks fantastic to me.
Thank you for the info on the eye sensor implementation!
As a dog lover, I think I saw something about some camera but Gunpowder gets more handsome with every video you do.
Great video, I completely agree with your considerations
Being waiting for this review.
Looks like a great camera I'll never buy
I recently bought a Fuji X-Pro3 used, 4 months old, for 1500€, same as the X100V new. I was choosing between these two cameras and this was just the little push to get the X-pro3. I have already XF lenses. This will be fun!
Patiently awaiting delivery in UK
Great comments Mattias. I've not used Classic Neg yet. Been shooting Raw plus Pro Neg Std and not had any issues in LR since the last update which added support for the X-Pro3. Main complaint I have which is a small but irritating one, is that there isn't a warning light to tell you that the camera is still switched on. The rear sub-screen changes when off but that's not instantly visible. A small led light would have been handy. As I said only a small complaint from me. Other than that I love the camera. I tried a pre-production model for several hours about a month before release and that sold me on the camera. I look forward to your review because they are always well thought through.
Yeah all the other profiles works just fine. Good point about the light. Guess I haven't thought about it since Im used to feeling the power switch to check if it's on.
Very underrated channel this content is awesome
I think the x-pro3 is a brilliant camera. But I also have an x-e3 and x-t2 that I love. I think what I truly love about Fuji is the lens line, the APS-C sensor size, and the physical dials. I don't think the x-pro3 adds enough onto what I have. What excites me about it is computational -- I can wait for a used x-e5 to get the better focus in lowlight, HDR and multiple exposure functions, tone/curve editing, and what will probably be an equivalent or better EVF by that time for 1/2-1/4 of the price.
Thanks for the first impressions and especially for pointing out that titanium itself is rather soft. As a watch and bicycle guy I felt puzzled by all the reviewers presenting titanium as an extra tough material. I guess Fuji addressed it with the Dura coating - just as some watch manufacturers do...
The always on viewfinder really turns me off, on my X-Pro1/ X-Pro2 I use the 'always off until needed' setting. Maybe it will be updated via firmware update.
The problem is some start to make scratch tests on Dura expecting it to be even more scratch resistant. When its more an attempt to make titanium on par with magnesium or in watches, steel :)
I own two titanium watches. A Tudor pelagos which is a scratch magnet and a seiko shogun witch is duracoated and is very scratch resistant. Will be interested to see how these xpro3 bodies hold up.
Many thanks, I have had my X-Pro-3 for just over 3 years and I love it. I also have the X-Pro-1 and the X-100 all of which i use more than my Leica's and Hasselblad !!! Cheers Neil
Like your honest review thank you so much
Waiting to buy an xpro 2 next year
Have you gotten it?
please continue to review this beauty
Thanks! I'm still waiting for mine so I can't compare. Now the price is pretty much the same as the X-T3 when it came out. That's the only downside to me so far: I would have loved the X-pro3 to be even more unique
Hope you get it soon!
I think this xpro3 will please a lot of film enthusiast.. I learn photography from film era..and so far fuji always grows my nostalgic feelings and enjoy "photography" again.. great video Mattias ❤
Great video!! I’ve been looking forward to this!! Would love to see if the camera can focus well in the dark ( -6 EV) as advertised! 😆
So far the focus in the dark have worked very very well.
@@gearreallydoesntmatter That's awesome 😆 Thank you for the fast response, Mattias! Keep up the good work! 😆🙌🏼
Hi Mattias, could you eliborate on the tripod use cases? How far does the screen fold down when on a l bracket or tripod plate? I havent found a satisfying answer yet
I'm very happy with my x e2s a heck of a camera , smaller also.
Ahhh. Been waiting for a first impressions video! You know, I don't understand why every camera with a tilt screen doesn't deactivate the eye sensor. It's the most obvious feature (and EXTREMELY practical)! Seems like that could be a firmware fix, right? I would LOVE that for my X-T2's. That's very odd that you're having issues with the new simulation in LR. It's a shame too, since Classic Neg. looks even better to me than my beloved Classic Chrome. Hopefully it will be fixed for the RAW shooters.
I know right? I didn't know they can do it..But they should have done it to other cameras with tilt screen as well..it's brilliant solution.
When flipping between the Nc and CC they are actually quite similar. A little WB and curve adjustment matches them nicely. Until they fix it I can always convert in camera (I won't use Nc much since I still find CC nicer).
I have a Sony A7ii and the EVF triggers and turns off live view when anything is a million miles away from the evf. Super frustrating and no way to turn it off. Depends on how it is implemented.
@@sid3986 yup, that's why the Fuji XH1 solution is so welcomed. Hopefully they add it in firmware.
Why would you need the EVF to turn off when you tilt the screen on the X-T2? It’s not a touchscreen so your fingers are not triggering the eye sensor.
"the comments section is at peace" 😂
Hoping mine is delivered today. I’m very excited. Thanks for the video! Trying to learn as much as possible before I get my hands on it.
It is a fun camera to use out of the box.
"I get asked almost every hour" I need to LOL this
Hi! Great footages you have there. May I asked if the pictures are edited? Or are they straight out of camera? :)
Great camera. I have XT3 and XE1 And XE1 still is great for odd bash around
Thank you for the video! Been very curious about this camera. Being an X-Pro2 owner I'm not entirely sure if it's worth considering even upgrading.
It is if you want a tilt screen, a secondary display and the new frame lines. Otherwise not.
thx for the video! very nice
Hi Mattias, Can we get an update on your X-Pro3 thoughts? I'm looking to grab one, but I would love to hear your long term view first. Thanks!
Hey, wonderful video. I was thinking of investing in the Fuji system and was wondering which lens did you use for the majority of shots shown in this video, I seem to like the field of view in all your pictures. Thanks in advance.
It's pretty much the 35mm f1.4 only in this video.
Great video Mattias! Still waiting on the Leica cL video
Leica CL? That is a beaut.
Gedav123 can’t wait for it too lol
May I ask your view on the haptic feedback you get from the shutter button? In my camera, when I half press the shutter button I need to put that extra effort to press it down in order to focus and then the remaining distance till I actually take the photo is minimal with no "click" feeling like in other cameras. Like after the button reaches the end of the "focus" point the remaining distance to actually take the picture is very small. How is it in your case?
This is my dream camera, but it is so expensive it will stay a dream... I will go for the xpro 1
Loved the sarcasm about comments. :)
Yeah, the drive button is rather pivotal for me. I like having right hand operation for changing that setting while in the middle of shooting an event. The X-Pro2 is holding it's own for me with AF and when I need more I switch to the X-T3. The day that the X-Pro3 was announced was the day that I received my "new" Fuji camera - a near mint condition X-E1. Figured it would be a camera that will force me to slow down and it was considerably less costly than the X-Pro3. :p
Yeah the Xpro3 is definitely overkill for slow shooting. It's very quick and it would be wasted for going slow. That's why I have a XE2s for mindfulness and the Xpro3 for run-n-gun :)
Great video, Love your style!!
Beautiful Longines Heritage Military watch you have there Mattias!
Drippingly sarcastic, great video!
Hey Mattias! Just picked one up and am wondering if you think there's space for a 0.3mm glass screen protector. I know the screen is covered, but just hoping to keep sand/grit out on vacation travels. Can't wait until mine arrives.
Best,
Tim in Atl
No idea, I never use anything like that.
I'm not into watches, but I am a dentist, and yeah, titanium scratches 😬 it is, however, an incredible, hearty, and unique material.
@Mattias Burling-do the classic negative artifacts with .raf files appear in Silkypix as well as Lightroom? The reason I ask is that if I use Irdient X-transformer, and change the camera model to fake out Lightroom to give up the classic negative profile with older cameras, I am not seeing the artifacts. However, I think the new profile is a bit of a meh in the first place.
It probably has its place but 99% of the times I wouldn't use it even if it worked perfectly. I tend to stick to Adobe standard.
This camera with a very good IBIS would be the camera I have been waiting for all my life.
The Hybrid shooter and Mattias Burling are both into watches 😁
ikr? Plus their contents are quite reliable..
Great first impressions review.
Have you tried Capture One Express for Fujifilm, and if so did you find it to be any better then LR?
I haven't tried the express version of CaptureOne but the raw processing is far nicer than adobe's. CaptureOne is also the obvious choice if you ever tether (essential for commercial photography). CaptureOne also has more tools for editing than Lightroom as it's made to also sort of replace Photoshop- especially for color manipulation.
Lightroom on the other hand has better organizational tools, IMO and if you use presets (I'll judge you) then Lightroom has a lot more readily available. Lightroom, with its fewer tools is also a lot easier to navigate and learn if you're starting fresh.
I use all three of these programs personally as they all have strengths. For studio/commercial work- CaptureOne is miles ahead. For weddings, events, and organizing- Lightroom. Photoshop- I use any time Lightroom/CaptureOne is missing a feature I need or using the feature is too convoluted (most any time I want to do more than basic editing).
No I think Lightroom and Fuji works perfectly together. All the talk about them not working in Lightroom is a bit of a myth imo.
@@gearreallydoesntmatter it did take Adobe a while to support X-trans sensor cameras but that's solved now. I still think that CaptureOne renders Fuji RAW files better though. Cleaner images at high ISO, richer colors, a more linear response from shadow to highlight. You shouldn't see any difference between JPEGs though.
Both valuable tools. Both have their place.
@@user-zw6uk5gu8b Totally agree.
love the Alfa 159 at 4:10
Same feelings about RAW and Classic Neg almost impossible to use (even using C1 as picture processor)
Great vid, still not convinced by the screen design BUT the window is cool and the actual camera, shooting experience and results yep... Never gonna let me down
It's not gonna be for everyone. But luckily the XT3, XT30, XH1 should cover most bases :)
Will you be reviewing it?
@@gearreallydoesntmatter ye hopefully, loved my Pro1 and the 2 so it has to be done!
@@DamianBrown cool!
Hello ! Any chance of a long term review of x-pro3?
Hi! Thanks on for time for your amazing content. Sorry have you had the chance to try the OVF with the 18mm?, Seems that x-pro2 handles it in a much better way. that's the only holding my back to buy this camera.
No I haven't used the 18mm unfortunately. Only the 35mm and some adapted glass with a EF speed booster and some vintage Minolta and Pentax lenses.
Does anybody know offhand if the Fuji x pro2 video files can be read on Photoshop Express or Snapseed is there a Android mobile phone program that reads it?
I am thinking about selling my Sony Alpha R Mark I and getting the Fuji XT3 but I cant decide ;D I love the quality of the FF sensor but the XT3 is so much nicer in every other way...
I’m in the same situation, but I have the S mk1. Xp3 has my interest peaked because of the screen; I had an A65 that the screen tilted similar, but also flipped to be covered.
XP3, XT3, or just save the money and go all in one with an X100F. 🤷♂️
I love your reviews.. may I ask . What would be my first lens for this camera for beach shots?
Depends on you. I would get a 18 or 35.
I like your video Mattias. if you had the camera for a week how did you find AF in xpro3?
Its fine. Fast enough.
If you can only get two lens for the x-pro body. Which ones will you get?
I would love the flip down screen. But currently short of money ;-)
Hi Mattias，I might buy the xpro3 later (using xpro1 and EosR now). Before buying this, would like to get your review first. Do you have any idea when you can announce this ? Thanks.
Im afraid I won't be doing any review and no longer have the camera.
But you can checkout my review of the 35mm for more X-Pro3 samples, ruclips.net/video/kKRGY_qPoYA/видео.html
What lens you're using to shoot sample photo
Please do the video 5 reasons to buy 10 copies of X-E2S. Thank you.
nice picture of the alfa 159 ;)
I wonder if your dog knows yet that he (she?) is quite famous 👍🏻😉
She
Thank you Nishant Singh for your reply 👍🏻😉
So, Leica CL review then? Hugh Brownstone (three blind men and the elephant) seems to have fallen deeply for it.
100v has improvements should have been on xp3. Now I’m stumped as to just go w the simplicity of 100v or xp3 only for lenses! Opinion? seeing how you have worked w these and I haven’t!!
Can you tell the difference between full frame and crop?
I love the "classic negative"
Hi! I remember I start following your channel almost 7 years ago, with BMPCC. Can I ask for a favor? would you make a video about BMPCC (first gen) in 2019-2020? Is it a dead cam? Does Black magic still support it? Are you using it and if you got it today, how would you rig it? Thanks!
I was using the original micro earlier this year. Same sensor and it definitely is still good enough.
Nice watch. Longines military? I still have the Pro2 and thee Xt3. If I had spare change I'd buy this one, even though I don't "need" it.
Yes,a watch which concept goes good with the philosophy of the Xpro3 :)
the biggest question I've had since they announced it is does the X-Pro 3 give you a lot more than the X-Pro 2 which it apparently replaces or does it only give you a little more, if the latter is the case then I would think it's not really worth paying the extra money over an X-Pro 2.
Imo. The differences are physical. Either you want the new design or you dont. The image quality isn't going to be much to compare.
Hi Matthias, I know you don’t have a video about it but do you have some thoughts about the Fuji xt3 ?
Seems like a good camera. I've used it way to briefly to say.
Mattias Burling thanks :)
I guess I'll be sticking to my X-Pro 2
I always appreciate your videos, because your honesty and very well thought and balanced opinions.
This is the first time I cannot be fully agree with your comments in both on pros and cons of this camera. But, this camera brings that, a mix of feelings.
Personally, I think this was another missed shot by Fuji in terms of design, despite its incredible and undeniable features and capacity as a digital camera.
Very good video, as usual, and compliments for the excellent photos you made.
Have a great day!
Just curious, you don't agree with the cons, wouldn't you want more options?
@@gearreallydoesntmatter I've been a Fuji user since 2013 and the relation between its RAF (raw) files and Adobe has been no less than mediocre. So, for me it isn't strange that this camera (as of today) doesn't work as it should in Lr.
Regarding the price topic, I agree it could be a bit overpriced, not because the competition you showed in your video (which are clever options undoubtedly) but for the addition of ‘improvements’ and ‘gadgetry’ that isn't necessarily in correspondence with the mojo of this camera.
For instance, the rear panel showing jpeg profile which can be seen through the EVF or worst, the camera settings which are all available to the eyes in the top plate and lens.
Other, is the improvement of the OVF for normal focal lens, which is not the most used in street photography. This indicates to me, that Fuji wants to cover a wider array of uses for this camera but, having the XT-3 as a more versatile and best seller camera, it hasn't much sense to me bring trade off to a camera of this price.
Here is where Leica (which is oftentimes compared, unfortunately) excels with its philosophy of simplicity.
@@LuisGabriel_Curiojo All other Fujis works perfectly out of the box in Lightroom so this should to imo. Can't see how more options for the eye sensor could be a negative. Don't see the positive in removing the recording option. And the price is pretty steep imho.
@@gearreallydoesntmatter I understand you better now. I'm sorry if I failed to explain myself the first time. I agree with your cons (although not for the same reasons). But I get it, when you referred to Lr issue. As of today, it shouldn't happen but the algorithms are not always the same from camera to camera iterations (same sensor-processor combo) and Adobe - Fuji has a historical relation of delay in updating Lr. But you're right and this is a truly con for a camera of this price.
Is the ovf capable with the f1.4 lenses
Great video Mattias. I'm glad that you're enjoying the camera so far. I like the X-Pro3 and all, but I don't think it's a good enough camera for the price point. Imo the tilt down screen is the worst of both worlds. Not great for any serious video, awkward on taking stills, plus the back screen is hard to see in low light when using the classic mode.
Maybe it doesn't go far enough on the photography enthusiast for my taste especially when the X-T3 is just so good(that it may have killed the X-H series lol) and the X-Pro2 can be picked up for 1/3 of the X-Pro3's price. If it could stand out more as a modern Epson r-d1/Fuji's interpretation of the Nikon DF, then I'd praise the X-Pro3 to the end of time.
I got the dura silver preordered for 1699 from B&H cause I have a .edu email
Would you say that this camera seems to be a drastic upgrade over the x pro2 ? Or is it best to just save some money and get a used x pro2 ?
The differences is all in the displays. Let that be the decider.
Mattias Burling interesting? I’ll keep saving and thinking. Thank you ! Maybe we’ll get some news on the x100v while I’m saving that may sway me that way.
How do you like the XPRO3 for filming Mattias? :)
Not for pro video. But for casual video, travel and so on its fine with nice results.
Sexy camera but its not for everyone, lovely photos by the way.
Its not the Camera that's at fault, its lightroom. It just does not handle Fujifilm Raw files properly . Capture One for Fuji does.
Nope, Fujis fault but they have fixed it now. All other Fuji cameras worked fine, so did the X-pro3, so there where no reason for the new profile not to work other than Fuji being in a partnership with C1. Luckily Fuji finally got back in the game..
Have you ever tried the Sigma fp for photography? I've heard the colors are unique and amazing.
No physical shutter is the deal breaker for me.
@@gearreallydoesntmatter electronic only shutter for stills is horrible and really limits usability. The Sigma fp looks like a massive fail for me in every respect.
I wouldnt say its a fail in every respect. For video it seems very good.
@@gearreallydoesntmatter Thanks for your feedback!
isnt the camera basically made for shooting jpg without having to edit much in lightroom/edit anything at all?
Not more so than any other camera.
As always another great video, only thing I maybe don’t agree on is that a 2k camera should work with Lightroom out of the box. That’s up to Adobe to sort out it’s algorithms for it to work not Fuji. Capture One has no problems working with Fuji files. As does Exposure for instance. But I could be wrong in my assumptions. Anyway, keep making your great content. It’s always a “must see”when you bring out new videos.
I say Fuji needs to give Adobe what they need. Its the most commonly used software among photographers world wide.
Mattias Burling ah I get you. But why is it C1 is so on top of it and Adobe, the biggest imagining software developer, can’t get to speed? There’s a lot leaving Adobe for C1 because of this. However I’ve only a XPro1 and use Exposure. But I agree that a new camera should work with the latest software. Nikon traditionally never shared their data and everyone had to reverse engineer the data. It’s very dumb of camera companies to restrict it.
I haven't researched the issue at all, is it confirmed that Nc works in C1?
Mattias Burling I just looked up and C1 12.1.4 handles X-Pro3 I believe. But my original source, I had to think where I’d read it, was Patrick LaRoque. However I’d read it incorrectly! He says at time of testing Nov 12th there was no conversion available other than in camera. But he’s not experienced and issues with the new film emulation. Most of his blogs now are in the classic neg. He’s switched to C1 from LR.
However it’s interesting that you found issues in RAW conversion. This is first time I’ve seen or heard of such issues so you’ve got a good point nonetheless. Definitely something to be aware of. I’ll look out for more on this from forums too.
@@shurikenstars Ok because in my experience all fuji cameras including the xpro3 works perfectly in Lightroom. Accept for the one new picture profile.
Do you still use the x pro 3?