Fun fact about The Bane! Turning the in-game audio settings down will NOT silence it. The game has a built-in exception for audio produced by The Bane, which is always played at full volume, regardless of what the player's audio settings are.
Also, they literally have no detachable mag. It's designed that way for the thumbless. No, seriously - the ads for Tediore guns is that the guy that wants to defend his homestead lost his thumbs so he's worried he can't defend himself because he can't reload.
@@tallynnyntyg6008Glad you pointed that out. Canon lore is that Tediore became so wealthy and successful from their "cheap guns for the average user" that they invested all that profit into the "digi-struct" tech to make them explode.
E-Tech weapons are specifically designed, using alien technology, to drive Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries museum in the UK, insane.
Didn't expect Dave to explain Digistructing to Jonathan. I think he would enjoy taking a look at even the generic models of Jakobs, Dahl and perhaps Vladof, of Borderlands 3.
I like how even though those guns are cursed, they are still somewhat brought smile to Jonathan's face. Unlike those cursed guns from previous Call of Duty video that made him instantly activated "Facepalm mode", lol.
Maybe the boarderlands developers should take his suggestion. When the next game in the series comes out, have a mission that require you to complete it with a cursed weapon, upon completing your reward is a talking gun that will counsel you in use.
well, the reason why CoD guns are cursed, is because they're based on real guns and then frankensteined with customization. While Borderlands guns are scifi (hint for some people, they're fictional) guns.
@@komiks42 I think the easy answer would be setting or theme. If you look at a scene and told here are the rules, as long any other elements added afterwards match this template then there would be no issue. However introduce an element that doesn’t then you have problem. BL-CoD Looter shooter-military shooter Cell shade-realistic graphic Sci-fi- modern weapons
There are lot of Borderlands guns that attempt to look conventional that I expected hearing Jon's opinion on, but I see that Dave just had an itch to bring him the legendary meme guns and whatever was going on in BL3 and Wonderland. Which is still entertaining, but analyzing more "normal" guns of franchise would be also interesting, considering they are randomly combined from variety of parts. Hope for part 2!
We definitely need episodes for each manufacturer in the borderlands games with an explanation of their gimmick for Johnathan (i feel like he will end up being a jakobs or dahl fan)
To be fair, the Swordsplosion is, canonically, the creation of a demented little girls imagination, filtered through an insane explosive weapons creator's advice, that you somehow dragged back into the real world, so being a little nutty is only natural.
Digistructing in the Borderlands series is essentially just very rapid 3D printing. With the guns, it's using the license that came with the gun to print an extra copy after you throw away the shoddy, explosive gun. It's like how a Sig fires when it's dropped, except instead of firing a round, it just explodes entirely.
In Lore Tediore guns are so prone to exploding in the users hands that the company decided to make it the companies signature feature where instead of reloading a new mag you throw your gun like a grenade and explode in your targets face and since you digitized the gun it can respawn into your hand fully loaded and ready to fire, at some point they decided to add AI's into the gun because smart guns became a fad.
Also their signature boxy shape is an actual design features. Not for the person using the gun mind you, but for the person selling them as it allows them to more easily be loaded into shipping containers and on shelves.
I also like to see Jonathan react to the guns of Binary Domain, which is a cyberpunk game taking place in 2080 in Japan, and the weapons that the main character squad, the Rust crew, are equipped with are basically futurized version of modern guns. And the robots that you fight also have their own standard issue guns, there's also the underground Resistance, who built their own guns. The game was developed by the same people behind the Yakuza games. I would also like to see Jonathan take a look at the guns of Vanquish, a 3rd Person Shooter from Platinum Games, the weapons ranged from futuristic assault rifles, shotguns, LMGs and pistols to energy weapons that actually use the main character's suit energy to fire, too bad Vanquish didn't sell well enough to warrant a sequel, which is a huge shame since the ending is quite abrupt. For an April's Fools special, it would be nice to see Jonathan react to the guns of Plant vs Zombies: Garden Warfare 2, eventhough only the zombie characters carry guns.
What was with Binary Domain and its gimmick of voice commands for your pet npcs? Was it meant to push some hardware? Thankfully they provided alternate controls, at least in the Steam version I played
i mean PvZ has some wacky weapons in general, in the comics Crazy Dave makes a giant shoulder cannon looking thing, just to fire a regular sized banana peel. (this is in the middle of a mech fight against Zomboss btw)
@@danielwilliams7727 I think the closest thing to an actual gun in the Garden Warfare games that I can think of is the foot soldier’s ZPG, which somewhat resembles an AT4, but it is fired from the back, literally. I know that the soldier’s blasters are mostly paintball guns, except for the ones used by the Commando, Tank Commander, Park Ranger, Scuba Soldier and Centurion.
2:30 oh yeah, those were S&S guns, The gimmick was they had like three times the magazine size of anybody else, so those pistols had absolutely overclocked animations. Legendary Thanatos from there also had a fun glitch where when reloading the cip stayed in place, while a second clip got pulled out most of the way, and then put back in. That gun carried me through a lot of the game, so I saw that glitch a lot
Always a pleasure to see more Borderlands guns. Still, I’d like to see Jonathan dissect and discuss the guns from the Valkyria Chronicles series one of these days. I just know he’d have some interesting things to say. Some fun reactions, at least.
Jonathan Ferguson, Keeper of Xenomorphs and Aliens at the Royal Xenobiology lab on LV426, which houses an iconic collection of thousands of Species from throughout the galaxy.
7:09 No Borderlands weapon video is complete without THIS, It HAD to be here 7:54 God I have to get this one, once Borderlands Pre Sequel will become available for cloud gaming
I think the Punisher had a gun that fired swords. If you want, check out Bulletstorm. It's got a handful of weird guns. A revolver with an underbarrel flare gun (works like an incendiary rocket launcher), a cannon with constantly exploding cannonballs, a rocket-propelled rock drill launcher.
Please Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries museum in the UK, deconstruct & analyze the weapons of METAL GEAR SOLID 3 before the remake comes out.
The Bane is actually an excellent weapon for getting Second Winds. You don't care about the movement speed reduction when you're already crawling on the ground dying, and this thing has insane damage. Just don't be more than 10m away from whatever killed you.
The Casual Swordsplosion was one of my favourite Borderlands guns. A "shotgun" that fires three impact grenades, each of which has three submunitions, was great fun for removing problems and everything standing near the problem.
"I dont know why those rocket pod things 'deploy' out to the side" -- My guess?.. Visual cue to the player which 'mode' the weapon is operating in. Much like how the Under-barrel morter-bombs rotated up on the other gun :)
if I'm not mistaken, the projectiles fired by Swordsplosion actually count as both projectile damage and melee damage. I'm pretty sure you can stack bonuses for both damage types with Swordsplosion. that's a big part of what makes it one of the most overpowered weapons in the game.
This is incorrect in borderlands 2. But you are only half wrong! You can stack the damage by boosting gun, explosive, and grenade damage. The Swordsplosion from Wonderlands may work like you think though, since they do have guns in BL3 and Wonderlands that deal melee damage. Just saying so someone doesn't farm one for their melee Zer0 😅
I agree, but they'll need to get footage from volunteers though unless Dave already plays It's a massive grind to get a lot of the cool guns, especially the prime guns
That would be great experience, but also when the Warframe 1999 update gets out it will be fun to see how they handle the new weapons like the AX-52 rifle
a note on the "SWORDSPLOSION!!!" is that its a weapon from a fantasy TTRPG inside borderlands and was just supposed to shoot swords, but Mr. Torgue asked the DM nicely to make the swords explode and split into smaller swords that also explode. because who doesnt like explosions. then we just continue using it in the normal game.
10:28 the bullets having to teleport into the barrel (or being digistructed into it) is honestly something that could be canon for the borderlands universe. ...thinking about it, that might explain some of the weapons effects, as well as the Gunner in BL3 being able to shoot infinitely with the right build. also for the weapon before this one, the double V-shaped mags is common design for bandit SMGs, it doesnt _have_ to be the cutie killer. and the weapon after, the rocket-propelled, exploding shotgun, can probably spawn with a bayonet attachment. all weapons in borderlands are comprised of a certain number of parts, giving them certain properties. so unless the legendary part that gives it its effect is in the "attachment" slot, it can have a bayonet. also good to know that dave could always just pull out borderlands to torture Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms & artillery at the Royal Armouries museum in the UK, because there are hundreds of crazy guns in that franchise.
So each gun in borderlands has a manufacturer that sort of determines the like style of the gun and dictates how a bunch of its stats work. Tediore, the guns that you chuck to reload, where meant to be super cheep weaponry that was so unstable they where not able to reload, so you just digistruct a new one with ammo already in it. they are essentially disposable. throwing them with more ammo still in the mag increases the damage of whatever it does once thrown. most just explode. I usually preferred liquid thunder snipers with red dot scopes in the first game, but I cant remember who made them.
They were also randomly generated each part of the gun had at least 3 different variations and don’t ask about the names. They weren’t joking when gearbox said there was bazillions of guns
Oh Great Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum... please check out the guns of the Valkyria Chronicles games. And maybe Elite Force since you mentioned them. Also awesome that you remembered the personal transporter pattern buffer on the Hazard Suit. 😁
Some episodes you feel sorry for Jonathan Ferguson. Bringing out a historic beauty like a pistol crossbow, with a 100 year story, in a video about hamburger launchers really hurt.
24:10 I FULLY agree here. The revolver segment is the best part of this video because he gets to dwell into his craft and actually talk about the function of the weapons. The occasional whacky "I don't even have anything to add" reactions are fine if there's only a few. Please, please, please play BL2 (ok graphic detail but retained weapon 'realism') and show him the slightly less whacky guns as well. I'd love his take on Dahl, Jacobs and vladof guns that tend to be somewhat sensible.
Guns of The First Descendent. The Tamer I can see Johnathan being confused over the 2 gas ports. or the absolute ridiculousness of some of the launchers
We gotta see totally basic, low rarity weapons from the borderlands series as well. Jonathan needs to see the more commonly encountered guns in the series.
Swordsplosion looks like it came out of 40k And for the sake of the means of launching rockets these days from aircraft changing from just being held within a rack to within pods (provided that was the question being asked). It's about aerodynamics as air flows much more stably around a single larger object as opposed to dozens of smaller objects in close proximity to one another. It's also the same reason why the Mk80 series of bombs because as jets were developed the stubbier bombs of the time often produced too much drag to get free from the jetstream of the aircraft under certain condition so the thinner longer Mk80 LDGP (Low Drag General Purpose) came in to replace older less streamlined designs like the M65, M117, and M118.
The Bane, in Borderlands 2, is really nice because it gets more accurate while you shoot it, somehow, so if you just... hold down the trigger and embrace the madness, it eventually becomes extremely accurate, and does a lot of damage, relative to most weapons.
I do love seeing Johnathan slowly become emotionally damaged by the weird guns in borderlands but I would actually just as much enjoy a video looking at regular rare and uncommon weapons. The randomized parts and what not I think would make a much more informative video
i want to point out that the Unforgiven doesn't remove its old casings when you reload. in the slow-mo you can even see the old casings still in the cylinder before you spin it.
i hope that Jonathan Ferguson, a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries at the UK can react to Generation Zero! the guns are well made and i love the way they handle. also there are some cursed ones too. i'd love to see his react to those. also the resistance trilogy would be cool too
I though that the bullets you use to reload the Unforgiving comes from your hand, but now discovering how is in reality only makes the cun even more cooler
I think he'd get a kick out of the names of the guns in VC4. And I would love to see his reaction to an Anti-Tank Lance, both Gallian and Federation versions.
Johnathan Ferguson, Keeper of Facehuggers and Chestbursters at the Royal Xenomorph Zoo in the UK Which Houses a Collection of Thousands of Iconic Aliens from Throughout History.
It's great to see him reference the Star Trek Elite Force games and their in-universe "transporter buffer" explanation for how one person carries around nearly a dozen bulky weapons. Maybe we can get his reaction/analysis of the Elite Force weapons?
One thing a lot of later fans don’t realize is that the manufacturer abilities are based on stat boosts from the first game. For example vladof was always known for high capacity and fire rate, hence auto snipers from 2 on and Tediore had boosted reload speed which is why they became throwable, with the reasoning that throwing your gun and digistructing a new one is faster than reloading.
I think the purpose of having the secondary parts of the guns, the rockets and mortars and what not, swing or pivot out is to serve as a visual cue for the player as to what they're about to fire.
A lot of what Jonathan has a problem with is the fact that they are duel-function firearms, so they have a visual indication of when you are changing fire modes. That's why things rotate or swing out.
Now that Fallout London is finally released, it would be perfect for Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries museum in the UK, to react to their guns
16:37 "Because that's what Borderlands needs, more variety it its weapons." -Jonathan Ferguson "Borderlands, released by Gearbox in 2009, features some 17,750,000 weapons." -Guinness World Records Programmatically looking through the Borderlands 2 game data suggests it can generate 2,736,589 weapons. Programmatically looking through the Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel game data suggests it can generate 34,527,769 weapons. (1161.71% increase from previous game) Borderlands 3 Datamining (numbers current as of 2020-11-09) suggests the game can generate 4,007,410,150 weapons. (11506.3% Increase from previous game) Following this trend Borderlands 4 will increase the amount of weapons by ~115000% for a total of ~4,608,521,672,500 weapons. If Jonathan Ferguson spent 5 minutes per weapon, for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, 50 weeks a year (-2 weeks for holidays). It would take him 960,108,681.77 YEARS to react to every weapon. All this to say "Yes Jonathan, Borderlands DOES NEED more variety in its weapons."
It makes me happy to know even Jonathan Ferguson enjoys LGR's content. Give me THAT crossover, please. I think Clint and Jonathan would have a grand ol' time.
Out of all the borderlands guns, my favourite was definitely Sledge's Shotgun. A double barrel that sends your target to the moon if they didn't die instantly. The best part is that it shows up early after beating the first boss. Stuck with me for my entire playthrough of BL1.
10:33 don’t tell jonathan but command and conquer did a similar thing by mating a Gatling mechanism to an AK there’s even a prop of it that appears in some live action cutscenes
Borderlands needs to go back to what they originally had said the gun system was going to be. Before Borderlands 1 had officially launched, the marketing was saying you'd be able to dismantle any gun and make game-breaking guns. Unfortunately, back then some of the most insane gun builds would have completely crashed any hardware they were running on, so when the game launched they had to completely scrap the scrap/rebuild mechanic. With hardware and software optimizations being what they are nowadays, I'd love to see the old battleplan for BL guns come back.
There's a mod for 2 that came out not too long ago that adds something like that. There are limitations as to how game breaking you can make some things given that some parts just aren't meant to be on certain uniques and legendaries and such, but you can do some cool stuff and at the very least you could use it to make your own god rolls from multiple drops.
Fun fact about The Bane! Turning the in-game audio settings down will NOT silence it. The game has a built-in exception for audio produced by The Bane, which is always played at full volume, regardless of what the player's audio settings are.
That makes it MORE cursed 😂
So The Bane can't be silenced.
*Presses mute on TV remote*
Let's not forget, The Bane is a quest reward in which you search for a cursed waepon
I hate it cause it still had the best numbers.
@@Gman2486 Thats how it gets you. Its like "Check me out, Im an SMG with some really good stats" and then it tortures you
The gimmick with Tediore guns is that they are so cheap that it's cheaper to throw them away and buy a new one than reloading them
The more unfired bullets you have in the gun can cause more damage
Also, they literally have no detachable mag. It's designed that way for the thumbless. No, seriously - the ads for Tediore guns is that the guy that wants to defend his homestead lost his thumbs so he's worried he can't defend himself because he can't reload.
@@tallynnyntyg6008Glad you pointed that out. Canon lore is that Tediore became so wealthy and successful from their "cheap guns for the average user" that they invested all that profit into the "digi-struct" tech to make them explode.
Similar to some inkjet printers.
@@tallynnyntyg6008 Is it necessary to need a thumb to reload a weapon?
E-Tech weapons are specifically designed, using alien technology, to drive Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries museum in the UK, insane.
it turns bullets into, well...not-bullets!
@@CturiX.IREALLYDr. Zed quote
"I'm not a xenobiologist, dave!"
- Jonathan Ferguson the keeper of birds and bird accessories only in his off time
T-shirt/mug when?
Implying we had enough xenos to make a degree out of it......Jonathan knows something we don't..
I'm a keeper of firearms and artillery not a xenobiologist.
Had "I'm a doctor, Jim" energy
Didn't expect Dave to explain Digistructing to Jonathan. I think he would enjoy taking a look at even the generic models of Jakobs, Dahl and perhaps Vladof, of Borderlands 3.
As the shredifier came up the generic vladof have a sickle as inspired by soviet stuff
Would also like this
Daul is a overproof HK
Jacob's is Colt and SnW
Vladof is stereotype at its finest
“Doesn’t make sense…looks cool though” is the design pitch for Borderlands as a whole
I like how even though those guns are cursed, they are still somewhat brought smile to Jonathan's face. Unlike those cursed guns from previous Call of Duty video that made him instantly activated "Facepalm mode", lol.
Refuge in audacity, yo. The guns are so purposefully absurd that you can't help but love them
Maybe the boarderlands developers should take his suggestion. When the next game in the series comes out, have a mission that require you to complete it with a cursed weapon, upon completing your reward is a talking gun that will counsel you in use.
well, the reason why CoD guns are cursed, is because they're based on real guns and then frankensteined with customization. While Borderlands guns are scifi (hint for some people, they're fictional) guns.
Bordenlands dont try to make reslistic guns. They wacky on purpose.
CoD try to make real guns. And when they are wacky, its annoy
@@komiks42 I think the easy answer would be setting or theme. If you look at a scene and told here are the rules, as long any other elements added afterwards match this template then there would be no issue. However introduce an element that doesn’t then you have problem. BL-CoD
Looter shooter-military shooter
Cell shade-realistic graphic
Sci-fi- modern weapons
There are lot of Borderlands guns that attempt to look conventional that I expected hearing Jon's opinion on, but I see that Dave just had an itch to bring him the legendary meme guns and whatever was going on in BL3 and Wonderland. Which is still entertaining, but analyzing more "normal" guns of franchise would be also interesting, considering they are randomly combined from variety of parts. Hope for part 2!
yea this is what i was hoping for, i wanna see more borderlands 1 guns
We definitely need episodes for each manufacturer in the borderlands games with an explanation of their gimmick for Johnathan (i feel like he will end up being a jakobs or dahl fan)
Definitely and a dedicated bl 2 video
Absolutely agree with that suggestion
He would recognize vladof superiority
I would put my money on being a Jakobs fan. "If it takes more than one bullet, you weren't using a Jakobs"
Dave's utterly defeated but certain "Johnathan's off to get his gun that shoots swords" destroyed me.
To be fair, the Swordsplosion is, canonically, the creation of a demented little girls imagination, filtered through an insane explosive weapons creator's advice, that you somehow dragged back into the real world, so being a little nutty is only natural.
And its got a barrel reverse engineered out of the remnants of an ancient extinct species of aliens.
Digistructing in the Borderlands series is essentially just very rapid 3D printing. With the guns, it's using the license that came with the gun to print an extra copy after you throw away the shoddy, explosive gun. It's like how a Sig fires when it's dropped, except instead of firing a round, it just explodes entirely.
To add a bit more to this: the same company actually bought the rights to a shoddy cell phone in-universe and rebranded them as grenades.
Sig: Tediore features at S&S prices 👍
Personally I headcannon Tediore selling either a chip that connects to your Echo Device which then creates the gun or a bracelet.
In Lore Tediore guns are so prone to exploding in the users hands that the company decided to make it the companies signature feature where instead of reloading a new mag you throw your gun like a grenade and explode in your targets face and since you digitized the gun it can respawn into your hand fully loaded and ready to fire, at some point they decided to add AI's into the gun because smart guns became a fad.
Also their signature boxy shape is an actual design features. Not for the person using the gun mind you, but for the person selling them as it allows them to more easily be loaded into shipping containers and on shelves.
I also like to see Jonathan react to the guns of Binary Domain, which is a cyberpunk game taking place in 2080 in Japan, and the weapons that the main character squad, the Rust crew, are equipped with are basically futurized version of modern guns. And the robots that you fight also have their own standard issue guns, there's also the underground Resistance, who built their own guns. The game was developed by the same people behind the Yakuza games.
I would also like to see Jonathan take a look at the guns of Vanquish, a 3rd Person Shooter from Platinum Games, the weapons ranged from futuristic assault rifles, shotguns, LMGs and pistols to energy weapons that actually use the main character's suit energy to fire, too bad Vanquish didn't sell well enough to warrant a sequel, which is a huge shame since the ending is quite abrupt.
For an April's Fools special, it would be nice to see Jonathan react to the guns of Plant vs Zombies: Garden Warfare 2, eventhough only the zombie characters carry guns.
Wasn't that Alternate yakuza on future?
What was with Binary Domain and its gimmick of voice commands for your pet npcs? Was it meant to push some hardware? Thankfully they provided alternate controls, at least in the Steam version I played
i mean PvZ has some wacky weapons in general, in the comics Crazy Dave makes a giant shoulder cannon looking thing, just to fire a regular sized banana peel. (this is in the middle of a mech fight against Zomboss btw)
@@danielwilliams7727 I think the closest thing to an actual gun in the Garden Warfare games that I can think of is the foot soldier’s ZPG, which somewhat resembles an AT4, but it is fired from the back, literally. I know that the soldier’s blasters are mostly paintball guns, except for the ones used by the Commando, Tank Commander, Park Ranger, Scuba Soldier and Centurion.
@@gunnargunnarsson5963 counter-character, Captain Cannon. (him and some of the Imps)
2:30 oh yeah, those were S&S guns, The gimmick was they had like three times the magazine size of anybody else, so those pistols had absolutely overclocked animations. Legendary Thanatos from there also had a fun glitch where when reloading the cip stayed in place, while a second clip got pulled out most of the way, and then put back in. That gun carried me through a lot of the game, so I saw that glitch a lot
7:15 johnathan's reaction to the bane is golden
Always a pleasure to see more Borderlands guns. Still, I’d like to see Jonathan dissect and discuss the guns from the Valkyria Chronicles series one of these days. I just know he’d have some interesting things to say. Some fun reactions, at least.
I’m glad we got to see him react to the Unforgiven in this. It might be a “torture Jonathan” episode, but he deserves a break.
“What damage can a Cheeseburger do?” *Poor Elvis Presley noises intensify.* lol
Comparing the Elvis Sandwich to a cheeseburger is a more than massive stretch in my opinion
that was far more than "A cheeseburger"
@@WayStedYouindeed, it was so massive could only be described as a hunk of raw iron-er, cooked meat, bananas and peanut butter, I mean.
@@therighttrousers343 [Recognizances first half of comment] Ah, I See You're a Men of Culture As Well...
That "im not a Xenobiologist, Dave" sounded so personal.
The moment I saw the opening shot I imagined Jonathan jumping from tree to tree screaming "FEAR"
That was a canseled consept for MGS Delta
Speaking of which, I hope they do a video on F.E.A.R.’s guns.
Despite how weird they could get, many of the weapons in the Borderlands games have excellent design sensibility. Dahl is probably my favorite.
Jonathan Ferguson, Keeper of Xenomorphs and Aliens at the Royal Xenobiology lab on LV426, which houses an iconic collection of thousands of Species from throughout the galaxy.
"'Cause that's what Borderlands needs. More variety in its weapons."
Yes. Yes, it is. Unequivocally.
kind of a major selling point for the series
7:09 No Borderlands weapon video is complete without THIS, It HAD to be here
7:54 God I have to get this one, once Borderlands Pre Sequel will become available for cloud gaming
Another weapon we'll be seeing in Cursed Weapons of 2024
I think the Punisher had a gun that fired swords.
If you want, check out Bulletstorm. It's got a handful of weird guns. A revolver with an underbarrel flare gun (works like an incendiary rocket launcher), a cannon with constantly exploding cannonballs, a rocket-propelled rock drill launcher.
Please Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries museum in the UK, deconstruct & analyze the weapons of METAL GEAR SOLID 3 before the remake comes out.
The Bane is actually an excellent weapon for getting Second Winds. You don't care about the movement speed reduction when you're already crawling on the ground dying, and this thing has insane damage. Just don't be more than 10m away from whatever killed you.
It does damage to your eardrums doe
The Casual Swordsplosion was one of my favourite Borderlands guns. A "shotgun" that fires three impact grenades, each of which has three submunitions, was great fun for removing problems and everything standing near the problem.
I think Jonathan would appreciate the purple rarity weapons more than the legendary and unique weapons
I love how done Jonathan sounds.
Tiredly: "I have to find something, Dave."
That's just Jonathan in a nutshell.
Fun fact about the first talking gun: Even if you put the game volume to 0, you can still hear it!
But there is only one way on "How to mute the bane "
@@ap30112002 Another Fun fact: This is the only episode I know of that Mr. Ferguson swore
the bane is reward for a particularly long winded map-traversing quest isnt it? to rub salt in the wound
The quest does consistently tell you it's cursed and everyone who had it died, so nothing says we weren't warned
"I dont know why those rocket pod things 'deploy' out to the side" -- My guess?.. Visual cue to the player which 'mode' the weapon is operating in. Much like how the Under-barrel morter-bombs rotated up on the other gun :)
"Words fail. .... What's the point?" 😂😂😂
It's always funny when Dave puts Jonathan way out of his comfort zone... 😁😁😁
if I'm not mistaken, the projectiles fired by Swordsplosion actually count as both projectile damage and melee damage.
I'm pretty sure you can stack bonuses for both damage types with Swordsplosion. that's a big part of what makes it one of the most overpowered weapons in the game.
This is incorrect in borderlands 2. But you are only half wrong! You can stack the damage by boosting gun, explosive, and grenade damage.
The Swordsplosion from Wonderlands may work like you think though, since they do have guns in BL3 and Wonderlands that deal melee damage.
Just saying so someone doesn't farm one for their melee Zer0 😅
It would be cool to see Jonathan reacting to the guns of Warframe
yesss
I agree, but they'll need to get footage from volunteers though unless Dave already plays
It's a massive grind to get a lot of the cool guns, especially the prime guns
You thought the thumbnail was the soma didn't you?
@@lord_walrus8611 sure
That would be great experience, but also when the Warframe 1999 update gets out it will be fun to see how they handle the new weapons like the AX-52 rifle
a note on the "SWORDSPLOSION!!!" is that its a weapon from a fantasy TTRPG inside borderlands and was just supposed to shoot swords, but Mr. Torgue asked the DM nicely to make the swords explode and split into smaller swords that also explode. because who doesnt like explosions.
then we just continue using it in the normal game.
10:28 the bullets having to teleport into the barrel (or being digistructed into it) is honestly something that could be canon for the borderlands universe.
...thinking about it, that might explain some of the weapons effects, as well as the Gunner in BL3 being able to shoot infinitely with the right build.
also for the weapon before this one, the double V-shaped mags is common design for bandit SMGs, it doesnt _have_ to be the cutie killer.
and the weapon after, the rocket-propelled, exploding shotgun, can probably spawn with a bayonet attachment. all weapons in borderlands are comprised of a certain number of parts, giving them certain properties. so unless the legendary part that gives it its effect is in the "attachment" slot, it can have a bayonet.
also good to know that dave could always just pull out borderlands to torture Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms & artillery at the Royal Armouries museum in the UK, because there are hundreds of crazy guns in that franchise.
Funny thing with the screaming gun. If you turn your volumes to zero it still screams.
So each gun in borderlands has a manufacturer that sort of determines the like style of the gun and dictates how a bunch of its stats work. Tediore, the guns that you chuck to reload, where meant to be super cheep weaponry that was so unstable they where not able to reload, so you just digistruct a new one with ammo already in it. they are essentially disposable. throwing them with more ammo still in the mag increases the damage of whatever it does once thrown. most just explode. I usually preferred liquid thunder snipers with red dot scopes in the first game, but I cant remember who made them.
I remember the shotgun-revolvers that Jakobs made were very cracked in the first Borderlands.
They were also randomly generated each part of the gun had at least 3 different variations and don’t ask about the names. They weren’t joking when gearbox said there was bazillions of guns
Oh Great Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum... please check out the guns of the Valkyria Chronicles games. And maybe Elite Force since you mentioned them.
Also awesome that you remembered the personal transporter pattern buffer on the Hazard Suit. 😁
Some episodes you feel sorry for Jonathan Ferguson. Bringing out a historic beauty like a pistol crossbow, with a 100 year story, in a video about hamburger launchers really hurt.
The joy of watching the insane guns from Borderlands slowly destroy Jonathan's sanity.
the best part about the bane is that you can gunzerk (dual wield) them to be even slower
Please do Jedi Survivor Blasters. So many cool references there.
Please can jonathan take a look at the guns from the division 1&2 particularly the exotics.
I second this.
Yes. More Tom Clancy titles, please.
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I FULLY agree here. The revolver segment is the best part of this video because he gets to dwell into his craft and actually talk about the function of the weapons. The occasional whacky "I don't even have anything to add" reactions are fine if there's only a few.
Please, please, please play BL2 (ok graphic detail but retained weapon 'realism') and show him the slightly less whacky guns as well. I'd love his take on Dahl, Jacobs and vladof guns that tend to be somewhat sensible.
I would suggest Bognella from the pre-sequel but it would get the video demonitized as soon as it was fired.
Guns of The First Descendent. The Tamer I can see Johnathan being confused over the 2 gas ports. or the absolute ridiculousness of some of the launchers
Haha Dave's humor is on point this episode! I always like his back and forth with Jonathan in these episodes and appreciate his explanations.
'Jonathan sees more Borderland guns'
Jonathan: Do people want me to loose my sanity.
Everyone: YES!
I would love to see a lets play with these 2, their chemistry is hilarious
Looking forward to the Keyboard Catling Gun :D
Having watch enough of these now, we appreciate the sacrifice of your sanity sir o7
Also, Ngl, keyboard cat gun would be awesome.
We gotta see totally basic, low rarity weapons from the borderlands series as well. Jonathan needs to see the more commonly encountered guns in the series.
11:55 I loved the first Elite Force game and the Personal Transporter Buffer being how we carried everything has stuck with me ever since that game
Swordsplosion looks like it came out of 40k
And for the sake of the means of launching rockets these days from aircraft changing from just being held within a rack to within pods (provided that was the question being asked).
It's about aerodynamics as air flows much more stably around a single larger object as opposed to dozens of smaller objects in close proximity to one another. It's also the same reason why the Mk80 series of bombs because as jets were developed the stubbier bombs of the time often produced too much drag to get free from the jetstream of the aircraft under certain condition so the thinner longer Mk80 LDGP (Low Drag General Purpose) came in to replace older less streamlined designs like the M65, M117, and M118.
Would love to see Jonathan react to the weapons of MGS3 and the more technical codec calls with Sigint.
The Bane, in Borderlands 2, is really nice because it gets more accurate while you shoot it, somehow, so if you just... hold down the trigger and embrace the madness, it eventually becomes extremely accurate, and does a lot of damage, relative to most weapons.
I just noticed it is called the Unforgiven! Really good movie right there.
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That's a good working relationship right there.
I feel like you guys could do a few episodes with Warframe, especially with the new "AX-52" AK lookalike that just came out
I do love seeing Johnathan slowly become emotionally damaged by the weird guns in borderlands but I would actually just as much enjoy a video looking at regular rare and uncommon weapons. The randomized parts and what not I think would make a much more informative video
Just wait until he sees Borderlands 4 guns.
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Dave finally reveals his true form.
StarFox 64's Andross.
Thank you for your sacrifice, Jonathan. We appreciate it~
Lol at 4:33. He looks so unimpressed with the pistol.
Ps: lol you showed him the screaming gun!!
i want to point out that the Unforgiven doesn't remove its old casings when you reload. in the slow-mo you can even see the old casings still in the cylinder before you spin it.
i hope that Jonathan Ferguson, a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries at the UK can react to Generation Zero! the guns are well made and i love the way they handle. also there are some cursed ones too. i'd love to see his react to those.
also the resistance trilogy would be cool too
I though that the bullets you use to reload the Unforgiving comes from your hand, but now discovering how is in reality only makes the cun even more cooler
Any chance we could see a reaction to the guns of Paladins? They have a really fun mix of semi-realistic and absurd
Glad you’re still uploading.
This makes me wish for an Enter The Gungeon episode.
Please can we have Jonathan's reaction to the Valkyria Chronicles series, thank you.
I think he'd get a kick out of the names of the guns in VC4. And I would love to see his reaction to an Anti-Tank Lance, both Gallian and Federation versions.
Johnathan Ferguson, Keeper of Facehuggers and Chestbursters at the Royal Xenomorph Zoo in the UK Which Houses a Collection of Thousands of Iconic Aliens from Throughout History.
5:58 "The Thing I´m thinking of that is sort of like this ... SWORD of...."
-Jonathan Fergusson
I would really love to see Jonathan review the guns of crime boss rockay city
It's great to see him reference the Star Trek Elite Force games and their in-universe "transporter buffer" explanation for how one person carries around nearly a dozen bulky weapons.
Maybe we can get his reaction/analysis of the Elite Force weapons?
I wonder if Jonathan will ever react to the weapons of Cruelty Squad, but then I remember the visuals. Still, would make for a cool episode I think!
17:30 Borderlands 4 looking better by the minute!
We thank Jonathan for his service.
One thing a lot of later fans don’t realize is that the manufacturer abilities are based on stat boosts from the first game. For example vladof was always known for high capacity and fire rate, hence auto snipers from 2 on and Tediore had boosted reload speed which is why they became throwable, with the reasoning that throwing your gun and digistructing a new one is faster than reloading.
That would be Tediore - Maliwan's thing is elemental damage.
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I would love to see more Borderlands 1, 2, and Pre-Sequel Expert Reacts.
I think the purpose of having the secondary parts of the guns, the rockets and mortars and what not, swing or pivot out is to serve as a visual cue for the player as to what they're about to fire.
A lot of what Jonathan has a problem with is the fact that they are duel-function firearms, so they have a visual indication of when you are changing fire modes. That's why things rotate or swing out.
Was about to say this. Purely a gameplay design feature to tell the player that the gun is gonna do something else.
Now that Fallout London is finally released, it would be perfect for Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries museum in the UK, to react to their guns
We're definitely gonna get a MGS3 Remake episode with Jonathan showing off that crossbow aren't we? 🤣
Seeing Jonathan correct himself that crossbows are not "fired" was deeply satisfying
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Jonathan should look at the guns of SAO Fatal Bullet and COD Advanced Warfare
Is important to note that every weapon part is random as well. The body of the gun is the only thing that matches the brand.
16:37 "Because that's what Borderlands needs, more variety it its weapons." -Jonathan Ferguson
"Borderlands, released by Gearbox in 2009, features some 17,750,000 weapons." -Guinness World Records
Programmatically looking through the Borderlands 2 game data suggests it can generate 2,736,589 weapons.
Programmatically looking through the Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel game data suggests it can generate 34,527,769 weapons. (1161.71% increase from previous game)
Borderlands 3 Datamining (numbers current as of 2020-11-09) suggests the game can generate 4,007,410,150 weapons. (11506.3% Increase from previous game)
Following this trend Borderlands 4 will increase the amount of weapons by ~115000% for a total of ~4,608,521,672,500 weapons. If Jonathan Ferguson spent 5 minutes per weapon, for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, 50 weeks a year (-2 weeks for holidays). It would take him 960,108,681.77 YEARS to react to every weapon.
All this to say "Yes Jonathan, Borderlands DOES NEED more variety in its weapons."
0:57 Claptrap crying, we only hear him because he's not invisible.
And that's why i love Borderlands, so many variety of weapons.
LOVE the voyager elite force reference!
It makes me happy to know even Jonathan Ferguson enjoys LGR's content.
Give me THAT crossover, please. I think Clint and Jonathan would have a grand ol' time.
Out of all the borderlands guns, my favourite was definitely Sledge's Shotgun. A double barrel that sends your target to the moon if they didn't die instantly. The best part is that it shows up early after beating the first boss. Stuck with me for my entire playthrough of BL1.
I wanna see Jonathan Ferguson do Earth Defense Force. Some of the Fencer guns would be particularly fun.
I actually love using the "cutie killer"...while I'm playing claptrap
An Inverse-gimmick Tedior with a chainsaw-bayonet that hits more times the more ammo you fire sounds kinda dope.
10:33 don’t tell jonathan but command and conquer did a similar thing by mating a Gatling mechanism to an AK there’s even a prop of it that appears in some live action cutscenes
Borderlands needs to go back to what they originally had said the gun system was going to be. Before Borderlands 1 had officially launched, the marketing was saying you'd be able to dismantle any gun and make game-breaking guns. Unfortunately, back then some of the most insane gun builds would have completely crashed any hardware they were running on, so when the game launched they had to completely scrap the scrap/rebuild mechanic. With hardware and software optimizations being what they are nowadays, I'd love to see the old battleplan for BL guns come back.
There's a mod for 2 that came out not too long ago that adds something like that. There are limitations as to how game breaking you can make some things given that some parts just aren't meant to be on certain uniques and legendaries and such, but you can do some cool stuff and at the very least you could use it to make your own god rolls from multiple drops.