The defence don't stand a chance against the knowledgeable, friendly, precise, Irish doctor. Its making me almost feel sorry for the defence, almost but not quite!!!
Just because you are getting air through your vocal chords does not mean you are getting oxygen to your aveoli or co2 out of the bloodstream. It's called spO2, the overall amount of oxygen in the blood, and when that drops to low The body begins to die. If you haven't been in an ICU you likely don't understand death due to hypoxia is a process that can take minutes or even days. The oxygen remaining in the body gets shunted to crucial organs as the body slowly becomes overcome: using more oxygen to breathe than the lungs can replace The body slowly shuts down due to hypoxia and acidification (as CO2 builds up) of the muscles controlling the breathing start to fail, so that each breath is less effective than the last. That's why his last breaths were with his arms and fingers. Every other muscle was spent. He let the last air out of his lungs, cried out, and died as a result of the knees on his neck and back.
Let's be clear: even a person with NO drugs in his system, strong heart, and calm demeanor; would have died UNDER Derrick Chauvin (no pun intended) extreme "overt" conditions!
To be honest, Chauvin had a prior complaint of him choking a 14 year old teen to the point that the kid not only lost consciousness but started bleeding from the ears.
@@nodrama490 , yes it has. 1) Fentanyl causes decreased respiratory rate- Floyd's RR was normal. 2) Fentanyl works on the mu receptors in the medulla oblongata. Fentanyl OD leads to coma, then death. Floyd's death did not follow that path. Therefore the likely cause is hypoxia/anoxia from the knee on the neck and back , prone positon and handcuff restraints.
Oh yeah, that classic case of handcuffs causing death. Happens all to often. The man was a drug abuser. Swallowed his stash. OD’d. Let’s stop this nonsense making him some sort of martyr.
“And that’s going to effect blood flow.. in a person, right? It’s going to make the body work a little harder to get the blood to through the body?” “No, not really. Its not going to do that.” 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂
@@cranberrykay3876 lmao dude stop with your drug bullshit the doc said if he would've died from drugs overdose he would've gone in a comma before that never happened lmao
@Dancing Swords did you read anything I typed? This doctor that you believe is incapable of having person interest and lying. Said that what happen to George would kill ANYONE drugs or not. So, some youtubers did the same thing but a little worse and they lived.
Was this cut off early? Why wouldn't cross examination question use of Fentanyl in conjunction of lack of oxygen instead of just preexisting health conditions?
Your question negates itself. Operative word been"lack of oxygen" no matter what u combine it with fentanyl or anything else operative word "lack of oxygen" fentanyl did not go on his neck & cut off his oxygen an outside force cut off his oxygen an thats the problem here. Want to arrest him fine but where do you get off cutting someones oxygen supply??? Even in executions in prison they dont just cut your windpipe right?
Like why would you're respiratory rate be slower if your body is working HARDER to pump oxygen? You're heart would be beating faster, leading your respiratory rate to be increased, rather than decreased.
@@tjumok5186 did you ever think that the depleted levels of oxygen in his body, that maybe just maybe he literally used his last bit of fight, energy & oxygen to say this or you gon ignore that possibility to yall always some damn youtube experts but experts anothing
@@tjumok5186 i can tell you are not an expert and lack a little knowledge on the topic so let me try best to explain, when you take a deep breath and go under water there is oxygen in our body already and what happens when you run out of that oxygen we either have to breath (allowing your diaphragm or rib cage to expand and possibly drown underwater (but even though we lack oxygen try one last scream even though you under water it will happen) or we go up for air now take that analogy and now we have GF on the ground where the key is 3 big hard back officers each weighing 130lbs+ on top of you and the pavement their body weight alone is sinking you into the pavement pressing your chest and diaphragm against the hard pavement, so that alone is preventing GF's rib cage and diaphragm from expanding therefore affecting his breathing, now CHAUVIN deserves the full extent of the law thrown at him because he ignored the advice from his colleagues to turn him on the side, and when shit really hit the fan is when the colleague said he's passing out and his general position never changed even after the departments policy is that once you detain or arrest they are in your care, anything happen to them you are responsible anyways back to the point against the hard pavement and your diaphragm & rib cage cant expand from the front because the pavement is preventing this, from the left side because the offers right knee is kicked in your side with pressure, your back because is over 250 lbs on it that leaves one place the right side of your stomach to expand, how long do you think someone can survive for with only being able to intake 5-10%(my estimate) of the oxygen that they are regularly intaking with no pressure, the study says you can lose consciousness after 30-180 seconds, make a calculated guess how long that extends to on a very minute amount of oxygen. i await your professional opinion
Dispute this “Unless you're actively being attacked, release your choke hold after 10 seconds. 15 seconds is the maximum amount of time that you can apply pressure to the neck without risking permanent damage. If you've correctly applied pressure to the neck's major arteries, your opponent should go limp after 5-9 seconds.” 😂 HE LASTED MORE than 1 minute!
This guy has no idea what he’s talking about the minute he goes out of his field (pulmonary): He said “if the coronary artery is in a situation that would affect his breathing, he would be complaining of chest pain”. He neglects the fact that george was under the influence of fentanyl and meth and he’ll feel no pain. Also fentanyl affect the respiratory rate (causing respiratory depression) therefore his rate will not increase. He’s acting smart by slicing each thought but he forgets that he’s dealing with a complex intertwined case here. He’s bluffing big time
@@jeffreyturner2791 the trachea is not compressible and if we assume that the pressure on the neck compromised his airway, one expects tracheal signs: stridor or hoarseness, neither one was noticed on george
@@biloz2988 compressed with excessive force, combined with concrete pressure, (at the right spot) would have killed John Cena! When you get a chance, place your knees on concrete and feel the pressure! After one minute, your knees gonna hurt like a MF! Now imagine a face in that situation! CONCRETE!!!
All doubters! Find any cement, concrete, or just any street; place your knees on the pavement for 10 or 15 seconds! Then tell me your knees don't hurt like hell! My point is: rather his knee was on his back, shoulder, or hard head - GEORGE FACE WAS IN THE PAVEMENT WITH CHAUVIN ON TOP OF HIM!! The 🌎 earth's gravity pushing up to meet Chauvin's pressure! Inhumane!
For those who asked for more explanations of my initial comment: Coronary stenosis can be asymptomatic or can cause angina pectoris (squeezing chest pain or pressure) and goes away in a few minutes, or can last longer and then it will reflect heart ischemia (damage due to decreased circulation to part of the heart) or a heart attack or, if much prolonged and affects a large part of the heart, cardiogenic shock. Sometimes coronary stenosis can cause sudden death (a clot closing a major artery to the heart). This expert said that coronary stenosis causes chest pain and increased respiratory rate. You see how superficial he is ? That’s why I said he’s out of that realm
The only thing that was interesting that I learned from this massively bias witness was that maybe we should consider charging the paramedics of negligence. Might as well witch hunt as many as we can.
@@cherylseebreth328 But all those affects are exactly what would happen for fentanyl OD. His arguments that it was not fentanyl was his breathing rate was not low enough. Would resisting arrest just moments before increase heart rate and breathing. It’s hard to imagine they tell their fentanyl subjects they are observing to reach their consensus and write in their journals “OK, get up out of your stupor and start fighting these people. We want to get a full scope for our analysis.” They would be jailed for killing all their subjects.
@@cherylseebreth328 You can’t have it both ways. If you argue that George died from non-fentanyl induced asphyxiation, then he is going to experience “air hunger”. So, how did George experience air hunger. He said he couldn’t breathe. You have got to be kidding me. Now, if you argue that George died from a fentanyl OD, than he most likely will not experience air hunger. Air hunger is crazy. It’s when someone panics. You will fight like crazy to get air. You will fight like your life depended on it, because it does. Again, their argument for air hunger was “I can’t breathe”. I don’t buy it. Search “Ramsey County sheriff” and watch the video with the yellow words in screen shot. Something to do with “you ain’t seen excessive...”. At approximately 4:45, you will see the panic from air hunger. He literally lifts up the nerd cop off the ground. Search “crowder knee ...” and watch crowder reproduce the knee on the neck. The bottom line is the book worms are trying to convince us the there is a completely different way to die that looks like the subject just falls asleep just before normal breathing, they literally showed him breathing, and was due to non-fentanyl asphyxiation. Classic case of taking the most damming evidence to state and presenting it to the jurors before the defense can show it and attaching a book worm to it that says “pay no attention to what is actually going on, but rather what I tell you what’s going on”
This so called “expert” makes obvious mistakes when he tries to explain coronary stenosis !!! It’s not his realm. He made a huge mistake around “normal respiratory rate” and he’s going around different scenario twisting each to reinforce this point.
@@AfricanMilkTree I did and his statements testify to his level. He’s paid “expert”, and there are hundreds of experts who can testify to the unkosherness of his arguments. I gave you some
His face when he said “no it doesn’t....” was priceless!
He "pancaked" the defense every damned time. 👏
Did it keep going quiet so we wouldn't hear the attorney say "Oh shit!" to every answer he got?
Mr. Nelson give it up. Ain’tno scooting around Dr. Tobin. This man has studied his craft almost 50 years.
Lmfo..he tried to tell a DOCTOR how the BODY WORKS and got CRUSHED 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The doctor thinks you die after not breathing for 10 seconds or losing consciousness, let that sink in.
Yea... this wasnt Nelson's best day to say the least
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol this doctor just said having a blood clot doesn’t make the body work harder..... he’s an idiot
@@jasonkelley9072 and so are you for thinking that you know better than a doctor with over 40 years of experience.
The defence don't stand a chance against the knowledgeable, friendly, precise, Irish doctor. Its making me almost feel sorry for the defence, almost but not quite!!!
Just because you are getting air through your vocal chords does not mean you are getting oxygen to your aveoli or co2 out of the bloodstream. It's called spO2, the overall amount of oxygen in the blood, and when that drops to low The body begins to die. If you haven't been in an ICU you likely don't understand death due to hypoxia is a process that can take minutes or even days. The oxygen remaining in the body gets shunted to crucial organs as the body slowly becomes overcome: using more oxygen to breathe than the lungs can replace The body slowly shuts down due to hypoxia and acidification (as CO2 builds up) of the muscles controlling the breathing start to fail, so that each breath is less effective than the last. That's why his last breaths were with his arms and fingers. Every other muscle was spent. He let the last air out of his lungs, cried out, and died as a result of the knees on his neck and back.
The Defense team was crushed by Dr Tobin... No further questions
Let's be clear: even a person with NO drugs in his system, strong heart, and calm demeanor; would have died UNDER Derrick Chauvin
(no pun intended) extreme "overt" conditions!
To be honest, Chauvin had a prior complaint of him choking a 14 year old teen to the point that the kid not only lost consciousness but started bleeding from the ears.
@@CatOfTiktok7 If you're serious, (and I believe you are) that's horrible! I'm so glad he was found guilty! He's a horrible man!
Did he prove that , or did he just claim that . ? I have some questions about the things he said , and how he stated them. 😏
Hence I love the Irish ☘️ they’re exceptionally honest
That's it. Drug overdose defense is completely eradicated by this testimony.
it hasnt yet unfortunatley
Because he was paid by the prosecution
@@nodrama490 , yes it has. 1) Fentanyl causes decreased respiratory rate- Floyd's RR was normal. 2) Fentanyl works on the mu receptors in the medulla oblongata. Fentanyl OD leads to coma, then death. Floyd's death did not follow that path. Therefore the likely cause is hypoxia/anoxia from the knee on the neck and back , prone positon and handcuff restraints.
@@biloz2988 he was not paid.
Oh yeah, that classic case of handcuffs causing death. Happens all to often. The man was a drug abuser. Swallowed his stash. OD’d. Let’s stop this nonsense making him some sort of martyr.
This defendant was waiting for medicals because that was his only stand. Un fortunately they keep saying opposite what he expected
“And that’s going to effect blood flow.. in a person, right? It’s going to make the body work a little harder to get the blood to through the body?”
“No, not really. Its not going to do that.”
🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂
So you think drugs don’t effect blood flow? Smh 🤦🏾♂️ you kids really need better education both book and mental.
@@cranberrykay3876 lmao dude stop with your drug bullshit the doc said if he would've died from drugs overdose he would've gone in a comma before that never happened lmao
@Dancing Swords and yet a bunch of dudes on RUclips proved him wrong, and lived when this wannabe said NO one would have survived that.
@Dancing Swords did you read anything I typed? This doctor that you believe is incapable of having person interest and lying. Said that what happen to George would kill ANYONE drugs or not. So, some youtubers did the same thing but a little worse and they lived.
@Dancing Swords oh let me guess it’s illegitimate because you don’t like them? Dude I’m sure anyone would have lived that.
Knowledge is the best weapon
Dr. Tobin is brilliant! Don’t mess with him Nelson!
Lmfaooooo
When did the defence decide to help the prosecution?
Destroyed !!!!
Destroyed😂😂😂😂😂
Was this cut off early? Why wouldn't cross examination question use of Fentanyl in conjunction of lack of oxygen instead of just preexisting health conditions?
Your question negates itself. Operative word been"lack of oxygen" no matter what u combine it with fentanyl or anything else operative word "lack of oxygen" fentanyl did not go on his neck & cut off his oxygen an outside force cut off his oxygen an thats the problem here. Want to arrest him fine but where do you get off cutting someones oxygen supply??? Even in executions in prison they dont just cut your windpipe right?
@@nickisunderee7804 - I watched the whole thing somewhere else. They did ask about it.
Like why would you're respiratory rate be slower if your body is working HARDER to pump oxygen? You're heart would be beating faster, leading your respiratory rate to be increased, rather than decreased.
Like did he pay attention in anatomy whatsoever?
The best smoke screen the prosecution presented!
Alright who's running the mics?
Generally speaking : you are a clown by taking this case. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
He died crying scared shouting with his very last breath for his mother, those police heard that and did nothing no care what so ever
They did not see him as a person. That is why
@@tjumok5186 did you ever think that the depleted levels of oxygen in his body, that maybe just maybe he literally used his last bit of fight, energy & oxygen to say this
or you gon ignore that possibility to
yall always some damn youtube experts but experts anothing
@@tjumok5186 i can tell you are not an expert and lack a little knowledge on the topic so let me try best to explain, when you take a deep breath and go under water there is oxygen in our body already and what happens when you run out of that oxygen we either have to breath (allowing your diaphragm or rib cage to expand and possibly drown underwater (but even though we lack oxygen try one last scream even though you under water it will happen) or we go up for air
now take that analogy and now we have GF on the ground where the key is 3 big hard back officers each weighing 130lbs+ on top of you and the pavement their body weight alone is sinking you into the pavement pressing your chest and diaphragm against the hard pavement, so that alone is preventing GF's rib cage and diaphragm from expanding therefore affecting his breathing, now CHAUVIN deserves the full extent of the law thrown at him because he ignored the advice from his colleagues to turn him on the side, and when shit really hit the fan is when the colleague said he's passing out and his general position never changed even after the departments policy is that once you detain or arrest they are in your care, anything happen to them you are responsible
anyways back to the point against the hard pavement and your diaphragm & rib cage cant expand from the front because the pavement is preventing this, from the left side because the offers right knee is kicked in your side with pressure, your back because is over 250 lbs on it that leaves one place the right side of your stomach to expand, how long do you think someone can survive for with only being able to intake 5-10%(my estimate) of the oxygen that they are regularly intaking with no pressure, the study says you can lose consciousness after 30-180 seconds, make a calculated guess how long that extends to on a very minute amount of oxygen.
i await your professional opinion
All saying he can’t breathe and he died while a cop is on him, nun hard about that to understand about that, just let the justice system deal with it
Dispute this
“Unless you're actively being attacked, release your choke hold after 10 seconds. 15 seconds is the maximum amount of time that you can apply pressure to the neck without risking permanent damage. If you've correctly applied pressure to the neck's major arteries, your opponent should go limp after 5-9 seconds.” 😂
HE LASTED MORE than 1 minute!
The defense needs a good internist to rebut this guy bec defense needs a well rounded doctor to tackle all the issues not only a pulmonologist
This guy has no idea what he’s talking about the minute he goes out of his field (pulmonary):
He said “if the coronary artery is in a situation that would affect his breathing, he would be complaining of chest pain”. He neglects the fact that george was under the influence of fentanyl and meth and he’ll feel no pain. Also fentanyl affect the respiratory rate (causing respiratory depression) therefore his rate will not increase.
He’s acting smart by slicing each thought but he forgets that he’s dealing with a complex intertwined case here.
He’s bluffing big time
Even if a man was Fit and all, instead of under the drug fentanyl that same individual would have died... by excessive Foot on the Neck!
@@jeffreyturner2791 the trachea is not compressible and if we assume that the pressure on the neck compromised his airway, one expects tracheal signs: stridor or hoarseness, neither one was noticed on george
@@biloz2988 compressed with excessive force, combined with concrete pressure, (at the right spot) would have killed John Cena!
When you get a chance, place your knees on concrete and feel the pressure! After one minute, your knees gonna hurt like a MF! Now imagine a face in that situation! CONCRETE!!!
All doubters! Find any cement, concrete, or just any street; place your knees on the pavement for 10 or 15 seconds! Then tell me your knees don't hurt like hell!
My point is: rather his knee was on his back, shoulder, or hard head - GEORGE FACE WAS IN THE PAVEMENT WITH CHAUVIN ON TOP OF HIM!!
The 🌎 earth's gravity pushing up to meet Chauvin's pressure! Inhumane!
@@jeffreyturner2791 agree for sure
For those who asked for more explanations of my initial comment:
Coronary stenosis can be asymptomatic or can cause angina pectoris (squeezing chest pain or pressure) and goes away in a few minutes, or can last longer and then it will reflect heart ischemia (damage due to decreased circulation to part of the heart) or a heart attack or, if much prolonged and affects a large part of the heart, cardiogenic shock. Sometimes coronary stenosis can cause sudden death (a clot closing a major artery to the heart).
This expert said that coronary stenosis causes chest pain and increased respiratory rate. You see how superficial he is ? That’s why I said he’s out of that realm
We heard that so they heard that
he is so desperate. You are damned lawyer and trying teach expert pulmonologist how lungs work. it is bullshit what we re watching
hahahah
Hahahah yes! Gold
The only thing that was interesting that I learned from this massively bias witness was that maybe we should consider charging the paramedics of negligence. Might as well witch hunt as many as we can.
Are you high? Maybe fentanyl
That's all you got? Your shoes are deep in it shoemaker.
@@cherylseebreth328 not even close.
@@cherylseebreth328 But all those affects are exactly what would happen for fentanyl OD. His arguments that it was not fentanyl was his breathing rate was not low enough. Would resisting arrest just moments before increase heart rate and breathing. It’s hard to imagine they tell their fentanyl subjects they are observing to reach their consensus and write in their journals “OK, get up out of your stupor and start fighting these people. We want to get a full scope for our analysis.” They would be jailed for killing all their subjects.
@@cherylseebreth328 You can’t have it both ways. If you argue that George died from non-fentanyl induced asphyxiation, then he is going to experience “air hunger”. So, how did George experience air hunger. He said he couldn’t breathe. You have got to be kidding me. Now, if you argue that George died from a fentanyl OD, than he most likely will not experience air hunger. Air hunger is crazy. It’s when someone panics. You will fight like crazy to get air. You will fight like your life depended on it, because it does. Again, their argument for air hunger was “I can’t breathe”. I don’t buy it.
Search “Ramsey County sheriff” and watch the video with the yellow words in screen shot. Something to do with “you ain’t seen excessive...”. At approximately 4:45, you will see the panic from air hunger. He literally lifts up the nerd cop off the ground. Search “crowder knee ...” and watch crowder reproduce the knee on the neck. The bottom line is the book worms are trying to convince us the there is a completely different way to die that looks like the subject just falls asleep just before normal breathing, they literally showed him breathing, and was due to non-fentanyl asphyxiation. Classic case of taking the most damming evidence to state and presenting it to the jurors before the defense can show it and attaching a book worm to it that says “pay no attention to what is actually going on, but rather what I tell you what’s going on”
So the defense is he’s stupid?
Nope. The man is just singing for his supper.
This so called “expert” makes obvious mistakes when he tries to explain coronary stenosis !!! It’s not his realm.
He made a huge mistake around “normal respiratory rate” and he’s going around different scenario twisting each to reinforce this point.
Maybe you should check his qualifications
99.9% sure he's more qualified than bilo Z from youtube.
@@danieladams1752 I'm 100% sure
You have a degree from the university of youtube?
@@AfricanMilkTree I did and his statements testify to his level. He’s paid “expert”, and there are hundreds of experts who can testify to the unkosherness of his arguments. I gave you some