@@VDA19 Silly you, who hates only those of other color. I socially indoctrinate an entire ethno-homogenous country into hating everyone who isn't them! And forget everything you heard about the Ainu.
Funny how so many people, even in these comments, wanna try downplaying or excusing blatant racism in Japan. If this occurred in any other country y'all would be outraged. Edit: FYI to the *special* people talking about "culture": No, kicking people out of a bar for not being Japanese isn't "culture", it's plain racism. Stop trying to justify it.
Ikr? Imagine if someone tried pulling, “it’s their country, their rules” about segregation in 1930’s USA? They’d be rightfully laughed at. What’s going on in Japan obviously isn’t as bad, but it’s also obviously still the same concept. Just because they have “less” segregation, that doesn’t make it okay. It’s not okay to have *any* segregation.
hot take but the overreactions to the black dude dancing on the train are part of the same issue - sure, he was annoying, but if it had happened in any other country no one would have even heard about it, meanwhile we got hundreds of videos about how foreigners in japan are out of control or something.
I experienced this in Nakatsugawa, Japan. Tried to enter 2 restaurants (one izakaya and a more sit down place) with my girlfriend and was told they were full both times, even though I could clearly see open seats everywhere in the space, tables and bar. I even said “We can wait for a seat to open” and the Japanese hostess just shook her head no. After leaving the second place (which we were just told was full) a Japanese couple entered and were seated right away. Having it happen immediately upon entering the establishment and happening twice in the same night really left a bad taste in my mouth. Luckily the next day I meet an incredibly nice Japanese man who very nice and welcoming and reminded me that not all Japanese are like this, but it certainly exists. Very jarring to experience blatant and shameless racism and xenophobia like that outta nowhere though.
And they are right in being like that... you want to live in japan? they will be racist, that is it. want to be multicultural? europe and the U.S.A is there for you.
@@kotorandcorvid4968 he's a proud spokesperson of japan, even though he hasn't been there or even speak the language but i bet he has tons of waifus under the age of 16
I think what happened is that Garnt’s friend was mistaken for a Japanese person, so the bar staff tolerated letting Garnt’s group in. But when they heard the friend’s voice they became suspicious that he was a foreigner, and once it was confirmed they then refused to provide service.
@@MegaJackolope Because they got in due to their friend possibly being Japanese and when she found out that their friend wasn't Japanese, Gigguk and Syd were kicked out with their friend too
A little nuance to the conversation, Garnt starts the story by saying "Japanese establishments have some tells" so it really wasn't the first time he experienced this level of racism, he just never experienced it to this degree. Don't know if he notices it.
I think he has high tolerance for discrimination. It is so prevalent that gaijins tend to develop resistance to it if they spend long periods of time in Japan.
It doesn't help that he also looks not very Japanese himself with that beard even though Asian. I'm Asian and maybe passed as a Japanese and speak Japanese too. Even if they know that I'm a foreigner eventually, I bet they will not have the courage to kick me out after I already sat and ordered some menus. It's if they found out before you sit that really makes them have the mean to kick you out
@@robustanybody5138Well, there won't be a Japan in 30-50 years if they refuse to integrate foreigners. Japan needs immigrants just as much as the immigrants need Japan.
@@robustanybody5138 It literally is though. Okinawa and Hokkaido are literally places Japan colonized where other people already lived, with different cultures and languages. Koreans and Chinese people have also lived in Japan for a long time.
It's so sad and pathetic seeing so many people apologizing for japan and acting like it's not racism. if it was any westren country doing that people would go ballistic. the double standards are insane.
Exactly. For example, a bunch of Japanese visiting were making clapping gestures when I was talking about the semiconductor industry using technical terms. Imagine if a White American did that to a Japanese worker in the US as he uses advanced vocab in a conversation. They would be locked up for a hate crime!
No, even in my country there is food stall that only for local because the owner is old he dont want many customer but he still open the shop for neighbourhood to hangout
Apparently whistleblowing's not a thing in Japan. Anyone can be sued for blaming or making fun of individuals. Tourists on the other hand, you can say anything
Having lived in Hawaii for most of my life？It goes the other way too. Locals are usually super friendly but most "Americans" living there always had something to say about tourists, most of which are Japanese (the tourists). Like straight everything like McDonalds Waikiki is jacked up in price. The ABC store that accepts Japanese yen prices all of their stuff higher on-top of whatever the exchange rate is (and an additional fee). Literally cigarettes were being sold for 11 bucks when right upstairs you could go to the drug store (this was in a mall) and buy a pack for 8. Taking advantage of tourists either in pricing or just service isn't new or unique to a specific place. It happens everywhere.
Visiting Japan as a black man was quite eye opening already in 2006. In my half a year working there got plenty of "sorry, japanese only" in restaurants and bars. That said, to be fair, I mostly got them from middle age to older people, young people in general were pretty chill with my presence. Went back in 2015 and things had gotten noticeably worse. It wasn't just bars or restaurants, I even got denied out of a couple ryokans and an onsen (and before you ask I got no tatoos). And I'm not talking about places in the boonies either, I'm talking about Tokyo, Kyoto and Osaka. At least I'll give them this: Out of all the racists I've had to face in my life, these are the most polite ones by far. Still feels pretty bad to be denied service or room and board because of the color of my skin, or to have people cross to the other side of the road while throwing shifty looks when you walk by, even some young people now a days, but it is what it is, I suppose.
Once yelled on kyoto station by a very drunk Japanese yelling Ami go home. It got strange after I explained that i am German and i told which castles temples and monestaries i had visited, praising the Japanese carpenters being full of respekt. I turned than from super nice to an unconfortable respose after he mentioned that we were really good allies in world war 2. Ups. But he was really wasted.
@@marinda653I was just suprised Shout mentioning world war 2 but I arrived I Hiroshima days before that and showed German remorse because the nukes were build for Germany back then. But I stayed 40min away from Kyoto in a ryokan in Omihachiman that was a former said brewery and I was able to bath in a massive sake barrel there had a epic time there. Nominations channels are epic sakura time look for videos here. And the best ramen for my taste in all of my visits to Japan was just n the right side of the station tonkotsu ramen with kimch topping. Had it 3 times blew my mind every time.
Today in the news: Mount Fujii has no snow cap. It's because the tourists heat up the temperature, cause the climate change in Japan and let the snow and ice melt! 🙄🙄
It's because tourists are taller and their head is closer to Fuji so the heat coming off of their head is melting snow on Fuji. DAMN YOU FOREIGNERS! I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU!!!
Well, I got refused service in a place with foreign workers, which was bizarre. Why would you hire foreigners and then refuse service to them? So you can pay them less and hike the prices under the false pretext you have to server foreigners! I guess?!
Because they know those foreigns but they don't know you. they want the good things that the west gets like cheep labor but not the bad thing that is having people like yourself in their country... those workers are enough.
I'm brazilian, and I'd love to visit Japan, specially because Brazil has the largest number of japanese people outside Japan, and we treat them really nicely here. It would be extremely crushing to go to Japan as a Brazilian and not receiving the same hospitality as the japanese recieve in Brazil when they visit or come to live.
What do you think would happen if they were nice to everybody tho? Japan would be invaded just like every country in the west and it wouldn't be Japan anymore.
Everyone thinks Japan is all sunshine and rainbows, but if you live there, the amount of psychological attacks is insane, even among Japanese people themselves.
@@wolfboy20 That person's rage-baiting probably. No need to waste your brain-cells on that basement-dweller. His perspective is probably the bullshit "Japan should stay pure" mentality.
There is no excuse, they are not excusing anything... did you hear they saying "based japan" is because they are being based. want to live in japanese society with safety and good places? yes? they will be racist, because that is the only way they will stay like that, people like you destroy places like japan, it would become tokyo would become san francisco if people like you had their way.
No, it's always been that way but now there are more outlets for exposure on social media. People couldn't vent their frustrations before but now everyone has a phone and tons of apps to click away their issues.
Usually it's not racism, it's xenophobia. The difference is that they don't have strong feelings about your culture being objectively worse, they just prefer their own and don't want to deal with yours. Obviously equally ignorant.
@@ratdoto2148 All racism is xenophobia, but not all xenophobia is racism. But there's generally not a point in trying to see a real distinction is real time since the end result is pretty similar without communication
@@ratdoto2148 not wanting something doesnt make you ignorant...not knowing something exists makes you ignorant. Rejecting or accepting different cultures or people is what all adults should decide by themselves. Racist is nonsesical word that came from the americans and had its use at a time where you couldnt travel or communicate with the whole word and a piece of paper was the only thing that fed you the news and propagandised you.
@@ratdoto2148 disagree i think one is worse than the other. But also somewhat justified because of all the horrible foreigner influencers like johny sommalli or logan paul treating japan like a magical fairyland with no reprocussions. No japanese person does the stuff so playing on the safe side and just banning all foreigners so that they wont have to deal with any trouble.
As a half Japanese person I never experienced anything like this, until I entered an izakaya with my white American husband a few years ago. They didn’t refuse services, but we were separated into a different area of the bar where only foreigners were seated. I also noticed that their English menu’s pricing was higher than the Japanese one I saw at the front of the izakaya 💀
This happens in every single tourist country. It happens in south America, east India, south Africa, everywhere. Its America and Brittain that are unique in generalized hospitality.
It's interesting moving from 'sphere' to 'sphere' in RUclips. Could you IMAGINE the response someone on RUclips would get if they said they came to America and had a store employee tell them they couldn't be served because they weren't American? As Huge Jackedman says: Just because it is, doesn't make it right; Just because it's right, doesn't mean it is.
@@krunkle5136 that's a joke right? I've been told to "go back to my country" when I was born here. My parents were born here. I've been followed around in stores in the Midwest when I was in college. Cousin was in Reno for college, constantly told that "our people" are only good for cleaning floors.
@@lopoa126no he is not joking. One the biggest things people tell Americans are there very loud and friendly. Your experience isn’t the average. But again racism and hate exist on every continent on this globe, and surprise surprise America isn’t an exception.
This is my first clip I've seen of the podcast in years and I remember why I stopped watching lol. I still love Garnt and Connor's solo content or collabs with other people but I stopped watching this and all of Joey's content because of himself. Glad he's also the one falling off the most. At this point just replace him with his dad and it'd be better.
What's with people excusing racism because some tourists have been poorly behaved? There's NO excuse. Period. Edit: Holy sht, the number of people trying to justify racism is mind boggling.
IThe fact that some foreigners behave annoyingly means that they carry the impression of the whole country. Please understand this and come to Japan as a tourist. Kyoto is in a bad situation right now. Japanese people are about to explode with stress.
I am gonna say something even crazy i am from India and kia built a factory near a town where i live so they built Korean restaurants to cater for Koreans living there and i kid you not they didnt serve indians .so,one of a rookie journalist tried to enter and they told him to leave coz he is indian from a restaurant they built on india
You want racism? Go to Korea. I've never met such rude customer service people and HOTEL STAFF than in South Korea. Especially if you're a brown skinned asian person. Even the Europeans that I met in the hotel told me they were shocked at how rude they were.
It’s funny when people realize America is the least racist county. I go to Latin countries and they squint at me and call me a chink. Same thing if I go to Europe. I get immunity in Asia but they are mega racist if you don’t have pale skin. Only in America is where I don’t openly get called slurs. It’s still bad here and you get glares in red states. But usually people are nice af.
@@Rajin90Man, this shit was already a thing before that Somali came to Korea and became a public nuisance. Still remember that SK and Thai hating against each other in a hotel.
Japan apologists out in full force. I love Japan but you already know it’s impossible to have a constructive conversation about Japan on Western media.
The country is clean and civil… something we now lack in our fractured individualisation. I don’t want them to be infected and their respectable culture undermined, if you want to be constructive I prepose there should be an intensive attitude test with little toleration of foreign misbehaviour.
@ there they are…do you also think salaryman culture needs to stay too? The fertility rate is must be a great sign? These are discussions that need to be had. It is very sad to see people being willingly blind.
@@V01DIORE have you actually visited japan before? their PM getting shotgunned by a pipe gun doesnt exactly correlate to a "clean and civil" country. everyone that says oh but japan is a clean and perfect country! we cant let it be tainted! only watch anime and think anime = real life. i guarantee you dont pay attention to the politics or issues of japan nor have you been there. you idolize them to the point where its a sickness.
I lived in Japan from 2000 to 2004 and this happened to me and friends several times for different reasons. One was because we were not Japanese, another because we were US military, and another time was because the bar was filled with Yakuza. It's a mixed bag of not wanting to deal with foreigners because of the language and culture barrier and prejudice. Back then, I wouldn't say over tourism was a thing, but I imagine interaction with unruly tourists or foreigners have gotten worse.
That's an odd thing to say. Because I often hear of Americans stationed over there as having a good time. So much so in fact that some of them have become arrogant enough to think that they could get any local girl they want. It's given me a very bad image of the US military being over there (and in other countries as well).
2:33 Garnt seeing the bar worker's face literally contort into an angry JoJo caricature that shouts "DAGA KOTOWARU" upon hearing that they're not Japanese.
Sad that it happened but its nice to see some push back and calling it out for what it is. If this happened to someone like Chris then he would be falling over backwards to brush it off as "they're just being careful" or some other bs.
Exactly, as much as I like Chris and his channel his blatant "Oh, it's just their culture" or "They're just being cautious after thing 'x' happened recently" is complete and utter BS. No, Chris that's absolute BS. Call it out for what it is - it's racism, plain and simple, there's no if's, but's or and's about it.
It HAS happened to Chris. Didn’t they get refused during the cycling across Japan in a rural part of Hokkaido or something? I don’t think even he defends that. When you’re integrated into Japan you can tell what can be given the benefit of the doubt and what has no other explanation but just racism.
Chris is something of a "tourism ambassador" and gets work/support from Japanese counties/prefectures etc.. He is not going to burn any bridges when his livelihood is linked to access to locations and people in Japan. He has upcoming video interviewing Tokyos mayor ffs. Do you think any foreign youtuber could get that?
@@controlcon Sorry but no, Chris's version of calling it out is as I mentioned above: he'll lightly brush over the subject and downplay it into the ground with what I already mentioned: "Oh, it's just their culture" or "They're just being cautious after thing 'x' happened recently" before quickly moving on. (Same with Peter Macy as well. He also downplays the issue into the ground. Actually the majority of YT Japan Vblogers for that matter) As I mentioned, I love Chris's channel but he'll never been seen talking about the bad side of Japan in any *serious* or truly meaningful manner. Any of his videos that do revolve around the 'negatives' of JP are always silly, insignificant, trivial things that in no way represent how bad their culture can sometimes be towards foreigners. Don't get me wrong JP can be an incredible place; I wouldn't have been living here for 10 years if it wasn't. But it's also a blatantly racist place were foreigners are treated nearly as second class citizens and we need more people with a massive platform like Chris's calling it out for what it is and not making it some scapegoat fallacy of "No, no; it's just their culture." type nonsense.
I've lived in Japan for 7 years now and in my experience, I'd say the majority of Japanese people would say this behavior is reprehensible, so I'm really not sure why so many non-Japanese are trying to excuse it.
Only to save face. If they had a choice between a bar full of a foreigners and Japanese, they will choose Japanese every single time. It's just a universal behaviour to prefer people of your own kind. Anyway, with the recent tourists making a massive mess of things like Johnny Salami, if you want something to blame, blame them instead of the businesses not wanting to spend the energy and money to pander to potential nuisances.
Everyone (news outlets) always focuses on the trouble foreigners and tourist's cause. Never the good. Or how they have influenced japanese culture today
It's very deliberate and it happens everywhere. Governments will like to pin their failings and ineptitude on things or people that have no representation. It's why dictatorships immediately jump to garnering popularity by blaming another country, and in recent years has also become a key tactic of right wing governments to blame migrants for everything. It's easier to say that things suck because of an "outside" group rather than accepting accountability.
Your attitude is pure western imperialism. Get over yourself. The Japanese have not bought into the Western liberal consensus nor do they need to. Its highly entitled to expect them to have the same social views as those from Europe or the USA. You're not a local so stop acting like you're entitled to be treated as though you are.
@@HappyZ3bra why not it's their country. Black people (I'm half Black) are openly racist to white people in America all the time. And nobody says anything.
One of my favorite fictional representations of racism is actually in a character that a lot of people don't even take seriously, Hody Jones from One Piece. When he gets asked why does he hate humans so much he just answers "because". You don't need a reason or a backstory to justify your hate to diferent people, you're just a piece of s***. It's sad but it's how it is.
If I remember correctly it was actually misunderstanding about blood transfusion where they kept the secret about the details of what happened resulting in racism
@@neonaaat6850this isn’t really true, he was just a sociopath/psychopath who just wanted a reason to kill people/gain power and just leveraged racism as a means to recruit people to his cause
I wonder if this had anything to do with Grant’s friend being Vietnamese. I’ve seen a lot of tik toks of the Japanese police abusing Vietnamese people.
I will be surprised if they are racist enough to know someone is Vietnamese by a glance. If anything, they probably thought they were Chinese which has really bad reputation in Japan right now after a case of failed assault, a murder of Japanese school children in China. Personally, I think this is just general racism.
That's because in recent years, there have been a lot of cases of Vietnamese doing petty crimes, grunt work for Chinese and S.Korean Mafia in Japan. Japanese media only reported S.Koreans and Vietnamese, but left out the Chinese worrying backlash from the CCP. Chinese tourists bring in a lot of money buying luxury goods in Japan and they don't want anything to affect it. Of course, the general public wouldn't know the in-depth details and only react to what they heard from the media. Crime is wrong, but the media reports aren't truthful, intentionally leaves out important facts for political/social reasons is also wrong. That's why you won't find reports on CCP little pinks who went to Japan to do propaganda and harassments. Source? I am Vietnamese and our family have been doing business with Japan for over 20 years. We got the information from our Japanese business clients, even they were upset for us.
lol You seem to have no idea what the Vietnamese are doing in Japan. There are more than 10,000 illegal Vietnamese in Japan. And many of the large-scale thefts that are currently rampant in Japan are committed by Vietnamese groups.
I once knew a japanese girl who who was an exchange student at our Uni. This topic came up and she told us that employees sometimes get the order from their boss to not serve foreigners. They can get in real trouble, If it comes out that they did. She also told me that most older people like 40+ see this as preserving their culture. The newer generations know that this is plain old discrimination. That's also because the younger generation travels more and sees that the western world is more open. Funny enough the older ones, like 65, 70+ don't see it this harsh. I don't know were this generational stubbornness and racism comes from.
I was in Japan for a recent Hololive-Solo Concert a week early to see some sights and do some shopping. and yeah there were indeed places that didn't allow foreigners in some establishments if i went in alone. in my case it was different i was just walking around with my DSLR on my neck sending the feed to my phone as i took photo's, videos of city landscapes and a bunch of Japanese people giving me that bombastic side-eye. (I was talking to my friend over the phone) and i heard someone whisper "RUclipsr". turns out when i went to the concert and talked to some of my friends about it they mentioned "Trauma" from Foreign RUclipsrs and content creators, like Somali. Would this be a resurgence of the hidden racism that was kept hidden because of these irresponsible content creators? maybe? maybe not? who knows?
What’s going on here?! It’s honestly frustrating and disappointing. Refusing service to foreigners just because they’re not Japanese is discriminatory, no matter how you look at it-especially when the people involved can speak Japanese and follow the local norms. Why should anyone support this kind of treatment by going to places that clearly don’t welcome foreigners? Japan may be beautiful, but if foreign visitors aren’t accepted, maybe it’s time to rethink our travel choices and expectations.
Why ? There are alot of reason why people refuse serve people under circumstances. I saw alot of bad tourist coming to japan just to be bad person in there Country. Dont forget if you cant speak japanese they dont wanna deal with it. Its not even discriminatory just because you feel like it. You need to look up what some bad foreigner do at times.
Well Japan is for the Japanese first and foremost. Secondly, you can’t blame them especially since so many foreigners have been just misbehaving and being a nuisance in their country. I think it’s making the Japanese see why they had Sakoku for nearly 200 years.
@@Keidoyume They could speak Japanese, were able to order drinks and still were refused service solely because they’re foreigners. So, are you saying it would be okay if someone visited a restaurant in the U.S. or Germany, spoke English or German, ordered without any issues, but was refused service just because they looked Asian? I can’t imagine that happening, and even more, I can’t imagine anyone saying, “That’s fine; the restaurant has the right to refuse whoever they want.” Is that what you’re really suggesting?
All the crap the West gets about being "systemically racist" and this is the average comparison. If a restaurant or bar did this to someone in any Western city, it would probably be the death of the establishment. Although funny enough, in America, I think this is much less likely in the first place, and that's with the significant difference in population. Every culture has positives and negatives. I've appreciated aspects of Japanese culture my whole life, but that also means being honest about the issues. And the reaction to the tweet is about right. This is what happens when society gets super tribal and everything is put through an intersectional lens.
@@sylvariatzaka Well that's sort of a semantic point. Would you prefer I said it was xenophobic instead? That's basically just being racist to anyone who is different, I wouldn't call that any better. My point still stands that the West isn't anywhere near as racist as the media would have you believe. And the global contemporary comparison just makes the West look less racist. I don't think Japanese people are evil or anything I'm just saying if we're going to hold the West to an impossible standard let's either apply that to the rest of world or preferably we just stop hyper focusing on intersectionality in general.
@@KevanWalter It's not semantics at all, they are two completely different words with completely different meanings and completely different reason for feeling each of them. People use the word 'racism' for EVERYTHING nowadays and 99% of the time it's wrong from an English language standpoint.
@@sylvariatzaka how is this not semantic? Both are discrimination based on differences. Sure, xenophobia might cover a broader spectrum of discrimination but race is definitely a major aspect of what is it means to be xenophobic. If I'm wrong, you tell me what's so different between the two in a practical sense? And ya claims of discrimination and racism are way over prescribed but that's almost entirely in relation to western culture and politics. I just think the msm or left-wing politics/culture people should either judge all nations under the same standards or ya just stop viewing everything through the intersectional lens of DEI.
@@KevanWalter It's not semantic because xenophobia is acceptable in my eyes and blatant racism isn't. They are two completely different words with different meanings.
The way people bend over backwards to excuse this from Japan and literally no where else will always make me laugh, it’s so fucking stupid yet people will always do the “Thing in Japan 😍” meme
@@Akimbo411 No they shouldn't We're all humans, the same fucking species so no it is not justifiable to want to be separated from the people that are the same as us but just from a different region
@@Akimbo411 what other nation does this besides Japan? All of American North and south doesn’t do this, name me a single European country that does this? African? Does Australia do this? No it’s just Asia, Japan the most. Japan is so crazy xenophobic and we excuse it as a quirk and not as crazy. I personally would never visit Japan I find the whole nation to be terrible but to each their own. But if we would take Japan at its word and just let it isolate itself into oblivion I would be perfectly fine with that.
@@TeppiaxD Bruh are you serious? Places all over the world operate like this. Most places don't even accept foreigners like Russia and if you do go there, they could easily kick you out if your foreign. A simple solution would be simply not letting foreigners in Japan. Japan for the Japanese it's not some playground
There's a yakiniku in Osaka around Temma that denied me entry. I think it had a lot to do with the people who were with me. Mind you, I do speak japanese, and I am vietnamese. So when I let them know "yonin", to which they were initially okay, but they backtracked their invitation once they heard my friends speaking english while I was translating and decided to hit me with the "owarimashita". My beef with Kansai region is spaaaaarking
Thank you for talking about this. First time this has happened to Grant after living in Japan for 5 years. It just goes to show, that at the end of the day, everyone's experiences can be different. Various different situations, little nuances, or whatever it may be. It's easy for a lot of these influencer Japan videos to say "This is how Japan is" as a blanket statement, while reality can be a lot more complicated.
I was just in japan, and for the first time in four trips there over 15 years, i went into a bar, the barkeeper saw me and my 3 friends (all white, so obviously not japanese) and said get out quite loud. Now i have gotten turned away before, and that is just how it is, but its quite another thing to just get told "get out".
I Hate the distinction, and futher categorization of the simple concept "Hate you because you are different" Everyone knows racism. I don't even care if you mean classist imma just call it racism.
I visited this small restaurant in Shibuya, on the outskirts kind of. It wasn't racist, they were extremely nice but one of the guests just stared at me while i was eating a lunch set, and while I only know a little bit of Japanese, he was saying stuff like: "why is he here" in a rude way. The workers there though were so nice though!
10:14 Lady drinks prices vary from bar to bar. You can expect lady drink prices to be minimum 50% more than normal "customer drinks". The majority of the ladies' salaries will come from lady drink sales, taking a % of each drink on top of their daily salary which will be on the low side. This can explain why the ladies are closely watching you, should you decide to ask one to come drink with you.
I was in Tokyo during that major Rugby match some years ago. There were foreigners all over the place, and to be honest, they were being quite rowdy. The bars in the area I was at started refusing service to them, I think mostly because there were so many of them, locals would have been driven out. There were still some bars that didn't have any customers at all but were refusing service. Luckily, I was with a Japanese native at the time who convinced them to let us in.
People should be centering the discussion around this: "why is Japan the only developed country with no anti-discrimination legislation, and how do we put pressure on their government to implement such laws?" This is actually a civil rights issue, and it has far-reaching consequences to people living in Japan, from finding apartments to employment. It's not just about not being able to sit down in some seedy bar, because its owner is a racist. Why are the same people who soyface and point their fingers at China, or any middle eastern country, justifying the most chauvinistic foreign policy towards them because "no pride parades and racism 😱", now saying there's no problem just because it's Japan?
In Conner and Chris's video about love hotel they mentioned that Japan has legalized two men entering and using the services of a love hotel, but many establishments still kicked Conner and Chris out the moment they were seen together (even the janitor has the guts to tell them off). I think Japan is so divided on the topic of inclusivity that simply legalize it will not work. I can even imagine that a portion of the native Japanese population will still not back down when they got penalized by the law. It is very frustrating indeed. To be open to different perspectives while feeling secure about your own beliefs is not an easy thing to bestow on people. Some will need to improve their emotional intelligence first in order to understand the reasoning behind the legislations. And I agree this applies to everyone regardless of their ethnicity and nationality.
@@Stinkyboots82 No, simply enacting anti-discrimination legislation won't solve the issue. You're right. Which is why it's even more important that such laws be implemented, so that the social process of unlearning xenophobia can actually begin: because it has the backing of a law. As it stands, the people are allowed, and even encouraged to feel safe, and entitled in their bigotry, on an institutional level. This is not okay, and is not about foreigners dictating policy to Japan. Because it affects their own people as well. The Ryukyuan, Ainu, and Korean people who live, and have grown up in Japan, still face systemic discrimination. The same is true of the 'hafus'. You can be denied entry, or apartment, or employment, just because one of your parents is foreign born, even though you've never known anything else, except life in Japan. This is an issue, which urgently needs legislation to address it. Anyone who denies this is not arguing in good faith.
Its strange to me that japan for being known as a rule abiding society, that laws related to discrimination aren't followed, like japan will obey so many laws/social norms that seem too strict, yet don't obey laws related to that. I wonder why that is a case, is it that the discrimination is too entrenched in their culture, that it overrides the supposed rule abiding nature?
@kr555wizard The truth is that Japan is less of a rule abiding society, and more of a social pressure society. It's just that the majority of the time, those two go hand in hand here.
This cover for Japan as "Its cool its not racist" is Cope. If anybody else pulled this in Europe or the West they would have their buiesness license removed and charged with a hate crime.
So many riders in this comment section lol. Not surprising this clip blew up and hit the algorithm which attracted a lot of people who are not TT fans and are Japan’s riders just like Sydney’s post did!
Hopefully the internet becomes a gateway for this kinda stuff to slowly fade away. Especially since in recent years the gap has somewhat been closing up.
I faced this as well. I made a reservation on tablelog months in advance and literally the night before my reservation day, the restaurant emailed me saying sorry we cannot serve you because you don’t speak Japanese. What the actual fuck. I emailed them saying why the fuck did they tell me the night before. One of the worst things about Japan
@ don’t be stupid. You seriously cannot be mad at me cussing out the restaurant that treated me like shit and basically told me to gtfo. Please do not be this stupid. I wouldn’t want to go anywhere near you either
racist - the belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another. xenophobia - dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries
I also have friend who worked in Japan as non native born Japanese and he kept getting discriminated as they all ask him about his origin or based on his accent
@@pencilcheck bruh You believe i'm going to start feeling bad just because this random person saw bad things on the internet about my country and thinks that all my people is bad because of those things????
I feel that this is a Tokyo or Kyoto issue. It's not like this is Tochigi as far as I know. But then again, in rural areas, Foreigners aren't as common, nor are they As problematic. Still the treatment wasn't right. Indeed it counts as Sabetsu (Discrimination), which is (I wanna say Not) legal, I think.
I was in Japan looking forward to this bbq place. The hostess was going to seat us when a guy came out of the kitchen and said there’s no room, it will be an hour wait. So we waited a few minutes noticing other people coming in and getting seated.
@@renarenacat We checked for reservations before we went, they don't take reservations. And theres no way the guy that came out of the kitchen would have known if we had a reservation or not.
@@renarenacatNope, that's just what they do over there. Saying that a restaurant is "reserved" usually just means they don't want non-Japanese people around. It happened to my wife and I a few times.
@@SleepyMatt-zzz I live in japan for 20 years and only seen 1 girls bar and few ramen shop that doesn't allow non-japaneses speaker because of language barrier. It's definitely not a common thing.
Try being a Chinese and go to Japan and Korea.. you'll get the worst treatment even though you're not from Mainland China (granted that they don't know where you're from from just look, but why would they want to waste time learning about it 1st).
I'll add this. Japanese take preventative measures. That means that even if you are a perfectly-behaved gaijin, they will get rid of you because they don't want to take any chances. And they don't care about hurting your feelings because you are not part of their value system at all. In many cases, the owner or staff kicking you out might actually like foreigners, but they know that they will start losing business as many customers simply do not feel comfortable with foreigners around. Again, you could act ten times more polite than a Japanese person and speak flawless Japanese, but it won't change a thing.
How does this sound to you? "I'm a white man, I own a restaurant, I don't want black people around because I heard that black people are in gangs and are obnoxious, so I kick them out because I don't want to take any chances" Does that sound any different to you? The uncomfortable truth is that this is what some Japanese people do to tourists and non-Japanses who live in the country.
Yeah it happened to me too. But they would say oh were full or something. But you def got the feeling that you were refused because of racism. Still enjoyed my time there
For some reason people don’t understand that Japanese are as human as we foreigners are and have the same flaws that we experience in our own countries.
well most in this comment section dont even understand why japanese act that way. Seems like they dont understand how bad some tourist act in japan. Specialy the result of bad education from people around the world. I would be the same if people see so many bad apples that do bad stuff.
Now thats just overreacting. Don't become part of the problem, and generalise a whole as country off of one bar. There are plenty of amazing people there, but by probability there are obviously badly raised ones. Just like in every other country and in every culture. Thats just human nature. Some do it with ill intent, some are just curious. In a place where you dont get as much foreigers, theyre bound to be curious, don't misunderstand it as being rude. Its just a different culture. In South East Asia , if anyone ever sees a foreigner, they will be curious, they will nag, they will do things considered rude to some cultures. Its not ill intent, theyre just curious, in a way they were raised. Dont just claim a country has a certain problem without even visiting. Were just not understanding each other.
Yeah that experience would be absolutely degrading. Especially after already entering the bar, ordering and the question being asked after ordering. Definitely understand the anger, cuz imagine if every Asian tourist came to experience America and was turned away for either not being American or not speaking English. They'd definitely have a lot to say about that.
@@starjun8144millions of Asians from Asian countries visit America every year. There are not millions of asians getting robbed, mugged, or denied service for no reason. America has a plethora of problems. But let’s not exaggerate.
Ive been to japan and personally experienced this. That said, i kinda understand it, at least in Tokyo or the big metropolis. There are wayyy too many tourists or foreign people, waaaay to many, everywhere. And i just try to put myself in their shoes and hell man, i imagine being japanese, not being completely confident on my english, wanting to chill after a hard day at my job and arriving to a bar filled with tourists who find us japanese so foreign that we're kinda like an amusement park. It must be so draining, so I'm actually ok for them to have their own space that isnt filled to the brim with tourists, where they can still just be themselves and chill with people with their own problems and grievances. As for it being "racist" yeah, id say it is (to us).But we are tourists in a foreign country. Who says our way of thinking is the only one. Ive read interviews of japanese people being upset about occidental people trying to impose our beliefs on them for media like movies and games. Which to a hyperbolic degree, id compare to china trying to impose their way of life to us, which of course we'd find ridiculous. In a city where everywhere you look theres a tourists, i think its more than reasonable to have safe havens for them.
To the racism defenders: Joey calls it racism, you have no leg to stand on. Equally would you call it ‘culture’ when women get harassed in Japan? No, it isn’t acceptable.
@@aikighost it is racism tho, what are you on about? Japan can isolate itself as much as it wants. There are no sugarcoating needed. Do you not understand the basic ethics of right and wrong? Is morality purely subjective because of "culture". Literally ideas of an illiterate person.
@@johnmiller6696 your thinking is western imperialist in nature "My values are the only allowable ones" is the thought process of a totalitarian. Basically you think you are allowed to proscribe the social values of other peoples and nations because you have decided unilaterally you're correct. Essentially you're a crypto fascist.
@@aikighost Moral realism, read up on it. People outside Japan aren't gonna be enforcing morals in Japan (for the most part, human right treaties exist), but anyone can absolutely determine what is or isn't moral.
ironically what would solve this would be 1/5 star any rascist busniess so tourist would avoid them, but both tourist and japanese treat their google rating purely for food and the actual eating experience instead of every experience
They don't want gaijin, what are you talking about? yeah bro, japan is racist, big surprise. just don't go there, i don't want to go there. japanese would go there more knowing they dont want gaijin, you don't understand that they don't like people that dont look japanese, you think this is some gay bar in california or something.
@@jamesmccomb9525 are you the type of person to support Japanese interment camps in America during WW2? I mean after all, they are such a small percent of the population at the time, so they don't matter?
@@DubhghlasMacDubhghlas I'm talking about it from the perspective of a politician. There's no reason why the living standards or protections of minorities in Japan would improve without representation in government or economic pull. If racism is to actually be mitigated then a "foreigner" would need to make their voice heard in government either by running as a candidate for office or through citizen's appeals. Neither of which are likely to happen.
@@jamesmccomb9525 Japan has various anti discrimination laws. And just like within the US just because something is illegal doesn't mean people don't do it. And you know really don't know Japanese citizenship requirement and there is next to none foreign born citizens. And yes, your whole first comment comes off as yeah let Japanese people discriminate. And your explainer is still yeah let Japanese people discriminate because there will be never enough foreign born citizens to do what you want.
I think at this point it's because of the Nuisance foreigner streamers whoa re literally ruining it for all foreign tourists in japan. If people behaved respectively and accordingly then they wouldn't have all these restrictions toward us.
While very true I think you would find it very difficult to find someone in America actually get kicked out of a bar just for their skin color. They might not be treated the greatest but to actually refuse service and get kicked out woudnt happen. You have a better chance being kicked out based off being male or female.
Damn I’ve been here 10 years and never experienced. I guess that’s the best part about Okinawa, most facilities would go out of business if they refused foreigners over here
love when you choose to portray an entire country as being like this when it's clear that not every business does that (garnt said this was the first time in 5 years) not to mention some foreigners have not exactly given them a good impression of tourists
i love how everyone ignores this. Its not about race. You arent being refused because of your race. YOu're being refused because you people have a track record of being destructive, rude, obnoxious and disrespectful. Guess thats not outrage bait worthy enough huh. Or perhaps its easier to cry and blame others than it is to take responsibility.
western casual racism vs eastern competitive racism
Me when I enter a racism competition and my opponent pulls up in a white sheet with eye holes
@@VDA19 Silly you, who hates only those of other color. I socially indoctrinate an entire ethno-homogenous country into hating everyone who isn't them! And forget everything you heard about the Ainu.
@@VDA19 Me when i enter a racism competition and my opponent pulls up with a rising sun flag
@@Ren-qd3gkgiven the chance, the japs during ww2 would have started competing for mass numbers using the Chinese
@@VDA19the difference is we imprison those people now
Funny how so many people, even in these comments, wanna try downplaying or excusing blatant racism in Japan. If this occurred in any other country y'all would be outraged.
Edit: FYI to the *special* people talking about "culture": No, kicking people out of a bar for not being Japanese isn't "culture", it's plain racism. Stop trying to justify it.
Ikr? Imagine if someone tried pulling, “it’s their country, their rules” about segregation in 1930’s USA? They’d be rightfully laughed at.
What’s going on in Japan obviously isn’t as bad, but it’s also obviously still the same concept. Just because they have “less” segregation, that doesn’t make it okay. It’s not okay to have *any* segregation.
Oh it's 100% there, been twice and been refused service MULTIPLE times.
hot take but the overreactions to the black dude dancing on the train are part of the same issue - sure, he was annoying, but if it had happened in any other country no one would have even heard about it, meanwhile we got hundreds of videos about how foreigners in japan are out of control or something.
it's not racism. it's xenophobia. Big difference.
@@ceshmate1953 Exhibit A right here
I experienced this in Nakatsugawa, Japan. Tried to enter 2 restaurants (one izakaya and a more sit down place) with my girlfriend and was told they were full both times, even though I could clearly see open seats everywhere in the space, tables and bar. I even said “We can wait for a seat to open” and the Japanese hostess just shook her head no. After leaving the second place (which we were just told was full) a Japanese couple entered and were seated right away. Having it happen immediately upon entering the establishment and happening twice in the same night really left a bad taste in my mouth. Luckily the next day I meet an incredibly nice Japanese man who very nice and welcoming and reminded me that not all Japanese are like this, but it certainly exists. Very jarring to experience blatant and shameless racism and xenophobia like that outta nowhere though.
And they are right in being like that... you want to live in japan? they will be racist, that is it.
want to be multicultural? europe and the U.S.A is there for you.
@@ArlindoBuritiChange your profile picture to something less embarrassing and maybe then people will start taking you more seriously
@@kotorandcorvid4968 he's a proud spokesperson of japan, even though he hasn't been there or even speak the language but i bet he has tons of waifus under the age of 16
So go hme and don;t come back. Zcolonizer, telling an ancient culture thay must follow your values.
Some people have reservations.
Racism somewhere else 😠
Racism in Japan 😍
It's not racism
Pretty sure it is bud @@k3m0t19
@k3m0t19 it is.
Being kicked out a restaurant for not being a certain race is in fact racism lil bro
@@k3m0t19 it is more like xenophobia technically I guess.......since it does not target a specific race......nonetheless....crazy.
@@tbeast151 Xenophobia, they were not Japanese. Japan is not a race it is a nationality.
I think what happened is that Garnt’s friend was mistaken for a Japanese person, so the bar staff tolerated letting Garnt’s group in. But when they heard the friend’s voice they became suspicious that he was a foreigner, and once it was confirmed they then refused to provide service.
100% that's it.
How does this explain anything?
@@MegaJackolope Because they got in due to their friend possibly being Japanese and when she found out that their friend wasn't Japanese, Gigguk and Syd were kicked out with their friend too
They probably thought he was just another nuisance streamer like Johnny Somali. Definitely not telling the full story of why he was kicked out.
@@chuckyaruss1627tell me you know nothing about japan without telling me you know nothing about japan
A little nuance to the conversation, Garnt starts the story by saying "Japanese establishments have some tells" so it really wasn't the first time he experienced this level of racism, he just never experienced it to this degree. Don't know if he notices it.
I think he has high tolerance for discrimination. It is so prevalent that gaijins tend to develop resistance to it if they spend long periods of time in Japan.
It doesn't help that he also looks not very Japanese himself with that beard even though Asian. I'm Asian and maybe passed as a Japanese and speak Japanese too. Even if they know that I'm a foreigner eventually, I bet they will not have the courage to kick me out after I already sat and ordered some menus. It's if they found out before you sit that really makes them have the mean to kick you out
@@hexen2801 japan is not multicultural
stop trying to make it one
@@robustanybody5138Well, there won't be a Japan in 30-50 years if they refuse to integrate foreigners.
Japan needs immigrants just as much as the immigrants need Japan.
@@robustanybody5138 It literally is though. Okinawa and Hokkaido are literally places Japan colonized where other people already lived, with different cultures and languages. Koreans and Chinese people have also lived in Japan for a long time.
It's so sad and pathetic seeing so many people apologizing for japan and acting like it's not racism. if it was any westren country doing that people would go ballistic. the double standards are insane.
Exactly. For example, a bunch of Japanese visiting were making clapping gestures when I was talking about the semiconductor industry using technical terms. Imagine if a White American did that to a Japanese worker in the US as he uses advanced vocab in a conversation. They would be locked up for a hate crime!
Facts. Not even just Western countries but say China, Korea, etc... People idolize Japan so much it's insane.
No, even in my country there is food stall that only for local because the owner is old he dont want many customer but he still open the shop for neighbourhood to hangout
They obviously don't hold Japan to the same standards as western countries. Why would you?
@@songandwind72that probably wouldn’t happen.
Apparently whistleblowing's not a thing in Japan. Anyone can be sued for blaming or making fun of individuals. Tourists on the other hand, you can say anything
Having lived in Hawaii for most of my life？It goes the other way too.
Locals are usually super friendly but most "Americans" living there always had something to say about tourists, most of which are Japanese (the tourists).
Like straight everything like McDonalds Waikiki is jacked up in price. The ABC store that accepts Japanese yen prices all of their stuff higher on-top of whatever the exchange rate is (and an additional fee). Literally cigarettes were being sold for 11 bucks when right upstairs you could go to the drug store (this was in a mall) and buy a pack for 8.
Taking advantage of tourists either in pricing or just service isn't new or unique to a specific place. It happens everywhere.
based japan.
There's a law for defamation here in Japan which can land you a heavy fine or jail time depending on who you said something bad about.
@@Eedra I heard something about a guy who was caught cheating on his wife in public. Someone shared a picture online and he sued for defamation
@@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4Japanese and Mainland American drive up prices
Visiting Japan as a black man was quite eye opening already in 2006. In my half a year working there got plenty of "sorry, japanese only" in restaurants and bars. That said, to be fair, I mostly got them from middle age to older people, young people in general were pretty chill with my presence. Went back in 2015 and things had gotten noticeably worse. It wasn't just bars or restaurants, I even got denied out of a couple ryokans and an onsen (and before you ask I got no tatoos). And I'm not talking about places in the boonies either, I'm talking about Tokyo, Kyoto and Osaka.
At least I'll give them this: Out of all the racists I've had to face in my life, these are the most polite ones by far. Still feels pretty bad to be denied service or room and board because of the color of my skin, or to have people cross to the other side of the road while throwing shifty looks when you walk by, even some young people now a days, but it is what it is, I suppose.
Atleast they will respectively deny you. Koreans on the other hand are pretty bold with their discrimination
Sorry to hear that.
@@tajup8741Lol "at least"
@@tajup8741 AT LEAST..... bro
@@tajup8741 lmao at least? dam you are so far removed
Japan's Cheese Shortage is probably down to Chris Broad 😂
Ah yes, another cheese board please!
No thats the Famichiki shortage
Because he is Mr Affable Chreese Board
Definitely if it’s Camembert cheese
Once yelled on kyoto station by a very drunk Japanese yelling Ami go home. It got strange after I explained that i am German and i told which castles temples and monestaries i had visited, praising the Japanese carpenters being full of respekt. I turned than from super nice to an unconfortable respose after he mentioned that we were really good allies in world war 2. Ups.
But he was really wasted.
😂😆
You be like: Chotto ma'scuse me?
This made me laugh so hard.😂 It's so good as if it's a scripted joke with that punchline. 🤣
Sorry, it happened to you though...
@@aLonelyAndLameOtaku"nani the what is this old guy saying!?"
@@marinda653I was just suprised Shout mentioning world war 2 but I arrived I Hiroshima days before that and showed German remorse because the nukes were build for Germany back then.
But I stayed 40min away from Kyoto in a ryokan in Omihachiman that was a former said brewery and I was able to bath in a massive sake barrel there had a epic time there. Nominations channels are epic sakura time look for videos here.
And the best ramen for my taste in all of my visits to Japan was just n the right side of the station tonkotsu ramen with kimch topping. Had it 3 times blew my mind every time.
Today in the news: Mount Fujii has no snow cap. It's because the tourists heat up the temperature, cause the climate change in Japan and let the snow and ice melt! 🙄🙄
lol cant argue with that
Nah, it‘s because the tourists ate all the snow just like they did with all the rice 😋
Well, China has 50% of all coal plants in the world. So if one wants to blame foreigners, it's an easy place to point your finger.
It's because tourists are taller and their head is closer to Fuji so the heat coming off of their head is melting snow on Fuji. DAMN YOU FOREIGNERS! I WILL NEVER FORGIVE YOU!!!
Lmaooo 😂
Well, I got refused service in a place with foreign workers, which was bizarre. Why would you hire foreigners and then refuse service to them? So you can pay them less and hike the prices under the false pretext you have to server foreigners! I guess?!
A lot of places don't want to deal with foreigners because foreigners bring their entitlements and issues with them and force them onto people.
Because they know those foreigns but they don't know you.
they want the good things that the west gets like cheep labor but not the bad thing that is having people like yourself in their country... those workers are enough.
the difference between you and those foreign workers is that they can speak japanese fluently and you can't.
Like that bar in who framed roger rabbit
I think something like that is less excusable. People should just pick a lane. Either all foreigners are allowed. Or none of them are
lots of people in the comments like: "oh its not racism its xenophobia and its ok, even it it was racist it would be ok because i love anime"
I'm brazilian, and I'd love to visit Japan, specially because Brazil has the largest number of japanese people outside Japan, and we treat them really nicely here. It would be extremely crushing to go to Japan as a Brazilian and not receiving the same hospitality as the japanese recieve in Brazil when they visit or come to live.
What do you think would happen if they were nice to everybody tho? Japan would be invaded just like every country in the west and it wouldn't be Japan anymore.
Everyone thinks Japan is all sunshine and rainbows, but if you live there,
the amount of psychological attacks is insane, even among Japanese people themselves.
Yes. Lived it too.
@@hollowmusicx japan is not multicultural
Stop trying to make to one
@@robustanybody5138What does that have to do with Japan hanging major issues?? There was no mention of multiculturalism 😐😐
@@wolfboy20 That person's rage-baiting probably. No need to waste your brain-cells on that basement-dweller.
His perspective is probably the bullshit "Japan should stay pure" mentality.
@@wolfboy20 he lived there...😑😑
Hate that people excuse this behaviour. It’s blatant racism and xenophobia.
There is no excuse, they are not excusing anything... did you hear they saying "based japan" is because they are being based.
want to live in japanese society with safety and good places? yes? they will be racist, because that is the only way they will stay like that, people like you destroy places like japan, it would become tokyo would become san francisco if people like you had their way.
@@ArlindoBuritiHad their way...by entering a bar. Did your mother drop you on your head at birth or what?
@@ArlindoBuriti get help
look at your pfp. I would remove you from the bar as well.
Can you explain how it's racist if it doesn't target a single race but instead encompasses all foreigners?
Japan lives in 1950 with this one 💀
@ conwell4156 wrong no more skull emoji
Good
The best time.
good.
@@ArlindoBuriti yeah, leftist new deal policies really made the 50's the best decade in US history, didn't it?
No, it's always been that way but now there are more outlets for exposure on social media. People couldn't vent their frustrations before but now everyone has a phone and tons of apps to click away their issues.
No doubt. Actually the things that happened before the internet are atrocious
So stop going and ruining Japan for the Japanese.
Failed the persuasion check.
Ah racism? No way
Usually it's not racism, it's xenophobia. The difference is that they don't have strong feelings about your culture being objectively worse, they just prefer their own and don't want to deal with yours. Obviously equally ignorant.
@@ratdoto2148it's both.
@@ratdoto2148 All racism is xenophobia, but not all xenophobia is racism. But there's generally not a point in trying to see a real distinction is real time since the end result is pretty similar without communication
@@ratdoto2148 not wanting something doesnt make you ignorant...not knowing something exists makes you ignorant. Rejecting or accepting different cultures or people is what all adults should decide by themselves. Racist is nonsesical word that came from the americans and had its use at a time where you couldnt travel or communicate with the whole word and a piece of paper was the only thing that fed you the news and propagandised you.
@@ratdoto2148 disagree i think one is worse than the other. But also somewhat justified because of all the horrible foreigner influencers like johny sommalli or logan paul treating japan like a magical fairyland with no reprocussions. No japanese person does the stuff so playing on the safe side and just banning all foreigners so that they wont have to deal with any trouble.
As a half Japanese person I never experienced anything like this, until I entered an izakaya with my white American husband a few years ago. They didn’t refuse services, but we were separated into a different area of the bar where only foreigners were seated. I also noticed that their English menu’s pricing was higher than the Japanese one I saw at the front of the izakaya 💀
Damn, getting treated like garbage while getting scammed is just next level. I guess people are too polite to call their bullshit.
@@nix294 Or it's because the Japanese police aren't going to be on your side
This happens in every single tourist country. It happens in south America, east India, south Africa, everywhere. Its America and Brittain that are unique in generalized hospitality.
It's interesting moving from 'sphere' to 'sphere' in RUclips. Could you IMAGINE the response someone on RUclips would get if they said they came to America and had a store employee tell them they couldn't be served because they weren't American? As Huge Jackedman says: Just because it is, doesn't make it right; Just because it's right, doesn't mean it is.
I'd go further, swap out "American" with "White".
That would be weird because America is a very tolerant country. Not every country is nor should.
@@krunkle5136 that's a joke right? I've been told to "go back to my country" when I was born here. My parents were born here. I've been followed around in stores in the Midwest when I was in college. Cousin was in Reno for college, constantly told that "our people" are only good for cleaning floors.
MAGA would justify it as "protecting our country"
@@lopoa126no he is not joking. One the biggest things people tell Americans are there very loud and friendly. Your experience isn’t the average. But again racism and hate exist on every continent on this globe, and surprise surprise America isn’t an exception.
Lol bro is calling racism "questionable"...
"it's racism if I can't go to every bar in japan and change their demographics"
People like you are fucking worthless
"Nuanced" even XD
Bro has no enemies
I'm talking about Garnt
This is my first clip I've seen of the podcast in years and I remember why I stopped watching lol. I still love Garnt and Connor's solo content or collabs with other people but I stopped watching this and all of Joey's content because of himself. Glad he's also the one falling off the most. At this point just replace him with his dad and it'd be better.
Can you explain how it's racist if it doesn't target a single race but instead encompasses all foreigners?
Refusing service because of race is wrong, and I'm tired of people pretending it's not or giving it a pass
It's insane the mental gymnastics some youtubers do to excuse the blatant racism as "culture" * cough * Chris Broad * cough *
What's with people excusing racism because some tourists have been poorly behaved? There's NO excuse. Period.
Edit: Holy sht, the number of people trying to justify racism is mind boggling.
I mean, it's not just some.
@N0thing2SeaHere Yes, it IS just some; the overwhelming majority of tourists are respectful.
IThe fact that some foreigners behave annoyingly means that they carry the impression of the whole country. Please understand this and come to Japan as a tourist. Kyoto is in a bad situation right now. Japanese people are about to explode with stress.
Because people love Japan so much they will excuse any shitty aspect of it
Because they are weebs simple
I am gonna say something even crazy i am from India and kia built a factory near a town where i live so they built Korean restaurants to cater for Koreans living there and i kid you not they didnt serve indians .so,one of a rookie journalist tried to enter and they told him to leave coz he is indian from a restaurant they built on india
Then who do they serve?
@ koreans living there who came to work at kia factory
That's insane lol
2nd comment i see korea dont serve people same as japan
saar. Dond redeem the kia restaurants.
You want racism? Go to Korea. I've never met such rude customer service people and HOTEL STAFF than in South Korea. Especially if you're a brown skinned asian person. Even the Europeans that I met in the hotel told me they were shocked at how rude they were.
It’s funny when people realize America is the least racist county. I go to Latin countries and they squint at me and call me a chink. Same thing if I go to Europe. I get immunity in Asia but they are mega racist if you don’t have pale skin.
Only in America is where I don’t openly get called slurs. It’s still bad here and you get glares in red states. But usually people are nice af.
It's Johnny Salami's fault.
@@Rajin90Man, this shit was already a thing before that Somali came to Korea and became a public nuisance. Still remember that SK and Thai hating against each other in a hotel.
@@Rajin90wish that it was that simple, asia is like this before that guy was born
@@beembaam5808 Yeah fr. Before his conception, before his parents met, Hell even before his parents even existed Asia has been racist.
I mean Japan has a huge racism/xenophobia problem that people always downplay. Garnts situation is absolutely unacceptable.
Can you explain how it's racist if it doesn't target a single race but instead encompasses all foreigners?
@@sylvariatzakawould you accept an American establishment that refused to serve foreigners?
@@sylvariatzaka Uuh yes it's called Xenophobia.
Racism isn't xenophobia.
@@darculas2625 Yes. I think people have the right to do whatever they want to maintain their culture and way of life.
Japan apologists out in full force. I love Japan but you already know it’s impossible to have a constructive conversation about Japan on Western media.
Maybe stop trying to force your liberal White sensibilities onto a different race of people?
The country is clean and civil… something we now lack in our fractured individualisation. I don’t want them to be infected and their respectable culture undermined, if you want to be constructive I prepose there should be an intensive attitude test with little toleration of foreign misbehaviour.
@ there they are…do you also think salaryman culture needs to stay too? The fertility rate is must be a great sign? These are discussions that need to be had. It is very sad to see people being willingly blind.
@@V01DIORE have you actually visited japan before? their PM getting shotgunned by a pipe gun doesnt exactly correlate to a "clean and civil" country. everyone that says oh but japan is a clean and perfect country! we cant let it be tainted! only watch anime and think anime = real life. i guarantee you dont pay attention to the politics or issues of japan nor have you been there. you idolize them to the point where its a sickness.
@@BlitzShott passport bros
red pillers
you just cant reason with them
"Is it a scam if we consent to the scam?"
Shower thought right there
I lived in Japan from 2000 to 2004 and this happened to me and friends several times for different reasons. One was because we were not Japanese, another because we were US military, and another time was because the bar was filled with Yakuza. It's a mixed bag of not wanting to deal with foreigners because of the language and culture barrier and prejudice. Back then, I wouldn't say over tourism was a thing, but I imagine interaction with unruly tourists or foreigners have gotten worse.
米軍は日本人轢き殺してもレイプしても無罪になってけど？
They have good reason to reject US military. So many servicemen have committed rapes in Okinawa
That's an odd thing to say. Because I often hear of Americans stationed over there as having a good time. So much so in fact that some of them have become arrogant enough to think that they could get any local girl they want. It's given me a very bad image of the US military being over there (and in other countries as well).
Being rejected for being in the US military is pretty legit. That would be some based Japanese people. The other two just sound racist tho.
2:33
Garnt seeing the bar worker's face literally contort into an angry JoJo caricature that shouts "DAGA KOTOWARU" upon hearing that they're not Japanese.
Sad that it happened but its nice to see some push back and calling it out for what it is.
If this happened to someone like Chris then he would be falling over backwards to brush it off as "they're just being careful" or some other bs.
Exactly, as much as I like Chris and his channel his blatant "Oh, it's just their culture" or "They're just being cautious after thing 'x' happened recently" is complete and utter BS. No, Chris that's absolute BS. Call it out for what it is - it's racism, plain and simple, there's no if's, but's or and's about it.
It HAS happened to Chris. Didn’t they get refused during the cycling across Japan in a rural part of Hokkaido or something? I don’t think even he defends that. When you’re integrated into Japan you can tell what can be given the benefit of the doubt and what has no other explanation but just racism.
Chris is something of a "tourism ambassador" and gets work/support from Japanese counties/prefectures etc.. He is not going to burn any bridges when his livelihood is linked to access to locations and people in Japan.
He has upcoming video interviewing Tokyos mayor ffs. Do you think any foreign youtuber could get that?
@@02ditf23 Chris has literally outright called out behaviour like this before.
@@controlcon Sorry but no, Chris's version of calling it out is as I mentioned above: he'll lightly brush over the subject and downplay it into the ground with what I already mentioned:
"Oh, it's just their culture" or "They're just being cautious after thing 'x' happened recently" before quickly moving on.
(Same with Peter Macy as well. He also downplays the issue into the ground. Actually the majority of YT Japan Vblogers for that matter)
As I mentioned, I love Chris's channel but he'll never been seen talking about the bad side of Japan in any *serious* or truly meaningful manner.
Any of his videos that do revolve around the 'negatives' of JP are always silly, insignificant, trivial things that in no way represent how bad their culture can sometimes be towards foreigners. Don't get me wrong JP can be an incredible place; I wouldn't have been living here for 10 years if it wasn't. But it's also a blatantly racist place were foreigners are treated nearly as second class citizens and we need more people with a massive platform like Chris's calling it out for what it is and not making it some scapegoat fallacy of "No, no; it's just their culture." type nonsense.
A barber there angrily refused me literally the moment I stepped into the place, similar experience.
I've lived in Japan for 7 years now and in my experience, I'd say the majority of Japanese people would say this behavior is reprehensible, so I'm really not sure why so many non-Japanese are trying to excuse it.
Only to save face. If they had a choice between a bar full of a foreigners and Japanese, they will choose Japanese every single time. It's just a universal behaviour to prefer people of your own kind. Anyway, with the recent tourists making a massive mess of things like Johnny Salami, if you want something to blame, blame them instead of the businesses not wanting to spend the energy and money to pander to potential nuisances.
I just looked at the tweet and holy crap what are some people thinking
Can you send me the link ??
And they are right. if you don't like it, get out of japan.
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Shallow people think that since Japan is 'aesthetics' they can be forgiven for everything.
Yeah many riders on Twitter. Glad RUclips is still a normal place compared to twitter
Garnt shows up and the bar says "hey! No elda allowed here!"
Metaphor is so good!
No Eldia-Jin allowed here
I love Japan's famously apolitical video games, have you heard of Metal Gear?
@@oscarmendez1477so racism is good if he does it?
@@michaelatlas2341 Hmm? You did not catch the reference on the video game Metaphor ReFantazio?
Everyone (news outlets) always focuses on the trouble foreigners and tourist's cause. Never the good. Or how they have influenced japanese culture today
It's very deliberate and it happens everywhere. Governments will like to pin their failings and ineptitude on things or people that have no representation. It's why dictatorships immediately jump to garnering popularity by blaming another country, and in recent years has also become a key tactic of right wing governments to blame migrants for everything.
It's easier to say that things suck because of an "outside" group rather than accepting accountability.
@@halkun7191 oh everyone focuses on the cancer not the healthy cells
Why not...
How did they influenced Japanese culture today?
they indeed, did not influence the Japanese culture today. extremely other way around.
@@leehui7202all Japanese pop culture?
Damn Chris didn’t allow Garnt in his bar because he’s a tourist, that’s pretty low
I’m 100% with Chris
That's literally racism, there's no other explanation.
Welcome to Japan
Your attitude is pure western imperialism. Get over yourself. The Japanese have not bought into the Western liberal consensus nor do they need to. Its highly entitled to expect them to have the same social views as those from Europe or the USA. You're not a local so stop acting like you're entitled to be treated as though you are.
Yup what are you going to do about it nothing. It's also racist to say a space is an all black space but nobody says anything. Everyone is racist.
@@cameronwilson4886But that doesn't mean you should be so blatant about it 😂
@@HappyZ3bra why not it's their country. Black people (I'm half Black) are openly racist to white people in America all the time. And nobody says anything.
They kicked me out of soaplands, I just wanted to take a bath bro. What the heck Japan
Really? 😂😂 For bath?
@keinen.0824 that's right, they have good cleaning products there
@@Jorhan Bet you got kicked out of massage parlors too 😔😔😔
Soaplands are a bit of a grey area because of the sexual nature of the business. It’s not really the same thing as a bar
One of my favorite fictional representations of racism is actually in a character that a lot of people don't even take seriously, Hody Jones from One Piece. When he gets asked why does he hate humans so much he just answers "because".
You don't need a reason or a backstory to justify your hate to diferent people, you're just a piece of s***. It's sad but it's how it is.
If I remember correctly it was actually misunderstanding about blood transfusion where they kept the secret about the details of what happened resulting in racism
@@rhiel1728 That everyone else's excuse. Hody Jones is a competitive racist.
@@neonaaat6850 I never said he wasn't racist tho? are you high?
japanese have alot of reasons to be racist, they just see california.
@@neonaaat6850this isn’t really true, he was just a sociopath/psychopath who just wanted a reason to kill people/gain power and just leveraged racism as a means to recruit people to his cause
I wonder if this had anything to do with Grant’s friend being Vietnamese. I’ve seen a lot of tik toks of the Japanese police abusing Vietnamese people.
I will be surprised if they are racist enough to know someone is Vietnamese by a glance. If anything, they probably thought they were Chinese which has really bad reputation in Japan right now after a case of failed assault, a murder of Japanese school children in China. Personally, I think this is just general racism.
That's because in recent years, there have been a lot of cases of Vietnamese doing petty crimes, grunt work for Chinese and S.Korean Mafia in Japan. Japanese media only reported S.Koreans and Vietnamese, but left out the Chinese worrying backlash from the CCP. Chinese tourists bring in a lot of money buying luxury goods in Japan and they don't want anything to affect it. Of course, the general public wouldn't know the in-depth details and only react to what they heard from the media.
Crime is wrong, but the media reports aren't truthful, intentionally leaves out important facts for political/social reasons is also wrong. That's why you won't find reports on CCP little pinks who went to Japan to do propaganda and harassments.
Source? I am Vietnamese and our family have been doing business with Japan for over 20 years. We got the information from our Japanese business clients, even they were upset for us.
lol You seem to have no idea what the Vietnamese are doing in Japan. There are more than 10,000 illegal Vietnamese in Japan. And many of the large-scale thefts that are currently rampant in Japan are committed by Vietnamese groups.
They're still pissed Vietnam win their wars no matter how long they last.
I once knew a japanese girl who who was an exchange student at our Uni. This topic came up and she told us that employees sometimes get the order from their boss to not serve foreigners. They can get in real trouble, If it comes out that they did. She also told me that most older people like 40+ see this as preserving their culture. The newer generations know that this is plain old discrimination. That's also because the younger generation travels more and sees that the western world is more open. Funny enough the older ones, like 65, 70+ don't see it this harsh. I don't know were this generational stubbornness and racism comes from.
I was in Japan for a recent Hololive-Solo Concert a week early to see some sights and do some shopping.
and yeah there were indeed places that didn't allow foreigners in some establishments if i went in alone.
in my case it was different i was just walking around with my DSLR on my neck sending the feed to my phone as i took photo's, videos of city landscapes
and a bunch of Japanese people giving me that bombastic side-eye. (I was talking to my friend over the phone) and i heard someone whisper "RUclipsr".
turns out when i went to the concert and talked to some of my friends about it they mentioned "Trauma" from Foreign RUclipsrs and content creators, like Somali.
Would this be a resurgence of the hidden racism that was kept hidden because of these irresponsible content creators? maybe? maybe not? who knows?
nerd youtuber like you ruin japan
Ahhh!!! The Japanese don't want foreigners and foreign cultures in their country! Omg! So racist!
What’s going on here?! It’s honestly frustrating and disappointing. Refusing service to foreigners just because they’re not Japanese is discriminatory, no matter how you look at it-especially when the people involved can speak Japanese and follow the local norms. Why should anyone support this kind of treatment by going to places that clearly don’t welcome foreigners? Japan may be beautiful, but if foreign visitors aren’t accepted, maybe it’s time to rethink our travel choices and expectations.
Why ? There are alot of reason why people refuse serve people under circumstances. I saw alot of bad tourist coming to japan just to be bad person in there Country. Dont forget if you cant speak japanese they dont wanna deal with it. Its not even discriminatory just because you feel like it. You need to look up what some bad foreigner do at times.
Well Japan is for the Japanese first and foremost. Secondly, you can’t blame them especially since so many foreigners have been just misbehaving and being a nuisance in their country. I think it’s making the Japanese see why they had Sakoku for nearly 200 years.
@@Keidoyume They could speak Japanese, were able to order drinks and still were refused service solely because they’re foreigners. So, are you saying it would be okay if someone visited a restaurant in the U.S. or Germany, spoke English or German, ordered without any issues, but was refused service just because they looked Asian? I can’t imagine that happening, and even more, I can’t imagine anyone saying, “That’s fine; the restaurant has the right to refuse whoever they want.” Is that what you’re really suggesting?
@@pavlozwy768 u cant argue with stupid. dude is obviously a weeb, look at the username
@@pavlozwy768people for some reason bendover backwards to defend discrimination when it comes to Japan.
All the crap the West gets about being "systemically racist" and this is the average comparison. If a restaurant or bar did this to someone in any Western city, it would probably be the death of the establishment. Although funny enough, in America, I think this is much less likely in the first place, and that's with the significant difference in population.
Every culture has positives and negatives. I've appreciated aspects of Japanese culture my whole life, but that also means being honest about the issues.
And the reaction to the tweet is about right. This is what happens when society gets super tribal and everything is put through an intersectional lens.
Can you explain how it's racist if it doesn't target a single race but instead encompasses all foreigners?
@@sylvariatzaka Well that's sort of a semantic point. Would you prefer I said it was xenophobic instead? That's basically just being racist to anyone who is different, I wouldn't call that any better.
My point still stands that the West isn't anywhere near as racist as the media would have you believe. And the global contemporary comparison just makes the West look less racist.
I don't think Japanese people are evil or anything I'm just saying if we're going to hold the West to an impossible standard let's either apply that to the rest of world or preferably we just stop hyper focusing on intersectionality in general.
@@KevanWalter It's not semantics at all, they are two completely different words with completely different meanings and completely different reason for feeling each of them.
People use the word 'racism' for EVERYTHING nowadays and 99% of the time it's wrong from an English language standpoint.
@@sylvariatzaka how is this not semantic? Both are discrimination based on differences. Sure, xenophobia might cover a broader spectrum of discrimination but race is definitely a major aspect of what is it means to be xenophobic. If I'm wrong, you tell me what's so different between the two in a practical sense?
And ya claims of discrimination and racism are way over prescribed but that's almost entirely in relation to western culture and politics. I just think the msm or left-wing politics/culture people should either judge all nations under the same standards or ya just stop viewing everything through the intersectional lens of DEI.
@@KevanWalter It's not semantic because xenophobia is acceptable in my eyes and blatant racism isn't. They are two completely different words with different meanings.
The way people bend over backwards to excuse this from Japan and literally no where else will always make me laugh, it’s so fucking stupid yet people will always do the “Thing in Japan 😍” meme
Imagine thinking that the people of the nation you're visiting shouldn't have spaces just for them lol
@@Akimbo411imagine justifying racism. Pathetic.
@@Akimbo411 No they shouldn't
We're all humans, the same fucking species so no it is not justifiable to want to be separated from the people that are the same as us but just from a different region
@@Akimbo411 what other nation does this besides Japan? All of American North and south doesn’t do this, name me a single European country that does this? African? Does Australia do this? No it’s just Asia, Japan the most.
Japan is so crazy xenophobic and we excuse it as a quirk and not as crazy. I personally would never visit Japan I find the whole nation to be terrible but to each their own. But if we would take Japan at its word and just let it isolate itself into oblivion I would be perfectly fine with that.
@@TeppiaxD Bruh are you serious? Places all over the world operate like this. Most places don't even accept foreigners like Russia and if you do go there, they could easily kick you out if your foreign. A simple solution would be simply not letting foreigners in Japan. Japan for the Japanese it's not some playground
There's a yakiniku in Osaka around Temma that denied me entry. I think it had a lot to do with the people who were with me. Mind you, I do speak japanese, and I am vietnamese. So when I let them know "yonin", to which they were initially okay, but they backtracked their invitation once they heard my friends speaking english while I was translating and decided to hit me with the "owarimashita". My beef with Kansai region is spaaaaarking
Thank you for talking about this. First time this has happened to Grant after living in Japan for 5 years. It just goes to show, that at the end of the day, everyone's experiences can be different. Various different situations, little nuances, or whatever it may be. It's easy for a lot of these influencer Japan videos to say "This is how Japan is" as a blanket statement, while reality can be a lot more complicated.
I was just in japan, and for the first time in four trips there over 15 years, i went into a bar, the barkeeper saw me and my 3 friends (all white, so obviously not japanese) and said get out quite loud. Now i have gotten turned away before, and that is just how it is, but its quite another thing to just get told "get out".
what it really is: "racism"
internet nerds: "uHmm aCtUaLlY iTs xEnOPhObIA"
when its actually both
Spoiler Alert for those that need it: Both options make you a c*nt
uhmm actually it's human nature
I Hate the distinction, and futher categorization of the simple concept "Hate you because you are different"
Everyone knows racism. I don't even care if you mean classist imma just call it racism.
Is people being human.
I visited this small restaurant in Shibuya, on the outskirts kind of. It wasn't racist, they were extremely nice but one of the guests just stared at me while i was eating a lunch set, and while I only know a little bit of Japanese, he was saying stuff like: "why is he here" in a rude way. The workers there though were so nice though!
10:14 Lady drinks prices vary from bar to bar. You can expect lady drink prices to be minimum 50% more than normal "customer drinks". The majority of the ladies' salaries will come from lady drink sales, taking a % of each drink on top of their daily salary which will be on the low side. This can explain why the ladies are closely watching you, should you decide to ask one to come drink with you.
I was in Tokyo during that major Rugby match some years ago. There were foreigners all over the place, and to be honest, they were being quite rowdy. The bars in the area I was at started refusing service to them, I think mostly because there were so many of them, locals would have been driven out. There were still some bars that didn't have any customers at all but were refusing service. Luckily, I was with a Japanese native at the time who convinced them to let us in.
Japanse know that foreigners when in large numbers behave like they do in their country...
Japanese people can get rowdy too. Ain't no way the people working in those bars never saw it, it's a freaking bar. Most definitely a case of racism.
People should be centering the discussion around this: "why is Japan the only developed country with no anti-discrimination legislation, and how do we put pressure on their government to implement such laws?"
This is actually a civil rights issue, and it has far-reaching consequences to people living in Japan, from finding apartments to employment. It's not just about not being able to sit down in some seedy bar, because its owner is a racist.
Why are the same people who soyface and point their fingers at China, or any middle eastern country, justifying the most chauvinistic foreign policy towards them because "no pride parades and racism 😱", now saying there's no problem just because it's Japan?
In Conner and Chris's video about love hotel they mentioned that Japan has legalized two men entering and using the services of a love hotel, but many establishments still kicked Conner and Chris out the moment they were seen together (even the janitor has the guts to tell them off). I think Japan is so divided on the topic of inclusivity that simply legalize it will not work. I can even imagine that a portion of the native Japanese population will still not back down when they got penalized by the law. It is very frustrating indeed.
To be open to different perspectives while feeling secure about your own beliefs is not an easy thing to bestow on people. Some will need to improve their emotional intelligence first in order to understand the reasoning behind the legislations. And I agree this applies to everyone regardless of their ethnicity and nationality.
lmao literal colonialist.
@@Stinkyboots82 No, simply enacting anti-discrimination legislation won't solve the issue. You're right. Which is why it's even more important that such laws be implemented, so that the social process of unlearning xenophobia can actually begin: because it has the backing of a law.
As it stands, the people are allowed, and even encouraged to feel safe, and entitled in their bigotry, on an institutional level. This is not okay, and is not about foreigners dictating policy to Japan. Because it affects their own people as well.
The Ryukyuan, Ainu, and Korean people who live, and have grown up in Japan, still face systemic discrimination. The same is true of the 'hafus'. You can be denied entry, or apartment, or employment, just because one of your parents is foreign born, even though you've never known anything else, except life in Japan.
This is an issue, which urgently needs legislation to address it. Anyone who denies this is not arguing in good faith.
Its strange to me that japan for being known as a rule abiding society, that laws related to discrimination aren't followed, like japan will obey so many laws/social norms that seem too strict, yet don't obey laws related to that. I wonder why that is a case, is it that the discrimination is too entrenched in their culture, that it overrides the supposed rule abiding nature?
@kr555wizard The truth is that Japan is less of a rule abiding society, and more of a social pressure society. It's just that the majority of the time, those two go hand in hand here.
In an alternate timeline Garnt said he was Japanese and the. Went on to be a successful Salaryman.
I dont think its a shortage per say, since the population is already decreasing heavily, they dont need to graw as much rice anyway.
This cover for Japan as "Its cool its not racist" is Cope. If anybody else pulled this in Europe or the West they would have their buiesness license removed and charged with a hate crime.
So many riders in this comment section lol. Not surprising this clip blew up and hit the algorithm which attracted a lot of people who are not TT fans and are Japan’s riders just like Sydney’s post did!
Ahhh I see what mistake Garnt made, he wasn't born Japanese! Silly mistake!
Hopefully the internet becomes a gateway for this kinda stuff to slowly fade away. Especially since in recent years the gap has somewhat been closing up.
The internet made it worse.
And tourists like that Somali guy...
I wanna say that nuisance content creators have something to do with it, but I don't know. Either way, that sucks.
I've got a friend who had a similar experience 10 plus years ago. He got denied access to a bar/club for being a tourist.
The boys: *describe textbook xenophobia*
"It's not xenophobia, though."
I faced this as well. I made a reservation on tablelog months in advance and literally the night before my reservation day, the restaurant emailed me saying sorry we cannot serve you because you don’t speak Japanese. What the actual fuck. I emailed them saying why the fuck did they tell me the night before. One of the worst things about Japan
Watch your language! I wouldn't let you in either.
@ don’t be stupid. You seriously cannot be mad at me cussing out the restaurant that treated me like shit and basically told me to gtfo. Please do not be this stupid. I wouldn’t want to go anywhere near you either
racist - the belief that different races possess distinct characteristics, abilities, or qualities, especially so as to distinguish them as inferior or superior to one another.
xenophobia - dislike of or prejudice against people from other countries
They are racist and xenophobic.
nope racism is only about superiorty and inferiority, by this definition you are racist if you acknowledge black people have black skin.
@@mateuszmierzejewski1355 black people indeed, do not have black skin.
Sumimasen... I'm racist... Sorry to hear you experienced it Garnt... it never feels good
This is nothing new. Japan has always been racist but in a polite way. They like you but they don't want you to stay for very long.
Bro got Metaphored ReFantazio'd IRL ☠️
So hype 🔥
he got turned into a shitty game with PS2 tier graphics and watered down persona gameplay, which already is a watered down SMT gameplay?
@@starjun8144 yeah dude that is 1000% exactly precisely accurately definitely what I mean *clap *clap
@@starjun8144smt fanboys seeing any game as mediocre because they didn’t die 1000000 times in tutorial from a game made for the ps1 be like
@@starjun8144forced ass hate lol the game is good bro 😂
If it was uk new outlets would be blaming native English people and apologising to tourists and forginers.
Not just news outlets, Trash Taste would be blaming English people too.
To be fair i wouldnt let him in my store either
I also have friend who worked in Japan as non native born Japanese and he kept getting discriminated as they all ask him about his origin or based on his accent
Asking about your origins is discrimination????
@ it is similar to the example talked about in the video, they will ask you where you are from then openly say obscene things about where you from
@ how about I give you an example, tell me where you are from?
@@ushiromiyabattler9374yes.
@@pencilcheck bruh You believe i'm going to start feeling bad just because this random person saw bad things on the internet about my country and thinks that all my people is bad because of those things????
Chris board has been the singular cause of the Japanese cheese shortage of 2024. Rumour has it he has set his sights on France next
The Lost Bar opened like a month ago and it serves cheese platers. Japan enters a cheese shortage. Coincidence? I think not! :V
So that is why, when I went to a restaurant that it was clearly empty, they told me it was fully booked
I'd have said "For me??"
Yep, I've had that happen too. That usually means they only want to serve Japanese people.
I feel that this is a Tokyo or Kyoto issue. It's not like this is Tochigi as far as I know.
But then again, in rural areas, Foreigners aren't as common, nor are they As problematic.
Still the treatment wasn't right. Indeed it counts as Sabetsu (Discrimination), which is (I wanna say Not) legal, I think.
I was in Japan looking forward to this bbq place. The hostess was going to seat us when a guy came out of the kitchen and said there’s no room, it will be an hour wait. So we waited a few minutes noticing other people coming in and getting seated.
thats prob ppl that reserved?
@@renarenacat We checked for reservations before we went, they don't take reservations. And theres no way the guy that came out of the kitchen would have known if we had a reservation or not.
@@renarenacatNope, that's just what they do over there. Saying that a restaurant is "reserved" usually just means they don't want non-Japanese people around.
It happened to my wife and I a few times.
@@SleepyMatt-zzz I live in japan for 20 years and only seen 1 girls bar and few ramen shop that doesn't allow non-japaneses speaker because of language barrier.
It's definitely not a common thing.
@@renarenacat Geez, what job contract forces you to work there for 20 years?
Try being a Chinese and go to Japan and Korea.. you'll get the worst treatment even though you're not from Mainland China (granted that they don't know where you're from from just look, but why would they want to waste time learning about it 1st).
Second hand experience but a classmate if mine literally experience that!
Her: im chinese
Them: 🤢
Her: from singapore
Them: 😊
the mainland Chinese do similar things to Japanese, if they are like that, it has become a natural response.
@@kuronekomema yeah, china and japan always hated each other. but, why westerners though?
@@alberthcheong5477 Johnny Somali..
@@hteekayWe're not responsible for him. He's responsible for himself.
The amount of What Aboutism I am seeing here is hilarious. The video is about xenophobia and racism in Japan, not from other places.
Japan: wanting tourism to boost its populations and economy...
Also japan: racism
I'll add this. Japanese take preventative measures. That means that even if you are a perfectly-behaved gaijin, they will get rid of you because they don't want to take any chances. And they don't care about hurting your feelings because you are not part of their value system at all. In many cases, the owner or staff kicking you out might actually like foreigners, but they know that they will start losing business as many customers simply do not feel comfortable with foreigners around. Again, you could act ten times more polite than a Japanese person and speak flawless Japanese, but it won't change a thing.
Don't give excuses of racism
This racism
@@dkbros1592i don't think they're excusing it, just providing more context for how it manifests
@@dkbros1592 Not giving excuses. It is racism. Start with Hooked On Phonics and then work your way up from there.
Well that sucks
How does this sound to you?
"I'm a white man, I own a restaurant, I don't want black people around because I heard that black people are in gangs and are obnoxious, so I kick them out because I don't want to take any chances"
Does that sound any different to you? The uncomfortable truth is that this is what some Japanese people do to tourists and non-Japanses who live in the country.
I experience people talking behind my back saying I smell or looking bad the first day landing in Japan btw
That's probably not a racist thing though. No offense
@@itsgonnabeanaurfromme Thats not something you can say without being offensive but I agree with you on it probably not being racially motivated.
I went to Japan for a few weeks. (I have nothing else to say)
@@itsgonnabeanaurfromme i often find some races smell, but do I talk behind their backs?
@@wolfgangvallick5666 I also often see them comment on white people as ugly and fat as well, still think it is not race motivated?
Yeah it happened to me too. But they would say oh were full or something. But you def got the feeling that you were refused because of racism. Still enjoyed my time there
For some reason people don’t understand that Japanese are as human as we foreigners are and have the same flaws that we experience in our own countries.
well most in this comment section dont even understand why japanese act that way. Seems like they dont understand how bad some tourist act in japan. Specialy the result of bad education from people around the world. I would be the same if people see so many bad apples that do bad stuff.
That's one of the reasons I plan to never visit japan.
I like anime, but I dislike their xenophobia a lot more.
Now thats just overreacting.
Don't become part of the problem, and generalise a whole as country off of one bar. There are plenty of amazing people there, but by probability there are obviously badly raised ones.
Just like in every other country and in every culture. Thats just human nature.
Some do it with ill intent, some are just curious. In a place where you dont get as much foreigers, theyre bound to be curious, don't misunderstand it as being rude. Its just a different culture.
In South East Asia , if anyone ever sees a foreigner, they will be curious, they will nag, they will do things considered rude to some cultures. Its not ill intent, theyre just curious, in a way they were raised.
Dont just claim a country has a certain problem without even visiting. Were just not understanding each other.
Yeah that experience would be absolutely degrading. Especially after already entering the bar, ordering and the question being asked after ordering. Definitely understand the anger, cuz imagine if every Asian tourist came to experience America and was turned away for either not being American or not speaking English. They'd definitely have a lot to say about that.
Yeah, that doesnt happen in burgerland. They simply get randomly beaten up there, just for being asian.
@starjun8144 try being black everyday
@@starjun8144millions of Asians from Asian countries visit America every year. There are not millions of asians getting robbed, mugged, or denied service for no reason. America has a plethora of problems. But let’s not exaggerate.
@Waverunner21 and there aren't millions of Americans being denied service in Japan either. But it's fine to exaggerate that, right?
The girls bar probably got you to pay in 40 minute increments because it's not intuitive so you will lose track what you are paying for.
Ive been to japan and personally experienced this. That said, i kinda understand it, at least in Tokyo or the big metropolis.
There are wayyy too many tourists or foreign people, waaaay to many, everywhere. And i just try to put myself in their shoes and hell man, i imagine being japanese, not being completely confident on my english, wanting to chill after a hard day at my job and arriving to a bar filled with tourists who find us japanese so foreign that we're kinda like an amusement park.
It must be so draining, so I'm actually ok for them to have their own space that isnt filled to the brim with tourists, where they can still just be themselves and chill with people with their own problems and grievances.
As for it being "racist" yeah, id say it is (to us).But we are tourists in a foreign country. Who says our way of thinking is the only one. Ive read interviews of japanese people being upset about occidental people trying to impose our beliefs on them for media like movies and games. Which to a hyperbolic degree, id compare to china trying to impose their way of life to us, which of course we'd find ridiculous.
In a city where everywhere you look theres a tourists, i think its more than reasonable to have safe havens for them.
To the racism defenders: Joey calls it racism, you have no leg to stand on.
Equally would you call it ‘culture’ when women get harassed in Japan? No, it isn’t acceptable.
Ah so you are the arbiter of what opinions and social moires japan and Japanese people are allowed to have? How very "entitled westerner" of you. 🤣🤣🤣
"Joey said so"
form your own opinions, dork
@@aikighost it is racism tho, what are you on about? Japan can isolate itself as much as it wants. There are no sugarcoating needed.
Do you not understand the basic ethics of right and wrong? Is morality purely subjective because of "culture". Literally ideas of an illiterate person.
@@johnmiller6696 your thinking is western imperialist in nature "My values are the only allowable ones" is the thought process of a totalitarian. Basically you think you are allowed to proscribe the social values of other peoples and nations because you have decided unilaterally you're correct. Essentially you're a crypto fascist.
@@aikighost Moral realism, read up on it. People outside Japan aren't gonna be enforcing morals in Japan (for the most part, human right treaties exist), but anyone can absolutely determine what is or isn't moral.
If someone did this to a Japanese person in any State… that business would cease to exist.
Not everywhere is or should be America, to think that it should is pure western imperialism.
Where is everyone?
ironically what would solve this would be 1/5 star any rascist busniess so tourist would avoid them, but both tourist and japanese treat their google rating purely for food and the actual eating experience instead of every experience
They don't want gaijin, what are you talking about? yeah bro, japan is racist, big surprise.
just don't go there, i don't want to go there.
japanese would go there more knowing they dont want gaijin, you don't understand that they don't like people that dont look japanese, you think this is some gay bar in california or something.
I mean, even though that sucks to have to go through, the bar is the one losing out on potential business. Sounds like their loss to me 🤷♂️
>enters locals only bar by pretending to be a local
>Gets kicked out
>Surprised Pikachu face.jpg
Racism in Japan. I'm guessing they don't have laws in Japan that punish businesses for doing that.
No need to make anti discriminatory laws for 2% of your population. It's not like their vote matters.
@@jamesmccomb9525 yes it is okay to discriminate against small % of the population.... just say you are cool with bigotry.
@@jamesmccomb9525 are you the type of person to support Japanese interment camps in America during WW2?
I mean after all, they are such a small percent of the population at the time, so they don't matter?
@@DubhghlasMacDubhghlas I'm talking about it from the perspective of a politician. There's no reason why the living standards or protections of minorities in Japan would improve without representation in government or economic pull.
If racism is to actually be mitigated then a "foreigner" would need to make their voice heard in government either by running as a candidate for office or through citizen's appeals. Neither of which are likely to happen.
@@jamesmccomb9525 Japan has various anti discrimination laws.
And just like within the US just because something is illegal doesn't mean people don't do it.
And you know really don't know Japanese citizenship requirement and there is next to none foreign born citizens.
And yes, your whole first comment comes off as yeah let Japanese people discriminate. And your explainer is still yeah let Japanese people discriminate because there will be never enough foreign born citizens to do what you want.
yeah racism just kinda happens everywhere, sucks but it’s never gonna fully go away
Hope it stays like Japan
I think at this point it's because of the Nuisance foreigner streamers whoa re literally ruining it for all foreign tourists in japan. If people behaved respectively and accordingly then they wouldn't have all these restrictions toward us.
While very true I think you would find it very difficult to find someone in America actually get kicked out of a bar just for their skin color. They might not be treated the greatest but to actually refuse service and get kicked out woudnt happen. You have a better chance being kicked out based off being male or female.
@@golagiswatchingyou2966 what😭😭😭
@@golagiswatchingyou2966how about we just hope it just gets less acceptable and rarer ?
Sydney : *Talks about an experience with actual racism *
Twitter users : Now is the time for *Comedy*
Damn I’ve been here 10 years and never experienced. I guess that’s the best part about Okinawa, most facilities would go out of business if they refused foreigners over here
I love when countries that depend on international tourism to live then act high and mighty towards the very foreigners who keep them alive.
How do you think Japan got along all these millennia without the tourism industry?
love when you choose to portray an entire country as being like this when it's clear that not every business does that (garnt said this was the first time in 5 years)
not to mention some foreigners have not exactly given them a good impression of tourists
Japan has been isolated for hundreds of years
@@Ggirtam i dont think you wanna know bud
@@HS-ig4ly The point is that they managed
With the stuff influencers are doing in Japan for tik tok clicks and the whole Johnny somali case that happend. Things are so messy
i love how everyone ignores this. Its not about race. You arent being refused because of your race.
YOu're being refused because you people have a track record of being destructive, rude, obnoxious and disrespectful.
Guess thats not outrage bait worthy enough huh. Or perhaps its easier to cry and blame others than it is to take responsibility.
@@starjun8144what you mean “you people”?