Is Pitzmann The New Korean Grand Seiko?
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
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Apologies for th eobvious joke. This company has a very exciting future ahead of it if they keep making watches this good, but add a bit of sparkle. I mean, don't get me wrong, this is a great watch, but perhaps lacks the vital spark that makes us fall head over heels in love with our timepieces. Cheers, Jody
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Korean Christopher Ward, well said Jody, couldn't have said it better myself
Oh by the way, you will be receiving a letter from my Lawyer for using footage from my videos without my permission😂😘
Love your work Jody as always, be well mate 🥃
Take him to the cleaners
Your lawyer doesn't even like you Peter you're wasting your time with your own lawyer LOL
Wow a Korean brand that looks really nice. Great review Jody and nice to see the shout out to Peter as his videos are good value!
I recently picked up a Pitzmann II, the overall quality and finishing punches well above it's weight, very impressed for their 2nd effort, a perfect everyday wear
This watch looks fantastic. I'll have to disagree with the lack of character assessment. Yes, the dials are limited, but I think that is in keeping with more of a minimalist style. And the case! I don't think I've ever seen a case quite like this, and it clearly takes inspiration from traditional Korean architecture. Great review as always!
I like its understated look. Glad to see that the Sw300 is being used. Great movement
I’ll be interested in seeing how Pitzmann performs
I think this is a beautiful watch that ticks every box for me. I do wish there was something more "Korean" about it. Even "Seoul" written in Korean would be special.
Koreans like to use foreign sounding names to sound more sophisticated. A Korean name would sound cooler. If they used the name Hanyang, which is the historical name for Seoul, that sounds like a cool name.
I have blue one. I am loving it! Design. Wearability. Spec. Love all about it!❤
Looks great but the price tag is a bit high for me! I’ll stick with my orient star for now which can be sporty or dressy but this is a great looking watch!
Great to see the grey version of the Pitzmann II featured in another review. It makes it easier to pick a colour. It seemed likely, and you essentially confirm, that the grey is the more toned down and conservative colour, making one look harder for that 'soul'. I fully appreciate that you don't just dish up a brand's commercial narrative. Nonetheless, as others have mentioned, it may matter a bit more here. Ultimately, the great majority of the excellently finished details you have pointed out in your video have been deliberately designed like that as references to finishes, styles, and details in traditional Korean architecture. I think the 'soul' therefore flows forth from incorporating all of this (for those who care) with a convincing drive for quality and without creating a cultural pastiche or gimmicky design. This stays a highly functional straightforward sports watch with dressy flourishes (dressy in the sense of GS and dressier than most AT's). It successfully minimises the number of elements to then go on and emphasise these elements for each to become a substantial component of the watch. They then stayed away from further embellishment because, well, it doesn't need it. Of course, who knows which kind of refinements or new ideas they might come up with next.
Beautiful watch. My wife was adopted out of Korea so I would wear it to celebrate her heritage.
I’ve had my eye on the seiko laurel alpinist for a long time but haven’t pulled the trigger because I’ve not been completely satisfied with the movement. I reckon this pittzmann knocks the alpinist into the ropes with a fast one, two. I’m ordering it now.
Did you get it? How do you like it?
FYI there's a tremendous amount of hate on the brand by Koreans. They used to run a youtube channel as if they were just a watch reviewer and pretty much degraded all the watches except for the most high end ones going as far as just taking out the second hand of a Tissot and folding it in half. Then they announced the brand claiming they are doing it cuz most brands out there are crap where in reality, they've been preparing it the whole time. Which can be understandable but their watch did not live upto what they were claiming them to be massively overpricing the product. The bigger issue was them reselling watches they bought for a review which they took apart and reassembled as if the product was mint condition. So in Korean watch community, this brand is pretty much considered as scammers. Anyways, I understand that they now produce valid watches but what they did in the past still annoys me.
Nice to know.
I like it but it doesn't blow me away. I agree with the comparison with Christopher Ward which isn't a bad thing as they make lovely watches too. Also reminded me of the Bulova Precisionist in some ways. I particularly enjoyed the colour contrasts when you showed it on the leather strap.
Looks like my Bulova Precisionist. Not original at all. 👎🏻👎🏻
It's well above CW in finishing - but I can see it design wise
I'm glad someone mentioned the precisionist. Totally different thing obviously but I was definitely getting deja-vu.
Hey Jody, just an FYI on the Aliexpress sale, Cooper watch and Baltany from your links, both raised their prices during the launch, after watches were added to cart to lock in the price. Real shame they had to do such a bait and switch move. Cooper raised it on launch day from $56 to $107 CAD. I had to drop it unfortunately.
Ouch! Shame. Just as well I bought mine a few days prior!
Cheeky baskets
Yes, I saw it as low as $47 CAD before they jacked up the price.
I find that I have a hard time reaching the same end prices that they advertize almost every time I buy from Aliexpress - however the deviation mostly has been minor, not as blatant as what is described here !! That could put me off the brands entirely .............. thank God I already bought my Baltany Military Chrono last year ! (love that watch !)
@@peterbeck-rasmussen8514 Stupid too, those Coopers are quite cool
Jody, you have just reminded of a watch I had and lost quite a few years ago. I had a Raymond Weil Beatles commemoration watch, of which they produced many variations. One of them had exactly this dial, obviously to emulate the old phonograph disc and above the 3 marker a silhouette of the 4 lads with a Beatles engraving on the caseback. Quite tastefully done. Anyway put the same thing on the dial of this one and from memory it looks exactly the same. This is a nice watch that brought back a nice memory but as it doesn't Please Please Me, I think.... I'll Let it Be. 😉
I came here to say the same thing, I'm not sure mine was a Beatles commemoration but has that exact same face and hands
As the proud owner of a CW, this watch has my attention!
The CW quote was spot on. I could see the Sealander aspects throughout the video. Nice watch 👍
The dull colors remind me of my four years living in South Korea. Their long, dreary winters are gray, muted blue, and flat green.
Pretty thing! Design language reminds me of Second Hour if you remember them, but I suppose both micros were probably drawing from Grand Seiko. Great movement for the price too, but sadly the dimensions of this guy just make it look a little short and squat. I bet if they narrowed the diameter down to 38 or even just 39, but kept the lugs the same length, it would look a lot more graceful on wrist.
Looks nice. I still don't for the life of me understand why, often, once you start paying more for a watch, the level of micro adjusts seem to diminish, or disappear altogether.
It looks exactly like Citizen Promaster Tough, but perfect sized. Beautiful!
Very interesting, especially in the price range. Nice to see the sw300 movement. Would love to see more.
Thanks for the review. Nice looking GADA watch. Pretty good value for the money. I have resisted getting an automatic as I don't want a bunch of winders in the house - I stick with battery powered and light powered watches.
I’m going to go against the grain slightly here but I like it, although I am curious if other colours might be added to the range. I’d probably go for the blue if I was paying for one
Currently they have 3 color dial options right now
It reminds me of the Bulova 96b158 Precisionist
Great review and analogy Jody, "The Korean Christopher Ward" is spot on!, just not quite as desirable as CW but really nice.
Looking over their web site and looking at all their watches, the simplicity is what they are going for. Things like enamel faces, traditionally blued hands, decent Swiss movements without non essential complications, this is nice. Especially at a time when everyone else is adding complications with limited value add and jacking up the prices for it.
I agree about the character being somewhat lacking. Why would you name a Korean brand Pitzmann? Grand Seiko makes a big deal about where they're from, and I think the watches benefit from it!
That was my first thought, more important than the watch ! Brings to mind bare fisted thugs in underground fights. Totally opposite to to what they should be promoting.
Just checked out their site both the 1 and 2 are beautiful pieces and on the 2 really like the sw300 movement. For about 1k it seems like a great watch.
Beautiful watch! Two thumbs up. Plenty of character when compared to Tissot Gentleman, PRX or any of the other department store wonders that the watch world get hard over. Bravo. I'm in.
I have 3 Christopher Ward watches and they are simply impeccable! This Pitzmann is super impressive. If it was 38mm I would have bought it already. Perhaps version 3 might have smaller versions and a variety of colours?
funny, if it were 42mm I'd be all over it!
It looks great. I would love to see this one side by side with a Christopher Ward.
Smashing brand, and well placed to go up against entry level Swiss, my budget isn't quite there but would have this brand on my radar.
Love these new makers brought to light.
I have to agree with you, Jody. The quality is there, but the level of detail on the dial isn't quite up to Grand Seiko levels. Of course, you aren't paying as much as you would for a Grand Seiko, but I think they have to put a little more thought into the dial before the comparison is apt.
Definitely looks good I like the design. But It does feel little empty for the price!
That’s a no-brainer for me. Want one!
Thanks for bringing this one to our attention, Jody. I like it!
The lug finishing on this almost gives the case a Ming vibe - looks great 👍
My kind of watch. Like the detail on the dial, the proportions and the sub-$1000 price.
Funny you mentioned C Ward. First thing I thought when you compared it to Grand Seiko was a more fitting comparison would be a C Ward Sealander another Gada watch with 150m of water resistance.
You’re right. Nice specs for the watch. The dial is what makes the watch boring. Great video as always.
In Asia high quality means restraint in styling. That is why it looks like it could use a bit more character.
Hi Jody,
Another great video with good shots of the watch. Very attractive watch that looks like it is punching above its weight.
Keep up the great work.
Many thanks, from a wet and windy Hampshire in England.
Beautiful watch love the concave bezel plus the finishing is extraordinary if I had $1,000 to waste I would buy it
A very smart looking watch. Will keep my eye on these
I've been looking at this one for a while. But when I saw it on your Instagram, I held off to see this review. Great video as usual!
Lovely. But make an HAQ version and I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
The finishing and specs on this looks fantastic for the price, but it does lack a bit of personality. I’m a fan of the design language, it’s giving me Ming vibes. Excited to see where Pitzmann goes from here.
Are these the guys that make Pitzmans mustard too? Love that stuff
At first glance I was definitely reminded of a JLC Polaris dial. Be very nice in blue perhaps?
This is a very nice watch! Not cheap, but the finishing looks great
GS coined the nature-themed dial aesthetic. Pitzmann should certainly take that step, or even one beyond
Really dig this watch. The challenge that I have is where does it fit in the collection? So curious about the movement and build though…
What a beautiful watch, I would certainly own one of these
Don't know if you could really put it up against Christopher Ward, this watch looks to be the next level, I own a C. Ward and would swap any day
This looks a *lot* like my 36mm Omega Seamaster 120, with the concentric rings and applied indices. It's a great look.
Ahhh, I know what you mean! Nice watch BTW.
I really like it but own a Christopher Ward Sealander, and like you said it’s a close call. The CW is a great design but the power reserve lets it down a bit. Just wish it had this movement in it. This style of watch is also a personal favourite now and the grey is a good choice because it goes with everything, even if it is a bit boring!
I've ordered the sealander with the sh21, 120hrs power reserve
Have to admit Jody, did not expect much from this one. But quite happy to see I was wrong, this brand shows some real promise 😀
Please consider using this shade of grey (or a bit lighter) for the Erebus HAQ. Dark or metallic grey makes it difficult to see silver hands/indices.
Nothing like a confluence of great design and great specs. Very pleasantly surprised at that display caseback on a sub 11mm watch.
I didn't expect to like the dial and polish so much
Good morning! Another beautiful piece
This is a real nice looking watch and perfect for someone with a small wrist. The dial choices are a bit limited as they only offer the watch in grey, blue, and green. It seems like they were trying to keep the price down so they cut a few corners.
Fitzman creates indeed beautiful watches (quality, finishes, bracelet, etc) but it can't be compared to GS. GS creates their own movements amd are leaders in horology (i e. Spring Drive).
Accuracy of +1 second per day is outstanding, you got a good one. What do their specifications say?
Nice watch , it remind's me of my Bulova Precisionist 262 Hz dress watch , yes mine is in grey as well .
Hi Jody!
That’s a wonderful and restrained watch design! Maybe not the right watch for a summer party, wearing a Hawaii shirt. But definitely perfect for a 9 to 5 office job where you don’t want to flash with your watch. I like it a lot!
Best regards,
Claus
Woah!! What happened on that pocket shot?! You normally have the best pressed T-shirts I've ever seen!
great review and from the website I think the green dial looks lovely. The hands seem a little wide which takes away from its elegance and its a tad large for that style of watch imho. Definitely a watch I’d love to seen in the flesh so to speak….
Thanks for sharing this. I really really want one.
True Grand Korean Watch ! ❤
Smashing good looking watch. I feel like the guy who gets a great product from obscure or not popular companies just to be different. 1000 on a special watch that no one else would have yo
I like it . But as you say. A couple of bright coloured dials would be cool.. 😊
The hands and dial are fabulous! And a good size crown. A little pricey to start off with but a fab universal daily package. Thanks.
Reminds me Traska for some reason. A very simple but elegant TraskA. It's very nice.... Maybe missing a little something exciting.
I agree that it's a bit lacking in charisma, I guess they wish to compete as watchmakers, and not as watchmakers-from-Korea, but that's almost kind of a shame. If you compare this Pitzmann, and it's ineffably Germanic name, to an Atelier Wen you really feel that loss in the character department to that Chinese(ish) brand. If I'm buying something from Seoul, I want it to feel like I got on a plane and went there to get it every time I look at my wrist, as you would with a GS Shunbun or Snowflake and it's close ties to Japanese culture and landscape.
It's nice Jody, but I agree with you that the "muted" colourways leave it just a little flat. I'd also like to see a nice red / maroon colourway in addition to your suggestions.
Yes, a red dial would lift it up.
I like the quality and attention to detail but like almost all watches it has similarities to others. They clearly want you to consider it a less expensive Swiss sporty dresser but I see the Casio Oceanus T200 which has a beautiful glass, amazing movement and is about half the price.
Your videos make me so happy
Ha! 😄 Thanks for watching!
I have one of the First Pitzmann's - it's amazing and looks beautiful.
The Two is... fine? It's wonderfully made on a technical level but the design doesn't grab me like the First did.
I'm hoping for more though, if they can really find their niche and get the design right, they will be a force. If you like semi-dress watches, then the First might be for you.
The strap it comes with isn't great though - I swapped it out for a blue ostrich from Delugs
I should add that the customer service so far has been exemplary
I'm a swiss watch snob, started out on mechanical Timex then graduated to mechanical Sekonda then Seiko and when I could afford it started with Swiss watches amazed to find even the cheapest are well built and really good at telling the time. The Pitzmann seems like a well built watch shame there is no date, which could be at 6 without affecting the symmetry, could be a nice daily otherwise. Nice to see something a bit out of the ordinary.
I just ordered an interesting Bronze San Martin automatic 37mm Field/Pilots watch for 160 over here in Canada! We shall see how it is, but it looks petty solid!
Is it a Bulova 96B158 Precisionist younger brother?
Really beautiful! If anybody else see the SNK resemblance 🧐
To compete with Seiko, let alone Grand Seiko, it needs a more interesting high quality dial.
To me it looks like you see at a business meeting in Korea. It is grey bla. Good on a cloudy day
reading financial records. Maybe it looks good from a person from Scotland who gets to many overcast days.
Just off the title and down to experience of the videos, I'm betting the answer is nope. But I can't wait to settle down and watch 😁
I would use it as an Explorer alternative. I want an exploring or do it all watch
This looks like a perfect size for me! I gotta have the date on my time piece 🤷🏻♂️
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I'd say it's the right set of colours for someone moving up the business ranks throughout Asia. Serious and proud.
For some reason I like it on the leather strap a lot more here. Looks good in that configuration. For some reason, it looks very bland on the bracelet.
However, for the price....I would just pick up another Tissot PRX or perhaps pay a touch more for a Gentleman...both I think look nicer.
Beautiful watch. Thanks for sharing.
Great review as always, Jody. Looks smaller than a 40mm, and whilst you say it is beautifully finished, it looks soooooooo dull. Also, no date is a deal breaker for me.
The green dial looks great. Would rock cream accents.
Hey ! No Ali Express sales this time? Also, I wanted to ask if It's possible to make a video about how Ali Express is functioning? Sometimes I'm lost with coupons and all this sellers...
Thanks for the travaux !
Surprisingly good looking watch from a mustard company.
Pitzman is a relatively rare sir name in Korea.
Should have named it Kim
I totally agree Jodie, very well made indeed but it's a bit well drilling (boring) - lack of pop or character. The Box is more exciting than the watch
The blue one does look a bit better but I agree with your assessment.
Looks great, nice video and review Jody thanks