Black Panther: Wakanda Forever - Post Credits ENDING EXPLAINED + What's Next for [SPOILER]
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Black Panther: Wakanda Forever is an emotional journey through the Marvel Cinematic Universe, that ends on one heck of a cliffhanger. In this video, we explain the mid-credits scene, how this leads into Black Panther 3, the Thunerbolts, the Okoye spinoff series, and Avengers: Secret Wars.
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This ending set up a black panther 3 that is going to be wakanda Versus the rest of the world, that may kick off as soon as phase 5 with the thunderbolts. We’re going to tell you how that’s going to happen, explain who is ruling wakanda now, and what the MCUY as planned for T’Challa’s son, T’Challa jr.
But first let's with that amazing credit scene, we have to explain everything about T'Challa’s son, and what this might mean for the future.
At the end of the movie, Shuri travels to Nakia’s home in Haiti, she’s finally able to burn her funeral clothes. A ceremony that allows her to say goodbye to her brother, signaling that she’s ready to move on from her grief and feelings of guilt.
This emotional scene closes the movie, but it then leads to Wakanda Forever’s credit scene. After Shuri performs the ceremony, she’s approached by Nakia-and her’s and T'Challa’s son-who is also named Prince T’Challa.
This reveal is such an emotionally gratifying conclusion for a very powerful human story.
This is both a heartbreaking goodbye to Chadwick Boseman and T'Challa. But at the same time it’s a heartwarming conclusion for Shuri’s arc in Wakanda Forever. For her to meet her nephew after all the things she has been through in the movie feels so gratifying. It’s really the perfect way to end this powerful story.
Just when she thought she had no family left, Nakia appears with T'Challa’s son.
Nakia raised prince T'Challa in Haiti, far away from Wakanda. She kept his existence a secret from everyone, except queen Ramonda.
Judging by the child’s age, he was likely born shortly before or after the snap, around 2018. That means he’s about 5 or 6 years old.
Real quick before we explain why the kid was kept a secret, we got to mention T'Challa’s son in the comics. His name is Azari.
But Azari’s mother isn’t Nakia, it’s Ororo Munroe aka Storm from the X-Men. She and T'Challa had a really complicated relationship in the comics.
Azari doesn’t exist in Earth-616 thigh, that’s the main Marvel universe continuity, like in the MCU.
He comes from an alternate post-apocalyptic world, where he’s part of the Next Avengers, a team of the children of the Avengers. Ultron destroys the world, they fight him-it’s a great read.
Clearly the MCU is going in a different direction.
T'Challa and Nakia agreed that it would be better to raise their son in Haiti, away from the pressure of the throne. At least until he’s ready to assume the responsibilities of king and protector of Wakanda. T'Challa was raised in Wakanda all of his life, the heir to the throne since birth, that shaped his life.
Nakia says that it was T'Challa’s choice for her not to come to his funeral, that it wasn’t time yet to reveal young T'Challa.
This must be because T'Challa wanted his son to get a different chance at life, to forge his own path, and once he assumes the throne, he can be a better king than any who came before him. Because he will grow outside of Wakanda, and be able to understand the world better, and one day be the bridge between their people.
Remember, young T'Challa was born shortly after his father fought Killomonger, and this must have shaped his decision. T'Challa realized that Wakanda can no longer stay closed off to the rest of the world, he saw his father’s mistakes.
Also, Wakanda was in a state of chaos during that time. The nation was just recovering from Killmonger’s mini civil war, and shortly after Thanos happened.
Both T'Challa and Shuri were gone, along with half of life in the universe. Losing both the king and the princess at such a difficult time meant that Wakanda.
If Nakia would have revealed T'Challa’s son to Wakanda after the snap,
it might have given the nation the hope they so desperately needed at the time.
But this would also immediately put him right at the center of everything, with the people of Wakanda seeing him as their future king. 
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@@Johndoe-yh7ff thank you!
This is good this tchalla the son of king tchalla will meet storm and have a kid named azari tchalla the grandson of king tchalla and Nokia wow
NAMOR was the best thing about this movie and rest is so boring, Movie was so boring except all the NAMOR scene , NAMOR is the one thing that made me last till end scene , otherwise I could have have left the theater , i hope younge tchala soon be become black panther, shuri made black panther so boring and ruined storiline , she was pathetic, she should stays as inventer other than fighter
I absolutely loved M'Baku's journey in this movie. To see him still walking with that swagger, but also capable of compassion, restraint, and wisdom, made me really happy.
I agree with all you said however my favorite part is when he said "you bald demon!". I just love his hilarious moments!
He was barely in the movie
@@michiganmonsters01 - I don't think he was presented as a villain in the first film. To me, it felt like he was presented as the opposite to Killmonger, with T'Challa stuck in the middle.
M'Baku made it clear from his first appearance that he is a man who takes tradition very seriously, in contrast with Killmonger who was all "fuck tradition, we need to do whatever is necessary". They represented the two extremes that T'Challa was trying to navigate between.
His development in WF felt, to me, like he was also feeling the loss of T'Challa and, with some difficulty, was moving away from his extreme position to somewhere a bit more moderate, doing his part to fill some of the void T'Challa left behind
@@jamesdominguez7685 honestly making him the king of Wakanda is pretty smart, we can see how much his people in Jabari really respects him, despite being funny at times dude is capable of this job
Ou ou ou ou ou ou ou ou glory to Lord Hanuman and billions of Indians are wooed.... classic capitalist stunt too
Ramonda was trying to tell Shuri that T’Challa has a son but was interrupted by Namor during the camp fire scene
great catch! of course!
gotta go again and see it...didn't realize it. perhaps that's why she was telling Shuri it was time to mourn properly and move forward.
Exactly!!!! I knew it
Great catch. 👌🏾
I didn’t catch that
Black Panther's Son Raised in Haiti, The First Black Republic, is very Symbolic . Ryan Coogler is definitely a Master of his Craft!
And his Haitian name being Toussaint *chefs kiss*
Yup
Ryan is a Genius for thinking of this
Ryan deserves everything good because he cares and is earning it!
Master of craft? but didn’t see the fatherless son symbol.😂. Y’all just be talking.
Naming the prince Tchalla is a brilliant move on behalf of the MCU , continuing A legacy without diminishing the roots.
Yeah you are right. I read somewhere that Kevin Feigi said there won't be a recast of T'Challa in MCU. I guess he meant Chadwick Boseman's T'Challa.
It's lazy of the writers to do it this way, but the writers know as well as all of us that any female lead in a super hero movie isn't gonna make groundbreaking sales
It's a good idea from a legacy standpoint but from a story standpoint it's a bit disappointing. It diminishes Shuri's journey in this movie as the new Black Panther because it's already adressing her replacement. I also feel like naming him T'Challa makes it hard to see him a his own person and not as some kind of reincarnation of his father.
@@user-zm5ew9dd4k this type of thinking has been proven to be wrong time after time. Besides we know they're building up the young avengers.
@@user-zm5ew9dd4k still wont happen for many years so like it or mot theres a lot more females in the mcu then ever so we’re gonna see it
I absolutely loved how the honored the legacy of Chadwick. I also really love how they naturally gave Namor his name and recontextualized its meaning
Yeah the opening scene actually made me teared up I didn't realize how much I missed Chadwick
Chadwick was an amazing actor and his performance in the Black Panther will never be forgotten. Just in shock still from his death at such a young age. I think no one knew he was battling cancer.
The people of the surface world didn't kill Namor's mom. She died of old age, but died heartbroken that her people were driven from the land and the home that they loved. His hatred for surface dwellers stems from seeing that and witnessing the horrible things they did to his peoples' homeland when he returned to bury her.
Didn’t Spanish conquistadors give her and the others smallpox? This tale and many others were the foundational hate for the surface. Was this explained to him and did she reveal who Namor’s father was, we can only hope.
@@JMK15 She didn't get smallpox but her people were displaced because they had to avoid the Spaniards out of fear of disease and war.
She did have small pox and so did a lot of their people, that’s why they took the herbs cause they were dying from disease .
@@johnharris2375 It is never said she herself had it. Namor says her people were driven away by Spaniards that "brought smallpox and hateful language and dogma from another world". She presumably was burying a person who died of it or was killed by Spaniards.
I guess you weren’t paying attention when you watched the movie. She had small pox dots on her hands when they were trying to convince her to take the herb for her baby. Pay attention. She had the pox!!
The kid reminds me of Chadwick. So perfectly casted. What a beautiful film.
Tchalla's son is what Killmonger could have been, growing up aware of his Wakandan heritage and with love from his mum and aunt. It will be interesting if he will possess natural super soldier strength as the heart shaped herb should still be in Tchalla's blood upon his conception
I know it’s two months later but bro!
This was the biggest takeaway I had after watching it. T’Challa’s chose to raise his son in a way that he will be the best of both him Killmonger.
I'd like to see Coogler tackle more MCU projects. He's knocked it out the park twice now
He's a good character writer but the rest of the story is a huge shamble. Don't think he'll be interested in the MCU outside of Black Panther
I agree! Loved what he did with Namor, got to see the colonization of my people, which happened in real life, this movie is gorgeous!
Absolutely not
Facts, he did both films justice!
Rumor is he's heading up Secret Wars
Just left the theater and I loved it! It was a beautiful epic of a film. I cried far too often. The T’Challa stuff hit so much harder with the unfortunate reality of it. Angela Bassett’s performance was insanely good. She had such a presence and completely dominated every scene she was in. Also really liked Namor’s portrayal and looking forward to him popping up in future things. Main question I was left with was Riri’s origin but I guess they’re saving that for her series.
All of that and yes that's what they're doing
I'm hearing something different that it was to much crying and it wasn't a good movie
@@jshannon777 go see it for yourself and make your own opinion. It was a good movie
Yes the first half was decent and the acting done well but as far as a story plot is concerned this was a dumpster fire of a film.
For every one good thing i could say about it there's 10 others that are really bad.
@@LambSauceWill I do agree. Although it felt longer then 2 hours and 41 minutes.
I’d say the reason they don’t have Storm as the child’s mother is that they are working towards that great love story. So this new Tachala will meet a young Storm, maybe while in Haiti.
Exactly ‼️
That’s what I’m thinking too
I hope so!!
Idk then it’ll mean that Storm will be years and years from now until we get the one we love.
@@BeboMofongo03 Years and years? Since she wasn't in this film I don't see a good place for her to appear until after Avengers Secret Wars that come out in 2026. They could introduce her in a Disney+ series, but would you. But regardless the introduction of Storm doesn't have to wait if they magically age T Jr. up. But you are right that to keep the storyline that they grew-up together it would have to be years yet. Maybe they magical age T Jr. to 18 or so and that's when he and Orra meet?
Interestingly, I just watched an interview and it was stated that the original script that had T'Challa alive also had a son being introduced at the end. So Marvel always had plans for a son in the MCU. I just wonder will they keep that characters story to what they envisioned or weave in some points they had planed on for T'Challa.
So Tchalla the 2nd could just be the same as comic book version raised ans schooled outside Wakanda, Imagine actually seeing him and Storm stories in the future when he grows up of course
Yes it would've been diferrent if Chadwick survived it would've been with storm
This is what I said
This movie in my opinion has the best story telling thus far in the MCU. It also is the first movie to portray a strong female role without it feeling like it's forced
And she is black which makes it even more epic!
The movie sucked
@@rickiedeesnutz7318 yet we still don’t gaf about what you think🤷🏾♂️
@@kyaboysavannah1336 hug Deez nuts
Im glad to see my country Haiti in the forfront. And Nakia speaking my language
I liked the movie for what it was. Saying goodbye to a truly great man that brought a beloved character to life. Rip Chadwick
I see this as a three act structure starting with Captain America: New World Order leading to The Thunderbolts and ending with Armor Wars. Daredevil: Born Again will probably play a major role as they could have Yelena, Bucky, or Taskmaster showing up in that with The DoDC. That will end with Spider-Man 4.
I think the Thunderbolts could definitely connect to NWO & Secret Invasion somehow. I wouldn’t mind Punisher appearing given his relationship to Cap & link to the Thunderbolts & Armor Wars in the comics. I’d like to see him interact with USAgent & Baron Zemo. Someone like Valentina or Harrison Ford’s Thunderbolt Ross will probably fill the political Norman Osborn role & take over the government + the DODC.
They target Skrulls & Mutants (like Namor & Ms. Marvel) and possibly launch the Sentinel Program. They could start the Thunderbolt Initiative using villains/anti-heroes in the Raft & make the Cube their HQ. Ross could initiate Siege on New Asgard or Wakanda which leads to Talokan & the Avengers getting involved. The government could outcast the Avengers & they can make the frozen celestial from Eternals their new hideout.
As for DD & Spider-Man, I’d like to see them stay street-level. I’d love to see Matt Murdock and possibly Jessica Jones or Frank Castle cameo in the Spidey trilogy. Eventually Spidey, Kate Bishop, Echo, Punisher, & the Defenders could team up in a crossover. Dark Reign could be the threat to the New Avengers on an international scale.
Meanwhile they could make Kingpin the big bad against the Heroes for Hire on the local street-level scale. Fisk can swindle his way out of Rykers prison after Born Again, become mayor, hire Sable International as his private security, & start a gang war with other top NY villains like Mr. Negative, Hobgoblin, Tombstone, Kilgrave, Bullseye, The Hand, Hammerhead, Tracksuit Mafia etc.
There was so many parallels to the first movie. Such a great film
13:35 Namor's mother was not killed by the surface world, she just died of old age and made Namor promise her to bury her on the land that she called once home. Namor just saw how the invaders treated the locals and went ape shit on them.
Yup
Exactly she died from a broken heart 💔 for not being able to walk on land anymore lol 😂
@@delmarfrazier2727 Old age. We see her get old.
Hopefully Ryan Coogler is a producer on The Thunderbolts if they are going up against Wakanda.
No lol
Producer of all marvel movies is marvel studios
Director and producer is differenf
@@plasticbeetle5377 you obviously know nothing
@@plasticbeetle5377 yes there 5 different producer
Black Panther 2 was amazing! It was a beautiful tribute to Chadwick Boseman. The cinematography, acting, story, landscape, everything was just perfect. It had me crying, laughing, cheering, and crying again. Honestly it was one of the best movies I’ve seen in years. Hats off to Ryan Coogler for honoring his friend’s memory while still following the legacy of the comics and fandom.
So, instead of killing Black Panther in an epic heroic battle, making his death the central unification point for phase 5. You think it's amazing to kill him in a bed from a disease basically the same way Chadwick died in real life. That seems pretty disrespectful to me.
@@onyx00303 are you okay?
@@robindegroot5629 not really. But that has nothing to do with BP2 being terrible... are you ok?
Definitely the best mcu movie since endgame
Your blind right?
This is just so overwhelming for someone who's never read the comics. But makes for several possible great movies to come down the line. This could go on forever.
I read the comics and it was still overwhelming to me
The words in this movie from each character carried/carries intention and weight. "He was my everything."
Watched last night and LOVED, can't wait for your breakdown and easter eggs
Just watched this movie as a mexican with a mayan great grandma it hits so different than other movies, specially the fight scenes, because they are amazing but they are not kicking the ass of random background actors. I can relate to both sides and my heart broke seeing it 🥲💔. Because I love the characters of Wakanda but I didn't want them to win or lose.
Agreed! I didn't want them to fight 🖤🤎🖤🤎
@nsa26 🖤🤎🖤🤎 thank you for replying to my comment.
Have a lovely week
@@SoelPockychan Many blessings to you as well!
I’m hoping Black Panther 3 is Doom War. We can get the FF and Young Avengers in it. The only problem I see with the Thunderbolts going up against Wakanda is Bucky would not be down for that. He’s good friends with Shuri, Okoye, and Ayo.
Zavin luckshin says whatever zemo said in civil war
Nah. Just F4, Ironheart, Spidey in the Deadpool role, Rhodes, and Cap.
F*** the Young Avengers.
@@AuburnFanSince2010 gigachad spotted
@@AuburnFanSince2010 lmao what do you have against the young avengers??? 👀🤔 I swear people who have never read the comics automatically hate the Young Avengers just because they see the term "young" in front of the team name. The team is actually legit and some of the best modern comic storylines in Marvel to date.
@@DarkChyld333 Have you seen American Chavez in Dr Strange vs the Multiverse of Madness? I don’t want to see her or her peers on screen.
So T'Challa son would actually be called Prince T'Challa the Second or T'Challa Jr. future Black Panther and member of young avengers
The young man's name is Toussaint which is French for All Saints... hence raising the Dead. You can reference Haitian Day of the Dead and the fact that the zombie myth comes from Haiti. These writers are brilliant.
Thanks Ryan! 👍The first one to talk about “the challenge”. I really appreciate that. You might be overstretching on a few things but all the theories presented are interesting…I love how you see the big picture. Thanks! 👍
Ryan coogler seems really good at world building
It seemed to me, M'baku became king in Suri's absence.
Yea he was going to challenge anyone who wanted it and i don’t think anyone wanted to get their ass beat by them. Also he moved all the tribes to his domain to save them so im pretty sure they all like him and are okay with him being king till tchalla jr is of age
@@Collect2Disconnect they don't know about Tchalla junior. Neither does mbaku
I think M’baku will be the king and Shuri will be the queen
@@rileyolson6008 it doesnt make sense unless Shuri is married to Mbaku
@@zahiedzamri3141 M'Baku will have a child and raise him in Wakanda to be king. When T"Chala is old enough he will show up and assume the throne. M'Baku and others will be suspicious of another Killmonger and M'Baku's child will hate T'Chala for stealing the throne from him.
You did a great job breaking down the story. I had a few questions, and you managed to answer them. I can't wait to see more of Namor.
Honestly the only reason I’m not as mad that phase 4 wasn’t the best phase is that it’s setting up A LOT. And things are about to get seriously dark again. I’m excited to see the next phase and what’s to come. I loved namor and hope to see much more of him.
This was amazing!! Thank you for this!! Especially how his child comes into play and why they hid his existence and him being a better king. Haiti is a perfect place for him
Great breakdown, and video as always ryan👍🏽
They created another tchalla without having to recast tchalla. This way they can have another black panther and they can say it's his son and not the original but continuity continues with tchalla being the black panther
GREAT as always! I love you and Doug--and the "Friends" clip!
Great movie about grief and moving on with life
Absolutely
Also liked the wakandan cultural reference to that of the Zulu.nation...whenever the king or queen passes away..they are planted (buried) out of view of the nation...in secret as their remains are considered sacred...their final resting palaces remain secret to thr nation and know only by a select few...
Wow, you just made me think of a similarity to Chadwick’s burial. In November of 2020, months after he died, I was in his hometown of Anderson, South Carolina for my then partners family thanksgiving. We decided to go visit his grave. At the top of the cemetery there is a large plot with multiple Boseman’s buried there, yet not one grave mentioned Chadwick’s name. We walked the entirety of the cemetery just to double check and out of curiosity. One of the largest stones in the Boseman plot simply says “Boseman” and at the time it looked relatively new. I also know that Chadwick would study and read books about African cultures and practices. Perhaps, some of this Zulu tradition you mentioned was part of the reason to leave his full name off of the marker.
@@TheCbRockefella wow great experience thanks for sharing...perhaps there is a connection
I saw the movie last night, it was amazing. When the first trailer came out I though that the movie was going to show T'challa's son. When I watched the movie I was like damn I was wrong lol. Loved the mid credit scene. Gave me all the emotions that the opening scene didn't give me.
Where did you watch this movie
@@harmonmalcolm90 here in Chile it premiered yesterday
Loved the Movie . I have already seen it twice . I feel like people are overlooking Leticia Wrights amazing performance as Shuri . She had so many layers. Of course Angela Basset was great . Actually everyone was great.
I just got home from seeing the movie with my brother and his fiance and we enjoyed it from start to finish. What a great and epic movie it was as well as a heartfelt tribute to Chadwick Boseman. Now we're looking forward to seeing where things go with Phase 5 of Marvel.
Haven't seen it yet but I'm here for the breakdown💯
Namor was so badass in this movie!
Sweet!! Another Era of connecting the dots and the movies! Thank you sir!
Very well explained. This is the first time coming across this channel.
Haven't watched Wakanda forever yet but I'm here to ask for a CONSTANTINE breakdown I thought it was great in the day and now that I hear #2 is on the way I'd like to see what I missed and still missing. Thanks love you channel
Wait for real? I thought it was shelved.
I hope Shuri can stay as the Black Panther because her character deserves it. Her whole family has died and it would give Marvel another female WOC a lead superhero role. Not only that but I enjoyed seeing her dawn the suit. It gives closure to Shuri as she can now carry on the title. I understand maybe T'Challa's son can carry the mantle later if or when they decide to age the character up, and I know it is very difficult on how they want to change the character. I think it would be easier to keep Shuri because no one would argue over the idea that they are "recasting" or "replacing" T'Challa with his son or another actor.
Agreed👍 she is smart,she can upgrade her suit,fighting skills.Will be disappointed if they change someone to act Black Panther.
They most likely will keep Shuri as BP for a while. They already established the Namor and BP rivalry/partnership in Wakanda Forever so we will most likely see them again show up together in other MCU films and series. I think Shuri might be the most powerful BP yet (as will the succeeding BPs after her) because she seems to have gotten a power boost (aside from the reg BP powers) from taking the Talocan/Wakanda hybrid version of the heart shaped herb. She looks like she got an even quicker accelerated healing power since she recovered fast from that spear to her gut. She’s probably doubled her strength too since she was able to go 1 to 1 with Namor. I would love to see Shuri as one of the main Avengers moving forward. I think she deserves that spot.
@cher1100 I like the actress's acting, her acting is so natural and comfortable to watch, sad or happy she expresses herself so well. I want to watch a Black Panther that has a feeling and she looks young also.
@@jesslim6577 Yes! Letitia is a great actress. Shuri from before was so effervescent and a bit mischievous but in this movie, she changed and matured a lot and Letitia was able handle that change with such grace and show us a different side of Shuri.
I usually go to a different source for explanations BUT THIS made ALL the sense in the world!!!!
First time watching. First, wow the editing is amazing. Love the thoughtfulness, knowledge, and insight of the host.
5:01 that is unlikely. Wakanda would not abide a boy king. Someone would have ruled as regent until the boy came of age likely Ramonda or M'Baku. Same happened in the comics continuity when T'Chaka was assassinated and T'Challa's uncle S'Yan ruled as regent and Black Panther until T'Challa(and Shuri) was old enough to challenge for the mantle. In that time, young T'Challa son of T'Challa would complete many rites of passage and do walkabouts in and around Wakanda, perhaps even study abroad using a secret identity. These are all things T'Challa did in the comics so the precedent is there.
His grandmother is dead so maybe i spoiled it for you. Only shuri who has given up the mantle to m Baku who is setting up a challenge
@@sleeplesspops3949 this was during the blip so Ramonda would still have been alive. Nakia could also have taken the role as regent as she is Queen Mother. I've seen it twice now. It's an ok movie, loved Namor and Talocan
A boy king boy the original black panther became king when he was still young he doesn’t need to be in his mid 40s to be king
@@StarLightFIlmProductions Neither Mosi nor Bashenga were children at the time they received Panther powers.
Yes, but SHURI IS NEXT IN LINE FOR THE THRONE.
The days of male title inheritance ended in 2013 in the UK (Gender Equity Law or "The Downton Law" was passed), and they NEED to also end in any movie portraying ANY kind of equality. Women can and should inherit equally now, which means the boy should be a prince until QUEEN Shuri dies.
What a great film. I dont know why everyone is so in the middle on this one, I think its exceptional, especially compared to most MCU offerings. To each their own tho.
Same. I really enjoyed this film
I expected to just tolerate it, and see it because I watch everything marvel. But I absolutely loved it.
Finally something from this marvel phase that isn't pure trash
Forget the fact that we are suppose to like it because chadwick's death, black superhero movie, strong female MCU movie. It is mediocre at best. Not even as good as the first one
@@yasdikei8398 God forbid a superhero be anything other than a white male🤦♂️ ..... and im a white male. You gotta understand that other people want to see themselves in the superhero too, you aren't the only audience Marvel caters to
I sure hope the sponsors appreciate the work you put into segues - and everything else.
This was a very solid and well appreciated assessment 👏🏾👏🏾
Just got out the theater. Loved it!
The Joffrey moment @ 5:20 has me rolling 😂😂😂
Hands down the best RUclipsr when it comes to the MCU!
Keep these videos up! Great content haha
I’m sure Harrison Ford will kill it as Ross…but I can’t see him donning the mocap suit and going all Red Hulk…😂 meanwhile I love the parallels of Tchalla’s son and Killmonger. Raising him outside Wakanda but also teaching him the compassion and mercy that Killmonger never learned.
that "totally fiction, that never happens in the world" hits real good
I really liked how u explained everything.
Hi Rayan. I love you videos. I don't skip add and your reviews are amazing. Please do a video where in while you are making a breakdown/reviews a Variant Rayan will show up and contradict you. That wouldl be fun and amazing!!!! All love from the Philippines ❤️✌️
"A man who has not prepared his children for his own death has failed as a father."
T'Chaka to T'Challa when they first met in the Ancestral Plane.
I really want them to introduce the Savage Lands as well as that’s the last place on earth that has vibranium. I would love to see what Ryan Coogler does with that kingdom and characters.
this guy is great! someone needa give the man a hug
Very interesting. I like the way you put it.
Teamwork makes the Dreamwork
I never agreed with the "Recast T'challa" .. but this route they took is brilliant because it doesnt try to Erase Chadwick Bosemans legacy and it doesnt leave Marvel without the Black Panther - or T'challa .. This t'challa can go on to be greater than ever - with Bosemans legacy intact and as the foundation. BOTH parties the "RecastTchalla" and the DONT recast both got their wishes fulfilled and have something to look foreward to in the future
Perfect, I just came home from watching it 😁
Thanks for the breakdown
My favorite part of these videos is watching Ryan going insane, talking to puppets and dogs
Hey let’s keep the king’s kid a secret and when we feel like it we’ll bring him to Wakanda and make him king. Everybody will be totally ok with that.
Worked for Killmonger
Kind of reminds me of killmonger
Yeah, that actually made zero sense to me. It causes too many problems. Why would T'Challa allow his son to grow up outside of Wakanda without bodyguards (besides his mother who isn't always watching him)? Why would Nakia risk her life to save Shuri knowing she has a son and is his only parent? T'Challa and Nakia never married, but they want their son to come back and be king? If M'Baku becomes king, then his sons are now in line to take the throne. Will they just step aside for T'Challa's son? They created a great feel good moment introducing the son, but made a huge illogical mess in the process.
@@marylandgirl9246 They are raising T'Challa's son in secret. Shuri and Nakia are the only people left alive that know of his existence. T'Challa knew he was dying and hid him to protect him from the Wakandan power struggle. Nakia risked her life because the queen told her to. Ramonda knew about baby T'Challa and would have seen to it that he was cared for. She is his grandmother after all. M'Baku's children vs T'Challa upon his return will be interesting. Shuri agreed to let M'Baku be king before learning of T'Challa's son. Hiding the son of the king during a time of uncertainty is not at all unheard of in real life. Seems fairly rational.
Peace..love and reflections fam...Its always good to hear the God BDELL dropping gems...
Time dilation doesn’t work the way you describe it. If Prince T’Challa travels close to the speed of light throughout the universe, he will age slower than those on Earth so he’d just return younger than everyone else, not older. (And based on the GotG, it seems like the hex-jumping doesn’t get close to speed of light as they aren’t aging slower than their earth friends/Kevin Bacon)
Absolutely right, and what I came to the comments to say.
I actually cried too so damn sad god bless Chadwick 😢
Thanks for the vid, WF was I think the 1st MCU film where I just left as soon as credits started to roll
Thanks for the breakdown 👍
I think Captain America will have a big role in the eventual conflict between Wakanda and the US, and how will it be resolved.
This is such a good take!!! 🤯I can totally see that!
Yes this makes a lot of sense
Now I'm beginning to see why Feige said the Thunderbolts movie will end phase 5. Just like aftee the events of Civil War,everything is going to be fucked up again and the world will be on their lowest point then BOOM! Kang finally arrives because he was waiting for this moment that I'm pretty sure he predicted.
Yea its only a matter of time before the UN seriously goes after them
Val or Thunderbolt Ross could take over the government & the DODC as a political figure after Secret Invasion to target Mutants & Skrulls. They could launch Siege on Wakanda instead of New Asgard leading to the New Avengers getting involved & being outcasted + replaced by the Thunderbolts/Dark Avengers. I also would like to see Punisher appear on New World Order given his relationship to Cap in the comics. He also temporarily links with the Thunderbolts & takes part in Armor Wars, so that’s something they could explore.
This is a great way to celebrate Chadwick and also continue the story of Black Panther for the MCU.
Excellent breakdown!
I was wondering how Thanos's snap effected Talokan?
What did you think of the movie?
Cool
Loved it. Absolutely loved it
Omg, that was... less than mediocre!
It wasn't very good iron heart looks absolutely stupid the cgi was bad too many side characters
Other than Spider-Man: No Way Home, this movie was great.
Fantastic commentary! ! !
I got to watch the movie today,I think it's the best movie of the phase four. Thanks for the video
Prince T’Challa greeted his grandmother and brought her to his mother when Ramonda traveled to Haiti to ask Nakia for her help.
I'm going to say that Wakool knows about T'challa's son. There something about how he become Suri's adviser. Then placed as King. It possible he knows he is regent not for suri but for T'challa's son. He mentions he had a talk with T'challa before his passing there could be a possibility that the son was mentioned.
This definitely makes sense. Especially when Wakool fights for black panther challenge in Shuri’s place.
@@Disniqqahere *M’Baku*
And M’Baku didn’t fight on challenge day for the BP title, he stood in place for Shuri as her champion to fight anyone who wished to challenge for the title of King.
Remember, Black Panther and ruler of Wakanda are two different beings. T’Chaka was king and BP are one point but passed the position of Black Panther to T’Challa since he was getting old (and upon T’Chaka’s death T’Challa became king). Now Shuri is BP and de facto queen, but instead chose M’Baku to be regent and handle the political matters and well being of Wakanda when she can’t be there. She has honestly been through too much. She cannot be a scientist, active monarch and BP all at once right away. She has to heal and find her footing.
oh man, you changed your intro music for this video. My sister always anticipates that music when we come home after watching a marvel movie lol
Thanks screencrunch
Shuri left wakanda at the end. M’Baku fought for the throne.
I think M’baku will be the king and Shuri will be the queen
No. Shuri went to Haiti to burn the ceremonial garb and get closure. M'Baku is holding her place for her, because nobody is going to challenge the Great Gorilla. He will automatically become King until Shuri returns when he will graciously give up the spot. Whether someone else challenges her... cannot wait to see.
It was emotional for me.
Woohoo! Love this!
Honestly I'm happy that m Baku takes the throne just for one reason
He's funny 🤣🤣🤣
There's another layer to the beauty of the reveal of T'challa Jr at the end when Shuri was finally ending her mourning period: When she took the essence of the synthesized herb, she's supposed (or expecting) to see her mother and brother. But she saw neither. She saw Killmonger instead. When she's at the edge of life and death (or something almost like that) after being badly wounded by Namor, she finally saw her mother telling her to show who she truly is. Shuri recovered, of course. Now, she hasn't seen her T'challa yet. So, in a sense, her (psychological) healing is not yet finished. When she finally let go, she finally saw her 'brother' in the form of her brother's son, T'challa Jr.
Now, the Wakandan belief system that ancestors don't really leave us is a metaphor. Chadwick Boseman is still present in the lives of those who he has touched. T'challa Jr is the personification of that message. And Shuri was a surrogate for us, the audience. We mourn for losing Boseman, but the film reminds us that Boseman will continue to live in a different plane, in the plane of the lives of those who he touched. In this sense, the film is not only a tribute to him, but it is also an effort to help us move on and remember his legacy. Like Shuri, defining how to continue this legacy will be up to us now.
How good is Shuri!? Loved her in this
Same! My favorite performance of the movie and Angela Bassett as well
@@abby4115 Angela Bassett should receive an award for this
I liked Suri. She's not a good black panther though. Get her out of the suit ASAP.
The acting from her, Angela and Tenoch was freaking top notch! Okoye, Nakia, MBaku, RiRi and Killmonger are phenomenal scene stealers. I love the acting in this movie.
@@emilyhassel7914 I applauded in the theater after her words to Okoye
People’s fear to be treated bad like they treat others and a mix of wanting to control everything even if it takes away from another’s free will for their own desires is the sad
Coming back to this in 10 hours
I honestly expected them to eventually reveal that "Talokan's Vibranium" is Adimantium, so I do wonder when we'll get the Adimantium reveal . . . maybe it will just end up being the US' attempt to create their own Vibranium.
@@Superstarjamar Technically he exists, She-Hulk teased him.
Honestly, Neymar was such a great character. I think it’s most likely we’re going to see him get his own solo film, where his lieutenants from Wakanda forever end up uprising against him, and he needs to fight them in his own movie.
Neymar lol
He was not in this team😂
You gave me hope for the future of MCU
I also said no earlier than phase 6 or phase 7 for when Prince T’Challa takes over to become Black Panther. Shuri can and should continue her run until then. Great call out!
I saw this movie yesterday and I loved it! But I was hoping that at least Namor would say something about the giant head&hand in the ocean…
The celestial was in the Indian Ocean i don’t think they rule the entire ocean. Do you know how big the ocean is?
That we've gone this long without any mention of a world changing event suggests that the Eternals didn't take place in 616. That she hulk makes reference to it suggests it also isn't in 616. Here's hoping both are a separate universe that is destroyed by an incursion
I thought about this while watching and it would’ve been cool to see a quick fight scene on it
@@Mayonaise55 The Celestial emerging from the core of Earth would have caused so many problems for people of Earth. There is no way everything afterwards isn't dealing with the fallout of that event. The Eternals happened in an alternate universe.
I think it got mentioned once in a She Hulk episode. As a Easter egg.