I mean, it’s pretty realistic. Going from ice delivery boy living with trolls, to king consort is both a big jump in responsibilities, and how he would have to adapt to it, he would have to change certain aspects and do things he isn’t used to doing or know how to do because he isn’t used or has anything to do with royal duties and how to be a good ruler. He’d be stressed and probably dislike, no, HATE, being king due to what it truly holds and the image he’d have to uphold and keep, for arendelle to prosper properly. He’d have to change, not be himself, if anything, he’d have to be the opposite of how he really is in certain situations or circumstances as he’s king which holds a lot of pressure and the need of keeping up images and power. It wouldn’t be good or fit someone with Kristoffs personality/nature.
Well, nobody told him to fall in love with a princess....AND tried to engage her. What was he thinking? That he'd just sit on the couch all day as a trophy husband?
@@norahoghroro1704That was kinda the point, he wouldn’t have wanted that. As non royalty with little to no education, king consort is all he would be. King consort is another name for trophy husband. He did manual labor and sold ice, he wouldn’t have liked sitting back and doing nothing while Anna ruled her kingdom, consorts only job usually was babymaking. This is basically the same whether it was a king or queen consort, he isn’t qualified to rule so his only job would be home making duties and helping with producing an heir. I wish the scene was included, because it would have added depth to his character. He loves Anna, but he misses his work.
@@lxttiedxll959AND, not only would he be a trophy husband, he would also be forced to be emotionless, cruel, cold, and calculated infront of nobles-which would be difficult as he was used to not being payed any attention-, thinking SPECIFICALLY for the ‘greater good’ of the kingdom, something he has CLEARLY never done before, as he was a mere ice-harvester at a young age, and besides, he only wanted to marry Anna, n̲o̲t̲ to be the prince-consort to Anna and have the weight of an kingdom placed on his shoulders, something he wouldn’t have handled well, regardless emotionally or mentally.
Ya, this is why I always found that making Elsa the fifth element was a bad idea. Not only it does not make sense. (Sorry but ice is just hard water and no matter how many times they tried to spin it to make sense it did not…. It got to the point they gave up). If Anna had been the fifth element it would have made much more sense and made the story better. Cause let’s face it, even Anna was not trained or anything to be ruler. She was a much more outdoor person and could have adapted better to a life outside of being royal and with Kristoff there it would have solved this issue…. And it just makes sense to make Anna the fifth element instead of Elsa and having Anna and Kristoff live in the woods while Elsa remained queen. But ya….. you can tell that the people did not get time to think this through and it was forced…. Even the people who made the movie admitted that.
I personally didn't think the first movie was bad I just hated the songs and the twist villain everything else was fine with me THIS would have made the second movie alot more enjoyable for me it makes sense if Kristoff wasn't happy as Prince
@@SayoriChan640I really hope Disney makes this happen where Elsa ends up with Honeymaren, and that they don’t just introduce a random boy out of nowhere. But who knows if she’s even going to get a love interest because Elsa gives off vibes that she’d probably never marry because she just wants freedom.
Well. To be fair regarding Kristoff. He's been an Ice Delivery person for years. Collecting ice, and delivering it is all he's known. Going from all he's known, to having to change himself to fit the royal life and stature, he'd have to stop being himself, when in meetings with other royals. Added to the fact that there would be many royals who don't approve of his new royal status. We'll just have to wait and see how he handles his new duties in the 3rd Frozen Film.
There was also a deleted scene in the begining when kristoff does propose and its such a cute song. I wouldve loved that in, but not the lieing part. I hate when movies give the audience knowledge to a lie knowing its going to blow up in their face.
It makes complete sense given his background. Ive never been a ruler of a kingdom but ive been a nobody whose been unwillingly thrusted into a position of being a highly regarded somebody and its absolutely terrifying if you are not prepared
He would be King Consort. He wouldn't have real power over Arendelle but still have pretty big responsibilities and an imagen to project to the kingdom. An example of this could be the british royal family, with Kate Middleton and Princess Diana.
Ya and even if he does not have power. He will be expected to act like a royal, there will be no more ice delivery, no more wearing the clothes he wants, everything he does is monitored and don’t get me started on how the consorts are always to blame for what happens to go wrong. Both he and Anna will be miserable.
Fun fact kristoff’s design was originally supposed to be Flynn riders but Flynn’s was changed to the one he has now and his old one was recycled and used as krisstoff’s
But Kristoff's whole sub plot was gathering the courage to propose to Anna. I feel like if this scene was included not only would it completely change the sub plot but it sounds like it would be a big enough conflict that it would completely distract from the main plot of the movie. Just my thoughts though.
This was actually part of the original storyline where he proposes at the beginning of the film but struggles with thinking he’s a good enough lord in arendellian high society and worries he won’t be a good king. This is also part of the same original plot that would’ve had arendelle destroyed and rebuilt in both arendellian and the people of the forest (I forget their name) styles.
This would have given Kristoff's character a lot more meaning in the second movie (close to his significance in the first film). It would have helped promote the fact that men/boys are allowed to voice their fears and concerns as well. In my opinion they did him dirty. They may have just cut him from the entire second movie. It wouldn't have been different at all without him 😢
I wouldn't have minded seeing a seen similar to this, of course without all the attempted drowning, in Frozen 2. It would show that he's unsure of his role but he loves Anna on it and is willing to try for her, no matter how uncomfortable he is
If Arendelle is like most monarchies, he would never become king, or not have the title anyway. He would have duty’s, yes, but he would never officially be king, even if people consider him to be. In a typical monarchy, like Great Britain, the crown gets passed around based on the royal blood. So if a king or queen dies, the new ruler is normally the oldest child. That's why Elsa becomes Queen. Her parents died, So when she's of age, she ascends to the throne; she's now the oldest blood relative. Although many people consider every King to have a queen and vice versa, that's not usually the way it works. The one who possesses the royal blood is called the monarch; that's the one who's in charge. Their partner then is known as their royal consort and are in no way in line for the throne. For example, the British line of succession. Phillip wasn’t even in the top 50 when it came to waiting in line for the throne. Neither Hans (who wanted to be king) or Kristoff would ever get the title of king. Just like a deck of cards, the royal consort can't have a title that beats the actual monarch. The monarch is the higher title. So I don’t even know if Kristoff would get a title or what his would be. But I do know that had Hans married Anna, he would always have to remain Prince Hans: royal consort to Queen Anna. Better than just being a prince and 13th in-line? Yes. But still not the king. It's actually the same thing Britain, and a lot of monarchy’s do. When Queen Elizabeth was the reigning monarch, her husband Prince Philip would always be just that. Prince. And which Charles being king and Camilla being the queen consort. (Although most people just call her queen) So you see, the crown would go to literally anyone with a drop of blood related to these two and Hans has zero Arenedellian blood, and Kristoff, unless there’s a plot twist where he is a royals long lost son, neither of them would be king. A Prince or a similar title? Yes. King? No.
Didn’t he only propose to Anna at the _end_ of the movie? It would’ve been real cocky of him to say he doesn’t want to be king _before_ even proposing to her and having her say yes.
That actually makes big sense. It would represent his character much better than the bullshit they ended up doin with his personality in the second movie
Honestly, many of these deleted scenes are better than the actual movie itself. I heard, they changed the script a lot to make it more kids - friendly, and it is just sad, because kids didn't even like Frozen 2 that much at the end and fans like me were disappointed in the sequel too
Although this would be kinda(very) cool to see, I think all Disney movies are mostly targeted for a younger audience. That doesn’t mean older people can’t watch them though! The horse attempting drowning Kristof and all that emotional build up might be a bit too much for children. Stay safe everyone.
I never agreed with the idea of Anna being queen in the first place. No matter how hard I try, I just can't imagine her in a throne upholding royal duties.
You’re not alone. A lot of people feel the same way, in truth Anna being the fifth element and staying in the woods with Kristoff makes a lot more sense than Elsa being one and runner away from her responsibility….. again….
Reading about the behind the scenes, seeing the deleted storyboards/animates, and watching that making of Frozen 2 documentary on Disney+ there was many changes to the story and how it was originally going to play out that was scrapped for the final movie version we saw (this is common in books, comics, movies, and TV creations though I'm always fascinated by the "what uf/what was" in story making). Frozen (1st movie of the franchise) had changes to it's story TONS of times till the final version we saw. Some of the ideas they had for Frozen 2 that was ultimately scrapped was that Kristoff was going to propose early in the movie (and even had a full song made for that part). However the situations of the royal customs, culture, thier jobs, and overall aspects beyond Anna's and Kristoff's control would become factors that despite the two loving each other truly the wedding was going to be called off by the end. Other factors I read that was going to happen was all was going to literally die in the film and not be resurrected (that scene where the wind spirit takes essentially Olaf's ashes / snow and then drop the flower petals is equivalent to throwing flowers on a grave), Allendale was truly going to be destroyed, and the fate of Elsa unknown but possibly also gone. Anna would become Queen, will have to unite the two peoples (fighting also negative false propaganda/history that was believed by Arendelle) together, and have to build from scratch a new kingdom alone. Anne would be at her most painful and companionless yet for others be a wise ruler & builder. These ideas however was cut and I can see or image why even though I find them fascinating to think about. The creators knew many that watched as kids Frozen 1 was getting older and possibly wanted to make darker/deeper/mature themes/storylines in turn. Now with Frozen 3 (and maybe 4 based on recent news indicating possible a two parter like Across the Spider-Verse was) it's possible some past ideas could be making a return amoung other many possibilities that could happen.
Honestly, it makes a lot of sense. He was raised by trolls his whole life and was really only known for collecting and delivering ice. It would’ve been disappointing but at the same time made the movie a lot better
Yes. For to romantic leads to be vulnerable with eachother in a disney film is incredibly rare. I would love to see a plot point where the love interest admits to something that could damage their relationship.
Not gonna lie it would totally makes sense of his character Because from him jumping from an ice delivery boy to a king/Prince consort is a huge Responsibility and he probably doesn’t even know all that stuff Because he not a Royal Like Anna is it wouldn’t really fit his character especially the stuff that he have to do Because royalty is not a joke They should have kept that idea
Uh, wouldn't he technically not be a king? Bc prince Philip isn't a king, well wasn't a king🤧 but the queen was still a queen. So would Kristoff technically not be king???- (I really don't know I'm just guessing from the tiny bit of knowledge I have in my brain 🤧💀-)
Since he's not of royal blood therefore not royalty the best he could do is probably a royal consort or the queen's consort. Bottom line, he's probably not gonna be a king but a consort.
I think they wanted to focus on the proposal so they cut it. On one hand I feel like putting that in would distract from the whole proposal situation, but I also feel like it’s what would fit his character. Maybe they can just add that in Frozen 3 or some spinoff where he’s already king and hates it. If can be revealed that he felt neutral about it and tolerated it because he liked Anna, but it was just really adding a lot of stress onto him
Just because Anna is Queen doesn’t mean that he will be King. I live in a country that has a royal family and someone who has married into the family can never be king they will be a prince married to the queen. King is higher rank than a Queen that’s why the husband will be a prince.
I mean, it definitely makes sense for his character, but it kind of doesn’t fit what his arch became, which was more about his fears in inadequacy and that Anna is going to forget about him. He remedies this in his song where he comes to the conclusion that he just needs to trust in her and her love for him, and be patient. Also, Anna doesn't find out she's going to be queen till the end of the movie, so this feels like more of a 3rd movie thing where now Kristoff is dealing with the strains of being King. But then again, he doesn't seem to be seen as the one in charge, so idk if he's going to have to do much apart from support Anna. Maybe it'll be about boundaries instead. Kristoff is all for supporting Anna, but the royal life is stiffling and he doesn't know how to handle things or talk about it. Then it ends with Kristoff and Anna finding proper work/life balance.
Yes but no, I love the ending we got and what really sucks is the one the deleted scenes they cut was where at the end of the movie or the sisters reunite, Elsa uses her powers to show Anna that their parents wanted Anna to take care of arrendelle because “she has a love that could hold up the world.”
I think they should have done this but Elsa was in kristoffs place it would have made more sense why it was easy for Elsa to leave her kingdom showing she loves her people but not her role still fearing that someone might still try to kill her for her magic
honestly? would have been interesting if Anna had to make the choice between the crown of the man she loves. would also be interesting if Elsa had to make the choice to live for herself for once, or continue putting Anna first (keep the crown and be miserable by putting Anna first, or give Anna the crown and be free).
I think it would be a good plot. So far both movie has been focus on mostly elsa and her powers. Now that its answered, i would be delighted it the third movie would be focus on anna and kristoff now as a newly engaged couple and newly assigned royals of arendelle. I think anna would be in the same position as kristoff, being unprepared for the sudden change. And while anna herself is royalty from the beginning, i dont think she had that much experience and responsibilities as much like elsa since elsa was the heir. Anna from start to the end of the first movie seems to be carefree and isolated, completely oblivious to how hard responsibilities are as royals. I would love to see how anna would deal with other people not agreeing with her decision despite being queen. I can see anna the type to want to please people to accept her so i want to see how she would come to accept she cant please everyone.
Frozen 3: Kristoff learns the way of the Royal, there will be drama about him still wanting to work, but since he is king it's unnecessary, he's devoted, ambitious and stubborn to keep trying to work, because that's all he knew to survive, Anna has a deep conversation with him, telling him that it's okay to work, but the way he forces it on himself is unhealthy, she knows about his past and the trauma because of it, and with all the events that had happened, and Kristoff learns to relax and let others help him too
It would've made sense if they had gone with the original idea, because originally kristoff was struggling to ask Anna to marry him because he wasn't sure if he could handle being a king or prince but they scrapped the idea in the end
Actually, he wouldn’t be king. He would be Prince consort if it works the same way as it works in England, but if it works differently, then I don’t know.😅
I mean this actually make sense, Kris wasn’t a “Royal” from the beginning, he’s just a common ice dealer with his best animal friend that living freely and wildly in nature, I would say he love Anna for heart, but he prob can’t really get used to become a King…if he can’t even like a formal suit how y’all expecting him liking the Royal life he don’t want to?
I would like for them to add this in frozen 3 Intead of frozen 2 cuz he wanted to marry Anna in the 2th movie but this seems cool! Wonder if they will ever add this tho 🧐it would also give deployment in their relationship and kistofs character and character re scrap for a queen for Anna
I think this would make sense in the 3rd one, since Anna's queen now and they're engaged. Unless Elsa gave up the throne significantly earlier in the 2nd movie, I can't see how it would have fit very well in Frozen II
I think it should have been in the movie relationship are not easy and sometimes we don’t want the same things as our partner the key is we find a good middle ground where everyone is happy
It makes sense. I mean, he’s not really royalty, ya know?
Yeah but if u marry royalty, u have to get used to it too😂😂like irl kate married to william something like that
Actually, we don't know who he really is.
Neither is Eugene in tangled but I don't think he minds being in the royal family
@@handley2645mhHe was an ice delivery person. Not apart of royalty-
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I mean, it’s pretty realistic. Going from ice delivery boy living with trolls, to king consort is both a big jump in responsibilities, and how he would have to adapt to it, he would have to change certain aspects and do things he isn’t used to doing or know how to do because he isn’t used or has anything to do with royal duties and how to be a good ruler. He’d be stressed and probably dislike, no, HATE, being king due to what it truly holds and the image he’d have to uphold and keep, for arendelle to prosper properly. He’d have to change, not be himself, if anything, he’d have to be the opposite of how he really is in certain situations or circumstances as he’s king which holds a lot of pressure and the need of keeping up images and power. It wouldn’t be good or fit someone with Kristoffs personality/nature.
Well, nobody told him to fall in love with a princess....AND tried to engage her. What was he thinking? That he'd just sit on the couch all day as a trophy husband?
@@norahoghroro1704it's not like you can control how your heart feels. The heart wants what it wants.
@@norahoghroro1704That was kinda the point, he wouldn’t have wanted that. As non royalty with little to no education, king consort is all he would be. King consort is another name for trophy husband. He did manual labor and sold ice, he wouldn’t have liked sitting back and doing nothing while Anna ruled her kingdom, consorts only job usually was babymaking. This is basically the same whether it was a king or queen consort, he isn’t qualified to rule so his only job would be home making duties and helping with producing an heir. I wish the scene was included, because it would have added depth to his character. He loves Anna, but he misses his work.
@@lxttiedxll959AND, not only would he be a trophy husband, he would also be forced to be emotionless, cruel, cold, and calculated infront of nobles-which would be difficult as he was used to not being payed any attention-, thinking SPECIFICALLY for the ‘greater good’ of the kingdom, something he has CLEARLY never done before, as he was a mere ice-harvester at a young age, and besides, he only wanted to marry Anna, n̲o̲t̲ to be the prince-consort to Anna and have the weight of an kingdom placed on his shoulders, something he wouldn’t have handled well, regardless emotionally or mentally.
Ya, this is why I always found that making Elsa the fifth element was a bad idea.
Not only it does not make sense. (Sorry but ice is just hard water and no matter how many times they tried to spin it to make sense it did not…. It got to the point they gave up).
If Anna had been the fifth element it would have made much more sense and made the story better. Cause let’s face it, even Anna was not trained or anything to be ruler. She was a much more outdoor person and could have adapted better to a life outside of being royal and with Kristoff there it would have solved this issue….
And it just makes sense to make Anna the fifth element instead of Elsa and having Anna and Kristoff live in the woods while Elsa remained queen. But ya….. you can tell that the people did not get time to think this through and it was forced…. Even the people who made the movie admitted that.
Would have made the movie 5 times better
FR it would be ✨✨D R A M A T I C✨✨
Maybe we're gonna see it in Frozen 3
I personally didn't think the first movie was bad I just hated the songs and the twist villain everything else was fine with me
THIS would have made the second movie alot more enjoyable for me it makes sense if Kristoff wasn't happy as Prince
Oh apparently Elsa is rumored to be lesbian in the third movie
@@SayoriChan640I really hope Disney makes this happen where Elsa ends up with Honeymaren, and that they don’t just introduce a random boy out of nowhere. But who knows if she’s even going to get a love interest because Elsa gives off vibes that she’d probably never marry because she just wants freedom.
I think there gonna add this scene in frozen 3 since anna and kristoff are engaged now but just change it up a little bit
Probably. And after a few years, maybe they'll be married and have kids of their own
Yeah, he wouldn't have become king unless this was after Elsa gave up the throne at the end of the movie, it would make more sense in the 3rd one
Well. To be fair regarding Kristoff. He's been an Ice Delivery person for years. Collecting ice, and delivering it is all he's known.
Going from all he's known, to having to change himself to fit the royal life and stature, he'd have to stop being himself, when in meetings with other royals.
Added to the fact that there would be many royals who don't approve of his new royal status.
We'll just have to wait and see how he handles his new duties in the 3rd Frozen Film.
Have they confirmed the third movie?
@@sanjanaakula9137yeahhhh
Yea
Oh cool Thanks!
@@sanjanaakula9137 they are officially working on it, but that's all we know at this point.
It would've been nice if kristoff got more development.
It would make soooo much sense.
There was also a deleted scene in the begining when kristoff does propose and its such a cute song. I wouldve loved that in, but not the lieing part. I hate when movies give the audience knowledge to a lie knowing its going to blow up in their face.
It makes complete sense given his background. Ive never been a ruler of a kingdom but ive been a nobody whose been unwillingly thrusted into a position of being a highly regarded somebody and its absolutely terrifying if you are not prepared
Being a non-royal, wouldn't Kristoff be Royal Consort at best?
He would be King Consort. He wouldn't have real power over Arendelle but still have pretty big responsibilities and an imagen to project to the kingdom. An example of this could be the british royal family, with Kate Middleton and Princess Diana.
@ximenafelix6053 Wouldn't he be prince consort?
@@Passions5555 He would be if Anna was still the princess, but at the end of Frozen II Elsa give up the throne to Anna, making her queen of Arendelle.
Ya and even if he does not have power. He will be expected to act like a royal, there will be no more ice delivery, no more wearing the clothes he wants, everything he does is monitored and don’t get me started on how the consorts are always to blame for what happens to go wrong.
Both he and Anna will be miserable.
Fun fact kristoff’s design was originally supposed to be Flynn riders but Flynn’s was changed to the one he has now and his old one was recycled and used as krisstoff’s
This actually makes since. He loves her but wouldnt want the king title
But Kristoff's whole sub plot was gathering the courage to propose to Anna. I feel like if this scene was included not only would it completely change the sub plot but it sounds like it would be a big enough conflict that it would completely distract from the main plot of the movie. Just my thoughts though.
Kristoff: "I don't wanna be king!"
Anna: "Hey, Hans~! You wanna second chance?"
Uhhh... he literally left her for dead. Then she punched him & ended it.
@@HipBeeWitch uhhh.... I literally was making a joke. Then you took it seriously.
Unless the troll theory is true. Which makes a lot of sense for many reasons. (Hans being a bad guy made no sense to be honest)
This was actually part of the original storyline where he proposes at the beginning of the film but struggles with thinking he’s a good enough lord in arendellian high society and worries he won’t be a good king. This is also part of the same original plot that would’ve had arendelle destroyed and rebuilt in both arendellian and the people of the forest (I forget their name) styles.
He wouldn’t be king, he would be prince. (King is the highest status, and we can’t have a non-blood king, now can we?)
I wouldn’t have wanted to see THIS scene. But kristoff deserved more in that movie. He just goes away and has a cry.
The lie could easily have been him hiding how betrayed he feels over her always running off
Actually he would be Prince Consort….
This would have given Kristoff's character a lot more meaning in the second movie (close to his significance in the first film). It would have helped promote the fact that men/boys are allowed to voice their fears and concerns as well. In my opinion they did him dirty. They may have just cut him from the entire second movie. It wouldn't have been different at all without him 😢
would’ve made it more interesting. irritates me how his only purpose in the movie was to propose to anna
It honestly fits his character, but would've made the whole movie more complicated.
He dosent like dressing as royalty, he lived his whole life in the beauty of the forest
The deleted scenes ussualy add more to the characters. This is no exception
I think it could have fit if it was like "he was scared to become king"
I wouldn't have minded seeing a seen similar to this, of course without all the attempted drowning, in Frozen 2. It would show that he's unsure of his role but he loves Anna on it and is willing to try for her, no matter how uncomfortable he is
Yeah, it'd give his character more depth!
I absolutely would love to see that in the movie
Telling the truth abt urself is actually not bad
It makes Kristoff more complex
WHY DIDNT THEY ADD THAT!!!!!!!!!😢
If Arendelle is like most monarchies, he would never become king, or not have the title anyway. He would have duty’s, yes, but he would never officially be king, even if people consider him to be.
In a typical monarchy, like Great Britain, the crown gets passed around based on the royal blood. So if a king or queen dies, the new ruler is normally the oldest child. That's why Elsa becomes Queen. Her parents died, So when she's of age, she ascends to the throne; she's now the oldest blood relative.
Although many people consider every King to have a queen and vice versa, that's not usually the way it works. The one who possesses the royal blood is called the monarch; that's the one who's in charge. Their partner then is known as their royal consort and are in no way in line for the throne.
For example, the British line of succession.
Phillip wasn’t even in the top 50 when it came
to waiting in line for the throne.
Neither Hans (who wanted to be king) or Kristoff would ever get the title of king. Just like a deck of cards, the royal consort can't have a title that beats the actual monarch. The monarch is the higher title.
So I don’t even know if Kristoff would get a title or what his would be. But I do know that had Hans married Anna, he would always have to remain Prince Hans: royal consort to Queen Anna. Better than just being a prince and 13th in-line? Yes. But still not the king.
It's actually the same thing Britain, and a lot of monarchy’s do. When Queen Elizabeth was the reigning monarch, her husband Prince Philip would always be just that. Prince. And which Charles being king and Camilla being the queen consort. (Although most people just call her queen)
So you see, the crown would go to literally anyone with a drop of blood related to these two and Hans has zero Arenedellian blood, and Kristoff, unless there’s a plot twist where he is a royals long lost son, neither of them would be king. A Prince or a similar title? Yes. King? No.
This is something that could work in frozen 3
Are you kidding me??? This would have made complete sense and made him even more lovable as a character.
Its a realistic view and one that could be perfect to explore.
For sure i would see more story lines
Didn’t he only propose to Anna at the _end_ of the movie? It would’ve been real cocky of him to say he doesn’t want to be king _before_ even proposing to her and having her say yes.
That actually makes big sense. It would represent his character much better than the bullshit they ended up doin with his personality in the second movie
Honestly, many of these deleted scenes are better than the actual movie itself. I heard, they changed the script a lot to make it more kids - friendly, and it is just sad, because kids didn't even like Frozen 2 that much at the end and fans like me were disappointed in the sequel too
I’m not sure because 1 it means Ana and Kristoff would have to move and 2 this scene means alternate realities could exist in the Disney World
The continuity of the Frozen crossover in Once Upon A Time tv series is already a different timeline from what was presented in F2.
Although this would be kinda(very) cool to see, I think all Disney movies are mostly targeted for a younger audience. That doesn’t mean older people can’t watch them though! The horse attempting drowning Kristof and all that emotional build up might be a bit too much for children. Stay safe everyone.
I never agreed with the idea of Anna being queen in the first place. No matter how hard I try, I just can't imagine her in a throne upholding royal duties.
You’re not alone. A lot of people feel the same way, in truth Anna being the fifth element and staying in the woods with Kristoff makes a lot more sense than Elsa being one and runner away from her responsibility….. again….
Nokk turned in to the Brook horse💀
Yes his arc would have been so much better as this than just trying to propose
It makes sense He always seems pretty satisfied with his simple life
Kristoff could become a prince, just like prince Philip to Queen Elizabeth the second
Honestly, for me, I just wouldn’t know how it would continue
Reading about the behind the scenes, seeing the deleted storyboards/animates, and watching that making of Frozen 2 documentary on Disney+ there was many changes to the story and how it was originally going to play out that was scrapped for the final movie version we saw (this is common in books, comics, movies, and TV creations though I'm always fascinated by the "what uf/what was" in story making).
Frozen (1st movie of the franchise) had changes to it's story TONS of times till the final version we saw.
Some of the ideas they had for Frozen 2 that was ultimately scrapped was that Kristoff was going to propose early in the movie (and even had a full song made for that part). However the situations of the royal customs, culture, thier jobs, and overall aspects beyond Anna's and Kristoff's control would become factors that despite the two loving each other truly the wedding was going to be called off by the end.
Other factors I read that was going to happen was all was going to literally die in the film and not be resurrected (that scene where the wind spirit takes essentially Olaf's ashes / snow and then drop the flower petals is equivalent to throwing flowers on a grave), Allendale was truly going to be destroyed, and the fate of Elsa unknown but possibly also gone.
Anna would become Queen, will have to unite the two peoples (fighting also negative false propaganda/history that was believed by Arendelle) together, and have to build from scratch a new kingdom alone. Anne would be at her most painful and companionless yet for others be a wise ruler & builder.
These ideas however was cut and I can see or image why even though I find them fascinating to think about. The creators knew many that watched as kids Frozen 1 was getting older and possibly wanted to make darker/deeper/mature themes/storylines in turn.
Now with Frozen 3 (and maybe 4 based on recent news indicating possible a two parter like Across the Spider-Verse was) it's possible some past ideas could be making a return amoung other many possibilities that could happen.
Tbh I don't think he ever had any interest in being king he just liked Anna
I completely forgot that Kristoff would become king whenever I watched the movie tbh
Honestly, it makes a lot of sense. He was raised by trolls his whole life and was really only known for collecting and delivering ice. It would’ve been disappointing but at the same time made the movie a lot better
Yes. For to romantic leads to be vulnerable with eachother in a disney film is incredibly rare. I would love to see a plot point where the love interest admits to something that could damage their relationship.
I would’ve loved that. Would’ve given him more depth.
It makes sense, but I feel he will eventually actually be a great king
Not gonna lie it would totally makes sense of his character Because from him jumping from an ice delivery boy to a king/Prince consort is a huge Responsibility and he probably doesn’t even know all that stuff Because he not a Royal Like Anna is it wouldn’t really fit his character especially the stuff that he have to do Because royalty is not a joke They should have kept that idea
I think it wouldn’t have fit in frozen 2 but this would be something in frozen 3
I think it would have made it interesting
could make sense in frozen 3, but not frozen 2. frozen 2, they still thought elsa was going to stay Queen until the end.
It would've been nice to see that side of him. It would've given us more of his character.
Uh, wouldn't he technically not be a king? Bc prince Philip isn't a king, well wasn't a king🤧 but the queen was still a queen. So would Kristoff technically not be king???-
(I really don't know I'm just guessing from the tiny bit of knowledge I have in my brain 🤧💀-)
Since he's not of royal blood therefore not royalty the best he could do is probably a royal consort or the queen's consort. Bottom line, he's probably not gonna be a king but a consort.
@@EARSHOT123 Ty for blessing me with your smart brain🤧
I think this would have been better than him wandering around the woods by himself the whole movie
I think they wanted to focus on the proposal so they cut it. On one hand I feel like putting that in would distract from the whole proposal situation, but I also feel like it’s what would fit his character.
Maybe they can just add that in Frozen 3 or some spinoff where he’s already king and hates it. If can be revealed that he felt neutral about it and tolerated it because he liked Anna, but it was just really adding a lot of stress onto him
I also liked his proposal song and “Home” song as well over “some things never change.” 😂
That would’ve been cool to see. It would’ve given his character more depth
tbh i remember watching the movie and EXPECTING a scene like that to happen
Just because Anna is Queen doesn’t mean that he will be King. I live in a country that has a royal family and someone who has married into the family can never be king they will be a prince married to the queen. King is higher rank than a Queen that’s why the husband will be a prince.
I mean, it definitely makes sense for his character, but it kind of doesn’t fit what his arch became, which was more about his fears in inadequacy and that Anna is going to forget about him. He remedies this in his song where he comes to the conclusion that he just needs to trust in her and her love for him, and be patient.
Also, Anna doesn't find out she's going to be queen till the end of the movie, so this feels like more of a 3rd movie thing where now Kristoff is dealing with the strains of being King. But then again, he doesn't seem to be seen as the one in charge, so idk if he's going to have to do much apart from support Anna. Maybe it'll be about boundaries instead. Kristoff is all for supporting Anna, but the royal life is stiffling and he doesn't know how to handle things or talk about it. Then it ends with Kristoff and Anna finding proper work/life balance.
He would have more depth than Elsa and it would be pretty logical considering he was just an iceman, being a king is just a lot of pressure.
Yes but no, I love the ending we got and what really sucks is the one the deleted scenes they cut was where at the end of the movie or the sisters reunite, Elsa uses her powers to show Anna that their parents wanted Anna to take care of arrendelle because “she has a love that could hold up the world.”
He could just be very aware of the duties a king has (WHICH IS A LOT) and may have not been ready for it yet :)
It fits with his character perfectly.
I think it would’ve been too much with everything in frozen 2, but I think it’d be cool to see that come up in frozen 3
I think they should have done this but Elsa was in kristoffs place it would have made more sense why it was easy for Elsa to leave her kingdom showing she loves her people but not her role still fearing that someone might still try to kill her for her magic
honestly? would have been interesting if Anna had to make the choice between the crown of the man she loves. would also be interesting if Elsa had to make the choice to live for herself for once, or continue putting Anna first (keep the crown and be miserable by putting Anna first, or give Anna the crown and be free).
Did you know, he couldn't even technically *be* king? As it is a higher status than queen, and he isn't royal-born----So he can't become king at all.
I think it would be a good plot. So far both movie has been focus on mostly elsa and her powers. Now that its answered, i would be delighted it the third movie would be focus on anna and kristoff now as a newly engaged couple and newly assigned royals of arendelle.
I think anna would be in the same position as kristoff, being unprepared for the sudden change. And while anna herself is royalty from the beginning, i dont think she had that much experience and responsibilities as much like elsa since elsa was the heir. Anna from start to the end of the first movie seems to be carefree and isolated, completely oblivious to how hard responsibilities are as royals.
I would love to see how anna would deal with other people not agreeing with her decision despite being queen. I can see anna the type to want to please people to accept her so i want to see how she would come to accept she cant please everyone.
Frozen 3: Kristoff learns the way of the Royal, there will be drama about him still wanting to work, but since he is king it's unnecessary, he's devoted, ambitious and stubborn to keep trying to work, because that's all he knew to survive, Anna has a deep conversation with him, telling him that it's okay to work, but the way he forces it on himself is unhealthy, she knows about his past and the trauma because of it, and with all the events that had happened, and Kristoff learns to relax and let others help him too
That would've been interesting. Anna would be the princess that kept getting dumped.
It would have been nice to see a princess break up and be friends. Show a healthy relationship even when it ends
It would've made sense if they had gone with the original idea, because originally kristoff was struggling to ask Anna to marry him because he wasn't sure if he could handle being a king or prince but they scrapped the idea in the end
Would've added to his character and make their appearance justified, they literally added nothing to the sequel.
Who doesn’t want to be king😮🎉
To be fair he doesnt even seem like the guy that likes to rule
I'm happy because they cut this scene 🙂🙂
Nah bro i like the kenergy with theIM LOST IN THE WOOODDS
Well he could be the royal escort like they do in england
Actually, he wouldn’t be king. He would be Prince consort if it works the same way as it works in England, but if it works differently, then I don’t know.😅
Makes sense to cut it out of 2 but I think it would be cool in 3
He had more emotions in this than he did in the movie.
I mean this actually make sense, Kris wasn’t a “Royal” from the beginning, he’s just a common ice dealer with his best animal friend that living freely and wildly in nature, I would say he love Anna for heart, but he prob can’t really get used to become a King…if he can’t even like a formal suit how y’all expecting him liking the Royal life he don’t want to?
I would like for them to add this in frozen 3 Intead of frozen 2 cuz he wanted to marry Anna in the 2th movie but this seems cool! Wonder if they will ever add this tho 🧐it would also give deployment in their relationship and kistofs character and character re scrap for a queen for Anna
I think this would make sense in the 3rd one, since Anna's queen now and they're engaged. Unless Elsa gave up the throne significantly earlier in the 2nd movie, I can't see how it would have fit very well in Frozen II
I think it should have been in the movie relationship are not easy and sometimes we don’t want the same things as our partner the key is we find a good middle ground where everyone is happy
it would make sense but also i think that his story of becoming a king for anna is better
DONT DESTROY MY KRISTOFF LIKE THAT 🤣
Oh, I thought he was going to tell Anna his secret, the secret that he’s in love with her 😂😂😂😂😂
He already did
It certainly would’ve given his character something to do besides fumbling through a proposal the whole movie
This would've elevated the movie! ❤
Would've been a great addition
It actually makes more sense and i would have liked Frozen 2 more with this scene.
Sounds like a scene they should be using for F3 tbh