I am Litrally going to buy the g15 5511 today and i see this video. Even i had compared both legion and g15 but g15 cheaper so i went for it and also i needed the battery life.
IF YOU WERE ME which laptop u choose : i am not gamer , i want to do video editing, may be record some video from screen. if u want one with low fan noise. [I think u said legion has louder fan]. I had vostro 10 years ago and it was shut down by itself when it get hot. i dont want to repeat that experience again. does G15 is handling heat well. you also said usb type c doesnot allow usb c charging ??? on DELL [may be in futire devies only connect through this port] my options are cheaper 250$ DELL G15 AMD Ryzen™ 7 5800H 8-core/16-thread Mobile Processor, NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3050 Ti 4GB GDDR6 16GB, 2x8GB, DDR4, 3200MHz 512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive . 6-Cell Battery, 86WHr (Integrated) arrive in 10 days AGANST Legion LEGION 5 GEN 6 AMD (15") STANDARD WITH NVIDIA GPU AMD Ryzen™ 7 5800H Processor (3.20 GHz, up to 4.40 GHz Max Boost, 8 Cores, 16 Threads, 16 MB Cache) 16 GB DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8 GB) Graphic Card NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX™ 3050 Ti 4GB ***4 Cell Li-Polymer 60Wh arrive after 3 months
I looked for the legion 5 for months earlier this year and couldn’t find it anywhere. I started looking for other options in the price range and, as I was mainly interested in a high wattage 3060 laptop, I finally went with the G15 which was on sale at the time. I’m quite happy with the performance of the ryzen 7, 165Hz model.
Was going to get a legion, but good ones were over budget (budget was $1k) Saw this vid, went to dell’s website, and because of their, “Black Friday” sale, got a better spec G15 for $950, which was way less than what Lenovo offered. Thank you so much Jarrod! Wouldn’t have found this sweet steal on an awesome laptop like this without you! You the best, man! Keep it up! ;)
Great performance and Great battery life! What else do you need? The only thing that stopped me from buying Dell was it's screen and need for a separate Linux software to adjust things since I use Linux a lot. But Legion doesn't have as much battery life as Dell so it's a tradeoff I had to make! Dell G15 is a great choice!
@@anthonyrossi5255 i bought the same @1184$ with tax+2 year support and accidental damage and 175 cashback from top cashback but today lenovo legion 5 17" was available for 1050-12% cashback which seemed a better deal
Thanks Jarrod for a quality comparison. Also liked the recap you did at end! Looking forward to more such comparisons! Edit: I agree Legion 5 is a better pick.
It is a no brainer to me. I will pick the Legion 5 over the Dell G15. Dell purposely place the CPU and GPU facing the keyboard so that it is difficult for the end-user to clean the heatsink and redo the thermal paste in future. That is a big turnoff for me. Being said, from thermal imaging 10:12 , the Legion 5 is blowing alot of hot air to the sides where people use their mouse , it is good in the winters, but probably not comfortable in long gaming runs in other times.
Dell made a huge sale the weekend before Labor's day and I got this G15 (but with the Ryzen 5) for $699. I think the Legion is better overall but for this price, I can't imagine a best competitor.
i went to a shop and put the legion 5, the legion 5 pro, and the dell g15 side by side to make my decision. the g15's build quality feels great, and in person it looks better than i expected. i ended up buying the 5 pro, but my second favorite would have been the g15.
good choice i get the G15 i7 16ram Rtx3060 and not liked the updates for the future, PCI 3 Slots for the SDD and no XMP profiles for High performance RAM you are Stuck in latency 22
I recommend the Dell G15. Lenovo has a major quality control issue. I ordered one in Sept of 2021 and the GPU failed after 20 days. I returned-repurchased and the spacebar on the second one didn't work. I again returned-replaced, and the touchpad didn't work on the third Lenovo. During that time, I lucky hedged my bet and purchased a Dell G15 during the Cyber Monday sales and it has been working and running fine. It's all been a massive mess. Lenovo's customer service is horrible and I'm still waiting on my last refund. Due to shortages (I think), they basically told me to go away and that they could no longer help me. 3 defective computers, 50+ hours on the phone and 0 to show for it. For piece of mind and longevity I'd stick with Dell.
I snagged a G15 with the good screen for $1,100 on sale yesterday. Pretty hard to beat that value for money. Tried waiting for a GPU and I just can’t do it anymore. Hopefully I’ll get a 40 series GPU but I’m fine using the G15 until then.
After waiting months for the Legion to become available I looked at other options and found the G15. Got is on sale for about $400 less than the Legion (if I could have got one), and have been happy with it. Mine has the 165Hz screen, and it is very pretty. I agree with your assessment of the included software, the Alienware is next to useless, and has one additional issue that if you let the computer sleep it will break the keyboard lighting until you uninstall and reinstall the Alienware. Wish Dell would get the move on and fix that. Otherwise it has been a great machine.
what about the thermal performance as the new bios are out there and i have read on the internet that these bios updates happened to make the dell thermal much better and it is performing very well. what do you know and think about this?
@@muhammadtalha804 Downloaded the new bios almost right away, the maximum temperature I'm seeing is about 93, so it did drop. I would say the biggest difference to the Legion is that the Legion keeps the fans on at a lower temperature, so at idle it gets cooler. I'm uncertain which is better for the machine, the G15 has smaller temperature swings so less thermal cycling, however the Legion has a lower average temperature.
Does the keyboard lighting still breaks when you let the laptop sleep? Is there any other issues you experience whilst using it? I'm looking to get one off dell outlet 😅
Thanks Jarrod. These are the two best entry level gaming laptops this generation. Too bad the Alienware software does not do much on the G15s. The Vantage software is excellent
For all of you undecisive fellas out there keep this in mind when deciding between these two laptops.. Dell G15's new design has granted the laptop with good thermals at last. Jarrod isn't reviewing the top-end G15 which is the one shipped with an RGB keyboard and a 165hz screen 3ms latency which is a beautiful panel and even better than Legion5's.. response time wise. Also, Dell has taking it up a notch in regards to its update scheduling and with the latest bios and vbios updates the Dell G15 has been granted with an even better cooling and now the RTX 3060's TDP has been increased from 125w to 130w while providing an outstanding 10hr battery life with proper settings (irrespective of it having a 120hz or 165hz panel) **Neither of these updates have been applied to Jarrod's G15 and still, it performed quite well. Last but not least, the amazing pricing $1079.. (lowest price it's been so far) .. for a Ryzen7 5800H, RTX 3060, 86wh battery, RGB keyboard and a 165hz screen is just unbeatable.
Wow Jarrod this was literally what i was talking about in yesterday's comment section. You should even try with 80-95 ( hp victus cause it's cheaper than these )vs either of these.
Thanks for these videos, I went with Dell purely because that's what was available with 5800H+3060, and still at the set budget. Glad they're so close, so I don't feel like missing out on anything. Extra battery size (and performance) on Dell should be great.
I honestly can’t think of a reason to go with the Legion above the Dell besides slightly better software and more ports. Battery more than makes up for this
I guess reason why G15 has got a higher battery life is due to its lower refresh rate screen otherwise the battery life would be lesser than Legion 5 if it was 165 hz screen in my opinion.
This is a very good point, since screen refresh rate does affect battery consumption, and in this case the Legion 5's refresh rate is 30% greater. Given the only small price difference between the two Legion 5 is a no brainer.
was using a Dell for work and as pointed out in the video it's really annoying that there isn't a single app to configure things on the Dell and that you'd have to go into the bios every time. So that's about to change as I just placed an order for the Legion 5 stingray white version that came out in my country fairly recently. Just wanna thank Jarrod here for the extra push as his reviews is what made me decide to get the legion over any other brand in the same price bracket
Wow! This is a very tight match indeed. The Dell G15 has wowed me with it's long battery life, cheaper cost and overall performance however I am very concerned about the high operating temperatures. As for the Lenovo Legion 5, I love the keyboard, especially those four arrow keys, better screen and the extra USB ports as well as the indicator lights on the back has me torn between the two.
@pangiospp when the laptop overheat i just switch to alienware mode then it puts the cpu and max performance, after a little i turn off the alienware mode and my laptop is at the right temperature
i scooped my son a G15 / Ryzen 5/ 3050ti up for about $720 overstock shipped from Dell outlet on presidents day, I have to say its a fantastic little rig!
I was leaning more towards a legion 5, but ended up getting the g15 after finding one for $1250 Canadian open box on best buy. (something like $950 US?) I've been really happy with it, the battery life is much nicer than my old msi ge73 that never went more than 3 hours even when it was new. its also crazy going from a quad core that never goes over 3.4 ghz to an octo core that sits at 3.9-4 in most games (in my testing so far)
@Prabh anything returned for any reason, sometimes they are refurbished, sometimes it's just the customer didn't want it anymore, whatever the reason, they usually work fine and you can get a pretty steep discount. make sure that the seller has good ratings and check their return policy just in case, but its usually pretty safe in my experience and gets some good deals
man i got really lucky and at first i hesitated... i got a g15 3060 woth 165hertz panel ryzen edition for as little as 993$ us...before taxes... it was sold as refurbished because apparently someone didnt liked it and sent it back to dell to get a refund...dell then sent it to someone for refurbishing and so on..i just cant believe how much i got it for..
I had dell in the past, cpu always used to run at 100 degrees thus thermal throttling and bottlenecking the system in games. I opted for legion this time and it cost me 1080$ for 3060+5600H, I am so happy for that purchase
Fun fact, you mentioned their weird port positioning - well, for their lower specked model with Ryzen 5 and RTX 3050 graphics (we had one for testing) the 2 USB 3 ports are in fact USB 2.0 and one of them has the same speed as USB 3.0. I don't know why Dell did this, but it will confuse a lot of users.
Honestly YOU are my favorite youtuber , I wish i have found you sooner , really! Amazing Reviews , amazing information's , and really really professional job you did , I am so grateful!
As always, absolutely great rewiev, with lot of interesting details about both models!! And, as always - Legion 5 is The best !! But white color on Dell looks really expensive and so nice!
Your videos and comparisons are really good 🙂 Thanks! I can't buy the Lenovo in South Africa, unless it's with worse specs. We have no options. Happy 2022 to you!
I just bought the G15 yesterday. Sadly I got the 120 Hz display but I will use a monitor most of the time anyway. It will be a huge upgrade from my decades old laptop. I wish there was a good comparison of the G15 5515 and the G15 5510 with the i7-10870H. Edit: I just checked, the new onboard graphics are better than my old dedicated GPU :D.
@perryschnabel i going to get dell g15 5510 intel 7 10g and rtx 3060 wdy think ? and what version iam gonna take like 90 or 120 btw you can overclock your screen to 144
@@mohammedkhaled9486 I now got the 5515 because the rtx has 120W and in the 5510 90W. But in the end it does not matter that much. The Intel processor in the 5510 is better for single core gaming so maybe there is no best model and both have pros and cons.
The Legion has higher CPU frequencies whilst running cooler.. that's a big win IMO and latencymon still passes and it just performs better overall. Hitting 100 degrees in the G15 at 3400 mhz is NOT a good thing. In my Alienware M17 R3, I can sustain 100% load on all 8 cpu cores of a 10980HK, no undervolt, Cooler master CF-17 cooler though, at 4.3ghz at 88-90 degrees at max fan speed or 95 degrees at the performance fan speed mode which sounds less than half as loud in DB. If I undervolt I can easily get 4.4ghz 100% sustained load. But it idles quite high, around 50 celsius or more, which is why I was so surprised how well it does under load.. the vapour chamber in action I guess. After this laptop's thermals, nothing much else has impressed me anymore.
@@samgoff5289 Unfortunately, some laptops throttle even at max fan speed, or have harsh power limits on GPU and CPU to keep thermals in check. I would prefer loud fan noise to compromised performance any day personally.
@@samgoff5289 You have no idea what you are talking about. Jarrod's tests of maximum frequencies under load are with fans at full speed, so it's all completely relative. On performance mode it's just a pleasant whir anyway, even soft game music out of a portable speaker overtakes it, and I can sustain 4.3ghz at 100% load on 8 cores in that mode. The thermals of my laptop are exceptional, and my cinebench scores equal those of beasts like the GT76 that had a desktop 9900K in it. With complete and utter quietness, I can sustain between 3.5 - 3.8ghz on all cores under load, that's without fans ramping up at *all*, quiet mode. It's the quietest laptop I have ever heard at that sort of speed. I basically play all my games and RPCS3 emulation in complete silence, and I can produce my massive music projects in complete silence. I only use full speed mode for testing purposes like any other bench marker, and I occasionally engage performance mode which as I said is less than half the volume of full speed mode and not unpleasant at all, when I am running an RPCS3 game that is hard to emulate, such as God of War 3 upscaled to 4K. This laptop also keeps the full speed 2080S at perfect temps, and yes, an 150 watt 2080S blows away a mobile 3060..I have set throttling of the 2080S to 77 degrees and it has never ever happened. I paid 4 grand AUD for my laptop, almost 3 grand off, with 10980HK, Win 10 Pro, 32GB ram, 2080S, and a single 2TB SSD. The laptops in this review are actually more expensive when equipped with similar specs. Yeah, I got that 3 grand off in the end of life sale but who cares? The only difference in the R4 was the 3080, and I wasn't going to pay 2 or so grand more for 1080P gaming when a 2080S can play any 1080P game at ultra and will so for the lifetime of this laptop. I can still blow the pants off almost any current laptop and I have had it 8 months already. Now to really drive it home that you are a tool who just felt he'd try be aggressive and insulting me to start an argument and be an ass - Jarrod, in his entire history of videos (of which I have seen every single one), has NEVER reviewed an EIGHT core laptop that can sustain the CPU's factory rated all core turbo speeds without any undervolting, and he has barely ever reviewed one that can sustain its top speed even with every trick in the trade and maximum undervolting. It is really *really* rare, so if you think this laptop has poor thermals, you need a head check, quick. Only desktop replacements like the Asus mothership and GT76 have been able to sustain the sort of frequencies my thin and light 17" does. Jealous, much?
@@lordquaggan That's what I love about Alienware, they allow everything to run at max power and never disable undervolting. No bios tricks needed! That said, I really dislike that it only has 4 USB ports and I don't like the new X17 which is missing secondary key lighting and a number pad, and has ALL ports at the back. I'll be sticking with this M17 R3 till the 3 year warranty I added is expired or till it literally dies, but I do need a second laptop for travelling. A nice 14 or 15" gaming laptop that also has low latencymon results for music production. Since the world should open up for traveling again soon, I'd like to get something within the next 3 months I think. The M17 will stay as my home work and gaming laptop :) This is why I still love watching every review Jarrod does, and would still probably watch them even if I had 2 laptops, just to keep up with tech news and portables. Plus, he does the best laptop reviews, hands down.
is your laptop still in good condition? I want to buy a g15 laptop, but looking at some reviews on the internet it says there are some problems with the g15 laptop, what do you think?
@@avidyoutubeenjoyer708 do you have the ryzen 7 5800h with rtx 3060? If you do, are there any specific settings you have to get the 10 hrs? Like lower refresh rate, etc?
Jarrod, I've been following you recently, I also subscribed to the channel, as always, your analyzes are always done well, I must tell you that I recently purchased the Dell Ryzen edition you mentioned, and I must say that I found it very performing, from all points of view. 👍 I have to tell you that I have upgraded the memory and SSD drive 👍 SSD Samsung Memory MZ-V8P1T0B 980 PRO 1TB, PCIe NVMe M.2 - Memory Kingston FURY Impact 16 (2x8GB) 3200MHz DDR4 CL20 - now he's a monster 🐲🔥
@@khaledfkry5541 the samsung 980 pro costs € 176.77 the kingston fury instead € 92.42, the ssd I installed it in the second slot, I only put the games library in it, the operating system left it on the primary ssd, a seagate to be precise, it makes no sense to have games and operating system on the same ssd when you can have an extra slot to increase the storage capacity, in this way, the system always remains fluid and performing, I wish you a Merry Christmas to you and family.
Im watching this with my newly bought Lenovo Legion 5 with the same specs. I will never buy Dell laptops ever. My last Dell Inspiron 7577 was the worst purchase in my life ever. The fans sounds like full jet engine afterburner and the thermals can warm our living room in the winter. And it cost 600+ USD more than my Legion 5 now. Thanks for the amazing review btw :D
I've just bought the Legion 5 Gen 6 with Ryzen 7 5800H, RTX 3070 8Gb, 2To SSD, 32Gb memory and 165hz screen for as low as 1,800€ (2,030 USD). It will be delivered tomorrow so I'll tell you how awesome it is !
No a single machine is better for that price point. Maybe the all amd system ASUS advantage g15 with Amd 5900hx and 6800m for the same price or less when in sale
Msi or ASUS org every other company..you can’t buy something without watching reviews from trusty reviewers today. Msi high end machines are pretty good though 😁
I love my -budget Alienware m15 R5- Dell G15, even if I DID have to buy the SSD mount for the second m.2 drive slot on Amazon. Didn't even have a mux switch at the time either :D
The dell surprised me, The only other laptop that can compete with the legion is Acer's 2021 Helios 300 since it has a 3060 maxp . Great video nonetheless!
@@ishimarumasaki1998 as a helios owner myself, I can testify that it has loud fans and horrible speakers. Depending on your country it might have a good price/performance ratio though
@@andreabeccarisi1126 Yeah the only reason you'd be getting the helios is if it were the best price/performance out there. But I did that, and i regret it. Imagine just wanting to write a Word file or just watching a youtube video and then hearing the fans ramp up. I unlocked the bios and even used 3rd party software. There is 0 ways to control the fans because scummy acer disabled it.
The Legion always tends to be a lot more expensive in the UK, and even then most of the time its a Ryzen 5 or 8GB model for a higher price than the Dell I dont mind it being a little less good compared to the Legion solely for the big cost change for pretty small differences
The Dell G15 is the best.. best value, best performance and best looking. 😊👍 Plus it last longer on battery while performing better on battery - very important things in a laptop in my opinion.
@@techmad8204 I've owned it for just over 2 weeks now.. best laptop I've ever owned and I've previously had alienware and Asus ROG + TUF. I also disagree with Jarrod's opinon about the keyboard on the Dell as it's the best keyboard I've ever typed on.
@@slavic_slav1320 I got the Dell G15 straight from Dell with a sale on and it was the cheapest 5800H with 3060 max-P laptop in Australia by a few hundred
Your videos are great. Picked up a Dell G15 6800H/3050 ti/16gb Memory/120Hz screen off of Best Buy for $899.99 I pretty much just play World of Warcraft/Final Fantasy XIV so it's enough for me and I'm sure 60+fps will be easy to get in both games without raytracing. Thanks for the video.
Nice buy. I have the 3060 version I strongly suggest disabling turbo if you don’t play aaa or high quality games often. It makes the laptop run like a dream. If you ever need the extra power you can always just switch it back on.
is your laptop still in good condition? I want to buy a g15 laptop, but looking at some reviews on the internet it says there are some problems with the g15 laptop, what do you think?
Hey is your Dell G15 still working/in good condition? Because I previously owned the Dell G15 laptop and it broke literally two days later after buying.
I've been planning to get a Lenovo Legion but still isn't sure and hoping some of the comparison videos would change my mind but it only makes me want Legion more.
Apart from... maybe one thing on the Dell (battery life), every single point went quite easily to the Lenovo... price difference would be the main question.
G15 with intel 11800h, rtx 3060 has a 130w tdp. 165hz screen as well 100% srgb. Silent at idle or normal browsing. Very quiet fans for gaming when on battery.
Prices for the Dell in India is almost same across all the sellers offline or online. Legion 5 is unavailable mostly (Ryzen 2021 version). The price is higher than the Dell but on offer gets lower. I am using a Legion since last 2 years and it is great except back then the camera was at bottom and the RAM frequency is just 2666 MHz. Dell has this habit of pushing temp higher for all line ups. I would like to try the G15 or G5SE but am happy with the Legion.
You have to review the Acer Triton 500 SE, and compare it with the big boys like Legion 7, M16, X17 and S17. I also heard they're making a 16:10 inch mini led screen that will be over 1000 nits brightness.
I already know the legion 5 is better but since my budget was $1600 and legion laptops were around 2k, o bought the g15 rtx 3050 for $1300(on sale) and havent regretted it. You can buy a cooling pad for the heating issue, buy an external monitor to get above 120hz and an external hdd for more space
I bought a legion 5, thanks for helping me Jarrod's. At the beginning I was thinking to get an acer nitro 5, then I saw your videos and changed my mind. ;P
@@chickenleg440 G15 is extra 300 on top of Legion 5 where i live (165Hz Legion vs 120Hz G15). Also dell is uglier, thermal throttles and has a worse screen
Legion 5 is good but definitely going for the Dell G15 with the 165hz option. My reason is simply for that battery life, though I know that they may be a difference with the 165hz option but I figure it's not that much.
Good Lucky with th Air fryer if RUclipsive in a cold place then its a fantástic deal for me it heats up too much... and legion 5 is really overpriced here...:(
16:28 You don't have to restart Legion 5 to turn off iGPU. Because Legion 5 supports Advanced Optimus you may use Hybrid Mode and during launching the game Advanced Optimus should entirely turn off iGPU and enable G-Sync
For me deal breaker for dell g15 was its inverted motherboard. You have to take everything apart to just apply thermal paste. But now i am glade i went with legion as it have many other benefits over dell.
I don't get why everyone is fussing over the heatsink being on the other side of this motherboard. It's not that hard to remove a few extra screws and cables to take out the motherboard. Besides that, you really don't have any real need to replace the existing thermal paste unless you've already had this laptop for at least 5 years.
Great review again !! Cheers Jarrod .. BUT could you or have you explained either in a video or on your website explain this Memory x 16 and x 8 differences ... Cheers
A Légió 5 csuklása, sarka, körülbelül egy évig tart, és eltörik, repedezik, nem ér 5 lábat, a fűtés is szemét, és az ÍDell g15 egy all-in-one tartály, fűtés, anyag stb.
Thanks for this comparison of probably the two best bang-for-the buck 3060-equipped gaming laptops, Jarrod. I actually had a Legion 5 and used it for a few days but returned it because I wanted more than 6GB of video memory, but now that I've gone down the rabbit hole of no Legion 5 Pro availability, and virtually every other 3070-equipped gaming laptop either being permanently sold out (4+ months to ship!), not having a MUX switch, or being about $1,000 Canadian more expensive than either the G15 or the Legion 5. I may just simply cave and buy the Legion 5 again and keep it this time, unless I hear that there will be more laptops in this approximate price range that have MUX switches in the near future. EDIT: I've just ordered a Dell G15 5800h+3060 w/165Hz display panel. ETA is supposed to be a couple of days, as I got it super cheap as a refurbished model. I'll provide my thoughts on how it compares to the Legion 5 here when I get it. Being able to control the fan speed is important to me, as the Legion 5 kept speeding up and slowing down every time the CPU went to 80 degrees or below during gaming, which was rather irritating. The Legion 5 was also blowing a lot of hot air on my right hand, so we'll see how the G15 does with that, too.
OK, I've had the Dell G15 5800h+3060, 165Hz screen version for couple of days now. My observations compared to the Legion 5 5800h+3060, 165Hz are as follows. (Bear in mind both laptops came with the slower x16 memory): The Dell does run hotter than the Legion in general. During gaming with Optimus disabled and no v-sync in Fallout 76, the Dell's CPU will get up over 90 degrees. However, the Dell is quieter, and even when it has its fans fully spun up (using the 'G' key) it's not annoying; the pitch is much easier on the ears than the Legion's. Once the 'G' key is used, the CPU temps drop down into the low to mid 80s. Also, no hot air blowing on your right hand with the Dell, unlike the Legion. While gaming, the Legion's fans go from being acceptable to really quite irritating once the CPU gets over 80 degrees, which is every few seconds while gaming, and there's literally no control for the fans on the Legion. One more thing: I didn't test this on the Legion, but with the Dell, you will NOT be able to close the lid all the way while gaming on an external monitor and keyboard--the air intakes above the keyboard are absolutely essential to keeping the machine cool enough. My Dell actually crashed because of the heat build-up with the screen completely closed while gaming. The keyboard on the Legion does look and feel slightly better when typing, but for gaming, the Legion's keyboard feels mushier than the Dell's. I was also surprised by how cheap the Legion's keyboard actually felt while typing on it compared to previous generations of Lenovo laptop I've used. The Dell feels surprisingly faster than the Legion in my current favourite game, Fallout 76, with Optimus disabled on both. To give a sense of the latency for gaming on the Dell, the frametime, as measured using MSI Afterburner, averages a near constant ~18ms with Optimus enabled in this game, while the frame time drops to an excellent 9-14ms (with some brief spikes higher) with Optimus disabled. The screens on both are virtually identical to my eyes, with excellent colour reproduction. Overall, especially since I got the Dell on special as a refurb for the incredible price of $1249 Canadian, and the Lenovo was $1449 Canadian on sale, but is now at least $1679+ Canadian new, I am probably going to keep the Dell. It feels like a desktop gaming experience with Optimus disabled, and is definitely the way to go for the best bang-for-the buck gaming experience with a 3060 I've found so far.
A Dell cheaper than a Lenovo? I'll believe that when I see it. 😉 But seriously, you should add a section on what service plan is available and the price. On-site service the next day, is a LOT better than "send it back to us and you may get it back in six weeks".
Watching this on my new Legion 5 upgraded ram and intel wifi6 from realtek....... just bought it yesterday after watching your videos..... almost got the dell for 200 less..... but your 3 videos on the L5 was the leading factor........ I had many choices & enough to get a legion 7 or Alienware but I dont game everyday.... my HP spectre is my everyday...... PS I dislike the touchpad and screen......like alot
PS I got it for 950 ..... open box best buy ex display unit...... probably redo battery soon for that reason aswell..... but I got a great deal... 309$ off msrp
Your heat test is wrong. Legion 5 heating is more centered under the keyboard where the smaller components are located. That's a significant issue for laptops as over time the keys can lose their responsiveness. The heating dispersion is better on the G15. That's a pretty big deal on any laptops.
hi Jarrod, i've watched your comparisons and this is quality stuff. In my country for 1480USD you can get either G15 R7 5800h, Legion 5 with r5 5600H or Zephyrus G14 5800HS all of them with RTX3060 (120,130 and 80TGP). Aiming for longetivity (I expect it should last for at least 5 years) and of course performance to play occasionaly after work warzone and some RTS games or half life alyx, which one should be the best pick? are all of them VR ready?
Those prices are really high, I bought a Legion 5 with r7 5800h rtx 3050ti, 16gb ram 512 gb SSD for only 999 just 2 months ago, I know the 3060 is way faster but not $700 faster
Jarrod do you intend to do a full review of either the Dell G16 2022 or 2023 models? Would love to see your thoughts on how dell have modified and improved the product since the earlier G15 days and if G16 is something worth investing in as a gamer
@@JarrodsTech Thanks Jarrod, hoping you can get a hold of either models (or both) soon as there aren't really many full reviews out there of the G16 2022 or 2023 on RUclips so hoping you can beat the other main stream tech content creators to the punch. Fingers crossed
-Dell G15 5515 Ryzen edition with 165hz Ryzen 7 5800h/ Ram 16GB / SSD 1TB 1100$. -Lenovo legion 5 pro with 2k 165hz Ryzen 7 5800h / Ram 16GB / SSD 512GB 1279$. This 2 has the same GPU rtx 3060 Which one should I choose?
More comparisons with both of these laptops coming soon, make sure you're subscribed 😎
i'd rather eat glass than deal with Dell.
I am Litrally going to buy the g15 5511 today and i see this video. Even i had compared both legion and g15 but g15 cheaper so i went for it and also i needed the battery life.
Yo review the rog zephyrus duo 15 se
Waiting for the 165hz vs 165hz
IF YOU WERE ME which laptop u choose : i am not gamer , i want to do video editing, may be record some video from screen. if u want one with low fan noise. [I think u said legion has louder fan]. I had vostro 10 years ago and it was shut down by itself when it get hot. i dont want to repeat that experience again. does G15 is handling heat well.
you also said usb type c doesnot allow usb c charging ??? on DELL [may be in futire devies only connect through this port]
my options are
cheaper 250$
DELL G15
AMD Ryzen™ 7 5800H 8-core/16-thread Mobile Processor,
NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 3050 Ti 4GB GDDR6
16GB, 2x8GB, DDR4, 3200MHz
512GB M.2 PCIe NVMe Solid State Drive
. 6-Cell Battery, 86WHr (Integrated) arrive in 10 days
AGANST Legion
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I looked for the legion 5 for months earlier this year and couldn’t find it anywhere. I started looking for other options in the price range and, as I was mainly interested in a high wattage 3060 laptop, I finally went with the G15 which was on sale at the time. I’m quite happy with the performance of the ryzen 7, 165Hz model.
Yea jerot (jarrods) can you answer that?
As well in my country all Legion 5 pro out of stock yet
It is good ffor editing 4k videos?
How much and from where did you bought it?
@@wegener5540 the monitor id 2k. Di far so nice so good. About 2500 usd
Was going to get a legion, but good ones were over budget (budget was $1k)
Saw this vid, went to dell’s website, and because of their, “Black Friday” sale, got a better spec G15 for $950, which was way less than what Lenovo offered.
Thank you so much Jarrod! Wouldn’t have found this sweet steal on an awesome laptop like this without you!
You the best, man! Keep it up! ;)
Great performance and Great battery life! What else do you need? The only thing that stopped me from buying Dell was it's screen and need for a separate Linux software to adjust things since I use Linux a lot. But Legion doesn't have as much battery life as Dell so it's a tradeoff I had to make! Dell G15 is a great choice!
Just did the same thing. I got a g15 with a i7 11800h 16gb 1tb and 3060 for $865!
@@whitewalker608 The screen on the 3060 is 165hz and 300nit and full sRGB. This guy is not reviewing that screen unfortunately.
@@anthonyrossi5255 Where I live, the screen is 120Hz one. The products in Jarrod's region and my region susally are the same.
@@anthonyrossi5255 i bought the same @1184$ with tax+2 year support and accidental damage and 175 cashback from top cashback
but today lenovo legion 5 17" was available for 1050-12% cashback which seemed a better deal
Thanks Jarrod for a quality comparison.
Also liked the recap you did at end!
Looking forward to more such comparisons!
Edit: I agree Legion 5 is a better pick.
It is a no brainer to me. I will pick the Legion 5 over the Dell G15. Dell purposely place the CPU and GPU facing the keyboard so that it is difficult for the end-user to clean the heatsink and redo the thermal paste in future. That is a big turnoff for me. Being said, from thermal imaging 10:12 , the Legion 5 is blowing alot of hot air to the sides where people use their mouse , it is good in the winters, but probably not comfortable in long gaming runs in other times.
What about the Intel versions
@@kylenorris9585 Same story
yep, I hate companies which make it nearly impossible to do some self maintenance without breaking something
Kinda despicable. Might I ask whether they do this to their newet m15 alienware laptops as in the UK, it's the best value for me.
I'm coming from a razer blade 15 2020 (rtx 2070), and that was quite easy to maintain
Dell made a huge sale the weekend before Labor's day and I got this G15 (but with the Ryzen 5) for $699. I think the Legion is better overall but for this price, I can't imagine a best competitor.
How did you get it at $699? Did you use student discount or something?
@@Michael45007 the one on sale for that price was probably the 3050 model. i picked up the same one
I got the 3060 with the intel i7-11800H for $1569.99 CDN during that sale. Normally would cost $2200
@@Jeppy121s besides wanting the Legion, i got that same Dell model for $ 1,380
@@Jeppy121s I'm in Canada too, did you get the 165hz screen?
feels good when a tech guy talks about exactly the points and details you thinking of
I picked the legion 5. Overall seemed to have a better user experience and looks better in my opinion
i went to a shop and put the legion 5, the legion 5 pro, and the dell g15 side by side to make my decision. the g15's build quality feels great, and in person it looks better than i expected. i ended up buying the 5 pro, but my second favorite would have been the g15.
good choice i get the G15 i7 16ram Rtx3060 and not liked the updates for the future, PCI 3 Slots for the SDD and no XMP profiles for High performance RAM you are Stuck in latency 22
I recommend the Dell G15. Lenovo has a major quality control issue. I ordered one in Sept of 2021 and the GPU failed after 20 days. I returned-repurchased and the spacebar on the second one didn't work. I again returned-replaced, and the touchpad didn't work on the third Lenovo. During that time, I lucky hedged my bet and purchased a Dell G15 during the Cyber Monday sales and it has been working and running fine. It's all been a massive mess. Lenovo's customer service is horrible and I'm still waiting on my last refund. Due to shortages (I think), they basically told me to go away and that they could no longer help me. 3 defective computers, 50+ hours on the phone and 0 to show for it. For piece of mind and longevity I'd stick with Dell.
I snagged a G15 with the good screen for $1,100 on sale yesterday. Pretty hard to beat that value for money. Tried waiting for a GPU and I just can’t do it anymore. Hopefully I’ll get a 40 series GPU but I’m fine using the G15 until then.
After waiting months for the Legion to become available I looked at other options and found the G15. Got is on sale for about $400 less than the Legion (if I could have got one), and have been happy with it. Mine has the 165Hz screen, and it is very pretty. I agree with your assessment of the included software, the Alienware is next to useless, and has one additional issue that if you let the computer sleep it will break the keyboard lighting until you uninstall and reinstall the Alienware. Wish Dell would get the move on and fix that. Otherwise it has been a great machine.
what about the thermal performance as the new bios are out there and i have read on the internet that these bios updates happened to make the dell thermal much better and it is performing very well. what do you know and think about this?
@@muhammadtalha804 Downloaded the new bios almost right away, the maximum temperature I'm seeing is about 93, so it did drop. I would say the biggest difference to the Legion is that the Legion keeps the fans on at a lower temperature, so at idle it gets cooler. I'm uncertain which is better for the machine, the G15 has smaller temperature swings so less thermal cycling, however the Legion has a lower average temperature.
hey what do you think of the response time of 165 hz screen? and colors?
Does the keyboard lighting still breaks when you let the laptop sleep?
Is there any other issues you experience whilst using it? I'm looking to get one off dell outlet 😅
@@chimmy2822 Software updates seem to have corrected it, although they did break it a couple of times, but it has become stable.
You are the best, man. I was literally thinking about this comparison.
Thanks Jarrod. These are the two best entry level gaming laptops this generation. Too bad the Alienware software does not do much on the G15s. The Vantage software is excellent
These are mid range, not entry level with a 100w+ 3060..lol.
Entry level laptops start with 1650s with a tgp of roughly 40+w lmao
@@chilledbit Ya ur not wrong
For all of you undecisive fellas out there keep this in mind when deciding between these two laptops..
Dell G15's new design has granted the laptop with good thermals at last. Jarrod isn't reviewing the top-end G15 which is the one shipped with an RGB keyboard and a 165hz screen 3ms latency which is a beautiful panel and even better than Legion5's.. response time wise.
Also, Dell has taking it up a notch in regards to its update scheduling and with the latest bios and vbios updates the Dell G15 has been granted with an even better cooling and now the RTX 3060's TDP has been increased from 125w to 130w while providing an outstanding 10hr battery life with proper settings (irrespective of it having a 120hz or 165hz panel)
**Neither of these updates have been applied to Jarrod's G15 and still, it performed quite well.
Last but not least, the amazing pricing $1079.. (lowest price it's been so far)
.. for a Ryzen7 5800H,
RTX 3060, 86wh battery, RGB keyboard and a 165hz screen is just unbeatable.
100% agreed.
G15 5511 with 11800h, rtx 3060 130w, 165hz 100% rgb screen, amazing sale price. Hard to beat.
Quite idling as well.
from where it has price of $1079
can you send the link ?
can i contact with you any where else i have to buy this i have some questions
@@muhammadtalha804 yes sure man
I need to contact with you SG as i am planning to buy i have some questions
Wow Jarrod this was literally what i was talking about in yesterday's comment section. You should even try with 80-95 ( hp victus cause it's cheaper than these )vs either of these.
Hp victus limited to 3050/ti
@@NamelessPassenger top config has a 3060
@@NamelessPassenger no bro there's also a 3060 version but TDP is 95 w
@@gamerlifeon8794 80W + 15W boost. Most of the time it will be 80W.
@@kshitijchauhan9764 writing mistake thanks
Bought the Legion 5 with Ryzen 5 5600H and RTX 3060. Super happy with it! Thank you for your great reviews guiding me to the right product ;)
Hi i want to buy Legion 5 5800H, 3060 do you recommend???? For the games
@@lucefan91 me too haha
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Thanks for these videos, I went with Dell purely because that's what was available with 5800H+3060, and still at the set budget. Glad they're so close, so I don't feel like missing out on anything. Extra battery size (and performance) on Dell should be great.
I honestly can’t think of a reason to go with the Legion above the Dell besides slightly better software and more ports. Battery more than makes up for this
I guess reason why G15 has got a higher battery life is due to its lower refresh rate screen otherwise the battery life would be lesser than Legion 5 if it was 165 hz screen in my opinion.
Maybe, hard to say how much the gap closes without having it to try :(
You could lower the refresh rate to be the same and test it then
This is a very good point, since screen refresh rate does affect battery consumption, and in this case the Legion 5's refresh rate is 30% greater.
Given the only small price difference between the two Legion 5 is a no brainer.
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was using a Dell for work and as pointed out in the video it's really annoying that there isn't a single app to configure things on the Dell and that you'd have to go into the bios every time.
So that's about to change as I just placed an order for the Legion 5 stingray white version that came out in my country fairly recently. Just wanna thank Jarrod here for the extra push as his reviews is what made me decide to get the legion over any other brand in the same price bracket
Wow! This is a very tight match indeed. The Dell G15 has wowed me with it's long battery life, cheaper cost and overall performance however I am very concerned about the high operating temperatures. As for the Lenovo Legion 5, I love the keyboard, especially those four arrow keys, better screen and the extra USB ports as well as the indicator lights on the back has me torn between the two.
new BIOS update for the G15 fixed the temperature issues
@pangiospp when the laptop overheat i just switch to alienware mode then it puts the cpu and max performance, after a little i turn off the alienware mode and my laptop is at the right temperature
I think Dell's good battery life made it a great competition.
@@whitewalker608 Yes, that is true but the thermals is a turn off. Excessive heat is the killer of electronics.
@@CCobraProductions Are you on a budget, I think asus zephyrus g15 is almost perfect and better than legion 5 pro
i scooped my son a G15 / Ryzen 5/ 3050ti up for about $720 overstock shipped from Dell outlet on presidents day, I have to say its a fantastic little rig!
Well done for the guys who bought the g15 in July when it was $1079 or $1099
I bought it in Labor's day for $699 (but the Ryzen 5 version).
@@victorleffa6733 WTF
@@TykoBrian7 probably the 3050 RTX as well?
Ha. Thats when I bought mine!!! Great freaking deal!!!
I bought it during july sale and also got 100$ more discount. cant complain with the top spec at 979$
I have the Legion 5 and I can say the fans are really loud when you push the laptop to it's limits.
Is it good to buy
I was leaning more towards a legion 5, but ended up getting the g15 after finding one for $1250 Canadian open box on best buy. (something like $950 US?) I've been really happy with it, the battery life is much nicer than my old msi ge73 that never went more than 3 hours even when it was new. its also crazy going from a quad core that never goes over 3.4 ghz to an octo core that sits at 3.9-4 in most games (in my testing so far)
@Prabh I've never had a problem with it
@Prabh anything returned for any reason, sometimes they are refurbished, sometimes it's just the customer didn't want it anymore, whatever the reason, they usually work fine and you can get a pretty steep discount. make sure that the seller has good ratings and check their return policy just in case, but its usually pretty safe in my experience and gets some good deals
Got my G15 for $750.
man i got really lucky and at first i hesitated...
i got a g15 3060 woth 165hertz panel ryzen edition for as little as 993$ us...before taxes...
it was sold as refurbished because apparently someone didnt liked it and sent it back to dell to get a refund...dell then sent it to someone for refurbishing and so on..i just cant believe how much i got it for..
It's a great laptop, especially with the 165hz screen. You got it for a steal
Party
I had dell in the past, cpu always used to run at 100 degrees thus thermal throttling and bottlenecking the system in games. I opted for legion this time and it cost me 1080$ for 3060+5600H, I am so happy for that purchase
hi may i know where did u bought it?
Only the channel who show each and everything in detailed and full view wow u deserve more subscribers
Fun fact, you mentioned their weird port positioning - well, for their lower specked model with Ryzen 5 and RTX 3050 graphics (we had one for testing) the 2 USB 3 ports are in fact USB 2.0 and one of them has the same speed as USB 3.0. I don't know why Dell did this, but it will confuse a lot of users.
I just received a new build G15 and the usb ports are all 3.2 now.
Honestly YOU are my favorite youtuber , I wish i have found you sooner , really! Amazing Reviews , amazing information's , and really really professional job you did , I am so grateful!
As always, absolutely great rewiev, with lot of interesting details about both models!! And, as always - Legion 5 is The best !! But white color on Dell looks really expensive and so nice!
I thought I was the only one that’s got that thought 💀
I just got my dell g15 for $1200 and I think it was worth my money added by your review I can say that I’m contented with my purchase
I'm so indecisive!!! But your videos are a great help.
Literally just purchased a Legion 5 :D
I got the 165Hz model of the G15 during the July 4th sale for around $1100 after taxes, amazingly worth it!
Thanks, Jarrod for the comprehensive comparison, could you please mention the durability and hassle-free long term usage perspective of Lenovo or Dell
dell
Your videos and comparisons are really good 🙂 Thanks! I can't buy the Lenovo in South Africa, unless it's with worse specs. We have no options. Happy 2022 to you!
I just bought the G15 yesterday. Sadly I got the 120 Hz display but I will use a monitor most of the time anyway. It will be a huge upgrade from my decades old laptop. I wish there was a good comparison of the G15 5515 and the G15 5510 with the i7-10870H.
Edit: I just checked, the new onboard graphics are better than my old dedicated GPU :D.
@perryschnabel
i going to get dell g15 5510 intel 7 10g and rtx 3060 wdy think ? and what version iam gonna take like 90 or 120
btw you can overclock your screen to 144
@@mohammedkhaled9486 I now got the 5515 because the rtx has 120W and in the 5510 90W. But in the end it does not matter that much. The Intel processor in the 5510 is better for single core gaming so maybe there is no best model and both have pros and cons.
Is he's still good what about c°?
@@1112ز still very happy and not too hot.
The Legion has higher CPU frequencies whilst running cooler.. that's a big win IMO and latencymon still passes and it just performs better overall. Hitting 100 degrees in the G15 at 3400 mhz is NOT a good thing. In my Alienware M17 R3, I can sustain 100% load on all 8 cpu cores of a 10980HK, no undervolt, Cooler master CF-17 cooler though, at 4.3ghz at 88-90 degrees at max fan speed or 95 degrees at the performance fan speed mode which sounds less than half as loud in DB. If I undervolt I can easily get 4.4ghz 100% sustained load. But it idles quite high, around 50 celsius or more, which is why I was so surprised how well it does under load.. the vapour chamber in action I guess. After this laptop's thermals, nothing much else has impressed me anymore.
Who cares if you have to run fan speeds at hurricane levels? Anything can be ok at 100% fan speed but that isn't impressive
@@samgoff5289 Unfortunately, some laptops throttle even at max fan speed, or have harsh power limits on GPU and CPU to keep thermals in check. I would prefer loud fan noise to compromised performance any day personally.
@@samgoff5289 You have no idea what you are talking about. Jarrod's tests of maximum frequencies under load are with fans at full speed, so it's all completely relative. On performance mode it's just a pleasant whir anyway, even soft game music out of a portable speaker overtakes it, and I can sustain 4.3ghz at 100% load on 8 cores in that mode. The thermals of my laptop are exceptional, and my cinebench scores equal those of beasts like the GT76 that had a desktop 9900K in it. With complete and utter quietness, I can sustain between 3.5 - 3.8ghz on all cores under load, that's without fans ramping up at *all*, quiet mode. It's the quietest laptop I have ever heard at that sort of speed. I basically play all my games and RPCS3 emulation in complete silence, and I can produce my massive music projects in complete silence.
I only use full speed mode for testing purposes like any other bench marker, and I occasionally engage performance mode which as I said is less than half the volume of full speed mode and not unpleasant at all, when I am running an RPCS3 game that is hard to emulate, such as God of War 3 upscaled to 4K. This laptop also keeps the full speed 2080S at perfect temps, and yes, an 150 watt 2080S blows away a mobile 3060..I have set throttling of the 2080S to 77 degrees and it has never ever happened.
I paid 4 grand AUD for my laptop, almost 3 grand off, with 10980HK, Win 10 Pro, 32GB ram, 2080S, and a single 2TB SSD. The laptops in this review are actually more expensive when equipped with similar specs. Yeah, I got that 3 grand off in the end of life sale but who cares? The only difference in the R4 was the 3080, and I wasn't going to pay 2 or so grand more for 1080P gaming when a 2080S can play any 1080P game at ultra and will so for the lifetime of this laptop. I can still blow the pants off almost any current laptop and I have had it 8 months already.
Now to really drive it home that you are a tool who just felt he'd try be aggressive and insulting me to start an argument and be an ass - Jarrod, in his entire history of videos (of which I have seen every single one), has NEVER reviewed an EIGHT core laptop that can sustain the CPU's factory rated all core turbo speeds without any undervolting, and he has barely ever reviewed one that can sustain its top speed even with every trick in the trade and maximum undervolting. It is really *really* rare, so if you think this laptop has poor thermals, you need a head check, quick. Only desktop replacements like the Asus mothership and GT76 have been able to sustain the sort of frequencies my thin and light 17" does.
Jealous, much?
@@lordquaggan That's what I love about Alienware, they allow everything to run at max power and never disable undervolting. No bios tricks needed!
That said, I really dislike that it only has 4 USB ports and I don't like the new X17 which is missing secondary key lighting and a number pad, and has ALL ports at the back. I'll be sticking with this M17 R3 till the 3 year warranty I added is expired or till it literally dies, but I do need a second laptop for travelling. A nice 14 or 15" gaming laptop that also has low latencymon results for music production. Since the world should open up for traveling again soon, I'd like to get something within the next 3 months I think. The M17 will stay as my home work and gaming laptop :) This is why I still love watching every review Jarrod does, and would still probably watch them even if I had 2 laptops, just to keep up with tech news and portables. Plus, he does the best laptop reviews, hands down.
Legion 5 the GOAT
I still prefer msi by far but anyway
@@omerde5545 anyway what?
@@omerde5545 which one u got
@@officerwizz ive got an msi for 6 years now and it still works perfzctly even though it smell like roasted metal and lose some perf
@@RandomizerElite actually i have a msi ge62 apache pro but im looking for a gp76 that gonna boost my whole life like a rocket
I ended up getting the G15 Ryzen Edition on sale for $700, I'm pretty happy with my purchase
Where you get it ?
@@retrogamer847 Dell Outlet Store
@@MrMrGuy how CPU and GPU ?
is your laptop still in good condition? I want to buy a g15 laptop, but looking at some reviews on the internet it says there are some problems with the g15 laptop, what do you think?
When Dell is on sale(in the us), it's a pretty good bang for your buck. I got the Ryzen 5800 + 3600 + 165 refresh for ~$1100 which is just wild.
Thank you, Jarrod, enjoyed the review, great as always
I would lean towards Legion 5 :D
Can't wait for Victus review & comparison with Omen
Just what I was thinking :)
the 165 hz screen dell gets terrible battery life (~3 hours). It's a problem a lot of people/reviewers, myself included, have come across.
Get the ryzen editon though. I have the intel one and it doesn't have a MUX switch while the ryzen has
My g15 gets good battery life with 165hz. Easy 10 hours on browsing and youtube
I would be very surprised if the difference is that much on the Ryzen model. Intel? Yeah probably.
if you turn on optimus and put the screen to 60hz while on life saver mode you can get up to 9 hours easily
@@avidyoutubeenjoyer708 do you have the ryzen 7 5800h with rtx 3060? If you do, are there any specific settings you have to get the 10 hrs? Like lower refresh rate, etc?
Jarrod, I've been following you recently, I also subscribed to the channel, as always, your analyzes are always done well, I must tell you that I recently purchased the Dell Ryzen edition you mentioned, and I must say that I found it very performing, from all points of view. 👍 I have to tell you that I have upgraded the memory and SSD drive 👍 SSD Samsung Memory MZ-V8P1T0B 980 PRO 1TB, PCIe NVMe M.2 - Memory Kingston FURY Impact 16 (2x8GB) 3200MHz DDR4 CL20 - now he's a monster 🐲🔥
did u open the laptop urself to upgrade it was it easy. how much is the ssd and the ram did u kept the SSD it comes with it
@@khaledfkry5541 the samsung 980 pro costs € 176.77 the kingston fury instead € 92.42, the ssd I installed it in the second slot, I only put the games library in it, the operating system left it on the primary ssd, a seagate to be precise, it makes no sense to have games and operating system on the same ssd when you can have an extra slot to increase the storage capacity, in this way, the system always remains fluid and performing, I wish you a Merry Christmas to you and family.
Very honest and thorough review! So helpful
Im watching this with my newly bought Lenovo Legion 5 with the same specs. I will never buy Dell laptops ever. My last Dell Inspiron 7577 was the worst purchase in my life ever. The fans sounds like full jet engine afterburner and the thermals can warm our living room in the winter. And it cost 600+ USD more than my Legion 5 now.
Thanks for the amazing review btw :D
I've just bought the Legion 5 Gen 6 with Ryzen 7 5800H, RTX 3070 8Gb, 2To SSD, 32Gb memory and 165hz screen for as low as 1,800€ (2,030 USD). It will be delivered tomorrow so I'll tell you how awesome it is !
No a single machine is better for that price point. Maybe the all amd system ASUS advantage g15 with Amd 5900hx and 6800m for the same price or less when in sale
@@hakanakman3226 Crazy right ? Similar machines at MSI cost 600€ more
Msi or ASUS org every other company..you can’t buy something without watching reviews from trusty reviewers today. Msi high end machines are pretty good though 😁
I love my -budget Alienware m15 R5- Dell G15, even if I DID have to buy the SSD mount for the second m.2 drive slot on Amazon. Didn't even have a mux switch at the time either :D
The dell surprised me, The only other laptop that can compete with the legion is Acer's 2021 Helios 300 since it has a 3060 maxp . Great video nonetheless!
The helios has so many problems i'd just stay away from the lineup in general
@@ishimarumasaki1998 as a helios owner myself, I can testify that it has loud fans and horrible speakers. Depending on your country it might have a good price/performance ratio though
@@andreabeccarisi1126 Yeah the only reason you'd be getting the helios is if it were the best price/performance out there. But I did that, and i regret it. Imagine just wanting to write a Word file or just watching a youtube video and then hearing the fans ramp up. I unlocked the bios and even used 3rd party software. There is 0 ways to control the fans because scummy acer disabled it.
Helios doesn't have 130W 3060. Its a 105W one.
I have been waiting for this one!! You're the best!!
The Legion always tends to be a lot more expensive in the UK, and even then most of the time its a Ryzen 5 or 8GB model for a higher price than the Dell
I dont mind it being a little less good compared to the Legion solely for the big cost change for pretty small differences
get the legion the thermals in dell suck
YES!!!!!! Thank you I was looking for that!
Bought legion 5 I can say go for it my friend has g 15 he said there are many real time issue and screen blacks out sometime he bought it 3 months ago
The Dell G15 is the best.. best value, best performance and best looking. 😊👍 Plus it last longer on battery while performing better on battery - very important things in a laptop in my opinion.
Yeah it does look good
@@techmad8204 I've owned it for just over 2 weeks now.. best laptop I've ever owned and I've previously had alienware and Asus ROG + TUF. I also disagree with Jarrod's opinon about the keyboard on the Dell as it's the best keyboard I've ever typed on.
I found the Legion 5 as the only affordable rtx laptop. Was in the price range with some 1650ti's. I feel like the Legion is more for the price
I personally found the G15 as one of the worst looking laptop . While legion is on the better looking side . Personal preference tho
@@slavic_slav1320 I got the Dell G15 straight from Dell with a sale on and it was the cheapest 5800H with 3060 max-P laptop in Australia by a few hundred
Bought the Legion 5, 17.3 inch display on a sale for 934 USD. I hope I had a great deal!
Specs: i7, RTX 3050ti, 16gb ram, SSD 512gb.
I wonder how much of the better battery life was due to the 120hz screen being way lower power then the 165hz screen.
I dont think that the hz of a screen actually affect battery life that much.
@@markfreier7194 it does
Was looking forward to getting the legion after watching your vids on it but a greater than 2 month wait time is a ridiculous turn off.
Hi! Can you do a comparison between HP Omen 15 with rtx 3060 and Lenovo Legion 5 with rtx 3060?
Love your explanation about how you test the laptop, what are the criteria, which result is better. 😍 No bias, fair enough!
Your videos are great. Picked up a Dell G15 6800H/3050 ti/16gb Memory/120Hz screen off of Best Buy for $899.99 I pretty much just play World of Warcraft/Final Fantasy XIV so it's enough for me and I'm sure 60+fps will be easy to get in both games without raytracing. Thanks for the video.
Nice buy. I have the 3060 version
I strongly suggest disabling turbo if you don’t play aaa or high quality games often.
It makes the laptop run like a dream.
If you ever need the extra power you can always just switch it back on.
is your laptop still in good condition? I want to buy a g15 laptop, but looking at some reviews on the internet it says there are some problems with the g15 laptop, what do you think?
Hey is your Dell G15 still working/in good condition? Because I previously owned the Dell G15 laptop and it broke literally two days later after buying.
I just purchased the Dell G15 w/ Intel i7 11800H, RTX 3060, 1TB SSD, 16GB RAM, and 165Ghz Display for only $999 at Microcenter in the USA.
nice video, 10/10 id also like the Legion 5! also can you do a Legion 5 vs Legion 5 pro?
Legion 5 for everyday to office and class blend in pretty well
Thanks for comparison.your channels in my opinion is the best place for laptops comparison or exploring laptops.
I've been planning to get a Lenovo Legion but still isn't sure and hoping some of the comparison videos would change my mind but it only makes me want Legion more.
Apart from... maybe one thing on the Dell (battery life), every single point went quite easily to the Lenovo... price difference would be the main question.
G15 with intel 11800h, rtx 3060 has a 130w tdp.
165hz screen as well 100% srgb.
Silent at idle or normal browsing.
Very quiet fans for gaming when on battery.
Prices for the Dell in India is almost same across all the sellers offline or online. Legion 5 is unavailable mostly (Ryzen 2021 version). The price is higher than the Dell but on offer gets lower. I am using a Legion since last 2 years and it is great except back then the camera was at bottom and the RAM frequency is just 2666 MHz. Dell has this habit of pushing temp higher for all line ups. I would like to try the G15 or G5SE but am happy with the Legion.
You have to review the Acer Triton 500 SE, and compare it with the big boys like Legion 7, M16, X17 and S17.
I also heard they're making a 16:10 inch mini led screen that will be over 1000 nits brightness.
I already know the legion 5 is better but since my budget was $1600 and legion laptops were around 2k, o bought the g15 rtx 3050 for $1300(on sale) and havent regretted it.
You can buy a cooling pad for the heating issue, buy an external monitor to get above 120hz and an external hdd for more space
same. thou i got the 3050 ti for 1100 cad. yours probably has more ram and better screen thou.
Just order my dell from best buy on sell for 699 hope I like it can’t wait
In my country, i bought legion 5 ryzen 7 5800H rtx 3060 for $1350.
Thank you for this comparison video. I was contemplating between these two, and I think I'll go with the Legion 5 in this case
legion 5 is better than dell g15 ?
no legion is more expensive for like 10 more fps
I bought a legion 5, thanks for helping me Jarrod's. At the beginning I was thinking to get an acer nitro 5, then I saw your videos and changed my mind. ;P
Glad I could help!
Jarrod: "Which one's better? The Lenovo Legion 5 or..."
Me: "Let me stop you right there. We both know the answer to that question."
G15
Legion 5 is much better IMO
@@fgboii4687 It's better but its an extra hundred dollars...
G15
@@chickenleg440 G15 is extra 300 on top of Legion 5 where i live (165Hz Legion vs 120Hz G15). Also dell is uglier, thermal throttles and has a worse screen
Legion 5 is good but definitely going for the Dell G15 with the 165hz option. My reason is simply for that battery life, though I know that they may be a difference with the 165hz option but I figure it's not that much.
120, 144 and 165Hz is all the same, really ...
Good Lucky with th Air fryer if RUclipsive in a cold place then its a fantástic deal for me it heats up too much... and legion 5 is really overpriced here...:(
Is it close though? Legion 5 is a proven design that works well, has no big flaws unlike the G15.
16:28 You don't have to restart Legion 5 to turn off iGPU. Because Legion 5 supports Advanced Optimus you may use Hybrid Mode and during launching the game Advanced Optimus should entirely turn off iGPU and enable G-Sync
Wait...advanced optimus is supported on the ryzen models?
KUDOS for the wintersun Tshirt, great band.
I have the same G15, but use a docking station 99% of the time with a gaming monitor, so not that worried about the screen and keyboard.
How do you like it I might do the same to play cod and halo comp
For me deal breaker for dell g15 was its inverted motherboard. You have to take everything apart to just apply thermal paste. But now i am glade i went with legion as it have many other benefits over dell.
I don't get why everyone is fussing over the heatsink being on the other side of this motherboard. It's not that hard to remove a few extra screws and cables to take out the motherboard. Besides that, you really don't have any real need to replace the existing thermal paste unless you've already had this laptop for at least 5 years.
Great video. Also looking forward for hp victus 16 review and comparison.
Great review again !! Cheers Jarrod .. BUT could you or have you explained either in a video or on your website explain this Memory x 16 and x 8 differences ... Cheers
A Légió 5 csuklása, sarka, körülbelül egy évig tart, és eltörik, repedezik, nem ér 5 lábat, a fűtés is szemét, és az ÍDell g15 egy all-in-one tartály, fűtés, anyag stb.
Thanks for this comparison of probably the two best bang-for-the buck 3060-equipped gaming laptops, Jarrod. I actually had a Legion 5 and used it for a few days but returned it because I wanted more than 6GB of video memory, but now that I've gone down the rabbit hole of no Legion 5 Pro availability, and virtually every other 3070-equipped gaming laptop either being permanently sold out (4+ months to ship!), not having a MUX switch, or being about $1,000 Canadian more expensive than either the G15 or the Legion 5. I may just simply cave and buy the Legion 5 again and keep it this time, unless I hear that there will be more laptops in this approximate price range that have MUX switches in the near future. EDIT: I've just ordered a Dell G15 5800h+3060 w/165Hz display panel. ETA is supposed to be a couple of days, as I got it super cheap as a refurbished model. I'll provide my thoughts on how it compares to the Legion 5 here when I get it. Being able to control the fan speed is important to me, as the Legion 5 kept speeding up and slowing down every time the CPU went to 80 degrees or below during gaming, which was rather irritating. The Legion 5 was also blowing a lot of hot air on my right hand, so we'll see how the G15 does with that, too.
OK, I've had the Dell G15 5800h+3060, 165Hz screen version for couple of days now. My observations compared to the Legion 5 5800h+3060, 165Hz are as follows. (Bear in mind both laptops came with the slower x16 memory): The Dell does run hotter than the Legion in general. During gaming with Optimus disabled and no v-sync in Fallout 76, the Dell's CPU will get up over 90 degrees. However, the Dell is quieter, and even when it has its fans fully spun up (using the 'G' key) it's not annoying; the pitch is much easier on the ears than the Legion's. Once the 'G' key is used, the CPU temps drop down into the low to mid 80s. Also, no hot air blowing on your right hand with the Dell, unlike the Legion. While gaming, the Legion's fans go from being acceptable to really quite irritating once the CPU gets over 80 degrees, which is every few seconds while gaming, and there's literally no control for the fans on the Legion. One more thing: I didn't test this on the Legion, but with the Dell, you will NOT be able to close the lid all the way while gaming on an external monitor and keyboard--the air intakes above the keyboard are absolutely essential to keeping the machine cool enough. My Dell actually crashed because of the heat build-up with the screen completely closed while gaming. The keyboard on the Legion does look and feel slightly better when typing, but for gaming, the Legion's keyboard feels mushier than the Dell's. I was also surprised by how cheap the Legion's keyboard actually felt while typing on it compared to previous generations of Lenovo laptop I've used. The Dell feels surprisingly faster than the Legion in my current favourite game, Fallout 76, with Optimus disabled on both. To give a sense of the latency for gaming on the Dell, the frametime, as measured using MSI Afterburner, averages a near constant ~18ms with Optimus enabled in this game, while the frame time drops to an excellent 9-14ms (with some brief spikes higher) with Optimus disabled. The screens on both are virtually identical to my eyes, with excellent colour reproduction. Overall, especially since I got the Dell on special as a refurb for the incredible price of $1249 Canadian, and the Lenovo was $1449 Canadian on sale, but is now at least $1679+ Canadian new, I am probably going to keep the Dell. It feels like a desktop gaming experience with Optimus disabled, and is definitely the way to go for the best bang-for-the buck gaming experience with a 3060 I've found so far.
You guys dont buy directly from the Lenovo website? Dell website? Why?
A Dell cheaper than a Lenovo? I'll believe that when I see it. 😉
But seriously, you should add a section on what service plan is available and the price. On-site service the next day, is a LOT better than "send it back to us and you may get it back in six weeks".
Watching this on my new Legion 5 upgraded ram and intel wifi6 from realtek....... just bought it yesterday after watching your videos..... almost got the dell for 200 less..... but your 3 videos on the L5 was the leading factor........ I had many choices & enough to get a legion 7 or Alienware but I dont game everyday.... my HP spectre is my everyday...... PS I dislike the touchpad and screen......like alot
PS I got it for 950 ..... open box best buy ex display unit...... probably redo battery soon for that reason aswell..... but I got a great deal... 309$ off msrp
The choice is easy. It is Legion 5. Just a more sleek over all package. The Dell looks childish to me.
Your heat test is wrong. Legion 5 heating is more centered under the keyboard where the smaller components are located. That's a significant issue for laptops as over time the keys can lose their responsiveness. The heating dispersion is better on the G15. That's a pretty big deal on any laptops.
I still wish on the L5 they gave you the same shortcut the L5P has to change between 165 to 65hz. But I do still like the 5 over the 15
The thing with dell is the support is a HELL of a lot better. I would always go for dell. That's just me!!!
I was looking for this exact review.
hi Jarrod, i've watched your comparisons and this is quality stuff. In my country for 1480USD you can get either G15 R7 5800h, Legion 5 with r5 5600H or Zephyrus G14 5800HS all of them with RTX3060 (120,130 and 80TGP). Aiming for longetivity (I expect it should last for at least 5 years) and of course performance to play occasionaly after work warzone and some RTS games or half life alyx, which one should be the best pick? are all of them VR ready?
Those prices are really high, I bought a Legion 5 with r7 5800h rtx 3050ti, 16gb ram 512 gb SSD for only 999 just 2 months ago, I know the 3060 is way faster but not $700 faster
Lool. I got a legion 7 5800h with a 3080 + 16gb ram and 1tb ssd for 1.6k. :)
The fuck ? 700$ ?
In the near future 4GB gpu will be crap
What a review! Thank you so much!
Glad you enjoyed it!
this dude has all the videos I want to see, it's fucken ridiculous
Jarrod do you intend to do a full review of either the Dell G16 2022 or 2023 models? Would love to see your thoughts on how dell have modified and improved the product since the earlier G15 days and if G16 is something worth investing in as a gamer
Definitely interested. Just not sure when I'll be able to get a hold of them.
@@JarrodsTech Thanks Jarrod, hoping you can get a hold of either models (or both) soon as there aren't really many full reviews out there of the G16 2022 or 2023 on RUclips so hoping you can beat the other main stream tech content creators to the punch. Fingers crossed
Great review. Really helped me settle on one between the two. 👍
Great to hear!
I have found that for a rtx 3070 laptop, MSI GP Leopard is just the best quality/performance price ratio.
-Dell G15 5515 Ryzen edition with 165hz Ryzen 7 5800h/ Ram 16GB / SSD 1TB 1100$.
-Lenovo legion 5 pro with 2k 165hz Ryzen 7 5800h / Ram 16GB / SSD 512GB 1279$.
This 2 has the same GPU rtx 3060 Which one should I choose?
I picked the Dell G15 for better battery